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hello, everyone. welcome to the cnn newsroom. you've been watching the somber and poignant ceremony funeral services for nypd officer liu, and you still see a sea of blue. officers from the new york police department. >> liu and his officer were shot and killed while in their patrol car late last month. ramos's funeral taking place last weekend. this weekend paying the respects to wenjun liu.
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dark skies and heavy emotions taking place for the thousands of family friends, and fellow officers of wenjun liu. it was the time to remember the person officer liu was. >> translator: today is the saddest day in my life. my only son left me. in word can express my sadness. when i was sick he took me to see the doctor right away. he called me every day before he finished work to insure me that he is safe and to tell me that i'm coming home today. you can stop worrying now. he is my soul mate my best friend. he took pride in the fact that he is nypd. the caring son, a loving husband. you are an amazing man.
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>> he would go out of his way to make sure we are always happy. he put pride into our family. even though he is gone he will never be forgotten. >> his commitment was as strong as his purpose was pure. i am honored to be here today to pay tribute to a fallen peace maker. >> the buddha offered a lesson. train yourself to attain peace he said. that was how detective liu lived his life. we thank the liu family for sharing him with us. as their guests we mourn with them. we take comfort in the buddha's words that even when death comes, the lessons of goodness do not perish. >> thousands of officers attending the southwests today to pay their respects. cnn miguel marquez joining me
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live now. miguel, the body of wenjian liu on its way to a private ceremony. >> it is. it is an awesome and inspiring sight to see this many police officers gathered together in order to see him off. i can tell you, the body the caskets, and the -- left about a half hour ago, but they remain in formation until it gets all the way down towards the end. during this we heard a series of speeches by the mayor who told us a few things about wenjian liu. that he loved to fish. this is a guy when he had got a big fish he loved to share with his entire family. he was an avid fisherman.
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he was incredibly caring in his swrob. the way he approached life the way he approached his job was one of great caring for individuals. he related a story about an elderly man who had fallen down. wenjian liu who speaks chinese went to his assistants and just sat talking to him for hours. this was a man that wasn't having a physical problem necessarily, but wanted company, and liu was happy to oblige. >> we learned from his cousin most importantly of all, that a man that we know that wenjian liu was known to them. joe. this american family, basically this chinese family that has become america, this is a guy who trained as an accountant but wanted to become a cop. bill bratton saying though he became a cop later in life. he was 32 in 2007 when he was killed. that the pool was just as great for hem later in life as it was for someone like bill bratton who joined the force very early
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on. >> i can see a half mile down and it's starting to break up down that way, and you can just see a massive wall. a tidal wave of blue and now some of the flags are coming back up this way. >> he talked about the officer as joe. as you look at the sea of blue can you kind of paint a picture for us as to how many just civilians, people in the neighborhoods there, who also came out to pay their respects. >> there is a basilica up the street here and i can tell you the people up there from the neighborhood were along the
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barricades several deep. it was tens deep. on the left side of the street i can see different colors. presumably there was a lot of you from the neighborhood here. people from the neighborhood coming up to us. my sense is thousands in the neighborhood. certainly nypd was planning for 25,000 people to show up. they probably had that and more. >> miguel marquez, thank you so much from your vantage point. also in brooklyn gannon that 56th street and -- from your vabtage point, what have you been able to see, sarah? >> hi fred yeah. i've been along the processional line with thousands of police officers who are standing here outside watching the ceremony as it was going on. they've been standing out here for several hours now. they began lining up at 9:00. almost more than a mile away is what we're told by the nypd. that's how long it took and that's how far they had to be
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for the nypd to fit everyone in who wanted to be along the route and pay their final respects to officer wenjian liu. just to give you some perspective, i stepped away from the crowd a bit. they're still standing at attention very quietly. silently actually. standing at attention along the processional route. we didn't want to be disruptive. . i just want to let you know who she said. >> he would always make sure to take time for me his number one fans.
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his family and friends. >> he cared a lot for the chinese community. he wanted to always do his best. she mentioned members of the chinese community that were mentioned there by his wife and i have seen many members of the community here along the sidewalks. along side police officers. they're really mingling and sharing in this grief here together. i saw many officers here from out of town who were ripping off their badges and handing them out to members of the community who were here. mostly just as a shared sign of a memory of being here today. >> he talked about how painful it was for officer liu's family
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to know that he was putting his life at risk every day in this job. every day he would call toem home to his father and let his father know he got home safe. take a listen to what more of mayor bill de blasio had to say. >> detective wenjian liu was a good man. he walked a path of courage ae path of sacrifice, and a path of kindness. this is who he was, and it was taken to us -- he was taken from us much too soon. our hearts go out to his wife who married him during months before his cruel loss. to his father and his mother who
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have suffered the unimaginable pain of losing their only child. >> thanks for reporting in various places of brooklyn. you can hear the bagpipes there as many much the officers remain let's listen in right now to the bagpipes. ♪
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york police officer wenjian
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liu, now detective pos thumously. his body on the way to a private funeral service. you heard from a number of people this morning. poignant moment from his wife. he was a newlywed. married not long before he was explain last month, and then you heard from his dad who also talked about how caring his son wenjian liu was, and then you heard from a young cousin who talked about how he referred to and many referred to wienjan liu as just joe. thousands of nypd police officers -- also this morning, monks performing during a special private chinese ceremony at detective liu's -- they got a glimpse of that tradition during the wake last night with buddhist chance and the ceremonial burning of paper
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money. >> can explain these buddhist traditions and ritual that is took place at the ceremony? >> well yeah. the chinese tradition that detective liu was part of is kind of a sin thesz of various buddhist traditions along with some native chinese traditions that actually predate booedism. the burning of the ceremonial money is actually something that has kind of been incorporated into buddhist ceremonies but isn't traditionally buddhist. the chanting would most likely have been a prayer to ameda buddha who prepared the western heavens for people to go and study the darma in their next life.
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>> there's a belief that the person main tandz a kind of connection to this existence for the first 49 days after their death. that a very unique set of circumstances taking place during today's funeral? >> i'm not familiar with that from other funerals. i think it might be unique to this but i'm not sure. i would like to add to the thought that this is a blended ceremony. you hear the bagpipes. this is the world famous emerald society of new york police
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department and that's another western tradition at police funerals the playing of the bagpipes and it's very moving when you first start hearing the bagpipes. it brings out the emotions of hundreds of earlier furnlz that you have attended of other police officers. >> it was somber. it was poignant. it was moving. it was very personal. d this is a time to pay honor and respect to the fallen police officer, but what did you interpret from what took place
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today? >> most police officers really hoped that the commissioner's request would be honored. commissioner bratton has been a stray cop. he has been there as a fellow officer as opposed to a politician. the fact that many hope that that would happen today, but what it really shows is that some of the emotions within the police department -- the public discourse that's going on run deep. people don't realize how offensive the remarks are that were made by many public officials over the last month and how they're taking by the police officers. >> members of the community, those were not wearing blue are now going to worry or wonder if police officers don't respect authority from their own commissioner then is there a lack of mutual respect even involving the civilian community and the nypd community. >> well, the commissioner's
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request was kind of a mild request. he just reminded them that in his opinion, honor meant not to air grievances at the funerals and, you know he also included in his request that there would be no discipline, and there would be no other reprecussions taken by the department. >> was that a mistake? >> i don't think so. i don't think he was in the position of having to take on hundreds of police officers for a disciplinary action. >> when you see 25,000 police officers respectfully standing for five hours at a fallen fellow officer's funeral, i think that's respect enough as far as the families of the police officers go. >> tom, brad thank you so much. we will be right back with more on the life and death of detective wenjian liu.
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>> welcome back to the newsroom as thousands continue to pay
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their respects to explain nypd detective wenjian liu following this morning's very public tribute. we also topt bring you up-to-date on the other big story that we've been following for you today. the hunt for wreckage and bodies from air asia flight 8501. the search overseas remains on hold for the night due to bad weather there. today crews recovered four bodies from the murky java sea. that brings the total number of victims found so far to 34. one of the bodies recovered today was found off borneo. that suggests currents may be moving bodies and debris. to deal with that authorities are extending the search zone east now. nine of the victims found have been identified including a 10-year-old girl although there has been an improvement in some of the weather conditions there over the past 24 hours, heavy rain and high winds now continue to hamper recovery efforts.
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20 aircraft and 27 ships are now involved in today's search. let's get right to cnn's david malko, who joins from yous the city where the plane took off a week ago. what more can you tell us about today's search efforts and really talking about sunday's search efforts? you are nearly a day ahead of us east coast time. >> we've been talking about the weather all week. it's monsoon season. you get afternoon thunderstorms. things can change out there rather quick. >> they were hoping to get a look at the four parts we were telling you about. the largest one. about 60 feet. that's approximately the same as the length of an airbus a320 wing. what they're going to do monday is try it all over again hoping
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for better visibility. hoping for improved conditions. aking process. so david, now, how are the family members holding up with news that weather is certainly hampering things and then there are reports that there may have been some icing on the plane, and that, too, is something that's being further investigated. what kind of response are you hearing? >> the indonesian weather agency said based on the conditions at the time and the type of clouds that were in the sky, there could have been you know a
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chance for ice to form. what they also said in the report though is this is one idea one thought they're putting out there by no means was this a conclusion or anything even saying to the point that weather was a cause of this crash. we just don't know it. important at this point, though that every piece of information that's out there is valuable to investigators. let's look at the families now. you ask how they're doing. honestly fred from talking to them they're frustrated. just with how long this search seamed seems to take. for how long it is to recover those human remains, bring them here and identify them. one of the things that happened in the last 24 hours is air asia came out and said you know we're going to offer you some compensation. this is pretty typical for an airline crash. this is not the insurance pay-out that will come later, but instead, something to cover financial hardship.
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about 24,000 per passenger on board. some of the families though a little confused by this. saying well if i accept this then i'm accepting that my loved ones are lost. air asia says no that's not it at all. from some of the family members, including one who has lost four including two young grand daughters, they can't separate the two. they're saying let's hold off. the mayor here is stepping up. >> when we come back we're going to talk more about these icing possibilities and the direction of the search now.
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welcome back to the newsroom. the latest now on the hunt for the wreckage and victims of air asia flight 8501. searchers today have recovered four bodies from the murky waters of the java sea. that brings the total number of victims found so far to 34. one of the bodies recovered today was found off the coast of borneo. that suggests currents may be moving bodies and debris. to deal with that authorities are extending the search zone eastward. nine of the victims found have been identified including a little 10-year-old girl. joining me now is mary cnn aviation analyst and former inspector general with the department of transportation and david, cnn safety analyst and author of the books, why planes crash, and malaysia airlines flight 370. all right, david. to you first, indonesian officials reportedly are speculating now that icing may have contributed to the downing of this plane, but officials are telling cnn that that's not credible so how do you square
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that kind of information? >> well at this point what we're looking at is contributors and contributors are something that come down the road in the investigation a little bit. to talk about icing at this point is a little bit speculative, but it isn't isn't uncommon to incur icing, either as hail or the kind of icing that sticks to the aircraft as it enters and goes through wet areas, but at this point it's too early to tell but it's certainly a possibility that it contributed. >> so mary if that is a possibility, would there be a certain altitude that would have to be entertained with that idea of icing? >> yes. david is absolutely right. it depends on the kind of icing. icing that forms on the plane and the surface on the plane. the plane would be able to take that. you know there's de-icing systems on it. what would happen at certain altitudes and as the thunderstorm was building there's a particular cloud
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formation and an anvil cloud, and off the end of that cloud it's very bad. can be very bad hail. if the icing was in the form of the hail ingested in the engine then what you would see as an engine failure, dual engine flame-out, and that can be very very difficult to restart. you would have to do a dive and a windmilling restart. that would be hard to do. the altitude would probably be the fact if the thunderstorm was that high it would be at the top of the thunderstorm build-out. >> and then david, now that we hear that there have been more bodies recovered, one was recovered in the area where it appears it drifted far from the primary search area. i suppose this is to be expected. you know this is a moving sea, and this is, of course, during a very tumultuous time of monsoon, bad weather. how much more difficult is this going to make this for searchers that they have to deal with currents in a very big way now, and that the scope of their
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search area has to be expanded? >> it's going to very much complicate the recovery of the bodies because the bodies are typically surface-born so, they're moving across the top of the surface due to wind and current. ror. >> so mary what does this mean for the resources dedicated to this search? does it mean allocating certain types of apparatus to a more confined search area while other, i guess, resources are devoted somewhere else to travel with the current?
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they need to enlist locals people need to start watching the areas because at this point that's where some of the wreckage might reach up, and there was another crash in the java sea a while back. it was several weeks, and then things washed up on the shore there too. irl after she survived a plane crash in kentucky. that crash killed her entire family. ♪ [carpenters: "rainy days and mondays"] ♪ [ac/dc: "back in black"] 12k3w4r50i6r7gs ug
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did to survive this deadly plane crash. the twin engine aircraft went down in a dense forest on friday. the young survivor sailor lost her mom, dad, stfr, and cousin all on that plane. let's get now to cnn's nick valencia with more on this. there was a press conference. we are finally seeing some images of the plane crash site and this little girl is remarkable. >> and during that press conference we find out just how remarkable she was just exactly what she had to go through. as we talked about all day yesterday, this plane, this small twin engine plane was on its way from florida to illinois when it had an emergency midair. we believe it was engine problems that eventually brought this plane down. the faa still investigating. brent white, with the kentucky police department or statute police you should say, talked about how it was so cold 38 degrees, rough terrain.
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ility for her to give us information, you know? she was obviously distraught but probably in shock. after trying to raise her family and get to communicate with her, and i think even touching some of them she indicated she believed that her family was deceased but that she hoped that they were just sleeping. >> remarkable for her to even have the wherewithal to see that. they said she was in the woods, fred, for quite some time before she was able to get over a ridge line. she saw that light on. the 71-year-old that helped her out, and just walked. she couldn't have chosen a better direction. if she had gone the other way,
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she would have ended nup lake. she would have gone over ditches, a 12-foot creek. >> she was bare foot and wearing shorts. >> one sock bare foot, shorts, and a t dressed for florida. 38 degrees in western rural kentucky. thankfully she found somebody who could help her out. we should mention, she was released from the hospital, and it was her step sister who ended up picking her up. she's now with her step sister. >> oh my goodness. what if anything are other family members saying about her? >> earlier we saw just a little while ago a report from nbc that a mother of that cousin 14-year-old, who was on the plane gave some comments. we were trying to get in touch with her. the family right now is being very quiet. they did release a statement earlier. an attorney released a statement asking for those who wanted to donate to her recovery. there is that out there. right now this braveless girl being heralded as the bravest person that many of those people that came across her path have ever met. >> she is amazing. we wish her the best. especially in some
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circumstances. the rest of her family who continue to try to hold it together. all right. nick appreciate that. thank you. >> all right. those searching for victims and wreckage from air asia flight 8501 are making some progress. we'll tell you how. plus how the weather is still impacting that search. storms are they letting up or will they let up any time soon? the forecast straight ahead. alright, so this tylenol arthritis lasts 8 hours but aleve can last 12 hours. and aleve is proven to work better on pain than tylenol arthritis. so why am i still thinking about this? how are ya? good. aleve. proven better on pain. i've smoked a lot and quit a lot but ended up nowhere. now...i use this. the nicoderm cq patch with unique extended release technology helps prevent the urge to smoke all day. i want this time to be my last time. that's why i choose nicoderm cq.
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>> all right. overseas the weather was supposed to be a lot more favorable for searchers looking for that air asia flight on sunday. it was to a degree. remember they are 12 hours ahead. we're into the next day monday for folks there and the searchers. let's bring in our cnn meteorologist karen mcginnis from the cnn weather center. t the 15 to 18 foot wave heights.
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the water is still churning up. the visibility is so poor as you heard earlier. >> is it enough for the vessels on the ocean and in the air to have a problem with it? well a lot of these can be very heavy precipitation makers it is monsoon season. going into sues every tuesday here's a shower here later in the day it starts to clear out and going into wednesday it looks a lot better. we may not see the wave heights or the wind. that's the way it appears now. fred. >> all right. a little bitten couraging. all right. thanks so much karen. appreciate that. >> for the 59 diving teams finding the flight data recorders is a priority and it's because the batteries have about just 22 days of power
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left. investigators need the black boxes to get a much more clear picture of why air asia flight 8501 went down. joining me right now is former ntsb medical officer mitch garber. the senior managing consultant for esi. good to see you. thanks for coming in. 22 days or so with the battery life but it could be longer. maybe on average it's 30 days. maybe more. >> fredericka obviously that's a variable and it can be longer or even shorter than that depending on the kndz and the specific batteries. i think in this case though the investigators seem to be fairly clear that they found what they believe to be a majority of the wreckage. >> so you feel fairly kflt if they've isolated what they think to be the area of where most of the wreckage can be you feel
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fairly competent that these with as long as they have been. >>. >> they are 3,400 g's. temperatures that would be unimaginable for sur vifl of individuals, and certainly a submergion under water. the air france 447 recorders were found years later and would still contain usable data. i would expect that these flight data recorders and cockpit voice recorder would be found and would be in good condition when they are found. >> technology and expertise is such that a lot can be learned from just the visual examination of the wreckage of even the bodies to try and get a better idea of what happened to this plane, but there's nothing that can match the information on these data recorders. what kind of information can be extrapolated from it? >> well a lot of times what we're looking for, we find the wreckage, and even examining the
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bodies as you say, we are finding out what has happened? what do we know about this crash? what we're not finding out so much is why did that happen? what was going on in the cockpit? what were the pilots thinking about? what kinds of things were they having to deal with at that time? what information did they have in order to deal with whatever was coming? >> even if something so sudden just on a dime something changed, and the pilots were powerless or they weren't even able to communicate something, those data recorders will be able to dictate some of that information? >> we should be able to see some of that information. >> they'll go on even though there may be power to the aircraft. it may be cut off to the voice recorder. some information may still be attainable, even in the absence of power to the aircraft. >> all right. mitch, thank you so much for
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north korea fires back at new strict sanctions by the united states and retaliation for the cyber attack on sony. the communist nation calling the sanctions "repug nant and hostile. ho had just been chair of the foreign relations committee says that the sanction says don't go far enough. now, he has also reached out to
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secretary of state john kerry and has asked whether they will add north korea to the list of state sponsors of terror, and he says that he hasn't gotten a response yet, fred. what's topping his domestic agenda as a new congress is sworn in this week? >> there are three big things that he thinks he can work closely with republicans on. ast, and that's why he is eager to work with congress to get those done. >> now, president obama is also hitting the road this week. he is going to michigan
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arizona, and tennessee to sell that braend jaebd. now, meanwhile, republican senator mitch mcconnell who will be coming in as the majority leader sat down with cnn's dana bash and he talked about how the president can work with republicans. listen to this. >> he needs to talk to us and that's good. when people elect a government they're not saying they don't want anything done. what they are saying is they want things done in the political center things that both sides can agree on and in the conversation. last week we talked about the things where there may be some agreement. >> but the very first thing out of the gate is the keystone xl pipeline and republicans say they have the 60 votes to pass that. then the question becomes will the president veto that? then if he does can republicans get together with some democrats and have 67 votes to override that veto? that's still an open question.
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>> hello again. i'm fredericka whitfield. we begin with the hunt for wreckage and the 162 passengers and crew of air asia 8501.
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the search remains on hold for now. earlier today searchers recovered four bodies from the murky waters of the java sea. that brings the total number of victims found so far to 34. cnn's david joins us where the plane took off a week ago. fridayed shlgts a tiny break, but not the break they were hoping for. divers were sent into the water to try to get a closer look at those four objects. the search teams had found. one of them was about the same length as a wing of an a320. they're thinking it could potentially be the wreckage. once they got in the water zero visibility. it was like hunting for something in the dark. >> good news fred is t