. and hello again, welcome back to our viewers in the u.s. and around the world. you've got a new team. we're continuing with these developing stories. i'm natalie allen. ? >> and i'm john vause. >> and indonesia's top rescue official has a bleak description. he says the plane is most likely in his words at the bottom of the sea. meantime ships and planes from singapore, malaysia and indonesia are searching for any sign of the flight.

>> it was traveling to singapore when it went missing with 162 people on board. now the families of the passengers and the crew can only wait hoping for any hint that their parents, their kids spouses, siblings friends, somehow they are still alive. the locker this goes on though the less the chances are that someone will be found alive. >> absolutely. not one sighting of anything of that airplane. 140 of the passengers are from indonesia. airasia has vowed to keep the families informed and help them through this situation, which we've seen these pictures before. we've seen this video before. we're back here again. >> so hauntingly similar to everything we saw, what ten months ago. >> exactly. except for different circumstances, of course nin that cockpit. we have more on the rescue efforts. >> reporter: we're now several hours into the second day of searching for missing flight

8501 and still no sign of where that plane may be. just behind my at surabaya airplane is the first media briefing of the day, and the officials are going through the assets being deployed from several countries now, several ships and aircraft involved in that search. and just before this news conference started, the families of the passengers were also briefed by airasia officials. that was closed to the media, but being able to see, at least, the reaction of the faces of some of those families. they were grim faced, showing very very little emotion to what they were being told. what we do know is there was a press conference in jakarta where it was suggested that the plane is now at the bottom of the sea, that's focusing on the fact where the plane's last known coordinates were and where it could have gone from that are and also taking into account the

weather conditions. however, this is not confirmed. this is still very much a search and rescue mission for flight 8501. andrew stevens, cnn, surabaya, indonesia. >> andrew there mentioned the weather conditions. it wasn't ideal at the time. a lot of people suggesting that it may have had a role in this latest airline disaster. >> pedram vauf hairjauf herry is with us. all we heard over and over is these planes don't fly into thunderstorms. and they're built to maintain you know take a lot. and at the same time though, this area of the world is just getting hammered with these seasonal thunderstorms. >> absolutely. you know you look back just the last 30 days this is easily the wettest place on our plan net that time period. just a few hundred miles north of this region you're talking about 1 million people being

displaced because of tremendous rainfall on the order of several feet. notice the complex of thunderstorms right there over the java sea, portions of indonesia are the most active on our planet. some in africa some scattered about parts of the atlantic ocean. nothing as impressive as what we have over nooetz. the reason for that is the intertropical convergence zone fancy term for the winds coming together from the southern hemisphere and the northern hemisphere. it forces the air to rise and creates massive thunderstorms, and these are the thunderstorms that potentially led to the issue we have with this aircraft disappearing in the last 30 hours. thunderstorms generally in the 20,000 to 30,000 height area. we know the pilot requested to go up from 32,000 to 38,000 feet. this is not a storm system that

one, the aircraft itself would be able to get up and over. the maximum ceiling is around 40,000 feet on this airbus. the height of this storm 50,000. there are plenty of updrafts and downdrafts. here's the large scale thunderstorm we are talking about. notice the last point of known contact right there. and notice the clearing in between that. that is a telltale sign that a mature thunderstorm has fallen upon itself. and it's a likely scenario that could lead to a disaster but lead to something going downhill very quickly. timely at this hour seeing quiet conditions. i haven't seen quiet conditions in this part of the world in the last several weeks. there are a few more storms trying to develop, but generally speaking much of the java sea

in the clear. if you're watching us from the west coast of the united states the java sea, the surface area of it is about 167,000 square miles, that's equivalent to the state of california. if you're in europe that's equivalent to sweden. in the middle east equivalent to iraq. it's a refined search area that you're going to be looking at you compare that to mh 370 which was at one point equivalent to the united states in trying to find parts of an aircraft this is smaller. the likelihood of finding something in the near future is much better. >> as it went on and on, we thought surely they'll be finding it fairly soon. i'm not saying this sh going to drag on for many many months but a lot of people are saying there are many similarities. >> they were searching in the wrong place at a critical time. >> more similarities with the

air france 447. >> pedram, thank you for that. we talked about the weather now. and the problem was also addressed by the ceo of airasia, tony fernandes. at this point, it is too early to speculate. >> the weather conditions were not good but we don't really want to speculate anything more. obviously, there was storm clouds and pilot had made a request to change altitude. that's as far as we know. we don't want to speculate as to whether weather was a contributor. we really don't though. let's find the aircraft and then do the proper investigation. joining us now via skype, jeffrey phenomenon asthomas. he has more than 40 years of experience covering the aviation industry. he is in perth. thank you for staying with us. the big news we've had over the last couple hours is that the

officials say that they believe the plane is at the bottle ofom of the sea. how did they get to that point? >> that's a very good question. i'm not sure how they got to that evaluation. i guess they've simply said look we know we've lost contact. it's been 24 hours. we've found no debris on the surface. we have no other explanation other than it has crashed into the sea. and unfortunately it's at the bottom of the sea, but it could well be that parts of it are on the surface. it could well be that some people have survived. it could have also crashed into one of the islands that dot the java sea. there are literally thousands of islands in the java sea. so you know without any hard evidence i don't really see how they can make that sort of a claim. >> and if the plane hit the

water and then sunk why has there been no signal coming from the electronic transmitter? shouldn't that have sent out some kind of beacon? >> technically, john you're absolutely right. it should have. i don't have an explanation of why that appears to have failed. it may well have been destroyed in the, in when the airplane impacted the water. or, it just may have malfunctioned. it may be as simple and as tragic as that. >> one thing we're talking about is that these planes routinely try to fly around thunderstorms. they deal with this weather on a fairly regular basis. and when it comes to the a-320, it has sophisticated equipment when it comes to radar, but not the very latest equipment, but does it sometimes have problems with thunderstorms? ? well, look it's a very interesting point. with particularly in relation o to the radar.

if we go back to the 1950s and '60s when weather radar first appeared on airplanes, it was nothing more than a rudimently rain gauge. and we had accidents particularly in the united states, where planes blundered into very bad thunderstorms and were broken up by those thunderstorms. now move on another ten or 20 years. we now have very sophisticated radar, which gives the pilot a really good interpretation and color as we see on the radar. we can pick up on our laptops looking at weather radar for all sorts of cities and whatnot. that's the same sort of picture that a pilot gets. it shows him the intensity or her the intensity, and they fly around these cells. however, when you're getting up to a very high altitude you're reading off a thunderstorm quite often more than likely the return is zero because it's

made up of ice. it's dry. it doesn't give you a return. so therefore, they've developed these very sophisticated, multi-scan radars which scan up and down continuously and hook lyly and look at the base of the thunderstorm interpret the intensity of the rain and moisture at the base of the thunderstorm and interpret that into a 3d model and representation to the pilot and tell him or her you have a major thunderstorm in front of you and this is the dent ofpth of it and these radars can see up to 250 miles. >> one last question jeffrey, while we have you. this is not mh 370. this is not somewhere on the bottom of the indian ocean. this is the java sea, it is shallow, well mapped it is an incredibly bus eye travel route with planes and boats. we're now 37 hours into this. why has there not been any sign

of any debris? why is this taking so long? >> well that's a very good question and you are absolutely right, john it's a very intensely traveled part of the world with aircraft and ships. first of all, yesterday the weather was foul as we know. terrible weather. therefore, that would have hampered visibility for other aircraft or other ships in the area. it would have hampered the ability of the searchers to actually sight this plane. then let's reference to air france 447 that disappeared in june 2009. it took them three days to find the initial debris of that airplane. and then it took two years more to actually find the plane at the bottom of the atlantaic. so it's not as easy as we'd like to think. and when you're traveling at 200 or 300 miles per hour across the

ocean, things can sometimes be very difficult to spot. >> yeah to say the least. i guess we have to keep this in perspective, that it's still a disaster and spread over a very wide area, about 4,000 square kilometers. thank you for be being with us jeffrey thomas with airline ratings.com. >> it's just that we're back here again. that's why this is of particular interest. it is a tragedy to these families and you're right. there are so many questions about why there's been no spotting of anything having to do with this airplane. because i think we're so used to having resources and all kinds of sophistication to -- >> the problem is we're still asking the same questions we were asking nine ten months ago with mh 370. why was there no live tracking in the air, why do we not know where these planes are all the time, why is there no debris spotted, why is there no mayday call no electronic signals

coming. all of these questions are so similar. >> right. even more intriguing, but for these families it's just a disaster for them. we'll continue to track any updates on this story. we have another one that we continue to follow that we began 24 hours ago, the ferry on fire in the adriatic. and people trying to figure out what to do to get off of this ferry. one person jumped to their death.

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there are still no signs of airasia flight 8501 now more than 30 hours after it disappeared. our top story continues to be the search for the plane. ships, planes and helicopters from several countries are now searching a massive area of the java sea, but an indonesian official says the early information leads him to believe that the plane is at the bottle of -- bottle of the sea. airline officials metz privately with passengers' relatives in surabaya indonesia. the plane was traveling from that city to singapore when it vanished. we are following another major story at this hour. hundreds of passengers are enduring freezing temperatures while waiting to be rescued from a ferry that has been burning in

the adriatic sea. >> 55-mile-per-hour winds preventing people from be being rescued. you can appreciate from this video right here rescue teams have been working through the night to pull people off of the ferry. more than 250 have been rescued. but hundreds remain on board the norman atlantic. there are also reports of injuries. >> look at the dramatic video. the fire is now contained. but smoke and weather conditions are hampering rescue efforts. it's one of the most complicated rescues ever taken out at sea. one man died after he jumped or fell from the ferry. >> the fire is believed to have started in the ship's garage area early sunday morning after leaving port in northwestern greece. you can see the blackened ship right there. that is an ominous, ominous picture, video of that ship. joining us on the phone is

barbie nadeau. there are a great number of people here 24 hours later still stuck on that vessel. >> caller: that's right. the italian navy just updated the statistics. they've saved 265 people. 213 are still on board. these people have been out on the outer decks of the ship for now 27 hours. too hot and dangerous to go inside and take cover so never' been out in the elements. as the tugboats came to try to put out the fire people who were standing outside were also sprayed with the water used to try to extinguish the fire. many of them who were rescued complained that the decks of the ship were so hot that it was burning their feet from underneath yet they were so cold standing out in the elements. one can only imagine how terrifying it must be under those conditions but for 213,

the nightmare isn't over yet. they're still out there waiting for someone to rescue them. now that the sun is up here they're expecting to be able to use larger helicopters. everyone who's been rescued in the last 12 hours or so has been airlifted off the ship. overnight they were able to use smaller helicopters with night vision capabilities but they could only take one or two people off at a time. now they are able to move in some larger helicopters and remove five six people at a time. but still it's going to take a long time to get everybody off that ship. natalie. ? . >> yes we can certainly see from the video why it took so long. they're plucking people off one at a time. what about the conditions currently? you describe the people's feet being hot because they're in the midst of the fire but it's freezing outside. and visibility was poor. what are the chances that this ship at any point could it sink? is it listing?

>> caller: well, they say the ship is not listing, and the authorities, because they have the fire contained, say they aren't as worried as they were 12 hours ago when the ship was out of control. right now there are three tugboats that have secured the ship so that it can't move and can't drift as it had been previously, but they don't want to tow the ship in to the port at this point, because while the fire is contained, there are still many, many cars and vehicles and oil rigs in the lower car deck of the ship that could reignite and as such they don't want to disturb or jostle the ship so that it starts the fire again. weather conditions are not letting up. they're expecting major sea storms late this morning and this afternoon in the whole area. all of italy is under this intense winter storm watch. even some of the people who were rescued, they were trying to bring into shore overnight had to be diverted because they couldn't bring the rescue boat into the port in the south of

italy. they had to divert. and the people who finally got off the ship couldn't then even make landfall because of the weather. they were safe and protected but yet they still hadn't hit dry land. those first people who were off the ship were expected to only arrive on the italian soil in the next half hour or so. >> that is unreal. what an ordeal and won't they be happy to finally get on dry land and be safe and warm. barbie nadeau thank you. we'll talk with you again for any more updates but i think that video says it all. >> the person who died the man who fell into the sea, there is a report that is saying he fell into the ocean moments before he was about to be rescued along with his wife. so the timing on that is tragic in so many ways. >> earlier on we were covering this a day ago. people were using their cell phones to call in. >> the accounts are horrendous. >> and wondering should they jump. and you can see from the

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welcome back to our coverage of the missing airasia flight 8501. you know there are going to be so many stories that we're going to hear about who was on that plane. there were 17 no-shows. so they are thanking their lucky stars. >> people saying they were late or missed their flight. we're grateful for that. there were 162 people on board this. and there were a couple of young girls who were friends and their parents were flying to singapore. they were going to spend years with their parents and their daughters, and when they heard that the flight never arrived they went to the airport to find out what happened to their parents. >> mystery clouds its disappearance. we just don't know anything. >> we do know what the officials are saying that they believe

it's at the bottom of the sea. we know the search has been on for 37 hours, and so far they've found nothing. this does resemble in so many ways malaysia airlines 370. it's been gone for ten months now. we take a look at the similarities and the differences and what lessons have been learned. >> there are some disconcerting similarities between the airasia flight and mh 370. but there are important differences as well. flight 370 vanished from civilian radar less than an hour after it took off from kuala lumpur. the airasia flight likewise disappeared from tracking screens less than an hour after departure from surabaya. neither plane sent a distress call. but in the case of the malaysian jetliner it was a perfectly clear, moonless night. the 162 passengers and crew of airasia 8501 were experiences very bad weather.

what sensationalized the case of the malaysian airliners disappearance was that the search was pressed for the better part of a week. >> the mystery of 370. >> cnn broke the news barely 48 hours after the plane had gone missing that malaysia's own military radar showed it was gone from that area within an hour of takeoff. the government had hesitated. critical information was withheld. malaysia airlines didn't tell families flight 370 was even missing until the time it was supposed to be arriving in beijing. many hours after it vanished. families felt deceived. many accused malaysiaen authorities of a cover up. conspiracy theories exploded on the internet, even as officials were belatedly trying to set the record straight, because weather couldn't be a factor for mh 370, many of those theories centered on terrorism, although no link

to terrorism was ever uncovered it was too late. and whatever information what is released by malaysiaen authorities seemed contradictory and meaningless. most passengers were chinese nationals, and china took the unusual step of allowing their families to take to the streets in protest. airasia appears to have learned lessons from the mh 370 tragedy and moved quickly to inform families. nooitz's transport ministry also responded. a passenger manifest list and load list were online within hours. critical questions remain. in the hours and days ahead. radar records and search records may yield answer for the families of airasia flight 8501. the final similarity, neither plane had the kind of gps locater so many experts advocated after the disappearance of mh 370. nearly ten months later, that may be the lesson we haven't learned. jim clancy cnn. there's so much that we

haven't learned about this flight. very different from the last one, but still no mayday call. some similarities in these two stories. coming up here we'll look into the safety record of airasia airlines. it was a budget airlines. no frills. but had a pretty good record. we'll talk about that as we push on here. instead of mailing everyone my vacation photos, i'm saving a ton of time by posting them to my wall. oh, i like

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and welcome back. you're watching our breaking news of continuous live coverage of yet another disaster in asia. i'm natalie allen.

>> and i'm john vause. we'd like to welcome our viewers in the u.s. and around the world. >> and they're searching for another plane in indonesia. ships and aircraft are searching for any trace of airasia flight 8501. the airbus a-320 disappeared on a flight from indonesia to singapore early sunday morning. 162 passengers, all total, 162 passengers and crew on board. >> and those with loved ones on board that flight are desperately hoping for any word. airasia's ceo met privately with some of the families in indonesia. and the airline has promised to keep families up to date on the search and how they can be helped in any way. >> hundreds of passengers are enduring freezing temperatures and waiting to be rescued from this ferry that has been burning in the adriatic sea for more than 24 hours. it left greece and was in route

to italy when a fire broke out. rescue teams have pulled more than 260 people in the ferry. the fire is believed to have started in the ship's garage as it traveled from northern greece to italy. and that video shows you the nightmare of trying to pluck people off one by one from this ship. let's head back now to the search for airasia flight 8501 and the families who are still waiting for answers. will ripley standing by for us in in beijing for us now. this comes almost 10 months since mh 370 disappeared. what has been the reaction there in china? >> reporter: well, there are so many families here in china who know exactly what the 162 families of the airasia missiontry tragedy, whatever word you want to use to call it they know exactly what they're going through, and a lot of them have been talking to the local media. front page news, not to mention

all the network news outlets are going with this. it has brought them back to that day in early march when think learned that mh 370 was not going to arrive here. when they waited at the airplaneort and looked at the board and saw the plane listed as delayed. >> a lot of comparisons are being made to the rescue and the search under way for 370, in this case for 8501 china offering to send assets there as well to this international search. but in terms of search area and the location of where this plane may be this is very different to mh 370. >> reporter: absolutely. during mh 370, china invested a huge amount of resources, sending ships doings everything

they could to locate. right now we know indonesia. singapore and malaysia have search vessels out. the weather conditions have been potentially been causing problems. there are a dozen ships out there, a smaller search under way right now in a smaller search area than what we saw during flight 370. but we know the seventh fleet of the navy is standing by. and china as well. this depending on how long this takes it could turn into a major international effort and there's more information sharing and efficient and quick information sharing this time around than we saw during flight 370. i was thinking when i was in a navy p-3 we couldn't take off because we couldn't get

clearance to go over indonesian airspace. they have systems in place to do this more quickly and hopefully locate this plane and get answers for the families waiting right now and don't know what they're going to be told. >> sure. i guess the only major news we're clinging to at this point is that word interest officials that they believe, there's speculation and conjecture that the plane is at the bottom of the sea, has that changed the way the search is carried out? originally it was in those four areas they were dividing out. are they focusing their efforts more? >> reporter: they're looking at the radar data, every piece of information they have the flight path the weather conditions the pilot's request to increase altitude and of course the radar, the pings, the transponders on the actual aircraft. they put all that together. because they're not getting a ping from the flight data recorder, they have to base

everything again, on a highly educated guess, much like mh 370, except for the fact with mh 370, the transponders were turned off. it dipped to a lower altitude and you're talking about a very remote stretch of the indian ocean where really it is statistically very very difficult to find an aircraft. it's difficult to find an aircraft in any situation, but certainly in the case of mh 370. it is a much smaller area. the java sea has a lot of traffic, both air traffic and boats on the water. so there are more eyes that will be looking. and as for the families the bottom of the sea, that is heart-wrenching for them to hear but they are hoping that people survived. is the plane floating somewhere. >> and we have educated guesses. will ripley in beijing, thank you very much. what we can do is look at

the background of airasia. it is based in malaysia and flies to about 22 countries. it has affiliates in thailand the philippines, india and indonesia which was operating the plane that went missing. indonesia airasia has a fleet of 30 airbus a-320s. airasia has been in business since 2001. so relatively newer airline. for more on airasia's safety record we're joined on the phone by the transport reporter. it's been around since 2001 so it's relatively a newer airline, but it has had a good reputation. has it always had that? >> caller: yes. it's been a good, well-run airline. it's profitable. and there have been no safety issues with the airline so far. this is actually the first major

incident. >> so what do we know about this specific airplane then that was being flown, as far as how old this airplane was, when it was last when it last went through maintenance? what do we know? >> caller: this was delivered to the airline in 2008 so by airplane age standards, it was a pretty young, pretty new aircraft. it did undergo its last maintenance check in november is what the airline told us. so they would be i don't see any problems with any of that. it was a relatively new aircraft. and there would be no problem with the airplane itself. >> we only had this weather question that we're all kind of talking about, because that was the one communication that the pilots made that inld kwated they might be having a little bit of difficulty maneuvering, vectoring around these thunderstorms. what have we learned in the past 24 hours about the pilots?

they've been identified right? >> caller: that's right. they have been identified and this is the fact that they did document some of it and that's the only thing we have to go by right now. but till the aircraft is found or the wreck is found, there's very little we can say in terms of what could have happened to the aircraft. >> do we know how long the pilot had been a commander of this a-322-200? >> >> caller: he was an experienced pilot, so i wouldn't think there's a problem with that. >> thank you very much from the wall street journal. ? . >> we'll have much more on the missing jet in the coming hours. but coming up after the bake, webake break. we have been following a ferry

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there has been a grim assessment on the fate of airasia flight 8501. based on current information one official says the jet is at the bottle ofom of the sea.

aircraft and vessels from a number of countries are searching a massive area. there were 162 people on board the flight. most of them from indonesia. 18 of them are children. there is another disaster we're following. and this one is at sea. the rescue of ferry passengers in the adriatic sea still ongoing. the sun is now up there, but passengers have been enduring freezing temperatures while waiting to be pulled off a ferry that's been burning for more than 24 hours. >> they've been calling television stations and rescue teams have been working through the night to pull those people off the ferry. >> we have this dramatic video from inside the ferry, taken by one of the passengers. the fire is now contained, but you can see it right inside there. unreal but smoke and weather conditions are continuing to

hamper the rescue efforts. the italian coast guard says one man died after he apparently fell off the ferry. >> the fire is believed to have started in the ship's garage area after leaving port in northwestern greece. we are joined now from athens. the latest information we are getting is that there is now an italian medical team on board. >> reporter: yes we are getting the same information as well. and we're looking now 24 hours since this large fire joke out on the ship as over half of the people have been rescued. the latest update that we have is that 284 people have been rescued off the ship. but progress remains quite slow because most people have to be moved by helicopter. the weather conditions are still not good. an effort had been made during the night to tow the ship but it was abandoned due weather

conditions. so it is mainly helicopters operating. and most can only take seven people at a time. the good news is that we do have rescuers on ship. many are shocked and suffering from hypothermia, but most of them do not seem to have any other problems and the other good news that we have is that the first ship with survivors, 49 people on board that ship from the original ship are now approaching the port in italy. they have just reached the port. you have images on tv showing us that. 49 people have been taken and rescue operations continue. daylight is very much helping operations, though the weather conditions remain very unstable. >> do they have the fire under control? is it out? and what is the condition of the ferry? is it in danger of sinking.

>> reporter: as far as we know the fire has been under control for some time but there's still so much smoke that it's impossible to tell when it's been completely put out. the passengers because there is still communication with the passengers people have been calling in to greek tv stations throughout the day yesterday and they have been doing so this morning as well. they're saying there's been a lot of smoke. they've been choking. they've been describing really horrible conditions and talking about a fire that's ongoing, but that's not somethingque confirm at this point. >> some of those accounts coming from the passengers on board have been incredible to say the least. what's the latest that the passengers have been phoning through and putting on social media? >> reporter: i think the main thing during the night is that people have been very scared. they've been sitting on a dark ship after many hours, they are very cold. been sitting on the dock of the

ship the very top, trying to follow rescue operations, and, you know, morale at that point can be very low. they've been prying to contact family asking for help saying come and save us. we've even had calls from people panicking saying we might jump in the water. that would be the worst thing to do in the case like this. and earlier in the day, we've been hearing from people who've been talking about feeling that their shoes are melting from the heat and especially the area where they were able to be just being more and more contained and getting smaller and smaller. while on the other hand all they can see was big waves and deep sea. >> it looks like it is now coming to an end, slowly. apparently each one of those helicopter rescues takes about 15 minutes. thank you. we'll check back in with you in the coming hours. two major disasters we continue to follow here. ahead we'll talk about the weather in indonesia and the

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my thoughts go to the passengers of the airplane while it was in route to singapore. as well as the passengers in the adriatic sea. with affection and prayers i am close to their family members and those close to the situation as well as those involved in the rescue operations. >> pope francis there, his remarks on sunday. so many hearts going out to those suffering because everyone in the world went through the mh 370 disaster. it's the weather that's hampering things and it seems to be the same. >> it has been a problem. and meteorologist pedram javaheri is following this for us. what's the forecast? >> the weather is as nice as we've seen it, as calm as we've seen it in quite some time across this region.

this has been the most active area on our planet. we want to zoom in and show you the clearing that is north of the area where we lost contact of with the aircraft. it shows you now fickle conditions are. but the perspective again over the next 24 hours, we do expect more storms to develop not nearly as severe as what we saw sunday morning. these are the current flights in midair at this hour over portions of the java sea. so activity has certainly picked up. and partly cloudy skies. and temperatures in the 90s fahrenheit. which is pretty typical for this time of year. here's the prospective. notice the pocket of clearing where we believe a downdraft in

this region. here's the thunderstorm the pilot was potentially trying to evade in requesting to go from 32,000 to 38,000 feet. and another thunderstorm ahead of it. here's the radar forecast the next couple of days. notice thunderstorms still wanting to bloom across this region. a few over what would presumably be the search area that being tuesday on into wednesday. so more weather expected across this region, and you wonder what the water temperatures are. i can tell you the death is about 46 meters, very shallow. you're talking about0 mile 70 miles to the east of where the last known area was. it would take any projected debris back toward indonesia in the coming couple of weeks. that's the surface currents the

water temperature sitting at 82 fahrenheit. when we talk about the ferry disaster, the water temperature would only give you a couple hours of survival. it is indefinite when you get to 26 celsius. it is something some hope to be left in place because we've touched on the south indian ocean fourr 370. the water temperatures were very cold for that time of year. >> back after a break.

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search and rescue operations gear up in the disappearance of airasia flight 8501 but a senior official says they presume the worst has happened. we are also covering this a nightmare passengers stuck on a burning ferry in the adriatic.