you get to the hospital. but as of right now, they're all alive and being treated. >> sergeant pete simpson with the portland, oregon, police department, thank you so much. that is it for "the lead." i'm jake tapper. i turn you over right now to wolf blitzer in "the situation room" who will have more on this breaking story. happening now, we're following the breaking news, school shooting, three people shot near a high school in portland, oregon. nearby schools are put on lockdown as police search for the suspect. new details coming in to "the situation room." jihadi breeding ground, details of the isis leader once an inmate at a u.s. prison camp in iraq where he was allowed to roam freely. did american forces inadvertently allow the creation of isis? mud slide disaster, walls of rock and dirt engulf homes as one of the most powerful storms in california in years barrels across the state. is more rain on the way? week of outrage, protests about excessive police force are

planned. will president obama join the thousands coming to washington? i'll ask his press secretary, josh earnest, who joins me live this hour. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." let's follow the breaking news right now, including the frightening situation in portland, oregon. a school shooting, three victims. prompted a lockdown as police look for the suspect or suspects. we're covering the breaking news much more this hour with our correspondents and our guests. let's begin with our justice department, pamela brown, who has the very latest on the breaking news on this shooting near the school in portland. pamela, what are you finding out? >> reporter: we know it is a very active scene there. the investigation is just beginning in this shooting situation at this portland, oregon, high school, rosemary anderson high school. earlier today, right outside of school campus, there was a shooting. three students were shot. we've learned that right after

that, they ran into the school and they were immediately transported to the hospital. what is so unnerving right now is that there's no indication from authorities there that the gunman or men have been found. so it is still active. there is a manhunt under way. we know atf agents, fbi on the scene assisting local authorities there. but it's very concerning in the wake of all these other school shootings that we've seen in recent years and around the two-year anniversary of the sandy hook shooting, you can imagine this is very concerning, causing a lot of panic there in portland this afternoon as parents go to pick up their children at the high school. but, again, want to emphasize the shooting happened right outside of the school campus, not on the actual school property like we've seen in other school shootings in recent past. >> hold on for a moment, pamela. our justice reporter, evan perez, is with us as well. evan, you're getting more information? >> that's right. we know that the fbi and the atf are on the scene.

they're there to assist the local authorities. we still don't know exactly what happened here. we don't know if it was related to a beef outside or school related. we know these three teenagers ran to the school after they were shot and they were picked up by the fire department there. that's one reason why initially they thought it was an active shooting incident. obviously the local cops know -- have got a lot of training on these issues. we know that the fbi and the atf typically go to the scene of these shootings because they have so much experience, sadly, with many of these. 160 of these incidents have happened between 2000 and 2013. typically they're over in minutes. and in this case we know that the suspect made his getaway. now they're looking for the suspect, wolf. >> hold on. joining us on the phone is sergeant pete simpson of the portland, oregon, police department. sergeant, give us the information.

what do we know right now about what happened? >> preliminarily, we have information that a shooter may have been with a group of people and left the area after the shooting occurred outside the school. the victims ran into the school to receive help. and officers responded. initially it was sounding like an active shooter. but when officers got here and started talking with witnesses, they went into the school immediately, learned that the shooting was outside, was not an active shooter in the school. and the shooter had left the area. right now, we've got investigative resources focusing on just the suspect information that we do have, which is limited. we have detectives here at the scene processing the crime scene. we have officers at the hospital with the victims and we're working with school staff and parents to make sure everyone gets reunited. >> what do we know about the suspect, the shooter, in this particular case? is there a description? >> very limited information at this point. the investigators have relayed

to me based on what they're being told, they believe the shooter may be a gang affiliate. it is not clear that the shooting was motivated by gang activity or if it was a personal beef. but they are working to shore that up with investigative resources. including the fbi and atf, which have responded here to assist us. they do work for closely with our gun task force and our gang unit. >> the shooter in this particular case remains at large presumably with a weapon and ammunition, right? >> he is at large presumably with his gun, unknown at this point what type of gun that was or what his resources are. but based on our best assessment, he is no longer in this area. we have made the scene safe and it's a multi-school complex. so we're working with all the schools to make sure students get home safely. >> did you have a chance to question the three students who

were hit, shot by this guy? >> well, all three were talking and conscious at the scene. i don't know to what extent they were able to provide any information. officers went with them to the hospital which is within a mile or two of the shooting scene. and they're all being treated there for gunshot wounds. so at this point, i don't know that they've been able to provide much information to the officers. >> what are their conditions? the three students now in the hospital? >> i don't have any updates other than they're all three being treated for gunshot wounds, all traumatic injuries. they were conscious and alert at the scene which is always a good sign. certainly with gunshot wounds, we get concerned about how that takes a turn at the hospital. but legacy emmanuel medical center is our main trauma hospital, one of the main trauma hospitals in portland. and it is very close by. >> evan perez, sergeant, our justice reporter, has a question for you? >> we're told by sources that the gang task force has been

brought into this investigation which suggests they believe perhaps this might be gang related. can you tell us anything about that? >> yeah. the gang enforcement team and the gang task force are here, they were some of the first responders to the area. their offices actually aren't far away. so they are working with detectives on this case. as i said, the preliminary information indicates the shooter and/or group of people he may have been with are gang affiliated. unclear whether that has something to do with the shooting or if this is a personal issue that's not gang affiliated. >> the school, the rosemary anderson high school, it serves what are described as at-risk students who have been unsuccessful in traditional high schools. tell us a little bit about the kids who are in this school. >> rosemary anderson is an alternative school in portland. i don't know a lot about it. but a lot of the kids that are there struggled in a more

traditional setting in public school and have gone to rosemary anderson. right next to it is another school called p.l.i.c. and in jefferson high school, which is a portland public school, is a block away. and all of it is sort of surrounded by portland community college. so there's a lot of kids and students in this area. >> i know the investigation's only just beginning. but is the initial suspicion that the three students who were shot and are now being treated at local hospitals, that those three students were specifically targeted or just happened to be there in the wrong place? >> at this point, we don't know that. that's what we're trying to get to the bottom of. our primary focus here was to make sure that everyone was safe, look for a shooter. and in one step, those two missions were accomplished and we shift to the investigation. >> there's obviously a lot of information only just beginning. but clearly if there's a shooter -- an active shooter at large right now, what are you doing about that? are people being told to stay indoors or be on the lookout --

what kind of advice are you giving people in portland? >> well, our information at this point, although it's limited, is that the shooter left the area. so we have investigative resources focusing just on that information alone. this was pretty much contained to a street outside the school. we have no additional reports of anything after that. and we do have a lot of resources dedicated to the entire investigation. >> so there's a major manhunt under way right now. but it's going to be getting dark pretty soon. that could complicate the search for this suspect, right? >> probably not for what we're doing right now. we can operate after dark if we need that. we're not going a block-to-block search, our research indicates that could not be productive at this point. but the weather here is clear and quite warm. won't be an issue after dark. we have our best folks on this

from all three precincts, detectives, gang task force, gun enforcement and our federal partners. >> do you have a good description of the shooter? >> i don't have that right now. working to get some more information from investigators that they can share publicly. we have a lot of information coming in. we need to clarify before we give out information that may not be correct. >> sergeant, i don't know if you can hold on with us. i want to quickly listen in, a friend of one of the victims is speaking to a reporter from our affiliate, koin. let's listen in for a moment. >> you have multiple children who are focused on getting an education and feeling safe. this is also a disruption to that. the concern is not just the shooting itself. the shooting is traumatic, traumatic to the residents, traumatic to the children, even the young adults who attend p.c.c. but i don't have any personal opinion other than the fact that

being a resident, it's heartbreaking. we will have to look on and continue to teach our youth in jeopardy of such an event. >> tell us about the student. how's he doing? what are you hearing -- >> what i've heard so far is that everyone is going to be okay. and that's physically. in these events, i'm not quite sure. i've never had to experience being shot myself. but i would venture to say it's going to be very emotionally traumatic in recovery as well as to live with it for the rest of their lives. that it could have been possibly their life that could have been taken. so i believe that's probably the most impactful thing at this time considering that everyone is all right. >> what does the community need to do? a lot of kids out here witnessed something horrible. what do we need to do to support them right now? >> what we're doing right now is

what we need to do, band together for factual information that is not too alarming -- or alarming enough to make people move, to get involved with educating their kids, educating even adults who have kids about how to avoid these certain types of activities that are not helpful to the positive furtherance of the community. i believe the community is responsible for the good and the bad. because it takes those that live in the community to do bad and it takes those who live in the community to do good. >> tell us about this kid. can you give us his name and what he's like? good student, goes to church? >> the young man that i know, his name is ray. and he is a young man who is, according to my -- he has

aspirations and dreams. he is with purpose. he is spiritually and mentally sound-minded. he's, like i said, my pastor is b.e. johnston. and under his tutelage, i'm sure he also feels that he has a safe haven to find refuge with this church and the people who are there, his family, basically. >> there you have a little description of what's going on from one of the victims -- sergeant pete simpson of the portland police department is still with us. sergeant, i don't know if you got any insight from what we

just heard from that friend of one of the victims. but if you want to weigh in, go ahead. >> well, i think what he hit on was very important, that the community here is [ inaudible ] -- all of our community partners are here. the portland police bureau has a very strong text connection to some community groups in this area and folks are here, we're working with them, sharing what information we do have, because this does and it will impact the community as a whole. this is a tight-knit neighborhood. a lot of folks who are upset right now. >> totally understandably as well. sergeant pete simpson of the portland, oregon, police department, thanks very much. we'll stay on top of this story. stay in close touch with you and your colleagues. once again, a shooting near a high school, the rosemary anderson high school in north portland, oregon. three students now in hospital, hopefully they're going to be okay. the suspect, though, armed, dangerous, clearly, on the loose, a massive manhunt under

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now to the u.s.-led war against isis. we're learning new information about how the u.s. may have actually played a surprising and accidental role in the terror group's formation inside iraq. cnn's brian todd is here with me in "the situation room." he's got details. what are you finding out? >> we knew that abbacker al baghdadi has been in a police camp in iraq. but there's information that america may have inadvertently created the isis base. he may be the most vicious terrorist leader in recent years, possibly more brutal than bin laden. tonight, a former inmate at a prison camp in iraq says al baghdadi, the man behind scores of isis beheadings, was once a trusted inmate by his american captor, allowed to roam freely around the camp. >> the americans seemed to see abu bakr as somebody who could keep the prison quiet.

there are 24 camps inside the camp. he was allowed access to all of them. >> reporter: the reporter interviewed a senior isis commander. he says he spent time at a camp with baghdadi, starting in 2004. he told the reporter baghdadi was a fixer at the camp who could settle disputes between competing factions. quote, he was respected very much by the u.s. army. abu bakr al baghdadi, he said, was seen by other detainees as clever, scheming, quote, using a policy of conquer and divide to get what he wanted. a u.s. intelligence official tells us baghdadi built street cred inside the camp. baghdadi and other jihadists at this american prison were not always segregated, essentially allowed to meet freely to plot and they had an ingenious way of communicating. >> he and others were able to write their contact details on the wide elastic of their

prison-issued boxer shorts. that was a way they networked. when they got out of prison, they had details. >> reporter: it was a management school for isis leaders, some say. quote, if there was no american prison in iraq, there would be no islamic state now. >> most of the senior leadership and probably a good portion of the mid-level management and foot soldiers came from buqqa. tens of thousands of people were held there over the years. when they got out, they had little to do and they had these established networks. it's they're they'd done their homework in the prison. >> reporter: as he left, according to a former camp commander, al baghdadi had a chilling parting shot. >> he looked over to us and he said, see you guys in new york. >> responding to the accounts that the camp was a breeding ground for isis where jihadists could strategize, a pentagon official told cnn, quote, these type of detentions are common

practice during armed conflict. analyst patrick skinner said at the camp, u.s. commanders tried to separate the most violent and hardcore inmates but it was packed with detainees. the army was short-staffed and no one at the time thought abu bakr al baghdadi would go on to do what he's doing now. a u.s. intelligence official tells us the camp wasn't a turning point for baghdadi. for disturbing information. >> the militant who did speak to "the guardian" newspaper suggested there was a chilling comparison between al baghdadi and other terrorists out there? >> there were two leaders of this group before baghdadi. there was al zarqawi. after he was killed. there was another who was described as ruthless. but the current leader of isis was, quote, the most bloodthirsty of them all. when comparing them to the other

guys, that says something. >> let's talk about all this and more. the former cia operations officer, glenn carl is joining us. glenn, what do you make of this? you had a top position in the intelligence agency for many years, oversaw terrorism analysis. this notion that a guy like abu bakr al baghdadi, roaming around freely at the camp before he was eventually released by u.s. military personnel is pretty stunning. >> we looked, of course, really hard at trying to develop a profile, who would become a terrorist, a jihadist. and i think we have a pretty good handle on the dynamic. the dynamic is it's less -- ideology is almost secondary. it's finding a charismatic individual who can act almost like a father figure, frequently like the captain of a soccer team, who could inspire others to say, think about this, you can't just play games. so in a prison context, which is quite constrained and yet

allowing social interaction, it doesn't surprise me that that would happen. i don't think that one could have foreseen at the time -- i don't hold the officers who are in charge of the camp -- the description you're calling, the resources were thin and the numbers of prisoners were huge, would pose daunting problems to be on top of things. >> and this notion that he was actually trusted inside this prison by the u.s. prison guards. what do you make of that? >> that doesn't surprise me because he's probably a charismatic figure who had authority within the people that were troublemakers or people we wish to watch here. so it sort of fits the chilling description we just heard that he'd be more bloodthirsty than zarqawi is hard to imagine since zarqawi was a murderous psychopath. i think he's substantially more intelligent than zarqawi, which would make him a lot more

dangerous, certainly. >> and those final words he said to that u.s. prison guard as he was leaving the camp, he says, i'll see you in new york. sounds pretty chilling knowing what happened on 9/11 in new york. >> yeah, well, that's a bit of bravado. that's a little bit of chest-beating. we need to do more than pay attention to this fellow now. but i'm more concerned by his organizational skills and his actions with the people in syria for now than about plotting against the u.s. homeland. >> a lot of u.s. analysts are. they worry about what he can do in syria and iraq not necessarily at least in the short term what he could do against the united states. glenn carle, thanks very much. coming up, after weeks of protests, thousands of demonstrators will be here on the streets of washington, d.c.

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idea how or when this movie ends, wolf. w45 what is going on, in the senate, you have the democratic leadership, the republican leadership and the white house wanting to get this very large $1.1 trillion bill passed so they can all go home. but you're having still problems with both wings of both parties. you have elizabeth warren on the left, you have ted cruz and others on the right. both trying to slow down this train because of their concerns, in some ways they have similar concerns. in other ways, they have different concerns. we've seen this dynamic over the past several years from republicans. but it is a relatively new thing for democrats. and right now, what harry reid, the senator majority leader, is trying to do is give elizabeth warren a little bit of space, hoping she comes around and allows them to vote. the assumption is when they take that vote, it will pass. but they're still not sure. >> do they need 51 or do they

need 60? >> reporter: probably 60. but they have to work that out. >> thanks very much. let's go to the white house. the press secretary, josh earnest, is standing by. how does it look from your perspective? will the president get what he wants, namely legislation, to avert a government shutdown despite what some of those close allies up on capitol hill, democrats, are trying to do? >> wolf, we feel confident this bill is going to pass with bipartisan support in the same way it passed the house. it play be a little close. but we certainly believe that democrats and republicans can get together around some core ideas. i think the most important one is we have to keep the government open. we shouldn't be shutting down the government. our economy over the last few months has shown some real resiliency. the last thing we need to is add headwinds to our economy. we need congress to pass a full-year budget for the government. the house did that last night. we're hopeful the senate will do

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opposed that bill when it tried to pass in the house. but this is a compromise proposal. the essence of a compromise is we're going to have to support a piece of legislation in which some republicans get some things they want and democrats get some things they want. that means we're not going to like every single measure in the bill. the bill would look a lot different if the president himself had written it. but we have to be accepting of legislation that includes some elements that we don't like. but as i was talking about earlier in terms of funding for ebola and isil, funding for education and the climate, republicans have targeted this bill as an opportunity to try to gut the president's ability to implement the affordable care act and to implement his executive actions on immigration reform. they weren't able to get any of those things in the bill. there's a lot in here for democrats to like. >> while i have you, will the president participate in what's called that justice for all march scheduled to take place here in washington tomorrow? >> no, wolf, the president doesn't have any events on his

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>> president kim jong-un. >> reporter: sony executives are talking for the first time since the hackers, suspected of being north korean, broke into the company's computer system and published hundreds of e-mails. including e-mails bashing some hollywood elites. pascal is seen here receiving a seemingly frosty reception from jolie. she said, i'm mostly disappointed in myself. i don't want to be defined by these e-mails after a 30-year career. one e-mail to producer scott rhoden, pascal insinuates that obama only like films with african-american actors like "django unchained."

she said, i'm embarrassed, deeply. today, the white house confirmed pascal has apologized. >> i think that a lot of people who read those e-mails, a lot of people, cringed a little bit when reading them. >> reporter: much more damaging than the e-mails, the hackers have also published the medical records of sony employees and spouses. kevin is still hacking but now he's doing it to help companies test security. >> it's like pablo escobar become a pharmacist. >> reporter: he said this was no snatch and grab job. >> they spent a lot of time doing what they call information reconnaissance to attack sony. so it's really not that difficult for hackers to break in, but what's interesting about sony is the amount of information they were able to

steal right from under their nose. >> reporter: the fbi is still investigating the extent of the damage in the hack. meantime, i'm told by a spokesperson that this has been a gross invasion of privacy to the employees there from entry level on up. >> pamela brown, thank you very much. let's get more now on this investigation. here in "the situation room," with me is john carlin, the assistant attorney general for national security. thank you very much for coming in. i assume north korea is the main suspicion. is that true? >> well, wolf, thank you for having me here tonight. this is an ongoing investigation and fast moving one, so i'm limited what i can say about the investigation itself. from the beginning, sony has been a great partner in the investigation. they reported this incident within hours. they worked as a partner with the fbi. as we seek day in and day out agents across the country and prosecutors looking to find who's responsible for this.

>> how close are you to finding the person or persons or the country or whoever is responsible? >> it's like putting a puzzle together. we have a lot of pieces of the puzzle now. and people are working day in and day out so that we can find and say who kid this act and find the bad actor. >> was in a problem that the sony computer system had that made them so vuler vulnerable? >> this is a sophisticated attack. as we head yesterday, this is an attack that over 90% of u.s. companies, they estimate, would fall prey to. >> in other words, if they can do this to sony, they can do this to 90% of american businesses, corporations, release their most sensitive information and punt it on the internet is >> it's this type of threat which is why the u.s. government, working with the private sector, needs to do more and do more faster to make sure

that those that do us harm out there, whether they're organized criminal groups or nation states, find it harder to penetrate our defenses. and two, know if they do, we're going to find out who did it and hold them responsible. >> without saying who's responsible, does it look like the work of a nation state, the work of criminals, does it look like an inside job, a disgruntled employee? are those all three areas you're looking at? >> that's right. you have to look at every possible scenario and motive who did this. we know it's a sophisticated attack and make sure when we make the decision who is responsible, we're 100% sure. >> if it's a nation state, whether north korea or any other state, that can do this to 90% of america's corporations, that's like cyber warfare. that could grind this count try to a halt. >> you've seen different countries, large and small,

being hacked and causing harm. but there are things we can do to make it better. >> like what? >> that we're working closely with information to share information about the bad activity they're seeing. that they're sharing information with us and we're sharing with them. number two, we need to make it clear that we can foimd who is responsible for this and when we do we'll hold them to account. you saw that this year, when for the first time, we brought criminal charges against five members against the people's liberation army in china. no matter who you are, whether you're a criminal group or if you're wearing the uniform of a nation state, we're going to find you. >> what do you do if it's north korea? >> we need to look at all the different tools in the government. without talking about this specifically, you've got to lack at the particular facts and be willing, whether it's diplomatic, intelligence, military or law enforcement, and sometimes it will be law enforcement or prosecution tool, you need to look across the range of what the u.s.

government is do and pick a tool that will hold them most accountable. >> it's pretty chilling when you think about it. john carlin, the assistant attorney general for the united states for national security. coming up, a weekend of major fprotests across the country is getting under way. i'll speak with all this with benjamin crump. he's standing by live. ♪ ♪ my baby drove up in a brand new cadillac. ♪ ♪ my baby drove up in a brand new cadillac. ♪ ♪ look here, daddy, i'm never coming back... ♪ discover the new spirit of cadillac and the best offers of the season. lease this 2015 standard collection ats for around $329 a month.

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grand jury be revealed? cnn exclusive. stand by with the mothers of michael brown, eric garner and other african-american men who have become symbols of the protest movement. torrential rains triggering flooding and landslides in southern california. we'll have the very latest, including evacuations and dramatic rescues. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >> this is cnn breaking news. >> we begin with breaking news tonight. new protests against police brutality in new york city, kicking off a weekend of major demonstrations in the united states. and new legal filings in the new york chokehold death case. we have major players involved with these new protests standing by, as we cover the stories breaking this hour. up first, our justice reporter

evan perez. evan, you're getting new information. what are you learning? >> reporter: we're learning that acourt in new york is going to have a hearing on whether or not to open up the deliberations that went on at the grand jury there in new york in the staten island grand jury that heard the eric garner case. we know that the grand jury heard from 50 witnesses, wolf. we know that they heard from 50 witnesses, including the officer and watched four videotapes from the death of eric garner. what we don't know is what exactly went on in those testimonies. so what we're hoping to hear is whether or not a judge will allow us to hear all the transcripts of the hearing. >> we might know fairly soon whether or not all that information, obviously very sensitive information, will be made available. it's unusual for a grand jury's information to be made public in new york, right? >> exactly.

after ferguson, the release of the grand jury information in that case, so the question becomes, in the case of new york, is whether this will relieve some of the pressure the prosecutors have been feeling whether or not this case was handled fairly. >> evan perez, thank you very much. tonight, we're watching -- we're waiting for these protests to see if they get under way. thousands of people are gathering here in the nation's capital for a rally tomorrow called the justice for all march, taking part in the rally, the mothers of four african-american men were symbols of the protest movement. michael brown, eric garner, trayvon martin and tamir rice. cnn's anderson cooper just sat down with the women for an exclusive interview. >> do you have confidence in the federal investigation that's going on? >> oh, yes, i have much more confidence in the federal investigation than i did in the

local prosecutor. >> you believe your son's local civil rights were violated? >> yes, they were. yes, they definitely were. if eric garner was a white man in suffolk county doing the same thing he was doing, even if he would have been caught selling cigarettes that day, they would have given him a summons and he wouldn't have lost his life that day. i believe that 100%. >> it's interesting, because you talk to, again, these polls you see white people don't view it that way by and large. >> because it's not happening to them. >> so they don't quite understand. they think it's a small group of african-americans that's complaining. oh, what are they complaining about now? >> you hear that from people? >> all the people. >> people say that all the time. what are they complaining about

now? what are they protesting about now. >> what do you say to that person? >> to that person, until it happens to them and their family, then they'll understand -- >> they don't get it. >> they don't understand what we're going through. they don't understand the life and they don't understand what we're fighting against. i don't even think the government quite gets it. >> until they've walked in your shoes on a daily basis. >> i think this is shedding light to what's going on. this is not something that's new. it's been happening. but it's just bringing light to what's been happening. it's bringing it to the forefront and that's why there's so much conversation. that's why there's so many rallies and protests. people are now realizing, if you look at those footage in new york, it's not just african-americans. >> it's everybody. >> it's not just about african-american rights, it's about human rights. >> this is an important note,

you can see the entire interview. you're going to want to tune in later tonight, "ac 360," 8:00 p.m. eastern. you'll hear and see the entire interview that anderson just conducted. joining us now, the president and ceo of the naacp cornell william-brooks. these are live pictures we're going to show our viewers coming up from times square as people are starting to protest. you've been seeing this over and over again. it's pretty emotional and powerful. you hear those moms speaking out, and you hear that, what goes through your mind? >> what goes through my mind is the anguish, the grief of parents who love their children, and they love their children the way mothers and fathers love their children across the country. the challenge is, this nation having an empathetic and just response to that group. in other words, when african-american young men are 21 times more likely to lose

their lives at the hands to the police than their white counterparts, that's not just a race problem, it's a human problem. we can't say to any mother or father that you could acquiesce to your child's life literally being snatched from you. >> you just heard evan perez, our justice reporter, report the news that an appellate court in new york is considering whether or not all the testimony that was before that grand jury in the staten island case involving the death of eric garner should be made public. you're an attorney. you understand the law. this would be pretty extraordinary if they were to do it. what do you think they should do? >> in the same way that sunlight kills bacteria, i would like to believe that light can kill injustice. transparency is no guaranty of a just result, but it's important for the public to know.

we need to understand this problem. one of the best ways to make justice is by measuring injustice. to the extent we can shed light on the problem, it does that. >> it's still extraordinary, even for the appellate judge to consider revealing all this information. >> but we are in extraordinary times. when we have one out of three young people being arrested by the age of 23, so many whose lives have been taken away by police, we need this kind of a response. >> i interviewed josh earnest, the white house press secretary. you've been urging the president to sign into law this legislation that would force local, state law enforcement to report all cases where someone in custody dies in the custody of police. i don't know if you're going to be happy or sad. do you want the president to sign this into law. they're considering. he refused to say the president would sign it. >> we think the president should sign it. we have at least 1,000 people

who die in the hands of the police, in custody, in any given year. it's important for us to understand why, how, under what circumstance. this law, this piece of legislation, is budget neutral. it simply sheds light. why should we be afraid to learn more about how policing is being done in this country? >> so your message to the president is, and you're speaking as the president and ceo of the naacp, your message is? >> sign the piece of legislation, move it forward. >> let's see if it does. i was surprised to hear josh earnest say he was considering it, but he didn't say he would do it. >> this legislation is consistent with what the president has called for. he's called for reform in policing. he's created a task force. his attorney general is traveling around the country, assessing the problem, engaging people. >> if the grand jury information

were made public, what else would you learn? what else do you think is in there? >> we might learn how well done the process was done. we might learn if there's any evidence that might shed light on how this grand jury reached the decision they reached. the important point being, we are in the midst of what appears to be a pandemic of police misconduct. we need facts. we need data. we need illumination. the people are in the streets because they want answers. >> so there's a big march coming here in washington tomorrow. also when i spoke to josh earne earnest, i asked him if the president of the united states would participate in this march tomorrow. he said the president has no such plans to do this. i assume you would like the president to show up. >> absolutely we would like the president to show up. the president has done a lot. more can be done. but i would simply say this. anything we can do to signal, to

sign, to demonstrate to the american public that we're taking this problem seriously is something that should be done. >> that picture we just showed of somebody lying down on the street, you see that, that's in staten island. that's the place where eric garner died from that chokehold. this is his daughter there lying down. it's a very emotional setting as people can understand. you see that, you appreciate what's going on. i want you to stand by, cornell, because we have a lot more to discuss. benjamin crump, the attorney for the family is walking in. we'll take a quick commercial break and continue our conversation with cornell and crump. he's here, as well. stay with us. lots to discuss. we'll be right back. ♪ limits are there to be shattered. ♪ barriers are meant to be broken. ♪ lines are drawn to be crossed. ♪

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we're back with the naacp president and ceo cornell william brooks. also joining us, benjamin crump, the lawyers for the families of michael brown and trayvon martin. we're going to talk about what's expected here in washington, d.c. tomorrow. but i want both of you first to listen to the former president of the united states, bill clinton, speaking rather powerfully about what's going on today. listen to this. >> the fundamental problem you have anywhere is when people think their lives and the lives of their children don't matter. that they're somehow disposable, just like a paper napkin at a lunch at a restaurant or something. it just doesn't matter.

we have to -- if we want our freedom to be in deed as well as word in america, we have to make people feel that everybody matters again. >> those are strong words, ben crump, from the former president of the united states. i know you totally agree with him. >> i do, wolf. as i told you many, many times, it's about due process, this notion that it has to be equal for everybody. not just the police officers but also the people in our communities. that's all people want, just equal justice. they understand that the system is imperfect. we want a chance at justice. when you don't even charge the police and we don't even get a trial by jury, then everybody says the system is just broken. it doesn't work for us. >> you just came from this extraordinary interview that anderson cooper had with the mothers of some of these young men. we just played a little bit here. the whole interview is going to air tonight on "ac 360" at 8:00 eastern. what was it like?

because you were there inside that room. >> it was extremely powerful, wolf, to hear those mothers all trying to comfort one another, speaking to the bigger issues. this could be your child. if we don't do something about this, it's going to keep happening again. tamir wright's mother, the mother of the 12-year-old kid in cleveland, ohio, who was killed. you had sybrina fulton, trayvon's mother, trying to comfort her. youed a eric garner's mother, trying to comfort her, all in the same time still dealing with their struggle for justice for their children and families. >> all these mothers trying to comfort each other. you can only imagine, cornell, when a mother loses a son, a 12-year-old kid in cleveland, who was playing with a gun, wasn't even a real gun, all of a sudden the kid winds up dead. >> that's exactly it. the question i have for every

mother i have in the country, think about the child you held in your arms and losing that child senselessly. then having the criminal justice system not respond to your pain. that's unconscionable. it's unconscionable. it is certainly a violation of our constitutional values. >> we reported at the top of the hour that an appellate judge, an appellate court in new york is considering allowing all the grand jury testimony in the eric garner case to be made public. i assume you would welcome that? >> absolutely. we want transparency, wolf. we've objected in times, i know attorney jonathan moore, a great lawyer with the garner family, objects as well to these secret grand jury proceedings. you're going to have a secret proceeding and exonerate the police officer and tear up the community. that's not fair. when you watch these mothers and the march tomorrow, they speak

to those issues how the system has broken their heart just as bad as losing their children, because they get no justice, they get no peace. >> tell us about this demonstration is going to be all about here in washington tomorrow. >> it is a rally that is being put on, a rally and march being put on by a coalition of groups, meeting at constitutional plaza tomorrow, marching to the capital, beginning at 10:30 with a rally around noon. the point being here is, note this, wolf, the president, the governor of missouri and new york, the mayor of new york, none of them have said these words. the grand jury has spoken, and you can have confidence in that decision. they can't, and they won't, because we can't have confidence. this rally is about saying to the country, we need to have confidence in our justice

system. the way we do that is by demanding accountability. >> you're going to be there? >> i'm going to be there with all my clients and the national bar association is joining. we're say thing is an opportunity to fix the system. to make people feel that america is a america for everybody, not just a few. >> i know you want the president of the united states to join tomorrow. i assume you would, as well. the white house is saying there's no plans for the president to come. you're hoping he reconsiders? >> absolutely. it's not expected. but it would be a welcome surprise. >> these parents are really wanting to know that people feel their pain and that their son's deaths won't be in vain, that we will change america for the better. >> all right. we'll see what happens tomorrow. cornell, thank you very much for joining us. benjamin, thanks for joining us, as well. benjamin crump is the attorney for the michael brown family.

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let's get back to the breaking news in the nypd chokehold death case. an appellate court in new york has ordered a staten island court judge to hold an open hearing on whether to unseal the

grand jury testimony. we're joined now by jeffrey toobin and st. louis alderman antonio french. jeff, tell us what this means, this appellate court decision. >> if you recall, wolf, the trial court in staten island already released a portion of the grand jury investigation, the number of witnesses, the kind of evidence that was presented. but nothing of any substance. this reopens that question and may provide a much more useful picture of what the grand jury considered, somewhat like what we learned in ferguson where everything came out. the question now is, will they actually release the grand jury testimony, because that's the key evidence. as well as the other video tapes, as well as the one we're showing here on the screen, because there were other videos that the grand jury did consider. and we haven't seen that. >> this whole decision by the appellate court is the result of

someone petitioning the court, is that right? >> that's right. the district attorney requested a limited disclosure, and the court limited that, the number of witnesses, the kind of evidence that was presented. it wasn't very illuminating. but this was an additional effort to get more evidence before the public. i think frankly it's going to be difficult because the grand jury secrecy law in new york, as i understand it, is very tight. but the judge has asked for a hearing and we'll see what the judge does when presented with this case. >> how significant, antonio, is it that the families now have all united, they're all here in washington. they'll be participating in this march tomorrow. how significant is that? >> i think it's very significant and shows that we have a common problem across america right now. these rallies you see, these actions you see, and what will happen tomorrow in washington

shows that we really have a national crisis. so many people have lost faith in the system and they think that the system does not value their lives equally. so i think it's powerful to have those families come together in our nation's capital. >> jeffrey, we learned that the death of the 12-year-old in cleveland, tamir rice, has been ruled a homicide. he was killed by cleveland police in a play ground after his air gun was mistaken for a real firearm. what happens now that it's been ruled a homicide? >> this case is now really parallel to the eric garner case in staten island. if you recall, the autopsy in the eric garner case also found that he died as a result of a homicide. and that case went to a grand jury. what's going to happen in cleveland is much the same thing. the grand jury will consider the case. the grand juries in both ferguson and staten island ultimately decided not to issue

any charges against the police officers involved. and the question now is whether the grand jury in cleveland will say that some charges need to be made against the police officer who filed the fatal shot or, again, no charges at all. >> we know there's a lot going on, antonio, right now. this big march scheduled for washington, d.c. tomorrow, the march called justice for all. yesterday, many minorities, congressional staffers staged a walkout, a demonstration on capitol hill. as you take a look at the big picture in this movement, what's next? what do you anticipate doing on to keep sort of this momentum going? >> i think you'll continue to see actions across the country until we see action on the part of our leaders. this is a national crisis that requires national leadership. people want to see real change. something that changes the culture, of the police departments across the country and changes the characteristics

of our judicial system and our criminal justice system that results in these trial by grand juries that people feel they're not given justice and treating citizens equally. >> as you know, a st. louis police officer was disciplined for wearing what's called a wilson badge on his right arm, initially following the michael brown death. officers created "i am darren wilson" badges to show solidarity with that police officer. now the ferguson officer has resigned. what is your reaction to what's going on now? >> i'm disappointed, especially in that st. louis city officer. what it highlights is a culture we need to change, this them versus us mentality, which we see on the streets too often. we definitely saw back in august with this military style response where it was them versus us. what we have to do is make the police and the community one again. that the police are part of our community, our communities

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tonight, there's new pressure on senator elizabeth warren to run for president in 2016, setting up a potential primary showdown with hillary clinton. warren is getting even more scrutiny for revolting against a budget bill, some comparing her to the republican rebel senator ted cruz. let's bring in brianna keilar. she's working this story for us. >> reporter: elizabeth warren very much right now charting her own course, i guess you could say, wolf. it's a more liberal one than hillary clinton's. in 2008, then senator obama ran to the left of clinton. now you have a vocal group in the democratic party looking for warren to do the same. an open letter from more than 300 former obama campaign staffers, urging massachusetts senator elizabeth warren to run for president. despite sustained efforts by the ready for warren super pac and

move on.org, she was adamant that she is not getting in the game. >> i'm not running for president. i am not running for president. i am not running for president. >> reporter: warren supporters certainly will, enamored of her persona as the best senator money can't buy. just this week, she led the charge of liberals in congress. >> who do you work for, wall street or the american people? >> reporter: as they revolted against a government funding bill because it includes a provision to undo a key part of wall street reform meant to stop another financial crisis, putting her at odds with the white house which supports the bill. >> does the president think that elizabeth warren is wrong about that? >> i think it would be fair for you to observe we might have a difference of opinion about this. >> reporter: warren bringing to mind another politician. >> do you like green eggs and ham? >> reporter: extremely popular

with a subset of voters and a thorn in his party establishment side. >> so you have this fuel for elizabeth warren that comes from the grassroots. you have this fuel for ted cruz that comes from the grassroots. they're not powered by the establishment, necessarily. >> reporter: one big difference between cruz and warren, she seems to be genuinely ruling out a white house run. but if hillary didn't run you might give it a shot if >> i'm not running for president. >> reporter: so there you go. but warren's constituency, liberal democrats, so important to the party and to president obama, the white house today stressing areas of agreement with warren after conceding that they were at odds yesterday. so that's pretty significant and it shows you just how important this niche in the democratic party is. >> stand by for a moment. i want to bring in our chief congressional correspondent dana bash and our chief political analyst gloria borger, as well. all right, guys, dana, this

spending bill, passed barely by one vote, passed the house of representatives yesterday. what's going to happen in the senate, because the deadline is monday? >> i literally just came here from capitol hill. what's going on in the senate is they believe on the democratic side that they have convinced elizabeth warren that she kind of has won the battle, if not the war. that she's made it clear that she's very much opposed to this and she's not going to hold up this bill much longer. the issue now is the other side of the spectrum, ted cruz and other republicans, they're still giving their republican leadership some heartburn over when this is going to get done. i think at this point the issue is when, not if. will it be this weekend, monday, tuesday? again, there will not be a government shutdown, they will do what they need to do to keep the government running. the question is whether this big bill, $1 trillion, is going to pass. >> she'll vote against it, but

she's not going to maneuver to force a delay. >> exactly. look, there are tactics that any senator can use. that's been the question. she's made her point. i asked her this question, she wouldn't answer whether or not she would use the power one senator has to delay this. >> gloria, is there a real split emerging in the democratic party, elizabeth warren democrats versus the hillary clinton democrats? >> well, yes. i think you saw that in the campaign trail in the midterm elections. elizabeth warren was most in demand, and because she represents the liberal base of the democratic party, hillary clinton has reached out to elizabeth warren, as you all know, but elizabeth warren hasn't exactly reached out to hillary clinton. she wouldn't answer my question whether hillary clinton is actually the right person to represent her wing of the party or whether she would run if hillary clinton declined to. so there's a lot of friction

there. >> what's interesting is that what we have seen this week is the dynamic that was played out over the past four years on the republican side happening on the democratic side. that the wing of the democratic party on the left is giving the leadership trouble. that person is elizabeth warren, and that is a direct result, i believe, of the election in november. >> as you know, all these obama staffers are now coming out for elizabeth warren. >> they are. but i think the democrats take elizabeth warren at he ever word and they genuinely believe she isn't going to run. i think some people who back hillary clinton would be very concerned if she were to run. but at the same time, clearly elizabeth warren wants something. she's lukewarm, kind of tepid when it comes to what do you think about hillary clinton, despite hillary clinton gushing about her. and it's very clear that she's flexing her muscles. the vocal points behind her are flexing their muscles. i think she's trying to push

whoever the nominee may be to the left. >> she's going to extract her pound of flesh, one way or another. whether it's from president obama during the rest of his presidency, or whether it's from hillary clinton. in the end, i think that she is considered somebody who is going to be reckoned with, one way or another. >> the problem hillary clinton has, even if elizabeth warren doesn't run, her presence, the fact that she can excite the base, that she can excite the young people in the democratic party in a way so far hillary clinton hasn't, doesn't look great for hillary clinton. >> she's the former senator from new york, hillary clinton, is through the clinton foundation, perhaps she's been too cozy with wall street and that's the opposite of elizabeth warren. >> mitt romney, there's a report that -- politico is saying a definite no has become maybe. i know you're doing a lot of reporting on this. >> i am. if the party were to go to mitt

romney and say, pretty please, we need to be saved, mitt romney would be happy to do that. i don't think that's likely to occur. i think that's probably the only way mitt romney would run. he's not interested in getting involved in all the primaries again, doing all of that. i'm not saying he's out there throwing rose pedals jeb bush's way. but i don't believe that he would do it unless really asked to do it. but it doesn't mean that he's not out there talking to funders and leaving the door open. it never hurts a political figure to leave the door open for a potential presidential run. >> talking to some republicans who are also thinking about running for president, they say they hear from mitt romney's former donors that he is still in touch with them and keeping the irons in the fire. if jeb bush runs, i don't see mitt romney running. i can't see it happening.

>> i spoke with one big republican donor about mitt romney, and they brought up jeb bush's name. >> of course. >> right now it looks more likely that jeb bush, the former florida governor, will run rather than mitt romney. >> absolutely. i think it's more likely that jeb bush is going to run than it did six months ago. he's out there talking to people. he hasn't asked directly for money to join his campaign, but people close to him have met with people who could join a campaign staff and say, if we were to run, would you ever consider that possibility? so this is all still speculative, because he hasn't made a decision. >> but he's doing the things he needs to do. >> guys, thank you very much. good discussion. just ahead, very different story we're following. dangerous rescues, southern california drenched by the worst storm to hit the area in years. we're going there live. first, though, this "impact your

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thousands of airline travelers face delays because of a mysterious problem in london's air traffic control system. officials say it wasn't caused by a power outage or a computer attack. our aviation correspondent is here in "the situation room" with the latest. >> at this point, wolf, if you are flying through london, chances are you will certainly be delayed and expect delays for hours to come. just over 100 flights in and out of heathrow, a major

international hub canceled and even more delays. and then there is the ripple effect because of a computer failure. a real life demonstration of how a downed computer system can cripple air travel for thousands and thousands of fliers. >> london, heathrow airport one of the busiest international airport, at a stand-still on friday, no flights going in or out. >> we got the back-up canceled so we had to get out. >> the air base closed after the computer system went down. many planes were diverted. >> the vulnerability exists because of the fact there should not be one singular point of failure for any air traffic control system. >> reporter: after about an hour, the problem at swanwick air traffic control center was fixed but the damage had been

done. the ripple effect felt at airports across the u.k. heathrow saying the flight disruptions could continue to saturday. delays also in paris. u.s. carriers also experiencing some delays. the question now, what caused the system failure? officials have ruled out a hack and aviation security analysts agree. >> we certainly have no record of anyone being hacked into with the air traffic control system in the united states or europe. i don't believe that a hack is what caused this problem. >> there are back-up systems but as we saw in chicago this september, when wires were cut and a fire ignited in an faa facility, disrupting thousands of flights for days, those redundancies may not be enough to prevent disrupted travel on a major scale. >> reporter: the majority of problems are with the international carriers, we're talking about british airways, ryan air and some of the other british short-haul carriers.

we can tell you there are some u.s. carriers experiencing some delays but again, majority of the problems with the international carriers. so if you are flying in this region, call ahead and check with your carrier to find out if you will be impacted. >> a worrisome development. let's hope they figure it out. thanks very much. other stories we're following, following the breaking news in california, battered by the most powerful storm to hit the state in years. paulver cammon is in ventura county, northwest of los angeles. what is the latest where you are? it looks awful, paul. >> reporter: i'm in camarillo springs. it is unfajable to think i'm walking through here at the top of a chimney. a rock slide of devastating proportions rolled through here and we have ten houses in this

area red tagged meaning they are unhin habitable. it happened because the hills were saturated and last night a lot of rain in a short time and you had an incident here where they put the k-rails, the concrete barriers and it blew them out and even where i'm standing, the k-rails are now buries. what was the key recipe in all of this. in the distant you can see the charred skeletons of trees. a fire burned through here a year and a half ago. you may recall talking to me about it, wolf and that fire loosened up of the hillside and striped it of vegetation and made this area vulnerable to a rock slide and last night after the fear and putting up k rails, we had the rock slide. people call it a mud slight. it is billions and billions and billions and many tons of rocks just like the one you see me standing on right now, wolf.

>> so that house, you are standing there on those rocks right at the roof. what is inside? is the house inside completely destroyed? is that what you are seeing? >> reporter: if you go on the other side, yes. many of the houses filled with rocks, water and mud and almost everyone evacuated. there was one couple with their care giver and they are 86 years old and you can see the house in the distance, they were pinned inside for a while. and the debris moved through there and furniture in the way and the fire department had to come on in and take them out. so yes, the houses filled with stuff up to the roof level. these are all of those red tagged homes that will not be habitable. the clean-up going to be so long, some in the area saying they'll have to get in here with bulldozers, dump trucks and some will have to be done by good old

muscle flexing and picking stuff out by hand. >> did they have any warning? >> reporter: they sure did. and that is why this ended up being a disaster that did not have fatalities or serious injuries. 125 homes in all evacuated. it was the rare instance when i told you of the couple that didn't evacuate that someone didn't get out of here, especially anybody along this side of the hill exposed to the rocks above. >> paulver cammon, amazing pictures. let's hope for the best out there. and to the cnn severe weather center. jennifer gray is tracking the weather. >> there is the risk of mudslides over the next couple of days because the ground is so saturated, especially in the areas worked hard by the wildfires. they will be able to dry out. it is dry for saturday and sunday. but the bad news is more rain is expected on monday, as far as the mudslides go, so that is why it is bad news.

but on the other hand it is great news because california needs the rain. this will put a small debit int the drought. over 5 inches in san marcos pass. pasadena almost 3 inches. santa barbara raw about 2 inches and los angeles 2. and you can see in san francisco, showers off shore and from west to eat and down the state, los angeles finally starting to clear out a little bit. the storm system is going to move east. however we still have some of the flood watches and flood advisories in effect and the winter storm watch in effect. the rainfall totals moving forward, minimal. we'll just see a little bit more rain as we go through the next couple of days but that is because the system is moving east and could actually cause severe weather across the south by the end of the weekend. here is the next front though, wolf. we'll see more rain as we go through the beginning part of the workweek but like i said, we need many more systems like this

to completely end the drought in california. >> jennifer, thanks very much. and i want to leave our viewers with these live pictures this hour from harvard. this is cambridge, massachusetts. there is a -- what is called a die-in, a protest going on in the aftermath of the grand jury decisions of ferguson, staten island. you see what is happening there in cambridge at harvard. they are blocking an intersection right there with these live pictures coming in from our affiliate wcvb. we are watching what is going on and getting ready for a big protest march, a demonstration here in the nation's capitol. tomorrow a lot of people are coming to washington, d.c. to protest. it is called justice for all. we'll have coverage of that right here on cnn throughout the day tomorrow. that is it for me. thanks very much for watching. remember you can always follow us on twitter, go ahead and tweet me at wolf blitzer and tweet the show at cnn sit room. and join us again monday right

here in "the situation room." you can watch us live or dvr the show so you don't miss a moment. thanks for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. outfront tonight, the breaking news. a manhunt in portland, oregon. police searching for a gunman who shot and wounded four people outside of a high school. and protests growing across the nation including a large march in boston at this hour, the night before massive demonstrations in washington, d.c. and cities across the united states all to protest police-involved deaths of young black men. and the latest cosby accuser, her story similar to other women's accounts of a night with the comedian of a drugged drink. what could the drug be? we tackle that question tonight. let's go "outfront."