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terror in paris. gunmen attack a french magazine. a dozen people massacred. hear what u.s. and french authorities knew about the
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suspects beforehand. plus the people say the pen will not be silenced. >> we believe of freedom of expression and freedom of press and freedom of thought. >> thousands of people are taking a stand against terrorism. then the controversy. >> make everyone happy. how cartoonists became a target for terrorists. hello, everyone. i would like to welcome our viewers in the united states and of course all around the world. thanks for joining us. a nationwide manhunt is underway in france this morning for the gunmen who opened fire inside the offices of a french magazine killing 12 people and wounding 11 others. police have released pictures of
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two brothers who they say are the prime suspects. the search has focused on the city of reims about 90 minutes outside of paris. the french news agency afp reports an 18-year-old suspect there has surrendered. huge crowds have held vigils in paris and cities across europe and the u.s. the french president has declared today a national day of mourning. one of the suspects in wegs's attack was known to police in france and in the united states. cherif kouachi has a long time record for converting people to go to iraq. as this man continues for these two suspects, what more do we know about them and what are we now learning about the teenager who reportedly surrendered to
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police? >> reporter: we're hearing conflicting reports but i think we have a pretty good idea now. the two major suspects 32 and 34 years old, brothers the younger one of the two was pretty well known to police. he was as you mentioned, sentenced to three years in prison back in 2008. he had already served about half that so he was released right after the sentencing. he was stegsed to prison for taking part in a criminal conspiracy to organize young people torborg send them off to iraq and chechnya to fight amongst terrorists there. so he was known to police. the older brother apparently was known to police but only very vaguely. he had served some time. not served some time but was picked up once or twice for small crimes and misdemeanors. the younger of the three suspects that we heard about last night turned himself in to police and apparently said that he was in class at the time and
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according to some of the, his classmates who have been tweeting about it said in fact he was in class. they backed up his alibi. it is not clear why police named him and then he turned himself in. whether or not there was some suspicion that he had been involved. one of the things we heard this morning and again, this is press reports that haven't been verified by police. according to the press reports this morning, that the reason the police got on to the trail of these two older brothers is that they were they left their i.d. card behind in the getaway car. and as a consequence, the police were able to make a connection pretty rapidly with the two brothers and that's why the manhunt is going on today. these pictures that we just showed in fact will be broadcast all over france. are being broadcast
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witnesses say the gunmen asked for people by name and then started shooting. several people managed to record video of the attackers as they fled the building. here's that part of the story. charlie
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>> they did change car after the attack. the three of them apparently he is came very quietly. >> by night fall across france people expressed their grief in solidarity silently holding this sign. i am charlie. >> we will take a very short break. next here on cnn, after the paris terror attack an outpouring of support from all around the world. you see this right? it's 80% confidence and 64% knee brace. that's more...
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. at noon paris time a little less than four hours from now, france will observe a minute of silence for the victims of wednesday's terror attack.
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gunmen killed 12 people and wounded 11 in the officers at charlie hebdo magazine. it is reported that one of the suspects left the i.d. at the scene. another suspect reportedly turned himself into police. world leaders were emphatic in their condemnation of this attack. they were united in insisting that freedom of speech must be protected. >> france is one of our oldest allies our strongest allies they have been with us every moment from 9/11 on in dealing with some of the terrorist organizations around the world. to see the cowardly evil attacks that took place today reinforces once again why it is so
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important for us to stand in solidarity just as they stand in solidarity with us. >> while details are unclear, i know this house and this country stands united with the french people in our opposition to all forms of terrorism and we stand squarely for free speech and democracy. and these people will never be able to take us off those values. >> i extend my deepest condolences to the families and my best wishes to all those injured. we stand with the government and people of france. this horrific attack is meant to divide. we must not fall into that trap. >> world reaction there. french president hollande will hole a crisis meeting with his government this hour. he has declared thursday a national day of mourning for those killed in the attack. in his address wednesday, he said the attack was on the entire republic of france.
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and that the country will move forward as one. >> freedom will always be stronger than barbarity. france has always fought against enemies when she was able to block and unite with these values unity, uniting together with all forces all forms. that is what our response has been. we must unite against this. and we will win. because we have all the capacity to believe in our destiny. >> i want to bring in sophie now, paris bureau chief and france' correspondent via skype. thank you so much for talking with us. i want to start with of course your reaction to these tragic circumstances because you've lived, you've work in paris for many years now. what was your initial reaction to this deadly shooting? >> i don't think it is any different from anybody else.
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it is an extraordinary sense of shock. and the tragedy of the situation, you know these were very brave journalists, as colleagues in a way, we share the same profession even if they're in a satirical newspaper. they have a way of looking at the world. they are brave people and they have not been cowed by a previous attack a few years ago on their premises in paris. so i think one has to think of them and their families and our profession in general. one which is a profession that puts itself at risk. and this sort of tragedy really brings that home. >> in the aftermath of these killings thousands of people have rallied in solidarity for freedom of expression. and there appears to be a concerted effort not to turn on muslims living in the country. talk to us about that and whether that is likely to sustain in the days ahead. >> reporter: it's very interesting, this spontaneous outburst of emotional solidarity
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with charlie hebdo, the newspaper, but in general the french people. the french have been very touched by the messages and the vigils that have been taking place in cities around the world. shared on social networks and the french have been very touched by that and rightly so. it seems to have brought people together in a quite surprising way. and france is a country which has had in the past moments of quite extreme tension, religious tension, ethnic tension, writing going way back. and it is interesting that that is not at all the move now. there is a real sense of national unity, both on the physical level, they've been very careful not to make any camden out of this. they've been all of them extremely responsible in their reactions but also from the point of view of the french people in general. there has been a very sort of, i think, you know mature in a way, ability to distinguish between muslims who make up part
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of the french population the biggest muslim population in europe and those who engage in this terrorism which is an extreme and very, very, very small minority. >> and would you expect to see the work of charlie hebdo to continue in the aftermath of this attack and not be silenced by this deadly shooting? >> i think that the spirit is there to continue. the practical side is a completely different matter. they've lost their most senior cartoonists, they've lost their editor. he incidentally was under police protection which is one of the tragedies of this whole situation. the spirit is there and the defiance will live on. if they can manage practically to continue they will continue. they aren't in a mood to be cowed and certainly not to give into terrorism. >> thank you so much for joining us and talking under these very tragic circumstances. we do appreciate it. as we mentioned a moment ago, the streets of paris have been
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filled with demonstrators channelling in support of the victims of wednesday's deadly attack. they spoke to cnn about their message and we will have that for you just ahead. stay with us. discover card. hey! so i'm looking at my bill and my fico® credit score's on here. we give you your fico® score each month for free! awesomesauce! wow! the only person i know that says that is...lisa? julie?! at discover, we treat you like you'd treat you. get the it card and see your fico® credit score.
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. welcome back every one. it is 8:22 in the morning in paris right now. i want to check the latest on that terror attack in paris that left 12 people dead. police have released pictures of the two suspects brothers cherif and said kouachi. they said they found i.d. of theirs. wednesday's shootings were followed by huge demonstrations. our report he spoke with some of those voicing support for the slain journalists. >> reporter: thousands of people have come here to central paris to protest against the killing of the journalists and caricaturists from the magazine charlie hebdo. what this is in he is enls, a demonstration for freedom of the press, freedom of speech and liberty. those are the words we keep
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hearing. at the same time many people are channelling a lot of slogans but at the same time people are silent and simply holding pens in the air to show that the pen will not be silenced by violence. nevertheless many people we've spoken to here say they're shocked by the events and they compare them to the worst terror attacks in history. >> the same mood as 9/11. of course it is nothing to be compared but it is the same symbol to be struck in the heart of our life and our democracy and of liberty and freedom. >> the liberty of press, the liberty of the liberty. it is really important. so i thought it was important to, just to go out and be there. >> reporter: there is a very clear message coming from this protest. that all these people say all of
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us are charlie hebdo, the entire nation stands behind the satirical magazine. at the same time it is a very respectful protest. we saw a sea of candles to spell out this message. we are all charlie or i am charlie. one of the really interesting things about this protest is that while it is very loud very emotional. at the same time there is no anti-islamic or anti-muslim sentiment. people say they realize this was not done in the name of islam but these are simply terrorists. >> the reason you came i came. not a question of religion. it is a question of saying no. no to violence. no to some kind of religious, to say no no no. >> reporter: freedom of expression is what these people are saying them say these values will remain strong. of course they also realize that these values are indeed very
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much in danger. that radical parties from both sides, from the right wing here in france but also from the radical islamic side will use these events for their purposes. that's one of the reasons they came out to make their statement at the civil society in france will not be brought down by what happened here on this day. cnn, paris. >> we want to take a closer look at the foreign policy challenges posed by islamic extremism. and for that we are joined in paris, he is an international diplomatic consultant. thank you for talking with us. i want to start with the impact you think this deadly attack has had on france and its people. >> reporter: it's very clear the french have been very aware of the threat concerning terrorism in our countries. i want to remind you that about five to six days ago, the prime minister said very openly
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france has never been so much threatened by terrorism. so it was a kind of hint at the possibilities that one of these days, we would be struck by terrorist actions. it happened. after it happened in australia in canada in belgium, all countries involved in this international coalition against the islamic state, against al qaeda, and here we knew that we had to pay the price for it one of these days. the only problem is that the french are taking into consideration and very aware of the fact that we are in a new type of war. it is not that al qaeda with explosives tnt, cars it is lonely wolves as we call them being acting trading syria and iraq as it is the case of one of the two brothers you mentioned, cherif kouachi. and it is very difficult.
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the big question we are wondering upon right now. the french say we have been too. lax for the last few years and we pay the price for it. whoever has been governing this circus left wing government or right wing government. people wake up and say what about security? how are we going to fight against this new type of war? this new type of acting terrorist? it is very difficult with the social networks how many can you control everything? and this is what we are facing today, a new challenge. and at the same time a lot of people think that in a few weeks ahead, what is going the extreme right, who has been always so much fighting against the muslim fundamentalist talking to the people about that. are they going to serve on this new threat for political reasons. >> i wanted to ask you that question. we know that president hollande is meeting this hour to discuss the terror attack how many do you think the french government plans to confront the problem of
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islamic extremism. and given that so many young french men, particularly, travel from france to fight with extreme militant groups. >> you're right. it is a brand new challenge. we know that officially the secretary of the interior we have 1232 young jihadists who have been coming and going to iraq to syria, who have been trained by islamic state or al qaeda. how can you just track them on the internet? it is very difficult. we need everybody is aware of the fact we need to tighten security and survey of all these people through the different service of security throughout europe throughout the world. it is going to be very difficult. any time we can have this other kind of terrorist act as the one we had yesterday, and what can
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we do? people feel very powerless. this is the question. we are all united in this country and ready to fight. we don't want freedom of expression freedom of the press to be killed to be beheaded if i can use this word. >> and that appears to be the overriding sentiment, doesn't it? in france and beyond the borders. thank you for joining us from paris. we do appreciate it. many thanks. a very short break now but the shock and sadness is really stretching all around the world. coming up we'll have reaction from the middle east on the worst terror attack in france in decades.
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deadly attack on the french satirical charlie hebdo. cnn affiliate reports one of the suspects in the attacks cher ef-kouachi left an i.d. at the scene. an intense manhunt is underway for cherif and his brother said. a third suspect turned himself in to police. the french president is set to start a crisis meeting with officials any moment. and he has declared a national day of mourning today with a moment of silence at noon.
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that of course to remember the 12 people killed in wednesday's attack. it is about 8:30 there now in paris. demonstrators across the globe have taken to the streets with candles and signs. even pens in support. in london about 700 people gathered at trafalgar square. a small groom gather in the boston with a #not afraid. protesters showed support in really the, madrid berlin and rio among many other cities. becky anderson is live in abu dhabi and she is joining us now monitoring reaction. what are you hearing? what is being said from there? >> reporter: regional leaders in this part of the world are very quick in the early hours of the reports of this attack very quick to condemn the events in paris. the egyptians early on
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suggesting the foreign minister condemning in the strongest terms the terror incidents. the tunisians across north africa we got reaction as well. the tunisians again calling this outrage by the cowardly and criminal act, taunting journalists and staff of charlie hebdo, we condemn these attacks. cairo, tunisia, across this region including in the uae. a consistent reaction overall to what happened in france. remember that many governments in the middle east including here in the uae taking a leading role in the fight against isis. and other groups promote a radical brand of islam. what we are also seeing as the mourning progresses here across the region is a sense of defiance from muslims.
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not just in this region but across the world. let me show you a couple of cartoons here. this is from a guy with a twitter hash tag. he is a qatar based sudanese. and it said sad cartoon. i'm a muslim from a muslim #cartoonist. hsht charlie hebdo. you will see on the left. you're with the terrorists. in the middle simply the depiction of one man, i'm just a muslim. from a brazilian cartoonist who covers middle eastern affairs. #charlie hebdo has oopt victim. and you can see here the depiction of the gunmen shooting into the charlie hebdo and the
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shots on the building and what is a depiction of a mosque behind it. it is an interesting situation here. shock, dismay outright anger by many people you speak to. as i say, you have to remember that for many many months now, the uae, for example, taking a lead in this fight against the rise of political islam here. joining the coalition back in august the fight against isis across iraq and syria. so no real surprise that we got the reaction that we did across this region. but as i say, the hours continue. the sense of definls for many muslims who say they simply don't want to be charged with a brush as a result of what happened in paris. >> becky anderson with those comments and that reaction from across the middle east.
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all appearing to be certainly on the same page. condemning these attacks. enough is enough. all right. many thanks to you. i want to bring out these live pictures. this is the palace in paris. that's where francois hollande is preparing to meeting with the minister, the cabinet ministers there next hour will talk with the former president to show that the country, france is united in the aftermath of this terror attack. this deadly shooting in paris that took the lives of 12 people. we know at this point a number of people have arrived there already. and we'll monitoring that situation at the palace in paris. a u.s. official says one of the attackers was known to u.s. law enforcement. the cold calculated movements helped fuel speculation over who might have trained them.
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barbara starr has the details. >> reporter: the attackers shockingly embrarsingly carry out multiple target assassinations in midday paris. calmly killing again and again. french now foid three suspects. one age 18 and the others 32 and 33 are brothers. the details chilling. >> people were shooting them killing them. >> u.s. intelligence analysts scanning every frame of the video have been struck by how organized the men were. >> someone knew where to pinpoint the building. someone know where to go inside the building. they knew when to be this. the four were targeted. i think the other people were collateral damage next to them. >> reporter: a key question.
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were the men self-radicalized or were some men behind the attack? >> i think someone went out and hired these folks. they're professionals. that's a game changer. >> who wanted these satirists dead. the magazine had already called for killing the editorial director. he was among the dead. the overall pattern doesn't match what they've seen before. isis and syria and iraq has may notally focused on the fighting there, though in may, a lone gunman with ties to isis opened fire at the jewish museum in brussels killing three. he quickly fled but was caught in france. underscoring the worry attackers can move quickly in europe. if isis inspired these attackers, it will come as a
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surprise. >> the key indicators are number one, isis has said don't cover your face. number two, all of the terrorists in this event are wearing uniforms. number three, it appears they've been training for a much longer time than what you might suspect. >> because this attack appears to have been so well planned, not a random lone wolf attack there is a good deal of concern out there that there could be other attackers and other plans in the works. barbara starr, cnn, the penn. >> this brazen attack raises unsettling questions about just how to effectively battle terrorism. and for more on strategies john joins us now from london. he is a terrorism expert with the asia pacific foundation. thank you for talking with us. we appear to be seeing more of these types of attacks. the lone wolf attack. it is difficult to actually
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attach them to any particular group. but seemingly, they have been inspired by isis. programs it is difficult to know but how do nations stop attacks on these soft targets? is that even possible? >> this is becoming now a very difficult challenge for the authorities globally. what we're seeing is a slight change in tactics. it is no longer necessarily about the al qaeda mass casualty plots. what we're witnessing are targeted assassinations. we saw it last year in the killings in south nond. we've seen it in canada and now in france. it still remains to be seen what network was involve in the shooting in paris itself. it looks like this goes beyond self-starters or so-called lone wolves. they were trained, very well prepared. they seemed to have done their
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planning. it goes beyond just the three individuals the authorities are looking for. >> i talked earlier with my guests hundreds of young men travel from france. how do you reduce the number of young people doing this and really get to the core of why they're doing it. these three, they were born in france. why are we saying this happened with these young men? >> you have to look at the ideological narrative that is indoctrinating these individuals. counter terrorism effectively is about camden, you, arresting, prosecuting. it is an important strategy but it doesn't eliminate the terrorists. for every individual that is taken away there are at least another five coming along the assembly line. if we do not look at the ideology that is being used we ultimately miss the fact that groups like isis al qaeda, are
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able to use their doctrine through the internet through the media to motivate. one of these individuals, said kouachi is. to have been connected to the movement ten years ago. he was intending to travel there before he was arrest asked prosecuted. that may be a clue as to where they are connected to. >> many thanks for your analysis. >> we'll take another break here. still to come a look at who has been on radical islam's most wanted list.
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people around the world expressing shock. wednesday's shoot prompted a nationwide manhunt for the suspects. police are looking for two brothers believed to be the main suspects them say they found an i.d. document belonging to one of them at the scene of the shooting. the paris attack is not the first time people have been targeted by terrorists for ideas they expressed. >> reporter: the poster reads wanted dead or alive for crimes against islam. they are primarily people who
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have this satirized islam. salman rushdie. 1988 he publishes the satanic versus, a book highly critical of islam. protests erupt. book stores in the u.s. and britain and a newspaper are bombed. iran's ayatollah khomeini orders a fatwa. >> i think in many cases, some people may think because nobody has killed me, there isn't anybody trying to kill me. that's not true. i wish it were. >> reporter: 2004 the dutch filmmaker produces submission, a movie which criticizes the treatment of women in islam. a few months later he was shot to death. stabbed and nearly decapitated in amsterdam. his killer a 26-year-old dutch moroccan islamist is serving life in prison. kurt westerguard the danish cartoonist draws an image of
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muhammad with a bomb in his turbin. danish embassies are set ablaze. he receives numerous death threats. eventually a man wielding an axe breaks into his home but he survives the attack. lars vilks. 2007 the swedish artist makes a series of drawings depicting muhammad as a dog. protests erupt. he receives death threats and there's an offer of $150,000 for his assassination. in 2009 a plot to murder vilks. one of the people, a woman, is doubled jihad jane. stephane charbonnier, 2011. his magazine charlie hebdo publish as caricature of muhammad and named him as the
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editor-in-chief for the next issue. the offices are fire bombed but no one is hurt. >> one has the impression that everybody is driven by fear. that's what the small handful of fundamentalists wants to do. >> reporter: today's attack, stephane charbonnier killed. also wanted the partner in the controversial film submission. cnn, new york. >> the activist said the attack has left her in a state of shock and grief. she told cnn anderson cooper, the violence is part of an ideology that must be addressed at its core. >> we are not at war with islam. within islam is a radical movement that has declared war on us. and that radical movement
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regardless of the number. they are a minority. that minority has declared war on us. and in that asymmetric relationship you have irregular warfare. and we have to respond to them. not only in taking out the leaders, not only with military means and surveillance means, we have to get to the bottom of it and see where the ideas are coming from. >> author and activist talking to cnn earlier. the attack at charlie hebdo came after years of threats and even a fire bombing. ahead, a closer look at the magazine's long history of controversy. ...we're going to need you on the runway. (vo) don't let a severe cold hold you back. sir? (vo) theraflu starts to get to work in your body in just 5 minutes. (vo) theraflu breaks you free from your worst cold and flu symptoms.
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a careless mistake apparently helped police identify the suspects in went's terror attack in paris. the cnn affiliate reports one of the suspects led an i.d. document at the scene. police are looking for kouachi and his brother cherif northeast of paris. a third suspect reportedly turned himself into police. the attack and its aftermath left 12 people dead including several of charlie hebdo's famous and controversial cartoonists. this isn't the first time the
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magazine has been targeted. >> reporter: charlie hebdo is well known for controversy. the magazine quickly became known for its flippant treatment of politicians and public figures, o poking fun at religion all faiths and the french political right. but it was its addition to publish a cartoon at the prophet muhammad in 2006 that landed charlie hebdo in hot water. it further created controversy when it published another cartoon of the prophet on the cover of the magazine. the depict of the prophet muhammad is strictly prohibited in islam. charlie hebdo's decision to release that magazine provoked fury among many muslims in france and those around the world. before that issue hit the stand, the magazine's offices were fire bombed. but the cartoonist said he would not back down. >> people say okay.
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that's not -- we can't make everyone happy and we know that. okay let's move the line more further. but it was not completely it was not the point to make provocation. >> reporter: there were no deaths in the 2011 bombing but this latest attack was devastating with stephane charbonnier among the dead. two years ago he talked about his decision to run with that controversial 2011 cover. of the prophet muhammad. >> it has been 20 years since we've been doing provocation and it is noticed only when we talk about islam or this part of islam which raises problems and which is a minority. >> reporter: also killed on the attack two of the cartoonists. as authorities investigate this latest attack, the french presidents appealing for national unity as the country and the families of the dead
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mourn. >> stay with us. cnn's special coverage of the terror attack continues in just a moment. ♪
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hello and welcome to our viewers here in the united states and of course all around the world. i'm rosemary church. >> i'm errol barnett. it's 9:00 a.m. in france where afp is quoting the interior minister who says seven people have now been detained in the investigation of wednesday's shooting in paris. that happening in the overnight hours. >> and police are of course still looking for two brothers. cherif and saeed