he obtained exclusive details of how the incident transpired. >> kevin vehicickers exits down hall, which is very close. he goes right to the other side of the pillar. you have to imagine this. on one side of the pillar now is the shooter. on the other side of this pillar is now kevin vickers with his gun. >> thank you for spending part of your saturday with us. the next hour of newsroom begins right now with poppy harlow in new york. have a great weekend. you are in the cnn newsroom. i'm poppy harlow joining you live. across the country, people are combining their voices and raising them in hopes of triggering change in america.

this was the scene in boston earlier today, protesters clashing with police officers. some of them are being separated from the crowd. some of them are arrested. similar marches are going on in new york city, also in the nation's capital they are deciding that they are going to put on their own call to action. they are dedicating this to the families michael brown, eric garner and trayvon martin all of whom died after confrontations mostly with police officers. a short time ago, members of all of their families stood on stage at the same stage in washington. >> it's just so overwhelming to see all of you who have come to stand with us today. i mean, look at the masses. black, white, all races, all religions. this is just a great moment. this is a history making moment.

>> that's right. >> p and ywe need to stand liket all times. and you know, our sons, you know, they may not be here in body, but they are here with us in each and every one of you. you brought them here today. >> a sea of people. make a change. i don't know what we got to do. thank you for having my back. >> my son was 12 years old, just a baby. a baby. my baby, the youngest out of four. and he is here with me right now. and this is what he would want me to do. i want to thank the nation and the world for the support. because that's the only way i'm

standing up right now. that's the only way. i don't have to tell one of these mothers up here what they are going through, because they know. i don't have to tell not one single african-american about racial profiling, because you guys know. >> yeah. >> what i challenge you to do is talk to somebody that does not know. talk to somebody and make somebody else knowledgeable and make somebody else aware and educate somebody else about what you are going through. because as long as we talk to ourselves, we are going to say in our same circles. we got to step out of that circle. >> let me take you straight to nick who joins us in washington, d.c. what we just saw is we heard from the four mothers. we saw a protest gathering. also in boston, some of it getting physical twe protesters and police. is it peaceful in washington? >> reporter: the demonstrators

were hanging on every word of those that were speaking. they just wrapped up this so-called justice for all rally here in washington, d.c. where it's safe to say that thousands turned out. i'm joined by a demonstrator. what's your name? >> ali white. >> reporter: what brought you out here today? >> my family brought me out here today. i made it a better life for them. i'm here for my son. my son is caden and in the belly is cameron. i'm here for them. i want to make sure they get a fair shake in life. and not they don't have one bad bone in their body right now. they will never have a bad bone in their body. i'm going to make sure of it. i just want them to have a fair shake. they shouldn't have to walk another different bridge than everybody else has to walk. that's why i'm here. i'm here for my charity. for kids that lost loved ones in their life. >> reporter: a lot of people

share that. let's move through the crowd. some more of the demonstrators. >> black lives matter. >> reporter: you told me earlier that you had a police officer as a father. is that right? >> i do. >> reporter: what do you make of this? >> it's really important to me. as my dad being a cop, you know, it's kind of -- it's hard to see his -- it's easy to see his side. i was trying to explain, this is really important. i need to go out and support the cause and know that not all cops are bad. this is -- the course that they take is -- it's not okay. >> reporter: that's a message that has been repeated throughout the demonstrators. for some it's about race. there's a lot of people out here that feel justice is different for black people. others, they emphasize this is about excessy for sive force. this is a rally against bad police officers. they want to draw attention to that. >> thanks for reporting. interesting to hear the perspectives on the ground.

we appreciate it. let me take you to new york city. alexandra field is live. look at that. alex, what's the message that you are hearing? the action that people are asking for. >> reporter: what you are hearing -- i don't know if you can hear it right now is this group that's chanting, "don't shoot." and they have been walking up fifth avenue saying that. you can see we are walking at a crawl because there are so many people who have flooded out of washington square park. they will do the walk a couple miles. we will head north and go down to 1 police plaza to the headquarters here in new york city. obviously, this was designed. that's the place that they want to end up at symbolically, because this rally for a lot of these people is about the police and how they are policed in their communities. that's what people are talking

about. who employepolicemployeepolices? they want the officer fired in the chokehold death of eric garner on staten island. they are saying that they want to see independent prosecutors called in when there are cases of police misconduct. they are saying they want to have officers' named released within 48 hours after an office-involved shooting. these are a couple of items that they are enumerating. the concerns are actually extremely broad. people are talking about a number of different things. a sign over here that says not one more. another sign with a gentleman, black lives matter. this is something we have been seeing for days if not weeks here across the country, this rally call, this cry started as a hash tag. it has become an activist group with chapters across the country. right now they are saying no peace.

some people are coming together. they think they can affect change not just by capturing national attention but by having an opportunity like this to get different groups together. that's what we have seen here. a lot of young people coming together to try and talk and organize about how to move forward. how to affect change. how to affect reform within police departments across the country. >> alex, as you have been talking to us, we have been watching the shots of hundreds of people marching up what is usually a traffic-filled 5th avenue in new york city. seeing all peaceful voicing their feelings, their concerns and demanding action. earlier today the son of dr. martin luther king junior appeared here on cnn. we wanted to know if his father were alive how the father of the american civil rights movement would approach this currently nationwide. listen. >> he would also have to raise the issue not just of police brutality and misconduct but

brutality and misconduct within our own communities. i think he would raise that issue. because he always talked about loving each other, sharing, caring, lifting each other up. all of that i think must be discussed while the nation's attention is galvanized. >> dr. martin luther king's son there. the fatal shooting of tamir rice has been ruled a homicide. it came down from the medical examiner's office. the boy's death was not from natural causes or suicide. it does not assign blame here or make comment as to whether the killing constitutes a crime. the ruling comes almost a month after the officer mistook rice's toy gun for a real gun. that officer is now on paid leave. the investigation is ongoing. this is just one of several deaths that have sparked huge debates about racial injustice across this country. for the first time last month, the mothers of martin, brown, garner and rice all sat down together with our anderson

cooper to talk about just that. >> there's audio that has been released of tamir's sister screaming, they killed my baby brother. >> they killed my baby brother! >> she was in the police car looking at her brother just bleeding there. nobody is doing anything. >> as a mom, do you -- a video was released. is that something you watch as a mother? >> yes. i watched it. i had to watch it. i'm the one that released the video. they had to get permission from me to release the video. >> why did you want people to see that video? >> i think it's very important that the world knows what's going on with my son. he's only 12. >> hearing this is hard for you? >> yes. this is hard. a 12-year-old, not even a teenager. that's horrible. for a mother to see her child laying there dead in the street.

i know that was unbearable. >> i remember early on you and i met, he were talking about trayvon martin. one of the things you felt strongly about was that immediately authorities, police were trying to paint a picture of who he was and paint a negative picture of who he was. is that something you see happen to all these moms? >> i notice that they blame the victim. a lot of time that gives people an ease and it justifies why it was done. regardless of what these kids were doing or even what mr. garner was doing, it's minor. those are minor things that they were doing. it should not have cost them their lives. >> okay. he did sell loose cigarettes. but he wasn't selling them that day. he broke up a fight just minutes

before -- that's why the police was called, because someone was fighting and he was breaking it up. when the police came, they looked past the fight and went straight for him. so, you know, they were -- why would they do that? >> you are going to hear more of that interview that anderson cooper had with the mothers in the next hour. we monitor the marches across the city. coming up next, how would you react if you suddenly found yourself in a tornado like this one? >> what the [ bleep ]? god [ bleep ]. >> yeah. that happened in los angeles. we will bring you a report on that and much more video straight ahead. hello... i'm an idaho potato farmer

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look. >> and the national weather service says this was actually a weak tornado. the winds between 65 and 85 miles an hour, one small part of a huge storm that slammed the west coast. >> when you look at the amount of rock that came off the mountainside into this community, it's astounding. we are standing at the roof level of the homes. it's unbelievable that no one was hurt. two inches of rain in just three hours. pelting southern california. in the heart of the city, a swift water rescue on the los angeles river. >> they are going to pull her in. >> from the rising current, first responders pulled two people clinging to trees to safety. including this woman. other parts of the los angeles area left ravaged by recent wildfires also getting doused with more water than the baked, scarred land could handle.

crews began working to clean up the mud and debris in these homes and blocking streets, even as the rain was still falling. an area charred by wildfire in 2013, the downpour was far more punishing sending mud and tons of rocks cascading down on these homes. >> they have a lot of robck to move here. it's almost like a quarry. it's amazing to look at. >> the damage so intense they deemed ten homes uninhabitable. no reports of injuries. >> a lot of rock. >> this woman came here to check on her mother who was safe. but she's still heart broken for these residents. >> these are a lot of elderly people. this is their retirement community. this is where they put their money. >> to add insult to injury, more rain is expected at the beginning of the week, something drought-stricken california needs. but for the residents who live here, there is such a thing as too much of a good thing.

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i was like -- i was getting shot at two days ago and now we're shopping. what did i leave behind? i felt i wanted to do something more. >> was the idea just to reunite soldiers with animals they had met? >> you would come in off patrol and didn't matter how bad it had gone, this little dog, was wagging away. he was happy to see me. just totally crazy. >> bringing an animal back that they met while there, it helps with their transition coming home, too. >> wives have said my husband come back from afghanistan, there was a little bit of him he didn't bring back. i have looked at him. he's not responding. then he would take the dog out for a walk and when he comes back he's the old guy i used to know. >> do you know what you will do with the money? it was $25,000. now you are getting an additional $100,000. >> over 1,000 afghan kids die

from rabies. bitten by a stray dog. within 24 hours, you need to be vaccinated. we are trying to control the stray dog population. this $100,000 will go a long way helping afghan kids avoid being bitten by a rabid dog. >> congratulations. >> thank you so much. this is amazing. thank you cnn. >> thank you, pen farthing for your service. let me bring you live pictures of the marches as we watch them. both shots of new york city. it shows you 5th avenue, a huge busy traffic street here in new york city filled with protesters. on the other side of the screen, you see a ground shot. these are people of all ages, races, coming together on this chilly december day to make their voices heard, coming out weeks after the non-indictment of two white police officers in the deaths of two unarmed black men, eric garner and michael brown and the killing of a 12-year-old in cleveland with a

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hello and welcome. i'm joined by some good friends. sony pictures finding its dirty laundry all over the internet. among the secrets exposed by a computer hack, racist e-mail sent by the studio chief making fun of our president, president obama. this little nugget, jennifer

lawrence was paid less than all of her male co-stars, even though she's the biggest star. unbelievable. what does it all mean? is the sony leak exposing the dirty little secrets that none of us want to talk about at cocktail parties? starting with you, mel, when you heard about this, what did you think? >> i think you should pour that glass of water over me because i was so pissed off that i was having a fire attack hotter than the menopause flashes i get. if there's any woman that deserves to make as much as the men she's working with but make more, it's her. she's a three-time oscar nominee, a one-time oscar winner for the movie she put bradley cooper on the map for. she also is responsible for a $150 million open with "hunger games" and the fourth largest

open with "catching fire" before she signed the contract for the movie. it's -- it's discouraging. >> i love that you pointed out that she put bradley cooper on the map in hollywood. so we find out, if i'm getting this right, that in terms of royalties, profit coming off this film, bradley cooper and other guys are getting 9%. she was getting 7%. funny thing, i did the math, that's the 77% wage gap that we experience as women across the country on average. come on. >> it's really happening. it's really, really happening. >> it's no surprise to the four of us that there is a disparity in wages for men and women across the country. we are fired up about this. we were fired up about it beforehand. my cuss riosity is because hollywood has exposed, sometimes it takes ordinary americans celebrity appeal to engage in an issue. my hope is that jennifer lawyer

and some of the celebrities may become poster children or advocates for equal pay for equal work. this is an opportunity for celebrities to galvanize support. >> you would think we should heard from jennifer lawrence. she was represented. >> she has an agent. jennifer lawrence, fire your agent. he knew and he -- you are represented by a man who knew most likely what the other guys were getting paid. so that's super discouraging. this is a woman with a manager, with a publicist, with one of the biggest agents in hollywood. she is being represented in a way where the studio that's run by a woman all look -- who the hell is jerry renner? >> look, i -- but the bottom line is, what does that mean for the every day women? what does that mean for us, for folks that are working and

toiling all around the country in. >> absolutely screwed. if jennifer lawrence can get paid 77% less than her co-star -- her male co-stars when she's a big star with an army of representation looking over contracts and knowing the industry standard and all that, imagine ordinary women, average women when they go to negotiate for a raise or a salary or a job, by themselves, being subject to all this. it just makes you think if it can happen there, it can happen anywhere. >> my take away was what if she were a black woman. they were making racist jokes as well. that struck me. when you look at the folks making the movies, the movie industry is very responsible for the images that are all across our culture. if they themselves are making racist jokes and they are saying they are racially insensitive, i say, they are racist, what does that mean for people in the african-american community?

bottom line is, there's no diversity up there. if this is what they are thinking about us, wow. >> it gives fuel to the fire for people who are sick of hollywood being sank moanous to us. they are telling americans how to live their lives and what their values should be. behind closed doors, they are as bad or worse than everybody else. >> or worse. >> if it's happening in hollywood, it's easier to believe it's happening all over the world like in our police force. right? and at work. tweet us your thoughts and comments. we love reading them. maybe we will read some on air. coming up next, the ugly accusations against bill cosby. they won't go away. even die-hard cosby fans are starting to ask, is it time to boycott the man who was once america's favorite comedian? that's coming up after the break.

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as women, we just weren't going to just, you know, stand by and let him get away with what he thought he was going to get away with. >> of course, bill cosby has never been convicted of anything. but all of this has a lot of us asking, what is it time to stop watching the show that made bill cosby famous? this week our friend sally wrote this. i want to start with you on this one. what is it time for you to turn the cosby show off? >> it's time for me personally. i speak that way. i send my message that way. i love woody allen movies. i will never watch another woody allen movie and have not since the accusations came forward.

so i think we have to send a message that we will not tolerate this from people that we are supposed to be pumping up. bottom line, you can not separate the art from the artist. i think they are one in the same. if bill cosby is a serial rapist, i am not putting money into his pocket by continuing to watch the show. you speak with your pocket. >> mel, i wonder if you have a different voice. a lot of people feel like the art is the art and the artist is the artist. he contributes in a way to race relations in the 1980s. that shouldn't take away from what he is done. >> that's not why i think they should keep it on air. if they want to air it, we have a free market system. if people really feel entertained by watching a serial rapist pretend to be america's favorite dad, then they should be able to watch it. let the public decide. i don't think anybody is going to feel comfortable watching "the cosby show" knowing there has been a parade of women who

have come forward. >> i disagree. the bottom line is, i am getting people saying, there are no witnesses. we don't know this happened. how many women does it take to come forward to say this happened to me? i believe every single one of them. >> to be clear, look, it was undisputed that chris brown, the r & b star hit rihanna. after he did so, sales for his album were better. so i think -- i wrote this in the piece. one of the perverse realities is "the cosby show" we thought it portrayed a door next door family, maybe they are not. serial rapists are the guy next door. >> if you look at people that have been in the news, whether it's the guy that kidnapped and killed han eed hannah graham, h

described as the most wonderful guy. look at sandusky, running a -- everybody said that he lured them in by the personality we saw. >> maybe in the court of public opinion we let this play out in the marketplace. you will make your own decisions. there's also court. you were talking to a litigator. in massachusetts when you have the slate of awful sexual abuse within the catholic church, massachusetts changed its statute of limitations. >> there should be no statute of limitations. if you can bring a case and prove it beyond a reasonable doubt, there's no reason as far as i'm concerned, why it should limit a victim's ability to bring a case or complaint to court. >> i think that's true. i prosecuted sex crimes. the longer it takes to bring them forward certainly it's more difficult. but there is a trend, with child sex crimes, that the statute of limitations are either just abolished or they are made

longer. i think it should apply across the board. we know that a lot of women who suffer from sexual abuse do not come forward. sometimes it takes years for them to have the courage to come forward. we need to support those women by changing our law to support them. >> i agree. >> there's a uniform point of view from the panel. what do you think? tweet us your thoughts. and the torture report released this week by senator feinstein. ugly details about what american government did to detainees in captivity. stay with us. >> stripped naked, diapered, physically struck and put in various painful stress positions for long periods of time. i am totally blind. i lost my sight in afghanistan, but it doesn't hold me back. i go through periods where it's hard to sleep at night, and stay awake during the day. non-24 is a circadian rhythm disorder

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welcome back. we are talking about this week's release of the senator torture report. there were lots of people who were horrify by the report. there are folks in washington defending the use of torture. check this out. >> we're fortunate to have men and women who work hard at the cia serving on our behalf. these are patriots. >> i can't in my heart of hearts wish that we didn't have to do this. but we did have a duty. what are we supposed to do, kiss him on both cheeks? >> this report says it's not

successful. >> the report is full of crap. >> you are on cable. >> that's okay. >> i did not believe there was proof. they were harsh. they were brutal. but they did not, in my view, cross the legal line. >> many reasonable americans, if they were told about the methods in the context of 9/11, i think they would say many of those are reasonable under the circumstances and don't rise to the level of torture. >> i have concerns about the report because of the conclusion that in fact these techniques did not lead to any actionable intelligence. they testified under oath that in fact these techniques did provide actual intelligence and they were effective. >> the opinions are all over the map. it begs the question that everyone is debating around america. is the use of torture ever okay? sally? >> no. i mean, i have morally always thought it is wrong. i want to be clear. i don't think our country is great because of what we

believe. i think we're great because of how we act. we have to act in a good way. i've thought it was wrong. now we know it's useless. it didn't work. it didn't produce any actionable intelligence. john brennan said whether it does or doesn't is unknowable. it says it didn't work. it's wrong. >> it's interesting to me. i was in the bush administration. i worked for president bush. when these allegations were coming out, the chief deputies of the administration came out and said, we do not believe in torture, we do not support torture. was this actually torture? people are saying, well these are harsh interrogation tactics. as a matter of principal, i do not believe the united states as a matter of policy should support torture. the question i think for americans as we think this through is, was there actionable -- actually actionable intelligence that was derived from any of these techniques? to your point -- i know you want to respond to that.

the report said there were not. >> okay. bu but here is the thing. i nerve understood this. well, even if it said there was, oh, there is evidence. it did work. government said so. we know the cia misled congress all this time. what i have never understood is why conservatives are not more skeptical of our government's behavior abroad. you have outraged that the irs has guns but we are comfortable with the cia having -- >> i think there is a rift in the republican party and conservative movement. you see this on the lines of the dick cheney camp. we talk about the industrial complex that was eisenhower's quote. there is an intelligence community bureaucracy because of the -- it is unaccountable. >> you brought up the rift between the republican party. the thing i noticed is that

mccain was the only republican who supported the report and he is the only republican who has been tortured. there has been a huge uptick in public support for -- >> i got to tell you guys, i think we are playing hide the ball with the topic here. the topic is whether or not there was torture. you said something like some americans don't believe there was torture. how can a humus enema not be torture. was that torture or not? >> nobody is saying it wasn't torture. what we are actually talking about is whether or not there is specific instances where torture is okay because 52% of americans and that has been an increase since 2005 agree that it is. why is it increasing? why do you think the support is

increasing? >> i think it is increasing because americans are seeing youtube videos of american journalists being beheaded by really bad guys that run a size of territory greater than the state of indiana that have really good funding. americans think in -- the polling is from pugh research center and the ap and increase in support for torture techniques under certain circumstances whether clear intelligence that can be gained. americans are okay with it. that is why i think this intelligence report didn't come out until after the election i think this isn't a controversial political issue. >> it is -- that is so unamerican and i think what is so frustrating at least for me is that it seems to be stemming from fear. when is it okay to act from fear and anger and emotion?

>> we did that in 9/11 when we authorized much larger jurisdictions to be able to investigate and detain and to be able to interrogate. and the patriot act authorized it out of fear. >> that was wrong. let me also say this. i think it is about accountability. what was sickening to me was that i heard so many people saying of course no one is going to be held accountable for it. the bottom line is they do it, too. and they are worse. >> really? is that what we are as a country? >> you absolutely cannot put us, make a moral equivalence argument. we have a degree of moral clarity that we have transparency and can air our dirty laundry in public and that does make us better. do you see iran or china or russia admitting what they are doing? i'm not saying it is good to act like an animal.

moral clarity to be able to air your dirty laundry in public does make america better. >> we represent the country because there are some of us on one side basically saying we don't believe in the torture but i understand why there are 52% of americans saying if it leads to actionable intelligence. >> you can justify anything that way. >> this whole time we have been told by the cia in the case of getting bin laden. >> let's get all the documents. let's go transparency. >> i just don't think it makes us better that we are willing to admit to doing horrible things to people. also, i do not trust this, they are bad so they must have done something wrong so they deserve what they had coming which is the same we hear from the cia as we hear from police in the case like michael brown. thousands of americans are

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thanks for joining me. you are looking at our nation's capitol where we have big news. a deal has been reached in the senate to get the details let's go to washington. erin, this is a deal but not the deal we were hoping for, right? >> poppy, that's right. what we need to say here is that there will not be a government shutdown tonight at midnight. they passed this stop gap funding measure that will fund the government through wednesday so that they do have a little bit more time to pass that bigger $1.1 trillion bill that would fund the government through september 30. this is just a short-term deal but at least we avoid a government shutdown. >> we don't want to see that again. we know how that played out and how that impacted folks. are we going to see a $1.1 trillion deal to fund the government tonight, tomorrow, before wednesday? what is holding it up? what are major sticking points? >> poppy, we are almost certain

that at some point this $1.1 trillion bill will pass the senate. senators on both sides of the aisle are saying they expect that. what we are starting to hear now are ted barrett who is on capitol hill right now is reporting that senators are trying to reach some sort of deal where they can go through some procedural gymnastics and pass that bill tonight. senate rules are very complicated and we thought because of this objection that republican senator mike lee of utah raised last night that they wouldn't be able to vote for final passage until monday but there is some sort of deal that is still in the works. nothing is set in stone yet. and but it could be that president obama could sign that bill tonight overnight, sometime sunday morning. they at least will be voting by monday on final passage. we expect that president obama will sign that bill sometime early next week if not tonight. >> some of the big names getting a lot of attention right now there in washington certainly on

capitol hill, senator ted cruz what is the consensus about? what are people saying about them as the government tries to fund itself? >> the reason why mike lee objected last night is that he and ted cruz wanted harry reid to guarantee they could get a vote on an amendment that would strip funding from president obama's executive order on immigration. harry reid said no and that is why we have gone through this today. everyone knows essentially on capitol hill that final passage is going to happen eventually. this has been frustrating for a number of senators. we are hearing from a lot of republicans both senators and lots of people throughout washington, officials, republicans, that they are fed up with mike lee and ted cruz. they just think this is wrong and it's just antics and everyone knows it is going to pass anyway at the end of the day. not a lot of friends being made

by mike lee or ted cruz. >> when we were going through this fight earlier in the week in the house to get something passed you had a division within the democratic party between white house and some leaders in the democratic party very upset that real big bonuses for wall street got thrown into the final bill that passed. at some point there has to be some compromise. >> that is exactly what president obama was saying yesterday that he was saying if he wrote the bill it wouldn't look like it looks but he is acknowledging this new political reality that he and the democrats are going to have to bend to some of the demands made by the republicans. republicans, of course, next year will be in control of the senate as well as the house. we saw nancy pelosi and elizabeth warren extremely upset that in this bill that we expect to ultimately pass it rolls back regulations on wall street but raises dramatically the limits

that donors can give to political parties. basically what we are hearing from some of these liberal democrats is they say it is bad for the middle class. it is handouts for the wealthy. i think it is one important thing to talk about in the house bill. let me know if this is what the senate is considering. it largely does fund the government through the end of the fiscal year into the fall. what it doesn't fund through february the part of the government that would implement the president's executive order on immigration, right? >> what the senate is doing is considering the house version. so that is absolutely right that it would fund that immigration program only through february which sets up a major clash in february when capitol hill will be talking about this over immigration reform yet again. >> it's going to be a long night for you at the white house. we will be watching. let us know if they do get something else signed. now i want to take you to

protests we have been showing you all day happening in major cities across this country. those are marchers in washington. we have seen huge groups mirroring that here in new york city and in san francisco. people filling the streets of cities across this country demanding justice and change. not all of the protests and marches have been peaceful but for the majority they have. this is boston earlier today where some people, protesters confronted police and vice versa. there were confrontations there near the massachusetts state house. despite a few arrests police say the marches have been mostly peaceful. let's take you to new york. it is an amazing site in new york city if you look at the arial shot of all of the protesters. what are people saying?

>> reporter: as you mentioned it is amazing. if you look down sixth avenue we have been standing here for over an hour. we have been moving a little bit. for the most part we have been standing still and for a full hour there have been people going by nonstop. the amount of people coming here is in the thousands. i can't even give a specific number. some people said we want to make sure this is a movement and not a moment. they want to try to take all of this energy and they want change. they are saying there is injustice in the police departments and social injustice. they want to make sure this isn't just something that happens on a saturday and if nothing goes their way they don't try to effect a change. what we also have seen is people here in terms of older people, younger people, all different races. we see schools. we have seen churches and really have different people from all

over the place marching here in new york right now. >> stick with it. we will be coming to you later this evening as we continue to follow an extraordinary movement happening across this country. thank you. let me take you to washington where you have mothers standing together. mothers of those whose fate their sons triggered the protests. >> it's just so overwhelming to see all of you have come to stand with us today. i mean, look at the masses. black, white, all races, all religions. this is just a great moment. this is a history-making moment. and you know we need to stand like this at all times.

and our sons, they may not be here in body, but they are here with us in each and everyone of you. you brought them here today. >> they don't see this and make a change i don't know what we got to do. thank you for having my back. >> my son was 12 years old, just a baby, a baby. my baby, the youngest out of four. and he is here with me right now and this is what he would want me to do. i want to thank the nation and the world for the support because that's the only way i'm standing up right now. that's the only way. >> i don't have to tell one of these mothers up here what they

are going through because they know. i don't have to tell not one single african-american about racial profiling because you guys know. so what i challenge you to do is talk to somebody that does not know. talk to somebody and make somebody else knowledgeable and make somebody else aware and educate somebody else about what you are going through because long as we just talk to ourselves we are going to stay in our same circles. we got to step out of that circle. >> coming up next on the program a new york city councilman will join me from washington, d.c. he has been part of the marches. he heard the mothers speak in person today. we are going to ask him where does the movement go next. wouldn't it be great if hiring plumbers, carpenters shopping online is as easy as it gets. and even piano tuners were just as simple? thanks to angie's list, now it is. we've made hiring anyone from a handyman

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take a look at these images out of new york city today. really a site. massive protests of people walking up new york's fifth avenue. this is a street that would usually be jam packed with cars especially on a weekend like this. it is filled with protesters making their voices heard. this is being mirrored in washington, d.c., boston, san francisco, across the nation. let me bring in new york city councilman, part of the big demonstrations in washington, d.c. today. he joins me now from the nation's capitol. thank you for being with me, sir. i am hoping you can tell us. we have heard a lot from the protesters today. as someone who works in the city council what are the actions you are hearing that the people that are marching want? what specifically do they want

to change? >> thanks for having me. i think that is a very important question. i want to give a shout out to the justice league and people organizing in new york city. we have to make sure we get this conversation correct. i know there has been a lot of focus on the police department which we should. we have to have some reforms there. we have to have some accountability. we have to take away the people trying to hold them accountable now. we probably need a nationwide profiling ban. more importantly i think the focus needs to be expanded because what is happening is these same communities that are asking for police as we mentioned, they are also asking for better housing conditions. they are asking for more jobs. they are asking for their school system to be fixed. they are asking for streets to be clean. we can't view this in one institution. i believe it is generational

oppression on these communities for many, many years. so that is where we need to stem the conversation. i think that is where the anger is. people keep asking what do folks want. i think people want to have an honest conversation about race and impact on communities in america. >> you say some police departments need reform. we are seeing a big effort for that here in new york city and hopefully it is effective. it is one thing to organize marches like this for days and days and have people come together. following the occupy movement a lot of people ask what is the long term gain? what happens when the cameras aren't shining their light on this? what happens? how do you keep it going? >> remember in new york city i passed probably the most expansive police form bill last year. i was part of the occupy movement, as well. i said that back then that this won't answer the problem. we are putting band aides on the problem that is bigger.

when we fix the police department if we haven't fixed the other institutions we do what we keep doing which is sending police to do a job that many institutions have to do. if you don't fix the housing conditions, if you don't allow people to get a better education and the only resources we send are police and you have a country that has a history of treating these communities differently the first impact with the state is someone not fixing their problems but there to impose the state sanctioned oppression you are going to have a problem. that is why we have to say everybody's focus on what we have to do next with the police department. what are we going to do next with the conversation as a whole. people hear words like white privilege and believe we are calling someone a racist when we are not. there is no one person that is a racist. it is a recognition. when we talk about racial oppression and racial institutional, we are not making excuses for anyone's violent behavior. what we are doing is talking about a structure that we have

to address. if we don't address those problems and have the honest conversation we are going to be here again in a few years. >> a point made a few weeks now discussion about implicit bias and how it is different than racism. i wish we had more time. thank you for coming on the program. we appreciate it very much. coming up next after a quick break, ex-nfl star aaron hernandez received some good news from the judge about his murder trial. we will tell you what the jury will not be allowed to hear. that is next.

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clinging to trees in a swollen river. the rain caused mud and rock slides which engulfed a neighborhood, rocks up to the roof. that is a stunning sight. in oregon two people died from falling trees as a result of the storm. now to massachusetts where aaron hernandez's defense team scored major pre-trial victories. the judge ruled yesterday that prosecutors may not introduce texts from the man that hernandez is charged with murdering. he sent the texts to his sister shortly before his death saying he was with hernandez. the defense argued those messages did not suggest fear. that is important legally or suggest that lloyd was in danger. the judge ruled that prosecutors may not tell jurors about two other murders that hernandez has been charged with. let's bring in eric guster who joins me now. i was pretty surprised to see

this. my office covers this closely. this is big news. i wonder how big of a blow this is to the prosecution. >> the prosecution's case was to show that aaron hernandez committed this murder as well as some others and with the victim texting his sister saying i am with this guy, let me let you know who this guy is the night he was killed they felt that would provide identification to who hernandez was with. >> how do you read what the judge has done here? was the judge saying it is not fair? we do not know if it is jermaine to the incident. >> there is a code as far as evidence that says dying declaration. if a person says i am in fear of my life, aaron hernandez may kill me, this person may murder me, then that would be ad missable. however, with this text message it was kind of plain saying i'm with this guy.

i was with this guy. did you notice he was good looking. >> was it the right call by the judge? >> i believe so. judges have to be careful because the judge has to make sure that they leave nothing for interpretation for the criminal appeals courts. >> what about not allowing prosecution to say this man is also charged with the murder of a double homicide? two other people. what do you make of that move? it seems they don't want that to color the jury's thinking on this person. >> if they hear about these other murders then that would taint their thought process in deliberating on this one. the judges have to be careful to let that evidence in or exclude it because in the united states the judges want to make sure that the defendant gets a fair trial. that is the right call because they are not closely connected at all. >> you are saying both of these are the right call but the prosecution -- this has to be very, very bad for their argument. >> it is horrible for their

argument. >> do you think they have a strong case? >> no. not on this murder. they just have circumstantial, very weak circumstantial evidence tying aaron hernandez to it. they have to show his id and he was with mr. lloyd. they have to show that. i don't believe they have it based upon what they said and presented as far as the pretrial hearings that i have reviewed they simply don't have it. >> do you think we will hear from aaron hernandez? >> no. absolutely not. the prosecution has a burden of proof. if they don't have enough there is no reason to say anything. >> spoken like a true lawyer. >> thank you for joining us. big update there on the aaron hernandez case. our top story thousands of protesters march to protest what they see as racial injustice across the country. eeeeeeeeee financial noise

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