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we are almost done but we have just enough time for our traditional final question for our guest. for all we've been through in the past 12 months what would you wish for america in the coming year? >> oh god, my wish for 2015 -- is peace. and my own show on cnn. >> i hope all these countries can just stop protesting and rioting and just live and love each other and -- life is so short. and my other dream is to play first base of the cleveland indians. >> my hope for 2015 is that the news becomes a little bit easier to follow. because it's gotten more peaceful. that's probably not going to happen. but we could hope. it's been a rough year we need a
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good 2015. >> my hope for 2015 is the world gets motivated to work together on climate change. >> if we could just live in a world where we thought the police were being policed by somebody i think 2015 would be a dramatic improvement. over 2014. >> my hopes for 2015 is that we can all get along and all just love each other more and help each other more and you know we'll be all right, america. we doing all right. >> i think if americans spend more time thinking about what they've been blessed with and have how great our lives are in america, less time complaining we'd be a much much happier people. >> our hope for love and warmthth and joy, please for 2015. >> and with that we can bring down the curtain on this whole sideshow of a year sometimes it was infuriating, sometimes unsettling but now it is finally over. our thanks to our guests and to you for watching. on behalf of everyone at ac 360
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and cnn, i'm tom foreman, wishing you all of the best and none of the worst in 2015. we have breaking news malaysia airlines confirms it has lost contact with a plane carrying 227 passengers and 12 crew members. good morning, vietnam! >> this is the tail section of mh-17. >> the first confirmed case of ebola in the united states. >> tonight i'd like to talk with you about immigration. >> a cease-fire between israel and hamas is history. airstrikes are authorized. >> republicans grabbing control of congress. >> the vast majority of our players are great men. teargas just dropped right near us it's going to get very bad if we don't have masks. we are being tested in
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sydney. good morning, welcome to this special new year's day edition of "new day." it is thursday january 1st the start of 2015. >> happy new year. >> chris cuomo here with alisyn camerota michaela pereira. who's luckier than me on "new day"? nobody. let's look at the year ahead. politics how big could the gop wins figure in the next two months? they happened two months ago, now what they're going to mean today. and let's examine where the unofficial war with isis might go. could it be the year that the terror group gains ground, expands influence? or will it be the year of the group's demise. >> and we'll look at the economy, how 2015 might treat your bank account. will the gas prices keep falling? and could this be the year to pull the trigger on finally buying a house? and what financial resolutions should you be making today and keeping? with all of those economic
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dollars saved. maybe can you go see a movie. we'll tell you what is coming up this year in terms of hollywood. we look at the big awards season who sup for the golden globes and what that could mean for oscar glory. but first a check of the headlines, over to the news desk. >> good morning, everyone thanks for being with us this new year's morning. i'm john berman. a break in the weather has search teams scrambling to find more victims and the fuselage of airasia flight 8501. official says it could take a week or more before the plane's flight data and voice recorders are found. eight of the 162 people on board have been recovered and cnn has learned that the "uss fort worth" could be dispatched to the search area today. let's get the latest from cnn's david mulco on the phone from surabaya indonesia. >> it is just about 7:00 here in surabaya. i am outside the police hospital
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at the stanley crisis center. a couple of hours ago hearts turned heavy here. we have the first formal identification of one of the passengers on the flight. this is casket number 1, we saw that coming off of the plane on the tarmac on wednesday. in a very somber ceremony. she's no longer just a number. she's a name. she was number 108 on the passenger manifest. i.d.ed by a fingerprint match and i.d. card and a necklace with her initials. an hour after that paperwork and her remains were turned over to her family members and her brother and unfortunately as well as the case that we're seeing with many of the families who were traveling on that flight her husband and daughter were also on the plane. out in the search zone operations also continuing at this hour. but challenging weather conditions including reports of
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waves in the three to four-meter range as well as nightfall are hampering that. so the big priority now according to the mayor in surabaya recovering those remains and keeping hope alive. she's telling families to pray for miracles and pray to god. >> david molko in surabaya indonesia, where for the time being the search is continuing. the weather has been very difficult. raining very hard. thanks so much. new year's eve celebrations turning deadly in shanghai. stampede along the city's waterfront led to 35 deaths and 50 injuries. more than a dozen of those injuries are considered serious. china's official news agency reports people started scrambling for coupons being tossed out of windows, thinking it was money. kim jong-un says he is open to the idea of a high-level summit with south korea in a new year's address, the north korean
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leader said he is willing to resume talks with the south koreans if they are serious about resolving differences. south korea proposed resuming negotiations earlier this week. government officials in both countries say the reunification of the korean peninsula is a top priority. new york city says it plans 0 to honor nypd officers who were ambushed in their squad car, honoring them by renaming streets on the brooklyn blocks where they lived. the wake and funeral for officer liu is scheduled for this weekend. word is that fbi director james comey will attend the service. former florida governor jeb bush seems to be moving closer to a 2016 presidential run. he has resigned all of his remaining board memberships, including parting ways with his own education foundation. the move does not affect business interests where he is a
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principal partner or an owner. last month governor bush announced his intention to actively explore a white house bid. five four, three, two, one! [ cheers and applause ] >> and welcome to 2015 an estimated one million people crammed into times square. over now to "new day." 2014 -- big year newswise. a lot of headlines. on the global front, the fight against isis tension in israel. you have the battle of ukraine, ebola crisis disappearance of flight 370. here at home -- a new congress. immigration battle. protests erupting in nearly every major city following the police incidents in ferguson missouri and staten island new york. what will it mean politically and economically in the new year ahead? let's bring in ron brownstein cnn political analyst and editorial of the "national journal" and miss ranna
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foroohar happy new year to both of you good people. all the best of health and happiness. when you look politics economics, hand in hand especially on the government level -- they got that $1.1 trillion spending bill. the process is what is going to be predictive for the economic environment wlaxt do you see going forward about what needs to be done in d.c. to keep the markets stable? >> business people have always complained the political gridlock was one of the reasons we've had a slow economy in the last few years. by some estimates it shaved a third of the growth we should have had off. what tends to happen is these two things go in snowball cycles. as the economy gets better there tends to be a more collaborative environment. think the question is how strong will the economy be in the year ahead and will the recovery be more broadly felt? if you start to see a middle class feel stronger people feel we're in this together you could see more collaboration
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around political issues in washington. >> brownstein you deal in perception as reality. you have the democrats as the out party. were so critical of the republicans. and the constipation of process down there. do you expect them to be better or do we expect more of the same? >> i like numbers, too, by the way. but i expect more by and large i expect more of the same. i think what we saw on the spending bill was more a convergence about tactics, than about goals. that republicans had come to conclude however reluctantly that shutting down the government is not a really effective lever to drive their policy agenda. they did not want to use that tool. but i think the gulf between what president obama has set out to do on a variety of fronts including immigration, including climate and implementing the health care law and what the republicans want are so big and the pressure from the republican base is so substantial, i think
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confrontation will be more the rule than compromise. >> let's do some yes-no's here. immigration reform rana do you think anything significant happens? >> not legislatively. >> when you look at the idea of spending and moving forward, do you think we'll see another shutdown? >> i don't. i think everybody has learned that this is terrible at the polls. you know the republicans have learned that and i think we're in a situation now where there's positive momentum. i think nobody wants another shutdown. nobody wants to be back where we were a couple of years ago. >> it was a long "no." here's the thing, rana is thinking yes, they learned their lesson. this lesson has been learned many times. democrats have shut down the government more often than republicans have in terms of times it's been done. the long list of how many times the government has been shut down. the question is why would they be any better this time? why wouldn't they just do what was done to them. not saying they should but what
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do you think, ron? >> the republicans, they have funded the government by and large, most of the government through september of course the one area they did not fund through september was the department of homeland security they want another crack at overturning president obama's executive action on immigration. in the end i don't think they will find a legislative lever strong enough to do it i think this will be one of the themes of the year that the lawsuit by the republican attorneys general, against immigration like the lawsuit against the obama health care subsidies is going to be big part of the story. the confrontations between obama and republicans courts republican-leaning courts or republican-appointed judges i think would be as much of the story in 2015 as confrontations between president obama and the republican congress. >> does the supreme court make a decision either on executive actions or leegality of obama care? >> i think they make a decision on subsidies in obama care.
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you're asking where john roberts falls out, is he willing again to protect the obama health care law against a strong consensus on the right to move against it? i think that will be critical question. >> internationally, oil, what's going do happen? we understand first of all, tell us why this is happening. why are saudis pushing down the price of oil? who are they coming after? >> the saudis are pushing down the price of oil. that's some people think part of a complex geopolitical strategy to put pressure on the iranians who have more budgetary problems they don't have the foreign currency reserves that the saudis do their oil is more expensive to get out of the ground. there's a sectarian conflict in the region. there's a lot of impetus for the saudis to keep pumping and keep the price low. >> what about collapsing our market? >> absolutely. on the one hand lower prices of oil is kind of a tax rebate in the consumers' pocket to the tune of $100 billion.
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at the same time you've got the economic viability of our shale gas, which needs about $70 a barrel. becoming less and less competitive. so you've got people now saying is some of that going to go offline? will that then start a snowball effect for thes manufacturers that were counting on the cheap oil to grow cheap jobs at home to maybe cut back. >> when does oil pop. >> hit a low? >> no pop. >> go back up. >> we will not see oil above $90 barrel again. i don't think. >> that's a pretty decent pop. >> $100 a barrel that's the century mark. >> strong strong choice for foroohar. >> one last one for you -- do you think or who do you think, ron, is going to pop on the republican side as the 2016 potential that we don't see right now?
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>> well first thing i think is that jeb bush probably will come into the race and will become the focal point of the race. not that he will be a decisive front-runner but that the choice in the republican race will instantly be kind of realigned about whether or not you want another bush. i think the one who is probably less on the radar now would be scott walker. the governor of wisconsin. who i think has the ability to bridge the more managerial and populist side of the party. >> what about the governor of ohio? >> i think if jeb bush gets in the race john kasich is squeezed out. i think there's a strong inclination on the republican side to look for an executive, to look for someone out of washington and jeb bush fills a lot of that space, makes it tougher for some of the others. >> what are the odds on hilary running? what do you give me? >> 80%. it's going to happen. >> all right. good predictions, we will hold you accountable. i mean me.
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welcome back to "new day." after spending so much money on holiday gifts and parties, some financial advice might be in order. we've got experts here with everything you need to know about your money in 2015. let's bring in cnn chief business correspondent christine romans and cnn global economic analyst. rana foroohar. let's start with the stock market. because christine, you have told us how in 2014 it was on fire.
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what are you predicting for 2015? >> i don't think you're going to see another year like did you in 2014. several years of double-digit gains for stock market gains. cnn polled experts and they say on average 8%. >> still a nice little return. >> i think it's one of those. >> that's harder for the regular people to get involved with right? >> you've got to hang tight. i don't think this is the time to sell. i think it's going to be a very volatile year. in part because the rest of the global economy is very up and down. which is one of the reasons that u.s. equities will benefit. we're still the safe house for stocks. >> let's talk gas prices. >> they experienced record lows at the end of 2014. the average national price in 2014 was $3.40 per gallon. in 2015 the prediction is it will be $2.60. >> and that's from the government. the government is saying $2.60. i think you're going to see gas prices stay like this through the year. this is going to act as a
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stimulus for the american economy. $100 billion, real money for people. you're not going to get wage increases, you're going to get your wage increase at the gas tank. >> we just have to hope that the u.s. shale production which is predicated on $70 a barrel gas, doesn't go offline. because that could also affect the u.s. economy in a negative way. it's an interesting balancing act. >> it's good but it could be bad. >> volatile. like that. >> because it could help our pocketbook but it could hurt the economy in general. >> that's right. it could hurt production. >> energy you've seen a lot of great job growth in energy in north dakota and texas over the past few years, think you could see some job cuts in the energy patch if you're going to see any kind of projects that are going to be stalled or delayed. >> a lot of u.s. manufacturers are counting on cheap energy at home to fuel their own expansion. >> why do they have to be mutually exclusive? why can't we continue energy
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production at home even as price goes down? >> if people feel they're not going to make their money to get the gas out of the ground it's a disincentive for production. >> how about the housing market? >> i hope first-time buyers will have a better year. rents will rise next year. >> why? >> rents are rising because more and more people are renting. because the population is growing and credit is tight. first-time home buyers are having a hard time getting loans. what i would like to see is the lending standards loosen up. first-time home buyers get in there. zillo did a study that millennials might be able to get in there. millennials are starting to get jobs and buy apartments we'll see that might be too bullish. >> what happens if you loosen up lending restrictions don't you start the cascade of problems we had a few years ago? >> there was a boom but there was a real contraction that left a lot of middle class and
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first-time home buyers out of the market. >> they need to get in there are qualify fied people who need to be able to refinance or get a mortgage and they haven't been able to. hopefully next year will be easier for them. >> are there new guidelines? >> you're going to see for some qualifyied home buyers you'll be seeing some rules that are meant to loosen the standards, not loosen the standards like you're talking about where it was crazy time. there were loans where you didn't have to show a job or income or assets. >> and the banks have shown great discretion it's not like they would abuse it for their own gain. >> and regulators are watching them. >> regulators are so stringent. >> they loosened up the banks'
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ability to loosen up the regulations. and jamie dimon went asked for it. >> and the white house took that trade. >> revolving door between wall street and washington is still open. but hopefully a better economy this year. volatile stay firm don't sell your stocks. ride it out. >> i agree. think long-term. >> great advice ladies. thanks so much. >> don't spend money you don't have. please don't spend money you don't have. >> you told them to buy a house go crazy with extra cash from gas. >> this is the year to repair your finances if you need to. >> great advice. >> these economists always have another hand. on the other hand. you have ukraine, israel gaza syria, iraq afghanistan, 2014 as you know was filled with conflict. so could some of these areas find peace in 2015? where could we see more
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welcome back to a special new year's edition of new day. some people are still up. >> good for you. we applaud that. now in a moment we will look at the potential hot spots across the world in 2015. christiane amanpour will give us her insights. >> and we'll be looking into the crystal ball of politics. could this be the year that the stage is set for the 2016 presidential election? of course it is it's the year preceding it. the question is what's going to happen with the republicans taking over the legislative branch in a few days? will it mean a new era in washington? will it be gridlock no more? lots to talk about. but first let's check the headlines at the news desk. >> thanks so much. good morning, everyone happy new year. 33 minutes after the hour. happening now, search teams
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fighting severe weather and huge waves, but still scrambling to find more victims and the fuselage of airasia flight 8501. officials say it could still take a week or more to locate and recover the plane's flight data and voice recorders. and cnn has learned the "uss fort worth" could be dispatched to the search area today. david molko is tracking latest developments for us from surabaya surabaya indonesia and joins us by phone. >> hi john. a difficult day here in surabaya night has just fallen. we've gone through an hour-long torrential rain storm here and just before that the first victim from the airasia flight was formally identified number one, she was the casket brought off the plane on wednesday, we saw five others over the past couple days. 16 total coming here to surabaya the passenger is hayati hamid.
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we're told by the identification team she was i.d.ed based on a fingerprint match and she had a necklace with her initials on it. her remains were handed over a short time late anywhere a small ceremony people were passed from the identification initials over to an airasia official and then handed over to her brother. we're told the family is planning to bury her tonight or tomorrow. >> david molko, thanks. just before mitt midnight new year's eve celebrations turned deadly in shanghai china. 35 deaths in a stampede. more than a dozen injuries are said to be serious. china's official news agency reports that people started scrambling for coupons being tossed out of windows, people thought it was money. attorney force boston marathon bombing suspect dzokhar
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tsarnaev are asking the court to move their client's trial to another district. say it will be impossible to seat an impartial jury in boston. jury selection is scheduled to begin on monday. he's facing the death penalty for his role in the bombing which killed three people and injured 260 others. the number of murders in new york city dropped to a record low last year. 328 people were reported killed in 2014. that's the lowest number since at least 1963. when the nypd started collecting reliable data. the city is seeing lower numbers in almost every major crime category. notable there are no celebrations with the force still mourning the ambush and killing of two officers in brooklyn. the flu has reached epidemic levels and poses a dangerous risk to children. the centers for disease control and prevention say 15 kids have died so far in nine states flu season typically peaks between december and february. the cdc recommends that children receive a seasonal flu vaccine every year.
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pope francis marking the new year with a mass at st. peter's basilica as the church commemorates the world day of peace. the focus calling for an end to human trafficking and slavery. he urged the faithful to fight the general indifference that allows them to flourish. during a service wednesday, pope said the beginning of the year is a good time to reflect on our mortality. let's go back to chris, alisyn and michaela in this special edition of "new day." so in 2014 we saw the obama administration turn abroad that led to involvement in several international conflicts. the question is what's going do happen on those fronts in 2015? let's bring in someone with perspective, christiane amanpour k&n's chief international correspondent. happy new year to you, my friend. thank you for the gifts that you've given me before and in the future. >> happy new year to you and to all our viewers, it's going to be a heck of a year on international front, chris.
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>> let's talk about why. obviously at the top of the list has to be isis. what do we see evolving in that situation? >> well what you see right now is a sort of a halt of the major momentum that isis had from last year in other words the whole of 2014 was signified by isis' rise its barbarity, its beheadings and its consolidation in iraq and in syria. you also saw the u.s. come in with air strikes to halt the momentum and to a large extent it's done that. and to some extent the political situation in iraq is beginning to make baby steps towards getting out of its dysfunction. and also the military momentum for isis is beginning to stall. but there is an argument between iraqi forces and the u.s. government as to when to make a major offensive against isis and dislodge them from a major target like mosul. a very important city in iraq. the first one they took.
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you know iraq wants to go soon united states wants to wait until everybody is really ready. we'll see how that happens. >> putting the issue of whompbether or not it is a red herring or a straw horse to the side the phrase for americans is boots on the ground do you think in 2015 we see united states fighting men and women in the battle once again somewhere outside the u.s.? >> well the thing is they already are. i mean there are american boots on the ground. you're right, they're not in front-line combat operations. >> will they be? >> but they are advising and assisting. you know one can never say never. obviously the president doesn't want that to happen. none of the western democracies want to see their force goes back into iraq. honestly the disaster in iraq from 2003 to right now is what has led to the rise of terrorism in iraq and also the disaster of syria. the truth of the matter is that boots on the ground or not, if syria is not also confronted in
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2015 there is going to be no peace and resolution in iraq at all. because syria is still the hq for isis and they're still able to operate fairly freely in some of the places they have very freely that they have consolidated. and everybody seems to think well let's just pound isis in syria. but nobody who knows anything about that region thinks that that without getting rid of bashar al assad, and without ending that war, isis is truly going to be crippled. >> it would be nice in this world of relativism if isis was the sole concern for people who love peace in the world. but it won't be right? when you look at other issues that must be addressed, what do you see of most importance will it be the middle east? will it be russia? or will it be north africa? what do you think will command the most attention? >> well i think certainly the middle east peace process has had so much effort by the u.s. administration over this past
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year collapsed towards the end of the year. shows no sign of really taking hold again. but that really does have to be solved in order for the ripple effects of stability to be felt around the region. it is still the thorn in the side of everything that happens in that region. however, the whole idea of isis the taliban and pakistan at the end of the year. we saw a horrible resurgence of the taliban. but we have good news in afghanistan. and that is the fact that two moderates were elected to run afghanistan. the president, is a technocrat he wants to work with the west. he wants international forces to continue stabilizing his own country and his deputy is the same kind of cut from the same kind of cloth. unfortunately the taliban is rising in anger, trying to defeat this new group. however their people support them. and they really need support in
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order to stabilize afghanistan. but russia for sure the russia/ukraine situation is teetering still on the edge of some kind of calamity. i'll say this because although there won't be a war between the west and russia there will be possibly be another terrible attack or crash or accident that will result in loss of life. just as this year ended, russia military jets often unmarked with their radar identification turned off, are probing around the baltics for instance and there have been near-misses with civilian airliners, several, as the year ended. this is very very dangerous. >> i'll tell you what we want to be optimistic because it's the new year the beginning. but you know that when afghanistan is one of the bright spots in the global picture -- you know you have big challenges ahead. i foresee christiane amanpour in the chair across from somebody a very big significance and
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we'll get to watch the supreme tester take on those who need to be tested. thank you for giving us your perspective as always and the best for the new year to you, my friend. >> happy new year to you and everyone. so we've seen some great political battles that happened in 2014. the question is which will be the big battles going forward. the gop now in control, the white house promising to use its veto power. what does 2015 hold in store? will the two sides learn to work together? hey, you got to be hopeful. alright, so this tylenol arthritis lasts 8 hours but aleve can last 12 hours. and aleve is proven to work better on pain than tylenol arthritis. so why am i still thinking about this? how are ya? good. aleve. proven better on pain. [ male announcer ] when john huntsman was diagnosed with cancer, he didn't just vow to beat it. i vowed to eradicate it from the earth. so he founded huntsman cancer institute. ♪ ♪ everything about it would be different.
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welcome back to a special new year's edition of "new day." it's a new year and new lawmakers are set to arrive on capitol hill. the gop now controls both the house and the senate. and leadership positions in key senate committees will kwhang hands. here to give their predictions on the issues they believe will dominate in 2015 cnn political analyst and editor in chief of the "daily beast," john avlon and cnn republican consultant margaret hoover. here are the topics that you both believe will dominate in 2015. the presidential campaign gridlock on immigration, isis and energy independence. let's start with the presidential campaign. what are we going to see, john? >> this is when it gets real. you'll see all the candidates start to get in the game. traditionally democrats have the really crazy field and republicans have the conventional wisdom front-runner. roles totally reversed this cycle.
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republicans it's warlord status. and on the democratic side hillary clinton seems to have the field basically frozen. so it's going to be wild. you're going to have jeb bush it's going to seriously exploring a run. you're going to have rick perry, getting in that game. rick santorum. who is fighting for the social conservative crowd and rand paul and ted cruz the freshmen senators can't wait to get it on. >> i think it's sort of a jungle primary. i think everybody -- it's a horse race a two-year race to run for the presidency. everybody out of the gate is going to look strong. republican primary voters are open-minded, even though rick perry totally botched his run, they're going to look at him. and look at ted cruz rick santorum. everybody who starts the race is going to get a serious look. you got to win on the endurance. eventually some horses will start to sputter out, lose steam. whoever has the most money and most energy most support, not when we start the year or halfway through the year but at the end of 2015 is who we're looking at. >> who is it?
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>> i predict it will not be somebody like ted cruz i think he'll flame out early. think he's got a lot of grassroots support early but ultimately republican primary voters while they want ideological uniformity, they also want to win. >> who is it? >> my bet, well -- do you want to know who i like personally? i like jeb, i really like jeb, i like jeb a lot. >> made avalon wince. >> the gop likes dynasty names. i think republicans are looking for, margaret is the establishment center right figure who can win a general election that's what they've been looking for. i think you know for my money, i think you're going to see ted cruz perform brilliantly in debates, i think he's going to be stronger than people think at outset. i think rand paul could shake up conventional wisdom right now. i think he could strongly
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perform in the first six states mobilizing youth, getting people cited with a strong philosophical consistency. my prediction is it will be the stop rand movement. you're going to look to states like florida will the establishment will rally around an alternative. >> and who will stop him? jeb bush. >> can we talk about gridlock. we narrowly averted a shutdown. is this going to be the new normal going to 2015. >> it is the new normal. look, yes, republicans have unified control. they may be able to pass more bills. will this he do it with a sense of what the president can and will actually sign? certainly not. the silly season will begin early because of the presidential campaign. you're going to get those kind of pressures. there are areas where they can and should find common ground corporate tax reform and trade deals, those may get through. but anything that's truly historic and significant, the opportunity for immigration reform? very unlikely.
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>> it was the new norm from the last congress but there is a different congress coming in and they promised when they won, they promised that they would get legislation through. >> there's a lot of promises in washington. hard not to be cynical. >> they understand mitch mcconnell understands and i think john boehner understands they have a sweet spot of about six months before silly season begins in earnest to actually do what the american public sent them to do. they're setting the table for 2016. they can brand the republican party as a do-nothing party or as a party that's interested in solving the country's problems. my guess and true hope is that they'll have at least one piece of landmark legislation they can point to that the president will sign. >> i love that mitch mcconnell promised that we should hold him to those promises and i'm going to be hopeful. but you know i want a postpony, and i don't think i'm getting a pony for christmas. >> you're so allergic to postponeponyies. >> it's cute that you're allergic to ponies. >> it's cute that you guys have
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talked about ponies in your marriage that's adorable. let's talk about energy independence. is this possible margaret in 2015? >> we have this emergent energy renaissance happening in this country. natural gas is everywhere fueling a huge amount of the economic recovery. it is the untold story between why president obama won ohio in 2012 for example. it's there, it's going, i think what the real challenge is the policy challenge at the foot of the new senate and congress to repeal some of these really restrictive national regulations on energy so that that renaissance can even can blossom even more. >> republicans want to do that right? >> republicans do want to do it. >> democrats will see it as a step back. >> sure the activist crowd, holding debates over keystone. but president obama should understand that the energy boom which he has not necessarily facilitated has boosted the economy. the american economy does appear like it is on the brink of finally taking off. we've had good numbers, but that's persistent gap between
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wall street and main street still needs to be addressed. one of the interesting factors of the energy boom is the pressures it puts on geostrategic competitors like russia whose economy is crumbling. that's going to be one of the interesting stories of the new year. >> happy new year, ponyies for everyone. we're talking about the big storest stories, one is the status of race relations in america. protesters are demanding reforms of policing and police culture. what will happen? will they amount to anything? we discuss. ♪ turn around ♪ ♪ every now and then i get a little bit hungry ♪ ♪ and there's nothing good around ♪ ♪ turn around, barry ♪ ♪ i finally found the right snack
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this is the tail section of plmpb h-17. the first confirmed case of ebola in the united states. >> tonight i'd like to talk with you about immigration. a cease-fire between israel and hamas is history. air strikes are authorized. republicans grabbing control of congress. the vast majority of our players are great men. teargas just dropped right near us it will get very bad if we don't have masks. black lives matter! we are being tested in sydney. good morning, everybody, happy new year. happy new year. welcome back to a special new year's edition of "new day." >> not so loud. >> people are moving a little slowly. >> people are just waking up. welcome to 2015. go you remember what happened last night. i'm alisyn camerota along with chris cuomo and michaela pereira. we're looking at how major news events in 2014 could impact or affect change in this new year.
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including how huge national story on the closing weeks of last year the issue of alleged overreach from the police and the racial protests happening across the country and the dialogue that came from all that. where is this taking us? could the outrage change the country? >> plus a crisis on another continent we had to deal with remember the ebola situation? what did we learn from it in the u.s. and what can we do about it going forward? particularly with science. all of those stories and more ahead. first let's check your latest headlines over at the news desk. good morning, everyone happy new year i'm john berman about one minute until the hour right now. search teams are once again racing to find victims in the fuselage of airasia flight 8501 despite heavy rain and four-foot waves in the java sea. officials say it could take a week or more before the plane's black boxes are found. cnn has learned that the "uss
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fort worth" could be dispatched to the search area as soon as today. let's get the late frebt cnn's david molko in surabaya in indonesia, who joins us live. good morning, david. >> hi john let's get straight to some news straight from the search zone where we're hearing from search and rescue officials they have now recovered nine bodies at this point. so despite the weather and rough conditions we're hearing 10 to 12-foot waves out in the search zone in the java sea, that's hundreds of miles northwest from where i'm standing here in surabaya, despite that they are still pulling human remains and airplane debris from the water. here in surabaya the crisis center and police hospital a sobering moment a few hours ago as the first victim from that plane crash was officially identified. her name is hayadi hamid. we saw her casket coming off the military plane here on wednesday
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followed by another and four additional ones today. they identified her by fingerprints and i.d. card and she was wearing a necklace with her initials. a few minutes later another heartbreaking moment as her remains were turned over to her family. her brother was there to receive the paperwork as well as her remains. her burial we're told either tonight or tomorrow. and unfortunately her husband and her daut were also on that flight. the mayor of surabaya at the crisis center says she's telling families to pray for a miracle and right now, 161 more families are still waiting for answers. >> again the news now a ninth body has been recovered from the sea. new year's eve celebrations turning tragic in shanghai a stampede along the city's waterfront just before midnight led to at least 35 deaths and nearly 50 injuries. more than a dozen of those injuries are said to be serious.
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china's official news agency reports people started scrambling for coupons being tossed out of windows, apparently they thought it was money. new york city plans to rename two brooklyn streets in honor of the two police officers who were ambushed and murdered in their car last month. city council officials will take up the plan late they are month. meanwhile, the wake and funeral for officer wejnian liu is scheduled for this weekend. fbi director james comey is expected to attend. a white house bid by jeb bush is looking ever more likely this morning. the former florida governor has resigned all of his remaining board memberships, he's even parting ways with his own education foundation. now, the move does not affect business interests where he is a principal partner or owner. last month the former governor announced his intention to actively explore a run for the white house. five four three, two, one --
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[ cheers and applause ] >> an estimated one million people jammed a frigid times square to ring in 2015. the annual ball drop triggered plenty of hugs and kisses. a whole lot of confetti as well. mayor bill de blasio and his family pushed the ceremonial button. back to "new day" for their special coverage. the final weeks of 2014 saw protests in major cities across the country. inspired by the deaths of two different blackmen one in ferguson, missouri one in staten island new york, both at the hands of police. the outrage stoked with grand jury decisions not to charge the officers. >> the families of michael brown and eric garner promise to continue to seek justice. what does the road ahead look like for them? and really for these big groups that have decided to protest and demand justice, demand a change in law enforcement culture. what's it going do lead to? let's discuss where we are, how we move forward we have don lemon, the host of "cnn tonight"
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and mr. mark lament hill host of huff post live and a professor. the obvious question is now what? you've had the protests outrage and disposition of the criminal justice system in two cases. what happens now, profess center. >> i think you organize. i've been an activist for a long time. it's not hard to get people to go to the scene of a crime or tragedy. but the next day, the phone calls, the voter registration the organizing of a policy agenda i think that's next and what's going to happen. there are 27 mayoral elections coming in 2015. that should be an agenda item. who's going to be your police commissioner. what's your agenda. >> don, how do we get that? we've got a passionate group of engaged young people specifically. those same young people aren't necessarily the ones heading out to the polls. >> that's what the numbers show. and the studies show. we see every time there's an election that voter turn-out for young people very low.
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especially during mid-term elections, i think what you do is you have to take it to the polls. that's where the power is and nut movie that's out now, running in theaters now, "selma" shows how people were organized. when i spoke to oprah winfrey, she said what was important about the protests then, is that and the protesters then they had a strategy. it was strategy strategy strategy. it wasn't just about marching. just about yelling. just about being in the streets. those, that march from selma to montgomery was about getting the voting rights right? equal rights for voting. and so i think that that's what those protesters need to do now. take all of those thousands of protesters and they all need to go to the polls the next time there's an election. >> as you mentioned, '64 and '65. it didn't happen through voting it happened through civil disobedience. >> that's the start of it civil disobedience is great. i say peaceful protesting is great as well. i believe the real power and i think you will agree, it's in
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going to vote. because you said the police commissioner the mayor, the governor the president, that's where you're going to make change. >> let's talk about a different kind of poll. public opinion polls, a recent cbs news poll from last month asked blacks and whites how they felt about race relations, they got very different answers. 42% of whites felt race relations in the united states are generally bad. whereas 54% of blacks felt they were bad. and obviously it was inversed it was flipped for generally good white versus black. mark what do we do about that? >> i think that's the reality of race in america. people who are on the bottom tend to look at race relations as more poor than they are or more than their counterparts do. i don't know that we can change this until we change the substantive realities. until race relations at a core level in terms of housing, education, health care food et cetera is dealt with, you're going to see the gap between how people see race in america.
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>> don't you think we can see things from a community level? this is the one thing that i want to know about. i'm about starting small and on the ground and i think that's where the movement started. what about our attitudes toward one another? >> you read my mind. i think, people are so angry lately. there's this energy going, everyone is out to get someone. >> a lot of finger-pointing. >> i don't know what is going on in the universe and the cosm sovereign, whatever. i think people need to be less judgment and more curious, right? be curious instead of judgmental. as long as we have these conversations, they're not going to be perfect. people are going to mess up. they're going to say things they shouldn't say. but you have to allow for that. in order to as you say, on a human level, to understand it. to foster understanding. >> you also need leadership. you were talking about selma, harry belafonte. was a very big organizer down there. he said one of the big differences, one of his regrets with today is that he doesn't see the next generation of
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leadership coming up and helping to spearhead these efforts, control conversation harness the energy and move it what do we do about that? >> i'm excited about that i disagree with mr. belafonte on that. i think that this movement is different, our freedom song is going to be different. our struggle is going to be different than it was in the 1960s. i think not having a singular leader is actually a good thing. i think having more distributed leadership is a good thing. not having a charismatic leader at the top is a good thing. i think what many of the previous generation are trying to do is co-opt the movement. >> you now, this you have to be careful with everything because this is a sound bite society we're talking about having conversations. i think in my opinion, the people the younger people now who are involved in the movement are not quite as informed as the people before. they don't read as much into you know what they should be reading. they don't know about history and i'm not sure whose fault it
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is. i think it's maybe our education system to some point. because as i went to view the movie "selma" i was there with a group of children. and they said we didn't learn about this in school. we did not learn about black history. i went to a black catholic school. i knew about everything in the movie. maybe not so much about the women who were involved in the movement. but i knew about those things and i think that's important to realize how those people fought and went back. >> you sound like an old man. it's not true. that is not true. >> they kept going back and back and back in order to vote and they read they listened. they don't always agree. but i think they were a little bit more informed. and i think that we can -- >> that's not historically true. fewer than 12 to 13% of black people participated in civil rights marches of any sort of in the 1950s and '60s, that means even going to one march. most of them weren't reading books. the people highlighted in those films and other places the average person just showed up to the march.
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the average person just knew they wanted justice. that's similar to what we're seeing right now. in 1910 there was a book w.e.b. dubois published saying people aren't educated enough. even the civil rights generation now that we laud we criticize for the same stuff. i like this generation of young people i think they're very informed. >> i think it's great they're out there doing it but i think we can always be a little bit more informed and when you ask people about why are you out here doing it? who are your leaders? there's no clear understanding about that. and that's what i'm saying. there's no clear understanding about what a strategy is. so -- >> strategy is an interesting point. >> you also had a desperation to motivate and influence the system in the '60s, where as now there's a rejection of the system in a way that is new to our cultural dynamic.
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people don't want to vote, they don't believe in the system. so what are you left with? that's one of the big challenges. >> other forms of activism. we should appreciate the vote value the vote but see it as a tactic one strategic among many. many young people even those who don't believe in the vote are advocating for a different police structure. it's not the only game in town any more. >> do you grow with me? >> just a little bit, agree with me. >> we have our work cut out for us. >> mark lament hill don lemon, great conversation. >> can we continue to have this? i would love to. >> as long as he's not involved. >> oh whoa. >> there it is. gave him an opportunity to be different and 2015 -- >> some things never change. >> i love talking to you two. that one i'm not so sure about. see you guys soon. we're going to be talking about a word that had been synonymous with fear and death -- ebola. remember how worried everybody
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was here when the virus paid its first visit to the u.s. in 2014? so the virus that has been so lethal in africa only claimed one life in the united states. so what does that mean? what have doctors figured out? we have information for you. we'll talk about it plus some of the biggest trends on twitter to look for this coming year. you're watching a special new year's edition of "new day." ugh... ...heartburn. did someone say burn? try alka seltzer reliefchews. they work just as fast and are proven to taste better than tums smoothies assorted fruit. mmm... amazing. yeah, i get that a lot. alka seltzer heartburn reliefchews. enjoy the relief.
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that introduced you to the world of ebola. the virus that's ravaging parts of west africa. is ravaging. especially sierra leone, liberia, new guinea. the first patient to develop ebola in the united states was thomas eric duncan may he rest in peace, he died at a dallas hospital in september. since then nine others recovered from ebola here. there are currently no new cases in the united states. that we know about. what can be expected in 2015? how is the fight against ebola going inside where it really matters in the hot zone? for answers we have dr. seema yasmine, a former disease detective for the cdc. disease detective. let's talk about what matters most which is part of the answer for people at home. it matters in west africa right now. how does the fight go there? >> absolutely. that is still the hot zone. we're still seeing increasing numbers of infections there. more than 500 cases reported in sierra leone just recently.
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what we are seeing troops going in there, more volunteers going in it's really such a delayed response and because we were late responding in the beginning, we're still playing catch-up and actually the virus is moving a lot quicker than we are. >> why? >> it's a very contagious virus. maybe not as contagious as others out there. because of the lack of health infrastructure there, there are still not enough hospital beds for ebola patients. and what i'm hearing now from doctors at the front lines is people are dying in their homes, of things like malaria, cholera, things that could be treated in the hospital, but the beds are taken up with ebola patients. >> you have lack of health infrastructure. plus what happens with the disposition of bodies after death. the combination is sparking a movement of the virus in west africa. problems we do not have thankfully in the united states right? that's a big reason you say don't worry if you're here. >> absolutely. we heard it from the cdc right at the beginning, we would likely see imported cases here in the u.s. just because the outbreak was going on for so
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long in west africa but we would not see an outbreak anywhere near what we're seeing in west africa here in the u.s. we have plenty of doctors here we have great medical facilities. >> so the simple answer, a person says i think i'm going to get it. somebody had it they're working in africa and are now here just a matter of time. the answer? >> they're not going to get it the chances of it spreading in the u.s. are much lower than we see in west africa. liberia, a country of about four million people they have about 50 doctors, so many of those have died. sierra leone, the same. they have 156 doctors, ten died recently in the u.s. that's equivalent to losing 50 or 60,000 doctors. that's the scale we're looking at. >> you have to look at it relatively. we have much more ability to treat it here. that's why we see the success with cases. now the unfortunate part of it is it means we also don't have the magic cure we don't have the silver bullet. we don't have the vaccine. where are we on the front of
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developing a vaccine or treatments. >> we're in phase one early clinical trials of a few different vaccines. one of those trials has been stopped. unfortunately just for a few weeks, they were trying to find out why some volunteers had developed joint pain this their hands and feet. we still have to question why don't we already have a vaccine. the world health organization and other partners have been working on a vaccine for about ten years. but they didn't have enough resources. the nih here in the u.s. did not have enough resources, did not have enough support to make sure we would be ready. we're about ten years behind. >> you didn't have the support because let's be honest you didn't have the right people getting sick. if you had people in the more developed world, people who have more money, getting sick you would have had more movement. both on the public field and the private field. >> that is exactly right. >> that is an a reality of the human condition. is that often too many who help themselves get help first. >> and also we're seeing it again now that the headlines and news cameras are moving away from the ebola epidemic because we don't have cases in the u.s.
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any more we have to question what does that say about us that there was a near hysteria in parts of the u.s. and we had a few cases here there are still thousands dieing in west africa and it seems that we don't care as much. >> you don't want to learn the hard way. you want to treat it where it is and help others the and we're seeing commitment from the u.s. and others. another thing you got me scared about now, i'm not going to get ebola, but i'm going 0 get the flu and you're making me get this shot and it's not going to work because the flu has changed. what's the reality? >> don't be scared. fear is never helpful. >> too late. >> it's important to get educated. the truth is it's a guessing game with the flu vaccine. we start thinking in february the flu season will start later in the year but what strains will we see? what should we put in the flu vaccine? forecast flu shots protect against three or four different strains of the flu. even if it's not a perfect match against one particular strain it's still a good idea for to you get the flu shot it will protect you against other flu strains. and even if you get the flu, once you've got the shot which can happen you're less likely
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to get very sick. >> so it even though it's imperfect. it's still your best bet? >> absolutely. it's one of our best weapons in our tool kit against infectious diseases. >> doctor i wish you the best for the new year. checking headlines at the news desk in a moment. plus what were the best tweets of 2014? and who must you follow in 2015? that's ahead on this special holiday edition of "new day."
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>> why are you whispering? >> they're hung over. >> we check out the top twitter trends of the year. what big events were the most discussed on social media? and what are the big tech trends coming your way this year? we look at the must-have gadgets. also do you have oscar fever yet? hollywood is getting ready to celebrate its best and brightest. what you need to know about the upcoming awards season. first, let's get you up to date on the headlines of the day at the news desk. happy new year to all of you i'm john berman about 25 minutes after the hour right now. the search for more victims in the fuselage of airasia flight 8501 is back under way this morning. despite rain and four-foot waves in the java sea official says it could take a week or more before the plane's flight data and voice recorders are finally located. nine of the 162 people on board have been recovered. and cnn has learned that the "uss fort worth" could be dispatched to the search area today. we want to get the latest from
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cnn's david molko, live in surabaya indonesia. good morning, david. >> good morning, good evening from here in surabaya. i want to head straight out to the search zone with some additional information coming in to us. we talked about how the number of bodies recovered has gone up from eight to nine in the last hour. now we're learning that two of those nine are now on a plane on their way here to surabaya. six already have been brought to the police hospital just next to where i'm standing. and additional two in the air will be received we expect at the military base by indonesian troops carried, the coffins carried off the planes put in ambulances and brought here to the police hospital. a few hours ago, a sobering moment here as the first victim of the airasia flight was formally identified she is a mother a sister and a wife she was on that airasia flight traveling to singapore. unfortunately with her husband and her daughter.
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john we're seeing this a lot with the passenger manifest. hayati hamid was number 158, a lot of those traveling on this flight were traveling for the holidays. we travel with our families somewhere to celebrate the new year. or to visit family. and we're seeing that on the passenger manifest two, three, even seven members of the same family. the family crisis center where families continue to wait. earlier today, up to 100 family members and their supporters. religious officials, neighbors, friends, teachers were here to support them. they are still waiting for answers about the fate of their loved ones. john? >> david molko, what a loss it is for them. of course today is new year's day. 2015. and now the countdown is over. the clean-up begins in times square. an estimated one million people ushered in the new year at the annual ball drop marking the
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occasion with hugs kisses and some tears. happy new year to all of you. let's go back now to chris, alisyn and michaela. some of this year's biggest moments and conversations played out on social media. people around the world tweeted to express outrage when grand juries in new york and ferguson came back. and to express their delight and joy when say their favorite teams pulled off big surprises. so here to take us through all of it is rachel millner, who manages product communication at twitter. >> happy new year. >> you have put together the top five tweets. you close them because they resonated around the world. let's look at those. so the first one is it says here the civil rights act is 50 years old, these two pictures were taken 50 years apart. and this is the #ferguson. tell us about this one. >> in august around michael brown's death. we saw the emergence of the #ferguson. this photo is one of the examples of the many millions of
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tweets that really reflect that movement. you know people came to twitter to not only send dispatches from on the ground witnesses to the crime. and express as you said shock and outrage and awe. but many other millions of us were just watching it unfold on twitter. and interestingly enough it really inspired lots more hash tags so black lives matter and i can't breathe and hands up don't shoot. we saw something not only very local in missouri and of course related to the staten island case and eric garner but become a global conversation. next picture this one speaks for itself the #bringbackourgirls. this is about the boko haram case and this hash tag took off around the world. >> again, this is a perfect example of how global twitter is something that started off in nigeria and then of course you know we sort of tracked this conversation as it spread from this relatively small community to around the world.
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and of course the first lady got involved. amy poehler, hillary clinton and of course you know average citizens demanding the return of these young women to their family. and it was a really powerful thing to witness of course. >> here is here's another one that here we go. they didn't want to show this one. this one is mildly amusing. this was, the #sochi problems. about the olympic games. and you see the message is who needs walls? >> yeah. i mean this is one of the humorous examples of things that happen. the olympics are always huge on twitter. global games, nothing more real-time than sports. but this one of those serendipitous, delightful things that came out about everyone experiencing hotel snafus and water and lack of walls and electricity. and the new unofficial event, the sochi selfies. where all the athletes were around the world were sharing their victories and day in the life of an olympic athlete. >> i want to show two more fun
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ones. the next one is a #thingstimhowardcouldsave. tell bus this one. >> well of course like i said nothing is more real-time than sports. the world cup happened in 2014. we saw a huge huge many hundreds of millions of tweets sent about the games. but you know who can forget our own tim howard and his sort of amazing save. and of course inspired this meme that took off of you know being able to save ned stark. among other things we might have liked to see saved. super delightful fun to watch unfold. >> the next one is the selfie seen round the world, ellen's selfie from the oscars. >> yeah so we've crowned ellen's tweet the golden tweet. the tweet that we recognize every year on twitter that has the most retweets. ellen's was retweeted many millions of times over three million and of course seen by billions of people around the world. it helps of course having some
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of the world's biggest stars in yourselfie. >> and most beautiful indeed. can you tell us this is about the power of the hash tag. can you tell bus this graphic that's lighting up around the world. what is this? >> so i think what we're see something sort of how something that starts very local can end up being super global and just takes off. and sparks. because twitter is public because it's real-time. because it's conversational there's no borders between what you're tweeting what i'm tweeting and then of course once people start retweeting you're getting in a matter of seconds really tweets from all corners of the world. from people you don't know. but have this connection with. >> now you're going to tell us who you think we should follow. the must-follows in 2015. first you say, katy perry. isn't that so 2014? >> i don't know. i mean she's doing this super bowl halftime show. so i feel like 2015 is going to be another year for katy perry.
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she's great on twitter. she's super reaches out to her fans. responds to her fans. shares a lot about her life and on the road. and that makes her really entertaining tweets and content. >> next two celebrities, anna kendrick neil patrick layers why do you want us to follow them. >> anna kendrick is a huge favorite of mine. she's also again someone who is very candid on twitter, and live tweets shows and you really feel like you get a sense of who she is which is really fun. and neil patrick harris, twitter is an awesome complement to live tv the ellen selfie was last year's oscars neil patrick paris is the harris is the host of this year's oscars. >> samantha cristoforetti. >> i think 2015 will be a super celestial year. she's the first female italian
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astronaut. currently at the international space station and is tweeting out beautiful breathtaking photos of space. and so yes, you should get on board. >> like all good italians, sometimes she tweets her food. even though she's in space, she can't help but tweet what she's eating on the international space station. and maureen evans, tell us why this is a must-follow? >> this is more something you might not expect from twitter. but maureen evans has a handle @cookbook. she tweets out 140-character recipes. anyone who likes to cook or be impressed by the fact thee xi can condense a recipe to 140 characters should give it a try. >> rachel mill dlner, thanks so much for assembling these boards it will be fun to follow. how about a little new day love. alisyn camerota is fun, she's fun in 2015. that would have been my choice. when it comes to tweeting and everything else we do it on these, your cell phone
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cnn money tech correspondent is lori siegel. looking forward for us. happy new year. apparently the cheer got it me a little bit this year. so lots of big things in store. obviously mobile right is just sort of the way everything has been going. we're going to see it amp up a little bit in 2015? >> mobile has been huge. i think you'll see your smart phone is going to get smarter. it is possible. and it's really interesting. because think about you always have these wearables and your phone has been tracking your data. how many steps you take. whether or not you're putting in there, what you're eating. in 2015 we're going to see entrepreneurs do something powerful with that what can we do with this data? one company call aid live core, they built in a piece of hardware people can put their fingerprints on there. it will tell you if you have an irregular heartbeat, and also if you're at risk for a stroke. this is fda approved.
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i think what we're going it see is theyed that we have all of this data how do we make our lives actually better. >> and put it in the palm of our hands. >> and potentially prevent something horrific happening with health. >> so obviously we've heard of some of the dating apps none of us i think have used them here i won't talk about that now. but we know that dating has changed since the last while since any of us were dating, it is going to kind of be changed yet again because of technology. we've seen what's tinder and all of these other dating websites. >> i would like to say 2015 mark my words, is the year that love is going to be disrupted by technology. >> not for the bet centre. >> maybe for good and maybe some for bad. >> what's the bad? >> let plea start with the good and i'll get into the bad. >> you lead with the negative ironic. >> it's the news business. >> it used to be you had match.com, e-hormny online and now there's offline. now your mobile device has changed everything. what entrepreneurs are doing is
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trying to mimic what you're doing in real life. let's say i want to be introduced to one of your friends to go on a date with. now there's a an app called hinge, it takes your facebook friends, creates an algorithm, via geolocation delivers me a map of friends. cutting out the middleman. so then we look at something like tinder. you might back in the old days might go into a bar, look to your left think someone's cute decide you like them or look the other way. now there's an app for that it uses geolocation, can you swipe through profiles of people you like somebody you swipe one way, you don't, you swipe the other way and then another one this one just hit new york city this is huge in europe is called happen. and you guys remember craigslist the missed connections, you saw someone on the subway. now they're constantly using geolocation. to say, these are all the people you passed in the day. do you like any of them?
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if they like you back -- >> dangerous. how do you stay safe with everybody knowing where you are. >> it's scary because it's geolocation and we have to take note of that. another scary thing i think, what you got to in the beginning is there's so many options at your fingertips you're swiping through people you don't want them to become pixels you got to put in the hard work. >> i want to you talk to us about a little of the tech backlash we're hearing about. what is this? >> it's safe to say we're all kind of addicted to our phones and tablets at this point. what a lot of entrepreneurs in silicon valley are talking about is social responsibility. so think about your kids always on these tablets. one really interesting company is trying to bring kids offline, but using technology it's called cano. this looks like a bunch of pieces. but this is actually takes about ten minutes to put together. and once you put it together this is the brain to a computer. plug it into a pc and it works
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and your kids can learn how to code and it's this idea of these are the old legos, but you put them together and something kind of magic happens. so let's not make technology limited to one screen that's something we're going to be seeing. last but not least, security we learned at the end of the last year when things can go terribly wrong. obviously improvements we made. >> you know it's been horrific seeing what's happened with sony. you know this is very violating. but a lot of entrepreneurs and former hackers are coming together and creating encryption devices. let's say you use a messaging app called what's app? they teamed up with something called tech secure, it encrypts your messaging, so those meks are more protected. during the whole sony backlash i got a message from mark cuban. has an app he just invested in called cyberdusk. and he said one of the reasons you didn't see more information on me from the sony hack is i sent all my messages through cyberdust, an encrypted type of
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app. selling his product a little bit, let's be honest. but we're seeing so many of these apps focus on encryption. that's something we're going to see in the next in 2015. it will be easier to use, too. >> hang on old man, you'll be okay. >> somewhere ned ludd is rolling over. it's too much too soon. >> thanks so much. so who will be the big break-out stars in 2015? we're taking a look at what could happen in the hollywood trifecta the golden globes the s.a.g. awards and the oscars who's star is on the rise? could there be someone destined for the d-list? none of those people.
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♪♪ bunoano as our people would say. happy new year. it's a special edition of new year's day. even though new year's eve celebration are still going on in your houses we're looking forward to hollywood, the biggest parties of their year the golden globes we know who is nominated there and who wasn't and of course what it all suggests about the oscars. so let's discuss what happened and what will happen all the glitz and glam everything in between with ms. initial turner big shot entertainment anchor joining us here. >> come on. >> happen pay new year to you. >> happy new year my family. how are you guys? >> great. >> we miss you. help us my friend tell us let's deal with what we know
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already. the golden globes the first shocker is, where are all the big money movies at? these are all small films, right? >> exactly. that's what i've been asking. it's the year of the independent films and i know studios probably have to be shaking in their boots because they've spent hundreds of millions of dollars on the big budget films and not getting any love come awards season. i have to tell you the films that are nominated, we're talking globes now, the films that were nominated for the best drama for the golden globes every single one of the films is an absolutely great film. they all in my opinion could be the winner and i don't think anybody could really make an argument the other way because they're all really good. they're all very different, and so i'm really excited to see, but i do like the fact that we're seeing these kind of smaller art house films, films that actors are doing because they love the material be recognized. >> are these the same films, nischelle, are these your
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predictions for the oscars? >> that's a good question. >> let's talk. >> alisyn, i always zig when everybody else zags. last year everybody thought i was a nut case because "the wolf of wall street" was my film. >> i loved it too. >> while it got nominations it didn't win anything. once again i'm on that train, the movie that i loved this year "gone girl" is kind of overlooked in a lot of categories except for the best actress for roslind pike. she was good in this film. i also love "selma" and birdman." i think "birdman" will be one of the surprise hits. >> we'll talk about zigging and zagging, home boy is upset angelina got snubbed. lot of people were surprised. do you think we'll see some nominations to are her at other awards shows coming up? that's getting such a lot of buzz.
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>> chris cuomo, cover your ears for this. >> i'll take a nap. >> i'm with you being shocked that angelina didn't get a nomination especially for the golden globes in directing for this film because the hollywood foreign press love her, and i have to tell you, i know you've seen the film chris, it's a tough film to watch but you know it's also a tough film to direct and i think she did a masterful job handling all the elements in this film so i am surprised she hasn't gotten more love for this. now, if she didn't get a nomination for a s.a.g. award and didn't get a nomination for a golden globe award, the chances she will be recognized by the academy for an os consider were theoscar are slim. i hate to diminish this down to a woman and woman, if angelina doesn't get nominated will ava dubernet be nominated, the first black woman nominated in the best director category at the golden globes for "selma" and i think the love for her is
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starting to build and grow so we could see her sneak in there come academy time. >> i want to talk about the digital world because that's where i spend a lot of my time. >> yes. >> there really are so many -- amazon prime has some great stuff, netflix is doing some crazy stuff. what more do you think we'll see in terms of nods to that realm? >> well they're already cleaning up at the golden globes. "orange is the new black" nominated for several awards and "house of cards" we can't say it's the best show on television because it's not on television but that material is so good that is like one of the best shows that's out there now and the new show "transparent" on amazon that's interesting issues, the transgender community, jeffrey tambourd gets a lot of love and recognition and the streaming services is
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saying step up your game networks. we're here to play. >> the whole binge thing, i have portion control problems wherever they present themselves as an option so i'm trying to deal with the new normal there. >> stick with me kid. >> i go through a spacy series. >> how much at a series? >> all of them. i don't joke around. that's a blessing and a curse. i forget two months later and get to rewatch it. nischelle, give us what is a good guess. everybody cares about the oscars most let's be honest. actor and actress, throw a couple names people may be surprised by or that you like whatever you want. >> okay well first of all in the actor category i think that this is michael keyaton's year for "birdman." he was so good. it touched a nerve in hollywood because he plays a washed up actor trying to regain the love from hollywood, a former superhero that doesn't have it anymore. people in hollywood say that
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could be me. he does a great job. this could be his year and female side there's a couple of movies that i really really liked but i think this could be julianne moore's year for "still alice. she plays an early onset alzheimer's patient and the film is heartbreaking. she gives a master class in acting in this movie and it's brilliant. alec baldwin and christiane stewart is in the movie and julianne moore and rosalynd pike she carried "gone girl." i know other people were in it but i didn't see anybody else. look for them and also look for either "birdman" or maybe even "the theory of everything" sneak in there for a best picture. "selma" is coming on strong because of the relevancy we see in the country and the film is a really good film so people are starting to take notice so you never know what could be a spoiler this year. >> folks at home are making lists, got to check out the
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films. nischelle thanks for joining us. >> you guys got to get to the theater. i know you have to go g to bed early, but work with me >> matinees baby. matinees. with so many big stories in 2014 stories without closure or resolution what could be the biggest headlines in 2015? we're putting on our nostra nostra damus hat. >> what would be the plural of nostra us, nostra dami? experts are looking at the landscape and telling you what 2015 could be about -- or not. but let's see what they say. thanks. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] fedex® has solutions to enable global commerce that can help your company grow steadily and quickly. great job. (mandarin) ♪ ♪
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-- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com a break in the weather has search teams scrambling to find more victims and the fuselage of airasia flight 8501. >> we have the first formal identification of one of the passengers on that flight. >> the weather unfortunately is not looking good for the next two or three days but it's slowing us down. >> waves of up to three or four meters in some places making it difficult if not impossible for divers to enter the water. >> there are conflicting reports from indonesian officials about whether a sonar image has located wreckage. >> the airline's ceo emphatically declared the plane still missing. >> i think the indonesians have done an outstanding job in pinpointing the crash site. >> good morning, everyone. happy new year. welcome to "new day." i'm john berman. it is thursday january 1st 8:00 in the east.
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the search for the wreckage of airasia flight 8501 and its passengers it did resume this morning after a brief break in the weather, but the search has just been suspended. the conditions very volatile and nightfall setting in. so far nine of the 162 people on board have been recovered. the first victim has now been identified. at this hour there are still critical questions about the flight's final moments, new questions, in fact did the pilots change in altitude captured on radar cause the jet to stall and perhaps simply fall from the sky? we're covering the story from every angle and all the key locations. let's begin with gary tuchman live from the new crisis family center in surabaya in indonesia. good morning, gary. >> reporter: john good morning to you. it has now been nearly five days since the crash of this airasia plane and nearly five days of miserable weather conditions for the search. there was a brief respite today
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for the ships and the planes that are out there, but right now we're experiencing monsoon-like rains all over this region. it's creating problems. as you just mentioned, nine bodies have been recovered, but there are still 153 people to be found. from the air and on the water, this morning weather conditions improving enough to give search teams a small window to continue the arduous task of locating the wreckage in hopes of finding all the remaining passengers and of getting the plane's critical black boxes. at least eight bodies have been recovered. authorities have now identified the first victim. medical personnel are at the ready to receive more victims. this as new questions are raised about the final moments of the ill-fated flight. about 35 minutes after takeoff, the pilot asked air traffic control for permission to climb to a higher altitude due to bad weather. that request was denied because of other planes in the area and
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that was the last time air traffic control heard from the captain. minutes later, flight 8501 dropped from radar. >> this particular flight athad an altitude of 36,000 feet and climbing but traveling at approximately 105 miles per hour, too slow to sustain flight. >> airasia's ceo would not confirm reports that sonar equipment may have pinpointed the plane's location but this morning he posted this tweet, "i am hoping that the latest information is correct, an aircraft has been found. please all hope together. this is so important." with each arrival of remains comes the hopes for families wanting to lay their loved ones to rest. behind me is the headquarters of surabaya police department and the reason we're here is because these tents behind me have been set up for the family members of the victims, this is the new
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crisis center where family members can come for information, for compassionate care for religious pastoral counseling and they were going to the airport about an hour away from here as of yesterday. they moved them here today and the reason they moved them here to this particular location is because we're about 100 steps away from a hospital and that's the hospital where the bodies are brought for identification for autopsies and they want to have the families close by so when their loved ones are brought here, they can go to the hospital and identify them. that's all they have right now. that's all they want. that's the main question. we're being told by officials these people have come to terms with the fact their loved ones are not alive. they just want their bodies back. >> got to be so difficult for the families and recovering the bodies in the sea is just the first step. they need to get back to land as gary said so they can be identified before being transferred to the grieving families. i want to go to borneo where the recovered bodies are being taken. our paula hancocks is there
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live. good morning, paula. >> reporter: good morning, john. this is turning out to be a fairly slow process, nine victims at this point have been retrieved. now we do know that about half a dozen have come through this hospital today and basically what is happening is they come in from the ambulance that's picking them up from the portal from the airport, and then they are treated and put in the casket and basically cleaned up so the families can see them and then they are given the initial identification so we're certainly seeing a pattern emerging here. the doctors and nurses and many volunteers are getting into a routine. they usually have three people working here on this kind of work. they now have 40 including 20 volunteers. they say that they are having caskets built around the clock, they're having them built on site as well making sure they have 162, one for every member
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of that of the passengers and crew that were on that flight, but of course it is a slow process because of the weather. those waves that we understand from the search and rescue agency are three to four meters high. you can just imagine how difficult it is to try to retrieve the body from the water if you're being winched from the helicopter with those waves and for the divers the visibility is dreadful to get down below not only to find the victims of this crash but also to try and find some of the debris so they can figure out exactly what happened and give those families some answers. john? >> very difficult process, both technically and emotionally no doubt. paula hancocks on borneo thank you so much. for more we bring in cnn aviation analyst and pbs science correspondent miles o'brien, joining us also cnn safety analyst and former fda inspector david soucie also a new author of "flight 370."
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i want to start with the situation on the seas the weather problems, rough seas four-foot waves choppy rain coming in and out. it's monsoon season there. it get in the way, it slows down this recovery process. might it make some things impossible or does it just make it a longer process? >> both both john really because it's difficult in that you talk about a 10 12-foot high wave going up and down every single second and trying to figure out how to get the debris off of there. you give up on it and allow that debris to settle and allow the weather to settle. by that time everything is so widespread that the clues that we may have had on the surface are pretty well gone as far as locating the aircraft. there's no way to predict where that thing came from. >> some evidence may never be found if it continues like that. >> true it may wash up onshore months from now. >> official also start looking on the beaches because of how quickly some of this debris is moving. miles i want to talk to you about a report in the sydney
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papers in australia suggesting that what they have seen is some data showing this plane was taking an incredibly almost impossibly steep path up in flying in an almost impossibly slow speed and that's ultimately what caused it to fall into the sea. would that make sense? we have some indication of that earlier. >> this was an interesting scenario. we'll keep our eye on this one, john. it's very possible that this crew was clear of what you would call classic thunderstorm cloud near a thunderstorm and got caught up in a very severe updraft, which would have brought much warmer temperature air, obviously upward to the aircraft and that does a couple of things. it ss it's row dynamic capability and as it's coming upward it defeats the
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aerodynamics of the airplane and puts it into an aerodynamic stall. all the data i've seen there, it's not proof of it but it doesn't disprove it either and something i'm sure investigator homing in on right now. >> i'm glad you're explaining this in a way i can understand miles. what happens with the warm updraft it would lift the plane up or help it go up at a rate which is could not sustain and it wasn't flying in a fast enough speed to pull the whole thing off? >> yes, you can imagine kind of the mother of all turbulence here just a huge upswell. this is a giant thunderstorm that they're in and around monsoon season you can imagine the amount of energy that is associated with these storms not just in them but also around them because there is this cycle of air associated with thunderstorms, and if you get caught in one of those, you're going for a ride and it can be very difficult at that point, these are fly-by-wire aircraft
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flown by computers essentially. the computers quickly give up the ghost and say hey pilot, it's your airplane. you deal with it because robotic aircraft are great in routine situations. they're not so good at figuring out what's going on in the outside world. you look at the air france 447 scenario lots of bad things happened to the airplane the computers quit. it was dark in the cockpit and the pilots were in control and you have to make split-second decisions with narrow performance margins so it's very difficult to recover. >> david soucie based on what you've seen from where they found the debris and the bodies that they have found, does this scenario make sense to you and does it indicate anything about what decisions the pilots may or may not have made? >> well with regard to the debris it doesn't make a lot of sense to me because the fact that if this was what happened then there would be a large debris field and we wouldn't have found just -- from what we understand on the site they're only finding bodies and a few
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other pieces of debris not pieces of metal, not honeycomb structure, not cabinets and things we know would float from the aircraft so it's difficult to put this together. however, from this report as miles said to fly at that and the mother of all turbulence is a great way to put this except it's the mother of all turbulence with one big turbulent event. it's not like all the bounces would you experience here. one singular lift that would take the aircraft and also explain those reports we had of the aircraft going to 36,000 feet when they didn't have clearance because in this type of event to go from 32 to 36,000 can happen extremely rapidly. >> david soucie miles o'brien, thanks for being with us helping us understand the latest reports on what's going on with 8501. we want to look at more of your headlines. new year's eve celebrations turned deadly in shanghai in china. stampede along the city's historic waterfront just before midnight led to at least 35 deaths and nearly 50 injuries.
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more than a dozen of those injuries are considered serious. china's official news agency reports people started scrambling for coupons being tossed out of windows. apparently the people thought it was money. breaking overnight, kim jong-un announcing he's open to a high-level summit with south korea. in a new year's address he said is he willing to resume talks with the south koreans if they're serious will resolving differences. south korea proposed resuming negotiations earlier this week. the reunification of the korean peninsula both countries say is a top priority. former florida governor jeb bush certainly seems to be moving closer to a 2016 presidential run. he has resigned from all of his remaining board memberships, even parting ways with his own education foundation. the move does not affect business interests where the former governor is a principal partner or owner. last month he announced his intention to what he called actively explore a white house
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bid. ♪ -- five four, three, two, one! >> welcome to 2015. about 1 million people ushered in the new year with the annual ball drop in times square and marked the occasion with some hugs some kisses some people got emotional, a teary moment. now that the countdown is over it is a huge cleanup in times square so much confetti streamed down along with the ball. for the eighth straight year anderson cooper and kathy griffin were part of cnn's new year's cover am. as always there were some colorful moments. look at this one, what kathy did to anderson's hair during the live broadcast. >> just trust me this is temporary and it shows how fantastic you are. all right, open. yes! >> you got to be kidding me.
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>> yes! oh my god, what have you done? >> i dyed your hair. >> it was patriotic at least, red, white and blue anderson said. he went on to wear a hat for the rest of the show. 13 minutes after the hour was it a stall that sent the jetliner plunging into the java sea, flight 8501 with 162 people on board and what challenges lie ahead in finding the wreckage and its flight data recorders? our coverage of the airasia accident continues right after this. narrator: this is the storm sea captain: there's a storm comin narrator: that whipped through the turbine which poured... surplus energy into the plant which generously lowered its price and tipped off the house
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the search for the wreckage of flight 8501. skies broke enough tuesday to give searchers a chance to resume for a time. nine bodies have been recovered, more than 150 people remain missing. how will this rough weather affect the underwater part of the search going forward? here to discuss that and the latest developments david gallow cnn analyst and director of special project at woods hole and les abend, cnn aviation analyst and commercial airline pilot and contributing editor at "flying" magazine. david gallo, the choppy winds, monsoon, the currents here what happens to whatever debris and wreckage might be underwater at this time including perhaps the fuselage? >> well, you know at the depths we're talking about, there's going to be some movement of debris on the bottom so but not knowing exactly what the current profile is we're not going to
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know how much movement there will be. it will affect visibility but the most important thing it will affect operations at the surface. even autonomous vehicles that you've launched and recovered, they have a hard time getting those in and out of the water so it's not the best of situations at all. >> is this a timing thing or does it create the possibility that some evidence the key evidence might never be found? >> no i'm confident. you need several things. you need the right technology seems that they have that the right talent seems that they have that. they've got to have a good game plan and leadership but most importantly you need luck. you need the weather to be cooperative and as tony fernandez says, a little hope and a lot of prayer doesn't hurt. so all those things if they come together i'm confident that we'll have some answers here fairly quickly. quickly might be a week. >> les, i want to talk to you
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about what might have happened in the air. there is a reportous of australia, some say the data is showing this flight in its last moments was flying at an impossibly steep incline at an impossibly slow rate of speed augusting maybe some kind of supercell or hit some updraft in a storm system there. does that make any sense to you? >> it does make sense. i'd certainly want to get verification on the credibility of that data because it seems a little implausible. however, thunderstorms in that area of the country we've been talking about the inner tropical convergence zone is severe stuff but indicates to me there was a pilot with 20,000 hours that wasn't in control of his aircraft. if it was me in that situation by then i would have the autopilot disconnected and making an attempt to control the airplane and it doesn't seem to be any indication that was occurring but you know indeed that rate of climb within a building thunderstorm cell is certainly possible. the ground speed is suspect. it shows a very slow ground speed with my understanding, so
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you know i don't hold a lot of water on that particular data. >> if you're flying a plane, les, what gets you into the situation where all of a sudden the plane goes up like that? >> a building thunderstorm with primarily updrafts and most thunderstorms in their developing stage also have drowndrafts so the airplane is subjected to some very nasty turbulence sometimes, but it's a controllable situation. this is an airplane designed to handle that kind of situation. >> you say it's controllable. does it ever get so bad it's not controllable? >> are things called we rate turbulence from light to moderate to severe and even to extreme where you don't have control of the aircraft so the short answer is yes. it's not a very it's a very very extremely rare occurrence. >> david, let's go back underwater for a moment here. there were those reports early yesterday that perhaps they had some kind of imagery suggesting that they had spotted the fuselage underwater.
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they weren't sure yet. 24 hours after the fact and still no confirmation of it. is that something that concerns you? >> what concerns me is people are getting conflicting information and brings me back to flight 370, the kinds of words they were using they saw a shadow. there's shadows involved with sonar but people in the biz don't talk that way so i don't know the credibility of that source. i hope like tony fernandez is that's true. they need to get a camera to have what we call ground troops. sonar is a shadow an image made with sound and they need cameras to ground truth it. >> that's why they need the weather to clear. david gallo, les abend, thanks for being with us. appreciate it. up next cnn got rare access with a grieving family of the doomed flight's pilot. how the family is coping with all this uncertainty and grief. more of our continuing coverage of the clash of airasia flight
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good morning everyone. welcome back to "new day." i'm john berman. i want to get to the latest developments in the search for airasia flight 8501. crews were able to get back out on the water thanks to a break in the bad weather but they had to retreat again as rough conditions returned. nightfall arriving. nine bodies have now been recovered, 153 souls remain missing. the first victim has been positively identified two more bodies are being flown back to land at this moment. right now questions are emerging about what radar data shows about the flight's final moments, and a big change in altitude that could have led to a stall ultimately sending the plane plummeting into the ja is asea.
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we're covering the story from every angle beginning with paula hancocks live from born know where the recovered bodies are being brought to be identified. good morning, paula. >> reporter: hello, john. half a dozen bodies have been through this hospital in the past 24 hours. they're here to be treated and the preliminary identification of course are very important factor for those families. sirens in the night announce their arrival. victims of flight 8501 on dry land and rushed into this hospital at pangalanbun. the next morning two more bodies arrive. red cross and hospital workers take them to a private wing to be prepared for the next stop identification by distraught families. the hospital director says he's here 24 hours a day to give the deceased the respect they
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deseven. "because they've been in the water some days" he tells me "the bodies are swollen, but otherwise they're intact." patients look unsomberly their own ailments forgotten in the face of such tragedy. coffins are being delivered to give dignity to those who lost their lives so suddenly. this hospital has never had to deal with a tragedy on this scale before. they have about two dozen caskets at the moment being built as we speak. the hospital director says they will have 162, one for every victim of this crash. final player for each soul. the victims religion may not be known but customs must still be observed. their time on earth is over says this pastor so many of our prayers are for the family. we ask god to receive their body answer give the families strength. one step closer to their final
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resting place. so few victims have been found and treated, so many more still wait to be pulled from their watery graves. fears now are that that number could dwindle even more. officials saying over the next few days the weather conditions will not be good, so all the search and rescue teams can do is sit, wait and hope for a break in the weather. john? >> has to be so frustrating for them. paula hancocks on borneo island thanks so much. hundreds of friends and family members are clinging to hope refusing to rule out the possibility that their loved ones could still be alive, including the family of the doomed flight's pilot. cnn's gary tuchman got rare access to the pilots family and joins us live from surabaya with their story. hello, gary. >> reporter: hello, i don't know. 153 people are still missing, one of them is the captain of
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the airasia plane, so just who is this man? we talked to the people who know him best. we talked to people who love him very much. we talked to his wife, his parents, and his children. this is what it looks like today in the home of the captain of airasia flight 8501. this is captain iriyato's 24-year-old daughter angela and wife widja, his 7-year-old son arja. this is his father. this his mother in a house full of family and friends, a house so full that more people are outside in front of the home as well as out in the street. this is a liat the indonesian name for the traditional visit made when there is a death in the family but angela still talks in the present tense about a father she adores. >> translator: is he kind wise and humorous. he's easygoing. he's intelligent. he never raises his voice. he's never angry.
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i'm very proud of him. >> reporter: family and friends occasionally glance at the tv that stays on with nonstop corrage of the airasia crash. pictures of iriyanto are all over the home a wedding photo, a picture when he was an air force pilot. he went from the air force to airlines for 13 years and moved on to airasia six years ago. one of his friends paying his respects the pilot for another airline. what kind of pilot was your friend? >> translator: he is a very responsible pilot. we used to be in the air force together. he's very loyal. he's very kind. in his work environment he's very kind to his co-pilot his cabin crew his ground crew and all the people who fly with him. >> reporter: model planes of jets iriyto flew are part of the decoration of the house. his wife says the outpouring of support at their home is invaluable right now. >> translator: i'm happy so many people are here. it gives support to me and my
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family. >> reporter: like so many families of airasia victims, there was significant hope of survival among members of this family when the wreckage was still missing, but iriyanto's daughter doesn't want to abandon all hope at least until her father's body is found. >> translator: of course i still expect that he's alive but at the same time i have to accept the reality. >> reporter: and that's why many of these same family and friends will be back here tomorrow and for days after, offering their support and their love. in addition to this being horribly difficult, it's also very personal time so we very much appreciate the family letting us in the home to tell the story. i mentioned that his name is captain iriyanto. many people in indonesia only have one name, they don't have a last name so that his whole name iriyanto and he has a lot of people family and friends, who love him very much. john back to you.
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>> so many people around the world thinking of the captain and his family thanks for that report. for more we bring in cnn aviation analyst and pbs science correspondent miles o'brien and cnn safety analyst and former faa safety inspector david soucie. we watched paula hancocks report about taking care of the bodies. she noted the bodies are being recovered intact. now this is a detail that is difficult to discuss, gruesome in some ways but again it does give us some information about the investigation itself. if these bodies are intact what does it tell you? >> john i've done several of these types of accidents where the aircraft broke up in flight or had a rapid deceleration and dead stall like this. the challenge with me is that this mosaic of riddles that we're going through right now still has so many unanswered questions. so it's difficult to have conclusions. however, the fact that the bodies were completely intact tells me that there was no
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dramatic event as far as an aircraft crashing into the water, because every single one of these that i've investigated that's not the case. so again we're trying to put the details together to take one out of this mosaic and make sense of it is difficult to do but it just right now it doesn't mach any sense. >> it didn't break up in the air, and all hikely hood it did not probably hit the water that hard. >> right, because it doesn't take much at that point if you're in a dead stall and you have no forward air speed to ditch the aircraft takes a lot of air speed. you can't just drop it in. >> and the fact they haven't recovered more bodies at this point, there could be many wearing seat belts in the fuselage correct? >> absolutely. that's typically what would happen especially landed if ditching arrangement. >> miles i want to you help us understand some of the latest reporting we're getting out of the "sydney morning herald" suggesting the flight 8501 was climbing at a very, very steep
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rate in the last few moments climbing slowly as well. this perhaps due to the weather. we had some images here to show the weather that was in the area at the time i think very very very stormy conditions. you can see right there, that was the weather these pilots and that plane was facing. explain to us simply as you do so well what this means. >> think about a thunderstorm as a heat engine and it's basically a cycle of moisture that is condensing and hot air which is rising. it kind of goes in that circle and depending on where you are in relation to the storm, and in this case assume for a moment that this aircraft was outside the actual cell most pilots would not fly into a cell knowingly that would not be prudent but in the proximity of it there's all kinds of things that can happen that energy is going up and so you have to
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remember when we talk about speed, the key speed is the speed as which the air molecules are passing over the wing not the ground speed and that could be two different things. if you're flying into a head wind that can provide the speed of the molecules. knowledge for a moment you have the air molecules passing over it a couple hundred miles an hour and this is an upswell of warm air which undermines the air speed. it's not unlike wind sheer. it really is a wind sheer event, something we're more accustomed to hearing about close to landing when you get the dramatic changes in air speed suddenly can literally knock an airplane out of the air. if you're riding one of the upsells the computers might hand control over to the crew at a time when things are going wrong quickly and you have a narrow envelope of flight because
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you're up so high. the difference between stall speed and too fast is a narrow band and so you can imagine a scenario where they were moving around the thunderstorm but maybe got a little too close and one of the upswells came along and basically took the wind out from underneath the wings. >> miles, just looking at that map again, that was a great explanation of how much red and how many storms were in the area you know do you think they were perhaps too ready to fly when the conditions were like that might it have been more prudent to keep some of the planes on the ground? >> well, you know hindsight is 20/20. i can tell you now there wouldn't be many airliners that would take off if they were worried about thunderstorms 100 or so miles ahead. thunderstorms are dynamic. they live and die. the real power of them can be over the course of only 20 minutes, so you can take off, see a line of thunderstorms. by the time you get to them in the airplane they're gone or dissipated and you can find your way through it. the key is to be constantly
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making this decision as you're flying using your onboard weather radar, talking to air traffic controllers, listening to the ride reports on flights that have gone ahead of you, but in the end, using the most important instrument on board, this is daylight the most important instrument they had were their own eyes to look out the window and see what they saw and it's still possible that they saw what seemed to be a clear shot and an updraft could have gotten. >> one more reason we need the cockpit voice recorder to find out what was going on and what they did see. miles o'brien, david soucie thanks so much for being with us. 38 minutes after the hour. as investigators try to piece together what brought down this plane, a lot of comparisons are being made to air france flight 447. why did the airasia flight apparently climb in altitude after being told to wait? cnn's coverage of the crash of airasia flight 8501 continues right after this.
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pilots handled rough weather after requesting an altitude change. the crash is prompting a lot of comparisons to air france flight 447 which crashed into the atlantic after a midair stall in 2009. here to help us sort through these new developments, dr. alan diehl, former accident investigator for the ntsb and author of "air safety investigators." thanks for with being with us. the air france comparison is one we heard from the beginning, the midair stall. does this make sense to you? >> absolutely but of course everything is very preliminary right now, and of course you know there's even a better accident john and that is the one that occurred last july over north africa, the air algier accident. it wasn't an airbus but the aircraft entered the weather system a thunderstorm if you will told the controllers they have to turn around and in that case it broke up midair unlike the air france accident which literally fell in a deep stall,
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aerodynamic stall from 30 feet feet and hit intact. >> these were different planes. how did the aircraft different between air france 447 and 8501? >> well the airasia 8501 is of course a smaller version of the airbus and we know the problem on the air france 330 airbus was also involved with a failure of the air speed sensing devices, they iced up at the high altitudes and caused erroneous indications in the cockpit. as an aviation psychologist we always look at what information the pilots had, and we don't know anything about that just yet. clearly the recorders are key and the fact that two of the bodies at least two of the bodies were naked in this airasia crash suggests that there almost certainly had to be some kind of inflight breakup, at least those are the indications. the fact that some of the bodies
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are clothed suggests some passengers and the flight attendant was still within the fuselage within they died. >> 8501 is the airbus 320 even have the pilot tubes that froze in air france flight 447? >> well, certainly they have pilot tubes. i understand it's a different manufacturer and these model pilot tubes, john have not had a failure history like the ones that were on aboard air france. >> again, this is just another reason why we need to get a hold of the flight data recorders to find out exactly what was going on at the controls when this flight went down. there is this new report this morning, dr. diehl, about the possibility that the plane was flying at an impossibly steep incline and then flying at a speed that was as they say almost impossibly slow. what would cause that to take place? >> well miles talked about what happens in a thunderstorm just a minute ago.
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clearly an updraft could make the aircraft climb uncontrolled climb, in other words, uncommanded by the pilots. the fact that the air speed information that we have now says it was too slow also may be erroneous, because we don't know that that's air speed. it may well be a ground speed report and miles explained the difference earlier. so until we get those recorders and know what was really going on inside that cockpit, and inside the mind of the two pilots we really this information is very preliminary, and it may not mean that the pilots did anything wrong. we've also heard people criticize the pilots for climbing without having permission from air traffic control, in a very strong updraft, they could have been literally sucked up into the higher altitudes without doing anything. >> dr. diehl last question. we know the debris they found, most was about 160 miles, well over 100 miles from the point of
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last known radar contact. does that distance tell you anything? initially we thought it was much much closer. >> well we all know about winds and currents but when aircraft break up in thunderstorms the it he brie can be very widely scattered, even initially, and you know john that might be the problem with the voice recorders and the data recorder i should say, they're in the tail section. if we had an inflight breakup and the tails do come off sometimes in thunderstorms, that could be many miles away from the rest of the floating debris and the submerged debris and remember on a submerged debris this say former world war ii war zone. could be another relic from an earlier war. >> dr. alan diehl, thanks for being with us. really appreciate your insight this morning. happy new year to you. >> thank you, john. investigators are carefully examining the debris that they have from the crash of airasia flight 8501 but so many questions remain unanswered.
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les abend, cnn analyst and commercial pilot and contributing editor for "flying" magazine. jeff you're sort of our resident skeptic on flight investigations here. what are the big questions or at least the one big burning question you still have? >> well i mean well it's a fog of questions at this point. we have very little information and the information that we do have we don't really know the providence of it so we don't know where some of these assertions are comeing from. really i want to know are they listening for the black box pingers? are they pulling these towed pinger locators through the water near where the plane was last located? even though we don't have enough data from the debris field yet to probably do a comprehensive drift model to work backwards to the point of impact most loss of control accidents wind up with the plane hitting the grouped or the water within about 20 nautical miles of the lost point of last known
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location. so they have enough i think to start towing for the pinger. the pingers as we know well from the mh307 days only last for 30 days. they should start listening now even'information is incomplete start listening for the pingers and try to really hone in on the black boxes. in a way focusing too exclusively on the floating debris is a distraction. the real brass ring they're trying to get are the black boxes like here this orange box is what it really is. that's what they need and i hope that they're looking for it. we don't have any information about that yet. >> les, one of the questions you have about the last moments of flight? >> the questions that i have is once again a lot of conflicting data which can typical of accident investigation. what bothers me if this was a controlled situation that am some point from 32,000 feet
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there was no call that went out, even if there was a possibility of both engines flaming out, in other words, being inoperative because of encountering heavy turbulence that airplane was still very controllable. that's the way the airbus is designed and no call got out at all to say hey, as captain sullenberger had indicated, we're going in the hudson. we're doing something. so that concerns me from the standpoint of did we have a breakup in flight maybe instead or do we have an uncontrollable airplane. >> jeff most recent report the flight was climbing at a very very steep incline, impossibly steep by some accounts and also flying very very slowly does that make sense to you? what questions does that raise for you? >> well if the data is true then it must be possible because it must have happened and one can imagine these intense updrafts up to 100 miles per hour is really large, intense thunderstorms, so you can imagine a case in which a plane
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is flying with a moderate air speed and yet gets uk issed up into the air essentially. >> remember it's important to distinguish between ground speed and actual air speed and the air data from the air traffic control would have been ground speed. >> excellent point. what you're seeing is not the speed through the air of the plane, what you're seeing is a projection onto the horizontal plane of that motion through the air, so we do have to realize that for instance if it's only going -- it might only read 50 knots but if it's going upwards it's actually moving much faster. >> all of the answers will come when they have the flight data recorder we have a model of it here. they say they could have them in their hands within a week. les abend, jeff wise great to have you here with us appreciate it. cnn's coverage of airasia flight 8501 continues with "newsroom" with carol costello right after a short break. ess, one must project success. that's why we use fedex one rate®.
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wreckage strong wind heavy rain and big waves are holding back divers and their investigation of a so-called shadow on the ocean floor. now without confirmation that it's the bulk of the airliner officials say it could take a week to locate the so-called black boxes. they contain the crucial information that could explain
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