much. we'll stay on top of the story in california. that is it for me. thanks for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." in the meantime, erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. >> "outfront" tonight, america's top spy from headquarters, defending his agency's honor. and eric garner's daughter staging a die-in as they decide the fate of the officer at the chokehold case, will he keep his job. and a super model, the latest to come out in the case against bill cosby. let's go "outfront." good evening, i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, firing back. cia director john brennan speaking out in a staunch defense of his agency in the wake of the torture report. he insisted that enhanced

interrogation techniques, in his words, valuable information. he said some of the actions were unauthorized and abhorrent and admitted the cia sometimes exceeded the legal authority during interrogations. he spoke to the nation and the world in a live address from cia headquarters and he began by recalling the horrible moments by 9/11 where planes ran into buildings and america changed forever. the plane in new york and then in shanksville, pennsylvania. and then he spoke of the heroism of the embattled cia agents. >> the men and women in our counter terrorism center stayed at their posts despite the danger. they worked through that day and that night and the following days an the following nights to piece together the clues as to what plans were under way to

carry out yet more atacts. >> barbara starr is "outfront" tonight at the pentagon. those are the strongest words from the cia director on this torture report and frankly, i thought in some ways, even stronger than the printed rebuttal they had released. >> well i think that is right, erin. good evening. this time john brennan wanted to speak publicly for the agency and the people who work for the cia and wanted to make a couple of very clear points. one of which is yes, they got valuable intelligence for people who underwent enhanced interrogati interrogation, but not that that enhanced interrogation caused them to get that information. this was a press conference full of news. in a 45-minute long press conference, cia director john brennan never used the word

torture to describe interrogation practices. >> as i said, in some instances i believe them to be abhor ebt and i'll let others describe them. >> he defended his agency, reminding everyone of the difficult challenges after 9/11. >> in our pain, we pledged to come together as one and to do what we could to prevent osama bin laden and his killing machine from ever carrying out another attack. >> it led to so-called enhanced interrogation techniques against detainees, waterboarding, being put in stress position, deprived of sleeps and chained to walls. he admitted mistakes were made by some but never admitted the so-called enhanced interrogation program was a mistake over all. >> i cannot say with certainty whether or not individuals acted with complete honesty. when i look at what went on at

the time, there are clearly the questions about why certain techniques were used. >> and in the hunt for osama bin laden, did enhanced interrogation actually result in intelligence critical to finding him. >> i am not going to attribute that to the use of the eit's, i'll just state as a matter of fact the information they provided was used. >> as brennan spoke at cia headquarters, senate intelligence committee chair dianne feinstein tweeted, cia helps keep our nation safe, strong. torture does not. brennan said there is no proof enhanced interrogation was the reason detainees offered up useful intelligence. >> the cause and effect relationship between the use of eit's and information provided by the detainee is in my view unknowable. >> feinstein on twitter, cia

says unknowable if we could have gotten the intel other ways. studies shows, it is knowable. cia had info before torture. >> now brennan said he does believe coercive interrogation can lead to a detainee, prisoner giving false information because sometimes they will say anything to make it stop. erin. >> thank you, barbara. and now adam prez, and who was in the room for the press conference and i heard you asking questions. this seems unprecedented and you may look at the screens, you have a locator, where it is. it says washington where you are. and it said langley, virginia, and has this happened at headquarters? >> they were searching and they couldn't find any instance where a cia director had a press conference beamed live to the world from langley, virginia, from the headquarters. it was a very surreal scene

because you had several rows of cia employees, people who their entire job is secret and they don't show themselves to the public, lined up in front of us in the press and to the director's right you had the rows -- 111 stars for the cia employees who have been killed in the line of duty. the memorial wall at the cia. so it was a show of strength for the cia and it was definitely something that was meant to reassure employees there. >> to that point of reassuring employees, just hearing it, he sort of sometimes seemed to say, here i am defending the cia and here i am saying what they did was abhorrent and tried to have it both ways quite a few times in his defense. what is the response? do agency employees think he went far enough to defend them? >> i think they do. i think there has been a lot of grumbling in the last few months they thought brennan wasn't doing enough to protect the

agency and try to stop this report from coming out. now that it is out, it is sort of like ripping the band aid. they feel that brennan was over there to defend what they were doing. he reminded everyone about 9/11 and the fact that the cia employees were the first on the ground after 9/11, 15 days after and a cia employee was one of the first mesh -- was the first american killed when the war started, erin. and so one of the things that brennan was trying to do was -- you saw the tweets from dianne feinstein and he was trying to de-escalate this war frankly between the agency and the senate democrats because frankly he needs them going forward. >> interesting. of course she was tweeting out when she heard something she liked, as if she was saying and i was watching that war go down. michael mckay served under bush, he opened an investigation into the cia's destruction of interrogation tapes of detainees

and that investigation later expanded under attorney general holder into a larger probe of the interrogation program and whether individuals should be charged with the crime of torture. thanks for being with me. brannan said the cia engaged in practices that were abhorrent. do you think it was abhorrent? >> that is not the standard. that is a great question, but that is not the standard. we have a law in this country and the torture statute said you can't under color of law intentionalitily cause somebody severe physical or mental pain or suffering. severe physical suffering or pain ssht defined, severe mental pain or suffering. >> so it gave them wiggle courtroom. >> no. it has to last beyond what is trangent, what they did, didn't

violate that statute. >> so i understand you are making a legal point. and whether you want to call it abhorrent, acceptable, whatever you want to say with your point of view, is whether they worked? did they work? did they get information that saved american lives? that is the crucial question at the heart tv and he-- the heartv and here is how john brennan answered today. >> i have already stated that the reviews indicate that the interrogation produced useful evidence that helped the united states thwart plans and capture terrorists and save lives. but let me be clear, we have not concluded that it is the use of eit's within that program that allowed us to obtain useful information from them. >> and eit is enhanced interrogation techniques. >> harsh interrogation

techniques. that is what he said. >> and you said waterboarding broke khalid sheikh mohammed like a dam. why are they not sure? >> because of the way the techniques were applied. in a sense he is precise but he is dead wrong. the way the techniques are applied is if somebody becomes uncooperative, the question sto stops. they don't question him when he is being uncooperative. they take him out and apply techniques and then let him become submissive and then then he leaves afterwards. and you can't say it was a particular technique that did it. but if abu zubayda is giving information that leads to the

arrest or identity of -- >> so you are saying that is a direct link. >> of course. it is a direct link. >> he didn't need to take this cause and effect line that he took today. >> because it didn't happen at the same time. and he's trying to walk a tight rope and i think it is unwise. >> and this issue, whether the word is abhorrent or whatever it might be, the issue of whether it is something the united states should have done, in 2008 you went before a senate judiciary committee hearing and you and ted kennedy had a conversation about waterboarding and here is that. >> would waterboarding be torture if it was done to you? >> um, i would feel that it was. >> so that's an honest answer. at that time you said you would have felt it was torture. but you also think it successfully resulted in saving lives in the case of khalid sheikh mohammed. so was it right for people to torture people. >> it was not right because

torture is illegal. >> and you are making a legal point and i get that. >> correct. that is the only. >> but with ted kennedy is how you said you felt it was torture. >> i stopped a line of questioning that wasn't going to go anywhere. i gave him an answer that he wanted to hear. >> but was it what you felt. >> it was what i felt, but my feelings are not what controls, the law is what controls. >> so you once told our evan perez, and now just reporting as you heard here for us, you said torture is a crime. this is the heart of it. torture is a crime. >> and we didn't commit any crimes. >> okay. because the legal point you're making. but if torture is a crime and you told ted kennedy and you said you believed it in your heart, putting law aside, that waterboarding is torture, should the people that said that waterboarding is legal, the lawyers who made those laws, that don't go along with what you think is right in your heart, should they be held

responsible? >> i didn't say that it was torture as to everybody. i said i might feel it was torture as to me. if it caused severe pain and long-term suffering. i don't know whether it would or not because i've never been water boarded. >> but you felt it would have been torture. for me that is good enough to say if you were attorney general at the time, wouldn't have been comfortable with it. >> would i be comfortable being water boarded? probably not. >> would you okay it for the united states and say that is okay? >> absolutely. >> you would have? >> absolutely. >> even though you felt it is towardure for yourself? >> absolutely. >> and why? >> because objectively it isn't. it doesn't cause severe pain. and it doesn't cause long-term suffering. and whatever i might feel was going to happen to me, if it didn't happen, then it is not torture. >> so i still don't totally understand the logic. because if you are saying you feel it was torture, then -- >> i didn't say i felt it was

torture. >> you said you thought it was torture if it happened to you. >> i allowed for the possibility. that is all i did. and -- >> but you would have done it, just to be clear, you would have approved it and said it was okay. >> correct. >> and you don't think anyone should be held responsible who made the decisions to say it is okay? >> responsible, yes. criminally liable, know. >> so it is not a crime. >> no. >> thank you very much. i appreciate you taking your time. and up next, a senate controversy. and breaking news, we are hours away from, oh, wow, a possible government shut down. do we have enough money to fix the capitol? it is a sad shot. we are live on capitol hill, next. ♪ ah, push it. ♪ ♪ push it. ♪ p...push it real good! ♪

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breaking news, a government shutdown could be hours away. at this hour, lawmakers trying to pass a spending bill to keep wash running and -- washington running. and that shot is terrible. we can do better than have a constant scaffold on our capitol. but the deal is now at risk and the white house is getting involved. our chief congressional correspondent dana bash is on capitol hill. i know i'm joking about scaffolding and the budget. >> it is apropos.

>> can they do this? >> the most liberal say they will avoid and shutdown and we are hours away. the government runs out of money at midnight tonight. so if they can't come to an agreement on what they hope, at least the negotiate ors hope, which is a big bipartisan bill through next year they will do a stop-gap to make sure it doesn't shut down. but what is going on here tonight is really bizarre. we saw the white house chief of staff come in to have an hour-long meeting with fellow democrats, trying to convince them -- we're not talking about republicans, but fellow democrats to go along with this bill that the white house supports. for so many years now, since republicans have been in charge, it has been partisan. and now you have strange bedfell bedfellows. you have republicans and democrats agreeing that what is in this bill, is too many

surprises and giveaways and something you are familiar with, wall street reform, that would roll back some of the reforms and a part of the bill that lifts the caps on campaign finance which allows wealthy donors to give $1.5 million every two years. so those are the kinds of things that are infuriating democrats on the left. some republicans are worried about other things and that is what is putting this in peril and hours away we don't know how this will end if the republican leadership will try to put this on the floor and see if it passes or not. we're not sure. they're scrambling to find that as we speak. >> i can't believe we are at this moment again. i honestly i didn't -- and for once, and i am negative about washington, didn't think that would happen. thank you. the president is making calls at this hour. and whether that is successful, we'll bring that to you. and michael hayden is named several times in the torture

report and he has been out everywhere vehemently defending the agency and one of the more controversial techniques called rectal rehydration. >> such as the rectal rehydration. >> no. stop. that was a medical procedure. that was done because of deta detainee health. the people responsible there for the health of the detainee saw they were becoming hydrated and they had limited options, it was intravenous with needles which is dangerous with a noncooperative detainee. >> with hummus and -- >> i'm not a doctor. this is one of the ways the body is rehydrated. these are procedures. >> and johning me jonathon bear and bob flate.

and they said the rectal feeding was better if you couldn't put a needle in someone's arm if they are resisting and the detainee who was remaining in the report and he ripped out the hose and so they did rectal feeding. that is the explanation. was that okay? >> no, you look at this in context, this is pure torture. rectal feeding, waterboarding. wall slamming. leaving people outside all night to die of hypothermia. it fits a pattern of abuse and that is the way it will be interpreted. >> and it is just an interesting -- jonathan to think -- you have bob bear from the cia saying this, what do you think about this? i just talked to michael mccasey

attorney general under george bush. they didn't commit any crimes, he said it wasn't torture because it wasn't legally. >> well, michael mccasey and i have spent time together and i like his personally but i was profoundly saddened to hear his interview. the man left to die on that concrete floor had, i would assume, lasting problems since he died. i don't know what report the two of us have read but it is two different reports. there is no question that waterboarding is a crime. it is a war crime. we have prosecuted americans for it and prosecuted foreigners for it. the whole world understands it is a crime. to have a former attorney general sitting there and debating whether it is a crime is other-worldly. and i don't know how we got to this point. it is not just what is in this

report that is so disturbing, what is disturbing is to hear the aftermath, to hear people say maybe it is effective. we helped write the treaty that said torture is not a defense. it doesn't matter whether you got spg oomething out of it, ita war crime. >> and jonathan, i hear what you are saying. it is a fair point. and i listened to john brennan talk today and the planes flying into the building and i was in new york at the time and i watched one of the planes fly into the building. and i felt tears come to my eyes. and that fear was palpable, does that explain what they did, in the context of the time, do you buy that excuse at all? >> you know, erin, i do buy it because the cia, the white house, the rest of them were just totally shocked by that attack. and i know what happens at the white house when something like this happens, they go to the cia and say fix it.

and the cia says well here is one extreme measure we could take and the vice president and the president say do it and condoleezza rice said do it. and i think brennan said we tried it for five years and it proved to be ineffective and read between the lines of what he said, he couldn't say it saved lives and he made a mistake and said we're not going to do it again. he put it in context and explained how the cia made the mistake and said they were ultimately wrong and that is what i understand him to say today. >> and should anybody be held accountable? that is what i was asking general mccasey. there were some that were reprimanded and lost their jobs at the time and did some things that were unauthorized but there were plenty of them that did what they were told to do because they were approved by the white house and the department of justice. so if you are going to hold someone accountable why are they reporting fingers at the cia and why not at those who approved it? >> well one of the most

disturbing facts about this report is the absence of any real accountability. if you read this report, it is a tour deforce of the criminal code it. has everything from torture itself to destruction of evidence, to obstruction of congress to lying to congress and lying to investigators. it is chock-full of clear criminal allegations of substantial report. and when you finish it, you are left with this crushing realization that not a single person was charged with a single crime. and most the cia would say today, is well, we failed to hold people accountable. these are crimes. these are not just some mishaps. so the question i think that history will ask is why people were not held accountable. president obama, after his first election, went to the cia and promised cia officials that no one would be prosecuted and the justice department fulfilled that oath. >> right. he investigated and said there

was nothing to prosecute. >> well, the fact is, if you read this report there was a great deal to prosecute. what was clear is the administration didn't want anyone prosecuted. that is why you are seeing other countries as they are entitled to under our treaty obligations saying that we believe and we are willing to hold people accountable for what is defined clearly as war crimes. >> well i thank both of you very much for joining us. and no one will ever know what is going on in the heart of the president, but he might have said if he was there, he might have done the same thing. and under departmental review, will the police officer who killed garner keep his job. and now another super model is accusing bill cosby. her story ahead.

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officer. and there were many people there. including the governor of my home state, gathered together with their hands up on capitol hill to show frustration. and nypd is investigating the fate of officer daniel pantaleo. we have more on the -- more on his future with the force. >> reporter: the video shows multiple police officers arrested unarmed eric garner. officer daniel pantaleo with his arm around his neck. garner would later die from what the medical examiner said was a chokehold. a grand jury didn't indict and now the nypd is investigating personally. and the big question is will he keep his job? randall mclaughlin has been trying cases for 35 years and said that while historically the

law favors officers, daniel pantaleo should at the very least lose his job. >> we shouldn't be paying for that man to engage in this kind of conduct, especially an individual who feels he did nothing wrong. that tells me, i think i did the right thing and i'll do it again. >> daniel pantaleo's attorney disagrees. saying in a statement in part, he indicated he never used a chokehold. he used a takedown technique he was taught in the academy. he said he never exerted any pressure on the windpipe and never intended to injure mr. garner. in other high-profile cases officers have managed to get by with little or no repercussions. take the deallo case in 1999. four police officers shot an unarmed black man 41 times, hitting him 19 times. he won't survive. and the officers were acquitted of all criminal charges. three officers opted to leave the force, the fourth returned

to the nypd but worked without a gun for more than a decade. >> then there is the 2006 shawn belle case. bell and two friends were shot by plain-clothes detectives outside of a nightclub during his bachelor party. officers fired 50 rounds in a few seconds, killing bell and wounding his friends. one officer was fired. three others were forced to offered to with pension. >> the city in those cases rightfully is saying to it self-we don't -- itself, we don't need these kind of officers. in daniel pantaleo case he wasn't even indicted, leaving if he will receive any punishment at all. >> and now investigators questioning pantaleo for two hours this week and the investigation could take three or four months and at the end of

the day the police commissioner will decide his fate. now we should also add that a federal investigation is also pending and erin, none of those details are public yet. >> thank you very much, rosa. and now criminal defense attorney paul martin, defending an nypd detective acquitted in the killing of shawn belle and senior analyst mark o'mara. and you've seen the video of officer pantaleo. he was not indicted. but at this point, the guy was not indicted. so they could theoretically pay him and put him on desk leave and he can sit there and twiddle his thumbs but he was not indicted. >> but if i was advising him and he wants to be effective, it won't happen. i would advise him to offered to. but i'm not so sure he should be fired. >> so you don't think he should be fired but of his own choice. and i think you said daniel

pantaleo could no longer be a police officer and who would work with him and go on and on. and when you look at high-profile cases like the shawn belle case, most officers get to retire. could that be the same for pantaleo? >> oh, absolutely. if he violated department policy which he may well have done when garner was on the floor, that could be a reason to fire him or let him go. it is a separate decision whether or not he gets a pension or retirement benefits. he hasn't been an officer very long so there is not much he'll get from nypd. but like we talked about yesterday, the reality is he is now sort of this focus point and he can't risk partners, himself or nypd's reputation by staying on the force. >> paul, during rosa's report she talked about someone who for quote unquote, for ten years had a desk job. that causes outrage for some people because what are you doing if you are not carrying a

gun and you are an ex cop. what are you doing? >> we are on a dangerous area. here is an individual that hasn't been convicted of any crime or been found guilty in any way. who you point out today, they will point at you tomorrow. if the gentleman has not been convicted, he's entitled to earn a living and so therefore, let him work. now i don't think he could work as a police officer. i think we do agree about that. but a dangerous area because public opinion is against you that we start firing people. i'm not for that. >> it is dangerous. but people do get outraged when these situations end with someone being paid to essentially do nothing, mark. >> and we have to be sensitive to the reality this is in the public view. this is a situation that is now a national event and if nypd is insensitive to that, it only adds fuel to the fire of the insensitivities to young black males so unfortunately daniel pantaleo may be a sacrificial

lamb for the nypd. >> on that point we agree. >> and mark, you represented mark zimmerman. he can't get a job. does that make you more s sympathet sympathetic. >> look at zimmerman, and pantaleo, and unfortunately they are put in the public eye and now they have to move on in a different life track. darren wilson will never be a cop again because he can't. pantaleo, i feel the same way. and mr. zimmerman, for whatever he may have done before february of 2012, he could have never done what he did before then. harsh realities but this is what happens in the day of in stand social media and the fact that these situations are played out in the public eye. we have to be sensitive to the national concerns. >> while they do play out in the public eye and i understand your point about glilt or innocence -- guilt or innocence, and it is the public eye and

court of public opinion and it is public money. >> but remember this -- the cnn, when you send out a tweet and all of the social media, it doesn't give the full picture of what transpired. i represented a client who, if you asked me, did nothing wrong in the shawn belle situation and he was forced to retire from a job that he loved and worked on for 20 years, protecting the black and the white community. and i just thought that was unfair. >> well thanks very much to both of you. appreciate your time. and i want all of you to weigh in on this one. perhaps a little bit more morally difficult than it may have seemed at first. next, a famed super-model is stepping out accusing bill cosby of drugging her. and isis reportedly offering the body of an american hostage for sale for an asking price of $1 million. our special report. [ fishing rod casting line, marching band playing ]

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from sexual assault one night in his apartment. she writes for vanity fair, when doing actor lines and he gave her a drink and she said she knew she had been drugs an drugged good. lisa bloom is out front tonight. beverly johnson is known to many americans and iconic. is the fact that she is coming forward when so many already has, is this something thatsy game-changer or not? >> reporter: oh, i certainly think it is. like janice dickinson, someone we know and we've seen on television is making allegations, it is like one of our friends is coming forward. at this point there is over two dozen woman who have come forward. if even half of them are telling the truth, bill cosby is a serial sexual predator and i think beverly johnson's story is

believable in vanity fair. >> and you say so many are coming forward with the same story, does that mean they are seeing a story and repeating it as opposed to it happening to them. is there anything to that, for a second, makes you pause. >> that is possible. but you have to ask yourself what is in it for people like beverly johnson. to be subjected to mean-spirited comments online and being accused of being gold diggers even though she is not asking for my money. most of them are not asking for my money. being accused of liars, wanting their 15 minutes of fame. over all, this is a negative experience for most of these women and they know that going into it. >> so johnson writes in her essay in vanity fair that she wanted to call bill cosby to have him come clean and thought he would come clean and maybe she could just clear this incident out of her mind. she called his house and his wife answered the phone and said he was busy or in bed and she

said she didn't call back because in the end, just like the other women, i had too much to lose to go after bill cosby. she said she was afraid at the time of what it would do to her career and she had gone to a divorce and financially stressed, and he was -- and everybody in the country knows it, he was an incredibly powerful man. >> yeah. and how sad is that. really the story to me is far bigger than bill cosby and the couple dozen of women who have accused him. it is a story of how women don't trust our justice system to not protect them of a powerful man. and after deciding in her own mind, i can't go through with this with someone as bill cosby or having someone in their lives, lawyers and agents, saying don't do this, it will ruin your career. if you were to believe the women, he was allowed to rape again and again and again. >> again and again and again. lisa bloom, thank you.

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tonight, isis reportedly trying to sell the remains of american james foley who was beheaded by the terror group in august. a source close to isis tells the web site, buzz feed, the militants hand over the american journalist's remains for $1 million. the u.s. is investigating the claim and brian todd is out front. >> reporter: he was the first american beheaded by isis. >> i wish i had more time. >> reporter: four months after the killing of american journalist james foley, security council officials say they look into a report that isis is trying to negotiate the sale of foley's body. >> isis is trying to sell the body of james foley for $1 million. >> reporter: mike giglio

reported the story. they're in contact with associates. why does he think sources are credible? >> i would say each of these sources are people that i've known before to have replations for being in connection with isis. >> reporter: giglio said isis and associates have a specific plan for transporting foley's bodying. >> they're offering a dna sample once confirmed the body was foley's, isis would receive $1 million in exchange for it and someone, most likely a middleman associated with isis, would deliver the body across the turkish border. >> reporter: cnn cannot independently verify the account but his brother said, quote, there's absolutely no truth to it. we asked giglio about that. >> the foley family is aware of it and i was careful to make

sure this focuses on isis's intentions. >> reporter: military officials tell cnn if the report is true, it's another example of what they call isis's depravity. the middle east is full of shady operators trying to operate deals like this. >> you find a middleman promising western government or families that they may be able to get access, get a deal done but also, going back to isis and saying, well, they also have been in touch with government's family members and sort of playing both sides and trying to make money out of it. >> reporter: paul cruickshank said anyone thinking they can make a deal now isn't dealing with reality since there wasn't a successful negotiation for james foley while he was still alive. erin? >> brian, thank you. and next, there are some scary ski trails for those aficionados among you and then

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>> reporter: what you're about to see is no mere ski slope. this is a man eating crevice.

>> ooh, i'm getting nervous. >> reporter: 31-year-old cody townsend is about to descend. >> there's no exit plan. there is no escape. >> reporter: the plunge down this alaskan crevice lasted 13 seconds and the narrowest point was only 6 feet apart. check out the helmet cam view, top speed, 65 to 70 miles per hour. >> you see that you're going really fast. you see that the walls are really close to you. >> reporter: but cody said he was very zen. >> it's almost as if time slows down. holy [ bleep ]. >> reporter: makes bond's exports on skis almost look wimpy. child's play compared to this. so a crevice like that must have a terrifying name, right? >> yeah, it does have nicknames but i would blush if i had to tell you what the nicknames were. >> reporter: cody won him powder

magazine's best line of 2014 award. >> so psyched. >> reporter: his fellow skiers gushed. >> that was the sickest line i've ever seen. >> reporter: the trickiest part was at the end of the narrowest section where there was a slight turn. >> possibly the turn of my life to not hit the wall that was in front of you. >> reporter: what's he get? great exposure in a red bull documentary, the kind of fame that leads to even more endorsements, but cash? i used to assume they give you a chunk of money to do that. >> that would be morally wrong to do that, i think. no, we do it because we love it. >> reporter: you think that's scary to watch? imagine cody's mother, the first time she saw it. >> she did cry, which i kind of felt bad about. >> reporter: cody didn't celebrate by partying. he took in an alaskan blood moon. >> i sat there and basked in it. >> reporter: better a blood moon than a bloody wreck. jeanne moos, cnn, new york.

>> oh my god, that was the scariest thing i've ever done. >> it's a story like that that makes you realize you're getting old. at what point do you realize, whoa, i'm impressed. set dvr to outfront anytime. anderson starts now. john burma sitting in for anderson. weather hitting northern california that dumped a foot of rain in some places. brought snow and hurricane forces to others and sent the bay into a good chunk of what in better conditions is nearly the city by the bay. national weather service broadcast a warning every 15 minutes telling drivers in flood zones, turn around. don't drown. up until tomorrow. in short, it is