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to wall street. i don't think she will take on cleanse. shoulder, however, take on those issues that attack wall street. >> thanks very much. that's it for me. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. "outfront," breaking news. new york city on high alert after a gunman pledging allegiance to isis holds 17 people hostage for 16 hours. a lone wolf in a store in the city. could it happen in the u.s. plus, a pennsylvania gunman suspected of killing six people today, seriously wounding another. and bill cosby's wife camille breaking her silence tonight. let's go "outfront." >> good evening to all of you. we begin "outfront" with the breaking news. deadly siege.
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terror strikes at the heart of a major city and it could have been new york, los angeles or london on. this day it was sydney, australia. a 16-hour hostage siege, a lone gunman holding 17 people inside a chocolate shop. the tenls stand-off. they stormed in, killing the gunman and ended the siege but not before two of the hostages were killed. the chocolate shop is located in the krermt of the financial district stems from parliament and the american consulate. many people were there for their morning coffee, shoppers and pedestrians were there at the height of the shopping season. the australian prime minister spoke to his stunned countrymen. >> there is nothing more australian than dropping in at the local cafe for a morning coffee and it is tragic beyond words that people going about their everyday business should have been caught up in such a
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horrific incident. >> throughout the day and night, hostages could be seen with their hands pressed to the shop window. some did he is came. others used cell phones to make calls and post social media. developing late tonight, new york city is now on a higher state of alert. the deputy miller john miller said officers have been redeployed in response to the sydney siege. >> to increase police presence at the empire state building, the financial district, as you know, this target in sydney was in the heart of their financial district. >> anna is "outfront" tonight in sydney. what more do we know about the siege? >> reporter: well, firstly, a very sad and somber day here in sydney and right across australia as people are learning that two of the 17 hostages were
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killed during a siege that lasted almost 17 hours. a 34-year-old man and a 38-year-old mother of three. we're getting confirmation of that. the lone gunman, a man who is 50 years old, he was killed by commandos and police. he was acting alone and people really feeling a sense of anger after learning that he fled iran back in 1995. and the australian government then granted him political asylum. let's recap the events. heavily armed australian police and special forces stormed a sydney cafe firing their weapons and tossing in flash grenades. police shot and killed the lone gunman, ending a terrifying nearly 17-hour siege. >> they believed at that time if they didn't enter there would have been many more lives lost.
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>> reporter: two hostages were killed. four hostages and the policeman were hospitalized. the stand-off began just before 10:00 axe on monday in sydney. the gunman later identified, a self-starred muslim cleric, walked into the chocolate shop. some could be seen with their hands pressed to the window. others holding up a black flag with the arabic writing, there is no god but god and mohammed is the prophet of god. snipers surrounded the building. early monday afternoon the australian prime minister tony ant addressed. >> this is a very disturbing incident. i can understand the concerns and anxieties of the australian people at a time hike this. our thoughts and prayers must above all go to the individuals who are caught up in this.
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some running out and into the a. police officers, that enraged the gunman who could be seen screaming at the other hostages. throughout hostages used their cell foenl. one spoke to a report he. >> dealing with a lunatic. they're dealing with a person who is outrage claim. >> he forced them on read it on cram and post to youtube. >> to contact the brother via live web somehow and he will release five hostages. we don't understand why his demands haven't been met yet. >> reporter: then a second group ran out of the cafe. some with their hands in the air. after a few minutes of quiet, gun fire is heard coming from the shop. believed to come from the gunman. at that point, police and commandos barged in, guns blazing. it is the first time australia has really experienced a
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terror-related attack here on home soil and people are truly grieving. many have walked past with flowers. they are laying their breaths close by setting up a memorial. and the flag is at half-mast. there is a real feeling that australia has somehow lost its innocence today. >> thank you very much. certainly changed the way the world sees going about daily activities. tonight, australia's prime minister warning there are more lone wolves walking the streets of sydney. officials working to stop them. >> tragically there are people in our community ready to engage in politically motivated violence. these events show that we are toward deal with these people professionally and with the full force of law. >> "outfront," the mayor of
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sydney. it is good to have you with us. i know that this is a horrible and somber day for and you for sydney. i must ask you, anna was just reporting. we know the very tragic news that a 38-year-old woman, mother of three children is dead. a thrive-year-old man is dead. two of the hostages. do you know at this time whether they were killed by the gunman or whether they were killed during raid by programs, friendly fire? >> reporter: look, i think the 34-year-old man was killed by the gunman. i think that was the catalyst for the police going in. but all that is being investigated. and once that investigation, that critical investigation is taking place, all that information will be revealed by the police. >> what do you know at this time, mayor, about the gunman and his motives? >> reporter: look, what i want
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to stress is that the city of sydney is a very diverse, we have 200 nationalities living in our city. very harmonious. very inclusive in the city. and this is a one isolated event by a man with a violent back ground. so it is not linked to any other group. so we are treating it as a one isolated event that does not change who we are in sydney. welcoming inclusive community. >> all right. mayor, thank you very much. i very much appreciate your time this afternoon as i know it is in sydney now. now the man who says he shot and killed bin laden, robert o'neal. thank you for your time. you're obviously highly trained in hostage rescue. you've been through this many times. you've done a lot more than the bin laden raid. you obviously rescued captain films from pirates.
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we heard just now what the mayor. . it was the gunman shooting one hostage that prompted, that commandos to go in. it seems unclear how the 38-year-old mother of three died. when you looked at the video of the raid, was it done the way you would have done it? >> it is very difficult. first of all, thank you for having me. it is difficult to say highway i would have done it. that's one position looking at one group of guys. it appears pretty obvious that something happened and needed to be responded to very quickly. it looks like the police officers and the special forces responded correctly. it is hard to say what i would have done. i'm sure they did the right thing. when you think about the time that went by. it is in the center of the financial district of one of the major cities in this world. it was a 16-hour siege. how did they make the decision to go in?
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obviously, as we just learned, the mayor was saying, it was the catalyst. >> they did have the building surrounded. i'm assuming what they were trying to do was negotiate the hostage taker. there's a lot of options going on. i'm sure different methods of entry. different styles. i'm sure they were narrowing it down to the best possible way to rescue. i'm sure first on their meeninds to take them without gun fire. with the grenade being thrown, the controlled chaos that something happened them reacted and i'm sure it was according to what they wanted. >> we could see the bursting out of the windows in the shop. >> i want to play this again. this is your raid. the raid that got bin laden.
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you were tremendous center of it. what's the difference between you going tim stairs and shooting bin laden and what we're seeing sydney? >> the difference is once something hike that happens, the bad person has the ability to start shooting them which is what may have happened tonight. on the raid that we did in pakistan, we had time on our side, so to speak. we could be careful doing different things, going around different corners, entering different rooms. but in a hostage situation like this, once there is gun fire the most immediate thing is to save the innocent hostages and that does include getting the hostage team between the bullet. speed becomes of the essence. >> now we've seen this, hard for us to comprehend. this is a chocolate shop. people going shopping for
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christmas. a 38-year-old mother of three is dead today. it appears it was a lone wolf attack. could it happen here? >> there is no doubt could it happen here. anybody looking at social media. it seems like someone can just cling to something. it can happen here. we need to be vigilant. kit happen here and people need to be aware of it. and then report it if they see it. >> all right. thank you so much. i really appreciate having you on. >> thank you. next, police were well acquainted with today's hostage situation. was he a crazed loner or part of a wrauder plot? and >> terror striking a cafe in the
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a loan gunman held 17 hostages. two hostages and the gunman were killed in the raid. one of them was a 34-year-old man and one, a 38-year-old mother of three. it was a crisis that paralyzed the city for more than 16 hours. we are learning more about the gunman. he was a self-proclaimed muslim cleric with a well known history of violence. >> reporter: a self-styled cleric called sheikh, dubbed the
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fake sheikh. ted attention of the press, the authorities and social media audience even before he took 17 people hostage at gunpoint inside a sydney chocolate shop. >> he has been clearly identified as he paces his way back and forth in front of the four plate glass windows. >> reporter: before a deadly stand-off that lasted more than 16 hours, the iranian refugee living in australia, publicly protested the death of afghan civilians. >> he had a long history of violent crime. infatuation with extremism and mental instability. >> reporter: his personal website shows a picture of dead children. under it a claim that this is in evidence for the trifl of america and its allies, including australia. the result of their air strikes. he plead guilty, calling service members hitler's soldiers according to australian media. this pen is my gun and these
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words are my bullets. >> reporter: dressed in chains, he later demonstrated on a street corner claiming he was tortured in prison for his political letters. claims new south wales police have not commented on. monis has been out on bail charged with accessory to the murder of his ex-wife. last i am a he was arrested for sex crime against seven women reaching as far back as 2002. police said he had claimed to be a sexual healer. his website describes monis as the victim of a political vendetta and likens him to julian assange who has claimed sex crimes he's been accused of were politically driven. online the iranian national said he is not part of any organization or party. but he appears to embrace a radical sunni extremist theology in his postings. he claims allegiance to isis with whom iran has also waged war. authorities call him a lone wolf with no direct connection to any
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group. >> pretty incredible that they knew who he was and this still could have ham. what do you think about when monis left iran in why he was in australia to begin with? >> reporter: certainly authorities were familiar with him. what we're learning is report from iranian media which said he fled the country back in 1995 when he was being pursued for committing fraud. he then twoenl australia where he was given political asylum. what we don't know is why he targeted this chocolate shop or what motivated this attack. >> all right. thank you very much. joining me now, our counter terrorism analyst, patrick skinner, director of special projects and a form he cia case officer. i'm glad to have both of you to give some real perspective. as alex just reported, the gunman was well known to law enforcement. a few of the thing she mentioned. seven incidences of assault, a role in the murder of his
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ex-wife. online he pledged allegiance to isis. they knew him. wasn't just that he was pledging legionance to isis. he had done horrible things. why was not he under closer wax? >> look, there are thousands of people. forget that australia, thougs of people across america who are like this and we're seeing a change in the world of terrorism. evidenced by what we saw in sydney that is really troubling that tells you how concerning this is. let me tell you what i mean. 13 years ago we had an al qaeda organization that we didn't understand well but we could target. we knew where it was in the travel areas of pakistan. we could run human sources in. today we're not only dealing with lone wolves. thousands of them, for example, who are across america. i would say in american cities. i saw it every day at the fbi. think about ottawa, the hatchet attack in new york and think about sydney. we're dealing with lone lunatics. if you're trying to get me to predict as an analyst what we'll see tomorrow from terror suspects for a mentally deranged, i'm going to till
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that's not predictable. that's the problem. not only lone wolves but lone lunatics. >> i tend to downplay a lot of threats but the problem, phil is exactly right. it is completely unpredictable. it seems like isis is now the one banner that mentally disturbed people can rally behind. and there's no rhyme or reason. isis is basically outsourced their external operations and as part of their foot soldiers, they're usually mentally disturbed people. >> so monis made his demands by this taking hostages. i mention that had people were on their phones. a lot of people thought why would he let them have their felonies to? maybe that was a mistake and he planned it poorly. but he tried to use to it his advantage. he had them e-mail out saying, let me play one hostage he had get on the phone and make a call and make a claim. here's what the hostage did.
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>> the other brothers not to explode the other two bombs. >> so what do you make of that? he made that person call the police and say that. >> sure. this was not an accident. they regard that as the islamic extremists as perfectly legitimate way to talk to the world. remember the beheadings videos. they're saying i'm not responsible for my actions. the u.s. and others have entered places like iraq and syria. they're bombing our people. if you just stop, we can allow this not to happen. they're trying to engage in a dialogue that makes them appear to be the sane ones. you leave our area, you leave iraq, you give me a place in sydney, these people won't get hurt. their trying to make themselves into the rational parts pants in a dialogue. >> what about what we have seen thus far in the united states is a relative success in these attacks not happening? you see in it ottawa, in sydney, in belgium.
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and these went back to the united states, as isis sees it. war on the united states. but it hasn't happened in the united states. >> we've been very, very lucky. attacks have failed but they don't care about failure. old al qaeda wanted to do spectacular attacks. the new paradigm is they don't care. they want to paralyze a city with fear which they managed to do it today. there they outsourced and it this guy didn't even bring his own flag. no. he called and demanded a flag when you look at what you're hearing out of new york, they are increasing the threat level, the increase present at handle marks, financial districts, major centers. that will work? if someone is intent on doing this? >> let me be blunt. this tell me less about terrorism than american political culture and american security in 2014. when i was at the agency and then at the bureau, we have a lot of tol ranls in this country for gang crime.
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at love tolerance, new mexico, california, we do not have tol ranls for one insane person who claims he is affiliated with isis. john is my friend at the nypd. i would do exactly the same thing he did. i think this is more about the nypd having to respond. people have zero tolerance for this. >> they have zero. >> they know that. that six people were killed in pennsylvania today and the only reason people didn't freak out was because he didn't have a flag. all it takes is someone to hold up traffic tomorrow with a an isis banner and they've succeeded in doing what they want. >> thanks vex to both of you. you just mention that had story is a major breaking story. there were six people murdered today and others seriously wounded near philadelphia. the suspected gunman is on the loose tonight. they are desperately trying to search him down. and bill cosby's wife
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. bradley william stone is suspected of killing six people, seriously wounding another. he is on the loose in pennsylvania. he may be dress in the military fatigues. he is considered arm and dangerous. susan, do police have any idea where he might be? where they should be looking? >> reporter: no one knows where he is and he is considered dangerous. after all, suspected of killing six all related to him in some
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way. he spares his own children but authorities say, not others. a law enforcement source appears, says this appears to be a domestic dispute. it started in the middle of the night. montgomery don't near philadelphia. authorities allege bradley stone goes on a shooting spree. 3:30 in the morning, he kills three people. his ex-wife's sister, her husband, and their 14-year-old daughter. their 17-year-old son is seriously wounded. 4:45, he kills his former mother-in-law and her elderly mom. about a half-hour later, he allegedly kills his ex-wife. they filed for divorce in 2009. an onnot good custody battle for their two daughters. he takes his daughters from the murder scene. a neighbor sees him leave. the two girls are in their pajamas. >> i heard gunshots and i heard the children yelling, no, mommy, no, and he said let's go, we have to go. i heard him say let's go. we have to get in the car.
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and i asked him if everything was okay. i saw the kids and the kids' father exiting the house. and they didn't have any coats on or anything. they just had their pajamas on. and he just said, we have to go. he was like, she's hurt. he's hurt pretty bad. we have to leave. he just got in the car and sped off. >> reporter: he takes the girls to a neighbor. she lives in b 20 miles away. they are safe. but their dad, he's not been seen again. >> it is horrific to contemplate. and he just saved those two girls. what more do you know about him? what his back ground is? >> reporter: well, bradley william stone, 35 years old. an exmarine reservist, served about three years in iraq in 2008. he left the reserve in the 2011. he use as cane or a walker but he may not need them them found his car and his cell phone already so it is not clear how he's getting around or where he may be hiding. >> thank you very much.
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joining me now, our law enforcement analyst and former fbi assistant director tom fuentes. good to have you both with us. let me start with you. the suspect. served in the marines, a few months in iraq in 2008. came off active duty. he was a reservist. he has evaded police so far successfully. what does this say to you about his capability? >> he is obviously extremely dangerous. when you shoot and kill six people, that would indicate you're armed and dangerous. he's taken out practically all of his in-laws. and the only people that he is came this was his ex-wife's fiance. and apparently, he wasn't with her at the time when he usually is with her. so he may be in the process of hunting that individual down. for a vendetta. we don't know. we don't know if he is suicidal. we have questions. i would be questioning his mental health. i would like to know more about his military record. what happened that he was only in iraq three months?
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we don't normally send people over there and bring them right back. so it makes you wonder what was going on. what is his military record reflect? did it reflect mental illness? you shouldn't kill six people like this. you have mental problems. did he have them before he went in the military or is he suffering from post-traumatic shock? we don't know. >> we don't know. and we also know, he was known to walk with a cane or a walker. but then she said we don't know if he needs them which is an important caveat. this is a guy who killed six people and is on the run. he is obviously getting around. >> he is definitely getting around pretty good. it appears that he might be on foot. we don't know if he heeged another car. he is driving out of the area. or is he still in that area? have the police cordoned off the whole area and see if there is a possibility that he might be in that area or is he after other family members, or at other family members' houses. >> they are saying he is arm and
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dangerous. he's being hunt. >> i have a funny feeling this guy will kill himself. that's how we'll find his body. he knows he won't get away with it. the police will track him down soon. we'll probably know by morning. >> tom, how far do you think he could have gotten at this point? obviously the other key piece of information is that he doesn't have his cell phone which could have been something done on purpose. you can usually track peel on their cell phones. or it could have been accidental. we don't know if he had been planning this for a while. he could have bought another cell phone. you can buy to a store and buy a phone that can't be tracked. he could have made cash withdrawals so he doesn't need more money that way. he could have had another car that he uses. we don't know that. the other fear i would have, i would agree harry. the expectation is that he is suicidal and probably won't last the night. the hope is that he doesn't do a home invasion to seek shelter.
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it is cold outside or do a carjacking where he injures somebody else. and if and when the police do corner him, if he is going to do, that he has already done it and doesn't take police officers with him in the process. >> right. the hope right now is that he doesn't kill some civilian. he could kill somebody else. what are the challenges of finding someone like this? programs he's on foot. think about the last one of these. it took months. >> it is so hard. we don't have the cell phone. we can't track him or the vehicle. if he hijacked the car, we'll find out soon. somebody will make a police report that somebody is missing. if he is in the house, somebody's house, did he break into somebody's house and stay there overnight? we'll find out something like that within the next couple hours. i think basically here, he is going to come to the conclusion, this is what i did. there is no way i'm getting out of this. i don't think this guy will walk into a precinct and surrender. i think he will wind up killing
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himself. >> what do you make of the fact that he did not kill his own children? >> that's interesting. he kills all of his in-laws and he's been in a bitter divorce apparently. and battles with his ex-wife that he has just ended those battles today. sna as far as his own children, that's one hopeful sign that he was protecting them. and it may mean that he has enough family ties that maybe he'll go to a parent or a sibling or someone else that is a relative on his side of the family to seek help. to either get financial assistance or some other help. in a normal fugitive investigation, whether it is the police, the marshals, the fbi, any organization, that's kind of the standard fugitive 101. to track down every member of the family, friends, colleagues, neighbors, co-workers that a person might turn to for assistance. >> thanks very much. i appreciate your time.
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picture of katrina dawson. she is one of two hostages killed during 16-hour stand-off between a self-proclaimed cleric and police in sydney, australia. she was 38 years old. she was a lawyer and she was the mother of three children. in new york city, police are on higher alert, increasing police presence at major landmarks and across the city in direct spogs to the attacks in sydney. this is latest in a string of lone wolf terror attacks and official fear it could happen in the united states. deb feyerick is in new york city. and you're in one of the places police have significantly increased security after what happened in sydney. >> reporter: they deployed resources to potential threat areas. we're here at columbus circle. there was a heavier police presence a couple minutes ago because it is christmas time, there are so many additional people. the nmd wants to make sure they
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have all the bases covered. they have people at the financial district as well as even lindt shops in heavily traveled areas because they want to make sure if anything ham, it is a great deterrence to these lone wolf attacks. >> police are throwing something. >> reporter: the attack at a sydney cafe not far from australia's famed opera house is the latest carried out this year. either in the name of isis or the islamic extremism. what the attackers have in common is they're often self-radicalized men. the majority. recent converts, the majority of histories and sometime message problems. acting on their own, striking soft targets, easy to attack. a cafe, a museum, a national monument. how do you process what we are seeing? >> there's, diy.
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do it yourself. they take it upon they will have in lonl or new york or on thera or sydney to go out and commit an act of terrorism on their own. >> reporter: among the most dramatic recently, in october. a want a be syrian jihad driver strikes parliament and soldiers at a canadian war monument. in quebec, another man targets soldiers at a shopping center. in the u.s. in september, an oklahoma business is targeted when a recent islamic convert beheads a female co-worker. >> for a lot of them, a group like isis or al qaeda provides a heroic identity with a cause that's bigger than being a loser on their own. >> reporter: the shooting in belgium in may and beheading a british soldier by two converts were also identified as lone wolf attacks. what experts like mitch silver
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call spontaneous jihad. >> the lesson is even people who are low functioning, if they're inspired by a group like isis, they, too, can be deadly. >> reporter: in september, isis called on supporters to attack wherever, using whatever. in sydney, because of the strange shape of the gunman's black vest, authorities worried he may be using explosives. yet weapon have been relatively common place, a gun, a car, an axe. easy to get, easy to strike, and without meaningful intelligence, hard to prevent. that's why the nmd has mobilized one of its detectives from singapore to sydney to work with both federal and local police there to see who this person was. whether there may be any suggestion that he has any contacts within the united states and more importantly, to see how this made out so they can learn from the attack, from
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now a look at what's coming up. >> we have a two-hour special of 360 starting the top of the hour. much more on the braenging news out of sydney. we'll speak with the navy s.e.a.l. about the tactics used to end hostage stand-offs. what led to the final firefight. we'll put that to the hostage negotiator. and more on the gunman himself who pledged allegiance to isis. i'll speak about radicalization and how to fight it. now the director of the counter extremest group. plus, the former vice president cheney on the record, calling the senate's torture report full of crap. only the my conversation with someone who is in the room when interrogations were taking place. basically things about the same with the vice president's
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stance. the former fbi special agent jones me. all that and more at the top of the hour. breaking news now, the wife of bill cosby is coming to her husband's defense in a shocking new statement that was just released. according to the statement she questions the credibility of the more than 20 women who say they were drugged and or raped by her husband. here's part of what camille wrote. a different man has been portrayed in the media over the last two months. it is the portrait of a man i do not know. it is a portrait painted by individuals and organizations who many in the media have given a pass. there appears to be no vetting of my husband's accusers. it is published and then goes viral shelf compares it to the story of an alleged gang raep at the university of virginia, writing about the controversy of a rolling stone article. she says, the story was heart breaking but ultimately appeared to be untrue.
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many were clear to link that story to my husband until that story unwound. lisa bloom is here. >> to have you with me. i want to make sure, your when you hear what camille had to say, what do you hear? is there a part of you that says perhaps camille is right? >> well, of course journalists have a responsibility to vet stories and get all sides of the story. that was the criticism in the "rolling stone" case. how ironic that bill cosby refused to sit for an interview. how can journalists get both sides if he refuses to do that, but puts his wife out there. he hasn't spoken, but puts her out there to make a statement on his behalf. >> it's an interesting point you make. one question i have for you given you are representing janice dickinson, one of the
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accusers. one thing that stands out, the women's stories all are similar. they have a drug in their drink. some see it that this is a sign it is overwhelming, it clearly happened and they match up. others say once a person says it story, it's easy to mimic it. the fact they are all the same may not indicate it happened. how have you come to the conclusion it did? >> well, i don't think that the fact that the stories are similar means that they are necessarily true or that they are false. that's one factor to take into account. you have to sit with one of the accusers and really hear her story to determine whether you think she's credible. it's up to a court if a matter goes to court to make the ultimate conclusion as to who is telling the truth. from where i sit, one of the important things is a woman's testimony is evidence. so many women are told you don't have evidence. no one is going to represent
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you. a woman's testimony is evidence. that's what so many women didn't understand until now. >> at the end of her statement, camille asks a question. i will read it to you. none of us will ever want to be in a position of attacking a victim but the question should be asked, who is the victim? now, when you hear that, obviously, perhaps she could be referring to just the general situation, which is that bill cosby is famous and hasn't had a chance to respond to what is going on. do you think she truly believes in her husband? she's known him a long time. she's known him intimately. everybody that believes the accuser says she knew it was going on and knew it was happening. did she, perhaps, not? >> i don't think we could know the answer to that. if bill cosby committed half the crimes he did, he's a serious
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serial rapist. i think it's possible to hide things from your wife. i haven't heard camille is accused of knowing anything or wrong doing. bill cosby traveled a great deal. many stories happened when she wasn't about. i'm not about blaming women. camille may be a victim like many other women appear to have been. >> thank you very much. good to see you. >> thank you. next, ob and his transformation into a pin-up pup. ♪ ♪ ♪ ben! well, that was close!
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we have all done it, tossed the dog food off your plate. come on, the little guys really want it. one family took it too far. here is a lovable dog who had a heck of a lot to lose. >> reporter: when you go from this to this, you deserve your own calendar. >> here he is. i just pulled him out of bet. meet obie. actually you probably met mim back in 2012. that's when he was famously fat. it's never a good sign when you are introduced with the word whopping. >> a whopping 77 pounds.
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>> now, he's a calendar pin-up boy with a beach body. mr. august, mr. september. how did he get here from being so obese you could hear his belly drag? and to wear a vest to protect it, he looked like a beached walrus. loving, but elderly owners overfed him human food. a veterinary tech took custody, put him on a weight loss, dry food diet and the pounds melted off. about a pound a week for a year. norah remembers the milestones. >> the first time he ran. the first time he lifted his leg to pea. >> after losing 40 pounds, he had so much excess skin, they had to remove 2.5 pounds of tissue. now, he looks sleek, slim and svelt. he's maintained 23 pounds for a
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year. his 2015 calendar sounds like a hallmark card. once in awhile, a dog enters your life and changes everything. dog owners could use inspiration. over half. 52% of u.s. dogs are overweight or obese. obie isn't into exercise. he eats half a cup of regular, dry dog food twice a day. >> i remember the first time he could scratch his face with his back leg. he's a weaner dog with buns to be proud of. >> you can go back to bed, silly. >> he's so sweet. we all have moments like that. when you are not pregnant and you can see your feet. he can scratch his face with his back feet. incredible. thank you for joining us. tomorrow, the uva rape allegations. we learn abtd about the woman at the center of the allegations. we have found out, it is very, very different than jackie's.
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that's a special "outfront" investigation tomorrow. don't miss it on the ground from uva. set your dvr to watch us anytime. "ac 360" begins right now. good evening. thanks for joining us. the siege is over in sydney, australia. the questions about what led a man to take hostages and go out in a globally televised gun battle that left two people dead. tonight, we tackle the questions head on and look at the serious implications. moments ago, i spoke with sidy y sydney's mayor. >> our city is a socially diverse, inclusive city. we pride ourselves on that and we very strongly believe this terrible incident doesn't change who we are and the way we feel about our city. >> we'll have
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