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menu up there? >> little breakfast sandwich with cream cheese sandwich and cucumber. >> you're going to eat with those fingers? jeanne moos cnn, new york. >> miraculous, terrifying crazy, all of the above? inspiring? thank you so much for joining us. be sure to dvr "outfront" to watch us anytime. anderson starts now. hey, good evening. thanks for joining us. a short time ago, we got word of an active shooter at a v.a. medical facility in el paso texas. jim sciutto following this. >> reporter: this is the latest i'm told by the pentagon. doctor shot and wounded. we don't know condition at this time. the killer turned the gun on himself and killed hichls. this took place at a v.a. clinic in ft. blisz, west texas, el paso. huge military complex there. took place about 6:00 eastern time. at the time the entire military hospital was on lockdown as a
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precaution. >> and is the situation officially over? >> reporter: i'm told by the pentagon it's resolved but an abundance of caution, on lockdown until a short time ago but it's believed by law enforcement on the scene as well as the pentagon that the shooting is over now. >> we don't know anything about the identity of the shooter or possible motive. >> reporter: or a motive. the sad fact the doctor was a target. he has been injured and still waiting more word and announcement expected in the next hour or so as to his condition as well. >> obviously, bring our viewers up to date. jim sciutto, thank you very much. the search now back on in the indonesia for 8501. ships back at work on the stormy ocean surface. divers getting ready to face the riskiest conditions imaginable. we learn more about the airbus. more information about
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procedures airline dispatchers did or did not follow on the way. in addition two more passengers recovered. total is 39. a lot to cover with our kyung lah and paula. first, kyung, we'll take a look. >> reporter: the intense search for air asia 8501. 38 ships in the java sea, reality realtime reporting into the command control center. moments after we walk in -- what's happening? >> another two bodies. >> reporter: the plane just spotted two bodies. he won't know for sure until the ship reaches the coordinates and picks them up.
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solitsio is the head of the search and rescue public face in the recovery. the man calling the shots, a lifelong military officer for restraint in completing the mission. >> you want to find these bodies for the families. >> reporter: what's possible becoming more challenging as the search stretches into double digit days. indonesia expanded the search zone further east. officials at the command control center believe many passengers will likely be found on the sea floor still inside the plane. one clue for that theory search teams already found three passengers all from one row still strapped to their seat belts. but others are drifting. a personal nightmare for the man charged with bringing them home. >> you're sleeping here? you're eating here. you have not left here. why?
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>> reporter: the ship radios back. it has the bodies. do you think you'll find all the bodies? >> i'm not sure but i try. >> reporter: two more returning. more than 100 still lost at sea. the plan is to try to find and continue to search for big sections of the plane. the reason for that anderson is because there is a working assumption here from jakarta at the headquarters there may be a number of passengers still inside big sections of the plane. and they're zeroing in on these two images. it's a little hard to make out, you can see that they're brown and in those brown sections there are those light sections. those light sections the
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government here believes that they may be parts of the plane. the emphasis here is on may. they don't know if they're junk garbage, wreckage but they're highly interested. they want to get to those two sections to see if that's the plane. the key, of course anderson not just finding more bodies but also understanding what happened that will be held inside the black boxes. >> kyung lah, thank you very much. we want to focus more on the danger the divers have faced. paula now joins us back on dry land. i know conditions have been rough the past couple of days. you and i talked about this last night and today. were they better today? >> reporter: they were better above the water on tuesday but still below the waves not conducive to diving. we're -- the aerial search
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today. there are currently 99 divers on 15 different ships standing by. they will hopefully go into the water, we understand from the search and rescue agency. once they get more detailed information from the sonars the sonar scanners giving them the information they need about exactly where they should be diving. the hope is at least wednesday they'll physically be able to get divers into the water because they haven't been able to for some days or at least not long. at some point, the divers said they have zero visibility. of course very dangerous conditions for them and certainly they've been praying far breakthrough in the weather. this may be it today. the underwater currents according to the local weather forecast. that's certainly the hope. we went aboard the u.s. sampson as well. showing the u.s. efforts within this search itself. they're working pretty much 24 hours around the clock saying they're here for the indonesians and as long as they need them. anderson? >> you're learning new information about the pingers on
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the black boxes. what is that? >> reporter: that's right. we know at least one of the pingers was manufactured by the same company as the pingers on the mh 370. these, of course the beacons for those so-called black boxes, the flight data recorder the crucial equipment that tells you what happened and will give investigators an idea of what happened on that flight. we also know some good news that the back was changed. the second may have been changed for competitor's model. but that shows that they may have the full 30 days those standard 30 days that the pingers will be sending out that signal to show where exactly they are. of course this is good news for searchers, which shows that they still have about 19 or 20 days left to find those black boxes. >> good news indeed. paul la thank you very much. a lot to make sense of. fortunately, cnn david gallo is
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here. and david soucie author of malaysia flight 370, why it disappeared and only a matter of time before this happens again and cnn aviation correspondent richard quest. let me start with you, david gallo. we saw the sonar images that kyung showed us that may be part of the plane. i know you've taken a look at them. do you make anything of these? >> well i'll have to go with the explanation that they may be part of the plane. there's still something there. when you see the bright against the backyard that's hard reflecting off the bottom but i don't see big pieces. usually when you have something big, you have a shadow behind it. i don't see that nor a lot of definition. the one thing we're missing is a scale. we don't know how larmg the oblts are and it's going to be difficult if they don't have positions on each of those things for divers to find them especially in a given conditions. it's going to be tough. >> the bright spots though that
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could be -- it could be pieces of plane or junk on the bottom of the ocean? >> positively. it could be pieces of the plane. a debris field, if it were. i was thinking they were going to show us one of these quote unquote big pieces, 20 30 40 50 feet long but i don't see anything in there that resembles that. >> and as you say, importantly, there is no scale on these so it's hard to get a sense of just how large an object we're looking at. >> right and you can see if you look carefully, there's these faint bands going from right to left across the images of the darker bands. that's from the sonar bouncing around because probably of the wave absent or current. it's not stable in the water. that degrades the images somewhat too. >> and something like this. the sonar, what takes this? is this an underwater vehicle that takes this? is this taken from a ship? do we know? >> something that looks like a tiny torpedo. they towed behind the ship. i'm guessing that's what that
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is. that's one frequency they're using there. there are available very high quality imaging sonars you would be able to see individual portholes and whatever you want to see but i don't think that's what we're looking at here. >> richard, does it surprise you? here we are a week and a half since the plane went down. no fuselage or black boxes found in relatively shall doe water. >> doesn't surprise me. i was looking at paula hancocks' report at the ship. you've only got to look out and see the vastness of the area. >> the conditions. >> the conditions, the vastness of the area. they are in the right area. we know that. it is just a matter of with the technology that we're using today, in terms of tracking the aircraft we can discuss whether they should have more or should have different types, but with what they were using, this is the only way they're going to find it. slow and very painfully so. >> david soucie at least one of the pingers on the black boxes had just gotten new batteries. that is obviously, good news.
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>> that's very good news but the better news is the fact that the other pinger was replaced with a competing model. if that was manufactured this year it would have a 90 day battery in it because tso 21 has changed o changed to make 90 days. we may have a reprieve in and a message now from tony fernandez to confirm that or not. >> david gallo, one official thought perhaps the black boxes could be buried by mud. just how much would that or could that mufl the sound of pings, could it make it so they couldn't be heard at all? >> it could potentially mufl the sound. but i don't think enough to take away too much from the range, one or two miles. just from what i know so i don't think very much. >> richard, it was interesting that kyung was in the control room when a plane spotted two other passenger's bodies.
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they had to get a ship out to verify. i guess they'll be able to sort of triangulate based on currents how far people have gone. >> right, the phrase is reverse drift. they will know with great detail the way the current was moving at different levels. the surface, the mid, and the lower levels. they'll be able to work out how far. but we see so much debris the seat the bodies the portholes, the part of the window section we saw. we see so much wreckage in a particular area that now they can do this modelling to quite a very sharp level of accuracy. that doesn't mean it's going to be -- it takes you into the hay stack. it doesn't take you right to the point of the hay stack where the needle is. >> and david soucie several metal objects have been detected might be part of the plane. if divers can't get down there, can sonar give a full enough picture to determine whether in
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fact they're from the plane? david gallo was talking about specific sonar but it's not clear that stuff is on site. >> right. and as david had mentioned, there's different frequencies and the higher frequencies and lower frequencies have range. the next step i would suggest would be to put in the autonomous underwater vehicles and get down to look at that. even if the divers can't see, the visibility is low, the sonar that's equipped on those vehicles can see through that and hopefully get some kind of a picture, as dave said a portal or something that would look like an aircraft and know that it was or was not part of this accident. >> david soucie we also heard in kyung's report that investigators believe a large number of passengers may still be in the aircraft even in their seats and they found some who were still in their seats. is it likely this aircraft broke up before it entered the water? broke up in air? or likely it was the impact into the water that made it break up?
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>> i think it's too early to determine that anderson without having -- >> so a thunderstorm a weather event can break an airplane apart? >> it's not the weather event necessarily that does it. it's the reaction to and how you react yourself to that whether or not you dive and then pull up. the aircraft on its own flying through a thunderstorm i find it highly unlikely it would have broken up in the air from that but it's the response of the airplane pilot and the information he's receiving, whether he interprets that information properly or not and whether it's getting to him properly or not and the reaction made is really what can cause an aircraft to come apart, but not the weather storm itself. >> richard? >> because to go off of what david is saying you have the event which is the weather. you have the reaction whatever that might be from the pilots. but if the plane then goes out of control, if they lose the aircraft then the stresses and
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the forms on the airframe that's what breaks the plane up. >> terrifying thought, richard quest, david gallo, david sau see. thank you, set your dvr to watch "ac360" anytime you like. why some walk away from crashes that often kill other adults. later, you'll see what is in this box. a remarkable story that's not been seen since 1855. it was opened today of the man who opened it ahead tonight on the program.
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small town of nashville, illinois. people struggling to come to grips with the plane crash that took the life of marty and kimberly guttsler. a memorial. 7-year-old sailor survived the crash that killed her parents, a long walk through cold dark woods to safety. now though and some extent for the rest of her life, facing a tougher journey. georges hallo reports tonight. >> reporter: the plane was supposed to land here at the mt. vernon airport at 622 p.m. on friday night. that plane with martie, kimberly kimberly piper, sailor gusler with sierra wilder neverlanded here. >> didn't see anything abnormal with what was going on. >> reporter: the airport manager learned about the crash from a tv station. he considered 7-year-old sailor's survival a miracle.
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>> that was the lord taking her hand and leading her to safety. that was three quarters of a mile through horrible territory and at night in the rain with little clothing and it's cold i mean how else do you explain that? >> reporter: as this community prepares to bury one of its own families the grief that many feel in nashville, illinois is only surpassed by an even greater sense of responsibility to take care of sailor. marty gusler's pastor said she's in the good care of extended family. >> when sailor is ready and her family is ready to reintroduce her to the community, i know our community, being as warm and loving and inviting is going to welcome her back into loving arms. i know -- i'm sure her teachers at the grade school and her friends and friends over there are ready to have her back. >> when i think of sailor i
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think of piper, they were always together. and that's a very hard reality to accept but that is something that we are going to have to prepare for and, again, we will rally around sailor. >> reporter: the superintendent of the school that sailor and piper gutsler attended michael brink knows the road ahead is challenging with how different sailor's life will be. but after what she went through, brink remains hopeful. >> when you really step back and take a look i think that you have to believe that there's a greater purpose for sailor that she's going to go on to do great things and affect people in a very positive way. >> and george joins us tonight. what's the latest on sailor her condition? >> reporter: anderson we understand that sailor is in the care of family in this area and their only job right now, according to the spokesperson is to protect her. and over the next several days that will be a very difficult job for them obviously with
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funeral services ahead for sierra wilder set for tom and sailor's mother father and sister. anderson those funeral sfrss are set for friday. >> so hard to imagine. george thank you very much. the question that came up last night. namely why so many younger kids survive kids that are deadly for adults for? >> it's hard to say why sailor survived while her family did not. where she sat, what she may have been doing at the time are critical factors but experts say it's possible her age may have something to do with it. >> for her, i think the way her bones are growing a little more pliable, may have made a difference. >> reporter: dr. james bed said a well known pediatric surgeon who says that in general, children can withstand physical trauma better than adults. >> any trauma basically, children have a better chance of
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surviving? >> i think it's quite frankly across the board. we see children who fall great heights, struck by vehicles at fairly high speed, suffer traumatic injuries that for you and i would be much more serious. >> reporter: part of it he said children's organs including the heart and lungs. they can move more than normal without being injured. >> which pretty much is a clean slate in a child. >> reporter: little sailor follows other examples of children being the only survivors of plane crashes. >> i remember feeling angry and survivor's guilt. >> reporter: some of them featured in the cnn documentary sole survivor. >> why didn't my brother survive? why didn't anybody? why me? >> reporter: cecelia was 4 years old when she survived the crash of 255. the phoenix bound went down in august of 1987 moments after taking off from detroit. killing 154 people on board.
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>> started falling down from the sky. the pilot told us we were going to crash. >> reporter: george was 17 when he became the sole survivor of a 1985 crash in reno that killed his father and 69 others. >> translator: i remember the plane started to descend and they told us to fasten our seat belts because we were crashing. >> reporter: another example of a survivor. 12 years old at the time of a yemeni airplane that crashed into the indian ocean in 2009 killing 152 on board and in addition to age, where a person sits on a plane may improve chances of survival. by popular mechanics, a study found sitting toward the rear of the plane increases odds of surviving a crash. researchers looked at every commercial jet crash since 1971. in 11 of 20 crashes studied passengers sitting at the back of the plane did better. but dr. betts practicing in oakland for more than 3 decades said sometimes there are no answers and that may apply to
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sailor. >> i think that for whatever she was the wup in the family that was chosen to carry the family on where pretty much everybody else in the family didn't survive. >> reporter: dan sai mon, cnn, san francisco. >> you can find more on the new cnn.com. tonight, new details about new york city police officers that were shot last night while trying to stop a robbery. their shift was over but didn't think twice when they got the call. prince andrew got a call that's showing past troubles pael in comparison. details on that ahead.
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the new year two more police officers shot to want. three suspects in custody. surveillance video provided crucial clues in the hunt for them. the officers were wounded while responding the a robbery late last night in the bronx. they put themselves in the line of fire even though they were coming off their shift. they didn't hesitate. they did their job showing extraordinary dedication and professionalism. miguel marquez brings us up to date. >> shots fired, shots fired at once. >> reporter: you could hear the adrenaline as the officer tells the dispatcher where the suspects are headed. >> shots fired, 187 tiebout, 187 tiebout. white chevy camaro going northbound. >> reporter: they are just getting off shift when the call comes in for a robbery in progress at a nearby grocery store. >> those officers last evening were ending duty in fact beginning to change out of their
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clothes when the call came in about a robbery and they immediately, all five ran out of the station. >> reporter: shortly after the robbery, the suspects were spotted near this shop. one of the suspects could be seen in this surveillance video. moments later he turns. pulls out a 44 caliber revolver and fires on the officers. you can see the plume of smoke from the barrel. >> he fires three rounds in the 44 caliber magnum very large caliber handgun and we believe he fire after that because no more in the gun. >> 38 eliro in the chest and arm. in their car, drived a caa marrow and dumped blocks away. this revolver was found nearby. after a city wide manhunt, the nypd arrest two suspects in the shooting a third person in custody. this as the police department here is still reeling from the
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assassination of two of its own, detectives rafael ramos and wenjian liu. >> he walked a path of courage. >> reporter: coming amidst mounting tensions between the police and new york city mayor bill de blasio at the funerals of liu, a large number of officers turned their backs on the mayor saying the mayor has not been supportive of the nypd. >> they were disrespectful to the families who had lost their loved one. and i can't understand why anyone would do such a thing in a context like that. >> reporter: but the protest may potentially go back beyond back turning. statistics show a sharp decrease in police activity the so-called blue flu, a work slowdown by many within the force. total arrests down 56% in the last week. tickets and criminal summons down more than 90% from the previous year. >> at this time i'd not use the term slowdown if in fact we
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feel myself and the leadership team that that's what we're dealing w we'll call it that and we'll deal with it accordingly. >> miguel marquez joins us now. do we know the conditions of the officer right now? >> stable condition for both. they are through surgery, through the worst of it. one of the officers may be released from the hospital early as tomorrow anderson? >> the commissioner is not using the word slowdown what looks like a slowdown by the nypd. not just an arrest and summons, but an uptick in murder and robberies. >> reporter: nypd pushing back hard saying the numbers are trending down for the first week of the year but remains a controversy. nypd looking at those numbers very very closely also looking at all of the statistics across the board to figure out if there is a real slowdown going on. if there is they say, they will take swift and serious action to stop it. anderson? >> miglioranzi gel thank you very much. in albuquerque new mexico a
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large manhunt there. the officer's body camera captured the entire incident. showed up closed why traffic stops are one of the most dangerous aspects o of policing. the suspect opens fire without warning. the officer is however, expected to recover. you see the officer approaching the vehicle and then the suspect starts firing. joining me now, former nypd police officer dan bongino and former secret service agent, cnn political commentator erroll louis. no doubt this is a slowdown. >> no question about it. you can't have 4,000 summons issued in a week and the same period 347. those 90% drops, that tells you there's something going on. there's also reporters, you hear these things. there's talk within the precincts of somebody gets a rookie for example, the new summons and one of the delegates for the community said you're not going to be needing that
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anytime soon. coordinated. >> put the stats up again on the screen. i mean the total down 55.9%, parking summons down 92%. >> the traffic i don't know if that's such a threat to public safety but you're right, one of the major points of revenue. they wanted to use that to get city hall's attention but this kind of thing, anderson, seriously backfires. by law, they cannot strike. the police cannot strike. they are also the end of the day, paramilitary organization. they're supposed to be following orders. if commissioner made clear if you listen closely that they will go down to the sector they will go down to individual officers and if they find that people are malingering or sort of couping or hanging out, not doing their job. serious consequences can follow.
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>> dan, former nypd. you speak to a lot of police officers. a, do you believe this is a slowdown and b, why? >> they feel like they don't have a voice. it's the reason a lot turn their back on mayor de blasio. anderson i don't know if a lot of your viewers understand how deeply the police department feels like they've been wounded here. they lost two of their own who were assassinated in broad daylight and the mayors never really -- forget about apologizing. acknowledged the role in the environment that may have led to this and they feel really abused and at this point, the only way of speaking out is by a slowdown or whatever we want to call it. >> supporters of the mayor do not believe he played any role or did anything that led to these officers being assassinated but that's what you're hearing from people in
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the police department, we certainly heard that from the head of the police union that the mayor and others have blood on their hands. >> yeah. i think it was the mayor's use of broad strokes against the police department rather than speaking in isolated terms and proactive terms, things they can do instead of coming out and saying we're going to implement new training and look at the hypocriminalization, the loosy cigarettes of course that led to the garner incident. that's not what he said. he talked about the lecture with his son that they take quote, special measures. as if every cop was somehow targeting his son for a reason that's just not true. that's not an institutional problem. it's an isolated problem within policing. >> erroll you're a lifelong new yorker and report from the city. how do you see this ending? there's a police union contract up for negotiation. they've been working without a new contract under the bloomberg administration so that's
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clearly playing a part in this as is the police union president. that's coming up and that's playing into this. >> that's right. this is sort of a package deal. i mean because very much the tone and the conversation going all the way back to the 2013 elections that brought bill de blasio into office yeah there was friction unpleasant/bad feelings. there are foreign measures debated by the city council that will happen as soon as this week. there's going to be a process that sort of really works these things through. what needs to happen people have to step back from the brink. >> you say everybody has a role the protesters the police the mayor. >> absolutely. the mayor. and the general public. the general public i think is losing some patience. when we see things like police activity is down and there's some sort of inaction going on people are really concerned about that because we can't have this thing spill out into real lives. it's one thing if politicians want to yell at each other and
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another thing if we endanger public safety. >> erroll lutz great to have you on and dan bongino, always great to have you on. allegations, denying that prince andrew does have ties. and named in the court documents. we look at that ahead. if you're taking multiple medications does your mouth often feel dry? a dry mouth can be a side effect of many medications. but it can also lead to tooth decay and bad breath. that's why there's biotene available as an oral rinse toothpaste, spray or gel. biotene can provide soothing relief and it helps keep your mouth healthy too. remember, while your medication is doing you good, a dry mouth isn't. biotene, for people who suffer from a dry mouth.
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a quick update on the other headlines that we're following. jean casarez joining us. >> reporter: hundreds including bill clinton attended funeral of mario cuomo who led state from 1983 to 1984. his son, andrew the current governor delivered an emotional eulogy. calling his father a hero who cared more about being a force for good and above all else doing the right thing. mario cuomo was 82. and former virginia governor bob mcdonald will spend two years in prison for his conviction on felony public corruption charges. mcdonald must report to prison on february 9th just days before his wife will be sentenced for her conviction on similar charges. it was brutally cold weather and snow. it's gripping much of the country, east of the rockies, making for tough travel conditions. and it's only going to get
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worse. especially in minneapolis where schools are closed for tomorrow since it could feel like 35 degrees below zero. but some love in the chilly weather. that is, you're looking at panda cub bobo. joining first role in the snow with the mom at the national zoo in washington. the 16 month old sure had fun. so anderson so much today. i mean, the beginning day of congress for 2015 and bobo rolled in the snow in washington. >> one thing to the other. buckingham palace denying that prince andrew made a sex slave loaning her out to the rich and famous. more on prince andrew's past and how he knew epstein. max, what do we know about this guy and their relationship? >> well they were definitely friends. so many pictures of them taken over periods of time. we knew they spent a lot of time together. epstein, very well connected of
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course. and one of the most controversial photographs that we've seen is really after epstein left prison after being convicted of sexual offenses. prince andrew walking with him through the park in new york and that was highly controversial. very damaging for him and we're just going to look back now at the complicated relationship between the two, which actually has become his undoing in many ways prince andrew. >> reporter: prince andrew the duke of york. 54 years old and fifth in line to the throne. he's queen elizabeth's second son and often represents her at official engagements. he was the dashing military helicopter pilot who fought in the falk lands war. but his personal life has long been tabloid foder. starting with his marriage o the sarah ferguson in 1986. the couple with a toast of high
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society had two daughters but divorced after ten years. pictures had appeared of ferguson's affair with her financial advisor. the prince went on to travel the world as a british trade ambassador paid for by the government and earning him the nickname air miles andy. in an interview with sky news in 2010 andrew described his jet setting lifestyle. >> it's a fact oof life. in order to do what i do for the u.k. and u.k. business i have to travel. that's it. it's one of those unfortunate, as it were tags that one has to put up with. >> reporter: on the way, he formed controversial connections with the likes of gaddafi, son of the libyan dictator and ai
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bijan. but it was with jeffrey epstein that led to his resignation as trading boy. when epstein was just released from prison andrew announced the friendship had been a mistake and tried to move on from it but now the association has come back to haunt him. virginia roberts filed legal papers claim to been used as an underage sex slave by epstein and forced to have sex with prince andrew on several occasions between 1999 and 2002. in london new york and at an or ji at epstein's home on the u.s. virgin islands. british newspapers including the daily mail published this picture of roberts with the prince when she was just 17 in 2001. they may have been photographed together but buckingham palace emphatically denies that prince andrew had any form of sexual relationship with virginia roberts. any allegations made by her are
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false, they say, and without any foundation. andrew was on holiday in switzerland with his family and ex-wife when the sex allegations emerged over the weekend. he's now back in the u.k. and staying out of public sight. the palace said he has no plans to make a comment himself on the allegations. >> and the famed attorney for filing he's challenging the court asking them to remove his name from the record. is there any indication that prince andrew might do something similar? >> this is really going in and on the counteroffensive on every single salacious detail this lady has come up with. for example, saying she's a serial liar. out on a smear campaign. for prince andrew and buckingham palace to do, it's not their form because they know more salacious details will come out in court which they don't necessarily want the world to hear but we have seen the palace moving in the communications
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strategy in a way we haven't seen before. multiple statements coming out. not through court, it's coming through statements. but it's a big change in policy. they've been much more open on this one. >> max foster thank you very much. continue to follow this. ahead, a brass box first buried centuries ago is opened. what did samuel adams and paul revere want us to find?
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with the capsule in boston where it was open. malcolm, it was incredible to imagine this was sitting there all this time. i know you x-rayed the box beforehand. you had an idea what might be in it. did you have an idea it would be like the opening of al capone's vault on tv when really there was nothing in there? >> in truth, we knew a little bit of what was in the box. it was a moment of extraordinary excitement this brass container just the size of a cigar box was slowly opened with surgical precision. and you suddenly found yourself in the presence of history. >> what stands out to you as most significant of the contents? >> well the feeling that hands put the objects together. they folded the newspapers they tried to protect the coins. at the bottom of the box was a wonderful silver plate, probably made by paul revere and engraved by him.
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that was the treasure the end of almost an hour's searching through the things in the box. >> will people be able to see these items at some point? >> certainly. the situation is they're in varied degrees of condition. they'll need conservation in the maps but they will be going on view at the museum sometime in the future which is a very exciting prospect for us. >> i know you've been director of the museum for years. american citizenship, obviously you have a british accent. do you think your ancestors or maybe looking down with the same sort of celebratory feeling or do you think they're shocked for the capsule of the american revolution? >> well obviously, i'm a little torn as you can imagine. but, you know, history solves a lot of things and as you look at america today, it's great institutions. so much of them have origins in england and english traditions. i feel pretty proud. >> it's just a remarkable find.
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did you -- were you nervous -- i mean do you have to be careful in sort of the opening of the box, exposing these things to air? >> that's absolutely the case and what was critical was what we were going to find and could we actually go through the whole box or would things prove too fragile to take out this evening? so it was like brain surgery with history looking down on us. >> history indeed. malcolm rodgers, extraordinary. thank you so much. coming up something to make you smile at the end of the day. the ridiculist is next. ♪ ♪ ♪
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play dough. a cake stand, plates, different colors of play dough and fun stuff. why, do you ask, we would be be talking about this on the ridiculist? some people were outraged when they saw a particular part of the play dough set called tex truding toogle used to make designs. we have the extruding tool. we're going to only show it once so pay attention. there it is. that's the extruding tool. people started writing things online on how thd ruined christmas. let's say the company was forced to respond and we'll get to that in a moment. let's look at reaction. our affiliate in tulsa got from consumers. >> oh. well -- i guess a kid wouldn't know. you know i mean it could be
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considered considered -- >> it's pretty phallic. that's a pretty phallic cake decorating piece. >> haz bro, the maker of play dough responded to the controversy and hard to believe, not one single bro at hazbro saw a problem with this marketing. but here's what they say now. we have heard some consumer feedback about the extruder tool in the playdoh cake mountain play set and are in the process of updating future playdoh sets in the future with a different tool. a different tool seems extreme to me. people could put a cover to hide the features they find offensive. something maybe out of latex, i don't know. you like that didn't you? wow. i got a reaction from the crew. okay i'm not a toy designer.
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i'll leave it to the experts on the ridiculist. that does it for us. we'll see you again at 11:00 p.m. eastern for another edition of 360. cnn special report dunward spiral aaron hernandez story starts now. hands and whatever i want my life to be it's up to me to make it up that way. >> the question now, what sort of life did the expatriot make for him? >> he wanted to be the best. >> but he's accused of the worst. >> why would a football player
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