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>> police in new york are expected to give an update any moment into the investigation of deaths of two officers. we will bring that to you live. a gunman walked up to the car and simply opened fire. >> alexander field is in new york. police say the suspect shot his exgirlfriend and michelle is covering if reaction from the president and his administration from hawaii. so let's start with alexandra who is at a growing memorial. you have been speaking to people gathering there. what are they telling you?
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>> just something that really stunned people. it is hard to understand, hard to wrap your head around. what we have heard are calls for people to really take this moment and time to honor the two fallen officers, killed in that brutal attack on the street corner. we heard from local city leaders, presidents who came out here who said this is is a time to stand with the families of these officers to pay respects. these presidents came out here and they sent a message to the public. they have been in touch with organizers and protesterers who have been protesting certain police tactics. they have asked these people to stay off the streets to allow the families of the fallen officers the respect that they deserve, to allow them to lay their loved ones to rest before any demonstrations continue before there is any more of this kind of talk about how this city is policed. we know there has been a clash between the mayor and the leader
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with the patrolments coming off that we are beginning to hear between the mayor's office. they do want to take the time to pay tribute to the victims. >> thank you very much for the update from there. the violence did come to a head in new york but it may have started several hours away in baltimore. what are police telling you there? >> police still don't know the motivation if i why brinsley shot nicole thompson, she is 29
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years old. the two are believed to have a romantic relationship sometime within the last year. she lived here at this apartment complex but brinsley has no other connections to baltimore. it is said he shot thompson arounder 6:00 a.m. he stole her phone, they say, before he fled. and then a friend of thompson's notified baltimore police about some threatening instagram posts made by brinsley. around 2:10 p.m., baltimore police called new york police to exercise caution. as you know, the assassination of the two officers as they are calling it happened shortly thereafter. >> what do we know any more about the warning that police sent them? we know they faxed that. did they make a call as well?
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they believe that brinsley used the same semi automatic. that's right now, he doesn't have any connections to the area and all of these arrests or the bulk of them were in georgia. some nine arrests since 2004 including battery, disorderly conduct and carrying a concealed weapon. so a lot of different charges for him. >> thank you, erin. president obama is on vacation in hawaii but with the situation in new york it's obvious that the president is never really on vacation. we all know that.
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>> you know when you think about how much the president and his administration jumped in and got involved where young black men were shot by police we knew they were going to respond to this and we knew they had to respond to this with equal commitment. the secretary of homeland security is in brooklyn. the president made a phone call to the new york city police commissioner, offering condolences and assistance. a strong statement from attorney general eric holder. calling it an unspeakable act of barbarism, saying in his statement, this cowardly attack underscores the dangers that are routinely faced by those who protect and serve their fellow citizens.
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saying two brave men won't be going home to their loved ones tonight and for that there is no justificatio justification. the officers who serve and protect our communities risk their own safety for ours every single day and they deserve our own respect and gratitude every single day. reject violence and turn towards healing through prayer, patience, and sympathy. >> all right. thank you very much for sharing those thoughts with us in honolulu. as we're waiting for this press conference to begin, let me just bring back in tom fuentes, who we have been talking to this afternoon, to talk a little bit more about how this all works is and these ambush killings. tom, we're waiting for this to
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start. i'm going ask you about this ex-girlfriend and what happened in baltimore. how critical is it that piece of the puzzle? >> this shows that he has socio-pathic tendcies and will commit violence if given the opportunity so that the instagrams that he's going to put two pigs in a blanket in new york is to be taken seriously. not just some idle chatter from a wannabe. he's violent. so the threats that were issued were to be taken serious they just were not received soon enough. >> she is expected to survive. what kinds of things would investigators want to know from her? >> they will want to know, you know, if possible if she knows
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what triggered it. >> like if he made any statements? >> well, we don't know if he showed up on her doorstep and she has no idea why. we don't know if they had spent the night together and got into a dispute with each other and then he shot her. you know, they would like to know more about the circumstances that led to him wanting to shoot her. and if he ever expressed to her a desire to shoot police or shoot others or possibly be engaged in a conspiracy with other people that may have the same intentions. that's the other issue in these cases. is he just acting as the so-called lone wolf or are there others that have made an agreement with each other by phone or social media that they should all fan out. >> you mentioned lone wolf. is that more dangerous than somebody who is attached to a group? >> if you have a group, usually
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somebody cannot keep a secret. usually in time to foil the plot but if you have somebody that is on his own, that's the best way to keep a secret. >> the pressure is underway. let's listen in and we will talk to you after it. >> about 25 hours into it. >> brooklyn north homicide and major -- currently involved in working in conjunction with the intelligence bureau. just quickly about ismaaiyl brinsley. he has prior arrests for crimes, theft, grand larceny and more. georgia arrests were from august
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2004 to june 2013. he was arrested four times in the state of ohio. that's from may of '09 to september of '09. robbery and misdemeanor theft. two year prison term in georgia from august 2011 to july 2013, and that's for criminal possession of a weapon. he does stints in local jails in fulton, dekalb counties and others for various crimes. if you remember the investigation, he stole his dwoif's phone. we have recovered that in and around brooklyn and barclay center. we're investigating that right now. we also have his private phone that were recovered in baltimore county.
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all are being investigated by the nypd computer crimes. most of his postings and rants are on the instagram account. what we're seeing from this right now is anger against the government. there is one where he is burning a flag and made some statements there is others with talks of anger at the police. he specifically mentioned michael brown and eric garner and other postings as well of self-dispair or anger over where his life is right now. right now we have no gang affiliation at all. he has no tattoos to suggest anything of it and no religious statements that we found on instagram at all. time line of yesterday's events. 5:30 he enters his girlfriend's apartment in maryland with a key he's not supposed to have. they have known each other for about a year and have since broken up. she is confronted by exgirlfriend and argument ensues. that exgirlfriend calls her
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mother on her phone and the mother hears part of the arm. the phone is then hung up and at about 5:50, calls come into 911 of shots fired -- a single shot fired. the exgirlfriend identifies brinsley as the shooter and he takeser if phone as well. you see the picture of the gentleman that we have, that we recovered from georgia. at about 6:05 in the morning, he calls the mother on her phone, the girlfriend's mother on the phone and says he shot her by accident and that he hopes she lives. baltimore county police department begins monitoring his movements and they have him tracked going northbound on i-95. he calls his exgirlfriend's mother several times and goes through and makes certain statements that we were able to find out where he was going. at about 1050 in the morning he
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arrives in new york city. apparently he took one of the bolt buss to the west side. we have no video to -- right now but we're seeking it right now or anybody who could see this male could help us out we would love to hear about it through the tips line. at 12:07 hours, discards the phone that he takes in the barclays center. we later retrieve that during a canvas over that location. that's one of the things that we're investigating. at about 1:30 in the afternoon, baltimore county pd reaches out and we start putting things in motion. they fax us a copy of events on this individual, and we start going through -- contemporaneous to that, is when he commits the homicide of the two officers. we are working closely still with baltimore county police
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department we started doing background on mr. brinsley. we spoke to both parents and two sisters as well as an exgirlfriend. we are told by family members that he has never expressed radicalization at all this is a muslim family. his mother goes on to state he had a very troubled childhood and was often violent. mother expressed fear and has not seen him in one month. brinsley attempted suicide in the past and attempted to hang himself a year ago. we are currently tracking his movements for the past week in new york and will continue to do that. he goes back and forth to new york. right now we don't have a residence for him. the residence listed in florida for him is -- i'm sorry. georgia. he has not been there in two years and is esstranged from her. he is estranged from both
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sisters. nine millimeters, purchased at a pawnshop in georgia in 1996, it is not recorded as stolen. apparently it wasn't him. he was 9 years old at the time but we have that person's identification. we're working with the atf to find him and find out where this could have fallen into his hands. right now presently, we have identified ten eyewitnesss and 35 earwitnesses to the suicide of mr. brinsley, we have ten eyewitnesss and one earwitness. we have recovered five videos at the scene. two pre, two post and one in the subway, none of which depict the double homicide. we have found on one of our videos two males who spoke with the perpetrator just prior to the event.
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high school in new jersey. he was going back and forth. >> is there any indication that he went to protest? >> that's still under review as i said earlier, we're looking back to see where he was in a week. >> four shots were fired at the officer. all the rounds are accounted for. four at the scene. we have shell casings right there. another shell casing on the subway platform and another shell casing down in baltimore where he shot his girlfriend. >> i'm sorry. say the last part again?
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>> he took the bolt bus from maryland up here. that's preliminary. we're trying to figure out which bus he took and we will go forward from there. getting on the n train. [ inaudible question ] >> we're still peeling this thing back and we're in october and november on that. as we go forward we will go back further and further. >> does he have -- [ inaudible ]. >> he does. >> again we're tracking that right now. i can't tell you. it will take a couple days to get that information. we did recover two cards from his person.
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his sister. that was in 2011. he has a child with a lady we spoke to already and he is estranged from her. [ inaudible question ] >> he has got brooklyn roots. he has family here. he has spent some time here. not a lot. all of his trouble seems to be in the south. >> of the phones you have recovered, do any of them have pictures or videos of the incident? >> we need warrants for that. we're doing that right now and in the process of acquiring that information. they are iphones so we expect
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pictures. >> it's a great question. time line is we're trying to get his movements and we can get most of his movements but we have a gap from about 12:07 to the time of occurrence which is 1447 military timement about two hours and 40 minutes that we haven't accounted for yet. that will be video collection and appeal to the public so i put that out to the public, if anybody has seep him we need to know that. >> after he shot the two officers he was pursued by other officers were they in the area or was this a 911 call that came in? >> we were able to identify two
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eyewitnesss. they then alerted as they were driving welcome back, alerted two officers from the pretingt that were involved in that detail. they alerted the seven officers who pursued him down to the subway is when he took his life. >> they shouted out? >> that type of thing. can't thank those two individuals enough. >> is there anybody else he told about his plans? >> no. i think you saw the instagram message. that went out about 12:20. so that's the first time we have seen that. >> there has been talk that he posted to the girlfriend's instagram account. >> we feel right now he was accessing that account through
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her phone. >> he said in 2001 that he had mental health issues. is it your sense that he committed this shooting one time and apologized for it. he grabbed on to something that he could build himself up with. [ inaudible question ] >> not so much the facebook. and he makes some anti-government statements.
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that's all i have right now. >> right now obviously he committed this act against the girlfriend. >> it was the exgirlfriend, kusht current girlfriend. >> he had a key to the apartment that he shouldn't have had. he let himself in. she challenged him. and then right now we're speaking to her now. she has been int baited. my detectives are speaking with her right now. she did tell responding officers that she identified brinsley and
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she had his phone. she didn't want anything to do with him. that caused the argument. >> she makes the statement that it's undiagnosed but apparently he had some issues as well. he may have been on meds later on in life but not early in life. >> looking back, the history with the police department, has there been any determination made by law enforcement or by officials that he has a mental history? >> no. we just got that from his family. i have no reports of mental history yet from our investigation. that doesn't mean it won't come. right now we queried atlanta, baltimore, and we have no information.
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>> i don't have that yet. that's all i have is what is coming from family members. >> i don't want to go into that. all of those are accounted for. he fired one round in baltimore, four at the officers and one to himself. >> 1446 hours and a minute later is homicide. but the facts is not sent up until 1447.
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>> we believe the time frame was all genuine and move iing allud to smart phones. right now we're working in the present. that's where we're going to go. that's why -- that's where we go but we're not there yet. anybody who thinks slow. we were thinking this thing out that time. >> was there an instagram post circulating a half an hour before this happened of the actual post that he had? that's what nobody was sent that to the officers? >> no. >> the family of the victim, the girlfriend -- i mean the exgirlfriend, discovered that just prior to the phone call and notified baltimore county.
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no one in the police department had that prior to the conversation. >> last one. >> i'm not going tell you what the conversations were but he called her several times. >> again that comes to the metro cards. we believe he was here earlier in the week. >> violence. >> we have got some stuff. >> all right you have been listening getting an update from
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robert -- four of them in ohio and 14 in georgia. we also have a former nypd detective and founder of alba investigations. let me start with you. we heard from the chief of detectives. he burns a flag in one instagram posting and he specifically mentioned michael brown. a lot of anger, too. he was saying to himself and where his life is right now. what does that sound like to you? >> mental ly the question, then
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is that obviously there is something in the back of his mind on a continuing basis about the police. about what the police did to michael brown or did to eric garner in his mind. >> they were talking about this iphone that they have of his which he took from the exgirlfriend as well and they need warrants for this phone in order to get in there. he's hoping to find some pictures. how does that work and how soon might they get information off of that phone. >> i'm sure they have that information where he was. this is still in the investigation process. the chief gave a lot of information about what is going on. those two hours are really missing. the phone information and evidence, i think that's going
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to probably take a couple of day before they go through all that stuff and get all the information out on that. >> it sounds like he is estranged with his mother and certainly two sisters. the mother apparently telling police that he was never radicalized. what are your thoughts on that? >> okay. sorry. >> tom, why don't you take that one? >> okay. i think what's interesting about that is, you know, he appears to have relationship problems no matter who it is. so you wonder now when he made all of these trips to new york in the recent weeks, where did he stay? who is he with? how did he afford to do it? how did he get there? there's a lot of questions about that that there must be other people in his life. >> and to you now, there was so talk there at the press conference, the suspect called his exgirlfriend's mother, had
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numerous conversations. he wouldn't say what was said exactly as he was making his way from baltimore to new york. how critical are those conversations and what do you make of that? somebody who had just shot her daughter and was calling to say it was an accident. >> i'm sure, she called police right after that. he must have been telling her that he's going to come up to new york or something and do damage. all of that information is really critical and will come out. question have all of this evidence but it's a little too late. if we have his picture and we know where he is, we could have stopped that shooting if that was the case. this is already premeditated. he's going to take his life and shoot two cops. he's going to take the easiest targets. even though we may have had all
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of that information, this incident may have happened anyway. so all of this information is really good information to have for further information for other people who threaten to come to new york and shoot officers and i'm sure there's threats right now of other people coming up in new york and shooting. >> let's talk about some of the protests that were happening following the choke hold case in brooklyn. they are looking to see if maybe he was a part of those protests. what would that tell them? >> they want to know who he was talking to. did he have another friend or group of friends with him? did he throw rocks or bottles or do anything during those protests? i think that would tell them a lot about how long this has been festering in his mind to attack
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police. >> and ten eyewitnesss, 35 earwitnesses. are those just as important as the eyewitnesss? >> definitely. the chief almost identified every shot from the time he left baltimore to the four shots in the car to the one for himself. you hear all the witnesses that were there. the people that heard the shots. all of that information and i'm sure the detectives now are canvassing the area to see if they can get more video. so there's a lot more investigation to be done on this case. >> it certainly sounds that way. thank you both so much for your expertise and for hanging with us on this one. >> thanks for having us. >> at the top of the next hour we are expecting a press conference from the family of one of the police officers killed yesterday in new york. we will have that live for you as soon as it happens. >> the other top story is out of north korea. the country is delivering a new
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the u.s. administration was deeply involved in making the movie and it warns saying our toughest counter action will be boldly taken against the whole u.s. mainland, the cesspool of terrorism. the white house says they will not be commenting on every statement from north korea. >> i thought that the usual writer has finally come back from vacation baa we're seeing the typical rhetoric from north korea. it is just like what we hear when north korea attacks and lash out and they are at their very best here. a couple of things to note. it came out a couple of hours ago late here in korea.
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it is for america. it came from the national defense commission. this is the agency that as far as we know runs the military. the pentagon, if you will, speaking directly for kim jong un. the other thing that i note is that they are trying to up the ante. north korea craves attention and they are saying everyone is concerned about cyber attacks? we're going to make it worse. >> jamie, nice to see you. how do you take the new threats? is it all bluster or is this the beginning of a more aggressive strategy? >> certainly it's part bluster. but given the fact that they have had a very successful attack on a u.s. and japanese corporation there's a greater pobltd that they can inflict real damage. and from the u.s. perspective we
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need to take that very seriously while not falling into a trap of it for at the name calling. >> to you think that they might end up in a full blown cyber war? >> we certainly have a lot more to lose than they have. >> why is that? >> we have learned through this that the united states and our corporations are really very vulnerable. we will continue but we need to be smart and strategic. we are very, very vulnerable. perhaps too fuller inable and need to ask ourselves what we can do to make sewer security systems and our infrastructure more secure. >> the white house is weighing options on how to respond to the sony hacking. take a listen to this. >> yeah. >> do you think this was an act of war by north korea? >> no.
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i think it was an act of cyber vandalism that was very costly and expensive. >> what does that mean? how does the u.s. respond proportionally? economic sanctions or more? >> we already have economic sanctions. there are two things we can and probably will do. one is to put north korea back on the terrorism list. they were taken off as part of a negotiation over nuclear issues. we have sanctions on a bank that north korea uses to launder money in and out of the country. we can put sanctions back on those. but then also, we need to keep focused on one of the biggest issues with north korea. first is nuclear. and north korea is moving very likely towards another nuclear
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test and very critically is the human rights situation. there is a resolution coming this week call the north careen government government for crimes against humanity. it's not just cyber. there are very big and serious issues. >> you mentioned the security council will take up the issue of human rights record. and korea is called on to be charged with crimes against humanity. doo you expect this might escalate the tensions? >> it certainly will. the united states with ja wan and others have been forcefully pushing forward this resolution china and north korea have had their differences of late.
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i don't see that happening. >> still ahead we saw rudy guilliani, a and what he said about the fatal shootings of the two nypd officers. we're exploring the world of street art. the subculture was once called vandalism but that is changing. meet an artist who is painting legally for the first time. >> i take everyday simple basic throw away things and reposition them and put them back out into the world to try to communicate with people something much deeper.
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the train line was the mate artery for the movement and art form that was being created. it's a really exciting place. >> being a young kid that had a need to express myself, graffiti was naturally captivating and consumed my entire life and took over my life from 12 years old on. >> it was called the graffiti blasters. words were routinely painted over and a law was passed to ban the sale of spray cans. >> i was always told no. i was always arrested and locked up or beat up by the police.
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hearing today from former new york mayor rudy guilliani who served as mayor from 1994 through 2001. his police department was known for decreasing the crime rate but was criticized for racial profiling blacks and latinos. >> it's an overreaction for people to say that the blood is on the mayor's hands. that is not true. i have lost police officers, other mayors have lost police officers. that's a very damaging thing to say exit shouldn't be said. nor do i think that the police officer should turn their back on them. my harlt goes out to the mayor.
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>> our city is in mourning. >> he should admit that some of his pollries are wrong. and lack of support came from not understanding policing. this is enormously emotional. it's a horrible act and there is no way to explain the grief and maybe just maybe with all of this anti-police rhetoric are creating a misimpression and they are engaging in propaganda.
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they all realized that most of our police officers are not just good people they are heroes. >> former new york city mayor speaking out to cnn today. a reminder we will take you live to the press conference with the family of one of the police officers killed in new york. we're trying to frame up the microphones there as we wait on this. it should be happening about 5:00 p.m. eastern time. earlier today we shared with we
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part. it was approved by president obama and will be built one block from the white house nearly 5 million men and women served during the war. a privately funded contest will be held. lindsey von is back. today's fall happened at a world cup event in france. the good news is that her knee is all right. >> we are waiting for this live press conference to begin just any moment now.
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the suspect has 19 prior arrests and certainly quite a bit of trouble with law enforcement. he had come to new york as far as the police tell us from baltimore. where they say that he shot an exgirlfriend. he managed to get a key. showed up at her apartment at 5:30 in the morning. it's unclear who is going speak at this presser. one of the officers killed, this is his family and possibly a spokesperson for them. he was 40 years old. he had two children. his 13-year-old son as we were reporting throughout the day made some very emotional comments on facebook. let's listen to what they are going to say about raphea rapheal romos. >> are you guys ready? why you starting trouble?
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that's because they won't let you go down? all right. you guys ready? we say thank you very much for coming out. you know? this is a tragic time in our community and state to turn around and have to deal with this kind of senseless violence. not only are we losing people in the community but now we're losing police officers to the same stupid rhetoric that deals with guns. we stand here unified with this family, with the ramos family. our hearts are pain stakingly crushed right now. we are all ready to silt at the table to make sure that the relationship between the police department and community is rectified in a sense that there is a mutual respect. now is the time for all of us to
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get to the table. everybody needs to be at the table. to go out there and do the job that needs to be done to keep us safe. i don't know who in the heck got the impression that this community is not behind their police department and then they think it enough to think that they can come in and take them out. we will not allow that to continue to happen. it's unacceptable. our police officers are the best in the city and this country and we will stand behind them 100% as we stand with the ramos family whose son made the
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ultimate sacrifice. i want to bring forth john rodriguez. >> thank you, tony. my name is juan rodriguez. to show our respects and condolences. i'm people with people from my community that i am paying. but we are here to support the police department and family as well. we don't want the city of new york to think that everyone is against the police department. everyone here with me tonight is with nypd. the senls killing that happened with the officer happened -- not just happened to be a police officer. he's a dear friend of mineses the for over 20 years. his family is here. this is the house he was born and raised at. but basically what we want to get the message to his dad, we're here as one community and
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here to support our officers and work with them on all different levels. mr. mayor, you need to have a sit down and you need to get everything corrected from the mayor's office down this is wrong. we need you to work with the community and the police department. we don't need you to just go to one side. the police department needs you as well. this is what happens. all of this craziness that is going on. what if that was your son sitting in that patrol car? then what? why you don't come out and say that? i will let a member of the family speak for a brief minute for that. >>ef
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