Skip to main content

tv   New Day Saturday  CNN  December 27, 2014 3:00am-7:01am PST

3:00 am
♪ dad, i'll miss you. >> oh, a tearful message from the son of fallen new york city police officer raphael ramos. >> tense of thousands will gather to say final good-byes, including mayor de blasio and
3:01 am
vice president joe biden. and two more people arrested with alleged threats made towards new york city police officers after accessing hundreds of online postings and calls to 911. but still this morning, police are on high alert. ♪ hello, everyone, i'm suzanne malveaux in nor christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. 6:00 here on the east coast. and now just one week after two police officers were ambushed and gunned down in the streets of new york, 25,000 police officers, maybe as many as 30 had,000, from around the country, will say good-bye to one of their own. >> and later this morning, the funeral for fallen officer raphael ramos will take place at the christ tabernacle church in queens. vice president joe biden, mayor de blasio and police commissioner bratton will be among those there. >> thousands lined the streets to pay respects.
3:02 am
fellow office by his side to escort the cassetket to the chu where he once worshipped. >> yesterday, ramos' son and sister reflected on the man they say was doing god's work. they're farewell broadcast on a screen for those who filled the streets to see. >> he was my rock. he was a beacon of wisdom. he was my absolute best friend. dad, i'll miss you very much -- i'll miss you. my dad would have been there for everyone else and to see home people here for him is a testament to how he is as a person. it's been so helpful in this difficult time. >> we're going to keep this short and sweet just like my brother. i know you always worried about
3:03 am
me, you know how i rolled because we were two peas in a pod. we just hoped for the best. you were one of the most beautiful people i know and having you as my brother -- >> the funeral for the second officer killed, wenjian liu has not yet been scheduled. >> it is a sad day. we're covering every angle of the story bringing you throughout the morning as we get closer to the funeral. joined by cnn law enforcement analyst tom fuentes. tom, you and i have been discussing this throughout the day. 25,000 officers, maybe 30,000 police officers from around the country are expected to be there this morning attending ramos' rui funeral. you as a former beat officer, what does this mean to so many people coming out this morning?
3:04 am
>> i think it means just an extreme hurt, suzanne. you know how it affects the colleagues that the person worked with. over the last 42 years, i have been to so many of these. and this one, you know, really may be as gut-wrenching as any has been because of the circumstances and because of the nature they were deliberately assassinated. and it's just made it so much worse in a time of so much tension and anti-police sentiment in the country. >> and, tom, why do you suppose we are going to see those numbers, why do you suppose this has attracted so many people to this moment? >> because i think many people want an opportunity to come out and say wait a minute, you know, we police are human, too. we have, you know, feelings. we're not all brutal. we're not all roaming the streets looking to find black people to shoot and kill or choke to death. or something along those lines. and i think it's an opportunity to show the kind of support and humanity that law enforcement
3:05 am
officers do have. >> let's talk a little bit about the frustration between the mayor. mayor de blasio, and the police force there, the nypd. and we have seen before a little show of defiance when they turned their backs to the mayor when he was in the hospital. do you think that we're going to see any kind of display like that this morning? or do you think there's going to be something that's going to be different? >> i think what's different is that the ramos family has asked for the mayor to attend. i think if nothing else, out of respect to that family, the police officers will honor that, show respect to the mayor at least as long as today. but i don't expect there to be, you know, any issue like there was the day of the shooting when the mayor showed up at the hospital. >> and, tom, we know that the mayor is also expected not to just attend the funeral but to give the eulogy. what do you think the officers will feel as these delivering
3:06 am
those words? >> i think it's very interesting what has happened with the mayor this week. and that has been that he was so supportive of the protesters, and many people in new york criticized allowing the protesters to shut down streets and bridges and businesses and said that it had gone too far. and that some of the statements that he made were taken as being negative to the police. and after the murderers last saturday when he asked that the protesters hold off until after the funerals and then it didn't happen. and then you see the continuing threats against the police, and he has spoken out about that, that if you become aware of a threat. contact the police, we can't have that. and i think it's put him in a very strange situation that the protesters didn't honor what he said. and they went out immediately the first night ever since. and yet, you know, here he's trying to say the right things about the police. so, he's in -- kind of in the middle where he almost has no
3:07 am
support on either end at this point. >> all right. tom fuentes, thank you so much for being here this morning. of course, we'll check in with you back as the service begins. thank you, tom. >> thank you, suzanne. new york police say they have arrested two more people for making threats against officers bringing the total to nine since these two officers were killed one week ago. the latest arrests announced friday including two men men walking in and threatening officers. police arrested another man wearing verbal threats to an officer wearing his uniform. let's talk about these threats, legal analyst joey jackson. joey, good morning to you. the description of the first one. i don't want to make light of the threat, obviously but one of the suspects he made a gun gesture at his hand and pointed at an officer and he was arrested. what is the threshold for these arrests? >> good morning, victor. it's good to be with you.
3:08 am
it's a sad day, obviously in new york. it's a sad day around the country. i understand there's a sentiment around the country. protests want to account. we certainly need police that are accountable. at the same time, you can't be threatening police officers and certainly taking their lives. when you look at the legal issues, visibility per. on the one hand if you're going to be charged with a misdemeanor, that's aggravated harassment. you have to attend to threaten and that only needs to have broad harm. punishable up to a year in jail. and them up to seven years in jail if you're making terrorist threats. what are those? threats using terror and intimidation for an imminent belief to take someone's life. so there's a fine line between expression and first amendment
3:09 am
rights to freedom and threatening somebody. and supreme court, victor, they're looking at a case out of pennsylvania, someone threatened their life. the issue becomes we measure the intention by the person making the threat or the person perceiving it. clearly, the supreme court will address that issue. as a threshold matter in the intent to threaten somebody that causes annoyance and harm. >> depending how the supreme court decides in that case about social media and regarding threats, could we see some of these charges dropped? >> we certainly could, victor, depending upon how that goes. now, again, whether or not the supreme court decides to come down on the issue of, look, i, of course, have a right. we all have a right to artistic expression, to first amendment rights. but should it be evaluated by what i intended to do, and cow victor, ever get in my mind.
3:10 am
or should it be evaluated as the supreme court seemed to tip its hand when hearing oral arguments regarding how it's perceived. because we can always use the excuse, i didn't mean that, a threat is a threat. we may not be able to define it, but we know it when we see it, just like a threat. we know it when we hear it. clearly based upon threats made to the police department previously, victor, carried out most unfortunately, resulting in the funeral, you need to take action on the threats. there needs to be protests, peaceful, respectful of the dignity in doing their job. >> joey jackson, thank you so much. we'll speak with you throughout the morning as we continue to understand the legal issues here. of course, we'll have continuing coverage of obviously, raphael ramos' funeral. as many as 30,000 officers, also many mourners across the
3:11 am
community, in the country, expected to line the streets of queens leading the way to christ tabernacle church where officer ramos will be. and playstation and xbox networks still trying to recover from millions of networkers. and the hacks that made them go dark for hours. and north korea is fuming over the release of "the interview." they pointed the finger as the one person as the culprit behind it being in theaters. my name's louis,
3:12 am
and i quit smoking with chantix. i had tried to do it in the past. i hadn't been successful. quitting smoking this time was different because i got a prescription for chantix. along with support, chantix (varenicline) is proven to help people quit smoking. the fact that it reduced the urge to smoke helped me get that confidence that i could do it. some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood, hostility, agitation, depressed mood and suicidal thoughts or actions while taking or after stopping chantix. some people had seizures while taking chantix. if you notice any of these, stop chantix and call your doctor right away. tell your doctor about any history of mental health problems, which could get worse while taking chantix or history of seizures. don' take chantix if you've had a serious allergic or skin reaction to it. if you develop these, stop chantix and see your doctor right away as some can be life-threatening. tell your doctor if you have a history of heart or blood vessel problems, or develop new or worse symptoms. get medical help right away if you have symptoms of a heart attack or stroke. decrease alcohol use while taking chantix. use caution when driving or operating machinery. common side effects include nausea, trouble sleeping and unusual dreams. i love myself as a non-smoker. ask your doctor if chantix is right for you.
3:13 am
♪soft holiday music ]♪ can you help me up? [ snow intensifies ] [ sleighbells ring in the distance ] aleve. all day pain relief with just 2 pills. get back to being you. into one you'll never forget. earn triple points when you book with the expedia app. expedia plus rewards. ring ring! progresso! i can't believe i'm eating bacon and rich creamy cheese before my sister's wedding well it's only 100 calories, so you'll be ready for that dress uh-huh... you don't love the dress? i love my sister... 40 flavors. 100 calories or less.
3:14 am
if you got a playstation or xbox for christmas this year, you might be a little disappointed this morning because playstation/xbox networks went down for several hours but hackers say they are behind this. >> but is this morning, we're learning that playstation networks are actually coming online. and xbox mostly up, too. dan simon has more. >> obviously, you have a lot of unhappy people who unwrapped their brand-new presents got that new console, a playstation, or xbox, took it to the tv and
3:15 am
it wasn't working correctly. we should say there's no apparent connection between what happened here and what happened with sony pictures and "the interview." this was launched by a well-known hacking group called lizard squad. apparently they wanted to draw attention to what they say were security holes at microsoft and sony. at that point, we say mission accomplish they're up and running again. at least on the microsoft side, sony, there are problems. this was not a hack where they infiltrated the servers. this is what is called a denial of server attack. kind of like a freeway where somebody does something wrong and you have congestion and the traffic doesn't move properly. alie that to a line and that's what you have here. microsoft seems to be working okay. still would bes with sony. it's not been a great christmas for that corporation. dan simon, cnn, san francisco. >> dan simon, thank you so much. appreciate it. i lot of other news to tell
3:16 am
you about this morning. here is your "morning read." >> former president george h.w. bush will spend at least one more night in the hospital. he was hospitalized tuesday for shortness of breath. bush who is 90 years old is in good spirits and is remaining in the hospital. north korea is fuming over the release of "the interview" and it's blaming president obama. saying he forced sony to release. in a new statement, pyongyang compared obama to a monkey to the fallout. saying the film that predicts kim jong-un is illegally dishonest and reactionary. >> sony's decision to release "the interview" is paying off, however. $1 million at the box office christmas day. sony pulled the plug as you remember, on the original
3:17 am
release day after hackers threatened to attack the theaters who showed it. and spacex will try to land a rocket on a tiny ship at sea. how challenging is that? well, spacex says it's like trying to balance a rubber broomstick on your hand in a middle of a windstorm. that's tough. the takeoff is planned for either january 6th or 7th. so we'll watch that. and in weather, many of you heading back home after christmas. we'll see how it goes, karen maginnis in the cnn weather center. what's it going to be like for people on the road? >> lots of bumps on the road. let's start with the gulf coast, rain could be heavy at times. a couple of inches here with flash flood watches out for a number of ear, from coastal regions in texas, into louisiana and here's the cold front all the way from the great lakes to
3:18 am
the gulf coast. behind it, cold air. but that much colder air is really going to materialize by the middle of next week. we're looking at rainfall from new york, houston, new orleans, towards jackson, mississippi so the rainfall spreads all along the advance of that frontal system. behind it, we'll see snowfall. we've got reports coming out of minneapolis, also in green bay. a couple inches of snow there. a few more expected. here's that clipper system that moved through the great lakes. you will see dramatically colder temperatures. yesterday, chicago, we made it to 60 degrees. that's way above normal. coming in chicago, temperatures in the 30s but only in the teens by the end of next week. what about across the northeast and into new england. temperatures remain in the 50s. by monday, we'll see the 40s, but after that, the temperatures drop in the 30s. look at minneapolis. we go from 26 to 12 degrees by monday.
3:19 am
12 degrees. that's not even close to normal. and the deep freeze across the southwest, kind of shockingly cold. back to you guys. >> we'll be ready for it, karen maginnis, thank you so much. still to come, who is the man in the blue dodgers cap? you take a look at this video. you see the man go into a burning house to rescue an elderly man and then he vanishes. well, the mystery has finally been involved. plus, there are new questions in the death of a georgia teenager found inside of a gym. we'll tell you why a sheriff's office has starting to conduct new interviews, dozens of them. in a german-engineered volkswagen. like the sporty, advanced new jetta... and the 2015 motor trend car of the year all-new golf. if you're wishing for a new volkswagen this season... just about all you need is a finely tuned... pen. hurry in to the sign then drive event and get a five-hundred dollar
3:20 am
new year's bonus on select new volkswagen models. offer ends january 2nd. and we're here in detroit with our amazing team members. the best part about working with quicken loans, is that you have a mortgage expert on the other line that's always gonna find out the best possible solution. we just don't treat you as a loan number. we wanna make sure that we help you out. we're people just like them. ya know, and we know that they have jobs, they have kids, they have soccer. their home is where their heart is. so we wanna make sure that we take care of them. call quicken loans today for a mortgage experience that's engineered to amaze!
3:21 am
3:22 am
good morning. a mystery in fresno, california has finally been solved. >> a fire broke out at a house and rescued a man and saved the day. who was his rescuer, cnn's kyung lah reports after searching he's been found. >> we got to get him out of there. >> reporter: a raging fire. an elderly man trapped inside. and then it explodes out of control. >> we got to get my dad out of there. >> smoke went up through the roof. everybody came running, i felt helpless. >> reporter: that's when she
3:23 am
happened to be passing by and started rolling on her cell phone. as everyone panicked you see this man in a blue dodgers cap calmly walking towards flames. trying to make his way to safety, robert wells, 73 years old, attached to an oxygen tank. >> the flame was really intense and then it kind of went -- >> reporter: wells goes into shock. the fire continues to grow when suddenly -- >> oh! oh, thank god! >> reporter: he's out, slung over the shoulder of the man in the blue dodgers hat. >> he picked me up and the way we went, you know. i was bouncing on his back. the man is like this. one hell of a ride. >> reporter: this all happened less than four minutes after the first 911 call. as firefighters battled the flames that would destroy two homes, the witnesses on the street, all asked the same question. who was that man in the blue
3:24 am
hat? >> didn't see him anywhere. he just went on his way. disappeared. >> that was the big city mystery. the man in the dodger cap. >> i knew over 500,000 people live in fresno. this guy's picture it all over the news and nobody can find him. >> reporter: the man in the dodgers cap. well, we now know who he is. and there's a reason why he vanished his name is tom artiaga, and he didn't want to be found. you knew everybody was looking for you? >> i didn't want no glory. he's a devoted family man, loves his wife, kids and five grandchildren, and he's so uncomfortable talking to us that he can barely look towards the camera as he recalls what he did. >> that's when the explosion went. i just went as a reaction. i saw the old man in the backyard and a picked him up. >> reporter: why did you do
3:25 am
that? >> to help him out, can't leave him burning. can't leave him hurt. >> reporter: no one was hurt in this fire. although robert wells and his family did lose everything. as far as tom, he said he'd do this all over again for robert wells or anyone who might need help. kyung lah, cnn, fresno, california. >> we love those kinds of stories. we need more of that. >> there are a lot of people who say right place, right time, but you also need the right person to go in and do that. >> he was shy about it, too. this also wonderful man, infectious smile, loving man. a man committed to his faith. and now how friends and family describe the slain officer raphael ramos. later today, police from around the country will say good-bye. . >> and the grieving family is searching for answers. nearly two years after this young man, kendrick johnson, was
3:26 am
found in a gym in georgia. the sheriff is conducting dozens of new interviews. we'll tell you why. with 14 grand slam titles to his name, rafa nadal has cemented his place an the all-time tennis greats but the 28-year-old hopes to impact the lives of others with the opening of the rafael nadal "sportscenter" in mallorca in 2016. the academy will include a school where up and coming tennis players can work on their game and their studies. >> for me, it's something special because i love kids. i love tennis. i love the sport. so be able to do something like this is a very good way to prepare my field. and trying to do the right things. trying to win and lose with the right values. in december i hope to do well
3:27 am
with the younger nation. i hope with the kid, to be represented. i have a cold with terrible chest congestion. i better take something. theraflu severe cold doesn't treat chest congestion. really? new alka-seltzer plus day powder rushes relief to your worst cold symptoms plus chest congestion.
3:28 am
[breath of relief] oh, what a relief it is. dave, i'm sorry to interrupt... i gotta take a sick day tomorrow. dads don't take sick days, dads take nyquil. the nighttime, sniffling, sneezing, coughing, aching, fever, best sleep with a cold, medicine.
3:29 am
29 minutes after the hour.
3:30 am
and you're looking at live pictures here in new york where soon these streets will be lined with more than 25,000 police officers. they're gathering there to pay respects and attend the funeral services for one of their slain comrades raphael ramos. >> ramos was one of two police officers ambushed, gunned down, in a police car, just a week ago. well, today, friends and family, they're expected to say good-bye to ramos at the church that he attended. the funeral procession is going to begin around cypress hills streets. thousands of police will lead the way until reached the christ tabernacl tabernacle church. >> vice president biden expected to speak today. ramos' officers by his side to
3:31 am
escort the casket into the church where he once worshipped. >> yesterday, ramos' son and sister reflected on the man they say was doing god's work. their farewell was broadcast on a giant screen for those who just filled the streets. >> he was my rock. he was a beacon of wisdom. he was my absolute best friend. dad, i'll miss you very -- i'll miss you. my dad would have been there for everyone else. and to see so many people here for him is a testament to how it is as a person. it's been so helpful in this difficult time. >> i'm going to keep this short and sweet just like my brother. i know you always worried about me but you know how i rolled because we were two peas in a
3:32 am
pod. we just do and hope for the best. you were one of the most loving people i know and to have you as my brother was -- >> the funeral for the second officer killed, wenjian liu, that's not yet been scheduled. >> our randi kaye, she took a look back at the lives of these two officers, just extraordinary people who were gunned down in brooklyn each week. each man dreamed of making a difference. >> reporter: they were partners on patrol. officer wenjian liu, a seven-year veteran of the nypd, and officer raphael ramos who first joined the precincts in 2012. officer ramos reportedly love the mets. he was married with two children. on facebook, his 13-year-old son wrote, he was there for me every day of my life. he was the best father i could
3:33 am
ask for. it's horrible that someone gets shot dead just for being a police officer. i will always love you and i will never forget you, rest in peace, dad. >> he was god he was god because the heart he had is uncompared to other people's heart. >> reporter: ramos' cousin told "the wall street journal" that god was a priority in his life. 40-year-old grew more passionate about his church. on his facebook page a quote reads if your way isn't working, try god's way. the same page that said ramos had been married since 1983. and once studied at a seminary. in fact later that saturday afternoon he the day he was killed he was scheduled to graduate from a chaplain program. the pastor at the church told us ramos had an infectious smile and loved his wife and two boyce justin and jaden.
3:34 am
>> i would like to thank all of those who shared our sympathy and support for our family member raphael ramos who will always be loved and missed by many. >> reporter: officer liu, who is 32 had been married just a couple months. described by some in the neighborhood as quiet and in love. his parents were from china. according to media reports he was their only son. one summed police work in "the new york times." i know that being a cop is dangerous but i must do it. officer liu had said. if i don't do it and you don't do it, then who's going to do it? >> randi kaye, wow, just amazing. two individuals who wanted to minister, wanted to give back. and just so full of love. >> yeah, in and out of the uniform. we're hearing so much about these two men. we'll tell you more throughout the morning. of course, our live team
3:35 am
coverage will continue throughout the hour. also charities had stepped forward to lend a helping hand to the officers. bowden college will pay the remaining tuition for justin ramos. he's the son of raphael ramos, you heard him just a few moments ago speaking at the service yesterday. >> and jetblue has offered to play travel expenses to liu's family to travel from china to the united states. the airline has paid for 700 officers to travel to new york for today's funeral. >> meanwhile the steven tiller foundation intends to pay off the home mortgages of the liu and ramos family. estimated to be around $800,000. we'll continue the coverage. five thing you need to know for your "new day." up close, a sheriff's office in georgia says it's conducted new interviews in the death of kendrick johnson. he was the teenager found dead
3:36 am
nearly two years ago inside a rolled gym bag. these interviews appear to be from a new video released to the family. it challenges the whereabouts to a former classmate of johnson. his family believes he was murdered. a court in ireland ruled that a woman 18 weeks pregnant can be taken off life support. the woman was declared clinically dead and her family wanted her to die with dignity. the high court decided there was no medical evidence her child would survive. lawyers representing the unborn child said they won't appeal. >> number three, and this is a strange story. it's out of massachusetts. the fbi is now investigating who stole a baby jesus form from a nativity scene and replaced it with a pig's head, a real one. a priest at a church north of boston called police on
3:37 am
christmas morning reporting that theft. and police are asking the public for help in solving this really odd crime. and number four, mcdonald's customers in japan will soon be free to load up on as many french fries as they want. a labor dispute in the united states had caused a delay in the export of the fries. so mcdonald's could only sell small portions to more than 3,000 restaurants in japan. that ends january 5th when customers can start loving their fries again. and discusseden diamond was arrested after allegedly stabbing a man. according to police, diamond said he saw two men holding his girlfriend by the hair and she bleeding. the wound was not life threatening. diamond is charged with three misdemeanors, including use of a dangerous weapon. seven more prisoners are due
3:38 am
to be move of guantanamo bay in the n next few days. we'll tell you why president obama thinks the prison encourages terrorists and why he wants to dismantle. and -- >> i just want to give back to people. it's not going to be that much. >> hey, anything is good. >> this is a hundred bucks here. >> oh, no way. >> a homeless man is given a hundred dollars to see how he would spend it. he goes into a liquor store. what happens next? we're going to tell you this incredible story up next.
3:39 am
i've always loved exploring and looking for something better. that's the way i look at life. especially now that i live with a higher risk of stroke due to afib, a type of irregular heartbeat, not caused by a heart valve problem. i was taking warfarin, but wondered if i kept digging, could i come up with something better. my doctor told me about eliquis... for three important reasons. one, in a clinical trial, eliquis was proven to reduce the risk of stroke better than warfarin.
3:40 am
two, eliquis had less major bleeding than warfarin. and three, unlike warfarin, there's no routine blood testing. don't stop taking eliquis unless your doctor tells you to, as stopping increases your risk of having a stroke. eliquis can cause serious and in rare cases fatal bleeding. don't take eliquis if you have an artificial heart valve or abnormal bleeding. while taking eliquis, you may bruise more easily and it may take longer than usual for any bleeding to stop. seek immediate medical care for sudden signs of bleeding, like unusual bruising. eliquis may increase your bleeding risk if you take certain medicines. tell your doctor about all planned medical or dental procedures. those three important reasons are why eliquis is a better find for me. ask your doctor today if eliquis is right for you.
3:41 am
it is something that continues to inspire jihadists and extremists around the world, the fact that these folks are being held. it is contrary to our values. and it's wildly expensive. we're spending millions for each individual there. >> president obama there giving his reasons for why he wants to shut down the prison at guantanamo bay. and we are learning this morning that he's getting a little closer to his goal. the u.s. hopes to transfer dozens more detainees out of guantanamo in the next few months. that is including as many as five in the next few days. correspondent barbara starr has more on the details. >> victor, suzanne, the obama administration hopes to transfer dozens of detainees from
3:42 am
guantanamo bay in the next several months. part of the president's effort to shut down the facility eventually. look for several detainees to be transferred, indeed, by the end of the year. and then dozens more perhaps in the first half of 2015. the president has long said he wants to shut 2 down. he believes it's an attraction toward recruiting jihadists because it is so widely disliked in the islamic world. he says it's way too expensive to run especially if they can get it down to just several dozen detainees remaining there. one of the problems is there are now dozens of detainees from yemen who are cleared for release. they could be sent back to yemen. they could be tonight a third country, but here's the problem. you can't send them back to yemen because al qaeda is so active in yemen right now. and no third country yet is willing to tyke them. so there's a long way to go.
3:43 am
but 2015 could be the year the president can make some progress on his vow to shut gitmo down. suzanne, victor. >> barbara starr, thank you so much. we've got cnn military analyst retired army general spider marks joining us from washington. i want to pick up on that point barbara starr just made about the yemenis. we know that 64 of the 102 eligible to be transferred -- 64 are eligible to be transferred, 54 of those are yemeni. what do you do with those? >> the bigger issue, you've got 132, and you're exactly right, 54 are ready for release in one form or another. third countries are not going to take hem. however, we could work deals where that could take place. the alternative is if you're
3:44 am
going it shut down gitmo, frank list, i think that's a good idea. i think it's outlived its utility. not for the reasons that the president talked about. we can talk about that in a second. but it needs to go away. we've got a congress that owns each of those facilities. senators and congressmen would say look i want these guys in my district or i do not want these guys in my district. and then the issue then becomes how do you effectively get these folks out of gitmo. it's outlived its facility. it becomes a tough issue because these are enemy combatants. these are not dued same due process that you and i are due in a court of law. these detainees if we're going to close gitmo. which is the goal of the president, i got it, they need to go some place. and that's a hard discussion that needs to take place. certainly, congress has an ally in smart john mccain which is a
3:45 am
very strong and compelling story that he has after spending almost five years of his life in a box in vietnam. this is a very tough one that the president needs to take on but it's more than rhetoric, it has to get done. >> one of the reasons president obama said it has to be shut down because we're spending millions of dollars per detainee. >> victor, that's a great point. i think this is all silliness, it isn't the amount of money. the president doesn't care about the amount of money. it's a political issue for him. he put the flag down, he said we need to close this place. he's been at it for six years. has been make nothing progress of getting it closed. it's one of the first executive orders that came in place before becoming president. he wants to get this done before he leaves office. and frankly, it should be done but the issue is more political than anything else. it's not the cost.
3:46 am
we can do nothing in radical islam, these barberist folkses who have shut down this religion. it doesn't enhance the fact that we got gitmo. a political issue, we've got to get rid of it. >> how secure can the american people be in knowing and how certain is the u.s. government that these people being released to third countries or their home countries are indeed not rejoining the ranks and leaderships of these groups? >> we can be convinced they are rejoining the ranks. these are recidivists. this is what they do. they have no other vocation. their desire in life is to eliminate folks like you and me. they're going to join the ranks, irrespective of where they go. we're talking about 132. it's a religion of over a billion. it's a wonderful religion. it's radicalized a percentage of it. a very small percentage of it.
3:47 am
and this is 132 that are going to continue to add to their increased radicalism. it's not a big number but it's a tough issue we have to address. >> president said in his first two months in office that gitmo wob closed by 2009. do you think he'll be able to close it by the second term? >> i'm optimistic that he will because he has the support of an incredible senator in john mccain whose voice needs to be heard. but at the end of the day, there are constituents at home who have to convince them that, look, we've got this confinement facility in our district and we're going to put these incredibly bad people inside. and we haven't worked through all the legal ramifications. very tough issue but we can get it. >> major general spirder marks, thank you so much.
3:48 am
and a scare at the cdc. a worker may have been exposed to the ebola virus. also, you're looking at live pictures of new york. this is where we're expecting 25,000 police officers to gather to say good-bye to one of their own. i want you to stay here for live coverage of the funeral of the slain officer raphael ramos. turn the trips you have to take, into one you'll never forget.
3:49 am
earn triple points when you book with the expedia app. expedia plus rewards. how you're going to survive ianother harsh winter,d or stay dry from torrential rain showers, or savor the last warm rays of sun... step inside the jeep® grand cherokee... and wonder no more. this is the jeep® grand cherokee. the most awarded suv ever. well-qualified lessees can lease the 2015 grand cherokee laredo for $369 a month.
3:50 am
3:51 am
about nine minutes until the top of the hour. in the have other gay players in the nfl called you or you? >> very reached out to me. >> meaning, one, two, three, four, five? >> very few reached out to me. and pretty much thankful how they wish that they had the courage to come out. >> gay men in the nfl. >> gay men in the nfl reached out to you. >> reached out to me.
3:52 am
showed respect and my courage. it was very good. >> and you're using the plural "men." not "man." >> men. there's a lot of us out there. i'm not the only one. i'm just the only one who has spoken. >> he's now a free agent and he hopes to get another chance to play in the nfl. >> a potentially deadly mistake after the centers for disease control in atlanta. a small amount of merely containing the live ebola vire was transferred from one of the facilities secure labs to a lab not equipped to handle the virus. so far, the technician has no
3:53 am
simp symptoms of the illness. no quarantine. it's the kind of mistake cdc director tom frieden said he was determined to avoid repeating earlier this year. >> what we're seeing is a pattern that we missed. and the pattern is an insufficient culture of safety. >> reporter: at that time, frieden was on the hot seat, addressing laboratory handling of anthrax and avian flu. >> he's were unacceptable events they should never have happened. >> reporter: the lab was closed pend rege due and decontaminated. the material was destroyed. an investigation was launched and and an investigation to sylvia burwell and others up and down the chain of command. as for others cupping in contact with the material, cdc says a handful of others coming into the lab have been contacted.
3:54 am
they will be addressed for possible exposure. but only one technician is being monitored. the cdc does not believe anyone outside the lab could have been exposed. joe johns, cnn, washington. and the toll that ebola has taken on three west african countries there have been almost 19,700 cases in liberia, sierra leone and guinea since the outbreak began. more than 76 hundred people in those countries have died from ebola. still to come, you want to see this one. a homeless man is given $100 and then secretly records. he walks into this liquor store. however there say surprising twist. you have to see this one, it's coming up next.
3:55 am
3:56 am
3:57 am
$100 handed to the homeless man. and then camera's secretly recording how he would spend that money. >> yeah. and it's a great story. alison kosik has got the outstanding results. >> reporter: when youtube star
3:58 am
josh famous for making videos like sex with your girlfriend, he gave a homes man $100. he wants to track how to spend the cash. hey, how are you, i'm josh, nice to meet you. >> i'm just trying to get something to eat. >> reporter: this is what i like. giving back to people. it's not going to be that much. >> hey, anything is appreciated. >> oh good. this is a hundred bucks here. >> oh, no way. >> yeah, keep it, it's yours now. >> reporter: lynn waiting secretly filming. the man's first stop after getting the money, a liquor store. >> just keep filming. >> where did he go? >> across the street. let's go. >> reporter: loads down with two full bags from the liquor store, the man makes his way to a park. followed all along by lyin and his camera.
3:59 am
♪ inside the bags, no liquor, no booze. just food. >> food. >> thank you. >> hey. >> what are you doing here? >> i was following you the entire time. i decided to give you money, my cam -- did you see the camera? >> oh, yeah. >> you didn't know that? >> no. >> i owe you an apology, you 20 a liquor store, earlier. >> you thought i was going to get smacked up drunk, huh? >> i thought you were going to buy alcohol. >> there's things money can't buy. i get a happiness out of what i'm doing. >> reporter: a man with nothing to give ended up giving everything he. and lin, the youtube prankster
4:00 am
left speechless. a video made with the idea of exposing the homeless, left simply exposing a man who defied stereotypes. >> that was great. >> give someone an opportunity, they will surprise you. a fund-raising page is set up to start helping the man get back on his feet. $90,000 thus far has been donated. sure looking at live pictures of new york where the funeral of new york police officer raphael ramos will take place later this morning. good morning, everyone, i'm in for christi paul. >> and i'm victor blackwell. after two police officers were murdered in the streets of new york, more than 25,000 people police officers from around the country are expected to say good-bye to one of their
4:01 am
own. >> later this morning, the funeral for officer ramos will take place at the christ tabernacle church in queens. vice president joe biden, mayor bill de blasio and police commissioner bill bratton among those expected to speak. >> here you saw the pictures of the scene, where thousands lined to pay their respects. ramos' son and sister reflected on what they say ramos was doing god's work. >> he was my rock, he was a beacon of wisdom. he was my absolute best friend. dad, i'll miss you very much. i'll miss you. >> keep this short and sweet, just like my brother. i know you always worried about me, but you know how i rolled because we were two peas in a pod. you never think, just do. and hope for the best. you were one of the most humble people i know and having you as
4:02 am
my brother is the highest honor that could have been bestowed upon me. >> we have a team of reporters covering this from all angles this morning. we've got miguel marquez in new york. and nick valencia. >> i want to start with miguel there. when we heard these numbers, first 15,000, then 20,000, then 25,000 officers, maybe 30,000 officers, from across the country. you've spoken with many of them. why are they coming? w why did they feel the need to travel to new york? >> reporter: well, in this particular case, victor, police officer, moved by the way they were assassinated in their squad car in a new york city street. new york funerals are always enormous affairs. this is probably the biggest one yet.
4:03 am
they're planning for 25,000 police officers but when you add in friends and family and others from the community that have come to watch it's likely to be upwards of 35,000 in this densely packed park of queens. >> reporter: the casket of one of new york's finest. mourners lines the sidewalks, paying their respects to officer raphael ramos. his casket draped in an nypd flag. his fellow officers right by his side, entering a church where he once worshipped. >> i feel really sad because he's like a known person around our neighborhood. >> reporter: honoring the life of a man who was shot dead along with fellow officer wenjian liu, the two ambushed while having lunch in their patrol car on a brooklyn street. >> life is not guaranteed. my heart goes out to the families. it's really sad.
4:04 am
>> reporter: 25,000 law enforcement officers from across the nation expected among the massive crowd to support a deeply shaken police department. nypd brass and political leaders also in attendance, all wear of the tensions. >> this is going to be a dark period for new york unless we can turn it around. >> reporter: police not taking any chances with security. a full show of force from the rooftops to the streets. officer ramos joined the nypd three years ago. he was on his way to becoming a chaplain. liu, an only child, was married only two months ago. his distraught widow at a press conference seeking donations for both men. former mayor rudy giuliani pledging $25,000 to a fund. the new york yankees pledged to pay for the kids' education and queens-based jetblue airlines is
4:05 am
flying law enforcement to the funerals from around the country for free. a heartbroken city rallying around two beat officers whose extraordinary killing is left despair. >> it's a shame. it's terrible. it's absolutely terrible. i can't get over it. >> reporter: now vice president biden will speak at this funeral. but maybe more importantly, mayor bill de blasio whose relationship with beat cops in new york has been tested in recent days. he will also speak at the funeral. it's the beginning of the first of two very tough days for new york. >> miguel marquez, thank you so much. let's head to washington where vice president joe biden is expected to depart for new york to attend that funeral. erin mcpike is live at the white house. erin, we know this is something that has reached the white house because of this national discussion that we're having when it comes to race, when it comes to good policing and
4:06 am
relations. and a cooling off period if you will that many have called for. why is the white house weighing in today? >> well, suzanne, they want to show some solidarity with law enforcement. of course, president obama has been focusing on race relations and issues there. listen here to him had discuss those issues in a recent interview with cnn. >> is and when you look at what's happened in law enforcement across the country over the last several years, that's not news to african-americans. what's different is it's now video taped and people see it. and the question then becomes, now, what practical steps can we take to solve this problem. and i believe that the overwhelming majority of white americans, as well as african-americans, want to see this problem solved. so i have confidence by surfacing these issues, we're going to be able to make progress on them. >> reporter: and suzanne, we've also heard president obama make
4:07 am
moves to begin to remilitarized law enforcement. 24 there's been some progress. but they want to show solidarity with law enforcement. and that's why vice president biden is going today. >> any sense of the message? >> not yet, president obama and many organizations, i should say, staffers, have been with him in hawaii as he's been vacationing. but we don't know much about what vice president biden will be saying today. but again, he's trying to show some sensitivity to law enforcement at this difficult time. >> erin mcpike, appreciate it. let's get to nick valencia, he's giving reaction to how people are reacting on social media. facebook, twitter, instagram often become digital memorials. >> this is a national conversation. still very early this morning just after 7:00 a.m.
4:08 am
we're hearing people weigh in. one of the most outspoken is the i can't breathe organizer poppy sand. he's saying i will not mourn the death of two cops. i will mourn the death of two fellow human beings. and he goes on to write a long blog to explain himself. poppy send, one of the lead demonstrators. and as she posted a photo with solidarity saying i am wenjian liu and i am eric garner. his funeral not yet named yet. and then a local twitter account here support brooklyn saying police lives matter too.
4:09 am
i'm sorry for the lives of wenjian liu and raphael ramos. a longer post on reddit. if you guys have anything to weigh in on, you can use the hash tagging on nycpray. and you can tweet me@cnn, and we'll try to include your posts later on. >> nick valencia, thank you so much. and there are now been now men who have been arrested accused of threatening police. are police more vulnerable now? we're going to talk to a retired police detective and get his take on that. plus, president obama trying to shut down guantanamo bay. we'll tell you why this week he had may get one step closer. : wa narrator: that got torture tested by teenagers and cried out for help. from the surprised designers. who came to the rescue with a brilliant fix
4:10 am
male designer: i love it narrator: which created thousands of new customers for the tennis shoes that got torture tested by teenagers. the internet of everything is changing manufacturing. is your network ready? and i quit smoking with chantix. people who know me, they say 'i never thought you would quit.' but chantix helped me do it. along with support, chantix (varenicline) is proven to help people quit smoking. it gave me the power to overcome the urge to smoke. some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood, hostility, agitation, depressed mood and suicidal thoughts or actions while taking or after stopping chantix. some people had seizures while taking chantix. if you have any of these, stop chantix and call your doctor right away. tell your doctor about any history of mental health problems, which could get worse while taking chantix or history of seizures. don' take chantix if you've had a serious allergic or skin reaction to it. if you develop these, stop chantix and see your doctor right away as some can be life-threatening. tell your doctor if you have a history of heart or blood vessel problems,
4:11 am
or if you develop new or worse symptoms. get medical help right away if you have symptoms of a heart attack or stroke. decrease alcohol use while taking chantix. use caution when driving or operating machinery. common side effects include nausea, trouble sleeping and unusual dreams. i'm a non-smoker, that feels amazing. ask your doctor if chantix is right for you. dave, i'm sorry to interrupt... i gotta take a sick day tomorrow. dads don't take sick days, dads take nyquil. the nighttime, sniffling, sneezing, coughing, aching, fever, best sleep with a cold, medicine.
4:12 am
and you see there the sun coming up in new york city right now. a beautiful picture there. just a couple hours. 25,000 police officers, this is from around the country. who are expected to attend the funeral of a fallen new york city police officer raphael ramos in just a couple hours. you're looking at live pictures there. this is christ tabernacle
4:13 am
church. you see some of the officers gathering around the church. officer ramos and his fellow officer wenjian liu, you might recall just a week ago, shot in the head, executed just sitting in their patrol car. >> since their murders, nine people have been arrested accused of making threats against new york police. retired police department detective harry huff joins me now. good morning, glad to have you with us. >> good morning. it's a sad day in new york city. >> it certainly is. we want to talk about the continuing threats. one of the men arrested allegedly walked into the 28th precinct and harassed or threatened officers. do you feel that officers are more vulnerable now or we're just paying attention? >> i think things happen all the time. i think they're more vulnerable because of the rhetoric out there because of nut cases that feel like they've got to do
4:14 am
something. >> tell me about the mentality coming back in the street and working for maybe the officers at the 28th precinct. how does one compartmentalize. after that one person comes in and threatens an officer, not taking that angst, or that fear or concern into the community, how do you do that? >> what i think a lot of people don't realize is that police officers live with these threats every day. although they're on a heightened level because of the threats. i don't think police officers, i know for myself, and i worked up in the 2-8 before, that officers aren't going to really react much differently than before. >> police say that 28-year-old ismaaiyl brinsley who shot the officers and killed them. hours before brinsley posted on his instagram account that he was, quote, going to put wings on pigs today. tell us about the growing concern about social media
4:15 am
accounts in catching posts like this when they're posted. >> well, you know, the police department and civilians alike, when they go through facebook, looking for these types of things, they will contact the police. i know i think there were three different incidents on social media where the police were notified or the police had picked it up that there were threats against police officers. and the police officers need to substantiate those threats and see if they're an incredible threat. once they're a credible threat to track down that person through their i.p. address and investigate them. >> a credible threat, a lot of people say on social media they post things on social media they don't mean, they're just venting? >> well, basically, not only they're making a verbal threat, we had an instance where a guy posted a picture of himself pointing a gun at a police officer radio car.
4:16 am
things like that. they got to try to substantiate that threat. whether or not it's credible. and then speaking to the person, you'll be able to figure out whether the threat is credible or not. >> i just want to talk to you as a retired member of the police department. what are you feeling today? >> i'm feeling really sad today and i'm feeling heartbroken has happened with these two officers. an assassination like this -- we deal with maybe being killed in the line of duty or injured. but an assassination is something that's totally different. that's why you're going to see tens of thousands of police officers cup to new york to pay their respects to these police officers. an assassination, thank god, isn't something that happens every day, but it goes to the heart of the city. it goes to the mind-set of the city. not only police officers, but i'm sure tens of thousands,
4:17 am
millions of people are mourning these officers today. >> yeah. there's an opinion piece on cnn.com that talkinging about the thin blue line that i suggest people go and read. kind of approaching this from a former officer's perspective. detective harry houck, thank you for talking with us. a business day of news. here's your "morning read." up to five detainees of guantanamo bay may get transferred in the next few days. the obama administration hopes to transfer dozens more, that in coming months. but the president wants to shut down guantanamo calling it an inspiration for terrorists and wildly expensive. north korea is fuming over the release of "the interview." blaming president obama. pyongyang compared obama to a monkey in the satirical fallout. it says the film which depicts the assassination of kim jong-un
4:18 am
is illegal and reaction father. and sony banked $1 million on christmas day. sony pulled the plug on the original release date after hackers threatened to attack the theaters that showed it. spacex will try to land a rocket on a tiny ship at sea. if you're wondering how big of a challenge this is, spacex says it's like trying to balance a rubber broomstick on your hand in the middle of a windstorm. the takeoff is planned for january 6th, maybe the 7th. and in weather, rain and snow expected to cause some headaches for folks returning home after celebrating the holidays. a couple inches of rain. flash flood watches expected along the gulf coast. and an arctic blast is on its way for new year's. snow hit el paso, texas.
4:19 am
but sun is expected for the hyundai sun bowl as duke is stot play arizona state. and is north korea really behind the sony attack. we're going to tell you why there are new doubts about that claim. plus, we're three hours from the start of -- the funeral of raphael ramos there in new york. you see the flowers outside. the hearse there as well. we expect to see tens of thousands of officers line the procession. we'll bring you that as well as a city, a country, pays tribute to a fallen officer. work better on pain than tylenol arthritis. so why am i still thinking about this? how are ya? good. aleve. proven better on pain. ring ring! progresso! i can't believe i'm eating bacon and rich creamy cheese before my sister's wedding well it's only 100 calories, so you'll be ready for that dress
4:20 am
uh-huh... you don't love the dress? i love my sister... 40 flavors. 100 calories or less.
4:21 am
4:22 am
welcome back. there are some new theories floating out there about the sony hack. well, some hacking analysts are not convinced it came from north korea. >> so could the fbi actually be mistaken? our brian todd explains why there's now new doubt. >> reporter: the forensic trail of the sony hack. it's mysterious, difficult to follow. and now, it's sparking increasing doubt over the fbi's belief that hackers works for north korea are responsible. >> it's based on both forensic and other evidence that we've collected that ultimately they are not responsible for orchestrating or initiating the
4:23 am
attack on sony. >> reporter: the cybersecurity form norse did its own investigation of the hack. norse included cloudflare said that the malware used in the sony attack is similar to other malware used in other attacks by north korea. these sources say that malware was leaked and could have been used anywhere in the world. they have evidence that hackers stole the credentials of a sony insider, but norse believes it was given out. and they tracked it to one potential suspect, a woman co-named lena a former sony employee. they say lena was a security staffer with sony who had what he calls super user access to the company's cybersecrets. user names and passwords to
4:24 am
critical systems. he said lena had two motives for the hack. >> first of all, how sony treated its employees. layoffs that were going on in the department. but also a bigger issue around piracy and how sony was treating those who had producer and moved other content and how they would be prosecuted in the u.s. and other countries. >> reporter: experts have lingering doubts about the ability to carry out such a sophisticated attack. >> this is beyond the skill level that we've observed. >> reporter: if north korea did commit a hack analysts say it would have been done by the reconnaissance general bureau, it's commanded by a very influential former bodyguard for kim jong-un's father and grandfather. >> they have somebody who is intimate to the kim family. not only showing the importance of north korea's national
4:25 am
security apparatus on these electronic and cybercapabilities. >> reporter: north korea has formally denied hacking sony. sam gliens said his firm has shared that information with the fbi. we reached out to the fbi and to sony regarding the findings on lena. and we asked the fbi for comment on the overall doubts that north korea did this. neither the fbi nor sony would comment on any of it. brian todd, cnn, washington. and talking more about the topic of cyberthreats lieutenant general mark hurley later this hour. of course, it was supposed to be just another day of patrol for police officers raphael ramos and wenjian liu. now tens of thousands from around the country, they are preparing to say gootd-bye to oe of their own as these officers were gunned down in cold blood. you're looking at live pictures
4:26 am
from new york. spluplus, the sheriff's department is conducting dozens of new interviews in the death of a teen found dead in a gym mat. tyou have two options... afyou can stay inside., or get behind the wheel of the jeep grand cherokee
4:27 am
with an available best-in-class 4x4 traction management system to maximize control, giving you confidence in all weather conditions. this is the jeep® grand cherokee. the most awarded suv ever. well-qualified lessees can lease the 2015 grand cherokee laredo for $369 a month.
4:28 am
on thinto an entire tribe's studentseducation. to turn their education but only five percent of indians on the reservation can afford to go to college. i was thinking about htaking this speed test from comcast business. oh yeah? if they can't give us faster internet or save us money, they'll give us 150 bucks. sounds like a win win. guys! faster internet? i have never been on the internet and i am doing pretty well. does he even work here? don't listen to the naysayer. take the comcast business speed test. get faster speeds or more savings, or we'll give you $150. comcast business. built for business.
4:29 am
approaching the bottom of the hour now. a live look in queens here. that's where thousands of friends and relatives from police departments across the country and people who just live in this community are expected to gather to say good-bye to slain officer raphael ramos. he was ambushed and gunned down by his partner wenjian liu a week ago in this patrol car. we've got miguel marquez in new york. set the scene there. what are you seeing there? >> reporter: well, they're just starting to set up for this massive event. there's a lot of secret service here. we had that in front of the church, you can see how the police are setting up at the moment, you can see a lot of new york city police. there is one car with a shield of new york city police. they have just filled that with flowers. behind that, the hearse that
4:30 am
will eventually carry the casket of raphael ramos to his final resting place. this area will be on complete lockdown. we have a second camera on the mass looking down on cypress hill street. that will carry officer ramos' body to the cemetery which say short way a ways. thousands of people will line that routes awell. we spoke to a couple folks about what this funeral means. >> it breaks all our hearts when something like this happens. and it could be any of us at anytime. that's what hits home. >> as a community, nevertheless, it's one thing to pray for something. in another part of the country, it's a whole other thing when it it hits this close to home. >> reporter: the first of two police officer funerals here in new york. the first, the beginning, of a very tough week for this city, victor. >> absolutely. a tough week for the city.
4:31 am
we have to remember at the center of this, there's a family, and we know that there are some agencies and some charities that have stepped forward to help both families. what are we learning there? >> reporter: unbelievable the turnout. it's been a lot of focus on the protests and the anti-police fervor and concern out there. but tens of thousands of dollars have been raised for these families from several different charities. one the tunnels to towers project has offered to pate mortgages for both families. $800,000. aside from that, the new york yankees have offered to pay the tuition for the ramos children. before all of that, boudwin college said they would pick up the rest of the tuition. jetblue airlines is flying in about 700 officers of different officers from around the country to be here today. all free of charge. they're also working with their
4:32 am
partner airlines that fly overseas to bring officer liu's family in from china. so the outreach and the love for these families. people to embrace the families to let them know that they are cared for is enormous. back to you. >> we're about 2 hours, 2 1/2 hours from the start of the service there. we'll, of course, see that procession soon. miguel marquez, thank you so much. we're joined by former cia director and law enforcement officer tom fuentes. tom, you and i were discussing this throughout the week what this means. for so many people, the nypd and police officers around the country. and i want you to take off your fbi hat and just talk as someone who used to be as a patrol officer, what this means to you. >> well, suzanne, it means a great deal. and i think that, you know, my brother was an officer. my father was a career police officer. and so many friends over the years going back 42 years in the profession myself. but a police officer family,
4:33 am
since i was 1 year old. and yes, it hits home. and after you've gone to dozens and dozens of police funerals over the years of officers killed in the line of duty, it's just one tragedy after another. and i think maybe in the last few months, we've kind of lost sight of why police officers may, in some cases, admittedly overreact in a situation where they're afraid or think they're in danger. but it happens. we've had over 100 police officers killed in the line of duty in 2014 in the united states. and even just this week, 12 hours after officers ramos and liu were gunned down in new york, officer charles kondek was shot and killed in the line of duty in tarpon springs, florida. his funeral also in florida. i know it's not gathering the attention that we're paying on the new york situation for many, many reasons, but that's another police officer's family grieving
4:34 am
at the senseless loss of their family member. >> i think you bring up a good point. a lot of people, they're thinking about these officers, about their families, there's been a lot of protests about the loss of black men. and this is something that people need to think about from both angles here. to see that there are certainly very good police officers day in and day out that do their jobs very well and make the ultimate sacrifice. we know that ramos' family has asked the mayor, bill de blasio to attend. and we have seen that tension with nypd, the officers literally turning their backs to the mayor. do we expect that to play out here in any way today? >> i don't expect that. i haven't heard that. but the friends i've talked to in new york have said they don't expect any similar problem. the family has made the request for mayor de blasio to speak at the funeral. and of course, the vice president will be there. i think out of respect to the ramos family, the officers there
4:35 am
will pay respect to the mayor. >> tom, i know this has been a very emotional week for you as well because of this kind of rift, if you will, between the police and the mayor. the mayor has tried to step up and make amend here's. do you think he's done the right thing? has he struck the right tone over the last several days to look forward and say, look, there are two sides to this? and certainly, most of our police officers are very good men and women on the force? >> yes, in my opinion, he has, you know, since last saturday, when the murders occurred, he ask the protesters out of respect to hold off for a week until after the funerals and allow time for new york to grieve over the officers. and i think, of course, the protesters didn't honor his request. but he did make the request. and, you know, he has been saying the right things. he's held press conferences where he's said if you hear of an incident or see it on social media where someone is
4:36 am
threatening a police officer, police call the police. police notify the authorities because they can't have it. and shouldn't have it. so i think that he's -- he's tried to say the right things and make amends. and he sounds sincere in doing so this past week. we'll see how this goes in the future. but i think for today, the concern is going to be the respect for the ramos family. >> all right. tom, thank you, appreciate it. >> thank you, suzanne. >> about 24 minutes until the top of the hour. let's take a look at the other stories happening this morning. five things you need to know for your "new day." up first, a year and a half after closing its case a sheriff's office in georgia say it's now uconducting dozens of interviews in the death of kendrick johnson. you'll remember he's the young man found get inside a rolled up gym mat. it appears to be on video released by the johnson family. the video challenges the
4:37 am
whereabouts of a former school mate of johnson on the day he died. johnson's death was ruled an accident but his family believes he was murdered. number two, former president george h.w. bush is still in the hospital after experiences shortness of breath a spokesman said he was expected to stay one more night. he got a visit from his son george, he's expected to be there. and hackers claimed responsibility for the problems with gamers eager to test skills against competitors in virtual space. number four, in his first television interview since being cut from the dallas cowboys michael sam told oprah he's not the only gay player in the
4:38 am
league. sam said the first openly gay player in the nfl said other players reached out to them saying they wish they had had the courage to come out. and number five, private exploration company spacex is gearing up to try to land a rocket on a tiny ship at sea. here's that ship. how challenging is it? spacex says try balancing a rubber broomstick on your hand in the middle of a windstorm. the takeoff is set for january 6th or 7th. and now cyberexperts expect that pyongyang was not responsible. we've got details ahead. plus, two terror groups are competing for attention in the jihadist community. are they more likely to strike the u.s. as they fight for power? turn the trips you have to take,
4:39 am
into one you'll never forget. earn triple points when you book with the expedia app. expedia plus rewards.
4:40 am
and we're here in detroit with our amazing team members. the best part about working with quicken loans, is that you have a mortgage expert on the other line that's always gonna find out the best possible solution. we just don't treat you as a loan number. we wanna make sure that we help you out. we're people just like them. ya know, and we know that they have jobs, they have kids, they have soccer. their home is where their heart is. so we wanna make sure that we take care of them. call quicken loans today for a mortgage experience that's engineered to amaze!
4:41 am
we want to say thank you. if it wasn't for theaters like this and people like you this literally would not be [ bleep ] happening right now.
4:42 am
>> that was seth rogen thanking fans on christmas for coming out to see "the interview." despite of the hack sony still banked $1 million at the box office on thursday. could make it a couple million more this weekend. and growing doubts this morning about north korea's role in last month's cyberattack. it was just last week that president obama and the fbi accused north korea to be behind it. but then this. >> it's based on forensic evidence and other evidence collected that ultimately they are not responsible for orchestrating or initiating the attack on sony. >> sam glines' cybersecurity
4:43 am
firm norse said a former sony employee may be the suspect. lieutenant general, thank you for joining us this morning. what do you make that this could have been somebody who was a disgruntled employee. does that sound realistic? >> it doesn't sound realistic to me, suzanne. i believe the government probably has it right and they know what happened. this may be someone else, but i doubt it. >> so how do you come to that conclusion? it seems like they're pretty confident, this independent group, that the president and white house had it wrong? >> reporte >> well, suzanne, i think we have quite a bit of capability that is not being published. and they have a good capability of determining these things along with the national security
4:44 am
agency. and i think they have more capability than perhaps an independent contractor. >> do you think, on the flip side of this here, that the white house is responsible for some of the glitches that we've seen on the internet inside of north korea? you heard the president say and promise that there was going to be a proportional response? >> it's certainly possible. and i would not doubt it. we've seen the attacks. or the disruption of services in north korea have been limited to those things that are used by the elite. by the government, by kim himself. and the rest of the people don't have that much capability of going tonight internet. as someone said, there's only about a thousand ip addresses within north korea. that's about three city blocks within new york. so i think it is a strong possibility because the proportional response would be against the government. the president and administration and national security team know that the people are north korea
4:45 am
don't deserve to be attacked. that this is a governmental action and they're going to limit their response to them. >> lieutenant, are there other ways that the government could actually respond to really hurt the government, to hurt the leadership and not attack the people? is there something that he could do that's a bit beefier? >> yeah, it's tough, suzanne, in north korea, because it's such a dysfunctional state. they do have this crazy dictator who has starved its people. they don't have the kind of infrastructure that most modern states have. so it's very difficult to go after the government without hurting the people. one of the things we were concerned about when developing plans for military operations were we were very concerned about north korea attacking south korea because of weaponry or artillery. but we were more concerned about a an implosion that would cause a huge humanitarian crisis.
4:46 am
that would be much difficult to control than an actual war on that peninsula. >> actually, are we already in a cyberwar with north korea, back and forth? how do we know that's even happening? >> yeah, i think we are in a cyberwar not only with north korea, but there are have been malicious attacks from the united states and other nations. when i was commanding in europe, there was a time that the russians attacked into the estonia network. and what we created was something called a nato cybercenter of excellence to defend against those attacks that willingly use this warfare. it's a new form of warfare and conflict. this is something that we have to contends with. we have to defend the cyberspace so we allow for free commerce and trade within that realm. >> and are you confident that we have those measures in place to
4:47 am
protect our electricity, the electric grid, to protect the water supply, all the things that we need that are connected in some way to the internet? >> yeah, i would have to say, suzanne, that i am not fully confident. i don't even think the government is fully confident in this. as we've seen with the engagement with north korea, sometimes, you don't know where it comes from. sometimes, the hackers are more adapt at this stuff than nation states. where i like would to believe that our critical infrastructure is protected, there's always a potential for wild free-floating electron, if you will, to get into the systems and damage it. that's why i think cybercommand is expand gz their capability. they've only been in existence for a couple years. they've seen how to synchronize networks. >> thank you for taking the time this morning. >> thank you.
4:48 am
there's a fight for dominance between two terror groups, isis and al qaeda. could one group get the upper hand by trying to target the u.s.? i've always loved exploring and looking for something better. that's the way i look at life. especially now that i live with a higher risk of stroke due to afib, a type of irregular heartbeat, not caused by a heart valve problem. i was taking warfarin, but wondered if i kept digging, could i come up with something better. my doctor told me about eliquis... for three important reasons. one, in a clinical trial, eliquis was proven to reduce the risk of stroke better than warfarin. two, eliquis had less major bleeding than warfarin. and three, unlike warfarin, there's no routine blood testing.
4:49 am
don't stop taking eliquis unless your doctor tells you to, as stopping increases your risk of having a stroke. eliquis can cause serious and in rare cases fatal bleeding. don't take eliquis if you have an artificial heart valve or abnormal bleeding. while taking eliquis, you may bruise more easily and it may take longer than usual for any bleeding to stop. seek immediate medical care for sudden signs of bleeding, like unusual bruising. eliquis may increase your bleeding risk if you take certain medicines. tell your doctor about all planned medical or dental procedures. those three important reasons are why eliquis is a better find for me. ask your doctor today if eliquis is right for you.
4:50 am
fights for power against kaek affiliates the chances of attack on the u.s. could be greater. >> both groups have operatives with bomb making expertise. a pentagon correspondent barbara
4:51 am
star has more. >> reporter: in syria propaganda videos of isis has bloody violence, intimidation and killings. in yemen, the al qaeda affiliate puts out its new video showing pictures of its top leader. the two terror groups now vying for power. >> having to ckocom compete for recruits, for attention in the global jihadist community. >> reporter: the u.s. may be in the crosshairs as the rivalry grows. >> i don't think there is any doubt if isis decides to, they have the ability to launch a major terrorist attack on western soil. this is a group with thousands of recruits. >> reporter: al qaeda in yemen posting a new edition of its magazine calling for attacks on the west and complete with
4:52 am
updated instructions yet again on making explosives. the type of instructions that inspired the boston marathon bomb attack. the chaos in controlling al qaeda in yemen made more difficult after a senior yemeni intelligence official was kidnapped by an anti-government rebel group. working with yemen's intelligence agency, vital to president obama's policy of supporting fragile allies. >> the strategy of taking out terrorists who threaten us while supporting partners on the front lines is one that we have successfully pursued in yemen and sue molia for years. >> reporter: in somalia another sign the group there still on the attack, claiming responsibility for an assault on a military base saying it was their revenge for u.s. air strike killing their leader in september. both groups have stated the intent to attack the united states, the only question may be
4:53 am
when and if they would make their move. barbara star, cnn, the pentagon. >> we're about two hours from the funeral of raphael ramos, one of two officers shot and killed just a week ago, today thousands of officers from all over the united states, they are gathering to pay their respects to ramos who leaves behind a wife and two sons. stay with us. [ shutter clicks ] hi there! [ laughs ] -i'm flo! -i know! i'm going to get you your rental car. this is so ridiculous. we're going to manage your entire repair process from paperwork to pickup, okay, little tiny baby? your car is ready, and your repairs
4:54 am
are guaranteed for as long as you own it. the progressive service center -- a real place, where we really manage your claim from start to finish. really. ♪ easy as easy can be bye! millions of real traveler's reviews and opinions, but checks hundreds of websites, so people can get the best hotel prices. to plan, compare & book the perfect trip, visit tripadvisor.com today.
4:55 am
i was thinking about htaking this speed test from comcast business. oh yeah? if they can't give us faster internet or save us money, they'll give us 150 bucks. sounds like a win win. guys! faster internet? i have never been on the internet and i am doing pretty well.
4:56 am
does he even work here? don't listen to the naysayer. take the comcast business speed test. get faster speeds or more savings, or we'll give you $150. comcast business. built for business. we're coming up to the top of the hour. i got to tell you this. two philadelphia transit officers, they wept beyond the call of duty on christmas day. look at this video. it's amazing. they help to deliver a baby boy on the train here on the subway. mom and baby are doing well at a local hospital. the officers paid them a visit. the baby is named chris in honor of christmas. >> one couple got a christmas miracle this year after their son gave them a special note.
4:57 am
>> tears of joy, okay. this is awesome. their grown son pays off his parents' entire mortgage. that is one heck of a gift. it reads, your house is paid off. merry christmas. >> right to the point there. >> awesome. love it. in weather of course many of you heading back home after christmas. so tell us about what we've got in store in the days ahead. >> we've got two major weather stories. one will be the arctic outbreak of cold air that plunges down into west texas. the big end area, el paso. temperatures will be much colder. also across much of the east as that dip in the jet stream is going to plunge the temperatures that have been mild as of late. now temperatures backing off
4:58 am
considerably through the great lakes and the midwest. you're looking at highs only in the teens in some areas. the other big weather story is the soaking rainfall all the way from the gulf coast region of texas into louisiana, you could see several inches of rainfall. and we'll see this clipper system move down across the great lakes region that reinforces the cold air. we've seen snowfall in lubbock, texas and temperatures bitterly cold. 3 to 5 inches of snowfall already across the upper sections of wisconsin, and for chicago, yesterday you were 50 degrees. not going to be that way the next several days. only in the teens and 20s as we go through the middle of the work week. there you can see, chicago, 20s and you'll be lucky if you make to the 21. take a look at st. louis, readings in the 40s but then we plunge down to near freezing toward the beginning of the work week. so the wet weather up and down the eastern seaboard as this frontal system moves through. but the cold front is going to
4:59 am
push those temperatures, as i mentioned, into the teens and 20s. even into the deep south. 30s and 40s expected. and a very cold air mass all the way from utah and into colorado where they have seen just a little bit of snowfall. but we'll see that cold air all across the pacific northwest, 50s to 70s across the florida peninsula. >> there was a lot over christmas, maybe a little snow, right, going into the new year. >> yeah, it looks like that especially across the midwest we'll see 3 to 6 inches, could be heavier in some locations as well. >> travel safe everyone. karen mc karen, thank you. >> this is queens in new york. you can see a hearse filled with flowers for the family of slain officer raphael ramos. tens of thousands of officers, people from around new york,
5:00 am
around the country will be there to say good-bye. >> and much more on that throughout the morning. the next hour of your "new day" starts right now. in just moments police officers from across the united states will line up in new york, paying their respects to officer raphael ramos who was gunned down while sitting in his police cruiser. >> two new arrests in new york, nine then accused of making threats against new york police officers. >> and north korea slamming president obama in a racially charged statement condemning the united states for agreeing to screen "the interview." again, live pictures and you see all of the uniforms there outside this church in queens where thousands of officers, relatives and strangers who just
5:01 am
want to show support, will gather to say good-bye to officer raphael ramos, he is an officer as we know, relative, we heard from his sister earlier, and a father, a father of two. a 13-year-old son jayden and a son in college who is a sophomore. >> i'm suzanne malveaux in for christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. 8:00 on the east coast, just a week ago two police officers were ambushed and murdered in the streets of new york. and now more than 25,000 police officers from across the country will gather to say good-bye to one of their own. >> the funeral for officer raphael ramos is set to take place in about two hours now. you're looking at here live pictures, this is the christ tabernacle church, it is in queens. those who will be in attendance this morning include vice president joe biden, mayor bill de blasio and police commissioner bill bratton. they will all be speaking at
5:02 am
that ceremony. >> let's look at the scene yesterday in queens. thousands lined to pay respects then. ramos' son and sister as we said a moment ago, they reflected on the man they say was doi ining s work. >> it was on a screen for those who filled the street to see this message. >> dear brother, my heartaches so much right now. help me understand why god took you. >> dad, i'll miss you -- i'll miss you through every fiber of my being. >> today's procession will begin around cypress hills and thousands of police officers will lead the way, line the roads until his casket arrives at the church christ tabernacle
5:03 am
in queens. we have a team of reporters and guests covering all angles of the story this morning. we have miguel marquez, erin mcpike, nick here in atlanta and we'll check in with former new york police detective gill alva. >> we begin with miguel outside the church in queens. miguel, people have been there since the early morning hours. strangers, friends, set the scene for us as well. >> reporter: yes. new york city police officer funerals are enormous affairs, incredibly sorrowful. they have been setting up since early this morning. there are hundreds of police officers out there as you can see now. getting ready for what will be even more, thousands of police officers before this is all over. we have a second shot down cypress hills street, that is where the procession will go down. there are also several big screen televisions along that street. separated by half mile, maybe
5:04 am
3/4 mile of three large jumbotron screens so people, probably in the thousands if not tens of thoulss as you get down several blocks from here that will be watching this funeral carried live on the church website. officer ramos was 14-year member of this church. he was training to become a chaplain. that wake incredibly moving last night. here's what a couple folks said about it. >> i feel really sad because this is like a known person around our neighborhood. >> life is not guaranteed and you know, just my heart goes out to the family. it's really sad. >> it's terrible. absolutely terrible. i can't get over it. >> reporter: now, the first of two funerals for new york city police officers. we don't know exactly when the funeral for liu will be.
5:05 am
his family is coming from china. this is the beginning of a tough week for the nypd and a tough time for the city of new york. suzanne, victor. >> miguel, it might be an odd question but with so many police officers there on site but i do imagine that security is going to be an issue as well, that they have bumped up security, a lot of people and a lot of emotions as well. >> reporter: certainly the vice president is here has raised security. there have been a large team from the secret service here yesterday and into today. many of the folks you see are with the vice president's team. they are securing the area. we have helicopters overhead. nypd has placed cameras, temporary cameras around the area as well to keep track of all of the different places. they searched roofs, they have done everything they can to secure this scene. this is not unknown to them. they do these funerals enough and these big events that they have it down to somewhat of a science. so, this is something that they
5:06 am
expect will go well. aside from that, the other concerns around the city, other police officers come into the city, fill in for new york city police officers so they can be here. so everything essentially gets covered. >> all right. miguel marquez, thank you so much. let's head to washington where vice president joe biden is expected to depart this morning for new york to attend officer ramos' funeral. we have erin mcpike. we know that sometimes these occasions on which the president or the vice president travel to a city to offer solidarity or sympathy. it's the message that's most important. but maybe in this case just the presence says enough. >> reporter: victor, that's right. and police advocates do say that just sending vice president biden does make a statement because biden has a pretty good relationship with law enforcement dating back to his time in the senate for his work on the crime bill and also for securing funding for some police
5:07 am
units. meanwhile, president obama has met with some young activists who want to see immediate change in race relations. president obama has discussed that tension recently in the fact that some of these young activists don't trust law enforcement. listen to president obama discuss that in a recent interview with cnn. >> there's no reason for folks to be patient. i'm impatient. that's why in the wake of what happened in ferguson and what happened in new york we've initiated task force that in 90 days are going to be providing specific recommendations. on the other hand, i think an unwillingness to acknowledge that progress has been made cuts off the possibility of further progress. if critics want to suggest that america is inherently and irreducibly racist, then why bother even working on it.
5:08 am
i've seen change in my own life, so has this country. >> reporter: the administration has faced some criticism recently for not including rank and file police officers on this task force so we'll be listening today to hear what vice president -- or vice president biden says to reach out to law enforcement, but as we discussed, just sending him makes that big statement. >> absolutely. erin mcpike live at the white house. thank you. as the vice president makes his way to new york this morning, again, you're looking at live pictures, he is going to be met with a wall of blue along the streets of queens. we are expecting to see as many as 25,000 officers potentially more from new york and around the country expecting to mourn a fallen brother today. and to discuss and we are joined by former new york police detective gil alva. being someone on the force, was on the force, you see what this means to so many people.
5:09 am
what does it mean to you? >> you know, when this gets you, when at the end of the mass and they carry his body out, you have the police bagpipe band playing "amazing grace" and hear the humming of the motorcycles go by. it stays with you the rest of your life. i've been to several of these similar funerals and it stays in -- nypd will remember this for the rest of their lives, all of the ones, every police officer before that and even police officers that come again will remember something like this. so this really hits new york city police department. you could see throughout the country how it hits law enforcement and other officers. and especially in a manner in which they died, the two officers died. >> we've heard that before, gil. can you explain that this was not something that was random, it was not accidental. >> as far as the shooting is concerned. >> yes. >> no.
5:10 am
this was premeditated plan from a person who was mentally decapitated and couldn't think, you know, he wanted to die, planned it out. he wasn't afraid what he was going to do and he did it. and because he got caught he killed himself. so, these officers were sitting in their cars and he just went up to the car, they weren't even looking, shot through the window and killed them both. shot them in the head and they died immediately. i don't think they knew who killed them. all of the other officers, especially the new york city police department, feel that it could have been anybody, especially these two officers who were working overtime not even in their own precinct, and one of those officers just volunteered to do it that day. so it was you know, the uniqueness of this whole thing happening, then these guys are just regular new yorkers. as you know, just regular people without their uniforms. now they were killed because of the uniform. >> and gil, you lost a lot of
5:11 am
friends, do you ever put yourself in that scenario, put yourself in that situation when you are attending these services? >> as far as reflecting on happened to myself? >> sure. >> it could happen but you know, you don't think that way. you're not afraid when you're in the police department. you don't think that could happen to you and you know, you go out and do your business and business as usual in new york. as far as the police department is concerned. so i don't really think though people are aware because of what's going on with around the country and people are targeting police officers, so you have to be aware. but i don't really think that somebody's going to change any officer is going to change their daily routines because they think something's going to happen to them. >> resilient bunch. thank you so much for joining us this morning. difficult morning for so many. appreciate this. >> thanks for having me. tfk funeral for officer ramos expected to start in a
5:12 am
little less than two hours, live pictures again outside of the christ tabernacle church where he worshiped and where he will be remembered. the officers beginning to gather, thousands as we expected will be there for the route to christ tabernacle there in queens. and from the procession through the speakers we'll have complete coverage for you here on cnn. >> and still to come, north korea outraged now with the united states over release of the movie "the interview." they are pointing the finger at one person as the culprit behind it being in theaters. >> there are new questions asked in the death of georgia teen found dead in a gym mat. we'll tell you why a sheriff's office after closing its case a year and a half ago, is now conducting dozens of new interviews. ring ring! progresso! i can't believe i'm eating bacon and rich creamy cheese before my sister's wedding well it's only 100 calories, so you'll be ready for that dress uh-huh...
5:13 am
you don't love the dress? i love my sister... 40 flavors. 100 calories or less.
5:14 am
and i quit smoking with chantix. i had tried to do it in the past. i hadn't been successful. quitting smoking this time was different because i got a prescription for chantix. along with support, chantix (varenicline) is proven to help people quit smoking. the fact that it reduced the urge to smoke helped me get that confidence that i could do it. some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood, hostility, agitation, depressed mood and suicidal thoughts or actions while taking or after stopping chantix. some people had seizures while taking chantix. if you notice any of these, stop chantix and call your doctor right away. tell your doctor about any history of mental health problems, which could get worse while taking chantix or history of seizures. don' take chantix if you've had a serious allergic or skin reaction to it. if you develop these, stop chantix and see your doctor right away as some can be life-threatening. tell your doctor if you have a history of heart or blood vessel problems, or develop new or worse symptoms. get medical help right away if you have symptoms of a heart attack or stroke. decrease alcohol use while taking chantix. use caution when driving or operating machinery. common side effects include nausea, trouble sleeping and unusual dreams.
5:15 am
i love myself as a non-smoker. ask your doctor if chantix is right for you. >> live pictures outside the christ tabernacle church in queens, new york. tens of thousands of officers from the five boroughs and around the country will be there to say good-bye to officer raphael ramos who was shot along side his partner wenjin liu a
5:16 am
week ago today. the service expected to start at 10:00 a.m. eastern. >> and doubts are growing that north korea was behind that massive hack at sony pictures. two leading cyber security firms are raising serious questions. the fbi claims that the malware used in the attack is similar to malware used in other attacks by north korea. but security experts tell cnn that the same malware was leaked a long time ago and could have been used by hackers anywhere in the world. >> at least one potential suspect emerged, a woman code named lena who according to one cyber expert work forward sony for several years. >> north korea says it had nothing to do with the hacking but the leaders are fuming over release of "the interview." a statement was released blaming president obama claiming he forced sony to release the film. as paula hancocks explains north korea personally insulted the
5:17 am
president. >> reporter: we knew that pyongyang would be furious and they haven't disappointed. we had a statement from the all powerful national defense commission, a powerful institution in north korea, showing how seriously they take this. they are not just blaming sony pictures for the release, they are also blaming u.s. president barack obama giving him some very personal criticism, here is part of that statement. they say, quote, u.s. president obama is the chief culprit who forced the sony pictures entertainment to indiscriminately distribute the movie and took the lead in appeasing and blackmailing cinema houses and theaters. they have personal insults for the u.s. president. calling him reckless in words and deeds like a monkey in a tropical forest. now certainly not the first time they insulted the u.s. president, but interesting that they are singling him out for personal criticism effectively saying it's all his fault. now once again, pyongyang say
5:18 am
they weren't responsible for the hacking of sony pictures which is carried out or claimed by a group called guardians of peace. and saying that if washington believes they were involved show them the evidence. they are asking for the proof that the fbi and washington believes that they were involved. the fbi has said that they have found out that the malware used in this attack was similar to previous cyber attacks that were believed to have been carried out by north korea. north korea had many outages and it has blamed that on washington, believing that washington is hacking them. so of course the question now is, is that the end of it? "the interview" has released, people are watching it and north korea has acted furiously as expected so. has it run its course or are we likely to see more cyber attacks in the future? >> paula, thank you very much. >> still to come, play station and x box networks still
5:19 am
recovering from a disruption that angered millions of video gamers. we'll tell you who might be behind the hacks that made the networks go dark for hours. we have live pictures of the christ tabernacle church in queens, the funeral for officer raphael ramos expected to start at 10:00 a.m. vice president joe biden, mayor bill de blasio, and police commissioner william bratton all expected to speak at the funeral today. alright, so this tylenol arthritis lasts 8 hours but aleve can last 12 hours. and aleve is proven to work better on pain than tylenol arthritis. so why am i still thinking about this? how are ya? good. aleve. proven better on pain. get ready foat the volkswagen engineered holidsign-then-drive event. right now, for practically just your signature, you could drive home for the holidays in a new volkswagen. like the sporty, advanced new jetta and the precisely engineered passat tdi.
5:20 am
ah, the gift of clean diesel. for the new volkswagen on your list this year, just about all you need, is a pen. festive, isn't it? hurry in to the sign then drive event and get a five-hundred dollar new year's bonus on select new volkswagen models. offer ends january 2nd. into one you'll never forget. earn triple points when you book with the expedia app. expedia plus rewards.
5:21 am
5:22 am
you're looking at live pictures now. you can see the police officers gathering in large numbers there outside of the christ tabernacle church where the funeral will begin in about an hour and a half for raphael ramos. really at a very emotional scene that we expect to play out as tens of thousands of officers, not only from the five boroughs but also around the country will pay their respect to the slain officer. it will be a who's who, not only people who have come from the streets, but also from the white house. vice president biden will be in attendance as well as mayor bill de blasio of new york and the police commissioner bill bratton all three of them will speak. we will see family, we'll see friends, but we will see
5:23 am
thousands of people who are strangers to this individual, to this police officer. because they are there a strong sea of blue. the strong line of blue. these people who have come out, the men and women, who serve that city and serve around the country to make it known that they are here to pay their respects for the fallen officer. and other news to get you caught up on this morning. here is your morning leap. >> a sheriff's office in georgia says it conducted dozens of new interviews in the death of kendrick johnson. remember, this is 18 months after closing their investigation. the teenager was found dead nearly two years ago inside a rolled gym mat. the interviews appear related to new video released by the johnson family's attorney. the jo challenges the whereabouts of a former classmate of johnson on the day he died. johnson's death was ruled an accident back in may of 2013, but his family believes he was
5:24 am
murdered. >> xbox and playstation networks are slowly coming back after going down on christmas day. hackers say they are behind the outages. they hit on one of the busiest gaming days of the year. neither sony nor microsoft have had much to say about these outages affecting millions of gamers. >> good news for drivers heading home after the holidays. good news for anybody, for us heading home after work. gas prices are continuing to drop. on christmas day missouri became the first in five years to have a statewide average gas price below $2 a gallon. >> so as you hit the road you don't have to worry too much about the price of gas. it's pretty cheap. a very good thing. >> coming down. >> what about the weather? >> it's snowing in el paso, texas. snow. but hopefully it will clear up as duke plays in the sun bowl
5:25 am
today. we have a holiday travel and football to talk about. will the weather cooperate? >> there are quite a few hiccups out there and there you can see on the graphic we've got lots of cold air diving toward the cross, even across the big bend area of texas. temperatures have been mild but all of a sudden you get this plunge of arctic air all the way across the deep south with snowfall wrapped around the great lakes, it's going to be bitterly cold as we head into the next 3 three to five days. you can see temperatures running 20 to 30 degrees below where they should be for this time of year. all the way from montana and into arkansas. that's where we're going to see some of the coldest air. milder temperatures at least in the short-term across the southeast. enjoy the nice weather while it lasts. yesterday in chicago they topped out at 50 degrees. but we're looking at temperatures in the 30s, plunging into the 20s, maybe the upper teens, as we go into the next three to five days. so soaking rain all the way from
5:26 am
houston to shreveport, even into new orleans where we have flash flood watches along the gulf coast. nebraska, finish the season 9-3 and usc made it 8-4. we're looking at sunshine and 59 degrees at kickoff. and for arizona state and duke, cloudy skies and if you're looking for the miami/south carolina game, both 6-6, look for rainfall and temperatures around 60. >> i didn't know you do sports and weather. >> all going on. >> i'm going to watch. >> they are all important. all right. karen maginnis, thank you. we want to remind viewers that we're watching live pictures out of queens as victor and i are watching together the thousands of police officers who are gathered outside of christ tabernacle church. to pay their respects. to that fallen officer, raphael ramos. >> we're also following social media reaction to the sad story
5:27 am
this morning. nick is monitoring the internet and we'll have the latest. k val. . .
5:28 am
running a small business can be tricky. more challenging if your product melts. in this week's start small think big the business of ice sculpting. >> it's one of the coolest places in california. literally. san francisco, david fong, owner and ice carver hard at work. >> my main instrument is a chain saw. then i've got different types of hand tools. every ice sculpture starts with
5:29 am
a design. i'm etching out the major cuts. >> david was taught by his father, a master sculptor who runs ice-lutions. >> he never went out and marketed himself as a business or a brand. for me, i think branding is very, very important for any business. >> since about 2006 they have grown every year and it's helped by a growing presence on social media. >> our main zbol to try to reach as many age groups as possible. >> it's also a place for inspiration. >> being able to share photos and information and pictures on facebook inspires each sculptor to kind of push their limits. >> at ice solution those limits have a goal. >> it's one of those things where you are working to create other people's memories.
5:30 am
>> that's it. are an irresistable sunday morning idea. nothing calls them to the table faster. make breakfast pop! millions of real traveler's reviews and opinions, but checks hundreds of websites, so people can get the best hotel prices. to plan, compare & book the perfect trip, visit tripadvisor.com today. is a really big deal.u with aches, fever and chills- there's no such thing as a little flu. so why treat it like it's a little cold? there's something that works differently than over-the-counter remedies. attack the flu virus at its source with prescription tamiflu. and call your doctor right away. tamiflu is fda approved to treat the
5:31 am
flu in people 2 weeks and older whose flu symptoms started within the last two days. before taking tamiflu tell your doctor if you're pregnant, nursing, have serious health conditions, or take other medicines. if you develop an allergic reaction, a severe rash, or signs of unusual behavior, stop taking tamiflu and call your doctor immediately. children and adolescents in particular may be at an increased risk of seizures, confusion or abnormal behavior. the most common side effects are mild to moderate nausea and vomiting. ask your doctor about tamiflu and attack the flu virus at its source. >> you're looking at live pictures out of queens, new york. police around the country you see them gathering there outside of christ tabernacle church. it's expected 25 to even 30,000 police officers not only from the five boroughs of new york but around the country to pay their respects to the slain officer raphael ramos. there will be family, there will be friends, there will be
5:32 am
dignitaries from around the country. welcome to the bottom of the hour. welcome back. i'm suzanne malveaux. >> i'm vick tur black well. good to have you with us. i want to bring in miguel marquez. >> if you would set the scene for us. you have been there since the early morning hours and seem like the numbers are growing, a lot of people there. i anticipate there will be a lot of emotion as well. >> reporter: it is incredible to see these things happen. they just grow and grow and grow. we got here very early this morning, there were a few police officers, now there are hundreds if not thousands already starting to line the streets outside here. police now trying to control and line up their own so that they can be prepared for the casket of officer ramos that will make its way from christ tabernacle church here on myrtle avenue, down cypress hills street which i think we have a shot of that. you can see police officers and
5:33 am
others lining that route down to the cemetery that is about a mile away. there will be three jumbotrons along the way. the wake last night was several hours long and officer ramos' sister spoke there. >> i know you always worry about me but you know how i roll because we were two peas in a pod. never think, just do and hope for the best. you were one of the most humble people i know and having you as my brother is the highest honor i could have bestowed on me. >> it is just heartbreaking to hear the family speak about a man who -- he was at this church for 14 years, he was training to be a chaplain here. today kicks off a period of mourning for not only the new york police department but for this city as well. >> miguel marquez, thank you.
5:34 am
it's hard not to get emotional when you hear them and the tributes coming in. we know that ramos was a member of that church for 14 years, he was an usher, helped people with marriages, he was really a pile arin that community. >> we heard from gil alba there that we have to remember that this was a man outside of the uniform although he was killed because he was wearing the unifo uniform. you hear from his sister, you hear from his children, you can -- we can understand how valuable he was in his community and as part of this church christ tabernacle where today his funeral will be held. let's go to our nick valencia joining us for a look how people on social media are reacting to the news and the funeral. >> reporter: a very somber day in new york and beyond as raphael ramos is prepared to be laid to rest. all morning long we've been hearing from you. your reaction to the fallen officers. let's start in staten island
5:35 am
where staten island academy tweeted out their message of condolences saying our thoughts and prayers are with justin, class of 2013 and his family now and always. of course justin the eldest son of raphael ramos you heard from last hour give a tribute to his father. another twitter user weighing in on their account here. shelly saying dear friend, please join me and pray for the families of two nypd police officers wenjin liu and raphael ramos who were murdered. more prayers from lightning 7876 saying prayer goes out to ramos and lao families as two nypd officers are laid to rest. we're seeing a lot of these pictures today, these photos from the memorial site where officer wenjin liu and raphael ramos were gunned down last saturday. if you want to join in the conversation, if you would like to tweet condolences or just your reaction to what you're seeing, use these tash tags
5:36 am
here. we'll monitor with nypd officers and #blue lives matter. we'll try to get your comments on air. >> thank you so much. the past few weeks have been quite a book end for 2014 for the president, from a climate deal with china to his executive action on immigration, to staving off a defunding of obamacare and normalizing relations with cuba. we'll look at how the president is ending the year next. more live pictures from queens, new york as police gather to remember one of their own.
5:37 am
5:38 am
if you are figuring out what to do with the leftovers you know that food can be a big part of how a lot of families celebrate the holiday season. but remember, for 49 million americans there may not be enough to eat. now rapper and mogul 50 cent wants to change that by using business principles and good old fashioned elbow grease. from international hip-hop star to creator of a multi-million-dollar empire, curtis 50 cent jackson remembers a time when things weren't so easy. that's why he says he is paying it forward by working with feeding america. >> i had it pretty rough, but not to the point where there wasn't something to eat. but now i'm seeing a lot of kids that have even tougher stories than what i experienced. feeding america, it is the best
5:39 am
charitable organization to be part of if hunger is your cause. >> we have more than 200 members, who helped and provide food to low income people in need. more than 49 million americans are food insecure in this country and we're feeding more than 46 million. >> he joined to help in the food bank for new york city. >> during the holidays food is a big part of how they enjoy themselves. to be able to have people to provide these meals for them in this time period is great. >> for many it's a life line. >> i have kids and i really need help right now as far as food is concerned. i'm so grateful. >> now a partnership means every pair of sms audio head phones purchased on line provides 250 meals to those in need. and proceeds of his energy drink street king goes to help the u.n. world food program. >> when you look at hunger itself, it would take so much to solve it that only place that i see enough finances to do it is
5:40 am
in business itself. this is the real part where you give back.
5:41 am
19 minutes before the top of the hour. the past few weeks have been quite a bookend for 2014 for president obama. climate change deal with china, executive action on immigration, staving off defunding of obamacare, and realigning relations with cuba. now the president's approval
5:42 am
rating has jumped to a 20-month high of 48%. so what does that mean? what is he going to do with it? let's bring in our panel. lisa, i want to start with you. good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> lisa, with 48% approval rating will the president be a stronger contender, stronger adversary in some ways that congress will have to deal with than previously thought? >> i don't think so because look, just in november americans soundly rejected president obama. and with good reason. i mean, president obama's policies have failed the country. if you want to look at one specific issue with the economy, look, millions of americans have been unable to find jobs and have given up finding jobs in this obama economy. we have the lowest work force participation rate in 36 years. and the real unemployment rate stands at 12%. if you want to look at one aspect of the economy that is
5:43 am
grown which is energy, a 50% increase in domestic oil supply but that's not because of obama, that's in spite of obama. he has done everything to stand in the way of the energy by roping off federal lands and placing burdens to regulations. >> let's look at consumer confidence. we can stay with the employment rate, look at the deficit, we can look at gas prices. there are a lot of positive indicators and i expect that the president wouldn't get credit for that but i come to you marks rhea. i'll suggest that you will give him credit for that and say he is stronger against congress. i'm guessing here. >> you guess correctly, victor. and guess what, it's not just me. it's the majority of americans who now say that the economy is going in the right direction. and look, it's laughable when republicans still trying to talk down the economy after we've had a record growth in the last quarter of 5%. we haven't seen that in over ten years.
5:44 am
you had record job growth, 57 straight months of job creation. you haven't seen that in ten years. and all of this has been because of president obama's policies. let's remember when he tried to pass the recovery act, there were hysterical warnings from republicans that this is going to lead to a double dip recession to additional massive job losses to greek style debt crises and we're seeing an economy on the recovery, americans finding good jobs that they want, wages going up and all of this was in spite of republican obstruction at every turn. republicans need take a look at how they work with this president as opposed to against him. >> and he's got 48% approval rating. what is he going to do with it? >> well, i think he is going to focus on that we still have a lot of work to do and that there are still a lot of americans out of work because he's been obstructed at every turn.
5:45 am
so hopefully republicans who now have a responsibility to govern and it's interesting that lisa said that you know, yes, they had a great day on election day in november, but there was a poll that came out right after that saying that half of americans thought it was a bad idea that republicans now had control of both houses of congress. that's what happens when you have an election where only 36% of the american people come out to vote. >> there's also the poll, lisa, that says that 49% of americans believe that the president's policies take the country in the wrong direction. they believe that 49% believe that the republicans policies take us in the wrong direction. is there anything that is overlapping here that the president and republicans in congress can get done in the next session? we talked immigration but that did not happen. >> i think americans rightfully believe that president obama's policies are taking us in the wrong direction. the stimulus that -- >> same number believe the republicans take us in the wrong direction. >> i'll get to that.
5:46 am
the stimulus is a failure, you look at obamacare, it failed to insure the number the administration promised. that they said if you like your health insurance you can keep. and insurance premiums set to increase by double digits. millions of americans have received cancellation letters in the mail. as far as congress and president obama working together i hope they can but look, when president obama leads by moving forward in imgrag it make it tough. one area i hope they can work together, very important, is on tax reform, that's an area that president obama has indicated that he might be willing to work with republicans on. i know it's a big issue for republicans. we face the highest corporate tax rate in the free world, so you know, i do think that's something that they should definitely look toward. another area where president obama might not be too keen on but i think we could get democrat support is repealing the medical device tax. hopefully they can work together. president obama hasn't indicated that he is willing to do that.
5:47 am
>> we've got to -- >> the rates of uninsured are record lows. republicans need to look at what the economy looks like now. >> i think when -- >> thank you both so much. hopefully there will be something the president and congress can get done. thank you both. suzanne. "the interview" is paying off it appears. the movie has banked a million bucks at the box office christmas day. doesn't sound like a lot. if you hit the was only 300 theaters a million bucks is pretty good with. is this the new hollywood? we also want to let you know we're keeping an eye on queens, new york. this is the christ tabernacle church where officer raphael ramos was shot and killed last saturday afternoon. we expect to hear from vice president joe biden, the mayor of new york bill de blasio and police commissioner william
5:48 am
bratton. you see the officers lined up to head inside that sanctuary. we'll continue to follow it. ring ring! progresso! i can't believe i'm eating bacon and rich creamy cheese before my sister's wedding well it's only 100 calories, so you'll be ready for that dress uh-huh... you don't love the dress? i love my sister... 40 flavors. 100 calories or less.
5:49 am
5:50 am
you are looking at live pictures now, this is in queens, new york. there are police that are gathering outside the christ tabernacle church to pay respects to raphael ramos one of the new york police officers
5:51 am
slain just a week ago. we are expecting up to 25,000, perhaps more police officers not only from new york but from around the country. you can see these live pictures as they begin to gather. they have started from early, early in the morning. we are expecting to see family and friends. but thousands of strangers who really feel a tie, a kinship, to raphael ramos. they want to pay their respects and that will begin shortly in about an hour and 10 minutes when the funeral service is under way. of course we are covering this for you live throughout the morning. also this morning, north korea fuming now over release of "the interview" and it is blaming president obama saying that he forced sony to release it. this in a new statement, pyongyang compared obama to a monkey in the continuing fallout over this movie. it says the film which depicts the a sssassination of kim jon n
5:52 am
jong-un. rushing online to see the movie "the interview" but the sony pictures comedy also is a big hit with pirates. believe it or not online hax and headaches continuing now for the embattled studio. first of course, sony was crippled by the attack last month. now according to piracy blogs 750,000 people stole digital copies on christmas day alone. that number is only likely to rise over time. but it doesn't even end there. on christmas day another group of hackers apparently brought down online gaming networks tied to sony's playstation and microsoft xbox. the network is coming back on line this morning. kim joining us live from in touch weekly. let's start off with the good news, that if there is good news for sony, despite these hacks
5:53 am
"the interview" did pull in big money. we're talking about a million dollars in its debut. >> yes. a million dollars, christmas day. and then it made about $600,000 more, looking at for the four-day weekend. that it will make just under $3 million, maybe $2.7 million. so good news for a movie that didn't look like it was going to be out there at all but from these 331 theaters that carried it certainly good to know. far from what it was predicted to make had it opened in the 3,000 theater, maybe $25 million. but still, good news, again. we didn't know if we'd see this plus you mentioned it's online, available for the streaming. it was the top seller on google play, top seller on youtube. so certainly lots of people buying it on these sites. >> we think they are going to make a healthy profit, right, even despite the fact this is limited in release? >> yeah, i mean, they will make
5:54 am
a profit, but will it recoup all of the costs for the movie, $4 million plaus their marketing costs, that's still out there. we don't know how much is made yet from these streaming sites. as you mention it has been pirated, the latest figure i saw 1.7 million pirated copies out there. so, that's what, $10 million that is not going into sony's pockets. so that's a big deal and obviously the pirating will grow. people will be downloading this. although now there's this recognition for this movie around the world so when this starts to be available for downloading in other places than the u.s. and canada, clearly there will be interest there because of all of this that's going on. >> kim, do you think it's possible that they kind of stumbled on a new model, really, to distribute this. you talk about it's on digital and there's people can pay for it but it's online. are we going to see more of movie houses do it that way? >> obviously movie theater chains don't want that because
5:55 am
they don't want this -- it's called a day and date release. it's dwun independent movies but not a big studio release like this. we'll haveto see. this is kind of historic. people wanted to see this. whether you were a fan of seth rogen or james franco, you wanted to be part of history i think a lot of people were saying. you wanted to be patriotic, stand up for freedom of speech. so this might be a different situation. you can look to this but i don't know if this would set the precedent. this has been a discussion in hollywood for a long time about the whole idea of streaming, releasing it online when it debuts so this could have ripple effects in the industry. >> kim, i guess i'm one of those people. i wouldn't have normally gone to see it but it's kind of a must see. it's not the only one out there. there are must sees, other big hits that we should pay attention to. yes? >> yeah. you wouldn't know it but there were other movies that opened. all of the focus has been on
5:56 am
"the interview." some big movies. "unbroken" did well. it opened on christmas day. it will make probably over 40 million. a lot of people were waiting to see how this would do. big hit. then "into the woods" opened christmas day. another did better than expected will make over $40 million for the weekend. which is nice because the box office has been down this year and now we have this new interest in these holiday movies. it's making people think this is great. it's good for the holiday weekend. >> all right. kim, good to see you as always. i guess i'll hit the movies at some point during the holiday. appreciate it. and of course we're watching more serious event play out this morning, live pictures in new york, police around the country lining up you can see them gathering right now outside of the christ tabernacle church where there will be a funeral service that will be held in more than an hour or so for the slain officer, new york city officer raphael ramos.
5:57 am
♪ (holiday mhey! is playing) i guess we're going to need a new santa ♪(the music builds to a climax.) more people are coming to audi than ever before. see why now is the best time. audi will cover your first month's payment on select models at the season of audi sales event. visit audioffers.com today. into one you'll never forget. earn triple points when you book with the expedia app. expedia plus rewards. ♪soft holiday music ]♪ can you help me up?
5:58 am
[ snow intensifies ] [ sleighbells ring in the distance ] aleve. all day pain relief with just 2 pills. get back to being you.
5:59 am
live pics you see the beginning of the processional.
6:00 am
officers, some of the thousands of officers expected to gather to say good-bye to an officer, for some of them a friend, a father to two boys. raphael ramos who was shot and killed a week ago today. that service begins in an hour. >> good morning everyone. i'm suzanne malveaux in for christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. 9:00 on the east coast, 6:00 out west. you are in the cnn newsroom. let's go back to the live pictures outside the christ tabernacle church in queens and all morning we've seen officers on foot and now we see them on their motorcycles from around the city, around the country, gathering because -- in about an hour they would say good-bye to one of their own. >> one week after officer raphael ramos and officer wenjin liu were ambushed and gunned down in the streets of new york. we are expecting more than 25,000 officers, you see them streaming in now, gathering in
6:01 am
queens along with many people from the community. people who knew officer ramos and people who didn't, just strangers who want to pay their respects, and their well wishes. we also are anticipating vice president joe biden, mayor bill de blasio and police commissioner bill bratton, they will be among those speaking at today's service. >> and this is a weekend of honor and tribute. this is the scene yesterday in queens as thousands lined the streets to pay their respects. ramos' son and sister reflected on the man they say was doing god's work. >> their farewell broadcast, this was on a screen for those who filled the streets to see. >> dear brother, my heartaches so much right now. help me understand why god took you. >> dad, i'll miss you -- i'll
6:02 am
miss you with every fiber of my being. >> today's funeral procession we've got a map for you, will begin around sigh bris hills street, from there thousands of police will lead the way until the casket arrives at the church in queens. we have a team of reporters and guests covering the angles and helping us understand, adding context to the story. we've got miguel marquez, erin mcpike at the white house, nick valencia in atlanta covering the social media response. we have hln legal analyst joey jackson with us. >> we begin with miguel marquez. there are so many gathering outside of the church. this church is not going to hold the number of people who want to be part of this event. how is that the we're able to even see it this morning? how will it be broadcast and shared with the community? >> reporter: the church is a
6:03 am
nondenominational christian church. they have a webcam in there. that will be shared with the world. along the out where there will be thousands of police officers from around the world who will line that processional route. there will be jumbotron screens spread out over about a half mile. maybe three quarters of a mile to the cemetery where officer ramos will be laid to rest. this has been an extraordinarily tough time for nypd and for the city itself. people in this neighborhood who have been prepare forge this for days now talked to us about how it has affected them. >> my heart was torn into pieces and my thoughts and prayers are with the families as much as they hurt we hurt with them. >> especially with the protests and people yelling and screaming in their faces and i wouldn't be able to do what they do. and i give them a lot of credit. >> it will be a relatively short
6:04 am
funeral. about an hour long. the vice president will speak, the police commissioner will speak and the mayor will speak. perhaps most important of the three is mayor bill de blasio who will speak. his relationship with new york city police, especially the beat cops, those on the street, has been tested in recent days. and by noon he will be taken about a mile down cypress hills to the cemetery where he will be laid to rest. >> miguel, we're looking at the live pictures of so many of these officers that are lining up and proceeding to go inside. i know from your vantage point it looks like you are in front of the church. but have you seen some of the dignitaries, some of the people that we are expecting to speak, whether that be the vice president or some of the brass within the police force or family members who might be trying to get there a little bit early? >> reporter: we have not seen any of that. we're pushed back to a parking lot just off the church here.
6:05 am
we can see just a steady stream of police officers that are entering from the north on cypress hills street all the way down to the cemetery. these are such -- of such scale it's hard to get a sense. i'm looking down myrtle avenue. all i can see is a wall of blue coming down myrtle avenue as police officers stream in from that direction as well. all of them dressed in their finest, finest uniforms, their formal uniforms for this event. and if you look that way down the church there is another entrance around the side so i know that family and perhaps the vice president will be entering through there. it is a -- it's a massive scene out here and it is likely to get -- it will get bigger and it will only become bluer and bluer as the day goes on. you will have bag pipes playing, you'll have an incredible show
6:06 am
of sorrow and emotion and outpouring that is hard to compare to any other service that i've seen. >> and miguel, we know that this is a very difficult time for the police officers and as well as the family of ramos, but do we expect that there's going to be a tone of defiance perhaps in light of the environment that has been created the last couple weeks and months when it comes to some of the tension between the police and the community? >> reporter: yeah, no is the simple answer i think. i think everybody now is beyond that. they are focused on the work at hand, the fact that the mayor will be speaking at this will go a long way toward quelling some of that divisiveness we've seen in recent days. the vice president coming here shows that the level at which this affair is being taken, the family has just spoken with just heart aching beauty about their
6:07 am
father who was a member of this church for 14 years, was training to become a chaplain. everything about him in his work as a police officer was an extension of his work from this church. so i don't think that there will be that tainting of this particular event with that. i know that there are protests later in the day about racism and police force that will happen later in the day in new york. i doubt those will be as for sifrous and angry as they were in days past. >> miguel, thank you. we're going to be following miguel's post from his position outside the church as we see so many of those gathered to pay their respects. he brings up a good point, that is that we've been part of -- it's part after national conversation, a discussion we've been having about the role of the police and really highlighting in ramos and his partner the extraordinary work that the men and women do to protect our community as well. >> we're going to continue to
6:08 am
have the conversation about healing and will this conversation lead to a change in a relationship between police and the communities that they work for. i want to bring in erin mcpike at the white house. miguel marquez mentioned that vo biden will be there speaking at the service today. there was criticism immediately after the murder of these two officers of mayor de blasio and criticism of the president. but the vice president has a different relationship some would say, with law enforcement community. >> reporter: victor, that's right. that dates back to his time in the senate. he worked on the crime bill and also secured some funding for some police units so he is known to have a better relationship some would say, with law enforcement. and police advocates have said that it's a good move to send him because as you mentioned, there has been some criticism of the administration, of course
6:09 am
president obama has talked about demilitarizing some of these police units in the wake of controversy over that. but also there has been additional controversy because president obama and attorney general eric holder have both talked about how they are going to extra lengths to sort of warn african-american children that they need to be more cautious of dealing with law enforcement, and people are saying critics are saying that that language is kind of divisive, that all children and all people really, should be more respectful of law enforcement. so, there's more criticism there, also the task force that you mentioned in trying to improve relation, they haven't put rank and file police officers on that task force so it will be interesting today to see how vice president biden reaches out to the law enforcement community and his remarks. >> of course we will broadcast that live courtesy of the signal being sent out by christ tabernacle. the church where officer ramos
6:10 am
was a member and one week ago this time he was a member of the life group ministries and the marriage ministry until last saturday afternoon when a man walked up to the cruiser in which he was sitting with his partner, and shot both of them in the head, killing them. we'll of course cover -- continue to cover all that's happening on the ground in queens. erin mcpike at the white house and miguel marquez standing outside there. >> there is another element, police say they have arrested two more people for making threats against officers, bringing that total to nine. the two latest arrests announced friday include a man accused of walking into a precinct and harassing and threatening officers. police arrested another man for making verbal threats to an off-duty officer wearing his uniform. i want to bring in legal analyst and criminal defense attorney joey jackson joining us now. let's talk about this. we're having a discussion
6:11 am
whether or not this is appropriate and what is the bar when it comes to harassing or threatening against the police. one of these men made a gun gesture with his hands at an officer. so talk about the thresholds here. what is considered a real threat, and what perhaps might be an expression of concern and real reaction perhaps overreaction, to some of these things that are being done. >> sure. good morning. you know at the end of the day we're a nation of laws and certainly there are many powerful feelings about the police and perhaps overaggressive policing in communities and there are protests behind that and those are healthy for a democratic process, perhaps to change things. but you cannot engage in activities that are designed to threaten people, so what does that mean? you know, suzanne t supreme court of the united states is taking up that very issue and they are drawing the following distinction. they are drawing the distinction between the intent of the sender of the message, to the
6:12 am
perception of the receiver of the message. in other words, does it turn on criminality that s what i intend as a person who puts that message out there, or, does it turn on what i perceive as a perceiver of the message. so the supreme court is evaluating that very thing. however, in the absence of that, what the law says is that if you engage in communication with the intent to harass or annoy it's a crime. that's a broad standard. because it's brad that's classified as a misdemeanor which is a crime punishable by up to a year. the bar elevates higher in the event that you intend and you communicate something, through coercion and it's -- there is a reasonable fear of imminence that you are going to carry it out, that becomes a terroristic threat which is a felony which is punishable by up to seven years in jail in new york so. even though first amendment rights to engage in activities
6:13 am
and express ourselves we need to be careful how we express ourselves because if you cross that bar it becomes a crime, not just artistic expression. >> and joey, i want you to know and remind our viewers, these are live pictures on the ground in queens outside christ tabernacle church and this is where you see so many of those police officers that you are talking about who maybe some feel a sense of threat and concern because of the high tensions of potentially the highest since the 70s, between the community there, we heard people say, and the nypd. we have been looking, the police have been looking, fbi looking at those who use social media, to express themselves and there have been people who have been arrested for making potential threats against officers. tell us what's happening there. is there a new landscape in social media people are combing through and seeing a threat against some of these women and men in blue.
6:14 am
>> there really is. and remember, with the advent of social media you can instantly convey a message through facebook, through twitter, instagram. as a result of that the police are taking those threats seriously. why? because there was a threat that was made as we know, that was very offensive with regard to the police that resulted in two lives being lost. and we're seeing a funeral for one of them today so. the police are evaluating social media and yes, again people can express themselves and in fact the case before the supreme court now, there was discussion during oral argument earlier this month about m and m, but the court is saying look, a threat a threat. the reality is how is it perceived, how is that message despite the fact that it's conveyed, how is it received. so like obscenity, there may be different definitions how we define obscenity. at the end of the day we know it when we see it.
6:15 am
so, there is a fine line between social media and how you express yourselves. if you cross that line giving the perception that you intend to alarm, harass, intimidate or carry out an imminent threat it become withes a crime and it's punishable by jail. >> all right. joey jackson, thank you very much. i remind our viewers what we're watching. wake victor and i are watching as you see the thousands of people who are just beginning to gather, there are some people who were here several hours ago early into the morning, as they line up, some will be inside the church, others outside. to pay their respects to raphael ramos. you can see the police cruiser there. and just the numbers, the sheer numbers is extraordinary. >> 25,000, maybe more, 25,000 officers expected to be here. part of this sea of blue. let's go to miguel marquez outside the church where this funeral will be held at the top
6:16 am
of the hour. miguel, we learned in the last couple days since this tragedy that officer ramos was hours away from becoming a lay chaplain, graduating from the community crisis chaplain program. we see all of the officers, we remember that each one of these has a story, is part of a family, is part of a community. what more are you learning about officer ramos? >> reporter: well, look. this is why so many have come out here and why this one has become so important to the individuals who are gathering here. nypd always makes a great show and always comes together with their own when this happens, but we are seeing uniforms from different police agencies around the country, from states and federal agencies. there are police agencies from canada and others represented here. if you look down myrtle avenue they are all really starting to
6:17 am
pour in now. and then lining cypress hill street down toward the cemetery. officer ramos, 40 years old, had a marriage since '93, two kids, his oldest son justin is a sophomore in college. that university has offered to pay the rest of his tuition until he graduates. the new york yankees has now offered to pay tuition for both of the kids. the youngest is only 13. the officer has been here -- >> i want to jump in for a second and just tell people that we're seeing at the center of our screen new york police commissioner william bratton, who is mourning with the rest of the department. i want to read something that he sent out to -- it's an internal memo. i'm going to read part of it. they say that joy cometh in the morning that the darkness gives way to the day but that is small
6:18 am
comfort now. for any who need them the department has resources to help you with your pain. avail yourself of them. mourn and remember. but he goes on to say, that we will move forward and we will keep this city safe. we are the thin blue thread that binds new york together and we shall not be broken. >> that message sent out to the thousands and thousands of members of the new york police department at any given time. there are 6 or 7,000 on duty at the time. again, william bratton there, the commissioner, the mayor, bill de blasio will be attending this morning and the vice president, joe biden will be there. they will all speak this morning at the funeral for officer raphael ramos killed a week ago today. we'll take a quick break. we'll be right back. the holiday season is here,
6:19 am
which means it's time for the volkswagen sign-then-drive event. for practically just your signature, you could drive home for the holidays in a german-engineered volkswagen. like the sporty, advanced new jetta... and the 2015 motor trend car of the year all-new golf. if you're wishing for a new volkswagen this season... just about all you need is a finely tuned... pen. hurry in to the sign then drive event and get a five-hundred dollar new year's bonus on select new volkswagen models. offer ends january 2nd. no question about that. but your erectile dysfunction - that could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right.
6:20 am
you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, as it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess. side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache or muscle ache. to avoid long term injury, get medical help right away for an erection lasting more than four hours. if you have any sudden decrease or loss in hearing or vision, or any allergic reactions like rash, hives, swelling of the lips, tongue or throat, or difficulty breathing or swallowing, stop taking cialis and get medical help right away. ask your doctor about cialis for daily use and a free 30-tablet trial. ok, so, what would you what do you need?pany? i need problem solving skills. i got through high school without a car, a phone, or a computer. no college degree though. not yet, but life's taught me a lot, and i'm ready for more.
6:21 am
well, you're not the typical kind of candidate that i hire, but you are exactly what i'm looking for. [narrator] your company could be missing out on the candidates it needs most. learn how to find a great pool of untapped talent at gradsoflife.org. you are looking at live pictures, this from the scene of the shooting where there are millions of flowers that have
6:22 am
been laid there in honor and respect. memorialize officer raphael ramos as well as his slain colleague wenjin liu. both of them killed at that site. there are so many people who are marking this day, it was exactly one week ago that these two officers were gunned down inside of their police cruiser in cold blood and so many people around the country want to acknowledge their family, acknowledge the family's loss and pain, not only the family but also the many police officers, the men and women in blue who gather outside of christ tabernacle church. you see the media setting up as they get ready to see this service that will take place in about 30 minutes or so. dignitaries who will be arriving. we saw police commissioner bill bratton making his way in front of the church. we are expecting the vice president joe biden as well to be one of the speakers and of
6:23 am
course people widely anticipating the mayor, mayor bill de blasio, to speak, rather controversial and sensitive subject at the time because of the tension that is being felt between the nypd and the mayor during this difficult time. new york city mourning the loss of those two officers. i want to bring in dean with our affiliate new york one and he is outside of the church. if you would, just tell us who is there, set the scene for us. what is the mood? >> reporter: well, definitely solemn mood here this morning in queens in front of the christ tabernacle church. when we have these funerals across the country you hear the term a sea of blue. that is exactly what we have he here. we're going to look over, look at all of these officers, not only from the nypd but from police departments across new
6:24 am
york state and from across the country have gathered here, one gentleman holding up a sign that says god bless the nypd. a number of dignitaries are starting to arrive here as well. i believe the mayor is arriving shortly. and i may be seeing his vehicle pull up. we also know that the vice president joe biden is expected to be here as well for this funeral. although we have thousands of nypd officers here, many of them will have to obviously travel back to this area for the funeral of officer ramos' partner, officer wenjin liu, his funeral not scheduled yet. we're hearing they are waiting for some of his family members to arrive from china. so definitely a solemn moment. they are playing music over the loud speakers on the streets here in queens. of course, everyone cannot fit into the church here so they have set up monitors and speakers along the street so that the officers can hear what's going on.
6:25 am
mayor bill de blasio arriving right now. you may not be able to see him with the camera shot. from where i'm standing i can see him here with his wife, the first lady. he is walking across, should be right in front of our camera right now. and just a few moments. as he walks with his wife right there. you can see mayor de blasio coming across the screen perhaps i believe on the other side of this sign that says god bless the nypd. he's walking obviously mayor de blasio very tall so you can see him above the crowd walking to the church christ tabernacle church. and it's just something that so many of these nypd officers, think don't want to attend ceremonies like this because it reminds them that it could be any one of them from anywhere in the country. i actually spoke to one officer, her son is actually graduating from the nypd academy on monday.
6:26 am
he will be a full-fledged officer on monday. she wanted him to be here for this funeral to see the reality of the job. >> just want to jump in here -- sorry to interrupt here with a moment that we want to share with our audience. it's an important one here. you see the mayor with his wife and they are talking with the commissioner, the police commissioner bill bratton, just arriving there moments ago in front of the church. and victor, you know, we saw that sign that also said dump de blasio. that was kind of a pointed sign, in support of the police but also not in support of the mayor. just talk a lit basically the tension that we have seen. this is a very significant moment. >> there has been so much criticism of mayor de blasio especially after the shooting, but the criticism started before that with his comments about the conversation he has with his wife and his son who is bi-racial, about interactions with police. we saw when the mayor went to
6:27 am
the hospital and the officers s turned their back on the mayor. then the plane with the banner "we turn our backs on you de blasio" i'm paraphrasing. we have reverend butts who has been critical of the mayor. you said recently that the mayor is not showing the leadership that new york needs. what do you mean by that? >> you got division, you got the police on one side, and you've got the community on another. today we are mourning the death of two of new york's finest, and protesters will be in the streets a few hours after that demanding justice for eric garner. and there needs to be a force in our city who can help us to settle down, kill the rhetoric
6:28 am
of mr. lynch and stop the finger pointing at the nypd, and begin to address the problems that are dividing our communities. >> the mayor would argue that he's done all that you actually detailed there. he's asked for a cooling down period, a moratorium on the protests while the city mourns. he has obviously called this a tragedy for everyone. but do you believe that he is not strong enough to do this, that his words are tainted because his comments about his conversation with his wife and son? what more would you like the mayor to do that he hasn't done? >> i think his words were not well chosen. you can't call for a moratorium on the protests. the two events are really unrelated. and, you can't point a finger at the entire police department as
6:29 am
if every person in a uniform on the street was our enemy. that's not the case. we're talking about individuals who break the law, who disrespect the community, and display racist behavior toward certain elements of our society. these persons need to be removed. and leadership would say that directly, forcefully, and it would be done. >> you know, the monday after the officers were killed you mentioned not calling for moratorium on the protests, the monday after these officers were killed the group ferguson action tweeted the nypd wants to use this tragedy to silence this movement, not gonna happen. and protests continued that night. you say that the mayor should not have call forward a moratorium on the protests. do you believe these protests should continue this weekend?
6:30 am
>> absolutely. because they are totally unrelated. the men and women who are in these protests also understand the importance of a strong police department. however -- >> i would challenge that as you finish your answer i apologize but you say they are totally unrelated. the person who shot officers ramos and liu cited specifically, they take one of ours, we take two of theirs and used hash tags mentioning the death of eric garner. so the killer here offered the connection. >> well, the killer is a deranged crazed person. and you can't paint the entire community and the honest, sincere protesters by the deranged comments of one person. now you know that's not objective reporting. >> he offered the connection,
6:31 am
sir. i'm not connecting the protest to that. >> he is not a well person. >> he said that's why he did it. >> he's not a well person. >> i just think it's not true to say that there is no connection. >> and then he took his own life. i think it's terrible to paint those protesters who are concerned about justice by the actions of one deranged man. >> that's your brush, pastor, not mine. >> i don't paint the nypd with a broad brush by the actions of several of their police officers. >> reverend calvin butts, we know that there are a lot of people say that they are not going to be protesting this weekend in honor of recognizing these officers. are you getting any other information otherwise that there will be protests this weekend? >> we have said continually that these protests will continue, and they will escalate. but we should also make it clear that we are saddened and
6:32 am
outraged about the killing of these police officers. this is something that has been said consistently and we feel to go back to your original question, that there ought to be someone and we think it should be the mayor, who says i see this, and we can stop this divisive rhetoric. >> all right. >> and i think he should be able to make lynch come out and say look, you know, my remarks were totally off kilter. and we can bring our city together. let's give new york a chance. >> work we're going to have to leave it there, reverend calvin butts, we appreciate your time and perspective this morning. we want to go back to miguel marquez who is on the ground right there watching the scene unfold outside of the church. and miguel, give us a sense what if the tone is there.
6:33 am
we have seen the mayor, we have seen the police commissioner, and we see so many officer who is have gathered this morning to pay their respects. what does it look like and feel like from where you are? >> reporter: i think we will see how things progress the mayor showed up a while ago, we did hear a couple of boos, it wasn't clear that they knew the mayor was about 30, 40 feet away though they possibly have a clear view of the front of the church. the view of the church is impressive. the number of police officers have really poured in here. they are streaming in down myrtle avenue, and then they are telling them, the ones that can't get into the church or get on myrtle avenue where the church is, to line up down cypress hills street which is where the cortege will go to the funeral. they have taken the bulk of the flowers out of the church now because they have -- the flowers have been streaming in for two days now into this church.
6:34 am
they piled a lot of them on part of the funeral cortege with the city of new york police badge over the top of it all. and then the hearse will follow that. it is somber, they are playing music over the loud speakers, there will be three jumbotrons along the funeral route here. and then we've just seen the bag pipe players go by in full dress uniform. it is a chilling thing to hear them play during these events. it is moving beyond words, the number of officers here. we saw a large contingent from massachusetts state police come by, we've seen folks from canada come by. and then clearly just thousands of new york city police officers out here as well. >> miguel, we know that ramos leaves behind his wife and his two sons, justin and jayden.
6:35 am
justin a sophomore in college, and jayden just 13 years old. is there a special place where we expect to see those family members showing up shortly, and can you talk little about some of the relatives and the friends, those closest to ramos, who will be arriving shortly? >> reporter: the family was during the wake yesterday able to get in on the side door to this church. this is a former movie theater here in queens. they turned it into sort of a big nondenominational christian church. we're not sure they will enter the front. presumably they will enter where the mayor and bill bratton came in through the front of the church. and look, the family has really come together. the extended family went to the memorial at the 84th precinct in brooklyn over the christmas holiday, to see their father's
6:36 am
locker, to meet the friends and his colleagues at the 84th precinct. and they met police officers at this memorial that has just grown enormously. as the protests i think set in relief, the frustration that some new yorkers have with the police, it only added to the sense of despair and sorrow and upset that the new york police department and people who support them have. and it really, it really caused a reaction. we're seeing that now here as well. you have officers on horseback now coming in. they will be part of the funeral cortege that will carry officer ramos down to the cemetery on cypress hill street. and just the outpouring is a reflection of how new yorkers see how things have gone recently. it will be very, very
6:37 am
interesting to listen to the mayor's words. he has a very tough job t police commissioner who was hired by this mayor, but was somebody that was associated with the tough policing that broken window policy where no stone was left unturned, that so angered and upset so many in the african-american and latino communities here in new york city because of the number of arrests, the stop and frisk policies, that commissioner has had a very tough week this week, trying to bridge both sides, trying to remain loyal to the man who hired him but trying to keep his force together in a time where it has been shaken. >> and you see the thousands upon thousands of officers who not only serve the city of new york but we know jetblue flew in almost 700 officers from across the country to show their support for the family and to stand there in solidarity with the family and the city of new
6:38 am
york. you mentioned the words of mayor bratton -- sorry, mayor de blasio, and what he will say today. his words since the murders of these two officers have been conciliatory, and offering sympathy and standing in solidarity with this family. we'll broadcast those remarks from the mayor, from the police commissioner, also vice president joe biden. we'll take a moment to pause here and come back.
6:39 am
6:40 am
6:41 am
you're looking at queens, new york outside of christ tabernacle church. a painting of raphael ramos who served on the 84th precinct for 14 years. a tribute to him outside of that church and somebody who was a big part of that, a big part of that church as an usher, as someone who was a minister to those getting married and someone who would simply walk people to their seats, sometimes the elderly, sometimes handicapped. his faith was a big part of his life as so many have expressed this morning. >> served also on the life group and was hours away from becoming a lay chaplain, grad weight from the community christ chaplain program inside the new york police department, so someone
6:42 am
who saw that he was doing and his family saw he was doing god's work in his work in uniform. >> it was something he considered part of his job, his ministry, even his face book page expressed that at the top saying if your way isn't working try god's way. it was really a big, big part of his life. and we want to see if we can go to rosa flores along the route. we have seen the thousands and thousands of people, many of them law enforcement from throughout the country, and rosa, if you can hear us there, who have you talked to? what are they saying to you this morning? rosa can't hear us yet. we're going to get back to her. okay. we understand it's a delay. go ahead. tell us who you have spoken to
6:43 am
and what it looks like from where you are along the procession. >> reporter: i can tell you that there are a lot of heavy hearts here, suzanne. i talked to a lot of the police officers from some of the departments around the country, and even from canada. and i can tell you that it's really difficult, it's tough for them to be here but they tell me that it's important for them to be here, to show solidarity. solidarity at a difficult time. it's a very tough and painful time in america when there is a lot of division and they told me that one of the most difficult things about the experience is seeing the family of officer ramos because they can all identify with that. now, take a look around me because you'll see that a lot of these police officers are from different parts of the country. and they are paying their respects, a lot of them saying that it's difficult, that they leave their communities only to come and pay respects to an
6:44 am
officer that was ambushed, that was killed. and in the line of duty which is what they do, day in and day out. but take a look at these streets. they are shoulder to shoulder in blue. men and women who give everything they have day in and day out in these communities. some of these men and women patrol some of the most dangerous communities in america. i talked to one officer in particular who told me you know, we leave our house in the morning hoping that we can come back at night. and reunite with our families. we don't know that's going to happen every single day for all of us. and that's the reason why they are all here, because they know that it's difficult for the family of officer ramos. we're going to stay here. we know that the procession will come up this street and we'll be here to show you and share those
6:45 am
pictures with you. >> all right. rosa along the procession route, thank you so much. we want to bring in now former fbi snr director and analyst tom fuentes. we've been speaking about what these developments mean and i want to ask you in a personal note taking the fbi hat off if you will for a moment, you used to be someone who would patrol the streets and used to be an officer yourself. what is this moment mean for you? emotionally. >> suzanne, it is an emotional moment because it makes you think of i'm not just thinking about my career in law enforcement, but all of my friends and relatives, my father was a career police officer, my brother was a career illinois state trooper. and you think about that i could have lost a loved one, i have lost friends. and you know, in law enforcement is dangerous, and it's difficult and over the last few months the impression that most of my
6:46 am
friends have that are still in law enforcement and that i have, has been that there has been a growing disrespect, let's say, or a growing profiling of police officers that police officers are brutal, or racist, or behave improperly on the street, or intend when they wake up in the morning to shoot a black man. i heard protesters say that. you know, when they hear protesters on the streets of new york chanting that we want dead police, it's gone too far. and that rhetoric as the reverend mentioned earlier, yeah, the shooter was deranged. but he was inspired by this rhetoric and i think there's no doubt about it. and his instagram saying rest in peace michael brown, rest in peace eric garner, i'm going to put pigs in a blanket, i'm going to give pigs wings, that is related to everything that's been said in public, the public discourse over the past couple of months and it's just for some people apparently "an
6:47 am
inconvenient truth." >> the reverend talked about the protests and that they should continue this weekend, the mayor has asked for a cooling off period, a bit of a moratorium while these families mourn. what do you think? >> i think it's wrong. i think that yes, it's our constitutional right and just because you have the right to do it doesn't necessarily mean you should do it. and i think that to me it just shows disrespect and i would just say if you want to receive respect, you should give respect. if you want to receive empathy and have -- be treated in a sensitive manner show empathy. the issues as many public officials have said these issues have gone on for decades, well, if that's true, then a few more days of saying let's just wait till these funerals are concluded, let's give for a short pause and honor the new york city police department,
6:48 am
honor officer ramos, and his family, officer liu and his family, know, would that really affect the movement to at least show that kind of respect for a couple of days. my opinion, i think it show s disrespect. >> we want you to stay with us. we have more questions. you can offer contest text having been a uniformed officer who stood outside after church after loved one who has been killed in the line of duty. we'll take a quick break. again in about 10 minutes the service scheduled to begin for officer raphael ramos. killed while in the line of duty sitting in a cruiser with his partner one week ago today. [ male announcer ] you wouldn't leave your car unprotected.
6:49 am
but a lot of us leave our identities unprotected. nearly half a million cars were stolen in 2012, but for every car stolen, 34 people had their identities stolen. identity thieves can steal your money, damage your credit, and wreak havoc on your life. why risk it when you can help protect yourself from identity theft with one call to lifelock, the leader in identity-theft protection? lifelock actively patrols your sensitive, personal information every second of every day, helping to guard your social security number, your bank accounts and credit, even the equity in your home -- your valuable personal assets. look. your bank may alert you
6:50 am
to suspicious activity on your credit or debit card. but that still may leave you vulnerable to big losses if a thief opens new accounts in your name or decides to drain your savings, home equity, or retirement accounts. and your credit report may only tell you after your identity's been compromised. but lifelock is proactive protection and watches out for you in ways that banks and credit-card companies alone just can't, giving you the most comprehensive identity theft protection available. whenever the patented lifelock identity alert system detects a threat to your identity, you'll be notified by phone, text, or e-mail, helping you to stop identity thieves before they do damage. you even get a $1 million service guarantee. that's right. if your identity is ever compromised, lifelock will spend up to $1 million on experts to help restore it. you wouldn't leave your car unprotected. don't leave your money, credit, and good name unprotected. call now, and try lifelock risk-free for 60 days.
6:51 am
act now, and get this document shredder free. that's a $29 value. ♪ or go to lifelock.com/go. try lifelock risk-free for 60 days and get this document shredder free -- a $29 value -- when you use promo code go. call now. and these are live pictures. we actually just saw the governor of new york, governor cuomo, walking past the cameras towards the church into the building. and that has been a morning, obviously, where you have some of the highest level officials here from the state and from the city. also from the country expecting vice president joe biden as well to be attending. not only attending but speaking in this funeral service. i want to bring back tom
6:52 am
fuentes. it was very important moment this morning when we saw bill de blasio and commissioner bratton talking in front of the church. this is a moment that people needed to see. and they have been seeing these two more and more together over the last 48 hours to try to mend, if you will, some real tensions between the police department, the police union and the mayor himself. what do you hope comes of this? what needs to be done here to heal these individuals and this city? >> well i hope the officials, you know, from both sides talk. and i hope the mayor and his staff and the commissioner, as well as the leaders of the police organizations such as the patrolman benevolent association that's been very vocal and other police associations, you know, will sit down and discuss many of the ideas that they don't share right now. and that maybe they can come to
6:53 am
some understanding and some level of mutual respect in the future. >> beyond this conversation between the mayor and the commissioner, you have tens of thousands of officers. we see in the background. i don't know how we missed this, mayor giuliani walking in. but you have these thousands of officers who were there and we know that nine men have been arrested in the weeks since these murders. someone rushed into the 28th precinct and harassed and assaulted officers. others made threats on social media. how do these officers compartmentalize that and leave that inside the building and when they go out into the community not take that out on the people they are serving? >> i think victor it is because they are used to this over the long run. you hear about this from police academy training on, you know, that you possibly may be
6:54 am
targeted because you are wearing a uniform and no other reason. you know, one of the expressions you don't fear the bullet that has your name on it. you fear the thousands of bullets that are addressed to whom it may concern, meaning any police officer will do. and i think that, you know, they face that every day. they understand that. and don't take it out on the people that they try to serve and assist and protect. >> tom, do you think there's been a real sense of soul searching over the last couple of weeks among police officers and law enforcement individual who is perhaps see both sides of this. that this is not such a black and whitiise issue. and there are times when police are aggressive and other terms certainly where police have been the target of people going to after them. it seems as if the rhetoric has gotten so hot that you need voices that recognize both. >> you are right.
6:55 am
the police say that people not have to the police profile various member, ethnic group, racial groups, but yet the police feel that they are being profiled. yes there have been some incident where is the police have been over aggressive or an officer has been a bully and either took a life when he shouldn't have. and i'm not saying just in the cases in the last couple months. just in general there are cases where officers have killed someone that they should not have or brutal with someone they should not have. and most police officers want bullies and people like that limited from the ranks and don't want them amongst them. because when they act up and do one of these terrible things it is in the public eye and taints all place to be bad. so they don't want that either. and our right there is soul
6:56 am
searching of what can be done even within the ranks to try to eliminate people that do that. >> tom thank you very much. we want to go to to the church now. we are being told that vice president biden has arrived. >> he's walking right next to us. he said this will not be exactly pretty television but i can tell you the vice president is going to walk by us in just a moment. mr. vice president, how are you? good to see you here. amazing what you will see in new york some days. vice president joe biden whose attending the funeral, started off down mirtal avenue. his car was able to drop him off down there and with his entourage walked through the throng of police officers there to the front of the church here. and he will be entering there.
6:57 am
i can say other than seeing the vice president five feet away from me this morning, to look down cypress hill street here and see the throng of police officers, the number of, the glinting of the sun off their hats and uniforms, it is a sight to behold. the bag pipe players have been showing up. when they play at these affairs it is haunting and incredibly sorrowful. so it is going to be quite a service today. only about an hour long. the vice president now that he's here, he will be speaking. the police commissioner will be speaking and i'm sure members of the families and some of the police buddies will be speaking as well. but a fairly short service. about an hour long and then the processiontery and then he will be buried at noon. >> we just saw vice president
6:58 am
biden head inside for the funeral of the officer rafael ramos. we'll take a quick break and back.
6:59 am
7:00 am
you are looking at live pictures. queens, new york, christ tabernacle church. this is where he was a member of the church for 14 years. serving as an usher, someone who administered those who were getting married. described by many in the community as the person of faith. who put that first and foremost as well as his family and felt that his policing was a duty. a duty that was one that was religious in some ways to serve the community. and you are looking at those live pictures of all the police officers and many of them strangers who have come to pay their respects to this man and to acknowledge and recognize his family as well. >> let's take a look inside the sanctuary here at christ tabernacle church in queens, where i'm sure it is full to capacity. we know that in attendance -- this is the signal that is actually being sent out by the

269 Views

info Stream Only

Uploaded by TV Archive on