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band it stretched and broke. >> not everybody has a exercise band. >> we wish him a speedy recovery. >> but he had to do that to show he was still in charge of the democrats. >> that is it for me. thanks for watching. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. "outfront" tonight, breaking news a new search for -- airasia flight 8501. the crew never picked up the weather report before taking off into a severe thunderstorm. this report was it a fatal mistake. and the miraculous story of a 7-year-old the only one to walk away from a plane crash. we'll hear from another sole survivor who cheated death. and a time capsule buried by paul revere. no joke. its contents revealed after 220 years. we're finding them out at this moment. we'll tell what you was inside. let's go outfront.
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good evening. i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, the breaking news. a new search for airasia flight 8501 about to start as we learn new mistakes before takeoff. we are learning that the crew failed to pick up copies of the weather report. this weather report here complete with the pictures and all of the details of the storms. and passed on an opportunity for a face-to-face briefing by government meteorologists before taking off into a deadly double cell thunderstorm. now this is according to indonesian officials. this is dozens of ships and aircraft picked up the search for bodies and the plane's fuse launch -- fuselage and among the search plane seats. 90 drivers in the search -- divers in the search zone have been able to follow up under water because of seas with near
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zero visibility despite the fact it is not that deep. 123 people are still missing from flight 8501. 39 bodies are now recovered. and one theory people are talking about is the large pieces of debris as well as the bodies found in tact. that indicates to some the plane probably descended horizontally when it crashed into the sea. what could that mean? paul hancock is "outfront" in indonesia. and we know sonar has picked up two large objects, divers haven't been able to confirm that. what do you know now? >> reporter: well, sairnerin we know the larger of the two is 56 by 30 feet so quite a significant size. but of course what they want to do at this point, the uss fort worth has detected them is to get under the water and see what they are. the hope is today the weather will be better. certainly we understand it will be. but it is the under water currents that are important.
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can they get divers into the water which they weren't able to on tuesday and will they get the submersibles down to find out exactly what the objects are. now of course they will be cautious until they know whether or not they are related to this plane. remember just a couple of days ago, one of the large pieces of debris they found, they announced was part of a ship wreck. so it is not just a plane that is down there at the bottom of the java sea. at this point, they have to be careful because there is obviously there are other things that could be mixed up with this. but certainly there is hope that this could be a break-through that they've been looking for. the side scan sonar from the u.s. picked it up on tuesday and certainly that is going to be one of the main priorities today, to find out exactly what these two metallic objects are. erin. >> paula, thank you very much. and tonight we're also learning new information about the weather report. i've got it here. here are the details, with maps as can you see and then all of the details of the pressure and all of the locations as you can
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see, about nine or ten pages. this report was not picked up by the pilots of airasia flight 8501. we have been told that the report may have been e-mailed to pilots. so the airline is saying something different than we are hearing from the indonesian government. the eight pages include a satellite image, showing the storms and wind speed and direction. and kwung law is "outfront." and this seems to be a potential series of missteps taken by airasia. >> reporter: miss steps by airasia and also more importantly, the suggestion there may be real cracks or problems with the entire infrastructure of the aviation system. there are questions about the rules, how lax are they does anyone follow them. a lot of in ternal discussion about the overall safety of planes landing and taking off from this country. while this discussion is happening here. the investigation, trying to
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find pieces of the plane, well we got an inside look at the hub running the search and rescue effort. the nerve center and the intense search for airasia 8501. 18 aircraft 38 ships in the java sea and real-time reporting into the command control center. moments after we walked in -- >> what is happening? >> we have another two bodies. >> the plane just spotted two bodies. >> reporter: two more bodies but they don't know for sure until the ship reached the coordinates and picks them up. this man is the head of the indonesia search and rescue the public face in the recovery. the man calling the shots, a life-long military officer trained for restraint and
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completing the mission. >> you want to find the bodies for the family? >> yes. as much as possible. >> reporter: what is possible is becoming more challenging, as the search stretches into double-digit days. indonesia expanded the search zone further east. officials at the command control center believe many passengers will be found on the sea floor still inside of the plane. one clue for that theory search teams already found three passengers all from one row still strapped to their seat belts. but others are drifting. a personal nightmare for the man charged with bringing them home. >> you are sleeping here? >> yeah. >> you are eating here? >> yeah. >> you have not left here. why? >> i can't. because of the responsibility and the situation and i am an officer and a pilot. >> reporter: the ship radios back. it has the bodies.
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>> reporter: do you think will you find all of the bodies? >> i'm not sure. but i'll try. >> reporter: two more returning. more than 100 still lost at sea. so the main strategy that we are hearing from the headquarters is to try to find the large sections of the plane. they think that many of those passengers may still be strapped to the seats. as we said erin they are hoping they will be able to find a black box in the large sections of the tail. erin. >> thank you very much. >> and out now, miles o'brien and david quest and david sousie sousie author of the up coming flight airasia flight 3 # 70. and they are saying the pilots didn't pick up the weather report that i'm holding here and the airlines say the pilots got documents about the weather via e-mail. so how do we know who is telling
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the truth and whether the pilots were aware of and fully understood the weather situation? >> it is hard to imagine a 20,000 hour captain not checking the weather before he begins an airline flight. that would be really beyond the pail. it is hard to imagine. but assume that happens hypothetically. i've looked at that weather report and by the way, it speaks for itself whether there is somebody communicating it to you, it is clear what is there. there is nothing in there that says to the pilot or anybody who knows about aviation that you shouldn't fly. it is perfectly safe to take off given what is in that report in the context of the time and the location. so really when you look at the accident the thing to look at is the decision-making in the air, 40 minutes later. the thing we do have to think about here is if the airline was cutting corners on the rules, what does that say about the culture of the airline, what does that say about maintenance or about any number of other things you might be concerned about. >> right. and when we talk about cutting
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corners, we do know the plane was flying on a day it was not authorized to fly. and richard, here is the question as miles points out, when you look at the weather report there were other people flying. 32,000 feet and there were five other planes affected by the storm and one an emirates plane going to dubai. and they got there safety. so does this suggest this was pilot error? >> i'm not going there. i'm not going down that road until we know more about it. what it suggests is -- an incident happened that the flight deck couldn't cope with. now that is obvious. the plane fell out of the air. >> whether it is mechanical or lack of training we don't know. >> right. we don't know that area. i've looked at the weather report and again it doesn't matter whether you get it face-to-face they knew what the weather was. and any way, there is a weather
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radar on the aircraft. can he see x number of mile as head of what the -- miles ahead of what the weather will be like. i think kansas crucial between indonesia, airasia and the parent company airasia in malaysia. and i've said it is a reputable main run airline. whether indonesia airasia was sort of not as tight on certain things as it should have been -- because the really significant point is running a plane when you haven't got permission. >> and that does show on some level, a corner was being cut by somebody somewhere. not the pilots but somebody at the airline. david, when you look at the new pictures of the debris we are seeing rows of seats. and i was talking about how important this is. the man in charge of the investigation of the air france crash which went down over a set of thunderstorms off the coast of brazil said the impact was not very violent and the jet was
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probably a horizontal position when it crashed. we are showing everyone the seats. again this is hard to look at but i think it is important to make the point about how this might have landed. david, do you have a sense as to whether that is true? his words, not very violent and probably horizontal? >> i don't know if i would go that far because there is no way to figure out what happened on the aircraft from one set of seats. but if you look at the structure underneath the seat, that is where it is extremely telling because it will tell you whether it was a straight impact straight down or whether if the seat is crooked, going forward or forward impact. there is a lot of information that can be gained from the structure of the seat how it was attached if the pins that hold the seat into the rail were ruptured and that will tell you whether it went forward or back. when you talk about landing in a horizontal position air france did that as well. but what happened there is that it landed on the back of the
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aircraft and most of the impact was absorbed by the back of the aircraft. so throughout the aircraft not knowing where the seats came from whether it was the back or the front. >> you can't tell. >> it could be significantly from the back to the front. >> richard. >> when we hear the phrase not very violent, i think he's talking about it didn't blow up in the sky and fall from the air. >> because it creates the possibility that maybe it landed and they weren't in pain and they had a chance to survive. that is what you think as a human being. >> i suspect, there is a issue in terms of that. i think you are looking at a sort of hitting of the water, if you look at the compression and the bending. >> so they slammed down. >> it is similar to what i think. i don't think anybody disagrees to 447. >> i think somebody must be lost in the translation. this is a airplane in a spin
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why doesn't he try it. and remarkable survival skills a girl walked away from a crash. and a woman survived eight days in the jungle and with broken bones. and police warned to be on alert for gang members tarting officers as two more new york officers are shot down chasing an armed robbery. that is next.
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the miracle sole survivor tonight sailer gutzler is in her home town of nashville, illinois. and funerals are under way for her parents, sister and her cousin all killed in a plane crash in kentucky. how did sailer survive the crash and that long trek to safety? george harold begins our coverage tonight in nashville. >> as this small town prepared to bury a family the grief is surpassed by a great sense of responsibility to take care of one 7-year-old survivor. >> obviously from the story, what has happened with her coming out of that wreckage and in the spirit she has, it is unbelievable. the resiliency that she showed and the determination and the courage most adults don't have that. >> reporter: michael brink is the superintendent of the school that sisters sailer and piper gutzler attended and knew the
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family well. >> simply put. one of the nicest families i've ever met. pillars of the community. everybody knew marty and kim and everybody loved them. >> reporter: he last saw the girls in school before christmas break. and then this past friday the small plane carrying marty, kimberly piper, sailer and their cousin sierra wilder crashed and killed everybody in the family except for sailer. >> you just think about sailer walking away from that bare foot, in shorts, through freezing weather, walking close to a mile it's just unbelievable. >> reporter: what she saw and went through is a story that only she can tell best when she's ready. but like sailer, a.c. morgon survived a crash when the plane he was on went down due to airplane trouble. he survive ed.
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he can relate to what she went through. >> it is 100% internal and i'm sure sailer had the same experience. >> reporter: moving forward, people in nashville know the road ahead will be challenging for all. for sailer without her family and for this school superintendent who expects to some day see sailer back in school but without her sister at her side. >> what i -- when i think of sailer i think of piper. they were always together. and that's a very hard reality to accept. but that is something that we are going to have to prepare for and, again, we will rally around sailer. >> reporter: and can you imagine how difficult it must be to explain what happened here to many of the school children at that school. we do understand that the superintendent will have grief counselors on hand next week for children there and this community does plan for a funeral. several funerals. we know that sierra wilder's funeral services are set for tomorrow and sailer's mother and
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father and sister are set for friday. erin. >> george thank you. when a vietnam airlines commercial jet with 31 on board crashed into a mountain only one person survived in 1992. not only was she injured and had a collapsed lung and she managed to survive for eight days. she wrote a book about it called turbulence a survival story. annette is "outfront." i saw you put your hand on your heart when you saw about sailer and what happened to her life. in your situation, your life changed from what you expected. you were with your fiance and the plane crashed. what happened? >> we were going to a beach, my fiance set it up i was a
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business banker and we went for days and when i saw the size of the plane, he didn't want to because i was claustrophobic. he said it was only 15 minutes and he lied to me and it was 55 minutes. and i was very nervous about the flight already and in the 50th minute, there were people screaming. i didn't think much of it because it was a little plane like that will feel with such -- to feel such drop. and then he was scared. we kept on flying another giant drop. he grabbed for my hand i grabbed for his. and everything went black. >> and so you were holding his hand and then it just -- do you remember the impact? or then all of a sudden what is your next memory? and obviously that bang was flying into the muntd? >> . >> yes.
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and what happened is the plane lost a wing and kept on flying and hit the other mountain. i was unconscious then and i woke up. the airplane had broken in two and the fuselage continued downward and i was stuck under seat with a dead person as it turned out. at my left i saw my fiance and he was dead. i could see he was dead. >> and then you went into shock and then you managed somehow in that shock and unconscious state to get off the plane? >> somehow, i must have done it. i was severely injured but it must have been mind over matter but i don't remember now. next memories i'm out on the jungle floor with a few more people out and the most of the fuselage was behind me with dead people inside and people were moaning. next to me there was a vietnamese man speaking to me in english, mostly about when the
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rescuers would come. >> but when they came in eight days you were gathering water and some -- found some way to gather water? >> later he died and i stayed next to him first and moved hours on his watch and then i moved away from him and i made a plan to collect rain water. >> and so do you know what it was that made you able to survive? your lung was injured, you couldn't walk your legs were broken your arm, hip and jaw. you were severely injured. >> i listened to my heart. i did not get emotional and nor did i let my mind run off in scenarios. just focusing on what is right in front of me and i did what hi to be done. >> and were you grieving for your fiance at that time? >> that was the one thing i suppressed. every time i thought of him, i had to stop thinking of it otherwise i would start crying and it would make me thirsty and
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weaker. so i forced myself not to think of him and i forced myself to look at the beauty of the jungle and that is what got me through. i totally folked on the beauty of the -- focused on the beauty of the leaves and the rain and the canopy. >> and it was such a tragedy and yet your life did move on. you had a daughter that would not have been your daughter if that wouldn't have happened. and you flew over the crash site and showed that to her. your life changed and you somehow made it a beautiful thing. what would you tell sailer? >> more than anything i would ask the people around sailer i hope she has a loving family of course first, but not to treat her -- she did something extraordinary but not to treat her different and everything has changed and that is horrible enough as it is and you want everything else to stay the same as much as possible and people treat you like you are -- >> different. >> she doesn't want to be
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treated like someone extraordinary, she wants to be treated the same. for you, you don't think it is extraordinary and when you come back it will put excess stress on her. she wants everybody to treat her normal. >> thank you for sharing your story. >> thank you for having me. and i want to bring in ron nealson, a former airline captain who runs a program for people who have a fear of flying and suffer traumatic events in the air. you just heard that story. and i know one of the reasons and we didn't get to talk about it was she did not have her seat belt on. and in the small planes people are claustrophobic what is your reaction? is that possible something like that could help? >> absolutely. the thing that we're talking about, erin is extreme forces in a crash that -- and that was experienced there. so i'm certainly not going to try to convince her the safest way to travel is with your seat belt but the odds are with you
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and i would hope people don't get the message, if i'm in a traumatic crash i'll undo my seat belt. you are still better if you are securely fastened in the airplane. and routinely, the odds of crashing at all are very, very slow -- small. so most people get hurt in turbulence because they didn't have seat belts fastened. >> and seat belts are for turbulence. not designed to deal with the crash any way. sailer was very small. and that is obvious -- and anet was a thin person. does size matter do you think, for sailer? >> again, it is so difficult to tell erin. but the one thing you can say about both of them they were in what i could call a cocoon from which their survival happened. and no one could predict that before the crash in either case. and they were just in the right place at the right time. and everything worked for them. >> i guess perhaps maybe being sheltered by the seat in anet's
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case or who knows what protected your body from death. thank you very much, captain. and "outfront" next police on alert. a new warning that gang members may be targeting officers as more violence striked new york city police officer. who officers were shot during a hold up. and brittains prince andrew andrewal allegedly of underage prostitution. and furgie standing by him. a full report. d a luminous protein in jellyfish impact life expectancy in the u.s., real estate in hong kongllegedly of underage prostitution. and furgie standing by him. a full report. and the optics industry in germany? at t. rowe price we understand the connections of a complex, global economy. it's just one reason over 70% of our mutual funds beat their 10-year lipper average. t. rowe price. invest with confidence. request a prospectus or summary prospectus with investment information, risks, fees and expenses to read and consider carefully before investing.
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breaking news there has been a shooting at an el paso texas, v.a. clinic. details are sketchy. multiple law enforcement officials are telling us that two people were wounded as the facility was in lockdown for hours. the extent of the injuries we don't know. but the shooter then reportedly turned the gun on himself. we don't know whether he successfully killed himself or was injured. we are awaiting a press conference that could begin at any time. as that happens, we'll update you on everything we are able to find out on the developing breaking story. our other breaking news authorities in baltimore are warning police to be on alert of
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possible attacks after a gang member brought a loaded handgun into a police station after two other officers were shot overnight and three men are in custody after that. and the moments leading up to the shooting. the surveillance video shows a gunman robbing a grocery store, but just before he allegedly opened fire injuring these two officers. >> shots fire. [ inaudible ]. a cammaro going northbound. shots fired. >> miguel is "outfront." what are you learning about the shooting and the condition. >> they are dogo kay. one was shot in the arm and the chest and the other in the arm and the back and they are expected to make a full recovery luckily enough. one of the questions is whether or not they were wearing their protective vests because they were off duty when they responded to this thing.
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the chief of police the police commissioner here in new york talked about where exactly the police officers were when they heard about this robbery in progress. >> those officers last evening were ending their tour of duty and were in fact beginning to change out of their clothes when the call came in about a robbery and they immediately, all five ran out of the station and got into a police vehicle and began to canvass the area in the vicinity of the robbery location. >> now the officer got off three shots, one of the individuals was hit in the leg. he later checked into a hospital with some bogus claim. police were able to get on to him very quickly and his claim unraveled. he led them to somebody else who led them to the third person. so three people were picked up and another one in custody. but very important to note this was not a targeted killing. these were offered who were -- officers who were getting off work and heard about a robbery and responded.
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erin. >> miguel thank you so much. and "outfront" tonight, republican senator rand paul. thank you for being with us. police across the country on a state after letter as you hear two more new york city police officers have been shot. after the shooting death of an unarmed black man in ferguson missouri you were the only 2016 hopeful to meet with black leaders in ferguson and allowed to do so by the naacp. and you have criticized the militarization in our law enforcement and you said there is a systemic problem with our law enforcement. are you concerned that statements like that may now be being used by people to justify shooting and killing police. >> there is absolutely no justification for killing our police. my heart goes out to their families. i think that our police do by enlarge an excellent job. they are like the rest of the public. 98%, 99% are doing a great job. they are out every day risking
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their lives. i think there are separate issues. i do think there it an unease in the country. and the aberration of killing cops that is awful and an aberration. but there are peaceful people out there that feel unhappy and feel like that justice is not color blind. martin luther king talked about there being two americas. there are still people who feel like they are poor they are unemployed and that they -- everywhere they turn there is a civil fine for this or for that. in fact i said repeatedly in new york i blame the politicians. so the same way the police are unhappy with de blasio i'm unhappy with de blasio also because he was the one telling the police to get involved with people selling cigarettes that were not taxed properly. >> and let me tell you, because you talk about being unhappy with the politicians and the mayor ever de blasio the
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biggest city in the nation. there is a tremendous amount of tension between him and the police force which is the largest force in this country. officers turned their backs on him when' tended the funerals in december and an unprecedented act, they were asked not to do it and they felt so passionate they did it any way. and this came out of him speaking to his son who is biracial. >> we have had to train him all over this city for decades and how to take special care in any encounter he has with the police officers who are there to protect him. >> and no doubt he spoke from the heart as a father. you are a possible presidential candidate and a leader in america, is the mayor of new york showing proper leadership by talking like that? >> i think he mistakes cause and effect here. i've said over and over again there is a racial outcome to the war on drugs. but i've also said over and over again, i don't think the police are targeting black kids.
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what i say is that the war on drugs has led the overenforcement in certain communities. so far example white kids are using illegal drugs, so are black kids. i don't think the police said let's go arrest black kids but where people live and where crime occurs there is a disproportionate amount of black kids arrested. so i understand the sentiment of people in the african-american community who feel like justice is not color blind. but i don't blame the police officer for saying the police officers are targeting them. i blame the politicians for writing these laws such that we've gone overboard with nonviolent crime. >> and today, senate is the first day of the 114th congress your party, gop, has control in both houses a big moment. john boehner got elected to speaker for the third time. he did have opposition. twice as much as last time. aupd received a vote even though you are not in the house.
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and my question for you, obviously he is an important leader for your party. is he the right choice? >> it is not my job to choose the speaker of the house but you realize by getting one vote i was only 217 votes short of being the speaker of the house. and so that is an interesting wrinkle. but no i think that it is most important what we do now that we're in charge. and i think there are some unhappiness, obviously, but the only way we'll move forward and do something is to actually put bills on the desk of the president. i'm for using the power of the purse. and think most conservatives that were unhappy in the house want to use the power of the purse. we now do have the power of the purse in both the house and the senate so i'm for attaching hundreds if not thousands of rules on how the money can be spend. and what i mean by rules is that is how you try to fix waste and fraud. >> according to our latest cnn poll it is sad. only 28% of americans think
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republicans will run the senate better than democrats. a lot of them think there will be no difference. i just don't like any of you guys. but time magazine has you listed as one of the ten members of congress to watch in 2015. you are in charge. how are you going to prove to the american public and the world, frankly, who have given up on capitol hill in the united states wrong? >> proof will be in the pudding, so what i will say to the american people is watch what we do. if republicans will pass all 12 appropriation bills and try to slow down the accumulation of debt by controlling waste and fraud then the proof will be how can we act and proof over the next year. >> senator, i appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you, erin. and up next fergie standing by her former man, defending him after he was named in allegations of a child sex ring. and unveiled moments ago, a time capsule unveiled by paul
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in a sexual abuse with underage girls as part of a ring. she was vacationing with her daughters when she came to her defense. the york familiar family is a -- family is a tight unit. he is a great man. the best in the world. this is not the first time the friendly exes has been involved in controversy. jean cassar he is is "outfront." >> prince andrew is no stranger to the limelight. from a story book wedding to sara ferguson in 1986 to a scandalous divorce in 1996. >> if you live in that goldfish bowl and you are a public figure they you have to expect somebody to throw a stone and you just have to live with it. >> his past relationship with convicted sex offender epstein
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is surrounding the prince with new legal allegations he engaged in sex with an underage minor set up by epstein, between 1999 and 2002. andrew has not been charged with wrongdoing and the palace has denied the allegations. even sara ferguson coming to his defense, saying he is the greatest man there is. >> i think they cover each other's backs. they've both made grave errors and suffered from severe judgment issues. >> in 1992 their marriage publicly imploded in embarrassing detail. with the tabloids exposing images of furgie having her toe sucked by another man, while topless in southern france. when the duchess of york found herself swimming in debt prince andrew was in the tabloids again. after his ex was filmed allegedly trying to sell access to prince andrew then the
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britain local trade ambassador. the financier was a news of the world reporter. and yet another embarrassment when furgie accepted $20,000 from jeffrey epstein who had been convicted of solicitation of prostitution. once again, my errors have impacted on the man i admire most in the world -- the duke. i would throw myself under a bus for him. >> it is a notable position that he has. he hasn't just embarrassed himself, he's embarrassed his family the monarchy and the country. i could go on. >> a tangled web. >> the fact that epstein is a convicted pedophile, had she taken money from him, and not just prince andrew being his friend. >> she admitted that because she was so in debt. now on a legal front, i have to tell you this it is heating up. allen der sho witz has been named in this motion in federal court that he participated in
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sexual acts. >> in detail. >> in great specific detail. and he countered offering to join the suit and saying i did none of. >> that and furthermore, the alleged victims' attorneys, no, i didn't do it and they didn't investigate to see if it is true. now the attorneys for the accusers have minutes ago filed a defamation against allen der sho witz saying our careers and reputations are at stake because of him. and i have to tell you -- >> so they are standing by the allegations and standing by their client. >> victoria roberts, the accusers attorney one is a former forward judge in the state of utah. and he clerked for major judges in this country and an immention -- immense record of integrity. >> and more to come on it. and this is the incredible story of the day. 220 years ago paul revere had
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the artifacts buried at the massachusetts state house and inside the box, silver and copper coins, unengraved silver plate, newspaper. it took officials 4 to 5 hours to initially loosen the screws. it was a water leak at the state house. sebastian clark, an appraiser on pbs. this makes my skin tingle it's so exciting. imagining the history coming alive. so let's start with what's in it overall. you've got coins. we have a half cent coin one dime three cent oin all dated 1775 and a shilling daylighted 1652. how much is this stuff worth? >> so if these things do come up for sale but not with this story, i mean the story is fantastic. george washington was still the president of this country until 1795. >> paul revere and sam adams touched these coin z because
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they put them in the capsule. >> the 17th century coin is maybe a $5,000 or $6,000 coin. the value increases tenfold. >> tenfold. >> i could only imagine. >> 50,000, $60,000. >> easily. >> paul revere was a silversmith. we know that. there is an engraved silver plate in here. it says i'll read the quote for everybody, the cornerstone of this building when it was found, intended for the use of legislative and executive branch of the commonwealth of massachusetts laid by exlen si samuel adams, by the most wishable paul revere on the 4th day of july 20th anniversary of american independence. we know paul revere was a silversmith. they're not sure he made this piece. he certainly placed it in there. what could it be worth if they could link it that he actually engraefed it? >> based upon examples that paul revere have sold about 5 years
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ago, a set of 5 or 6 teaspoons sold for $6,000 made by paul revere. two years ago, january 2013 sold for $230,000 a teapot at auction. i can only imagine he made or had a hand in making the plate if his name is on the plate. value in the hundreds of thousands of dollars. >> hundreds of thousands of dollars for the plate. they actually placed it in there. something so mag nif acceptability and momentous about that. there's newspapers in there, apparently very well preserved. are those meaningful also? >> again, it's the sum of all parts. we don't know what to say because they don't want to open it until it's in the right environment. >> right, understood. >> it's the entire contents of the box together placed there on the 20th anniversary of the birth of the nation. that's where the value lies. it's fantastic. >> it is. it is fantastic. and just a great moment sometimes, just take stock of the incredible things.
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climb yosemite's el captain without help to the top. this is the first time it's happened. for a day off, napping in a tent hanging off higher than the empire state building. definitely not a safe job for the sleepwalker. jeanne moos has more. >> reporter: don't look down don't look up. you are looking at climbers who have fallen. something called the don wall on the vertical rock formation el captain at yosemite national park. >> yesterday was day eight. >> reporter: it's easy to lose track of time when you're climbing a wall using your hands and feet finding min in thisuscule ledges using hopes not to climb but to catch you when you fall. after several years after planning and training tommy caldwell and kevin jorgson, they do their dreaming on the wall
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each night when they pitch their tents suspended. >> there's this crazy arctic wind storm happening today. >> reporter: there will be more friction between rubber soles and rock during the winter. wonder why kevin is staring at his hands? >> we're taking a rest day today because our skin took a beating. >> reporter: the edges can be razor sharp. they've resorted to tape for protection. tommy said he wakes up twice a night to apply lotion to his hands and forget filing your nails with an emery board. climbers sand their fingertips to keep them smooth. divided into pitches. they've triumphed over pitch 14 the hardest one. >> it gives the fits because you'll feel totally fine and then your foot will unexpectedly pop off. >> reporter: they'll do a lot of falling over the total of 2 to 3 weeks, they estimate the climb will take.
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and what's on the menu up there? >> little breakfast sandwich with cream cheese sandwich and cucumber. >> you're going to eat with those fingers? jeanne moos cnn, new york. >> miraculous, terrifying crazy, all of the above? inspiring? thank you so much for joining us. be sure to dvr "outfront" to watch us anytime. anderson starts now. hey, good evening. thanks for joining us. a short time ago, we got word of an active shooter at a v.a. medical facility in el paso texas. jim sciutto following this. >> reporter: this is the latest i'm told by the pentagon. doctor shot and wounded. we don't know condition at this time. the killer turned the gun on himself and killed hichls. this took place at a v.a. clinic in ft. blisz, west texas, el paso. huge military complex there. took place about 6:00 eastern time. at the time the entire military hospital was o
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