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searchers just found another body in the java sea as they look for crash victims of 8501. >> four bodies have been recovered today which brings the
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number of victims found to 35. >> and nine of those 35 have been identified. one is a 10-year-old girl. her nickname is stevie. you see her at the bottom of your screen here with her familiarly. she was wearing her favorite mini mouse t-shirt on that doomed flight. >> the search continues, indonesian officials say there is a strong possibility the plane's engine iced due to weather and that the icing led to the aircraft stalling. they cannot confirm that without the black boxes which we have to point out are still missing. >> for relatives on those onboard it's been eternity. 35 bodies, as we've said, have been recovered and search crews continue to comb the java sea. joining us now is our aviation analyst jeff wise, author of "extreme fear: the science of your mind and danger." jeff, i want to get to something we've been soliciting questions from our viewers on twitter.
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and although we're hearing from indonesian officials that they believe the engine iced over and then the engine stalled, we have one person who says engines don't ice over, wings ice over. explain that if you would. >> right. the main danger posed by icing is indeed you get accumulations of ice on the leading edge of the wing. for instance if, you're flying through a cloud and the droplets of super cold water adhere to the leading edge and it turns to ice, you get huge chunks of ice forming that, destroys the aerodynamic lift. the wing can eventually stall. you remember the famous air crash where a plane accumulated so much ice on approach to landing that it stalled and essentially fell out of the sky. i don't know why the indonesians say they believe this happened. we just don't have enough data. there is a bunch of things based on the limited amount of information available so far.
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it would be very difficult to jum top any kind of conclusions right now. i think sounds more like speculation to me. >> yeah. and, of course, we won't get any concrete answers until these black boxes are discovered and the data is analyzed. but setting aside mh 370, that was maybe a once in history disappearance of a plane with nothing is discovered, how would you describe the pace of this recovery effort thus far? >> it's a little unusual. the debris and bodies were found pretty quickly, within 2 1/2 days they started to find this debris floating on the surface. there is almost two searches going on in parallel. you have the stuff floating on the surface and it's generally day by day drifting eastward. and then you also have a search for stuff on the bottom of the ocean that presumably is close to where the plane impacted water. that should have stayed put. you have the large pieces of the plane like the engines and
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lading gear and so forth. hopefully the tail section of the black boxes is quite close there as well. and so we hear some talk about search areas. it's not always entirely clear what they're searching for where. but what is really important is to find that stuff on the bottom of the ocean on the sea bed where the black boxes are going to be. that's where the answers are going to be. >> and, of course, the divers can't go in because the water is just too rough there. and some of the aircraft are often turned back. how troubling could these ocean currents be as they continue to, i guess, as i guess was tom fuentes who described it, these breadcrumbs are sloshed around. >> right. the breadcrumbs in the jacuzzi, as each day goes by, it is less and less useful in trying to determine the impact point which
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is where you want to look for the black box material. so they really should be looking at -- and i'm sure they are, looking at that raid yar ddar d me to determine where the plane was last known to be. most loss of control accidents have the plane being within 25 miles of the last known location. if the wing came off and severe icing that brought the plane down or other struck trstructur failure, it should be close to that point. we don't have a window into what they're doing at this point, but you should be dragging a pinger locator back and forth listening for the pingers attached to the black boxes. that's how you can most easily find them. now there have been many cases where the ping pers don't work for whatever reason. in which case you won't be able to find the pingers. and so then you might do a side scan sonar search going up and
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down and just taking images of the bottom. we heard recently that just today the problem was apparently that visibility is very bad. they sent dives down to try to visually identify the parts of the aircraft. the divers couldn't because the visibility is so bad. sonar should be able to take images nevertheless. they don't require optical visibility. they use sound. they should be able to use the pieces anyway it seems to me. >> and hopefully for the families who are waiting there in surabaya for the answers, they'll be able to employ all the resources to get the victims recovered and salvage the parts of the plane to get some answers soon. jeff wise, thanks for speaking with us this morning. >> my pleasure, thank you. >> now here are five things you need to know for your new day. number one, in about 3 1/2 hours at this point, friends and family are going to gather in new york to say good-bye to officer liu. liu is one of two police
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officers ambushed and then shot and killed by a lone gunman back in december. yesterday police lined the streets during his wake. take a look at these pictures. today's ceremony is expected to include traditions from liu's chinese heritage including buddhist monks. >> number two, north korea is slamming the u.s. over the new economic sanctions. an official statement that warns "groundlessly stirring up bad blood toward north korea will harden its will and resolution." washington cracked down concluding that north korea was behind the hack of sony pictures. number three, jury selection in the trial of boston marathon terror suspect begins tomorrow. the 21-year-old is accused of being a willful con spirtor in a deadly attack that killed three people and injured 264 more back in april of 2013. defense attorneys suggest he was controlled by his older brother who was killed in a
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confrontation with police three days after that bombing. number four, an american health care worker who had high risk exposure as it's characterized to ebola in west africa is due to arrive today in the u.s. the patient will be treated at nebraska medical center, one of just four u.s. hospitals with bioconta biocontainment units. the patient who is working in sierra leone is not sick and, therefore, not contagious. and number five, if you have not just peeked outside today, it's going to be cold. severe cold, in fact. there is a front pushing east threatening to brit coldest temperatures this winter. for all of our friends in minneapolis and chicago, your temperatures in the next few days could feel, get this 20 to 30 degrees below zero. bundle up. all right, a sea of dark blue will fill the streets of new york in just a few hours,
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3 1/2 hours from now, as police officers prepare to say good-bye to one of their own. ♪
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it was a normal day on the job when two officers were killed on the job. today friends, family, colleagues all saying good-bye to officer liu at a private funeral in new york. this is pictures wrf the services will be held in 3 1/2 hours. liu was just 12 years old when his parents immigrated to the united states from china. and today's funeral will combine traditions from his chinese heritage as well as traditions among the nypd. i want to show you the scene yesterday. mourners gathered for a ceremonial burning of paper and money. this is a way to pay it forward to the disceased. we're so appreciative to have
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you here. thank you for being here. i'm wondering and we're so sorry to all of you because i know that as a fellow police officer, you feel this loss deeply. help us understand what it's like for you and for the force to be at today's services. >> well, as a recently retired detective with the nypd, i just retired in february. i did 29 1/2 years. when it tragedy happened, it was like losing a family member. it just really hurts and it's overwhelming. i read there are 20 officers from los angeles police department there to support you and one of them was quoted as saying we're not here for politics, we're here solely for the liu family and the nypd
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brothers and sisters. what it is like to see them come in for this? >> like i said, the word i can think of is overwhelming. and almost 30 years i've been to numerous police funerals and when i used to go, i would wear my uniform even though i was a detective most of my time in a police department. i wanted the family to see that blue. to see all of the officers that came out to show respects, to see, you know, that the officer did not die in vain. >> and i know we mentioned earlier, we were talking about the police commissioner bill bratton who issued this memo to officers requesting respect at this weekend's service. this, of course, coming from officer ramos' funeral when he was laid to rest. we saw police officers turn their backs on the mayor as he spoke. i'm wondering did you agree with what they felt was obviously their obligation to silently
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voice their anger and frustration with the mayor? >> i agree with them speaking out, but that wasn't the place. there is a time and place for everything. the family invited the mayor to come and speak. and, you know, i have to say that i think new york city police department is the gratest police department in the country. and new york city police officers should be the highest paid. but, you know, like any other department, they're not perfect. and that goes to show the way they acted that day was embarrassing. actually, it seemed like they were trying to bully the mayor, acting like a gang. and that was sworn to protect the citizens from gangs and violence and stuff like that. and it really wasn't a good showing, if you ask me. >> so you assume they will respect the wishes of the
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commissioner today? >> well, i would hope so. >> okay. >> if not the wishes of the commissioner, the family, the family of detectivive ramos invited the mayor and the family of detective liu, they invited the mayor. so out of respect for the family, they should hold off on any type of protest. today is not the day for that. like the commissioner said. >> all right. detective thomas, we appreciate you taking the time to be here for us. thank you so much. >> thank you. back to work for president obama. his hawaiian vacation is over. right now he's headed back to washington. so once he's back in the white house, what is he going to do? what's at the top of his agenda for 2015? we have a live report from the white house. okay, listen up! i'm re-workin' the menu. mayo? corn dogs? you are so outta here!
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those folks will come after him hard and owe points point to studies, you might have talked a good game when you had a what h just the other candidates on the stage or does the governor himself have to be a bit different? >> well, the next cycle is different than 2008 was. there's a deep bench in the republican party gunning for the conservative votes, not only huckabee but rick santorum who won in the last cycle, still a presence there.
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including a 10-year-old girl. we'll take you live to indonesia in just a few minutes. >> you're waking up to sunday morning and we're glad you're spending some of it with us. i'm christi paul. >> aim evictor blackwell. 8:00 on the east coast. >> we begin in new york, friends, family, colleagues, all preparing right now to say good-bye to officer wenjin liu in a couple of hours. >> this morning officer liu is being remembered as a man who loved his heritage and loved his job. >> we want to show you the scene yesterday as mourners gathered for a ceremony burning of paper and money. this is a tradition considered a way to pay it forward for the deceased. >> let's bring in cnn's miguel marquez in new york. miguel, set the scene for us. i know we're still three hours out from the start of the ceremony but are we starting to see the gathering of these officers we expect today, and what can we expect at the

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