and the terror that gripped this city and much of france for three days now, well, it's frankly not yet over. people have breathed somewhat of a sigh of relief but there's still a massive manhunt going on for one terror suspect. two brothers wanted in the killings of two here at the office of charlie hebdo, blocks from where i'm standing killed at the print shop north of the city. the man on the right there wanted in a police shooting, the death of a policewoman in paris killed thursday morning. that man is dead. his female house meat though. she remains at charge. that is the manhunt under way. the police spokesman believe she may have been inside the

supermarket that he took over and that she may have actually been able to escape the supermarket where four hostages were killed. a lot of questions though have been raised about that. how it would have been possible to give out, given the tight security presence all around that supermarket. so that question remains. what we do know is she is still believed to be at large and police and law enforcement are looking for her very, very urgently. it's hard for experts to believe though she may have been able to escape. we're going to show you a video captured by french television of the storming of the supermarket. we're going to show you for a number of reasons and a couple of key moments we're going to actually pause it. i'll play most of it in the natural sound so you can experience the raid as it happened. this occurred several minutes, at least five minutes or so after the assault began on the print shop where the two brothers had been hold up.

that assault began at the print shop. jim sciutto has been reporting because it now appears as if the brothers tried to leave the print shop or at least the shooting. shots heard and then flash bang grenades went off. it was several minutes later that the video that you're about to see, the moment where police moved in, s.w.a.t. teams and tactical units moved in to the supermarket where more than a dozen hostages had been. let's take a look at that as captured by french tv.

difficulty. it's on a motor. they weren't able to obviously get up until the gate was up. it gave an indication to the terrorists inside that a raid was already beginning. and as the gate going up, you can clearly see the body of one hostage laying there lifeless on the ground. law enforcement here has said four hostages were killed before the raid took place. we don't know if in fact that's true, that all the hostages were killed. the four hostages killed before the raid took place but at least one person was laying apparently lifeless on the ground. this, another critical moment. that is the third terror suspect, the man wanted in connection with the killing of a french policewoman. trying to run out of the door, being shot by the tactical units

there. police then move in. didn't want to show you the actual shooting of the terrorist. police then move in. hostages then come out. the idea that any hostage could have escaped in this moment seems highly unlikely. they are quickly herded by the tactical units into waiting vehicles. we now understand at least two of the police officers were wounded as they went and one of the colleagues trying to help him. that we believe is them bringing out the terrorist, leaving him on the ground and here, there you see one of the wounded

police officers who has then received treatment, two wounded in that attack. a very difficult operation given they were only two points of entrance to the supermarket and large markets of hostage to deal with. with all that playing out here, concerns are growing around the world for potential for similar tactics. we report the state department asks u.s. citizens to remain a high level of vigilance and u.s. community shifted into high gear. pamela brown with more on that. you've been talking to law enforcement and intelligence officials. >> reporter: u.s. law enforcement officials have been expecting an attack like what we saw in paris and what happened there is one of the biggest concerns about the threat of terror activity in western countries. what's so striking to u.s. officials, just the sophistication of the tactics and techniques used by the subjects suggesting formal training and didn't immediately

monitor themselves like we see in terror attacks. they drag this out, instilling terror and fear, keeping the story alive likely with the knowledge they would eventually die, anderson. this also shows the boundaries between the different terror affiliates is breaking down. the threat is metastasizing and turning into a global network, as we know. three of the suspects talked about how they were with isis and aqap. anderson? >> since the mumbai attacks, we've seen an escalating number of these smaller scale attacks with handfuls of gunmen with some level of training. we've seen it in kabul. we've seen it in pakistan. certainly, we've now seen it in paris. how much of the concern that this is sort of the new face, the shifting of tactics away from large scale tactics with a number of groups to take out by may be harder to take out than

the smaller scale ones? glr absolutely. you hit the nail of the head. we are moving from a world of a megaterror in the 9/11 area to the smaller scale and essentially harder to detect operations. what we saw in paris is a step up from the unsophisticated lone wolf attacks we've seen recently and that concern was concerned in the joint warning sent out to law enforcement agencies across the country. highlighting the tactics and techniques used by the suspects. so that was by m.i. 5 warned more terrorist attacks are to come. there is a sense, anderson, in some ways, this could just be the beginning. it's like the war on drugs, you know, it seemed like there's no end in sight, as one official told me. >> yeah. that was the sentiment echoed by phil mudd, former member of the cia in the last hour.

pamela brown, appreciate the update. in paris, the threat is playing out hour by hour. we have new photos of the woman still believed to be at large. two pictures of her obtained by the french daily. the fugitive, she's pointed there. additionally, learning more about the two brothers at the print shop. jim sciutto is getting that. jim, what are you learning? >> reporter: that's right. this from french prosecutors learned tonight that in their car and found flags, both from aqap. they themselves claimed they were part of al qaeda and yemen, as well as the contacts french authorities were aware of. the training took from al qaeda in yemen prior to this attack. interesting, they had both of the attacks. we spoke about this earlier,

anderson, a go-procamera. a great demonstration of the era where in here, all of these heavy weapons, the flags of these two threatening terrorist groups but a go-procamera that kids use when they go skiing. what we don't know yet is if they found anything on the go-procamera to film the cameras as they were carrying them out. >> you know, those are actually very popularity details. one of the camera, there had been a lot of talk in jihadi circles and social media circles, kind of upset at the fact that there hadn't been video taken by the attackers. often they are used later on for recruitme recruitment. the fact a go-pro camera was found seems they hope to record some video. the attack here on charlie hebdo, that was taken by

journalists who worked in the same building. also, jim, i'm fascinated by the fact they had both al qaeda in the arabian peninsula flag and isis. how much direction they had and collecting jihadist flags and try to use at some point. it does raise questions and again, something they figure out. about how much these operations really were directed by larger group. obviously, we know cherif kouachi claiming in an interview before the final attack took place, the final authorities moved in, claiming that he did, in fact, travel to syria and, in fact, this was directed an overseen by al qaeda in the arabian peninsula but unclear whether that may have been just talk. >> reporter: well, it's

interesting because there's a whole range of possibilities here. you can have training from al qaeda in the arabian peninsula without direction. they could have gone there, weapons training and chosen the target and timing on their own. this is the new reality we're dealing with here. i've gotten briefings from intelligence officials in recent months about how al qaeda and its affiliatedchi franchisees and effects are harder to track ranging from lone wolves, inspired by the propaganda online but picking the targets, doing everything their own. perhaps in the middle ground, attackers like these two ref training but might have picked the targets on their own rather than having direct direction. but this is something investigators still try to pinpoint as they trace back these attacks both here and in northeast of paris. >> jim, fascinating details tonight. thank you. i want to bring dan oh shea and

former head of the and gary bernstein. holly is here as well. i wonder what your thoughts are on what's taken place in the last 24 hours and what to expect next. >> well, this is the worst fears being realized. we see the crows coming home to roost of these individuals that are being trained. they're getting combat experience in iraq and syria and elsewhere throughout the middle east, africa, other places. they're bringing back jihad to france and england and australia last month. so this is very challenging because this could be just the start, the tip of the iceberg we see played out in paris the last couple of days. >> gary, i do, not to instill fear or spread fear but i think

it's important to be informed. i talked to former intelligence official on this program the last several days who say they believe it's only a matter of time before there is something like this potentially in the united states, given the low level of training one actually needs to carry out something like this and the high impact it can have on social media and in the public. >> clearly, it doesn't take a lot of training to be able to have firearms. and decent trainers and i want to see the trade craft these guys used, as you look at their comes. was there presurveillance activity and it doesn't take a lot of expertise to do these. the west is full of countries that were soft targets. we have an open border in the united states. and they can sell fund. we're going to need better intel. we're going to need better ways

if we want to be able to confront what could be a new wave here and this may be an early example of what this is going to look like. >> you're still the manhunt under way for the female suspect. plans moving forward sunday with a huge show of solidarity, the people of paris. political leaders around western europe are said to becoming here. they made announcements publicly in a show of support in face of the terror threat. >> that's right. in the same way perhaps as an individual, you need closure in order to process, grief perhaps as a nation as well. france needs that. with a big demonstration. and you're talking about the highest levels of european leadership. almost like a state funeral. angela merck l, the prime minister of spain, the prime minister of the u.k. to converge for several reasons. one, it's the right thing to do. two, in all those countries as

well, there are fears of home grown gee ha di dss, and might cause problems as well. >> dan, the question now of the fourth suspect. the woman believed to be a woman jihadist, the girlfriend of the terrorist killed at the grocery store, a, you know, there had been this question of whether or not she actually had been in the supermarket. it's not clear if that is actually the case. it doesn't seem likely given the difficulty for her to be able to escape. i don't see how that's possible. but it certainly does, i think, surprise a lot of people to see her face when police put it out early this morning and it does kind of open one's eye to the reality, the variety of kind of suspects who may be involved in something like this. one can't just, imagine it's a

guy, could be anybody. >> the fact i brought up on your show in the past, ten years ago in this crisis in iraq when al qaeda was doing this hostage terrorism spread campaign with the beheadings which isis has taken to the forefront in recent months but when we talk about foreign fighters to iraq, these were coming from the gulf states, middle east, united emirates, morrow koe, but now these are coming back from france and england. we've got a hundred plus fighters from the u.s. fighting in syria and iraq now under the isis flag. so this is what's very challenging is that the fact that so many westerners coming in all colors, creeds, genders, if you will, that are being motivated and inspired by this. we look for this one woman in the mix but the bigger picture is the neighborhood that fostered this, the folks

indirectly supporting the biologistics, like gary alluded to earlier, how big of a mix now is inspired by the acts now happening in france. they happened last month in australia. there was an attack in canada, the month before the shooting at the monument. this is as others start to say, this is the thard wave of what's now coming back. it's not necessarily a guy that looks middle eastern with a beard. it could be anyone. >> and gary, you know, authorities said to me, an individual, a lone individual is often the hardest attack to prevent. they may not have a social media profile or be on the radar of law enforcement. the larger a cell gets, the more opportunities there are to try to connect the dots to try to prevent an attack like this but we still don't know the full extent of this cell here and it

just really goes the show the difficulties for intelligence officials, law enforcement personnel to keep track of the sheer number of suspects they have, particularly here in france. the sheer number of people it takes to track somebody. apparently these brothers though, at least one of them had served time. though, they were on the radar of intelligence officials here. they had been under at some time, some form of surveillance, but it seems like they kind of lay low for a while. cherif kouachi got a job in a fish market. seemed to be non-involved in anything and clearly, french intelligence stopped following him or stopped paying as much attention to him as they had previously. >> anderson, the europeans and the french in particular have problems that are the result of also 751 no-go zones in france where you have islamist communities that have formed councils that marry this.

there are 55 no go zones in sweden. firefighters or ambulance drivers go under attack, their vehicles lit on fire. slashed. the europeans have not pushed away from this. they can't surveil people if they can't go in there. consequently, you have people completely separated from the government. no control over there and walk out of the no-go zone and do an attack. the europeans have lost their minds by allowing these things to be created. we don't have that in the united states, thank goodness but europeans faced with much larger numbers of jihadists and these on claifs. >> holly, it certainly does raise a lot of concerns moving forward and a lot of questions about how do you assimilate large number of immigrants. and immigrants traditionally do

in the united states. >> i think you can point the finger of blame both ways with the situation. this is decades and decades of missed opportunities and integration with some of the communities. so yes, you do have and this is true, on claifs with police, to go in and there are sort of self-governing groups that create sort of separate little entities within the enclaves. that is true. but in the european countries, there needs to be a conversation about how young men they don't need to get their identity, the extreme fringe of the criminality where they don't feel like they get their identity and available for brainwashing by these groups. that is definitely a conversation that needs to happen. >> dan o'shea, great to have you on the program. sorry it's under these circumstances. up next, the reaction of terror and how it's been resonating in

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we've been talking about the climate that either gives rise to violent extremism or hopefully discourages it and helps law enforcement contain it. the key here in france or maybe around the world may be found in the larger muslim community. joining me now, lived alongside the kouachi brothers and speak arabic fluently, a native speaker. spent time in communities like this. the global mail said he talked to a neighbor concerned about the kouachi brothers and seen a cash of weapons in their house

and threatened not to go to police. >> it's very different. we went to where cherif, the older brother, prayed. but they barely saw him. they didn't make the initial connection it was someone who wo was at their mosque. but people didn't want to talk at the apartment building, bombarded by the press. off camera said he was actually quite polite, very quiet. yes, sat times they heard loud noises, arguments from the apartment. a couple occasions with his wife, and outside of the local kabob shop where he'd stop to have a meal once in a while. the groups say they were stunned when they saw his image on

television. they had no idea whatsoever from his behavior he had such radical sbengs and one man remembered how he would help old women carry their groceries. >> there have been a number of reports that cherif kouachi got a job as a fishmonger, laying low. all he talked about was the price of fish, never politics or anything like that. the question is, was that part an intentional kind of laying low to try to make sure that law enforcement wasn't tracking them, didn't have concerns about them as they planned this operation or not? >> it very well could be because after his release from jail in 2004 and 2005 because he was radicalized and had an intention to fight the war in iraq. it seems upon his release of 7-08, he did take a concerted effort to not necessarily stand out. that's a key issue. you have individuals who don't fit the stereotype of what people believe your muslim

terrorist would look like. these people that easily blend into the population and then there's the ones who emerge being the most radical. >> which says to law enforcement at the time, did believe he may have had a role in an attempt to break out two algerian nationals who were held in a french prison for prior terror attack. they said there wasn't enough evidence to bring them to trial. though the other suspect and the third suspect in the supermarket actually was caught and put on trial in relation. arwa damon, i appreciate it. we want to get, the brooking institute and author. appreciate being with us. i wonder your thoughts on all that you have seen taking place in the last several days and also, what it means for france moving forward as a society. >> well, it's an extremely difficult time for french muslims, especially as a new

minor minori minority. this is going to set back the clock a lot on majority/minority relations. >> there's a talk about his continuing to drive a wedge further between muslim society in france and the rest of society. politically, a wedge. socially, a wedge that already exists and in some efforts, that's really part of something that terrorists want to have happen. they want there to be a wedge between the groups. they want to be an idea of war against islam to feed into the notion that terrorists try to push. >> that's exactly right. they want to polarize and divide. that's why it's striking one of the first things that happened during today's friday in paris, bordeaux, to participate in the

unity march. the delegations here for the interior ministry arrived for the muslim federation. i think they're very careful about avoiding any of those traps. >> we have seen new immigrants particularly from muslim countries, not making as much effort to assimilate into the larger population, we've seen that in sweden. obviously, in england. here in france and earlier, talking about kind of no go zones where police don't even really go into. it does go both ways. french governments, prior governments and current ones reaching out to muslim communities but there is this lack of assimilation in many quarters. >> we have to distinguish between ethnic enclaves, little italy, china town, and no go zones on the other. which has to do with the rule of law stopping at the borders of

certain neighborhoods. those are very different. i think when it comes to new migrant populations, it's quite natural they choose to congregate together. they are by shops that remind them of their country of origin and prayer spaces. it's just whether there's an opportunity to get out if they want to and make sure that's not a solid line but rather a dotted line to leave if they want to but also identify with their community if that's what they choose. i think a lot of french muslims don't feel that they can do so comfortably. say they're muslim and french and proud to be so. >> critical days in the days ahead and weeks and months ahead. appreciate you being with us. more on the story, cnn.com. just ahead, she is right now the most wanted woman in france tonight. a companion of one of the terrorists killed today, a suspect in the french policewoman thursday morning. the search for this woman has put her on the spotlight in the

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manhunt, huge manhunt under way after gunfire, standoff and lockdowns. this 26-year-old woman believed to be on the run. her name is hayat boumeddiene. she was taking hostages in the jewish supermarket. also the reminder of face of terrorism is not just male. randi kaye looks at that. >> reporter: look closely. the jihadist behind the veil is a mother of two. name used to be sally jones but after she converted to islam, reportedly changed it to sakina hew seen. and it's a far cry from this one published in the daily mail,

celebrating the birth of her new baby and believed to be an isis fighter in syria. she moved there from the u.k. after meeting a hacker turned militant online. she told the london times her youngest child is with her too and he's taking the muslim name humsa. saying my son and i love life with the beheaders. this jihadist is also from britain. she's reportedly a 21-year-old medical student who goes by the name mujabita. a woman in a white doctor's coat and black berka holding a head. and including a smiley face and reportedly praised anwar all al-awlaki and u.s. journalist of stephen sotloff.

terror estimates 15% of the the foreign recruits could be female with up to 200 women from at least 14 different countries. experts say the women are motivated by the idea of meeting a jihadist husband, hoping for the prestige that comes with husbands who die as martyrs. long before isis, the israeli conflict gave rise to terrors, including this grandmother who tried to blow up in gaza in 2006 but died after detonating explosives in her belt. family said she wanted to become a martyr. and what about this woman? caalan la rose after converting to islam online. traveled to europe in 2009 part of a plot to shoot and kill swedish artists after he depicted mohammed on a dog. she was arrested after returning to philadelphia. la rose sentenced lastian iaij

to ten years. all to make a name in martyr dom and the list is growing. randi kaye, cnn, new york. >> joining me now is chief international correspondent christiane amanpour and here in paris, terrorism expert, samuel laure laurent. jihadis, people have not paid attention to really, but seems to be on the rise. >> exactly. it's something that is expending at the dramatic speed, especially now with isis. for about a year, isis has been using a lot of propaganda through internet, through videos and so on. and the youngsters are vu vulnerable to that. young women have been flowing to syria and iraq and dragged into these. we saw some 14-year-old

teenagers, not only one but many moving to france to syria, attempting to move to syria. they were seduced by this. picked a simple life. somehow a life of principle, of values based on koran and fighting something attractive to them. >> it seems like it's being sold as a form of empowerment, in a culture perhaps they don't feel that sense. >> a culture they don't know basically. those girls which are moving to islam do not know islam have a very tiny knowledge of islam. most do not speak arabic. read koran but a brief summary done by jihadi who basically teach them. but actually, yes, it's a

paradoxical thing. it's this culture that's basically enslaving women in the jihadi group and so an empowerment for the youngsters and the weak, i would say weak minds. >> christiane, obviously, there's a lot of questions now about, and i know you spoke with the foreign minister in paris. he told you about 30% of foreign fighters who have gone to syria and iraq are actually women. >> they're very concerned about that. i was actually really surprised when he told me in the course of the conversation about the threat france specifically faces, slightly greater than other western european countries because more have gone over there. he was talking about those who are about 30%, as you say, are women. that's a fear for those coming back. falling off from what your guest is saying, women are going to fight for these causes or going to join these causes. again, the foreign minister warned very strongly about this in an interview with me, even

before this attack. they're being enslaved, sexual tools. they are basically tools of this movement here right now and that is something very, very problem for law enforcement and governments. how to convince not just the men but women not to go over there because they're not going to have a glorious life, they're going to be enslaved. that's something concerning. yes, we see an uptick in anecdotal evidence of women jihadis but not just the muslim jihad. it was europe in the '70s and '80s, women part of the very left wing terrorist groups that were around in europe at that time. so it's not unusual. it's not as many as men, but there are women throughout history in these groups.

>> in sri lanka. samuel, how much of a failure in france have we seen in intelligence with the fact this cell was able to become operational? >> this cell, i would say this is probably the biggest failure we ever experienced. even after in brussels. what happened is that it is obviously very difficult to track all the jihadists we have, but those cells were the core. they were the oldest. >> known to law enforcement for more than, some cases, more than a decade. >> yes. law enforcement since 2005 for one of them. and actually, the point is that it's disturbing that the u.s. were keeping an eye on them and closely monitoring them, forbidding them from entering the territory and france basically let one of them fly to

yemen and get trained there in al qaeda camp, gaining knowledge of weapon he used here, just basically. >> no doubt there's a lot of looking and soul searching to see how to try and rectify that behavior. samuel, i appreciate it. and christiane. samuel laurent. coming up, showing solidarity, they're not afraid for charlie hebdo to continue. more on that ahead. why are we so committed to keeping you connected? why combine performance with efficiency? why innovate for a future without accidents? why do any of it? why do all of it? because if it matters to you, it's everything to us. the xc60 crossover. from volvo. lease the well-equipped volvo xc60 today. visit your local volvo showroom for details.

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colleagues of the murder of charlie hebdo vowing to publish the edition of charlie hebdo. as many as a million copies are printed. one of the publications surviving. he was not in the office. luc works right across from charlie hebdo. he came from the aftermath of the slaughter, saw the aftermath. he joins me now with airash dernbarish. he was also there. sorry, friend. i mispronounced your last name. i know this is the first time you have come so close to the office for seeing this memorial.

i'm sorry for your loss. to see the outpouring for support here in france, in amsterdam, in berlin, to see memorials like this, the united states coming to the french embassy, how has that been for you? >> first of all, i want to thank you, that's you, our brothers. we are one civilization. now against the terrorists. but when i came here, i was care. but people have to know something. we will never give up against the terrorists. never. we will do the battle now for the freedom of speech, and we want to show to everyone, to the world, that france is the height. this situation alone. great britain, other countries.

france, say no against the terrorists. >> if the objective of the terrorists and it certainly was, not just to silence charlie hb doe but to have a blow against freedom of expression and freedom of speech, without a doubt they failed in that. if anything, they have amplified the voices of those who have died and amplified the choices calling for solidarity. >> it's most important to know that. there is one difference between your country and ours. in the usa, you have a lot of communities. jewish communities, christian communities. in france, one community. the french community. we have got the same value. freedom of speech, democracy, but i want to say to the muslim french, that we are brothers. we are french. we are not only muslim, you are not only jewish.

we are french. this battle, we will win it i want to give my condolences to the victims. when i took a lunch with when a took a lunch with him two weeks before the christmas he, we said, take care of her you will pass a good christmas. and i say to him, be careful, my friend, for with your job, you can die. he said to me, never once to die to kill an artist. for him he is only one weapon was a pen. and the pen for him, the consequence to kill them. that's why i was so sad and

angry now. but france -- the best answer of france is not first the war. we have to meditation about what happened to our country. because, this is the most problem for us. >> luc, sunday there will be a massive outpouring, world leaders are coming to be here as well. as some one who lives here to see this, to see that the reaction this has the had, what does it make you think? >> i was very moved, coming here to the set to hear that angela merkel was going to come. it is going to be massive. lots of people. other capitals in europe will be participating. and we are all organizing our families to, to go there, i have a 16-year-old son. he said i want to come. in his school. they all said, we all will be in

the streets marching. for freedom of, of speech. sunday, sunday afternoon. >> is that something you plan to attend as well? >> yes. it is very important for us. i want -- i have to say, just something to your president. president barack obama. thank you, president, because what you did yesterday to come to the french embassy for you and for me, french people, it its amazing i think. you said that american person is just next french for us it is very warm. and thank you to, to -- >> you feel that global support. you feel that sense of solidarity right now? >> because the the solidarity is important now. because we are -- brothers -- when you, unfortunately, you had the 9/11. we were here. and you just remember that, jacques chirac, the first

president of the world came to new york. on the first -- the first sign that a president in the world did, was barack obama. he came to the french embassy. we never forget that. thank you, america. >> i am so sorry for your loss, of your friend, and thank you for being with us. luc as well. thank you very much. just ahead, more on what has been an extraordinary day here. other big developments including the possibility that, retired general david peraeus will face criminal charges, a huge surprise to a lot of people. that when we come back. and we'll even get you started with 10gb of free 4g lte data.

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we're live in paris. we will have more on today's standoffs. three terrorists killed. the hunt on for a female suspect still at large. let's get the latest. randi? >> prosecutors recommending charges be filed against david petraeus for giving classified information to his former mistress while director of the cia. federal law enforcement official says there is enough evidence for felony charges. the cia and justice department are not commenting. >> mitt romney may be eyeing another run for the white house. romney told a small group of republican donors in new york he is seriously considering a presidential bid for 2016. according to a source who was in the room. >> and the fbi has released this sketch of a person of interest in an explosion outside a local

naacp office in colorado and announced a $10,000 reward for information leading to an arrest. a make shift bomb debt nated tuesday morning but did not ignite a gasoline can placed beside it. no one was injured. anderson. >> randi. thank you very much. we'll be right back.

tip has been an extraordinary 24 hours, several days here in france. the story is still not over.

the manhunt continues. huge rally planned here, on sunday, stay with cnn for continuing coverage that does it for us. appreciate you watching. our coverage continues now with "cnn tonight" and don lemon. >> remarkable day. get you to walk us through in a moment. stand by, "breaking news." one terror suspect a woman on the run after twin raid in france. the first killed the brothers authorities blamed for the "charlie hebdo" massacre. the second the alleged hostage taker at a kosher store in eastern paris. >> announcer: this is cnn "breaking news." >> want to get back now to anderson. he said a stunning day of developments in and around paris. anderson you have been covering at least a standoff and then the capture and killing. all day. walk us through it. >> most importantly the manhunt continues right now as you know for the fourth terror suspect, the female who, who, the girlfriend, believed to be

girlfriend of the third terror suspect, the man wanted in connection with the, the killing of a french police woman on thursday morning. she is also wanted in connection with the killing of that french police woman. wounding another police officer in the same incident thursday morning. the man took over the -- the kosher supermarket. many hours ago here on, on friday. and ended up getting killed in that attack as did the two kouachi brothers who were held up, about, 25 or so miles from the supermarket. in an industrial park in a printing shop. it all played out in front of the cameras for several hours today. let's take a look back act the day that was. >> reporter: tonight the voice of a terrorist explaining what he had done to a reporter from a french television station. [ speaking foreign language ]

>> reporter: the voice of the manholed up with 19 hostages. he would end up dying tonight in a fury -- furious assault. all caught on camera. the man and his 26-year-old girlfriend, hayad boumediene were wanted for the killing of a police woman a day earlier. her where abuts are still unknown. trapped inside the print shop 20 miles away, the kouachi brothers, began the slaughter wednesday at "charlie hebdo" also felt the urge to talk. this is cherif kouachi on the phone with a radio reporter. >> translator: we are just telling you are the defenders of prophet muhammad. i was sent me, cherif kouachi by al qaeda in yemen. >> reporter: at an industrial park not far from the city's main airport, the brothers entered a small print shop. in the early morning rain and fog, police chased them down. just after 8:00 a.m., a salesman

there told a french radio station that he saw one of the terrorists dressed in black and heavily armed. he didn't realize it was the "charlie hebdo" gunmen. >> translator: i suppose he was a terrorist. i deidn't really know him. >> reporter: once surrounded french police reached them by phone and they reportedly said they were ready to die as martyrs. hours later the assault began. soon, both cherif and said kouachi were dead. several minutes later outside the kosher supermarket police began to prepare for the assault. automatic fire is continuing. another explosion. >> reporter: inside, the suspect earlier demanded the kouachi brothers be allowed to leave the print shop. remember he told the television reporter their mission was "synchronized." authorities say, he was the same man involved in the killing of a french police woman thursday morning. he was killed in the assault,

and israeli sources say, four civilians' bodies were found inside. at a speech in tennessee, president obama talked about the aftermath. >> and the streets of paris, the world has seen once again what terrorists stand for. they have nothing to offer but hatred and human suffering. and we stand for freedom and hope and the dignity of all human beings. france's interior minister said the nation is relieved tonight that the manhunt for a female suspect continues. that manhunt as i said, don, very much under way. the largest manhunt we have seen over the last several days in french history. some 88,000 personnel involved in it. it is very intense now for this female suspect. >> anderson, what more do we know about the female suspect, anything more, being, about, except for being his girlfriend and becoming radicalized? >> she has had a several year relationship, we believe going

back to 2010. with the man who took over the, the, supermarket. much more than that, we really do not know. we don't know exactly her role, her operational role in this, police say, she was involved in the killing of that french police woman and the shooting of the police officer. exactly whchl o lly which one p trigger we do not know. she is considered armed, dangerous. fran like law enforcement is looking at anyone else who may have been part of this, what now appears to be, a cell, which has been operating here certainly publicly over the last several days. at least which has, linked to each others going back in some cases ten years, don. >> anderson, stand by. i want to bring in cnn's reporter from the siege in the kosher market, and, a reporter is in the town where the suspect in the "charlie hebdo" attacks were killed today. jim to you first. you were near the kosher grocery

store when the raid was going on. tell whatus what happened? >> i will tell you. explosions, first explosions that -- that rapid gunfire. in the span of minutes just after the raid took place. northeast of paris. we have been watching the tension build all day with those tactical police units. surrounding that kosher market. they went in without any warning. and having been to iraq many times. afghanistan many times. i am used to that kind of -- gunfire. those sorts of explosions. i did not expect it to hear it. here in the streets of paris. here is the moment. as the it was happening. it unfolded on cnn's air. now i am hearing gunfire. multiple shots. automatic fire. i'm going to stop speaking there so you can hear it. as well as i am. it's continuing.

another explosion. this all happened, about 300 yard from where we are. at this kosher market. of course, that all ended with the gunmen in effect charging that police tactical unit killed there. and then sadly, police concluding that four hostages had died. they say, not in that exchange. not during the raid. but earlier when the hostage take taker, terrorists took over the kosher shop. the operation up in northeast of paris. seemed to go according to plan. this one, unfortunately, with more casualties. >> jim you, know we are watching that video. just up of the police rushing in. and hostages, running out. during the raid. is the fact that this woman would be able to escape difficult to imagine in that situation?

as you watch that video. i am sure you feel the same way, don. it its hard to imagine the circumstances. at this point it is only the police union which has said they believe she took that opportunity during the, the confusion to escape, perhaps when the other hostages managed to get out. as we watch that video, it, it seems difficult to understand. of course, the interior ministry here and others have not confirmed that they believe that she escaped. one thing that is clear as you watch that video. we have these impression that these highly trained units when they go in, that everything goes according to plan. but, really, experience shows that once you have that first contact. that plan disappears. there is always an element of chaos there. so you have to allow for the possibility that you manage to get away. >> jim, we know about male suspects they were killed. what to we know about the hostages. you said four of them died. >> it is the belief of french authorities that those four who did die in there t. that they

died earlier in this hostage taking. when this attacker, when this terrorist took over that kosher market. the police say it didn't happen during the exchange of fire during the raid. and in fact when we look at that video, there, as the police were entering, you could see at least one body visible on the ground. look, unfortunately that man was deceased when the police went in. hard for us to know the three other hostages who died were already dead. that's what the president of france said during his own announcement on national television here that those hostages died, earlier during the hostage taking. >> yes. frederick, the kosher grocery store was a place both muslims and jews frequented. >> yeah, you are right. one of the things we keep talking about, don, is as coverage unfolded. france has one of the largest muslim populations, 10% of the people in france are muslims

they also have a large jewish community. what we have to know about the area where the kosher grocery store is, it is an area where muslims, as well as the jews are together. and, you are absolutely right. during the team of the siege. at any point in time there could have been muslims in there. christians. and jews as well. if you look at that grocery store it is one that is very big. and of course has, a wide array of items. therefore people of all faiths, and, of all sorts of other nationalities even. considering that paris is such a cosmopolitan city would have been there. what you have also in that area, in other areas, as well in paris as well as in france in general. you do have jews and muslims living together in a very peaceful way. however, that equilibrium if you will is challenged at this point in time. not only by events but by a string of anti-semitic attacks going on in the weeks and months of 2014 especially. where they have seen a large increase in these kinds of things, don. >> as a result of what happened

today. synagogues are closing in paris? >> yeah, absolutely right. it really is a troubling sign. if you will, of one of the things that happened as a result of that -- that siege and that raid, that happened there. its that the grand synagogue of -- of paris, closed down for the first time on the shabat since world war ii. how big an event. something where the jewish community of paris is coming out saying they are worried what is going on there. they are very worried about jooujews and muslims living together in france. they say the level of ant anti-semiti anti-semitism, has become so bad, jews are kidding leaving t -- considering leaving the country. >> i want to ask you about the state department. issued a worldwide caution, asking u.s. citizens, vigilance

and take steps to increase security awareness in light of attacks in paris. what are you hearing about the fear of copycats and more attacks? >> well, it is very big. the fear of copycats. >> for anderson. >> one of the things you can see here in. oh, i'm sorry. go ahead, anderson. >> well, obviously, there is always concern, whether it is, whether you want to call them copycat attacks or other potential cells that may be out there. that may be wanting to go operational. or, self starters, or even what you might call lone wolves wanting to carry out attacks. get some attention. try to continue this. there are also real questions that remany about are there other members who have, connections to, to the three terrorists who have been killed. as well as the the, four suspect, who is still on the loose. are others out there wanting to continue some of the attacks we have seen over the last several days. that's something obviously

french officials are very concerned about. are very closely monitoring. trying to investigate as they try to learn, as much as the they can about the movements of -- of all of these suspects. over the last, 24, 48 hours. >> fred, you want to add something to that? >> yeah, absolutely. one of the other things that officials here have been worried about for a very long time. we have off to keep in mind that france specifically is a country that has seen a lot of citizens go to fight in places like iraq and syria. of course, still small proportion of the muslims in the country. it is the country in western europe that has seen the most of citizens go there. of course they're worried about the people coming back. they're battle hardened. they probably have seen things on the battlefield that have also made them less reluctant to take lives. one of the things we heard intelligence services say, is that they saw something like this coming for a very long time. they feared that something look this would happen. so certainly they fear that something look this could happen again. and now that people have seen this happen. as anderson was talking. they fear copy cats.

this do have an influx of people that are coming back from battlefield. in places like iraq and syria. who know how to deal with weapons. who certainly are very much -- wouldn't say willing, but certainly have possibly killed before on battlefield in those regions. that's something that is a very troubling sign, not just in france. but in all of western europe, don. >> thank you, gentlemen. stand by. a lot mr. ore to get to on breag news. a female suspect on the run. after three male suspects are skilled by police. plus the shocking conversation today between one of the suspects and french journalist. are there more attacks to come? how do we keep the bloodshed from spreading across the world? and the 45 highway mpg tdi clean diesel. and last but not least, the high performance gti. looks like we're gonna need a bigger podium. the volkswagen golf family. motor trend's 2015 "cars" of the year.

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tonight paris's famed monument, sporting the phrase "paris est charlie."

back to paris. anderson is there with breaking news. and more on the suspect on the run and more. anderson, show of solidarity in france. what are people saying about today's violence? >> there has been, there have been just remarkable shows of solidarity over the last several days. solidarity and real defiance too. tens of thousand gathering in paris, all throughout france. we have seen similar scenes in amsterdam, berlin, london, throughout western europe, spots in the united states as well. the location i am at right now just one of several make shift memorials which has sprung up. this one several blocks from the offices of, "charlie hebdo" where this massacre took place. wednesday. don, sunday. what is -- what is shaping up to be a huge rally, a huge show of defiance. by people here. in paris, world leaders from another, a number of western european countries, angela merkel, from germany. the prime minister, david cameron. have all said publicly they will

be attending. france's president will be attending as well. likely tens of thousand if not more, hundreds of thousand of french citizens as well. gathering together. even at this time. that there is this massive manhunt, the concern about the possibility of other attacks, whether from a, people linked to this cell, whether it is from the fourth female suspect. or, or others who out there who may want to, to grab the headlines and attention and the attention of the jihadist world. this rally plans to go forward. and it, it, it, more than likely is going to be just a -- yet another -- remarkable display of -- of courage in the face of terror. >> anderson. thank you very much. i want to bring in now, security experts. paul mudd, former cia official, bart barfe, and, paul cechek, and mia bloom, and author of

"bombshell." welcome everyone, thank you for joining us on a friday evening. paul to you first. there are reports, aqap claiming responsibility for the "charlie hebdo" attack. what do you think of it? >> don, i think it is certainly a plausible claim. it has the not been authenticated. saying one of the brothers trained with aqap. and the french suggests the other brother went there in 2011. quite possible they were recruited by al qaeda, yemen for attack in france. and that they were recruited by anwar al-awlaki. >> they had a huge stockpile, paul, of weapons. how much does it cost. where could they have gotten those weapons? >> that is a very big bupuzzle.

did have a stockpile of heavy weapons. kaleshnekovs, rocket launchers, things like that. unprecedented for a terrorist plot in the west. investigators are going to be looking carefully where they got these from. perhaps they got them from the black market from criminal underworld. they would have had to have significant finances and contacts. to get these weapons. a very, very disturbing detail here, don. >> want to ask you about, abut, hayat boumediene, believed to be on the run? are you surprised a woman was involved? >> i am not surprised. women have been involved in terrorism since 1968. if you go back, go back to 19th century. 1882. the fact is that a woman is involved is not surprising. that people are surprised that a woman was involved is what i still don't understand. we have seen women in so many different terrorist groups.

they do all the different kind of jobs in terrorist movements. >> is it -- is it, the, the fact that she is a woman that may have helped her get away because people weren't suspecting her? >> absolutely. i think it is precisely because she was able to blend in with the civilian population. that is precisely why terrorist groups use women. they use women at times when either they are trying to target civilians because women blend in with civilians or when they're trying to -- change the nature of the profile. if you are looking for a man, a muslim man of a certain age, using a woman is a perfect way to fall under the radar screen. one of the reasons why he was recruiting women. >> who was trying to get in? was some one trying to get in? was that phil? >> i thought some one want to

comment on what you said. phil, i want to ask you. according to the french prosecutor's office, the girlfriend and wife of the suspects. exchanged 500 phone calls in 2014. what does this tell you? >> look, there is a simple answer, don. i think is too simple. clearly there is a close relationship. that its not the conclusion i draw from this. let me go become to something that paul cruickshank said. over time they have been radicalized. reports one was in syria, and one of them was in yemen. over this course of time, over this development of the close relationship, what were they thinking of doing? who did they talk to? most of the plots developed fairly quickly. this one clearly percolated a long period of time. i want to know how did it percolate. what were they thinking of when they spent all this time developing the plot, talking to

each other. with all of the messages or phone calls. and acquiring all these weapons. there is a huge missed story here. that is what was going on over that time? >> barack barfe, do you agree with that? >> well, yeah, i definitely do. the problem here its that these people were on the radar. cherif, especially, the older one on the radar of american intelligence, yemeni intelligence. we know that cherif, met with the leader of the most radical muslim jihadist groups. should have flashed red lights in france. we believe he was on the no fly list. we believe the yemeni government passed on information about his activities. so we had a lot of red lights that should have alerted the french authorities to the possible -- attacks that these people could carry out. >> all right, everybody. stay right there. we have lots more to talk about. when we come back. we'll go to paris. for more on the breaking news. the search for the female

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>> a nationwide search under way in france to. track down a terror suspect. back to paris. jim, what's the latest on the investigation of hayat boumeddiene to night? >> the believe of the police union that hayat boumeddiene was in the kosher supermarket tonight and may have escaped when hostages escaped. the interior ministry have not confirmed that. watching the video. talked about this earlier in the hour, don.

difficult to realize how she would escape with police presence. that is what the police union is saying. they're looking for her. they believe she is involved. not sure she was operationally involved. she was present at yesterday's shooting as well. when a female police officer was shot. and they also say that sunny was, she was not a peripheral figure. she was communicating with the wife of the kouachi brother whose carried out the attack on paris, communicating frequently hundred of times last year. this was not a peripheral figure. they're treating her as dangerous. she may be armed. a real priority for the french security services to night. >> want to talk to you about the state department issuing this worldwide caution. what did it say? >> well, i'll tell you, you read this caution. and i frankly am not sure of what is intended to accomplish. it is warning americans about activities, throughout the world. it lists, europe, north africa,

asia. and it says that, it goes on to list virtually every public place that you can imagine. business areas. residential areas. schools. churches. mosques. and stores. you name it. basically, warning americans, virtually anywhere in public in the world. to be vigilant for the kinds of attacks. now the sad fact is, it is possible that terrorists, people either inspired on their own or operationally tied. believed these terrorists were. in yemen, the middle east could carry out attacks. you have a warning. as an american who travels frequently overseas, you wonder what you do with it. reading that, warning, standing on street corner tonight. is a possible risk as well. just so broad. you have to, wonder what the practical function of a warning like that is. >> jim, thank you very much. want to bring back, now, phil mud, paul cruickshank and mia

bloom. a u.n. official telling cnn "we expected this. they liken the terror threat to the war on drugs. a fight in perpetuity." >> look this is, we are frying to characterize this as the an isolated incident in paris. characterize home grown stuff in north america. remember the attack on the parliament. in ottawa. the hatchet attack in new york. aepisodic experience. this is not a war with an end. this its a cancer. and a sliver of islam that will be affecting us for decades. one of the problems we have. i have heard this. extremely frustrating. as a former practicing ear. it is people talking abut thout as a failure. when you are 15 years into a campaign. you are dealing with tens of thousands of cases. across north america and europe.

the standard for success is not one of them goes south. that its a misunderstanding of what is going on, don. what's going on is we are no longer in a war on terror. we are dealing with a cancer within society that will take decades to resolve. >> it has been said this attack was different than, than, attacks that we have seen. do you agree with that? >> i agree completely. what we saw in ottawa. what we seen other places. we see lone wolves. possibly deranged people. the kouachi brothers were calculated. they were cold. they knew what they were doing. they had professional training. and they had links to aqap, al qaeda in the arabian peninsula. kouachi said that al-awlaki financed him. he had contact with the radicals. it should scare america, europe, we will see more blow back from

isis. >> mia, he mentioned kouachi brothers you. are not surprise they'd are brothers, are you? not at all. the doctor and i wrote a small article after the attack in boston where we showed that siblings very often cooperate and work together in terrorist movements. sometimes at the same operations, some times tag teaming it. one of the way is a terrorist group is enable to ensure the operatives are not going to change their mind at the last minute. they're not going to, you know, decide, i really don't want to do it. because the it is one thing to let the terrorist group down. it is a whole other issue to let a family member down. a way of keeping operational secrecy. and a way of ensuring that the attack will be carried out successfully because you know you can trust your family. >> paul, the idea that the brothers could be part of a

larger sleeper cell, too, just waiting to be called into action. >> an interesting question. >> perhaps. >> sorry. these brothers, were in 2011, in yemen perhaps recruited into a plot by al-awlaki then. more than three years have passed since then. the question, did they put the plot on ice. reactivate it for some reason. or was this more from their own steam, their own volition. they decided to do this themselves without perhaps a little encouragement from al qaeda and yemen. not clear at this point, don. >> barak, what should we read into the fact that this was a kosher grocery store targeted today? >> radical jihadists always talked about targeting jews. muslims are indoctrinated that the jews are the enemy. look back into historical islam,

muhammad fought three jewish tribes and the present, attacks against palestinians by israelis. we have a long string of anti-semitism from the muslim and arab world. >> what's going on in europe and maybe in france. specifical specifically. mentioned an incident in a jewish or kosher store. muslims there don't feel that they can fit in. what is happening here? >> you know, i think there is a combination, one of the things that reza aslan said on your show last night. we have a whole segment of disaffected, society, and a segment of the society. i think it is important just to point out. i will gently disagree with mr. barfi. i don't think it is all muslims in france. a lot of muslims in france that are well assimilated. they're, they participate as french citizens. one of the things you mentioned earlieren the program is that the kouachi brothers objected to

the fact that the immam was encouraging his congregation to participate in the french elections. i think we want to distinguish the fact that there is a small segment within french society that is very vocal and dangerous segment. we are seeing people who are treated in many ways, you know, as you said yesterday, it's their ferguson. that these are people who are disproportionately in jail, incarcerated, poor, they don't have the same opportunities. and they definitely don't feel that they are part of the society. and they are on the outs. and so, these kinds of extremist attitudes feed upon that. but i also did want to emphasize that i don't think it is all muslims in france. >> do you want to respond to that, barak? >> i didn't say all muslims in france. it's, it's -- a small population of the muslims in france. look, don, i have lived in france. i have lived in southern france the most populus areas for

arabs. i have heard them, they smoke hashish for hours. one arab from algeria once told me he tried to get a hotel in northern france. when he gave his name over the phone, he said the hotel is booked because he had an arab name. there is a lot of discrimination against these people. some people sit in cafes and are frustrated. some people become like sarkozy's former justice minister, an arab, moved him to the top, most of the guys sit at the bottom of society and have grievances. some, a small minority, radicalize and become jihadists like the kouachi brothers. >> we're out of time. that will have to be the last word. thank you everyone. appreciate you coming in. tensions at a boiling point, muslims/non-muslims across europe. is america next? we'll ask the experts when we come right back. no matter who you are,

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>> the terror attack on "charlie hebdo," the hostage crisis in the market in paris. is all of this the tip of the iceberg. can we stop terror from spreading across europe and the world. cnn's martin savage has more now. >> reporter: march, 2004, bombs strike commuter trains in madrid killing 191 people. spanish authorities blame an al qaeda-inspired terrorist cell. may, 2013, a british soldier is

hacked to death on a busy london street in broad day light. his two attackers, muslim converts, claciming an eye for n eye. and paris, 2015. just three examples of three different european countries seeing the same sort of terror, the question is why. >> there have been these seismic changes on the continent. culturely, racially politically. >> reporter: reza aslan says europe has seen immigrants, causing europeans to feel culturally threatened. an ugly rise in anti-immigrant, anti-muslim sentiment. last month in germany, thousand marched in the anti-muslim protest. anti-immigration political party are gaining popularity. tensions among the muslim/non-muslim populations of europe have reached a boiling point. while the vast majority of

muslims want nothing to do with the fundamentalists, aslan told "cnn tonight" the climate is a perfect recipe for terror recruits. >> the muslim population in europe for the most part tend to be lower middle-class, economically, socially, politically marginalized, dispossess they'd have an identity crisis they don't feel french, don't feel algerian, don't feel british, don't feel pakistani. that's why they become such easy bait for organizations like isis, or al qaeda. >> reporter: if you think the danger is limited to europe, experts say think again. two years ago, i reported on the growing recruitment of young americans, somalis in minneapolis. by the terror group al-shabab. >> how many young people have been taken from the community for recruiting? >> 30-40. that is the most-often asked question. i think nobody can nail down. >> look europe but not on the

same scale, america has a population of poor, disenfran choose itted muslim youth who expert fear could be persuaded to fight americans not in overseas but in the local mall. >> with the way the internet changed all of our lives it is not e no longer necessary to meet some body in al qaeda to get training and inspiration to conduct a terrorist attack here in the united states. some one can do it in their pajamas in their basement. >> reporter: as authorities in paris pick up the pieces across europe and many fear the ongoing cultural clash will soon fuel more violence. the only question -- is where? martin savage, cnn. >> want to bring in roger cohen, "the new york times" op-ed columnist "the girl from human street" author. and steven fish, professor of political science at berkeley. i spoke with reza aslan, you saw part of it in martin's story, last night i speck oke to him.

he said europe is facing an i dent team crisis, anti-muslim backlash, and it is leading to violence, muslims against europeans, what is the assessment of the situation? >> i think there is a combustible, explosive situation in europe right now, don. and the recent attacks in france, have just -- redoubled that. you have jewish communities feeling under threat, attacked. during the gaza war. in the summer. now this attack in the supermarket. muslim communities feeling marginaliz marginalized. alienated. you have anti-immigration movements rising. i think we are seeing the beginning of this. on the brink of a very dangerous period in europe. >> steve, you, from the research, you said europe has had a hard time integrating our faiths. europe was, was, pretty christian with a small jewish

minority. in recent decade has it become muslim. americans are used to multiculturalism, multireligious society. >> that's right, don. the united states is regarded by many muslims around the world as a more hospitable place to live than europe. one of the reasons is that the united states of course is a nation of if grants. we embrace multiculturalism. people can come with whatever tongues or faith they practice. be comfortable. feel lake they can be americans. we have to remember that is a long part of our history. been a part of our history for a long time. in europe it has been in recent decade that there has been a great deal of immigration. of people who are not predominantly, who are not christian or jewish. so it is just, just been a few decade. europeans have been dealing with this. >> want to read this to you then. brings it perfectly to you. a tweet from rupert murdoch. he writes, maybe most muslims

peaceful. until they recognize and destroy their growing jihadist cancer, they must be held responsible. what do you think of that, steve? >> well, it is kind of odd, actually. to hold all muslims responsible for -- for acts that most muslims despise. would be like saying, that, that, oh, take christian terrorist organization, in uganda, joseph koni's lords resistance army, bunch of crazy fanatics who call themselves christian fundamentalists, their acts of terrorism, kill tens of thousand of people. to tweet all christians will be held responsible for their acts of terrorism. really doesn't make much sense to me. >> roger? >> i do hold muslims responsible to this degree. i don't think that we can solve this problem, don. until moderate muslims really speak out. really say, this is not our religion. this is not something we can accept. absolutely barbaric. the murder of innocents. an attack on western

democracies. and the freedoms we all stand for. we are now part of these societies. we are living in them. until they speak out ein that way. i don't think we will see much progress. i think that is a responsibility they have. you asked a pretty direct question, last night. to a muslim human rights lawyer. you asked him -- if he was a supporter of isis. and he gave a very vague, wishy-washer answer. why can't a moderate muslim like that just come out and say, these guys are slitting the throats of western journalists, they're raping and slaughtering in iraq and syria, and i personally abhor this and do not support them. no, we got a very vague answer. and as long as moderate muslims are giving vague answers to what we are seeing going on in paris and elsewhere, the situation will only get worse. >> glad you picked up on that. context is everything. it was a reason for that question. there was a very nebulous answer before that. so, but, moderate muslims will

tell you, and they have told me. and if you are on social media, roger, i am sure if you go on now. they will, you are going to get this. we speak out all the time. no one is listening. no one is paying attention to it. >> well, some speak out. and, in tunisia, elsewhere. they get killed for speaking out. clearly it can be dangerous to speak out when you have -- radicals, murderous radicals, of this kind. it may well be true that moderate muslims speak out more than is recognized by people like me. and perfectly ready to concede that. certainly we have seen the leader of the muslim community in france. speaking out very loud and clear. against what's been happening. but i don't -- i don't get the feeling that -- there is any body, there is no one person in the muslim world who has come to incarnate a stand against this kind of ferocity and savagery.

look, ghandi was killed by a hindu because he stood up and told hindus that the kind of violence they were perpetrating against muslims had to stop. >> i have got to run, roger. thank you, roger, steven. will you come back, please? >> sure. >> sure. >> thank you, jenltlemen. appreciate it. coming up the siege of the kosher grocery store. clues in the carnage. a former delta force commander breaks it down for us. [ speaking foreign language ] i'm either away from my desk or on another call... ... please leave a message and i'll get back to you... ... just as soon as i'm available. thank you for your patience at this busy time. join us for stargazing with discovery at sea. enjoy cruises from four ninety-nine during our 50th anniversary sale. call your travel consultant or 1-800-princess. princess cruises. come back new.

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>> that was a very violent end of the siege of the kosher grocery store in paris that resulted in the death of one

paris suspect in a hall of bullets. a female suspect on the run tonight. what can we learn from that video? let's talk about it now with lieutenant colonel, and military analyst, retired delta force commander. good evening, kol necolonel, ho doing? >> good to see you. >> that video remarkable. 2 26-year-old woman only survivor of two raids. remains at large. french authorities, conducting a massive manhunt to find her. what can you tell us about the woman in the search? >> don, before i say that. you have to understand a hostage rescue is the most difficult operation law enforcement or military can execute. so the woman, i believe, when you saw the man, the terrorist rush out with his arms up. and he shot by the police who were in the breach sight there, and heap gets hit. he spins around. he can see the ak 47. on a sling around him. fling up in the air. just as the that happen. you see all the, the hostages

rush out. what that shows me is, the hostages knew at that point, that was the only threat left in the room. so my assumption is that woman was not in there anymore. she did not go out with the hostages. she probably slipped out, prior to -- to the isolation force getting into position. >> all right. you don't think, great. let's talk about. want to play the video. remarkable. really powerful. video, police ending the hostage siege at the kosher grocery store. let's walk through it. go through it here you. can see the actual terrorist himself. running into the barrage. see that in second. he is killed. there it is right there. and then the swat team. swarms into this grocery store. and you can see them obviously rushing in. there. and then, left of your screen now what you are seeing, you can see the hostages running out, as quickly as they can. and then, the last thing to

point out, is that there is an injured policeman. the s.w.a.t. team carries him out of the grocery store once they go in. what do we believe happened to this officer? >> well, don. one of my concerns is -- in france, they have an organization called the gign, the delta force, seal team 6 equivalent here in the united states. they initially were sent up north when the first hostage situation we thought when the two brothers barricaded themselves in the warehouse. they got committed. when you had the second hostage issue down south at the grocery store now. you had to bring in your next tier of forces to come in. and, one of my concerns is, when you saw this massive police entrance at the bridge point. no one ever entered the breach. they froze in the breach. and you can see the officers, crisscrossing each other. while they're shooting.

i will, i am going to go out on a limb and say, those police officers, one of them was probably shot by their own man. because they did not follow their feelings of fire. and i counted up to 71 shots, fired into that store, with not very well aimed shots. so, that's concerning for me. >> you said, it's very difficult to carry out. lieutenant colonel james reece. thank you. >> thank you, don. >> we'll be right back.

11:00 p.m. on the east coast. i'm don lemon. one terror suspect. a woman on the run tonight after twin raid in france. the first killed the brothers, authorities blame for the "charlie hebdo" massacre. the second, the alleged hostage taker at a kosher store in eastern paris. his death and the release of some of the hostages, captured in this dramatic video from