this is cnn breaking news. >> thanks for staying with us and welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. >> a search official in indonesia says he's 95% certain the debris spotted in the eastern java sale is from airasia flight 8501. >> the debris was spotted about six miles from the plane's last known flight position. 162 people were on that flight from surabaya to singapore when it disappeared sunday. >> this was the scene a short time ago as family members were called in to meet with officials at the search and rescue mission.

likely receiving news they did not want to hear. >> let's go to andrew stevens, who is live at the airport. andrew of course everyone now is hoping there will be survivors, but there are now reports there have been victims spotted in the water. >> reporter: yeah there has been images shown of victims in the water. bodies floating in the water, john but no sign of any survivors. but also there is still a lot of rescue vessels that need to get to that area. the chances of finding anyone alive honestly are very, very slim, indeed. the head of the national search and rescue team the main man in charge of the search and rescue here in indonesia saying he was 95% certain that this debris is from airasia flight 8501. the only reason he didn't say 100% is because he actually hadn't seen it with his own eyes. but obviously this is very very

compelling evidence. the plane, for all intents and purposes has now been located, or debris of the plane. the rest obviously is under water. it coincides closely to where that plane was last seen was held on radar, last made contact. so it all fits. and as you can imagine, absolute scenes of anguish here. one of the local television stations was actually being beamed into the room where all the family -- victim's families were and they were showing a vision of bodies in the water. someone from airasia tried to change the channel quickly, but incredibly distressing to the people in that room. our cameraman is over there right now and he said he seen two stretchers being taken in there, people have fainted. the emotional outpouring now is

just going to be devastating for so many of them. 162 people on that flight. what happens now, john is that the search and rescue are diverting all their resources into that area. there is also a team of divers making its way to the crash site. we estimate it looks like it's probably about between 100 and 150 kilometers offshore from the western side of borneo. so it may take some time for divers to get there. and also how long it's going to take for surface vessels to get there. but that is now the focal point, where all the teams are 4edheaded. miracles do occur, but very

unlikely there will be survivors, past 40 hours since that plane went down. >> and can you walk us through the timeline of when this debris was first started and how we got to this point where there is 95% confirmation that this is debris from flight 8501. >> reporter: sure. the third day of the search began today at 5:00 in the morning. five hours later the indonesian air force was looking in an area close to where the last contact was made with the plane and did spot debris in the water. about an hour and a half later, a secondary force flight was in the same area. it spotted more debris in a slightly different area. about 45 minutes later, a third indonesian air force plane spotted what looked like a life jacket. and there were other sightings

of debris as well. we think that may well have included bodies. so pictures were released showing short of objects in the water, described as brown square pieces yellow rectangular pieces and other objects. this just firmed up and firmed up. as we got closer to pictures being released there was a news conference held by the national team leading the search and rescue who then said we are 95% certain this is from the plane we are looking for. it is obviously incredibly sad, painful moment for the families here. so many of those families are just here behind us. but the mystery is no longer a mystery. flight 8501 did crash into the sea, just off the coast of western borneo. at this stage, it doesn't look

like there are any survivors. >> not the kind of information families wanted to be hearing. what has been clear i think through all of this is how authorities and even the airline tried to keep these family members up to date. there was a sense they wanted to tell them first before it was released to the media. how do you think this has played out with the families? of course the big questions now, andrew, what happened? >> reporter: well as far as the what happens goes we understand that the debris will be taken to the nearest major city in the central province. it will then travel from there down to surabaya. but you're right, there was a real concerted effort to make sure that the families had

information. we are now three days into this search. for a long time there was very little information to go on obviously. so the frustrations were going. authorities couldn't tell them anymore than really they knew themselves. speaking to many of the family members here there was a sense of frustration. authorities tried to do their best. they set up a skype call with the head of the search and rescue operations in jakarta, so the family members here could directly ask questions of the chief of the search. they kept the lines of communication open with jakarta as much as they could. there's obviously television reports, as well. there were priests brought in christian priests brought in muslim clerics brought in there were buddhist monks brought in to help the people. we're told there were professional counselors on hand but nothing to replace the loss and the pain and the anguish that these families have been

feeling. and that has been building and building and building. yesterday, for example, the head of the search and rescue came out to say it was their working assumption that the plane had crashed into the sea. imagine if you are a relative how you dealt with that news. it was just an assumption but it did seem to be the obvious working assumption to make. on top of that we went for a day and a half more than a day and a half without anything being found, which kept that little hope for so many people alive. that maybe there was a miracle, maybe the plane had come down on land and maybe there would be some survivors. but as you know now, that was not the case. it's going to be very difficult now, the counseling the grieving process still has to be completed. just a couple hours ago, airasia announced that it would be

taking family members over the search zone. this was before we knew where the debris was. that it would be taking passengers anyone that wanted to go over that area. i suspect that flight will still be on because when flight 370 disappeared, the malaysian airlines were offering to take family members to the crash site. the only thing is we never did find out where that crash site is. now we know where flight 8501 went down. so that flight with family members, likely to go ahead tomorrow. it will be incredibly painful, but you speak to psychologists. they say this is an important part of the grieving and ultimately the healing process, to see that area where their loved ones perished. so that is likely to go ahead. but it is going to be a difficult time for so many people. 150 of the passengers of the 155

on board were indonesians. and many we think, 70 or 80 were from surabaya. so the whole country is in a state of mourning and shock that this has happened. and the worst fears have now been confirmed from it. >> it really was a matter of time after this end of the day thee of the search that they would be looking for debris and wreckage instead of survivors. but andrew thank you. let's go to captain desmond ross an aviation expert in sydney australia. now we're getting more information from the head of the search and rescue. day three here is it foolish to think that anybody may have survived this? >> i regret to say i would not expect to see any survivors. the aircraft is clearly broken up. it would be something of a

america miracle if we do find any, but fingers crossed. but it looks as though of what i've seen so far suggest, it's hit the water at some speed and broken up which perhaps indicates a fall from almost a vertical dive or possibly it's broken up if flight before hitting the water. we won't know that until the pieces are brought out or recovered as much as possible and examined carefully by the investigators. but it's a very sad ending to an unfortunate incident. >> it seems to be the most likely outcome here. how long now do you think before they recover the flight data recorders before they get to the rest of the fuselage before they start piecing it all together? >> not too long. i would expect that given that we're told the waters in that area are only about 45 meters

deep you can almost sound divers down. you can send submersibles down. so they should be able to find the bulk of the wreckage. they'll be able to track that back and hopefully find using sonar with the ships in the area. they should be able to find the bulk of the wreckage quite quickly and it's only a matter of time before finding the voice recorders. >> captain ross, thanks again -- >> once they have the recorders, the analysis is quite fast. >> captain ross, sorry to interrupt you. but we appreciate that. obviously everyone wants to know exactly what happened to this plane. hopefully in the next couple of days. captain ross there from sydney giving us his opinion. now they know where the wreckage is. >> and the data that comes from

the debris i think that's where it's key in terms of currents in terms of the depth of the ocean, and pedro is going to give us some sense of what the search and rescue teams will be trying to recover and in what conditions they'll be trying to recover this debris. >> the conditions there, and you think about this of course being quite shallow. there's some disadvantages to having shallow waters. that means the currents underneath the water is going to be stronger. there's a lot of clay-like sediment built at the surface of the ocean across this region. so anything that disturbs it sends a lot of plumes up to the surfaces so that's going to be challenging to go through. but this is pausing it for you at this moment this is the area where the debris has been spotted, about six miles to the last known position of the aircraft. partly cloudy skies across the

region. again, we have about two hours and 15 minutes before the sun sets. so put the maps in motion. this is the current moment all the storms generally out of the search zone and you fast forward through the morning hours of wednesday morning. a lot of weather just south of the search area which would be the debris area across this region. notice wednesday not too bad. things begin to part wednesday afternoon, looking at partly cloudy skies, isolated storms certainly a possibility. thursday this is the morning hours, the sun comes back up it looks as if this pans out here. the operations as far as the search efforts have to be halted because of the severity of the storm lined up on thursday morning. that should be a four to five-hour period tapering off thursday around 1:00 in the afternoon. so every single day, we get four to five hours of weather where it's rough and four to five hours of weather where they can conduct the efforts there. >> appreciate that.

>> it is a terrible outcome. it is very very sad. but you have to say it is a better outcome than not knowing at all. like the case of flight 370, never knowing what happened at least at this point, what happened to the plane. so now there is debris, there is confirmation 95% certain this is the debris. the only reason he wasn't 100% certain is because he did not see the debris himself. >> you're watching cnn. we'll be right back after this break.

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a top kremlin critic has been given a suspended sentence after a russian court found he and his brother guilty of fraud. they were accused of stealing more than $500,000 from a french cosmetics company. >> protests against the verdict are expected later today in moscow. we're go live to erin mclaughlin mclaughlin. there's some surprise at the sentence. >> reporter: that's right, the sentencing a surprise to many, especially to leading opposition

activist alexi navalny who screamed out in court, why did you put my brother in jail. his brother oleg sent tensed to three months and six months behind bars. though navalny given a suspended sentence meaning he will not be spending time in jail. both brothers fined almost $90,000. this is actually less than what the prosecution had been asking for. they asked the court not only to find these brothers guilty of embezzling hundreds of thousands of dollars from a russian subsidiary of a front cosmetics firm but to sentence navalny to ten years in prison. both brothers have denied these charges, and navalny supporters have called this process a travesty against justice.

they're accusing the kremlin of using his brother as leverage against him, and they nevertheless say they are surprised that this verdict was not tougher. >> and also suggestions there may be protests later on no doubt these will be illegal. moscow has passed laws criminalizing street protests. how do you think this is going to may out? >> reporter: supporters have called today's court date as a blatant attempt to prevent protests which were expected or being planned for january 15. that was supposed to be the original date for this verdict. however, yesterday, late afternoon, the court making a surprise decision to move the verdict to today, while many people have not in moscow the

holiday season kick off on january 1. and also not giving supporters enough time to apply for the necessary permissions to protest under russian law. you need permission to do that. nevertheless supporters are still planning a protest in moscow's main square for later tonight. likely to be an illegal protest. and we can expect a police response. >> erin thanks for that update. and tony fernandez, the ceo of airasia has released a statement on twitter reading in part my heart is filled with sad nsa for the families involved. words cannot express how sorry i am. we'll have more on this breaking news from indonesia when we come back. >> you're watching cnn.

a nurse who was the first person diagnosed with ebola in the uk has arrived at a london hospital. she traveled sunday from sierra leone to scotland. she was hospitalized the next day. >> under uk protocols, she's been admitted to a special unit. nick rosen joins us live now outside that hospital.

if that's anywhere she's going to be that's the place. they've successfully dealt with one ebola patient already. any update on her condition? >> reporter: not so far. what we know from the hospital is she's in the high level isolation unit, a unit set up in 2006 designed for the isolation treatment of people with infectious diseases. william pooley a medical worker who was in west africa caught ebola, was brought back here and successfully treated several months ago. this new patient, a woman, she is the first to be diagnosed with ebola in britain. she had returned from an assignment in sierra leone. she is a nurse with the national health service here in the uk based in scotland. she was volunteering for the save the children fund. she had gone out there to work to help people with ebola late november. she was returning, got back late sunday felt ill yesterday

morning, was diagnosed early yesterday morning and then transferred here overnight in the early hours of today on a military aircraft in an isolation pod. no updates from the hospital but they're absolutely familiar with treating ebola patients and very familiar with the isolation and containment of the disease. that's something that both the government here and the hospital are very keen to point out to keep people's fears down so there could be a possibility of this spreading from here. >> in terms of where you are, you're right in the middle of london. this is a very urban area. what's been the public reaction to this? of course in the united states, there was a lot of backlash to returning doctors and nurses particularly ill ones.

how is this playing out in the uk? >> reporter: well, because william pooley the other patient who was treated with ebola was treated here a few months ago, i think people in this area at least have certainly become familiar with the fact that this hospital is preeminent location that successfully treated the disease. so far i think today you can see the people are waking up to the realization that this is once again happening on their doorstep. certainly there is a sense of unease among some people that aid workers who had been infected in west africa would be treated here and that could put them in danger certainly a large capital cities like london would be potentially devastating place for ebola to if you will to infect the public at large. but the hospital the government say there's no risk of that. and at the moment there seems to be no negative reaction that

something is being held here. there's a widespread feeling in the population here and the medical profession in particular that if the country and the medical profession can help treat patients in west africa, they should. and if they get infected then it's only right and proper if you will they're brought back here for treatment and given the best help they can get because that's what they've been trying to do. >> nic robertson there, thanks for that update. when we come back we'll return to our main story, the fate of airasia flight 8501. we'll have the latest on the debris that's been spot and what indonesian officials have been saying. also, the grief and the heartache for the relatives of those on board that missing flight now having the worst possible news. we'll be right back.

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and welcome back to our viewers in the united states and around the world. you're watching cnn. >> and here are the headlines. a high level search official in indonesia says he's 95% certain debris spotted in the java sea is from airasia flight 8501. the announcement all but erases any doubt about the fate of that missing plane. 162 people were on board. the first ebola patient diagnosed in the uk has arrived at a london hospital. a nurse returned from scotland of the weekend. she went to the hospital after

falling ill. she is expected to be placed in a special unit where another health care worker was successfully treated for ebola. the top kremlin critic has been found guilty of fraud, but he was given a suspended sentence. he's maintained his innocence and called the charges politically motivated. protests against the verdict are expected later in moscow. well there's grim news from that search and rescue official in indonesia. he says debris spotted in the eastern java sea is almost definitely from the missing airliner. the debris field is six miles from the plane's last known position. video showing what appear to be a floating body also shown at that news conference. >> family members of the 162 passengers on airasia flight 8501 received that news a short time ago. the airline's ceo tweeted his condolences saying "my heart is

full of sadness." let's go back now to surabaya where andrew stevens is standing by. any updates on what they may have or may not have found in the waters there? i think we have some communication problem with andrew right now. he's been reporting for the last couple of hours as this search continues, as they get closer to the debris they have confirmation of aluminum in the water, as well as a life jacket. there is reports they may have discovered what looks like the fuselage of a plane. so andrew, what else can you tell us? >> reporter: john i haven't heard what you have been reporting, but i've just been speaking to the friend of a man who was on board that flight.

that man was part of a family member group traveling to singapore. he said we were there, we were watching when the announcement was made. and people were taking it very, very stoically until there were pictures shown on local television of bodies. he said people just became hysterically, totally understandably. he said they were screaming, crying people fainted. stretchers were brought in. the mayor of the city of where we are was also in there, and she demanded the television be switched off. you can only imagine having been living through really a living hell not knowing what has happened to your closest family members. then to see bodies on television just having heard from the authorities that it is

95% certainly that this debris is from the flight 8501. so absolutely traumatic news and how the news was broken for the people here. what happens now, there will be a lot more of the search teams, divers will be going to the area where the debris was found. we've been told that the seabed is only about 40 meters deep. so accessible by divers looking for wreckage on the bottom of course. and there will be a search immediately -- the priority will be to get there and see by some miracle there are still some survivors. we don't know yet whether everybody died on that flight but certainly there will be a concerted effort to get there. we are hearing conditions around that crash site are not good. we don't know how bad they are. communications are quite he canctic

down here. but traumatic scenes here. >> andrew what happens next for the family members who are there? i mean they have this tour tomorrow where they go out to the site but beyond that, what arrangements are being made for them? >> reporter: that's a good question. it's not clear at this stage. obviously there will have to be identification of bodies. the family members are being asked to provide now pictures of their loved ones and also anything which could have some dna, if needed dental records or something that can help identify the victims of that flight. beyond that it will become just a private grieving process. as you say, there was a flight which was announced earlier, which airasia said they would fly any relative any family

member who wanted to go into the search zone they would provide a plane. information, the request for that nightflight came from the family members. they said they wanted to be there offering prayers to help the search process. that search process now is over. we don't know whether that flight will go ahead. many psychologist would say this would help to get that closure, to see the debris and see where a close one to the family perished. so they may well go ahead. so beyond that it will be a private grieving process. while obviously a country grieves with them. 150 of the 155 passengers on board were from indonesia. the crew obviously were majority indonesians, as well. this is airasia indonesia. this is a subsidiary operation of airasia.

so also there will have to be -- the airline itself just getting back to business after such a tragedy. tony fernandez, the current ceo, has been tweeting to say this is his worth nightmare. before we knew what happened to the plane, he was saying this was his worst nightmare. he's been spending a lot of time with family members here and spending a lot of time with the family of the crew members. he said they've been an inspiration to him for their courage in the face of such sort of pending tragedy. so very very difficult time for everyone john. >> andrew thank you. an true stevens live for us there in surabaya with the latest on the families. this is incredibly difficult for the families. >> very disturbing images. all these bodies were broadcast on television.

>> and this is just the start. >> it adds to their horror. >> some very difficult days and weeks and months still to come. let's go to jeffrey thomas from perth, a australia. so when you look at the debris field, what does that tell you, if anything about what went wrong with flight 8501? >> look i think the debris field confirms a catastrophic event. the fact that it was found directly -- we say directly underneath the area that the plane was lost. it's only ten kilometers or six miles from where the last radar plot was. from the radar plot we talked about earlier, the plane wasn't where it was supposed to be. it was at a speed that wouldn't

sustain flight and then all of a sudden it was lost. the debris field tells us similar to what air france 447 told us this wasn't a good outcome. it was a tragic outcome. i expect that the plane fuselage probably split in two. and if it had sunk in tact we wouldn't have the pods on the ss ss -- bodies on the surface, so obviously there's been a breach of the fuselage. as we found with air france 447, i think they're going to find the majority of the passengers in the airplane strapped in. >> we lost you a little bit there, jeffrey.

your skype connection slightly went a bit wobbly. i don't know if you can hear me now. it's so hard listening to that -- i don't know if you can hear me. i just wanted to know in terms of your understanding, your expert reading of this the mean potentially broke up into two parts. would that have happened mid-air or on impact? >> more than likely it could have happened on impact. in fact i would say it would be almost certain that it happened on impact. it would have typically split in two, either ahead of the wing or behind the wing. that's typically what happens to these sorts of aircraft in a very heavy impact. the nose may have also broken away. but i would say it would probably be in two pieces. and most likely the fuselage ahead of the wing and then the wing and the rear fuselage of

the aircraft. >> jeffrey, in terms of how this search proceeded the last couple of days did it go pretty much according to plan? >> yes, i guess we would have to say yes to that. i was a little bit surprised it took them as long as they did to activate the search for air traffic control to announce they had lost the airplane. it was about 98 minutes before they issued a distress on this aircraft. having said that the weather has been awful in this area. it's certain that the cause of the crash has also impeded the search for the aircraft. there's been a lot of thunderstorms in the area. that would have made things very difficult. the sea state would have been quite choppy again. makes it more difficult to spot things. so i think to find the airplane essentially within two days

given the conditions that's a timely manner. >> okay jeffrey, we appreciate you being with us. we have appreciated you staying with us over the last couple of days giving us your insight and analysis. thank you. it's the news no family wants to hear. families are being briefed on the latest discoveries from flight 8501. what we're learning about some passengers just ahead here at cnn. ring ring! progresso! i can't believe i'm eating bacon and rich creamy cheese before my sister's wedding well it's only 100 calories, so you'll be ready for that dress uh-huh... you don't love the dress? i love my sister... 40 flavors. 100 calories or less. [ male announcer ] eligible for medicare? that's a good thing, but it doesn't cover everything. only about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. so consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan,

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welcome back to cnn's continuing coverage on flight 8501. as of this hour we know that search crews are still working in the java sea, still trying to recover debris as well as bodies from that flight. it is now almost certain that the debris which was found in the last couple of hours has, in fact, come from flight 8501. this was the scene just an hour or so ago, as the searchers have been lowered down by a helicopter to pluck bodies from the water, as well as debris. we're being told life jackets have been found, as well as an emergency jacket as well as pieces of aluminum. this effort is continuing at this hour. there's some concern that if they don't get there soon enough the currents could move this debris. it could also sink. there's some reports that the

shadow of a fuselage of a plane has been spotted. that is yet to be confirmed. right now, it seems the fate of flight 8501 is known, and of course there is hope that maybe somebody survived. but that is a very dim hope at best. >> with that in mind we're beginning to learn more about some of the passengers on board that flight. a british executive with austin power was on the flight. his 2-year-old daughter zoe was also. >> and two sisters were students at the cambridge school. their parents were also on board. his sister told us how she found out what happened. [ speaking foreign language ]

planned on meeting them for a holiday before their wedding next year. >> and this latest airline tragedy is taking a toll on the families of the passengers and crew of the missing malaysian airlines flight 8501. danica weeks' husband paul was on board that plane when it went missing ten months ago. she said this holiday season has been really tough for both her and her two young sons. >> she also lost her partner, phillip, on the plane. she spoke with don lemon earlier. >> i just started to shake when i heard the news.

all the emotions they just repeat. and then you just instantly feel this incredible ache. it's a physical pain through your whole body just imagining what all those families are feeling, as well. you know i can imagine, unfortunately i know exactly what they're going through, and it's horrible. and now the same complete lack of news. it's unbelievable. >> the day it happened i totally just couldn't function any longer. i think i sort of hoped that i would wake up and they would have news and have some peace. because this is -- it's horrible. it's a horrible nightmare. >> we want some closure. you know we talk to each other on a regular basis. we're constantly asking for news. we just don't know anything at all. it's continuing to be a giant mystery. we really need to have some closure in our lives. >> danica?

>> i totally echo those sentiments. we want the truth. we want to know what happened. you just run these scenarios and we'll they have find peace until we do what's right by our loved ones and to find out what happened. we need to know the truth. not just for us, but for the flying public. this is a plane we don't know what happened to. we need to know what happened. my number one wish for 2015 is to bring pauley home to myself and our boys.

welcome back to cnn. we have this just in. another suspected ebola patient being tested in the united kingdom. this patient is in the southwest of england at royal cornwell hospital. that nurse traveled from sierra leone to scotland over the weekend. she's entering a special isolation unit in london. senior international correspondent nic robertson joins us in london.

what we're seeing now here in port two additional ebola cases, in addition to the one at the hospital where you are at. >> reporter: that's right. the one in scotland currently in a remote hospital being transferred shortly we understand to the hospital -- main hospital in coastal city of aberdeen. that will be for continued monitoring and checks to see if this person has ebola. they were recently in west africa although that person hasn't been believed to have had any contact, direct contact with people who have ebola. so yes at the moment we now have these two other cases, as well as the one that's being treated here at the high level isolation unit at the royal free hospital. the person here is a woman, we know she's a nurse.

she had volunteered to work with the save the children organization. she had been working in sierra leone, had traveled home sunday. felt ill monday morning and within 24 hours admitted here to this unit a specialist unit in the uk for treating ebola patients. >> and what do we know about this other patient in southwest of england at the royal cornwall hospital? >> reporter: very few details so far. at the moment we're still working on those details to try to get more information. but this is another case of somebody who does appear to be showing potentially some of the symptoms of ebola. i think from what we've seen from this one patient already transferred here if these other

two patients in the northwest highlands of scotland and in the southwest tip of england, the extreme ends of the country, if you will if they do turn out to have ebola, it would seem likely and probable they will also be brought here for treatment. this hospital has had success treating an ebola patient, william pooley was successfully treated early september this year. >> nic robertson in london thank you for that. we're just hearing an update from officials in indonesia. earlier they said they were 95% certain this was the plane. >> now they are 100% certain. the debris spotted just ten kilometers from the plane's last known position and disturbing images broadcast on indonesian television, which all the relatives got to see, and that was a number of floating bodies. >> family members of those 162 passengers on the flight got

that news a short time ago. the airline ceo tweeted his condolences saying "my heart is full of sadness." >> and that is the sad news from indonesia. you are watching cnn. >> "early start" is coming up next.

>> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. >> breaking news this morning, debris spotted in the search for missing airasia flight 8501. investigators say they are 95% certain it is part of the vanished jetliner. the families of the 162 people on board reeling this morning from the news. we have live team coverage breaking down the latest on the big story that begins right now. good morning. welcome to "early start." i'm john berman. >> i'm christine romans. it is tuesday, december 30th. welcome to our viewers around the world and u.s. the head of the operation say