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with indonesia's navy chief revising the search area eastward choppy seas proving difficult for the divers. we are covering all angles of the story. let's go straight to anna coren live on the ground in indonesia. good morning, na. >> reporter: hello, john. search and recovery teams working against the clock to find the bodies of those on board the ill-fated airasia flight that crashed nine days ago. those bodies decomposing in the warm waters of the java sea. the search has been postponed for the day due to bad weather. it is feared it could take weeks if not longer to find the bodies. the wreckage and vital black box flight recorders. authorities ramping up the search for airasia flight 8501 with crews scouring the java sea in the air and by water. by the afternoon, at least three bodies two male and one female
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pulled from the water and taken to land. severe weather breaking long enough for officials to deploy a total of 57 divers to investigate objects detected by sonar. the u.s. ship is using sonar equipment to scan the ocean floor. meanwhile, authorities expand the operation beyond the most probable area where crews have retrieved dozens of bodies and located large pieces of debris believed to be from the aircraft. >> the position of where they find the debris is extremely important because the fact you can determine whether there is an in-flight break up or break up of the extent of the break up once it hit the water. >> reporter: now nine days since the airbus-320 has went missing. >> the voice recorder and cockpit tells you what the people are saying. you may hear a bang.
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you have the data recorder that is telling you what kind of thrust settleings the engines were on. you can tell what is happening with the plane. >> reporter: officials revealing that airasia did not have a permit to fly the surabaya to singapore route. it was cleared to fly the route four days a week which did not include sunday. now we just learned from officials they did spot another object in the java sea. it is yet to be identified. hopefully get clarification tomorrow when the search resumes. a full investigation is underway. flights between surabaya and singapore have been suspended. flight 8501 is cooperating. >> thank you, anna coren. let's bring in mary schiavo and
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we have david gallo at the woods hall institute. he was a leader of the search for air france flight 447. great to see both of you. mary let's start with the most pressing question. of what caused this crash. what is the latest thinking? >> the latest thinking out of indonesia and it is just one of several theories. they believe it is icing within the engine. they call it chunks of ice forming within the engines and perhaps breaking free and injuring the blades and causing loss of the engine. i think icing is prevalent, but icing on the clouds and on the plane. the plane is capable of doing. more than likely it would probably be hail and really the products of the storm. that is the latest thinking. ice in the engines, on the plane
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or ingested as hail. >> david, that is a trouble theory. it is winter in the united states. thousands of planes fly every day. how can we not be dealing with the same level of icing that brought down that plane? >> well, many as you said thousands of planes flying every day and routinely very safe. it is the one unique weather conditions that this plane finds itself in. that is the theory that brought about the situation. >> what makes that one unique as opposed to flying through icy cold conditions here every day? >> i believe it was a rapid climb they had and rapid descent. i think it was those conditions. it is not just one condition, but a bunch of them that set up the disaster. >> mary you are nodding. >> i think that is right. what is probably happening here and my take on the climb it was climbing so rapidly, i don't
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believe it was the plane itself. the plane's maximum climb rate is 3,500 feet per minute. a pilot would never do that to the plane because you risk a dual engine flameout. you risk losing your engines. i think the weather was so violent and strong it was forcing the plane up and slamming it down. if it got near the top of the anvil cloud formation, there is a lot of hail and bad stuff. >> a harrowing scenario to hear about. obviously, david, it would help investigators tremendously if they could find the black boxes. why do you think they are not hearing the pinging? >> this could be a lot of reasons. they could be in the wrong spot. i heard there is something 30 ships searching for various things including the black boxes. knowing where they aren't is information, too. you have to be sure they are not where you are. in some cases, the battery pack
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could be separated from the pingers. they have to be sure before they leave a spot. they may not be working. they may be in a situation where they cannot be heard. a horrible side of the equation to be on. especially for the families that are now emotionally exhausted. >> absolutely. mary if they find the black boxes, do they generally find the fuselage? are they often in the same place? >> it depends on the break-up sequence. they are located near the tail, but not right in the tail. near the back of the fuselage area. if the plane happened to break there, it is possible they would have been flown free. they will not be moving around with the currents. they will remain at the bottom of the ocean. look for them near the fuselage. i don't think it is at broke-up altitude. i think it hit the water and broke up.
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>> david, do we need to find the black boxes to know what happened to the plane? >> i think it is a huge part of what we need to know. we can learn a lot from the plane. especially today with the equipment. we can go to the bottom and do a forensic forensic study. i think the black boxes are critical. they are there. it is a matter of time and systematic searching. >> sadly, the search suspended today for weather. mary and david, thank you for all of the information. thanks. a story of a miracle in the midst of a tragedy. federal investigators hope to speak to the 7-year-old girl who survived a plane crash that killed her parents, her sister and cousin. sailor gutzler walked a mile in the freezing woods to find help after the family's plane went down friday night. sailor's account of the crash
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could help determine what caused it. nick valencia has the latest. >> reporter: good morning, john. sailor gutzler could not have found a better way to get out of the woods. instead, kentucky state police detailing her journey to get help. 7-year-old sailor gutzler is the only survivor of the plane crash that killed her family. her mom, dad, sister and cousin dead. after their small twin engine traveling from florida crashed in the woods in kentucky. her journey to find help begins after trying to stir her family. >> her family was unresponsive. she realized her non injured arm to free herself from the aircraft. >> reporter: in the pitch black, sailor treks a mile through grizzly terrain. navigating ditches and briar
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patches and a creek bed wearing shorts and no coat in the freezing cold before stumbling on to a home. >> we were talking about that being divine intervention. she absolutely went to probably the nearest house that she could have. >> reporter: the home belongs to larry wilkens. he hears a knock at door and find sailor. scraped and bloody and upset. telling him she just been in a plane crash and asking for help. >> opened the door. this girl, 7 years old, bloody nose arms scratched up. legs eat up. she told me her mom and dad were dead. >> reporter: family and friends grieving the loss while grateful for the one life spared. >> angry that something like this would happen. it is just unbelievable. >> reporter: just incredible.
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faa and ntsb still investigating the cause of the crash. as for sailor gutzler, she was treated for minor injuries and released from the hospital. john. >> we will speak with larry, the kentucky man who opened the door for the girl at his house after she walked through the woods surviving the crash. >> interesting to toalk to him. let's get to meteorologist chad myers for the latest on the winter chill. >> i wish it wasn't so. it is cold out there. cold in chicago. it feels like 18 degrees below zero. international falls, minneapolis, i cannot tell that apart. 26 below zero and 46 below zero right now. that is what the weather is like all day. it will not warm up above zero. the wind out of the north from the north pole. santa is sending us some of his wind. this wind down to new york. that is the deep dive. the deep freeze we are in for
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the next few days. next week it warms back up. a ridge in the west which means it will be warm. the trough in the east will be cold. that is where we are waking up this morning. most of us. good night to you, hawaii. other than that chicago, the high on wednesday will be zero. new york city the high will be 24. the morning lows will approach zero and feel colder than that with the windchill in the city. >> i will be wearing a big furry hat in the studio. chad, thanks. more news to tell you about. let's look at headlines. >> good morning. happy new year. good to see you. let's look at the headlines. breaking overnight, a car bombing in kabul targeting a convoy of foreign vehicles. a vehicle packed with explosives detonated near the convoy. six civilians injured in the blast. lawmakers descending on washington ahead of the congress set to convene tomorrow.
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republicans control the house and senate for the first time in a decade. mitch mcconnell and president obama said they will work together. conservative texas congress member louis gohmert is challenging john boehner for the house speaker. and the images of the suspect that shot an albuquerque police officer twice on saturday morning. these images were captured by the body camera of the officer. a 31-year veteran of the force is expected to recover. the suspect is still on the loose. sports fans friends and colleagues and president all paying tribute to the great stuart scott. espn anchor died on sunday. stuart was just 49 years old. his partner rich eisen gave this emotional farewell. >> a groundbreaking broadcaster
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in the world of sports television. i love this man. i still love this man. and the fact he has passed away is absolutely mind boggling and a travesty. i love you, stuart wherever you are, god speed. rest in peace. >> we love him, too. moments of silence were held at sporting heevents around the nation. vice president joe biden will be at the wake today for the former governor mario cuomo. he is the father of our friend and anchor chris cuomo. he died of heart failure on new year's day. he was 82 years old. our thoughts and prayers continue to be with the cuomo family. we were talking about the fact the wake is today and a crowd of mourners gathering to pay
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respects. a wonderful sendoff. >> we will be looking forward to see chris later today. i hope they are holding up okay. >> chris comes back wednesday. we extend our condolences to him and the family. they have been together for the weekend. back to the news. nypd officers turning their backs again on the mayor. although the police commissioner asked them not to. the officers feel betrayed. can anything heal this rift? the bombing suspect trial finally gets under way. the strategy his lawyers are using to try to save him from the death penalty.
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i cannot understand evil. i will not try. >> well said. fbi director speaking at the funeral of wenjian liu. liu assassinated last month in the act of violence that brought the relationship with the new york police department and city hall. many officers once again turned their backs on mayor bill de blasio during . the officers contend the mayor has not supported them and it led to the detective's murder. have they gone too far now? these police officers to turn their back to make a point? joining us at new york 1 news and former nypd officer and
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secret service agent, thank you so much for being with us. the police commissioner asked these cops not to do it. the pair bill deblasio met with union officials to try to ease the tensions last week. nevertheless once again, here we are at a funeral, officers turn their back on the mayor. were you surprised? >> no i wasn't. if part i don't think we will see too many more acts of mass disrespect or disobedience whatever you want to call it. there aren't that many occasions where thousands of cops get together like this. so i think it was an opportunity they didn't want to pass up. few want to register displeasure with the mayor, this is the time you will be able to do it with all the cameras rolling. will it happen again? when is the next time it happens like that? it doesn't do that unless it causes a rally. this is an expression of knows underlying differences. >> the reason it was together is it was a funeral for their
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fellow officers and, dan, that's the issue here. was this an appropriate place, let me read you the note that commissioner bill bratton said to the officer, he said i issue no mandates and i make no threats of discipline but i remind you that when you don the uniform of this dep, you are bound by the tradition, honor that go with it. when they turn their back at a funeral, did they dishonor that funeral, did they in a way dison nor the funeral? >> i think this is one of their limited opportunities to speak out t. mayor has the pulpit and used the pulpit. in my opinion and the opinion of many police officers the disinjen yust with usually narrative on my part to say caused the assassination of these police officers created a toxic viermth which a lot of the officers believe contributed to it. this is their opportunity to use that microphone to speak out.
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>> the mayor met with officials. it didn't go well, dan what does the mayor need to do now to perhaps placate some of these officers? >> well i still speak to a lot of my former colleagues nypd. i went through the academy almost two decades ago. some of those folks are on the job. i think at this point the only way forward is some form of a public apology. i don't see any other path. there was a line crossed they feel. >> that line is the smearing of the entire department giving the illusion to racism in the garner event. not race racism. that was a line that they feel was completely inappropriate to be crossed. >> so you think a public apology is what's needed and appropriate you say to move beyond this situation right now. let me play a bit of what the mayor said yesterday publicly during his speech. he made rough illusions i think
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to coming toke as a community. let's listen. >> let us rededicate ourselves to those great new york traditions of mutual understanding and living in harmony. let is move forward by strengthening the bonds that unite us and let us work together to attain peace. >> with harmony, he wants new bond. you heard dan say it. i talked to the officer, too, he says the only way you will get harmony is if the mayor apologizes you know this mayor. there will not be a public apology? >> i have known bill deblasio for 25 years. he's not going to apologize, something the police have to understand is that this issue, they may not like the way the mayor said what he said. they may not like what he said.
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but this was a central issue. it's a central issue in the race for mayor. exactly. the people of new york who voted or chose to stay home or whatever they did ratified in this also went to the court system. reform is necessary. i understand the cops may not like this process, this election process, the city council process, but reform is coming. they can kick and scream and demonize the mayor all they want. something is going to happen. >> dang you had a lot of jobs as someone who wants to get into politics what is your message as a perspective leader to these officers on the streets in new york city. what would you like to see them do to move this forward? >> well he said a couple tension there, one the public is not on the mayor's side anymore. he may have earned a low
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election. he won by a landslide. he's not winning now. public opinion is against the mayor. the public polling is the public feel the majority he handled this terribly how do you move forward right now you mentioned the word "demonize." you don't demonize the entire police department for one terrible tragic incident. you focus on actual reforms, whether it be stop and frisk or use or force. you don't make unfounded allegations of racism when there is no evidence at all that that existed in this case. that's no way to move forward. >> all right. dan, not sure we have any ground for consensus here. it doesn't look like the mayor or police are moving forward to any kind of peaceful accord. >> not just yet. >> do you support the police that turn their backs or do you think it was disrespectful? what do you think the keys are to moving this process forward? tweet us at newday or go to facebook.com/newday. we will share your comments
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jury selection in the murder trial of bombing suspect dzhokhar tsarnaev he faces death for the terrorist attack that killed three and injured nearly 300 others. you are getting an idea of the defense strategy to save his life this morning. the defence will argue he was controlled by his older brother tamerlan and his upbringing and family history contributed to his role in the attack. we are in boston where injury selection is set to begin. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, john. prosecutors say dzhokhar tsarnaev put the backpack on the ground walked away and debt fated the device him today from 1,200 prospective jurors making their way to the courthouse it will be several days as they fill out questionnaires and decide whether they are chosen to serve that jury. right near the marathon finish line on a holiday monday in boston two explosions 12
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seconds apart. >> it was a scene of utter devastation and carnage down there. >> reporter: the home-made bombs kill three people. shrapnel tears through more than 200 spectators. >> we were collecting pieces of shrapnel inside the bombs, pieces of the backpacks. >> reporter: day three, a break in the case. of the more than 12,000 images and under surveillance from businesses and spectators, a man in a white ball cap at the second blast site. >> he places that backpack down oak sliding it off his shoulder and stands and mills around. a short time later, maybe 15 minutes later, he makes a phone call shortly thereafter you hear the first bomb go off. >> reporter: day four the fbi asks the public for help finding two men, later identified as tamerlan and dzhokhar tsarnaev. now on the run. officials say the brothers
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execute m.i.t. police officer sean collier carjack an suv and get into a shootout with police. watertown police chief says 26-year-old tamerlan is shot. he manages to reload about four times. >> he runs out of ammunition and throws his gun at my sergeant. he starts to run. >> officers tackled tamerlan. his brother tries to scatter police to free him. >> he tracks his brother down. he's london underneath the stolen suv. he smashes into one of our cruisers. >> by sunrise friday millions in the boston area are on lockdown. when it is lifted that night, a resident calls 911. the suspect is hideing in his boat. >> he's got a sniper's rifle pointed right at his head. he was a threat. >> we didn't know if he had bombs on him. >> reporter: after a tense standoff he surrenders. at the hospital. he is investigated by fbi
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interrogators then read his rights. and he is expected to be in court today. he is entitled to be in court every day of his trial to sit and face the people filling out those questionnaires. the defense team had tried to move this trial to another city. they had also asked for more time to prepare. the judge said no in both cases. >> thanks so much for all that background. let's dig deeper with our justice reporter commentator and liam analyst. evan i want to start with you. i understand you have breaking news to report. >> that's right, allison him we heard from sources that the government and the defense team had had these talks for a guilty plea by dzhokhar tsarnaev under which he would plead guilty in exchange for life without parole. now, the reason why this did not work out and why the trial is expected to start in the next few hours is because the government refused to remove the possibility of the death penalty, which has been ordered as a possibility here for this case.
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>> if he had copped a plea deal and if he could spare, i mean if the trial could spare boston the emotion of going through a trial like this why wouldn't the government take the death penalty off the table? >> well the government says once the attorney general has made the determination that this is a capital case that something new has to come up. there is various things that they for example, his mental health perhaps if he had offered some kind of assistance to the government that leads to new information in the case. >> that is not the case. they believe they know everything that happened here. >> mel robbins, i want to bring you in. this case could not be any more emotional for the city of boston. here are two young men who allegedly massacred and maimed people at the boston marathon. do you think that this trial should have been moved out of the city? >> reporter: absolutely not. he will absolutely get a fair trial. they only need 18 jurors
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allison, 12 main six alternate. there are millions a part of this potential jury pool. keep in mind he is going to be found guilty allison. it's not a question of whether or not he's found guilty. the only question that remains is in the sentencing phase of the trial, will a jury of his peers sentence him to the death penalty, allison? there are plenty of people in the state of massachusetts that are against the death penalty. we haven't put anybody to death in 67 years. it's been outlawed for over 30 years. so while this is a federal case i think it is far from cut and dry, whether or not he will actually receive the death penalty when he's convicted and mark my words, he will be convicted. >> so, in other words the jury mel, is able to say, we believe he deserves life in prison but we will not give him the death penalty. >> absolutely. i mean what you will see here is the prosecution is going to put on an ensurmountable case. that i have an avalanche of
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evidence against dzhokhar tsarnaev. he will be found guilty. he will probably be found guilty on all 30 counts alisyn. then the trial moves to a sentencing phase the same jury will hear extremely detailed evidence that the defense will put forward attempting to mitigate the circumstances. they're going to talk about how he was influenced by his older brother, that he had no criminal record his family history, being an honor roll student in high school. you know at some point, maybe the defendant will express tremendous remorse and all of these things a jury will take into consideration when they decide whether or not they are going to sentence him to death and in a third, just a third of federal cases,al sen, has jurys actually sentenced folks to the death penalty. two-thirds of all federal cases, jurys have chosen for life without the option for parole. i think they'll do the same in
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this case. >> do we know how dzhokhar tsarnaev has been behaving behind bars whether he has been cooperative at all? >> the government says he has not shown remorse. >> that is one of the issues that will come up here. even though massachusetts doesn't have the death penalty, juries in massachusetts, federal jurys have handed down the death sentence before if recent years. so it is something, it is a bit of a tossup as to whether they will go this way. everybody remembers what happened on that day in the marathon bombings. >> mel, let me remind the viewers of what was found in the boat where dzhokhar tsarnaev was hiding during the man hunt for he and his brother when police found him and flushed him in the boat. they found behind written in his blood, we muslims are one body. you hurt one, you hurt us all. stop killing innocent people and we will stop. i can't stand to see such evil
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go unpunished? how will his attorneys depict him as the sort of innocent brother under the fray of his older brother, given what evan reported that he hasn't been cooperative and they have this evidence. >> reporter: well, just because he hasn't been cooperative doesn't mean he wouldn't show remorse during a plea number one, number two, that's evidence of his motive which was revenge. but that doesn't discount what the defense will argue. again, this does not go to whether or not he is guilty of these crimes argueing he was kind of persuaded, overtaken, brain washed by his older brother, who is the mastermind of this doesn't get him acquitted. it may save him from being executed. that remains to be seen alisyn. >> got it. thanks so much for this. gra it to see you both. john. all right. coming up for us finding the wreckage of airasia flight 8501. this morning, there has been a new setback.
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a familiar and frustrating development as the search for flight 8501 is suspended for the day because of rough weather. there has been a new setback, however, one of the suspected plane parts that officials found is actually from a ship year's old ship wreck, not collected to the jet. when the search resumes, it will move eastward as the area the search area is revised again. cnn's paula hancocks is one of the few reporters that traveled to the search zone in the choppy waters of the java sea, paula joins us now, paula tells us what it was like him paula. >> reporter: we have been hearing about the adverse weather conditions. officials say it's the biggest
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obstacle at this point. on sunday we traveled to the search zone. we can show you first hand what it was like. the deserted beaches of west bornia end nieceia, belie the horrors out at sea. more than 100 nautical miles to the search zone calm waters and sunshine soon disappeared. we have been on the sea now for about four hours. we got about three or four hours to go. as you can see, the weather has started to close in the closer we get to this crash location. but we are being told that even though these waves are fairly high. can you see it's a lot choppier than it was, this is considered good weather. this is better than it has been for some days. the crew looks for debris and bodies. one of them spots something. he's unsure what, exactly. the captain calls it in. a larger ship in the area will
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investigate. this search and rescue boat has a spec mission, to deliver a pinger locateer to help with the vital search for the so-called black boxes. but the captain is nervous about the weather. "i feel a heavy burden," he says." i have a responsibility to keep those on board safe but it's so important to help find bodies and debris." larger ships compose these conditions he says "this is not a large ship." at the search zone the contact boat is in sight. time to hand over the equipment. easier said tan done. one of the men who is in charge of that equipment was going to jump across quite frankly, he doesn't want to. he says it's simply too dangerous. next job, transferring the boat from which to operate the equipment. a task the crew struggles with
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until dark. they have to admit defeat at least for today. an exhausted crew returns to land with only half the mission accomplished. it is a huge international effort. the u.s. has two ships in place, france russia ma lacia sing a more to name a few that are helping. but unless the weather improves there is really a little to what they can do. al sen, john back to you. >> thanks. so many challenges for them to deal with. thanks so much. well the royals responding forcefully to allegations against prince andrew that he sexually assaulted a middle eastern t. allegations are sordid with other big names involved. we'll have more. gy helps prevent the urge to smoke all day. i want this time to be my last time. . t. allegations are sordid with other big names involved. we'll have more. t. allegations are sordid with other big names involved. we'll have more. t t. allegations are sordid with other big names involved. we'll have more. h t. allegations are sordid with other big names involved. we'll have more. e t. allegations are sordid with other big names involved. we'll have more. t. allegations are sordid with other big names involved. we'll have more. . allegations are sordid with other big names involved. we'll have more. allegations are sordid with other big names involved. we'll have more.
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abuse allegations against prince andrew a. woman identified as virginia roberts filing a lawsuit in the u.s. claiming a wealthy investor forced her into sex slavery when she was a minor, making him available for friends, one of the men she claims to have encounters with is prince andrew. matt foster is following the allegations and denials. >> reporter: buckingham palace on rapid control. allegations that prince andrew had sex with an under aged girl several times in 1999 and 2002. the royal family issuing a rare second statement, refuteing the claims even naming the alleged victim saying it's emphatically denied that his rile highness the duke of york had any form of sexual contact or relationship with virginia roberts. the allegations made are false and without any foundation. roberts referred to as jane
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dough 3 in court papers last week alleges she was kept as a sex lave for three years by the prince's former friend billionaire businessman and registered sex offender jeffrey ep stein, during this time roberts claims she was forced to have sexual relations with the prince when she was a minor. according to court filing ep stein told him to give the prince whatever he needed and required. >> she has to prove it was prince andrew what we have is going to be very damaging evidence very damaging discussion and the palace are frantically trying to find a way of limiting this. >> reporter: the prince came under harsh criticism for his friendship of ep stein in 2011 eventually leading to his resignation as ambassador for british business. >> it was very bad judgment to befriend him in the first place. >> reporter: according to court documents, they say he routinely
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leant here to powerful people for sex. dershowitz said in a statement the entire story is made up. the claims are all about money. he is lodging an effort to disbar the lawyers who filed the case. in a statement reacting to the denials from dershowitz prince andrew and ep stein, roberts insists she'll pursue all recourse. saying these times of aggressive attacks are the reason sexual abuse victims typically remain silent and she will not be bullied back into silence. well it's very rare for buckingham palace to comment on any ongoing illegal proceedings. for now, today, we've had an unprecedented fourth statement in relation to this case. a suggestion that roberts went as far as meeting the queen. the palace said there is nothing to suggest this is true. we have no record of a meeting with the queen, mikaela. >> max foster thank you so much for that.
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we will turn to commentator expert and all things royal, good to see you. happy new year. this is the first thing we're kicking awful the new year to thank you about the royals it's quite unsavory. >> very unsavory. you are right, given this is a year they stand to break queen victoria's record we have a new baby on the way. this is not how the royal family would want to start 2015. >> what do you make of what max says in the fourth statement from the palace very strongly worded? this is unprecedented? >> it is unprecedented. also given the fact that it's a legal proceeding in another country makes it more unprecedentled. here's the deal these are proceedings filed in a court in the usa. prince andrew is not party to this case as such he's not able to issue a formal response and so it became absolutely imperative that buckingham palace release this so it's on the record. >> on the record multiple times,
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too, i find that really interesting. >> multiple times, allegations leak this are incredibly sordid and when you are painted with this brush, it is very hard to shake this type of accusation. the royal family seems to get back on track with a focus on andrew's charity endeavors, his working the tech following sector. he is due at the world economic forum in switzerland later this month. io eng this story is going to go away any time soon. the family is going to fight it. >> they're going toified it. it's not as though it won't derail other plans, he has already cut short his skiing vacation i am assuming to deal with the meetings with the queen and probably go into crisis control mode. no? >> absolutely. the monarchy at the end of the day is a business. it has switched into overdrive. he flew home yesterday along with his daughter. he is meeting with legal advisers. he will be meeting with the queen. i would imagine very soon just to insure here. >> i would love to be a fly on
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the wall. let me read to you the sec statement, apparently there are four now t. second statement reads in part a serious allegation of sex with the middle eastern was leveled at the duke to the u.s. court is emphatically don'ted that the duke of york had any form of sexual contact or relationship. they have now named this woman, virginia roberts. any claim to the contrary is false and without foundation him i keep going back to that the notion when you are tarred with an allegation like this it's very difficult to essential i untar yourself. i mean this is potentially incredibly damaging. >> it is incredibly damaging. not only to the prince when you look at the negative cloud over buckingham palace when you look at his charitable endeavors, moving ahead, it will be trying to reign eng in. at the same time when you are prince andrew certainly over the week he was tried in the court of public opinion on social media. >> is there a sense, do you think, in the united kingdom that there is any truth to any of this?
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does he have the reputation of being lewd and lascivious? >> certainly, there is no one to speculate at this point. but andrew has a record of having a bad choice of friends, which his only crime is his poor judgment in his friends, maintaining a witness to ep stein. he had a string of girlfriends in the past. some suitable. some not so such. nicknamed randy andy prince andrew has made a number of grasps in the past. certainly nothing of this level and really this damaging. >> does he have any chance can he sue for libel? is there any -- >> royals don't sue. really it only prolongs the story. it's only to get worse. there is talk one of the woman is talking about releasing a memoir. it has not been written. if it is we seen the paper go to town already with the nature of the details. it doesn't look like it will be a particularly good year for andrew.
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>> certainly not the way they want it to start out. victoria thank you so much. in our next hour we will speak live with one of the men named in that lawsuit. harvard law attorney alan dish wit. he vehemently denies the accusation leveled against him. we are cover a whole lot of news this morning. let's get right to it. we are at day nine. >> it has been more than a week since airasia flight 8501 disappeared. >> we are in the area where some bodies have been found. the conditions are less than ideal. the only survivor of a plane crash that killed her family. >> her little legs and arms were scratched up all over. that's what amazed me that she kept on walking. >> no one really knows why someone survives and someone doesn't. >> when we die, it does not mean we lose cancer. >> i love you stuart wherever you are, god's speed, rest in peace. >> have a great rest of your
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life. >> good morning, everyone welcome to "new day." i'm john berman the search for area flight 8501 wrapping up its tenth day. so far, it's turned up mostly disappointments and obstacles. at least one of the suspected plane parts on the floor of the ja za sea. it has turned out to be a year's old ship wreck with mud on the sea floor slowing efforts even more to identify other objects. >> meanwhile the search for the black box is still coming up empty. investigators not hearing the pinging. they want to know what brought down the plane and whether ice could be the culprit. this as indonesia's navy chief expanding the area eastward as severe weather again forces an early end to the aerial search. so let's go right to cnn's anna coren live on the ground in ind feesia indonesia. >> reporter: authorities did suspend the search because as you say bad weather was
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hampering efforts. it has been for days now. but but certainly, there was a window of opportunity where at least 57 divers got into the water for a short period. unfortunately, there is so much mud at the bottom of the oaks and due to the swell, it is making visibility almost impossible. on top of that you have the rain the thunderstorms, it is slowing down efforts to locate the plane, locate the bodies and, of course, the vital black box recorders. three extra bodies were located today, retrieved and have been sent here to surabaya where they will then be identified. it's a pains taking task considering how much time they've spent in the water. this is now day nine. do you to that length of time the scheme deteriorates. it means taking finger prints will virtually be impossible. they will have to resort to bone
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and teeth to make those identifications, authorities believe it will take weeks, if not longer to find the bodies the fuselage to find those black box flight recorders, alisyn. >> that's quite the search. thanks so much for the back grouchldz i spoke with leiutenant lauren cole about how the u.s. is helping in these recovery efforts. so what, if anything have the navy divers been able to find today? >> reporter: as of yet the neff divers don't have anything of interest but they're continuing to search t. scope of the sonar they are useing is relatively small areas. so it's a slow progression. but they'll be out there as long as they are needed. >> so we understand the conditions at times make for zero visibility. it's so muddy. >> that must be a challenge? >> reporter: there are definitely some challenges. it's monsoon season out there right now.
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so the waves are a little bit choppy and that can present some issues to launching some of the smaller craft that we use to deploy the side scan sonar from however, the fort worth is equipped with some larger versions of those crafts so they can handle a little choppier waves than the other ships we have. >> tell us about the equipment you are using the side scan sonar. >> reporter: it's a high frequency high scan sonar. it's called the tow fish system. it's designed to mount the bottom of the oaks floor. it provides highly accurate imagery for further analysis. it can find things as small as a golf ball. it can go as large as a fuselage. >> that's incredible. as small as a golf buhl. so has this sonar yet detected something as big as the fuselage? >> so far what the u.s. navy has detected we haven't found any items of interest yet. our doifrs continue to scan the area. like we said the areas they are
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sablt scan with the fidelity we are looking for here is relatively small. we are talk one two, three square miles. if you scan a larger yeah, you get liss fidelity. >> i see. i hadn't realized how much peril there is for the divers until i read any sharp object can cut them cut their oxygen lines. so how are your divers dealing with all the hazards? >> we don't have any divers in the water yet. right now, they're employing the flight scan sonar, so we haven't had to worry about that yet. however, our divers are very very highly trained and they are well versed in responding to any of the hazards that come with their specialty. >> you sure are. have you lots of sadly, experience in this kind of recovery. the navy 7th fleet looked for the missing plane nh-370. can you compare and contrast for us what this search is for us versus that one?
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>> reporter: obviously, we are dealing with a much smaller area here. we have a relatively good idea meaning in the scope of tens of hundreds of miles in the year that we are searching. this is an indonesian-led search. so the u.s. navy is just supporting. we will go wherever the ind notion government asks us to go and support. with mh-370 there wasn't whole lot of fidellty or certainty where that plane can go down. you use sonar that can handle much larger areas. >> have you been able to detect any of the penging from the plane's black boxes. >> so far, there haven't been detection of penging. >> how do we explain that? >> i don't have a good answer for you on that yuan one. as far as what our divers are using, it's precise scan sonar, not specifically designed to map the bottom of the oaks floor. so that's where our efforts are concentrated right now. we still have the helicopters
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aboard ft. worth and aboard sampson doing air searches and surface searches as well. >> how many u.s. personnel would you say are there assisting? >> we have around 100 on fort worth, about 330 on sampson. we are probably closer to 500 personnel out there on station. >> leiutenant lauren cole thanks so much. best of luck with the herculean efforts it will take out there today. >> reporter: thank you very much. >> john over to you. >> all right, thanks,al sen. now to kentucky where a brave 7-year-old girl is inspiring millions going to great lengths to survive after a plane crash killed her parents, her sister and her cousin. investigators are hoping to speak to sailor gutzler soon figuring out she could be the key to discovering the tragedy. she somehow escaped the crash, walking a mile in the woods in near freezing temperatures
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before finding help. later, we will speak with larry wilkins, a man who helped sailor when she arrived at his home. first, we are tracking the latest developments in this story of survival. next. >> good morning, john larry wilkins is getting a lot of attention for his role to play in this he will tell you it's 1y50ir78d gutzler the bravest person he met. state police detailed her incredible journey to get help. 7-year-old sailor gutz sler is the only survivor of the plane crash, her mom dad, sister cousin dead after their small piper plane crashed in the woods of western kentucky. her remarkable journey begins of trying to stir her family. >> her family on board was unresponsive. she utilized her fawn injured arm and hand to free herself from the aircraft. >> reporter: in the pitch black, same for treks nearly a mile through grizzly terrain,
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navigating ditches, fallen trees, broir patch, even a 12-foot creek bed bare foot weaker only shorts no, coat in the 94 freezing cold before finally stumbling on a home. >> at the scene, we were speaking of that being di 15 intervention there. she absolutely went to probably the nearest house that she could have. >> reporter: the home belongs to larry wilkins, one of the only three in the area occupied during winter. he hears a knock at the door and finds sailor scraped, bloody, upset, telling him she had just been in a plane crash asking for help. >> friends, family, a stunned community grieving a loss are grateful for the one life that was spared. >> immediately, pretty angry that something like this would happen. it's just unbelievable. >> and it's no wonder why people are calling this a miracle. little sailor gutzler she was
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treated for minor injuries and released from the hospital over the weekend. >> thank you so much. we will speak with that man who sailor gutzler arrived at his house in a little while. >> a tremendous story there. north korea blasting the white house, call agnew round of u.s. sanctions an act of hostility. those sanctions are retaliation for north korea's alleged cyber attack asenseagainst sony. will good to see you. >> reporter: good morning, mikaela. north korea's strategy that they're using here appears to be trying to discredit the occupation they're clearly watching international news coverage. they're talking about some of the cyber security experts skeptical that north korea was involved in this hack thinking it might be an inside job, north korea saying the united states is launching the sanctions as a way to try to validate a shaky case and accusing the u.s. of essentially bullying against north korea.
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however the u.s. pushing forward with these sanctions, which could have a financial impact making it more difficult for north korea to make money in one of the ways it does by publicly naming people selling weapons all over the world in iran russia,ing a, syria. the u.s. mikaela, saying these sanctions are a beginning and there may be moring as because of those cyber attacks on sony. >> we will continue to watch those stories vice president joe biden and his wife will attend the quake for governor cuomo. thousands of mourners are expected to pay tribute. the current governor andrew cuomo and the father of our friend and anchor chris cuomo, he will be laid to rest tomorrow. mr. cuomo died of heart failure new year's day at the age of 82. years of the boston marathon the trial against dzhokhar tsarnaev begins today with jury selection. 1,200 nails will be narrowed down to 12 jurors and six
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alternates. we learned this morning talks were held on a possible plea deem. those talks failed. dzhokhar tsarnaev is accused of killing three and injuring more than 260. hundreds of fork city police officers once again turning their backs on theorem battled mayor bill deblasio. this happened sunday during the eulogy for officer wenjin liu. many officers turned away from a video feed even after their boss police commissioner bill bratton asked them to keep politics out of the funeral. many feel he has created an anti--cop climate in the city. those are your headlines. >> we will have more on that 7-year-old girl who survived a plane crash in kentucky. she wanderred through the woods. she found a house, where someone was home and willing to help. we will speak to that man larry wilkins next. and congress is back. the republicans will be in charge as of tomorrow but there
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is already dissanction in the ranks. it's a growing chaling to speaker john boehner may spoil a little at least about that party at least the beginning. we will have that and more "inside politics." well, i just have a few other questions. >>chuck, the only other question you need to ask is, "what else can you do for me?" i'll just take a water... get your credit swagger on. become a member of experian credit tracker and find out your fico score powered by experian. fico scores are used in 90% of credit decisions. ♪♪ ♪♪
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it is a story equally remarkable as it is tragic. a 7-year-old girl miraculously survives a plane crash that killed four family members, including her parents. after the crash, sailor gutzler walked a mile in the woods in near freezing temperatures to find help. she ended up on the doorstep of larry wilkins who brought her in and called for help. mr. wilkins jones us now from
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kentucky. good morning larry, thank you so much for being with us. >> good morning, sir. >> i got to sigh that has to be a moment you will never forget. you open your door there is a 7-year-old girl on your doorstep bare foot saying that she was just in a plane crash. describe that moment for me. >> i don't know i guess the best way to describe it to answer the question how manys would you open the door and see a 17-year-old girl bare foot in short pants and bloody nose tears in her eyes and needing help? once in a lifetime for me. >> when she told you that she had been in a plane crash, what went through your mind? >> well, the first thing is i didn't hear anything. you know as the crow flies, it probably wasn't a quarter of a
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mile but i heard no noise whatsoever and when she told me a plane crash, immediately, i looked outside to see if there was any smoke or anything like that. no there was not. so i brought her in the house and propped her feet up and called 911 and got ahold of a police officer and fortunately he was real close to the house him he got there in oh probably ten minutes. >> a lucky thing. >> the little girl shelves amazingly composed for a 7-year-old girl who had just got out of a plane crash and lost her parents. it's amazing. >> i have a couple 7-year-old boys. and i know how they talk and even if good times, it's not always necessarily makes a huge amount of sense. explain to me how she said this to you how did she explain it
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to you? >> sir, she just said my mom and dad are dead we just had a plane crash and the plane was upsidedown i said it's kind of unbelievable, you know that a little girl would come out. you have to bear in moend how rough the terrain is in the woods, a lot of briar bushes her little legs were cut up from the bottom of her shorts to the tip of her toes. it was about 35 36 degrees. it was drizzleing. so she was a little wet. not soaking wet. a little bit wet. i imagine those little feet were pretty daggone cold. >> you got her warm you had about ten minutes before the emted, emergency officials were
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finally able to get on the scene. what did you talk about those ten minutes, what went on inside the house? >> well i tried to get all the information out of her i could, but a little 7-year-old girl crying trying to talk. i couldn't understand very much of what she said. in fact i probably asked her name three or four times. and i never did get it right. but when the state policemen come he would write it down and sold it up to me and say is this the way you spell it? he finally got her fame. but i tried to find out if she had any relatives, any phone number anybody i could call? and she didn't know any. she did tell me a sister that was expecting and i said honey, what's her name or phone number? she didn't know her phone number and didn't know for sure where
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she lived. >> just 7-years-old. talk to me about the area around your house. you said you know there was a creek bed, briars a difficult walk for anybody let alone a 7-year-old girl at night. >> yes. we had an ice storm here in 2008 and this woods is i was told last night it was 1,400 acres total. but now here i'm probably two blocks from a minor highway to know that the good lord was with her. she walks the other direction, you probably wouldn't find her for weeks. so she'd be walking into just more woods. but the ice storm knocked a lot of these trees down probably 20 or 30% of those trees are fogged down. so everywhere she walked she had a detour. it's probably as the crow flies maybe a quarter of a mile from
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where that plane crashed, but you couldn't walk it in a straight line. i'd say she walked three-quarters of a mime. she had a creek bed to go through. briar bushs to go around fallen trees to walk around. i've said many times, i don't like to walk in that woods in the daylight much less dark with no light. >> so it was either good luck or something else that brought her to your house. it's an amazing thing. you had a chance to speak no her grandfought, grandfather, i hear if you can get a message to sailor what would you want to them her today? >> i wish her good luck. i know she's having an extremely hard time and probably in her mind she doesn't understand everything that's going on right at this moment but her grandfather was a very very pleasant person and, in fact actually i didn't do anything
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that you wouldn't do or anybody you know probably wouldn't do if a small child come to your door and in that kind of condition. i've got twodachshund dogs they helped her a lot. her grand daddy told me she had a dachshund. those little dogs love everybody. they took to her just immediately. i think that helped calm her down quite a bit. >> your dogs helped to calm her down. you say you didn't do anything you, sir, larry, you were kind in a moment of crisis that in and of itself is a wonderful thing. larry wilkins, thank you so much for what you did. we appreciate it. we know sailor and her family do as well. >> thank you, sir. >> alisyn. >> john what an incredible story. how sailor could have navigated after a trauma like that through the woods and be only 7-years-old.
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i mean you were just saying you have 7-year-olds. i have a 17-year-old. it's just remarkable. it's a miracle. >> the presence of mind that she had and the dosiere composure, larry, he couldn't figure out her name he couldn't understand it. she was clear enough to say what happened and clear enough for him to get on that call for help and thank goodness it was 12 minute away. >> it's incredible. he didn't hear the knock on the door. she's afraid she's trembling, in trauma. it was the dogs that alerted him that there was something going on. the whole thing is just remarkable. angels among, i swear. >> those same dogs kaumd her down. they played a key role in this story. >> if i ever am in trouble, i hope larry wilkins comes to the door. >> me too. >> what a sweet heart of a man. >> john thanks so much. moving on to politics. how about new jersey governor chris christie hucking it out
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part of the plane turned out to be instead a part of a ship wreck. monday's aerial has been called off because of severe weather in the area. afghan president is asking president obama to withdraw his troops by 2015. he said quote deadline should not be dogmas. this comes as militants declared victory over the u.s. president obama, meanwhile, is committed to withdraw all u.s. soldiers by the end of next 84 leaving afghanistan to look over its security. a nightmare flight for plane load of passengers traveling from abow dhabi to san francisco, the trip normally takes 16 hours, but fog, fog forced the plane to remain on the par macat abow dhabi airport for 12 hours. remember this is after the plane landed following a 16-hour flight. 28 hours on the very same plane. airlines apologized for the
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delay. officials say the fog caused him to can sell a total of some 20 flights. i got to show you this view imagine this being your job. this is kevin schmidt of south dakota. change a light bulb. the tippy top of a television tower. some 1,500 feet above the ground. not kevin, though after changing the light bulb he took a selfie. i'm going to say, an epic selfie. yes, in deed he is wearing a safety harness. >> what if he drops the phone? >> i don't think that's a part of your clause the insurance package you gettior your cell phone. what also i find upsetting is that it sways in the wind while it's up there. i salute you, kevin, you the man. >> there's got to be an easier way to change that light bulb. >> i'm just saying. >> maybe he could have those long lasting like seven years kind of. >> way to go on the selfie. always a good time for the selfie.
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i live by that motto. let's go "inside politics" on "new day" with mr. john king. >> incomfortable days ahead for speaker boehner. >> was that a helicopter that shot that picture or the personal berman drone? >> it was a berman drone. >> super secret out there taking those pictures. it is a busy time good morning, everybody, let's go quickly "inside politics" to share reporting and insights here in washington. jackie kucinich congress returns, i don't think there is any doubts john boehner will be reelected spokeer. boehner does face a challenge from a couple tea party grass roots conservative guys that say he's been too compromising. let's look right here, louis goal gomer from texas. gomer was on fox news yesterday explaining he says look he's had enough of john boehner. listen. >> you deceived us when you went
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to obama and pelosi to get your votes for the control cromny bus. you took the only hostage that obama would like for us to soot. it was a terrible strategy. it follows a number of years of broken promises. it's time for a change. >> an andy warhol moment. do they have a chance? what are we expecting? eight, maybe a dozen? >> it's a high bar, 28 or 29 they will need to force a second ballot. neither have a natural constituency people who will line up behind them. this is mainly to prove a point and frankly embarrass a speaker. >> you embarrass a speaker, make him fight when he believes i was the guy that led you in the last election. he thinks it should be the question they won't knock him off. he will be reelected speaker. does it have an impact as republicans go forward?
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we watched speaker boehner have a hard time hurting the sheep and keeping the vote loyal. >> he has to rely on democrats, he will have to go across the aisle to get stuff done. that's what he has done in the past two congresss. i am sure it will happen this time around. it doesn't seem like john in january of 2015 that there is quite this sort of pulse st.ing energy that would propel somebody leak a goem tore shock the world and not boehner. this doesn't feel like the same moment of two years ago, where you have that tea party power. you saw boehner and mccollum take hold of their caucuss in the last two months. >> if i can add, they have a vote for speaker behind closed doors, boehner last 84 unanimously elected. most of the people come out in the party. they had a chance really to kind of exert their will. they didn't. >> the guys out there now the cameras weren't there. the guys know there is a faction
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of the conservative base that might send them money if they're publicly out there. >> exactly. >> a lot of fund raising. but you make a key point, mcconnell will be the leader in the senate boehner the bigger majority in the house. they now fully control the congress. you see the scaffolding around it. they have the responsibility to be a part of the governing coalition right now. they want to get going and prove they can pass things. here's a look at the early agenda. mitch mcconnell wants to bring up the keystone pipeline t. house and senate will work on jobs bills, keystone is a part of that hiring more heroes act. changes to obamacare and provisions on the 40-hour workweek. one of the early flash points will be they left on the table funding the department of homeland security which is that immigration fight. louis gomer was talking about. what are we going to see in the early weeks of congress will it be a mix? we will find democrats to help us here on keystone the obamacare dancing, we have the civil war on immigration.
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>> i think we will see a massageing of the bills in the senate. manying connell can't really pass something. some of the things will come out of the house. they will be a little too extreme for the moderate democrats. i think they will see changes. there will be a civil war over immigration, and i have no reason to think it will continue. >> i think in january you will see a few bills, keystone comes to mind. whether more consensus across party lines, once you get into february the combination of both funding dhs and also the next debt ceiling increase coming up. i think you will see some of the same challenges that boehner and now mcconnell are going to have here they've had the past few years. >> you had a smart piece, jonathan looking at the early lineup of presidential contenders and the prospects of some of the republicans jeb bush has the polls at 6 or 7%. his brother, won re-election in
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a campaign in which he closed every speech promising a constitutional amendment. listen to jeb bush over the week talking to the miami herald saying it ought to be a local decision the state decided. it's been overturned by the courts i guess, he is talking about his home state of florida there. it's fascinating to me. that's more of the dig cheney or rand paul position that marriage shouldn't be a constitutional issue. it should be decided state by state. we already know jeb bush had issues with the republican base on immigration. issues on common core education standards. will this hurt him in. >> i think it will be a challenge with that group, certainly. this has sort of been his issue for a while now that frankly, it's kind of the weigh station. it's a bridge for a lot of folks in the party. you can't call your full. at the same time can you be abegins an issue at a federal
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level. let have the states decide this thing. here's the problem with that jeb bush's only state the courts have overturned it. starting today, in miami-dade tomorrow state wide these county clerks will be issuing licenses for marriages for same sex couples. so the challenge for jeb bush is for states to decide well, now the states are actually deciding it and they have to face the issue. it's tough. >> several of those issues jeb bush is not going to be to the right. >> that's as close as i get on this monday early in the new 84. let's look at the football time itself over the weekend. the winners over the week the cowboys boat the lions, the colts beat the bengals. the ravens beat the steelers and the panthers over the cardinals. we head into next weekend where those baltimore ravens go up to new england to lose to my patriots. but that's not why we are talking about this. chris christie who is the governor of new jersey do you
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think jets or giants? no he's been a lifetime cowboys fan. take a look at what do we want to call this? that's jerry jones, chris christie and his lucky sweater. cowboys are winning and, yeah i'm not sure what to call this politicalty, christie loves football. to his credit in a loud media environment. he said sorry, cowboys are my team. he stands by it. any politics here or just sports? >> sheer happiness is what that looks like. sheer joy. >> this is someone who loves being, not just in politic, also being a part of a national celebrity. i think being in a box with jerry jones for a kid from jersey is pretty cool. >> at a playoff game. >> enjoying the system. maybe he's a good luck charm for cowboys so far? i guess jerry jones will have him at every game until and
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unless. >> how far are you willing to go to win? you have to take some of these things into account. >> was that a huck or a headlock? >> the sec time he goes in. it wasn't clear he wanted a part of it. he says no, i will stay. >> let me watch this part. he is excited. >> the first time okay. hug me hug me. hug me. then aye, okay. okay. >> then the head was there a kiss on the top of the head there? there is a lot of man bromance happening as well. >> not sure what to call it. a, i want to see if the sweater shows up i think that was shot by the berman drone. >> yes. >> it's a very busy drone. thank you very much. >> thanks so much. all right, stick around. we have something interesting to show you. a piece of the same submersible equipment. they are using to locate airasia flight 8501.
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they get there on their own, finding the don't using side scan sonar. we are ginned right now to talk about the device him i will walk over on water here to check this out. so this is tibburon device. it has side scan sonar, you put it under water, what does it do? >> this is the future. in flight 370, you are seeing the huge systems, it does everything the huge systems do. it doesn't go as deep. we can print, six, ten of these for the cost of six big ones. you got ten times as much area to cover. >> are they using something like this right now on the ja za sea? >> i don't think they are. they are in the military now. our company is leasing these out to operators for whatever purpose we need them for. we are like a service provider for the equipment. in three-to-four years if a
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flight went down leak this you can deploy four five six of these at a time. put them in with helicopters off small boats. you can cover some ground. even in the heavier seas you request get these operating. they're not tied to the boat. >> and the idea is to map the ocean floor? >> correct. >> how does it do that? >> this has sonar pay load here. it basically side scans sonar you have been covering for several days. it shoots out sound and brings it back. it can take long range pictures. you can find an object like that ship wreck that they found, you can get closer images an idea exactly of what it is. >> how much can it do in one day? >> i probably do eight square nautical miles with this system 20 if you run it 24 hours a day. there is a battery pay load when you shrink down we have to change batteries every 8 hours. >> this is autonomous it does it on its own. you have a joystick?
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>> i can drive it remotely up to the boat. hold on. >> it's got a glitch. it's autonomous this morning, it's deciding not to behave on its own autonomously. >> it's fine the computer systems are fired up. we don't want to waste the time on tv to do that. it runs itself it's a preprogram. it will go down detective, come up. what is beautiful about this i can wifi the data off it if i have to. if it's rough, i can pull files off of it without getting in the water. >> one of the problems in the java sea is the mud, everything is tossed up there. they're having a hard time with cameras. the mud, does that affect this? >> no this can see through. that it can a little if its really muddy. it sees through it. it uses sound like doll feven echo located. >> there are a lot of ships in that sea, a lot of activity right there.
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is this affected be i the amount of activity going on in the water? >> it will map everything that's there. this is what you will have to do with this wreckage. you have to map it. every forensic guy tells you you have to know where every part of the wreck is. this is the tool or these are the tools that will be able to map all that wreckage you put it on one big mosaic. >> you map it. what they're trying to do with whatever technology they have i imagine. you map it. then what? >> well every piece they bring out as a forensic study. they have no know where it came from. this gives you a general topographical map. they send divers down to recover, they can pluck it into that map. >> what does the military have? we were speaking to military personnel earlier, describing their role. what equipment do they have? >> they have some of these. they're not on the ship that's deployed. they're specific items. they mine countermeasure-type things. the sonar they probably have is what i seen on video is a towed
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arye it's heavy to tow. your imagery is wavy and hard to read and this gets down underneath all that sea and does its job. >> you say shallow, how deep can this go? obviously, we were talking mh-370. that's miles and miles down in the oaks. >> in the world of oceanic research this is a shallow vehicle, at 650 feet. >> that provides a lot of advantages in shallow water. >> there are a lot of applications, java sea perfect example. >> if you don't mind me asking how much does this go for? >> this system is a quarter of a million dollars. >> which is why i'm not going to break it. >> the bicker systems are three. i can put nine in for the cost of one big one. if two go down you got 80% efficiency. if one big system goes down operational wise it makes sense to have a lot of drones. >> are you surprised one of the large objects they found and were hopeful it was the fuselage
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turned out to be no ship wreck? >> not surprised as well a. lot of things have been dumped people have been traveling for thousands of years and world war ii is such a major campaign area out there. >> a lot going on out there. we will say good bye to our $250,000 device i have not broken yet. thank you. alisyn. >> from the sport world to the white house, tributes pouring in for espn anchor stuart scott who lost his long time battle with cancer at the age of 49. cnn's rachel nichols will share her remembrances with us next. yeah, i can fix that. (dad) i wanted a car that could handle anything. i fixed it! (dad) that's why i got a subaru legacy. (vo) symmetrical all-wheel drive plus 36 mpg. i gotta break more toys. (vo) introducing the all-new subaru legacy. it's not just a sedan. it's a subaru.
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when you die, it does not mean you lose to cancer. you beat cancer by how you live why you live and in the manner in which you live. [ applause ] >> we lost a good one folks. it's not often a sports caster can move so many people and touch so many lives the way espn stuart scott did. my friend stuart scott died sunday at age of 49 after a lengthy and fierce battle with cancer. he revolutionized sports broadcasting with unique catch phrases. any of you that knew him know there's so much more to the man. helping us look back on his life is one of our colleague rachel nichols. i'm glad to have you hear to talk about this guy. there's many conversations among us of those of us that knew him.
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i've been lucky to know the guy you knew the same guy we saw on tv. he was real. >> it's hard to say you're shocked at death of someone we all knew how sick he was. it seems impossible he's not here anymore. this is a guy diagnosed with cancer in 2007 seemed to beat it. spent four years healthy. just heart breaking in 2011 when the cancer came back. he seemed to beat it again. it came back again in 2013. we all felt stuart was invincible. it was the kind of thing that hit everyone so hard since he touch sod many of our lives in so many ways. every single athlete. michael jordan, tiger woods released statements saying how important he was to them. president obama saying how important he was. president obama said i'll miss stuart scott. 20 years ago he issued in a new way to usher in talking about our favorite teams.
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i loved obama said for much of 20 years public service campaigns kept me from my family. wherever i went i could flip on the tv and stuart and his colleagues were there. he offered prayers from michelle and his family. the entire generation felt they knew him. it's such a loss for all of us. >> what he did was different. when he started doing it 20 years ago now, other people weren't doing it. he revolutionized the way the game is talked about. >> you had the old model. we saw the anchorman, goofy sports caster. then you have the old man kind of david letterman take. stuart came in with the voice of change voice for the new generation. catch phrases he had,
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conversation people under the age of 30 were having. it was tough at first. there was a lot of criticism. a lot of people wanted him off the air. espn got pressure to have him tone it down. stuart was adamant, knew who he was and who he wanted to be. that became the standard. that's the power of stuart scott. >> in addition to how he sports casted he came to be known for how he publicly dealt with cancer. >> and with two girls who we know and love. he brought them to games all the time. i feel i saw them grow up from the time they were five to six years on the line. he loved them so much. he said over and over he was fighting for them. man did he fight hard and well. seven years battling cancer. that's longer than anyone thought he had. his force of will kept him alive alive. >> in our world of journalist he was generous. i'm part of the black journalist association. he would go annually to our
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convention. always had a kind word for the young kid coming up and wanted to be like him. would make time to mentor and give a word to somebody looking at the field. very generous in spirit. >> it takes a special person who didn't get that from colleagues when he came in to turn around and share being generous. >> can i share your tweet? the loudest laugh, kindest words, the best kind of friend. missing you already stu. we all do. >> can't believe he's gone. >> thanks rachel. back to one of our top stories. obstacles growing by the day in the search for 8501. bad weather changing search zones and still no sign of those pings or the black boxes. of course there's a ticking clock here. we'll go live to indonesia for
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there's any sort of closure. british royalty is involved in a sex scandal. >> she alleges she was kept three years be by the prince's former friend. >> she's going to have to prove this. good morning everyone. welcome back to "new day." it's monday january 5, 8:00 in the east. i'm alisyn camerota with john berman. another unsuccessful day comes and goes in the search for airasia 8501. nine days since the crash, no black box, no pings. one of the objects thought to be part of the plane turned out to be a ship wreck many the java sea. >> new questions about whether icing of the engines could have been a factor bringing that plane down. the search area has been revised again. this time to the east with muddy waters doing the search crews no favors. let's get to anna on the ground in indonesia. good morning anna. >> reporter: hi john. recovery teams working against
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the clock to try and find the bodies 162 passengers on board that ill fated airasia flight that crashed nine days ago. 37 bodies retrieved. the remainder of bodies are in the java sea decomposing in the warm tropical waters. the search has been called off tonight because of bad weather. there are real fears that it could take weeks if not longer to locate the bodies debris as well as those vital black box flight recorders. authorities ramping up the search for airasia 8501 with crews scouring the java sea both in the air and by water. by the afternoon, at least three bodies two male and one female pull ed from the water and taken to land. severe weather breaking long enough for officials to deploy a
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total of 57 divers to investigate several large objects detected by sonar imagery. the u.s. s. fort worth is using sonar equipment to scan the ocean floor. meanwhile, indonesian authorities extend the massive operation east beyond the most probable area where crews have retrieved dozens of bodies and located large pieces of debris believed to be from the aircraft. >> the position of where they find the debris is extremely important because of the fact you can determine whether there was an inflight break up or the extend of the break up once it hit the water. >> now nine days since the air bus 320 went missing, so far no detections of the black boxes. >> the black box tells you what people were saying, records sounds. might hear a bang for instance. you have a recorder telling you thrust settings the engines are
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on. you can recreate in a great deal of detail what was happening with the plane. >> officials revealing airasia did not have the permit to fly the route on december 28th clarifying the airline was approved to fly the route four days a week which did not include sunday. a full investigation is obviously underway. realistically, month one will know what happened to that plane until they recover those black boxes. the flight between here surabaya and singapore has been suspended. airasia is cooperating with the investigation. >> thanks for that background. what's next in the crash investigation? let's bring in miles o brian, aviation specialist and correspondent. nice to see you. you study this all the time. what's your theory on why this happened? >> when i hear icing brought this plane down i wonder if
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something got lost in the translation. hail ingested into the engines and striking the aircraft could match a what we see here. if it was as simple as engines flaming out because of moisture or they iced over -- there are prevention of icing of engines -- if that were the case you would have an aircraft perfectly flyable with no power. it has glide capability at that at actuality perhaps 100 miles. several minutes of glide time the crew could point toward land and get on the radio. i think something more catastrophic happened catastrophic happened. >> your theory is hail. can airplanes though the fly through hailstorms? >> depends on how big the hail is. it can cause significant damage in you get many a situation like. that we don't know for certain it was icing. that could be a contributing
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factor. there's the possibility of a massive updraft to put the plane in a stall. could have been a combination of all that. that's usually the way these things go. it's seldom one way. it's like a chain. take one link out, you don't have an accident. >> do we think this is a surprise storm, a surprise pattern this plane confronted? was there a way to steer around it? >> there's always ways to steer around thunderstorms. they're intense, don't last long very localized. it's a matter of directing yourself around them. in that part of the world, if you decided not to take off because of thunderstorms either current or predicted, you'd never have a flight complete it's mission. what pilots do is take a good look at the weather, determine where the front may be fly toward it. they get closeer, use their
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radar and listen to what pilots say and determine how to get around safely. you don't fly into them. >> you and i have had occasion unfortunately to talk about various crashes. i was on a five hour plane flight last night. i'm a nervous flier as i've confessed to. one of the things that comforts me when flying i hear experts like you planes can hand turbulence. they're designed to handle turbulence. but then i hear you say if it gets in updraft, there's trouble. >> are there's limits. planes rainfall designed to be as economic with fuel as possible. they're designed to the edge of the safety envelope if you will. there's a lot of automation in these aircraft now and talk about how the automation is great 99% of the time. in that 1% at 1% when things go
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horribly wrong, you want the human being making the decision. there's question as to whether the human beings crews are not as in depth as pielots because of automation. the plane hands over the control at the worst possible time. the crew may not be able to deal with it. >> what's your theory on why they haven't heard the pinging from black boxes? >> i hate to beat this horse. in this day and age in the 21st century, we're basically trying to stick a microphone in the water and find a ping to find out what happened to this airplane is extraordinary to me. the pingers didn't work in air france 447. these may or may not work when they encounter water. battery may not have been charged. who knows. the fact we don't have real time sent up to the cloud is absolutely scandalous. the airline industry needs to do something about this now.
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>> so do you think the tail broke off which is where the black boxes are housed? if so how will they find the wreckage they need and the investigative clues to this plane? >> it's just a matter of time. it's relatively shallow water. just horrible weather there. the very weather that is part of this crash is making it difficult for searchers to do their job. it will happen. i'm a little surprised they haven't heard the pings. again, with the waves and the shipping traffic, it's a noisy environment. the best we can all hope for is a break in the weather. i think things will come into place. >> we'll all hope for. that thanks for your expertise. great to see you. let's go to michaela. thank you so much. here are your headline this is hour. an amazing story out of kentucky. a 7-year-old girl miraculously survived a plane crash had the killed her parents, sister and a cousin. 7-year-old sailor gutzler managed to walk almost a mile through the woods without shoes
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in near freezing temperatures to find help. she ended up at the door of larry wilkins who told us about the treacherous conditions that little girl faced. >> to know the good lord was with her. if she had walked the other direction, you wouldn't have found her a week. she would be walking in more woods. probably as a crow flies, maybe a quarter of a mile from where the plane crashed. you couldn't walk it in a straight line. i'd say she walked three quarters of a mile. she had a creek bed to go through, briar bushes to go around fallen trees to walk around. >> it's really amazing. federal investigators are hoping now the little girl can answer questions into why the plane went down. she was injured. she has minor injuries surprisingly. she's expect to be fine. a fund for sailor has been set up. an act of defiance by new york city cops again turning
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their backs on can de blasio. police commissioner warned officers to keep politics out of the ceremony. many blame the mayor for the climate in the wake of the death of garner. in custody suspected in his father's murder police allege thomas gilbert jr. shot his father following an argument sunday. they say the son fled the scene, barricaded himself in the apartment for hours until the officers broke down the door and arrested him. harper collins is apologizing for omitting israel from an atlas of the middle east. the atlas has been pulled and will be destroyed. the publisher was concerned the inclusion of israel would be unacceptable in the region.
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that decision triggered quite a backlash. he is saying he's sorry for the offense it caused. >> it's making a statement. groups like hamas that refuse to recognize existence of israel. when you publish an atlas that does the same you're getting in the discussion. >> you're not allowed to erase countries because of political correctness, or whatever that was. >> absolutely misguided. thank you. the trial of dzhokhar tsarnaev's trial is about to begin with the potential death sentence waiting for him. and a royal scandal. a woman accuses prince andrew and others of sexually abusing her when she was a minor. another man named harvard law professor who will be here to speak to us live.
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this morning, jury selection finally begins in the trial against boston marathon suspect dzhokhar tsarnaev. we're learning talks were held on a possible plea deal. they fizzled out when the government would not rule out the death penalty. his defense claims he was manipulated by his older brother tamerlan killed in a confrontation with police day afs thes after the attack. deborah has a preview. >> reporter: prosecutors are planning to move ahead with this trial beginning to day. 1200 jurors filling out questionnaires and then questioned by prosecutors and defense as both sides work to pick an impartial jury. right near the marathon finish line on a holiday monday in boston two explosions 12
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seconds apart. >> it was a scene of utter devastation and carnage. >> the home head bombs kill three people shrapnel tears through 200 spectators. he ran the fbi boston office. >> we were collecting pieces of shrapnel contained inside the bombs, bombs, pieces of the backpacks. >> day three, a break in the case. with surveillance video, a man in a white ball cap at the second blast site. >> he places the backpack down on the ground off his shoulder and stands around. a short time later, he makes a cellphone call. shortly thereafter you hear the first bomb go off. >> day four the fbi asks the public for help finding two men later identified as tamerlan and
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dzhokhar. the two high jack a car and get in a shootout with police. 26-year-old tamerlan tsarnaev is shot but manages to reload four times. >> he runs out of ammunition throws his gun and continues to run. >> officers tackled tamerlan. >> he smashes into one of our cruiserings err cruisers. >> by saturday there's a lock down. a resident calls 911. the suspect is hiding in his boat. he's got a sniper rifle pointed at his head. >> we didn't know if he had bombs on him. >> after a standoff tsarnaev
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surrenders. he is questioned and then read his rights. >> now tsarnaev's lawyers have repeatedly asked to delay this trial so they can have additional time to prepare. two weeks ago when tsarnaev was last here at the courthouse he arrived early. no sign and confirmation now she's inside. he has the right to be here and see the jurors. >> thanks so much for that. for more let's go to john. >> joining us now, evan perez, jeffrey tuben, cnn analyst and former prosecutor. evan earlier you broke news. there were discussions about a plea deal between the prosecutors and defense. they fell apart. >> they fell apart because the government refused to take the death penalty off the table. this is a case pretty much most of us know the outcome, at least the first phase of the trial is.
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everyone expects dzhokhar tsarnaev will be found guilty. the issue is whether or not they're going to put him to death as a result of that. that's where these talks hit a snag between the government and his defense. >> the feds won't take the dealt penalty off the table. judy clark is the defense attorney. she is known for being able to get deals. she couldn't do it here. >> that's right. when she was brought on this case, we all expected this was going to end up in a plea deal. this is it will path she tried to take. it appears the government decided there was not much more they wanted to do here. they wanted to proceed with the rile. the death penalty is something the victims and the survivors in this case all support it seems like. >> let's talk about the jury selection now in boston. it's interesting because there's been people that moved for a change of venue.
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get this out of boston. too many connected to bombings. that area may be a boone for them. this is antideath penalty state it's interesting. >> there hasn't been an execution since 1947. it's known as one of the most liberal political states. boston is the most liberal part of the state. they will be drawing from a injury pool that has at least some potential for people on it that are not at all sympathetic to the death penalty even if like everyone they're outraged by the nature of the crime. >> you're threading a needle both sides are, from the jury selection to find someone that doesn't have a friend or relative that was at the boston marathon. almost everyone i know knows someone that was affected. that person has to be willing to accept the possibility of death penalty. >> right. the legal term is death
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qualified jurors. jurors who will consider imposing the death penalty. if you are philosophically opposed to death penalty in all circumstances, you're not eligible to be on the pool as part of the jury. that skews the group somewhat in a pro death penalty direction. there are a lot of people that theoretically are for the death penalty but when they look at someone across the table, especially a young man, the big argument in this case is going to be how much he was influenced by his older brother. there's the possibility that one person and that's all it takes, could say no. >> let's talk about how this trial landfall play out will play out. the only defense is to say my brother made me do it. my older brother got me involved in this whole thing. i don't know if that will be a defense in terms of guilt or innocence. it could be something that helps him with the death penalty.
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>> i don't know how the guilt phase will go other than to say it's a slam dunk. it is really not in much dispute that someone else could have been involved in this conspiracy. however, the big issue, as you point out, will be how much influence tamerlan had. what a the prosecution is going to point out is how much independent action the younger brother had. how many things he did on his own. placing the bombs, getting ingredients, spending months putting this together. at any point he could have pulled out, turned his brother in. obviously he didn't. >> some of his own statements as well. >> there's the pictures photos physical evidence bomb making stuff in the apartment. then the writing left behind inside the boat that he was hiding in that said this from dzhokhar tsarnaev. we muslims are one body. hurt one, you hurt us all. stop killing innocent people and we will stop. the u.s. government is killing
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our innocent civilians. i can't stand to see such evil goo unpunished. there's motive written on the boat. >> that's after the bombing. that's after he saw the horrible carnage, three dead 8-year-old child dead the hundreds of horrible injuries. even after that he is talking, explains motives. that is going to be very tough to explain to the jury even if he was influenced by his brother. >> evan eric holder opposes the death penalty. >> right. he's an opponent of the death penalty. he's criticized it a lot. he's authorized it friday in the case of the shooter who killed the tsa agent at l.a.x. last year. he is willing to go this route in certain cases. you know, this is not a surprise he did it on this one.
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>> the jury will be told one thing, you know in the penalty phase, which is by the prosecutors. if not in this case when? if this kind of crime doesn't deserve the death penalty, what does? that's a tough argument. >> massachusetts is known. federal juries have handed down the death penalty in years. >> this is a case that was premeditated murder acts of terrorism, a lot killed in the iconic moment when the world was watching. you're right. thanks for being with us. alisyn? there's a growing sex scandal rocking the royal family. a woman claims prince andrew sexually abused her when she was a minor. she also claims famed lawyer also was involved. he'll be here to talk to us.
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. buckingham palace rarely goes on the record about pending legal matters, but the palace is speaking out about a sex claim abuse against prince andrew. four separate statements rejecting the allegations of sex with a 17-year-old identified as the woman named virginia roberts. in a lawsuit filed in the u.s. roberts says a wealthy investor forced her to sex slavery when she was a minor to please his powerful friends including prince an drew and well known attorney alan dershowitz. alan joins us now. nice to see you as always. this woman is making very serious and scandalous allegations against prince andrew and you. have you ever met this woman named virginia roberts? >> no absolutely not. i don't know who she is. she's made it up. she said i had sex with her on epstein's island. i was on the island once with my wife. my wife and daughter a
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prominent business school professor, his wife brother-in-law sister-in-law and their children. i was never out of my wife's sight 24 hours on the island. she said i had sex on jeffrey's ranch in new mexico. i was there an hour before the building was complete. no one was in the building. she said i had sex with her on epstein's airplanes. i was never on airplanes with her. she's making it up. the real villains are the lawyers, paul a former federal judge and brad epstein who filed this without doing checking. if they had checked the manifest and checked with me checked the witnesses, they would know not to fire this kind of stink ball in court without checking. these lawyers will be disciplined. i am seeking their disparment. that's what ought to happen. no lawyer south to be able to practice that makes these accusations that are false without minimally checking.
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>> you've never even met this woman virginia roberts? >> absolutely not. >> okay. and the man at the center of this scandal, jeffrey epstein, wall street billionaire, what's you're relationship with him? >> i represented him. i made a deal for him. it was a good deal. if you don't like the deal criticize about that. don't make up stories that have no basis whatsoever in truth. i never met this woman, never touched her, never massaged by her. there was no contact, no contact whatsoever. i will prove it and bring disciplinary charges and prove these lawyers knew that this was false, could easily have checked and didn't. the end result will be that these lawyers will be disbarred. no lawyer should be able to practice when they have those low ethics and low ethical standards. >> here's what she says.
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>> i have challenged her to repeat statements in public. she says she refuses to. repeat the statements so i can sue you. they were in a privileged legal document. it didn't ask for a hearing. through the stink bomb it's the legal equivalent of writing graffiti on the bathroom wall and running away. i'm filing a sworn after the denooiing categorically the truth, seeking to intervene in the case challenging her to file rape charges against me. i waive statue of limitations. if she files a false rape charge against me she goes to jail. the end result should be she should go to jail lawyers should be disbarred. everyone should understand i'm completely and totally innocent. >> the court documents we have an excerpt of one of them. let me read one for our viewers.
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jeffrey epstein required jane doe number three to have sex with dershowitz on numerous occasion while she was a minor. dershowitz was an eyewitness of other minors by epstein and other coconspirators. did you ever witness any sexual encounter? >> absolutely not. i wrote to her lawyers and told them that a four or five years ago when that allegation was made that i might have been a witness. remember this woman, who i haven't identified you have is a prostitute. she's a liar. she has charged bill clinton with having sex with her on the island when secret service records show he was obviously not on the island. she planned to meet the queen. buckingham records show that's not true. how does a lawyer rely on the
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statement of a woman who's a serial purger serial liar serial prostitute and bring charges against somebody with an unscathed reputation like me without checking? shame on those lawyers. they have to pay a heavy price for what they have done in abusing the legal system. >> buckingham palace has released a statement. let me read that to you. they say a serious allegation of sex with a minor was levelled with the duke in a legal doxment submitted to the u.s. court. it's denied the duke of york had any form of sexual contact or relationship with virginia roberts, any claim to the contrary is false and without foundation. what is your relationship with prince andrew if you have one? >> i met him on several occasions. i was invited to a formal dinner and he was the guest. we talked about the middle east. i was invited to a birthday party a, and he was there. i was invited to an invent with an astronaut coming back from out of space.
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there was a lunch sponsored by faculty. i've never been alone with him. i've never seen him participate in these activities. i know nothing about the allegations regarding him or anyone else. i have never oebed improper conduct in relation to jeffrey epstein, never participated in it. the story is simply false. it's not a matter of degree. it's totally, willfully, know gli false. these lawyers putting this story forward have to pay heavy consequence. i'm going to sue them see they're disbarred. i challenge them to come on your show and repeat the statement. let them come on the show and say alan dershowitz had sex with this woman. they'll be in court the next day having to justify that statement. now they're hiding behind privilege, refusing to make those statements. they put this in a legal document that gives them protection. i'm accusing them of unethical behavior. let them sue me.
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i a wait the student to prove my innocence and their guilt. >> what happens next? what are you going to do today? >> today i'm filing a sworn statement making the same challenges i put forward today. i'm filing a motion to intervene in the case they filed. they don't want me to have opportunity to answer. we're preparing disbarment and disciplinary papers. i'm issuing the challenges i've issued to have her charge me with rape crime of rape most serious crime anyone can imagine. if she does she will go to judge for filing a false rape charge. i'm taking very very after gresive actions to make them come forward and justify their conduct. so far they've hidden behind privilege, behind a legal document they filed and refused to comment behind a lawyer like statement which doesn't repeat the allegations. come out from behind the privilege. come on the show make the statement. stand behind what you've said. the statements are totally completely categorically false
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from top to bottom look, this is a zero sum game. either i'll end up being disbarred and criminally charged or they will be. there's no gray area here. one of us is telling the truth. one is lying. i am telling the truth. i can prove it. they are lying, and i can prove it. >> if charges are categorically false, what's in it for virginia roberts? why is she doing this? >> trying to sell a book. she sold her story to british tabloids. she's a serial liar. she's a woman who claims to have been with the queen, to have been with bill clinton on the island. she's made up stories from the beginning of her life. she has a criminal record. the prosecutor in palm beach county once refused to bring a case because she had no credibility. lawyers could have found this out. i found all this out in one day. lawyers could have found this out. she's a totally non credible
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person. nobody should believe a word she says. the records establish that. why records did it put them on the show and ask them the question. why would they try to destroy the reputation of somebody b with a 50 year perfect rep occupation to gain money and litigation advantage? i don't understand it. i've written to friends of mine that know paul and asked why would he do this? why would he engage in unethical behavior put his bar license on the line? why would he put his academic teaching career on the line? he may get fired for filing this unethical document. if he's disbarred, he probably will be fired. ask him that question. you've asked me everybody question. i'll answer any question. i'm not hiding behind privilege. >> we have extended an invitation to her attorneys and do hope to ask them those questions tomorrow on "new day." >> they will not respond. they will not respond. they will not. i make a prediction. they will not state on your
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show, quote, alan dershowitz had sex with this woman. they will not because if they do that they're in court the next day being sued for $100 million. >> we appreciate you coming on "new day." >> thank you. let's go to john. >> wow. okay. tremendous waves that would swallow up a boat, awful monsoon season weather, a murky ocean bottom. only one reporter got to go and she is one of ours. we'll show you the conditions crews have to go through first hand.
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the search for airasia 8501 is a tale of one step forward and two steps back. nasty conditions in the java sea and murky sea bottom complicating efforts. how complicated are they? a handful of reporters were able to travel to the search zone. we are joined with paula now. >> we've been hearing a lot about these summer monsoons in indonesia, the weather conditions. on sunday we had the chance to see first hand how it's affecting the search operation. >> the desserted beaches of
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indonesia below the horrors at sea. 100 nautical miles to the search zone calm waters and sunshine disappear. >> we've been on the sea four hours. we've got another three or four to go. as you can see, the weather has started to close in the closer we get to the crash location. we're told even though waves are fairly high and a lot choppier this is considered fairly good weather. this is better than it has been for some days. >> the crew look for debris and bodies. one of them spots something. he's unsure what exactly. the captain calls it in a larger ship in the area which will investigate. the search and rescue boat has a specific mission, to deliver a pinger locater to help with the vital search for the so called
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black boxes. the captain is nervous about the weather. i feel the heavy moral burden, he says. i have the responsibility to keep those on board safe. it's so important to help find bodies and debris. larger ships can cope with these conditions he says. this is not a large ship. the contact boat is in sight. time to hand over the equipment. easier said than done. one of the men who's in charge of that equipment was going to jump across. quite frankly he doesn't want to. he said it's simply too dangerous. next job, transferring the boat from which to operate the equipment. a task the crew struggles with until dark. he will have to admit defeat at
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least for today. the exhausted crew returns to land with half the mission accomplished. >> it is a huge international effort at this point. we know there's two u.s. ships on site. there's some from australia, malaysia singapore. without better weather, there's a limit to what they can do. >> paula is happy to be on dry land. time for five things you need to know for your "new day." the search for airasia hitting major hurdles. a large item thought to be a part of the plane turned out to be a ship wreck. no location of the black box three weeks from the end of its batteries. dzhokhar tsarnaev faces the death penalty if convicted. plea talks fell through when the government wouldn't take away capital punishment. a 7-year-old girl is
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recovering after her plane went down in kentucky friday killing four family members. investigators are hoping sailor gutzler can answer questions and help investigators determine what caused the crash. afghan president is asking president obama to reexamine his plan to withdraw all troops by 2016 telling 60 minutes, deadlines should not be dogmas. this as taliban militants ramped up attacks as they pulled out most troops last we're. thousands including vice president joe biden and his wife are expected to a attend a wake in manhattan for former governor cuomo. the 82-year-old will be laid to rest tomorrow. we always update those five things to know. visit cnn.com for the latest. new york city police again turning their backs on mayor bill de blasio. what can be done to stop this friction?
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wenjian liu's funeral sunday. once again the funeral overshadowed by silent protests by members of the police department. officers once again turn their back on the mayor. they did the same at funeral for rafael ramos. this time they did it in defiance of a personal request from their commissioner. can this police department and the bosses union bosses figure out a way forward? let's bring in the senior pastor of first corinthians baptist church and former police new york detective. tom, oipt toi want to start with you. the police force got a message from bratton. he says i remind you when you don the uniform of this department you are bound by the tradition, honor and decency that go with it. he said this before the funeral. still many turned their backs. was it a good call? >> it was a personal call made
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by officers. not all officers turned their backs. the ones that did only did so when the mayor was speaking which was similar to the funeral for detective ramos. these officers feel that they have not been treated fairly and have not been supported by this mayor since the get go everyone when he was running for candidate for mayor. there was nypd specific letrhetoric during his campaign. they don't feel he's supportive of them. that's their way of showing that in the silent turn around. >> when your commissioner asks you, all be it nicely asks you basically not to do it. then to go ahead and do something like that. >> in that memo it states there would be no repercussions or disciplinary action taken. the police commissioner also understands the mind set. there's a lot of raw emotion running through officers. we had two officers assassinated in their car doing nothing.
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they weren't taking enforcement of any kind no engagement of any kind. that's the worst murder of an officer i can think of is one that's sitting there in uniform and targeted because of that as opposed to officers taking action and getting in a gun fight type of thing which is just as awful. this is even worse because they were minding their own business in their patrol car. >> i talked to members of the force also. their perception among some of them is that the mayor does not have their back. they used those exact words very much like that. that's their perception. in some cases perception is reality. that's perception of a lot of members on the force including those that turn their back there. what does the mayor have to do to turn that perception around? >> much of the perception that exists is based on narrative that is fuelled by tension and deviceness that exists between the mayor and police. i think it's healing, moving
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forward, and peace. i'm leery when i hear people say the mayor did not support the police. i think the mayor talked about police reform seeked to minimize and stop frisking. i think the mayor no way was talking about antipolice. >> he was talking about his son. >> i think we have to question any institution or said persons who feel that they are beyond critique. if i cannot make a critique without being viewed as anti something is wrong. it doesn't say something about myself. it says something about the institution fearful of being criticized. >> is this not members of the police force offering critique of the mayor? is he not open for critique? >> oh very much. have you not seen the rhetoric that's come after the events from the mayor? we have to be careful on that. >> anyone who's covered politics
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or been in politics. the mayor is not going to come out and apologize. probably not true first of all. he's probably not sorry about telling the story about his son. he's not going to say i'm sorry i made those statements. short of that what can he do to satisfy the members of the force? >> i don't think he's going to come out and say i'm sorry. you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who would have a conversation with his son about how he should be careful on the streets and what son. mayor giuliani and touted statistics saying his son has more to worry about crime within the neighborhood against someone from his own background than the police which he's touting statistics based on crime. so i think overall though based -- a lot of campaign was stop and frisk and changing -- the last sfragsadministration had gotten out of control. we can both agree on.
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that when you stop and frisk as a quantitative number that shouldn't be either. when he came out and didn't indict the officer at staten island island this was not the time to delay this about his son. >> does this give you a sense of where the lines are drawn now? right now neither side coming across the find middle ground. hopefully it happens soon. thanks for being with us. appreciate it. latest developments on the search for 8501. anna in for carol costello when "newsroom" begins right after the break.
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