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goat? i love goats but only she could do it. thank you so much for watching us. i hope you have a wonderful night. we'll be here tomorrow night. set your dvr to watch us anytime. ac 360 begins right now. good evening, thank you for joining us. we begin tonight with a stunning new report on the use of torture. not by some middle east dictator or a rogue group of terrorists but the united states government. published today, to prevent its publication, it's a scathing review of cia interrogation techniques used after 9/11. senate intelligence committee say the torture far more extensive than known and more brutal than officials said and they didn't work. also, how high level officials from the cia misled the white house, members of congress and the american people time after time after what was really going on. keeping detainees for days and mobilized, agonizing stress
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positions and water boarding, threatening to sexually abuse family members, rectal tubes, list goes on and on and this is just from the summary of the report. the details are certainly hard to listen to, but they're important to know about and we'll go into more detail in a moment. breaking news tonight related to this. a warning about what repercussions could be coming from terror groups and violent extremists in the united states. justice correspondent pamela brown on the latest with that. there's a terror warning. what do you know about it? >> the fbi sent out a bulletin warning law enforcement agencies across the country that terrorists that may try to exploit the torture memo findings as propaganda and using it as a tool. it could spark online reaction and influence home grown violence extremists. the big concern as it picks up steam on social media, it could inflame extremists. i want to emphasize the bulletin, it's unlikely to see violence in the near term and
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law enforcement said there's no new intelligence indicating threats related to this memo, anderson. >> the fbi director you asked about this afternoon, what did he say? >> he had a round table session with reporters and this was one of the first questions out of the gate to him. earlier this afternoon, he said he hadn't read the memo yet but said, this doesn't relate to the fbi therefore decided to stay tight lipped about it. but the concern in the fbi is whether this memo generates activities overseas or home grown violent extremists, basically echoing the warning. >> pamela brown, thank you very much. the senate intelligence committee spent five years looking at more than 6 million pages of cia documents and released 525 pages of the summary today. within those pages, the conclusion that cia detainees were tortured and within that conclusion, the incredibly grizzly details. barbara starr reports. >> reporter: the brutality is shocking. the report reveals at least five detainees were subjected to what
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it calls rectal feeding. interrogation procedures that went on for months. at least one detainee died from hypothermia. >> stripped naked, diaper, physically struck and various painful stress positions for long periods of time. they were deprived of sleep for days, in one case, 180 hours. >> reporter: one had his lunch pureed and poured into his rectum. he attempted to cut his wrist, his wrist and foot. much kept from george w. bush's own secretary of state. >> there are cia records stating that colin powell wasn't told about the program at first because there were concerns that, and i quote, powell would blow his stack if he were briefed. >> reporter: a former top cia official says some details were held close, but that the agency
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did not engage in torture. >> absolutely not. absolutely not. i mean, people of conscience can disagree on this, but the people who are on the front lines who are actually engaged in trying to defend america against terrorists, they have to rely on the legal advice that they are given. >> reporter: some of the worst abuse occurred at a secret location called cobalt where detainees were walked around naked or shackled with their hands above their heads for extend extend extended periods of time. slapping, punching them and an admission in cia document that water boarding did cause physical harm. abusebata repeatedly water boarded became completely unresponsive with bubbles rising through his open full mouth. internal cia records called kalas hirks k mohammed's
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boarding, a series of drownings. torture that wasn't even effective, according to the report. >> it produced little useful intelligence to help us track down the perpetrators of 9/11 or prevent new attacks and atrocities. >> reporter: the cia issued a lengthy and detailed statement saying the program was legal and gained the country useful intelligence but acknowledging mistakes were made. barbara starr, cnn, the pentagon. >> a spokesman for former president george w. bush said his only statement about the report is what he told cnn's candy crowley this past sunday. here's what he said. >> we're fortunate to have men and women serving on our behalf at the cia. these are patriots and whatever the report said, if it diminishes their contributions to our country, it is way off base. and i knew the directors, i knew the deputy directors. i knew a lot of the operators.
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they are good people, really good people and we're lucky as a nation to have them. >> if you read the report though, he wasn't even informered about these methods until 2006 and then expressed reservations about them. dick cheney dismissed the report before it came out. he was a proponent of what he called enhanced interrogation techniques after the 9/11 attacks. he told the new york times he thinks they were absolutely and totally justified. told the times about the senate report, quote, i hear they portray this as a rogue operation and the agency out of bounds and lied about it. i think that's all a bunch of hooey. peter and jeffrey toobin. that's not how i read the report. this was a bunch of rogue people. this is actually not a bunch a couple of bad apples at the bottom. this is the top. time after time, you have cia
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officers who are involved in these interrogations saying the suspect has no more information. this isn't effective. we should stop and voice concerns and told by higher ups, keep doing it. we think this person has more information. >> i don't think it's hyped to say there has never been a day like this in american history. we didn't treat nazis like this or vietcong like this. this is something without precedent in american history and it came from the top. that's one thing somewhat ambiguous. it came from the top of the cia. what is peculiar about the report is that the role of the white house is somewhat mysterious, but the idea that somehow cia agents on the ground decided to do this on their own is clearly wrong. this was a cia wide operation completely acknowledged and supported. >> colonel davis, you're not aware of one life saved or plot
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averted because of this program. when you read this thing every time and the cia put forward all these cases and a lot of politicians put forward all these cases. the white house, the bush white house and others saying, oh, well it was the hunt for osama bin laden. everybody saw that movie where torture resulted in information that led to bin laden. the capture of jose paideia, the second alleged shoe bomber and multiple instances, people have pointed to that enhanced ter gas station of what's really torture led to these things. the report said each time, they had the information before this person was even tortured. >> you're exactly right. what you cited or what held up is the best examples of what torture did for us. even if you accept those as true which i think is a real stretch particularly in the case of kalis sheikh mohammed that led to bin laden, look at the minuses we incured, the damage
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we've done and cost we've incured will take decades to undo the harm. i think far outweighs any potential good anyone can cite. >> also, just the sheer, the number of lies told by leaders of the cia, again, according to this report, peterburgen, michael hey lied to congress about, you know, the humane treatment people were receiving. you had people in the white house talking about humane treatment. the biggest bone of contention between this report and the cia's account is if these techniques were defined by osama bin laden. the report said they weren't. the cia says they were. you say what? >> the burden of proof is on the other side. it's heavily annotated. this is the most detailed
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account of the intelligence breaks that led to the courier that led to bin laden. i had written a book on the subject and investigated this a great length and talked to many of the people involved. this report is very, very useful. and it makes a convincing case, anderson, information about the courier came from people in the custody of other governments or came from intelligence that was already in the system from signal's intelligence and human intelligence. i think the burden of proof is on the other side. we were claiming oersive interrogation led to bin laden. i think this report on this issue is very convincing. >> it is interesting though, peter, because a lot of conservatives that push back besides saying shouldn't release this, they were were scary times. one of the arguments they made is that there were a lot of politicians on the left who had the time are saying or indicating that they kind of knew this stuff was going on and basically just wanted the cia to
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do whatever it took to keep america safe. and now those same politicians coming forward saying they're outraged by this. >> i mean, yes, there's a great deal of politicization but we're a long way from 9/11 now and able to look at this more nationally. i think there's a huge body of scientific evidence and other forms of evidence showing that non-coercive interrogation produce good results. i give a concrete example. randy usef who blew up the trade center in 1993 and killed six people and attempted to bring down the towers. he gave a completely fulsome confession. he was captured on the way home by the name of brad garrett. that's not untypical. and, you know, any fbi. one thing is interesting to me, assuming the people involved in these decisions were not fbi agents or federal prosecutors and essentially watched too many movies where the baddy gives up
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everything because they're abused. that's not how real interrogations proceed. >> everybody in this is carefully vetted. they're psychologists with no experience in interrogation designing these things and contractors who had shady backgrounds and records, some who created companies that were making millions of dollars off this. >> by the way, the company that made $81 million. $81 million. >> that's absolutely true. colonel, when you see just the sheer number of lies associated with this that the american people were told, i mean, time and again that this was a humane program, were you -- what else surprised you about this report today? >> i don't think there was really anything in it that surprised me. i think for the public, just the
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contracting out. these weren't agents. these were government contractors. the case of the two psychologists, richly rewarded for reverse engineering the siri program. we talked about this report in the u.s. if i was advising the people identified in the report, my advice would be vacation domestically because here at home, the president can choose the look forward not back approach but these crimes had universal jurisdiction. they're war crimes and anywhere outside of the u.s. is not obliged to follow our lead. >> it is shocking, jeff, quickly, if you read this and envision nazis doing this or kamara rouge doing this, it's not that far removed from what they were doing. recollectly feeding somebody beyond medical necessity, water boarding. >> it does seem like something in movies or the government ever
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sanctioned. >> is that true? some of these guys can be arrested later? >> almost certainly not in the government. the idea of universal jurisdiction, there was one celebrated case where the dictator of whichchile was arre in london but never replicated since then. i think it's unlikely but at least theoretically possible. >> more on the cnn web site. colonel morris davis, a quick reminder, set your dvr. watch 360 whenever you want. up next, a result of a yearlong investigation into armed security guards. widely different rules state by state, let security guards carry with deadly consequences. more breaking news, protests going on over the death of eric garner at the hands of police. a live picture from new york's grand central station. details ahead.
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investigation hired to keep killing. banks, malls, public facilities. no wub keeps track of how many have guns but it's in recent years. the center for investigative reporting finds a troubling pattern, uneven training in standards for background checks leading in cases to deadly consequences. we talk about armed guards with mental issues. others prohibited from having a weapon but manage to beat the system for hired guns. senior investigative correspondent drew griffin has the story. >> reporter: keon bird was gunned down in a miami strip club in june of 2012. he was unarmed sitting in a
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pickup truck when he was shot and killed by an armed security guard. this is that guard brought into court now charged with murder and facing a father who can't understand why his son has been taken away from him. >> you murder my son, man, for nothing. he was trying to get away from you. try to get away from you, man. you kept doing it while his back was under. you kept shooting him, man. you kept shooting him in the back. his back was tied to you, man. >> reporter: lucas shane kendall has a history of alcohol abuse. a dui conviction, kicked out of the navy. after the shooting, the jail psychiatrist diagnosed him with antisocial personality disorder and a recent diagnosis by court-ordered psychiatrists of unspecified schizophrenia spectrum and other psychotic
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disorder. on the day donald's son shot and killed, fully lienlsed by the state of florida to hold a badge and a gun. >> when you've got a little young security guard, they get any kind of opportunity to use their weapon. it's death. it's death. >> reporter: details of the shooting, as chilling as the moment donald bird met his son's killer in court. kendall arrived on duty early seen here in this surveillance video on that june 9th. his friend michael smathers already sitting in a pickup truck in the parking lot. kendall told police he thought they were rolling marijuana. he approached the truck and claims bird and smathers were looking menacing. one of the men threatened him, he says, and both car doors opened. kendall claims he felt his life was in danger and believed one of the men had a weapon. he fires at least 12 shots
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killing burg 8 times including four shots in the back as burg crawled under the truck. the shooting left bird dead and michael smathers paralyzed. police say no gun, no weapon was found in that truck. kendall calmly called 9-1-1. >> how you doing? >> there's a shooting. >> was anyone shot? >> yeah, two people are shot. >> where's the gunman now? >> i am the gunman, i'm the security officer here. >> reporter: security guards, even though many look like police officers, by and large, don't have arrest powers and don't report to the public. an investigation by cnn and the center for investigative reporting finds the armed security guard industry is kind of like a wild west when it comes to oversight. you could become an armed guard in 15 states with no firearms training. nine states don't bother to run
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fbi criminal background check. 27 states don't even check to see if someone is banned by federal law from carrying a gun. unlike police officers, the requirements to become a licensed armed guard across the u.s. can be so lax, in kentucky, you can become an armed guard simply by arming yourself and calling yourself one. >> there's no training requirement. there's no licensing requirement. a security company simply needs a business license. just like the florist down the street has. but instead of selling flowers, they're selling yard service. >> reporter: security industry experts run a security guard training school. they blame security firms more interested in making money than paying for proper training. >> they need warm bodies to put on the street to make money by the hour. they don't want to have to go through all of the training
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procedures to wait to get that body out there. >> reporter: only four states require security guards to pass a psychological evaluation. florida is not one of them. k keewon bird's believes it went to a man who was crazy. >> he feels justified in saying that he was defending himself. >> he's sick. >> reporter: kendall could have been disqualified from becoming an armed guard for getting discharged from the navy after several alcohol-related offenses but he didn't disclose that on his application and the state issued him a license. so who did hire lucas kendall? this man. bell grave arellano, the owner of the new defunct security company that hired him. >> drew griffin with cnn. how are you doing? i'd like to talk. why did you hire lucas?
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did you do any screening of him? >> it's nice to meet you though. have a great day. >> reporter: the kewon bird killing isn't the only case of arellano's armed guards. his former business in connection with another fatal shooting by one of its security guards. two other lawsuits alleging his guards were negligent have been settled. lucas kendall had all the required training and background checks when he was hired, but in florida, that's not much. security guards are required to attend one week of training and three and a half more days to carry a gun. kendall told police it was self-defense and told the court he didn't want a lawyer. >> how is it that you expect to represent yourself? >> i refuse to participate in this charade. >> i would advise you to do things the easy way. you want a trial. >> i don't want a trial.
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>> reporter: kendall has been ruled incompetent. claimed had no mental issues prior to the shooting. >> my son is the victim. he's been attacked in jail several times, beaten, ribs broken, his head has stitches on his face. they had to put him in isolation for longer than 15 months. isolation. nobody stays normal in isolation in that amount of time. >> reporter: it has been two and a half years since arlene bird's son was killed. the family is still waiting for a trial. >> my son was crawling underneath the truck trying to get away and he stood there and continued to shoot. but still he fell for his life. how? how? >> it's an incredible story. drew griffin joins me now.
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it seems like this could happen again. >> you know, there are a million armed and unarmed guards in this country. >> a million. >> a million. that is nearly double the amount of police officers we have, yet no national standards, no national requirement for an fbi background check. in many of these states, the licensing agency when there is an armed guard shooting, they don't bother to investigate it. lucas kendall could get somebody like lucas kendall a license today. absolutely. >> there is a report tomorrow night. >> we look at a state where the oversight is so poor that they had a guy who is actually barred from possessing a gun, granted a license at the same time with disas trous consequences. >> if you have a comment, go to cnn.com/investigations. just ahead, breaking news. the miserable weather in new york hasn't kept protesters from taking their message to grand
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these are live pictures from grand central terminal in new york. protesters continuing their call tonight for an end to police violence. it's the seventh straight day of demonstrations in the wake of the grand jury decision to not indict the police officer he used to choke hold eric garner. pat lirge, the president of new york's police unit is staunchly defending the decision and eric garner and blasting mayor bill de blasio who spoke bluntly about racism. his wife is african-american and two kids are biracial. here's what he said about his teenage son, donte. >> shirley and i had to talk to donte for years about the dangers he may face. we had to literally train him as families have all over this city for decades and how to take special care in any encounter he has with the police officers who are there to protect him.
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>> mr. lynch accused the mayor of throwing the nypd, the new york police department, under the bus. generated a lot of action. tonight, part two. >> i want to ask about your comment. you said the mayor thrown police officers under the bus. how have he won done? >> you have the mayor after the grand jury made their decision. the backs of new york city police officers, decades of racism. that's not true. i have 31 years of the new york city police department and never once heard a radio call when a call came over, what race are they? who did they love? where do they live? >> you don't believe race is an issue with new york city police officers as it is? >> it's a majority/minority police department. we're out there in the city of new york. we're doing our job well. we have thousands and thousands of interactions each and every day right outside of this building as we speak. we're doing our job well. we're not looking at who the person is. we're looking at the behavior that leads to the interaction
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with the police. that's the question, the behavior and why someone called the police in the first place. >> i talked to the borough council president. he said on the force, in brooklyn in some communities of color, it's different than they police on park avenue. >> that's absolutely not true. >> you say categorically not true. there's racism in every profession, on majority, police officers go out do the job. they're not asking who it is. they're getting a call of a crime. those calls come from the community. in this case in staten island, it was the community that called, not once. it was a chronic location. they went to the community council meetings and complained. the merchants asked us to be there. we didn't just show up. >> if everybody has inherent biases that sometimes they're not aware of. aren't those amplified among those who have powers over others? >> i don't believe so. you have to look at the number
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of cases and majority of people leave satisfied. we're not asking who they are. it just doesn't happen. >> i grew up believing the police are there to protect me. i knew a policeman on my corner as a kid, paul, i talked to him everyday, i wanted to be him. i talked to a lot of african-american parents who live in a different part of town than i grew up with and they have a completely different perception of the police. even if you're saying it's not correct, the fact that that perception exists and it's so widespread, isn't that a problem? >> i can understand that frustration and you watch the video and see the portion of it, i can understand being outraged at what you're seeing, not seeing the whole video or what led up to the video as well. i can understand that. we need a dispassionate conversation about it. not have rabble rouss, al sharpton, whose business is to stir the street up. if we want a real discussion
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like we have today, we can disagree but maybe we can come to a nice medium by having a real conversation. not rallies blocking the street. >> to an african-american parent out there who feels like, i have to have this conversation yet again with my teenage ton about how you carry yourself in front of a police officer. >> i can't place anyone at my kitchen's table by trying to tell them that but i will say this. the neighborhoods in the city of new york are much safer than they were a few short years ago because the police officers are willing to put him or herself at risk for sons and daughters. we should all have conversations with sons and daughters. part of that is your interaction with the police. don't put ourselves in a position of getting trouble. it's the behavior that leads to the interaction with the police, not who we are. >> i appreciate you being on. thank you. >> thank you. >> i think speak for all police
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officers when we aired part one of the interview. our next guest was watching and asked to come on the program and respond to what mr. lynch said. hudson is working on reform with the naacp and board of ethics project. he joins me tonight. so when you hear mr. lynch there saying racism isn't an issue within the nypd, is it possible that there's any police force in this country where some degree of racism isn't a problem and if so, how widespread do you think it is? >> i don't think it's possible, anderson. there are departments that serve at large where racism isn't an issue. it's too much history. a reference by a former new york city police officer i believe serving in government up there. >> borough president. >> he thinks police policed differently in his community than other communities.
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i believe his name was mr. lynch, to deny the lived reality of one of his fellow officers and the lived reality of many brown and black people all over this country. >> did you see that? >> absolutely. >> not just different strategies of policing but different ways? >> just a different approach immediately on the part of some of the officers on our department when it comes to dealing with black people on the street. for him to say when you receive a radio call, we don't ask the color, you don't have to. we see when we arrive and you do a great job in that department has settled over a billion dollars' worth of complaints against excessive force and other police misconduct in the last ten or 15 years. i don't know what he's talking about. yes, it's an honorable profession but we have people in this profession who willfully and knowingly and maliciously violate people's human rights,
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civil rights everyday somewhere in this country and it is time to have a dispassionate and honest discussion about exactly that. he's right about that in here. i saw the segment with him on you last night and referenced the fact we put our lives on the line, how dare you question what we do. you sign on for that. i sign on for that, we risk our lives knowingly, it doesn't give us a license to recklessly risk the lives of the people we serve and the film you saw with mr. garner being taken down, the only individual whose life was at risk in that encounter was mr. garner. >> there was a study back in 2000 by the justice department and among other things that highlighted discrepancy with what white officers and african officers used against african-americans and other minorities. 57% of african-american officers thought that african-americans and other minorities were given unequal treatment, but only 5% of white police officers thought that african-americans were given unequal treatment.
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that discrepancy to me is very telling. >> i think it's very telling too. and i think it goes to the filters that we have when we see ourselves and what we do and why we do it. the fact is, we have ample evidence now with the proliferation of video tapes, cell phones and everything else for mainstream america to see how widespread this problem really is. >> you believe part of the problem is that police investigate police. they're investigated by their friends. their friends are the ones having to give the punishments, so they're essentially protected and immune to harsh punishments, even from prosecutors who have to work with them in the future. >> absolutely. i don't think that's hard to understand. is there any entity we trust to investigate itself when there could be punishment at the other end of the investigation if wrongdoing is found? we need an independent entity found to find oversight and more
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importantly, some accountability, some punishment, a consequence, a real consequence for officers that abuse their authorities and violate the rights of the people they serve. >> reddit hudson, i appreciate you being on. >> thank you. up next, the nor'easter slamming the east coast. getting anywhere is incredibly difficult. one day so far. we track the storm that goes on. new calls to end police violence, protesters from new york at grand central terminal. (vo) there's no better gift than your best night's sleep. visit your local retailer and feel the tempur-pedic difference for yourself. ♪ hey man, have you tried the voice yeah, it's amazing.one 6? especially with things that don't normally work with regular texts like sarcasm. [sarcastically] please bring amanda. she's soo fun. or if you want to sing a message. [singing] ♪ do you need anything from the store.
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dumping points north. roads flooded in a lot of areas and tonight, 20 million people under storm warnings and advisories here in new york. record rainfall totals more than 3 inches of rain at jfk international airport today. close to that amount and several other locations and just beginning. it's going to go on and be a
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long lasting here and jennifer grey joining us now from cnn weather center. what area wrs the hardest hit? it's miserable here in new york city. >> it's miserable. we have the two sides of this. the rain kbri side and the snowy side. it was virginia to northern maine and the carolinas up to northern maine. as far as snow goes, it's still happening because it has been coming down for quite some time and so the snow is going to continue to come down for the next day, maybe even more, anderson. and then as far as the rain goes, the hardest hit was anywhere from new york city to boston. >> a lot of flight delays. >> from new york city to boston, you could be sitting at the airport for four hours or more. lucki luckily, the airlines are starting to catch up. now we see an hour and a half delays at both jfk and newark and one of the reasons, look at these wind gusts and 45 to 55-mile-per-hour gusts.
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if you were sitting at the airport, trust me, you do not want to be flying in that. >> what do you expect for tomorrow morning? >> this is going to linger, like we said. we have the winter storm warnings in effect from upstate new york to northern maine. that's going to be in effect through wednesday and we still have those flood watches in effect. we are starting to come down a little bit. new york city we included earlier. no longer the case, but still a couple of those flood watches and warnings still in effect and we are going to possibly see up to a foot of additional snowfall and upstate new york could see the same in northern maine and additional 4 to 8 inches of rain in portions of maine. this low is just being stubborn, so it's taking a while to get out of here and that's why you see the snow linger, anderson, for the next couple of days. >> jennifer grey, thank you very much. if e if there is a lot more happening tonight. susan hendricks.
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>> quarterback cam newton hospitalized with two in his back. he was involved a block from the accident. that's video of the aftermath. they saw cam newton's truck flip over four times. officials say the driver of the other car involved in the crash has minor injuries. we have new video of the aftermath in the plane crash in gaithersburg, maryland. three people on the plane were killed and three others killed in the home. a mother and two young sons. on capitol hill, m.i.t. economist jonathan groouber apologizes for what he calls gauntless and insulting comments about obamacare. caused a fire storm calling american voters stupid for suggesting a lack of transparency about the lost financing led to its passage. and prince william and wife, kate, paid their respects at
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another fatal shooting by new york police. this time inside a brooklyn synagog synagogue. it happened overnight and yet another window into what police officers face on the job. the split second decisions they have to make and the range of ways they respond to a violent crime. the man killed was armed with a knife and already attacked
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someone according to witnesses. in stable condition tonight. the repeated attempts during fast-moving and stressful situation to convince the stabbing subject to drop the knife and give himself up. here's rosa florns. >> reporter: a chaotic scene between new york city police and a suspect armed with a knife inside a brooklyn synagogue early tuesday morning. >> whoa. >> [ bleep ]. >> reporter: police say the suspect had just stabbed this man in what they call a random attack. the 22-year-old struck in the left temple with what police say was a 9 inch knife with a 4.5 inch blade while in deep study at the hahbad lolabich world headquarter. the man who captured it all on video doesn't want to show his face but wants to share what he
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witnessed. >> it was just shocking. the guys running around trying to stab people for no reason. he's not demanding money or demanding anything. he's just saying, who wants to die tonight? >> reporter: the standoff lasting several several minutes. the police repeatedly telling the suspect to put down his blade. meanwhile, a bystander off camera trying to play arbitrator. >> the guy on the side is trying to negotiate with him. >> reporter: also asking the suspect to put down the knife. that didn't work either. >> he's grabbing the knife again. >> reporter: police say the suspect lunged towards the officer before the officer took a shot. and didn't miss. shooting the suspect in the chest. >> don't move! >> he wouldn't give up. >> reporter: the suspect identified by police as 49-year-old calvin peters, later pronounced dead at the hospital. rosa flores, cnn, new york.
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i want to check in with kninick valenci valencia. the protest going on there at grand central station. what's going on there? >> reporter: anderson, in the last hour we saw this group from an intimate group to well over a hundred. people are demonstrating here and they say they want reform in the police department. they want to call attention to the death of unarmed civilians. they say it's been a systemic problem in the city. >> nick, you're saying about a hundred people there right now? >> reporter: yeah, there's about 100 people here right now. they've been by and large very peaceful here, anderson. the police have allowed them to sort of fluidly move through the city. they've been chanting things like i can't breathe and drawing attention to the death of people
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like aiki gurley and michael brown and eric garner. >> that does it for us. see you at 11:00 p.m. cnn special report, videos gone viral starts now. the following is a cnn special report. >> good evening, i'm kiera phillips. you've seen the videos countless times. images caught on tape. amazing rescues, death defieing acts, killer weather and outrajs criminals. but what are the real stories behind those pictures? what really happened before and after that camera started rolling? find out in videos gone viral. close calls, unexpected brushes with death and when they're caught on