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that allowed us to gather useful information. the cause and effect relationship between the use of eits and useful information subsequently provided by the detainee is in my view unknowable. >> john brennan admitted the cia made mistakes. >> i cannot say with certainly whether or not individuals acted with complete honestly. >> but he would not call it torture. brennan, the cia deputy director when these tactics were used. one froze to death. director brennan said he dependent b know fully what was going on back then. >> there were many things that i read in that report that were very concerning and disturbing
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to me. >> now mark eudall has called fr brennan to resign. the president made strong statement against these practice ps. another white house, emphatic that torture undermines america's moral authority and standing in the world. yet brennan and fbi director james comey, president bush's deputy attorney general remained in this administration. >> how does it not undermine our moral authority to keep people people on who were in that era.. >> those individuals are not engaged and are not supporting a policy of enhanced interdags techniques. and the reason he's not doing it is because he banded in his second full day in office. i suppose if individuals didn't agree with that policy, they wouldn't be serving with the president. >> the former cia director who was in charge in the last few years of the bush administration is defending some of the hashest tactics used on detainees. >> michael hayden is also
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denying claims from the report's author that he hid information about the program from lawmakers. here's what he told rj tucker. >> is she saying that you misled congress, your response? >> my response is you've got to be kidding. i'm the one who argued within the administration frankly with the strong support of the president in 2006 during that first summer when i was director, that we had to go full monty to the committees. this could not just be the president's program. it had to be america's program, jake. and to do that, we needed political support from the other political branch. so i went down there in september of '06 and then letter, the first time all the members of the intelligence committee have been briefed on all details of the program. and the only thing i told them i had to bit withhold from them is the location of the sites >> let's differentiate between the abuses, such as the rectal
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rehydrati rehydration. >> no, stop. that was a medical procedure. that was done because of detainee health. the people who are responsible there for the health of these detainees saw that they were becoming dehydrated. they had limited options in which to go do this. it was intravenous with needles, which would be dangerous with a noncooperative detainee. >> pu reing hum mus and pine nut dshs. >> jake, i'm not a doctor and neither are you. what i'm told is this is one of the ways the body is rehydrated. these were medical procedures. >> you're defending rectal rehydration? >> what i'm defending is history. to give you a sense of how this report was put together, this activity, which was done five times and each time for the health of the detainee,s not part of the interrogation program, not designed to soften him up for any question, the committee, the democrats on the committee have used one
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half-assed unwarranted comment in one e-mail to justify the story that you have now bought hook line and sinker that we use this to abuse other human beings. >> now we're also heari inin ii one of the two psychologists mentioned in the senate report as architects of the program. >> the two psychologists were actually paid -- get this -- more than $80 million to design and to run this program. he was not allowed to comment though he did call the report a partisan pile of crap. >> now this week marks the 30th anniversary of the united states' convention against torture ironically. this is a promise not to engage in torture that's been ratified by 156 countries since 1984. >> human rights dog amnesty
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international still engaged in the forms. >> north korea certainly no stranger to accusations of torture as well as starvation and even execution. those can be some of the consequences for those who dare to defy the regime. >> now two defectors are publicly sharing their very painful stories with the u.s. state department and also the rest of the world. >> beneath the pomp and circumstances, north koreans live in fear and die of hunger. new details of the regime's brutality. this woman came from an elite family before her world came crashing down.
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>> my phat father, my hero got involved for his illegal training business and was sent to a labor re-education camp. and he was beaten so badly he couldn't even go to bathroom by himself. >> she escaped to china with her parent, but her family back home still faces retaliation. >> some were fired from their jobs and others were interrogated and torture. >> hunger is humiliation. hunger is hopelessness. >> joseph kim's father starved to death before his eyes. >> i saw my father wither away and die. and after he passed, things became even more difficult for our family. his mother and sister escaped to china, looking for work. >> my sister was sold to a man, but it was only because my mom thought it would be a better life for her than return to north korea.
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this is important part of my story. that i hope illustrates how difficult and desperate the life is and how many north korean mothers were forced to make this kind of heart breaking decisions. >> a student in new york, joseph worries about those who weren't lucky enough to make it out. >> i can't stop think about some of my friends who are so lost their families. those friends who are so used to sleeping on the street in north korea. i am wondering where they are now and what they are doing today. >> from the top u.s. human rights official, a warning to the regime. >> we see you, we know who you are, we know what you're doing. we can't hide it anymore. and it's interesting, the north korean regime does have shame
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because they deny this, which tells me that they know on some level that it is wrong and potentially dangerous for them in the future if we know it. >> the nonbinding resolution is expected to come up for a vote in the general assembly later on this month. just ahead, u.s. lawmakers avoid a shutdown just in time. >> they agreed to spending bills. they had moments to spare. and guess what, not everyone is happy about it. >> yeah, plus people are reeling along the u.s. west coast. just take a look at this on your screen there. you want to stay tuned for this. detail whence we come back. ♪
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and if you ignore the signs, the more debilitating your symptoms could become. learn more about the role damaging inflammation may be playing in your symptoms with the expert advice tool at crohnsandcolitis.com. and then speak with your gastroenterologist. >> just in the nick of time, washington manages to avoid a shutdown. the house of representatives narrowly approves a spending bill for about $1 trillion to keep government agencies from running out of money this week. the senate had to agree to a two-day extension of current funding levels to give itself a little more time to approve the bill. >> the report was anything but guaranteed.
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>> things began to unravel big time when house democrats led by the house democratic leader split from the white house, split from senate democrats, and started to say that they don't like some of the things that were in this bill. things that they said hurt consumers. they were for the healthy, like rolling back some wall street reforms. and also campaign finance laws being changed, lifting caps that led wealthy donors to give even more money than they do now. so because of that, it was not clear whether the votes were going to be there. and at the end of the day, you saw the white house cleef of staff come here to capitol hill, try to convince house democrats that this is the best that they can do, that this actually big picture sets democratic priorities before republicans take over in congress.
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the bill only funds the department of homeland security in february that's when republicans will vow to pass new restrictions on the agency responsible for carrying out president obama's executive orders on immigration. so watch closely. . >> two people are dead in the most powerful storm to hit the u.s. pacific coast for years. a boy was trapped under this tree. he was freed luckily with only minor injuries downed trees actually killed two people in oregon. and in portland, the winds were strong enough to blow out windows in the busy financial district. >> it was coming so fast i had about one second to turn away from the windows so my back was in the window. it blew in and shattered glass
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went everywhere, totally. and papers, it was like being in a tornado. my papers in my office were flying in all directions. but we've been trying to get all the files out of there because they may not be able to secure the window before it starts raining. >> now the fear of flooding is slowly moving south in the state. >> want to go now to our resident weather expert, derek van dam. we're talking about wind of 89 miles an hour. and two people are dead. >> this is an area that received a lot of fires in the past year because of the ongoing drought in that region. but now with the the excessive hateful we see that combining with mud for the possibility of mud slides. highway 101, the famed highway 101, if you've traveled along the west coast of the united states, you' probably driven this exact highway. closed in both directions north and south on thursday.
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impressive hateful totals. we've had extreme drought across northern california. ? fran in 2013, just receiving over eight centimeters of hateful in the entire year. with this storm moving through now, we've already received seven. central california has actually received the most amount of rain. and winds speeds impressive as well. tropling trees. two confirmed deaths as you heard zain report on just a minute ago. it is still raining very steadily in san francisco. so flooding is still a concern for that area. but we've got the leading edge of our cold front moving towards the southern portions of california. there's also a line of very strong storms that have developed. so the national weather service coming out of southern california warning for the possibility of water spouts and even small tornadoes and of course, localized flooding still a concern as it continues to move across the area.
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repercussions at the start of the flights. we have hateful totals going forward two to four inches for that rain. is we have flood watches in effect for many areas. and also winter storm warnings, two to three feet possible with this storm. good news for skiers and snowboarders. it even whipped up some of the waes allowing surfers to take advantage of this. very rare site coming out of california. we do have good news to report. finally it looks like the system is going to clear out by the weekend and we'll have cooler weather and much more settled
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condition conditions. >> isn't it just incredible, though? california has been complaining of a drought for how long. and now this. >> they'll take what they can get. it's just been so excessive in such a short amount of final. >> thank very much. >> appreciate it, derreck. >> turning now to the west bank, where we could see more protests today over the death of a palestinian minister who got caught up in a confrontation with israeli soldiers. >> an up a has been performed by doctors from both sides, plus doctors from jordan. but it doesn't line up with the israeli health minister's view. >> a pl stainian minister died with his troops. thousands led by president
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mahmoud abbas. his death has thrown the already deeply troubled relationship between israel and the palestinian authority into crisis. >> wednesday evening, abbas chaired an emergency meeting of the palestinian leadership. we cannot remain patient or quiet about it.. israeli prime minister sentd a personal message to the palestinian authority that israel will investigate the incident. but there's little, if any, trust left between the two sides. jordanian, palestinian and israeli paologists performed an autopsy but failed to agree on what happened with his death. a preliminary report from the
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israeli health ministry said his death was caused by a blockage of the coronary artery. because of hemorrhaging, pointing out that he had a heart condition. the dramatic images captured wednesday speak more than the autopsy's words. the camera's pictures make it clear, he says. he was beaten, his neck was squeezed. the gas and the stress and the shouting all led to his death. they are fraps a reminder, however, that this smoldering, century-old conflict can quickly burst into flames. >> in the wake of the death, israel has beefed up security in
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jerusalem and the west back. there's very little certain in this part of the world, except the certainty of more trouble to come. >> of we will, of course, keep an eye on that story. another country moves to recognize palestine as a state. the french senate on thursday narrowly approved to ask the government to recognize the palestinian state, the lower house we know approved the move last week. >> this vote is symbolic and nonbinding and calls for the immediate restarting of peace talks between israel and the palestinian authority. uk and sweden recently approved similar measures. >> up next, a new warning about superbugs. why some believe that drug resistant infections could soon kill more people than cancer. [ male announcer ] whether it takes 200,000 parts,
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>> a nurse is back in the united states and being mon tord. the national institutes of health said it admitted her out of an abundance of caution and
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that no other patients right now are at any risk. >> meanwhile, the world health organization says the suspension of trials oof an experimental ebola vaccine is not a setback in the fight against the deadly disease. the geneva university hospital announced thursday it was suspending the trials after several volunteers experienced joint pain. >> those trials are expect to resume next month and another experimental vaccine is being tested on another set of volunteers in switzerland. trials are also under way in mali, britain and the united states as well. >> now, according to a new report across the globe, drug resistant infections are expected to dramatically increase unless some kind of action is taken. >> an economist who led the study blames the problem in part on our overreliance on an bty biotics. here's our rosie tompkins. >> in the race to stay one step ahead of infectious disease, we seem to be losing.
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super bugs carrying drug resistant forms of disease like malaria and tuberculosis are growing fast. and today the threats to the human race are more certain than climate change. today, drug resistant diseases claim the lives of around 700,000 people each year. now, that's expected to leap to 10 million by 2050. compare that with today's deaths from cancer. 8.2 million each year. now, the stud zi goes further to talk about the economic impact, predicting global costs will spiral upwards to $100 trillion. a staggering figure, especially when considered alongside annual world gdp today. around $70 trillion. according to the economist jim o'neill who sted led the study, even that is an optimistic scenario. >> look at the cost of increased health care. and most importantly, it doesn't include stuff that has become so normal for our generation, or at
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least in the developed world -- hip operations, knee operations, et cetera, et cetera, all of which could become impossible. and it could be double that number. so it's really big. >> the main culprit is overprescribing of antibiotics. >> my generation thinks of antibiotics that will solve everything when you take one. it's not true. and we've got to re-educate ourselves and help the next generation to think differently. >> the study sounds the alarm and galvanizes global action. >> the it's going to affect everybody. it's something that there has to be a collective agreement on. >> rosie tompkins, cnn, london.
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>> other big stories coming up, frantic missions from the cia director on the post 9/11 interrogation program. next, find out why the united nations wants those involved in the program prosecuted. >> yeah, plus more fallout from the e-mail hacking scandal at sony picture. this is really the gift that keeps on giving. now a high-ranking executive is apologizing. u.s. authorities are tracking who they think is behind the leak. celebrate what's new, the bigger, better menu at red lobster! with more of what you love! try our newest wood-grilled combination! maine lobster, extra jumbo shrimp, and salmon! so hurry in! and sea food differently.
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>> of the u.s. house of the representatives has approved a spending bill to keep government agencies from running out of money. and the senate has agreed to a two-day extension of the current funding levels to give itself time to approve the house bill. president barack obama is expected to sign it into law. >> there are two deadly attacks. >> and a cia director john brennan never used the world torture as he defends his agency's harsh tactic against post 9/11 detainees. in a news conference, he admitted some actions were not authorized and also abhorrent. >> and during that news conference when he was pressed on what these tactics provided,
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he says it's unknowable if any specific intelligence was obt n obtained because of a direct result of the tactics. >> and a former general in the white house disagreed with that assessment. he explains his reasoning to our erin burnett. take a listen. >> if someone becomes uncooperative, they don't question him when he's being uncooperative. they take him out, apply whatever techniques they're going to apply and wait until he becomes submissive. then the guy doing that leaves and the interrogation resumes. now if he changes afterwards, i guess you can't say that it was the techniques or a particular technique that did it. but if abu zubaydah is resi
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resisting -- >> so you think there's a direct link. >> it wasn't happening at the same time. that's the only reason he's not sure. and he's trying to walk a tight robe and i think it's unwise. >> the united states representative says there's no gray area involved in this discussion. he calls it a violation of international law. >> and he wants the u.s. to prosecute all of those who are responsible. here's what he told us. >> whether it produced actionable intelligence or not is irrelevant. prosecuting crimes of torture is an obligation resting on the united states. and whether or not actionable intelligence resulted makes no difference to the legal liability of those who committed crimes of torture. >> how do you foresee or do you foresee some kind of formal frame work to arrest and try
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the these? >> they already said they're not going to pursue it. >> the doj announced a policy that there would be no prosecution of officials who have acted in good faith. they were only ever going to be criminal investigations in respect to those few cases which as director brennan recently said involved individual cia agents going beyond the authorization. that is untenable position. >> those involved in the authorization itself are criminally responsible. italy is one example where there's already been. and the third possibility is the
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officer of the prosecutor of the international criminal court is currently investigating the abuse by u.s. forces in the cia of detainees in afghanistan. >> and since the u.s. is not even a cig toir to the icc? >> it makes no differences for those purposes because afghanistan is. >> and there are a wide range of opinions on this controversial topic. for much more on the sbefr national reaction to the senate report, just ahead to cnn.com. we've compiled comments from leaders around the world. and you can also read the report for yourself. that's at cnn.com. >> people are really going to be focused on this story for quite some time indeed. >> eric garner who died after being put in a chokehold by a police officer, his family is
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now staging a protest. >> a grnd jury determined over a week ago that officer daniel pantaleo should not face charges. garner's daughter says she wants to keep her father's memory alive and she won't give up pop i'm not stopping until this doesn't happen again. >> it's not going to stop until everybody as people get justice. >> dozens of u.s. congressional staff caulked off on thursday. you can see they all put their hand in the air in protest of what they're calling police brutality. >> this sparked outrage across the country. >> they were showing support of
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the family of eric garner and mike brown. grand juries chose not to indict those officers. so it sparked a detate and the controversy continues. >> meanwhile, new and candidate louse secrets from sony pictures are showing up all over the internet. this really is the gift thats on giving. a new secret unveiled pretty much every single day. >> it's happening just as the fbi and other investigators still trying to determine if north korea is behind a computer attack that stole all those credits. secrets. even barack obama is mentioned. >> hollywood's elite have been rubbing elbows with president obama for years, making millions in fundraising problems for him. now one of hollywood's biggest players forced to apologize for e-mails in which he wrote racially charged jokes about the president, e-mails made public by hackers.
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in one e-mail to a producer, despite being a prominent democratic party donor, he insinuates that obama only likes films with black actors like "django unchained." shortly before attending an event with the president wrote, should i ask if he liked django. pascal wrote back, or "the butler." >> she said even though this is a private communication, she took full responsibility and apologizes for it. today, pasqual released a statement saying it's not an accurate reflection of who i am. i accept full responsibility for what i wrote and apologize to everyone who was offended. >> it's just the latest embarrassing leak after hackers, calling themselves guardians of peace, infiltrated sony's computer systems, in an unprecedented breach. also revealing celebrity social
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security numbers and salaries. studio secrets about budget-busting movies like the next james bond bill "specter." leaked memos reveal it's already $50 million over budget. other newly surfaced e-mails bash stars like tom cruz, angelina jolie and adam sandler. >> you see a lot of phone calls being made to talent and their representatives trying to mend fences. >> the leaks are causing prominent producers, directors and sony executives to go on major damage control. >> they eers embarrassed. they're hue mill humiliated. it's an awkward situation. >> a big concern is more leaks could spill out and affect people for months and years to come. >> some believe this was a terrorist act, the equivalent of a physical bombing but cyber-based instead.
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>> it's shocking what came out of the e-mails. what was said about angelina jolie, kevin hart. just inkreable. >> i cover entertainment in los angeles for a couple of years -- >> off to laugh. >> i don't think this is unique to sony. this is kind of a widespread thing. it's not just in the entertainment industry. executives and people in businesses tend to communicate frankly and not edit themselves. >> who know what is's going to come out next week. forces with first-hand knowledge of the investigation say the hack is believed to be politically motivated. and the hackers are intent, this is what they believe, on embarrassing sony by slowly trickling out confidential information and private e-mails to the public. >> take a look at this. officials say the laser system has performed so well in tests that it's now been authorized for use in naval combat. they say it could be used to stop threats rienging from
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drones and helicopters to small patrol boats. this is the first ever deployment of an energy weapon at sea. >> okay, well, google is shutting down some of its services in spain. coming up next, why a new law will make it harder for some in the country to find news. that it's given me time toabout reflect on some of life'seen biggest questions. like, if you could save hundreds on car insurance by making one simple call, why wouldn't you make that call? see, the only thing i can think of is that you can't get any... bars. ah, that's better. it's a beautiful view. i wonder if i can see mt. rushmore from here. geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance.
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>> spain passed a law requiring google, for example, to pay to display spanish news content. >> cnn samuel burke explain, critics of the new rule say they won't benefit anyone. here he is. >> when you google a news story in the result, google shows the headline and often a line or two from stortry. a new spanish law will go into effect and websites like google will have to pay spanish publishers if those lines end up on their site. google argues that they make no money from their news service, since there are no ads on that part of the site. and in is a block post on wednesday, the head of google news wrote, quote, publishers can choose whether or not they want their articles to appear in google news and the vast majority choose to be included for a very good reason. they direct traffic to news websites which helps generate
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advertising revenues. in fact, germany's largest publisher ran an experiment and saw traffic plummet without the service. of course, now spanish publishers shouldn't count on getting a penny from goog which will said it's not only closing down google news in spain, it's also removing every spanish publisher from the entire news service. samuel burke, cnn, new york. >> cruise oil changed below $650 a barrel. good news for consumer e, but bad news for oil-producing companies. those plunging oil prices are just one of the things driving russia's economy into the ground. on thursday, the country's central bank hiked interest rates for the fifth time this year, taking them to $10.5%.
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russia's central bank says it does not expect economic growth to return before 2017. nevertheless, russia has struck a new deal with india. it agreed to build new nuclear reactors to boost the nuclear corporation between the two countries. the announcement came as russian president vladimir putin visited india, holding meetings with senior official, including the prime minister. >> now ind b yeah just overturned a law that said anyone who tried to take their own lives could be prosecuted and sent to prison. a recent report found india had the highest suicide rate in the world for those between 15 and 29 years old. it's now hoped that number will decline with this change to the law. >> we will call him finny. he's 20 years old. he doesn't want to reveal his name or face, but he does want to show his story.
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he says he never fared well in school, had few friends was arguing with his girlfriend and had parents who didn't understand him at all. he was depressed and desperate. >> you would cut yourself? >> i cut myself. >> he shows us the scars and says there are many more on his body. >> vinny even attempted suicide. he received timely medical intervention, many don't. according to a recent world health organization report, india has the highest suicide rate in the 15 to 29 age group.
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bobby zach ree yeah blames a breakdown in traditional indian structure. >> now it's the one child in the country. and the patients style that applied when they were kids doesn't apply to their children. >> a rpdly developing india means there's enormous pressure to get good grades and high-paying jobs. anthony fertado says his son was extremely worried about his 12th grade exams. a few days before he was to get his results -- >> i went and opened the door, turned the lying on and found him hanging. when the results came, he learned that mikhail had sailed through with good grades. now he counsels others and is a regularly at suicide prevention workshops.
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>> i do break down, but he is great. >> as for vinnie, he continues to get counseling and also counsels others. it helps to no that i've been there and i'm so much better now. >> some of the stories, just listening to them, certainly very heart breaking, very touching indeed. we turn now to hong kong. could the unbrother moveme-- um movement finally be coming to an end? just a small group of protesters remain block ace way from the protest site in hong kong that was actually torn down on thursday. they're outside a busy shopping area on hong kong island.
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>> the dozens or so protesters say they will comply with police if asked to leave. asser if the protesters next move, that's still unclear. >> we will keep monitoring what's going on with the government and see what we can do. >> police say their priority is to make sure protesters don't return to the main site. >> well, if you need an adrenaline rush, it's 1:00 in the morn, you want to stay tuned for this. up next, take a look at this. we have a first person view of quite possibly the scariest ski run ever. we'll hear from the man behind this daring video. [prof. burke] it's easy to buy insurance and forget about it. but the more you learn about your coverage, the more gaps you might find. like how you thought you were covered for this. [boy] check it out,mom!
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>> michael keaton's movie about a washed-up actor who played a former superhero cleaned up nicely. "birdman" got seven no, ma'am nass including best comedy or musical. >> meanwhile in the drama category, "boyhood" "fox catcher" "selma" and "the theory of everything" proving very popular. and also "the imitation game" are in the running. and an 11-year-old picked up her first nomination for best actress in a comedy or musical for her role in the new version of "annie." and hollywood veteran meryl streep on the other end of the spectrum got her 29th golden globe nod for "into the woods." >> now it is an exhibition fit for the king. we're talking about elvis presley, better known as the king of rock 'n roll. the biggest european exhibition of elvis' clothes, personal
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items and more set to open on friday. >> more than 300 art facts from the presley family archives will be on display. everything from his jump suits. take a look at that consider we just saw there. even haze wallet and keys to grace land. >> do you ski? >> i do. i might appear in this video. this is called the most insane ski run, a run so steep through a impressive advice so narrow it won a professional skier award. >> it's probably going to make you dizzy. of course, all of that was caught on camera. here's jeanne moos with a guy who gives new meaning to the term extreme skiing. >> this is a man-eating crevice. >> i'm getting nervous.
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>> and this 31-year-old is about to descend. >> there's no exit plan, no escape. >> the plunge down this alaskan kref sis lasted about 16 seconds. the walls were only 16 feet apart. check out the helmet cam view, top speed, 65 to 70 miles an hour. >> you see you're going really fast and the walls are really close to you. >> but cody said he was very zen. >> it's almost as as if time slows down. >> cody's runs makes james bond's exploits on skis look almost wimpy. child child's play compared to this. >> so a crevice like that must have a terrifying name, right? >> yeah. it does have nicknames, but i would blush if i had to tell you what the nicknames were. >> it won him the best line of
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2014 award. his fellow skiers gushed. >> that was the sickest line i've ever seen! >> the prick i cannest part was at the end of the narrowest section. a slight turn. possibly the scariest turn of my life to not hit the wall in front of you. i just assumed they gave you a chunk of money to do that. >> that would be morally wrong to do that, i think. we do it because we love it. >> you think that's scary to watch? imagine cody's mother, the first time she saw it. >> she did cry, which i kind of felt bad about. >> cody didn't celebrate by partying. he contemplating a life goal while taking in an alaska blood moon. better a blood moon than a bloody wreck. >> that was the scariest thing
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