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> the world watched as dozens of international leaders marched arm in arm. but what about leaders from the united states? washington explains president obama's absence. also ahead this hour a disturbing twist in a nigerian terror attack. witnesses say a bomb was strapped to a girl as young as 10 years old. also a big piece of the puzzle is recovered in the airasia flight investigation in the past few hours. we will talk about what the flight data recorder could reveal. hello and welcome to our vow viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm natalie allen. there have been two important developments in the crash of flight 8501. crews located both of the
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plane's black boxes. one has already been pulled from the sea. indonesian officials say divers discovered the flight data recorder under water beneath one of the jet's wings. officials are confident they low the location of the other black box, the cockpit voice recorder. it's not yet been retrieved. both devices are critical in helping investigators determine why the plane went down two weeks ago with 162 on board. we will take you live to jakarta for a report in just a few moments. we will have analysis from an aviation expert as well. as far as what the data recorders may reveal. in france almost 4 million people spoke out in one single clear voice. no to extremism. no to hatred. no to terror. just days after a massacre and hostage standoff in paris, the city was the site of a huge unity rally, one of many across
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france. that video there gives you a sense. and also the leaders that came arm and arm. more than 1 million people took part in the march of the capital. it was led by dignitaries of more than 40 countries and people who lost loved ones in the attacks. they were there, as well. it was a peaceful crowd. but also an enthusiastic one. france's interior ministry called the turnout unprecedented. this is how it went down and how cnn covered it. >> reporter: as many as a million people look at them here hundreds of thousands collected already, expected to take part and they want to send a message. terrorists who gripped this country for three days will never win. >> reporter: world leaders are here ranging from the prime minister of israel to mahmud a
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abbas, the german chancellor. >> france has declared war. >> you can see right there in the middle of your picture, three statues of mythical women. that is what this country and the world is standing together to defend. >> what they're obviously showing is that in the aftermath of what happened here over the past couple of days is that france as a nation is not going to allow itself to be divided. they want to show unity and that's what this rally is about. >> i was born as a muslim. i may disagree with you, but i would die defending your right to say it. >> in the after glow of the demonstrations french president francois hollande is meeting to discuss security in his country and investigators are continuing to look into the back ground of the gunman who carried out last week's attacks.
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cnn's senior international correspondent jim bittermann joins us live from paris. jim, certainly after so many people were brave to come together on sunday they will be looking to see what the government is going to do to help protect them come this monday and beyond. >> reporter: that's right, natalie. we had the feel-good moment yesterday. the headlines reflect the feel-good moment freedom on the march it says. "france stands up" is the headline this morning. this one says "we are one people." that remains to be seen. there were some different strands of that one people certainly evident in the march yesterday. now today, the question is what is the government going to do? we had an emergency meeting going on at the president's office right now.
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we heard yesterday a hint of what may be happening. the interior ministers of the european country plus the united states and canada all met yesterday and decided, among other things to crack down on the internet. these internet sites are used to recruit young people and to promote the messages of the various terrorist groups. and as well manage the europeans have decided is that in the 16 nation group that they're going to reinforce internal border controls, as well as ex-ternal border controls. we don't know whether the frontiers of say france are going to be reestablished. but in fact that's what the interior ministers have somewhat agreed to.
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this morning, we just saw minutes ago the prime minister on television and christiane amanpour is going to have an interview with him later on today. in any case he was saying exactly the same thing, that they are going to toughen up the rules on these internet sites that are used to recruit young people. >> is the feeling that they can do that that they can carry it out? >> reporter: i think we've already seen that the amateurks do that. overnight, there's a group known as anonymous attacked terrorist sites and shut down a few of them. i think there is a feeling that there is something they can do. they're asking for the cooperation of the internet companies. one of the ironic things natalie, is the internet was established in the first place as a device for military use. it was a device for the
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authorities to use. and here in the last few years, we've seen that the terrorists have turned the internet into something, a tool that they can use against the authorities. >> they certainly are doing that. so the investigation continues, as well, as to how investigators didn't know that these three were about to carry this out. but we'll continue to look at that as well. jim bittermann on what looks to be a very busy day of people getting back to business in paris. we hope it's a safe week for them. u.s. secretary of state john kerry will be going to france thursday. kerry also answered criticism that there were no top obama administration officials at the unity march there in paris. he said the u.s. has been deeply engaged with france and that many from the u.s. embassy participated in the march. more on that later in our program. and we'll talk with
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"newsweek"'s editor. we learn to our other top story now, breaking. the two key discoveries today in the java sea, both the black boxes from the downed airasia flight have been found. a search and rescue team have recovered one of them. cnn's david molko joins me with much more. david? >> reporter: natalie, the weather proving to continue to be difficult here in jakarta and reports from the search zone that the weather is once again proving challenging for the search. waves are two to three meters on the surface and strong winds, as well. divers at the moment we're hearing are being pulled out of the water. the discovery of the flight data
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recorder a major break through today. it was found under the wreckage of the plane's wing recovered by four divers. the other black box, the cockpit voice recorder we're told by one of the top investigators, they are 100% sure where it is. it is just a matter of time before divers can get down there and recover it. certainly a big achievement here. not a celebration by any means, given the fact that 162 people lost their lives on board that flight. >> any information, david, on the condition of the flight data recorder and when we may see a picture of it? >> reporter: that will certainly become a very big part of what happened in the next few days. the condition of the night data recorder and whether it's fully in tact or whether it's damaged by water or fire.
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natalie, i have to tell you, having talked to investigators who do this for a living the condition, no matter what that condition is there is a very good chance they'll be able to recover the data off the way the data recorder is built, it's built with a crash survivable memory unit. the data they need is housed inside what looks like a cylinder and there are a few microchips. that is what records the plane's speed, altitude the headings the outboard temperature. all of those pieces to the puzzle that may help investigators figure out what happened to flight 8501. >> this is such a significant breakthrough david, but at the same time, it's eerie and so unfortunate that so many families still haven't gotten their loved ones back. is there any information on the
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search for the main cabin where they believe they will find many victims? >> reporter: certainly search authorities are optimistic now that they have found the flight data recorder they have found the tail they have found at least one of the wings that the fuselage of the plane is not far off. just for some perspective, though. the debris field is rather wide. the search chief saying from the location of the tail to the location of the flight data recorder was found about 1 1/2 miles or 2 1/2 kilometers. they are confident they are looking in the right location and will begin to find if other pieces the next few days. families saying don't forget about us. one gentleman we talked to lost seven relatives. he said please continue to search for the missing bodies.
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authorities have pledged that the search will continue until every single person on board is returned home. natalie? >> we certainly hope that's the next break through finding those people. thanks so much david molko. i'll talk to an aviation analyst about what they will be looking for and how long it will take before we learn. still ahead here we turn to other stories from around the world. back-to-back bombings have targeted a crowded nigerian market. we'll have more on that. also schools across pakistan are reopening this week for the first time since a taliban attack killed 150 people. also the declaration "we are charlie" seems to be everywhere. but should you have to open your wallet to display it? much more ahead.
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in paris. nearly 4 million people sent the message they would not let fear defeat them. joining me now is the middle east editor for "newsweek." janeane, your home is there in paris. can you describe what the atmosphere has been like over the past 24 hours, that visual we just saw there was quite stunning. >> it's been an incredible time to see this the solidarity between the french people. it really has been one of the largest gatherings since the liberation since after world war ii. so there's been a great sense of coming together, of unity, of from equality. what we have to face now, it's monday morning in paris, it's back to work and reality, it's back to how we're going to deal with the problems both domestically and internationally
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in terms of the rising terrorism and the threat of homegrown terrorism. here in france and in europe and in fact, the world. >> and how does this last day compare to what in your perspective, people experienced last week? have they moved away from that fear or was this just an emotional respite? >> to be honest i didn't -- i think the french are very stoic. they've lived through wars. they've lived through terrorism here in the '90s. i think that -- i didn't find panic. what i did find is that streets were in my neighborhood any way, there was more emptiness, more people stayed home. but i didn't find panic or fear as much as a wind of what do we do should we leave? i have read accounts on the internet. they haven't been confirmed, but there are more french jews who
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are planning to move to israel. and the other worrying thing for me as someone who follows terrorism in the middle east is that the recruitment for terrorists sites, there's been a surge since this has happened. but i think in general, the french are going to get back to their lives, they have to. we are all vigilant. i think that's very important. it hasn't gone away. french president francois hollande has had a crisis meeting this morning. there's been discussions about what we're going to do on a larger -- in a larger scope, the free zones, the open zones of europe interior ministers are discussing them. i know david cameron in the uk is thinking about this. everyone is thinking how do we contain our boarders? and also more importantly, what should we do remembering that the terrorists were homegrown, french born terrorists how do we contain what's already here?
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how do we control it? how do we understand them? i think for me that's the most crucial thing. if we can understand them then we can come to terms with this. there has to be more than a reconciliation. there really has to be a comprehension of what lies behind these attacks, the history, the context of why it's happening and then we can combat it. >> you have reported extensively on the plight of many poor disenfranchised muslims there in france and paris. so what is your perspective on how france responds to reaching out in a way that brings them in and helps prevent the easy plucking by terrorist recruiters to get these young people to do their dirty work for them?
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>> natalie, in 2004 i spent about six months researching the integration and assimilation of muslims into european society. i concentrated on france germany, britain, and some scandinavian countries. what was -- i spent quite a bit of time going to the suburbs, talking to people trying to understand what their lives were like their frustrations, their alienation. even though they were born here in france many do not feel french. they feel extremely alienated from not just the capital of paris, but french life. it is as i said before very difficult. france is at a very critical juncture right now. economically politically, we're very fragile. we were fragile before these attacks, and this will exemplify it. but what i did find talking to
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these young people and old people and people who had been born in north africa particularly and then come here and their children or grandchildren, there was a keen sense of a divide that they did not feel part of a society. as americans, i think that's very hard to understand. because america is an immigrant country. people came people do come and i think it's much easier to absorb to assimilate, to integrate into the society. here there is a colonial past as there is in america, of course. but there is a colonial past which rears its head and that's great feelings of frustration, which does breed radicalism. now, how do we work with this? as always in any situation, it's about education. reconciliation and healing only
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comes with the knowledge of what has happened in the past, and what can be done. my fear now, frankly, as someone who -- i'm american and i'm french from both nationalities, is what's going to happen in the future in terms of extremism. not just radical muslim backlash. in fact i fear more the right wing backlash. i'm afraid of attacks on muslim communities and mosques. i'm afraid of political extremist groups using this as a huge opportunity to own this situation. so i think it's very fair to say here in france it's a time of great fragility. one of the reasons people were so jubilant people were really saying we're going to unite, we're one country.
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at least three people were killed 43 injured in nigeria after two suicide bombers targeted a market sunday. the attack comes one day after another bombing killed 20 and injured 18 at a nigerian market. the explosives were strapped to a girl as young as 10. as sickening as that is to imagine. investigators believe someone detonated the bomb remotely. boko haram continues to be the suspect. the islamic militant group killed up to 2,000 people in the past week. that attack could be boko haram's deadliest yet. our correspondent nic robertson is covering this story for us. he's live for us now. nic, it just seems that there is no stopping boko haram, and it's just baffling why not?
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>> reporter: the attacks seem to be getting bigger in the past week or two in scale, and in frequency. and in barbarity. if you look at the two suicide bombs on saturday and sunday using young girls as apparently unwitting carriers of these suicide vests and detonating them remotely. it's the town of baga where the attack started on the 3rd of january. people say they woke up that morning hearing gunfire and explosions. they thought the army was training. then they saw the soldiers from the army outpost on the run, fleeing that base had been overrun. then they saw hundreds of boko haram members entering the town on trucks and vehicles. they said thad tried to fight them but realized they were
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outmanned and outgunned. so this witness went into hiding hid out for three days until boko haram moved on to surrounding villages. he witnessed what he thought were as many as 3,000 bodies. at one time he said walking along a road there for about five miles where there were bodies all the way, he was having to step past the bodies. we're hearing similar accounts from international aid organizations. the army is indicating that they think this may be the biggest single attack by boko haram. so this appears to be an escalation in their tactics and one that is very significant, because that fishing village very close to the border with chad. again, it gives boko haram much better access to the border with chad there, because they have now overrun the military post in that town there. natalie? >> this comes right before an election there in the country.
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so what is the government saying and what is the international community's involvement in trying to support nigeria and pushing boko haram back? >> reporter: well the army has said that they managed to put down an attack by boko haram in the capital on thursday and friday. now, this town is a significant town. it's the state capital and lies between the two towns where there were the young female suicide bombers on the same main highway. so you have this geographic connection on this major highway in the country. the army was able to put down that attack. but in the town of baga the army is having to consider how they're going to have to retake the town. the town has been razed and burned out. it's put about 30,000 people to
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flight so the army and the government are having to deal with tens of thousands of displaced people. many where that attack was, killing 20 people with the young female suicide bomber on saturday. so at the moment the army and government is not able to go back into the town of baga to regain control of it there. and it throws into question very much with the elections coming up just weeks away now, is there going to be a heightened run of violence perpetrated by boko haram in an effort to you know if you will try to destabilize the political situation and create an environment where in territory of the northeast of the country where boko haram is strongest, that people will be able to go safely to the polls. it's raising questions like that natalie. >> we've been focusing on the fear of the parisians and people in france and can imagine the fear of the people that live there in northern nigeria. nic robertson following these
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you're watching cnn live coverage. hello, again. i'm natalie allen. our top story is france where nearly 4 million people delivered a message of unity while marching in cities and towns across the country and especially here in the streets of paris. days after the attacks that killed 17 people, world leaders families of the victims and
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citizens came together to defy any terrorist threat. and there is new information about the gunman this man who carried out the attack on the grocery store. france radio reporting investigators found isis flags and weapons in an apartment rented by amedy coulibaly. authorities say he killed four hostages before police shot and killed him. the targeting of that grocery store have left many french jewish communities afraid. the israeli prime minister and french president attended a vigil. according to the times in israel there are some 600,000 people in france's jewish community. 7,000 emigrated to israel last year the largest single year of movement since the founding of the israeli state. and israel expects 10,000 french
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em immigrants this year. >> natalie, france has the third largest jewish community in the world, behind israel and the united states. and the jewish agency an organization that helps jews emigrate to israel says they're going to see a sharp increase in the number of immigrants. in 2013, there was 3400. last year, 7,000. this year they're expecting 10,000 people. they had a fair on sunday for people to come and look about coming to israel. they said hundreds of people showed up and to get information about making this trip. although this process i need to say is controversial, where a jewish person can come to israel and get instant citizenship. for a palestinian refugees many of them are still waiting to return to their homes. natalie? >> yeah and people there, have
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they been interviewed since last week about what they think about more and more people leaving paris now? >> a lot of people in paris as we've seen reported is they don't feel safe there anymore. a lot of them say that the attacks, that these increasing attacks are making moving to israel more desirable. they have a lot of people coming here making new lives here in israel. this is something that is welcomed by the government here. the prime minister benjamin netanyahu said israel is a safe haven for them. a politician here also urged french jews to emigrate to israel. so there is -- they want to say that israel is open. they're receptive. but if they choose to remain in france they are going to try to
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provide support for the jewish community there. >> ian lee for us. criticism is mounting against the u.s. government for not sending a high level official to the marches in paris. secretary of state john kerry will now visit france on thursday. mr. kerry called complaints about the lack of a senior american presence "quibbling." he said the u.s. offered help to france from the very beginning of the crisis. a short time ago, our jim sciutto asked one french analyst his perception. >> reporter: were the french people disappointed by that? >> well i would say clearly yes. because if you remember after september 11 when president jacque chirac was the first to come and visit the u.s. after this massive attack. well actually in this circumstance on the other hand what we can say is that the
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visit was extremely rushed for leaders and we all know that the u.s. is having very strict security and safety rules. and that obviously i would say moving the u.s. president in this place in such a record time would have been hazardous as much as it was for the others. >> cnn national security analyst bob baer did not hold back when asked his opinion. >> security in a situation like this is -- depends on the host government and that would be the french. you know keeping standoff convoys. the secret service is close protection but the real true protection is provided by the french and they're clearly capable of doing that. i think there was zero risk to the president. and i think it's a huge mistake because the french are key partners in the so-called war on terror and they are crucial for the fight in africa against al
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qaeda. they're also very important in fighting isis and syria. so i think it was a serious mistake for the president or at least the vice president not to show up. >> so where was secretary kerry during the march? he was in india for an entrepreneurship summit he says the u.s. committed to some time ago. two key breakthroughs today that could lead to answers about what brought down airasia flight 8501. both of the plane's black boxes have now been found. and one already pulled from the java sea. indonesian officials tell us the recorders was found beneath the jet's wing. right now that recorder is on a ship heading to jakarta, indonesia for processing by investigators. the cockpit voice recorder has been located but not retrieved. officials say that device is still under debris but they do believe it can be recovered
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easily. for more now on this let's bring in jeffrey thomas via skype, the editor and chief of airlineratings.com. jeffrey, we have talked before and i've put you in the difficult position of trying to guess or speculate what happened to this flight. and now they're about to have concrete evidence. what will this night data recorder show? what crucial questions may it answer? >> well the flight data recorder will of course tell us -- there's about 88 parameters sometimes more depending on the model. that will tell us -- that's the heart beat of the airplane the system the engines, sensors, its attitude its speed, altitude all those things are measured. the cockpit voice recorder will tell us what was going on in the cockpit, what were the pilots
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seeing what were they concerned about? what we don't know is what happened after they lost contact. and i would imagine the pilots were trying to save their aircraft. and this will give us fine detail of their efforts, what they were seeing were they fooled by their instruments, by their radar, did they get caught in a situation that they weren't expecting? did the flight control system of the airplane behave correctly. by the end of the week if everything goes well, we should have all of those answers. >> my last guest a couple of hours ago estimated it could take weeks for a preliminary report. do you expect it will become
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evident sooner than that hopefully? >> that's a very good point. the downloading of this data depending on the condition of the black boxes, can take two weeks. my estimate of friday is a best case scenario. i think there's an enormous amount of global pressure on the indonesians to produce critical information we need to know, the industry needles to know. there are more than 6,000 of these planes flying across the globe, doing five and six flights a day. we absolutely have to understand the industry needs to know exactly what happened because there is a question mark about the flight control system, like we had with air france 447, did it -- what actually happened there? so i would say the indonesians will produce this information at a very rapid rate. >> hope so.
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holding class again. the public school reopened today for the first time since the december 16th attack. 150 people were killed most of those were children. the building has been painted to prepare for the students to come back. but the trauma of course lives on for these students who are very brave to go back to their school. michelle stockman joins us live now with more about their thoughts michelle of going back to school after such a horror occurred there. >> that's right. there's tight security around the school today.
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your back, and this is your blood? >> yes. >> reporter: so tell me why did you decide to keep this? >> reporter: wounded in body, but not in spirit. at least not that he'll say out loud. this 15-year-old was shot in the back while protecting two classmates from taliban gunmen on a murderous rampage in the school's auditorium. he saw close friends die in the most gruesome and horrifying way. >> mostly one of my friends was shot in his face. >> reporter: he shivers when he tells me about this moment. he and other survivors have turned to social media to share memories of those they lost. at least 145 people, 132 of
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which were children, were killed in just a few hours. the majority of his 10th grade class was wiped out. but he says he's excited to go back to school, a decision echoed by his proud, defiant mother. he's very brave, my son, she says. the taliban is spreading fear and terrorism, but we are not afraid. god willing, my son will go back to the same school and he will fight against them one day. i don't want to make my child afraid. that's the goal of military and school officials, too. to shore up security but make the campus seem normal again. behind me, you can see some of the efforts being made to get the school ready for students to come back. there's a metal detector set up. the walls are being fortified. barbed wire is being strung up. we're seeing a huge security presence. checkpoints on either ends of the road. inside the gates, there are memorials set up for the students and we're seeing parents bringing their children to go inside the school to see
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what has happened here. this son lost his mother in the massacre. she had been the principal for the all-boy's school for two decades. she was shot in the head, fighting against the militants to the very end, trying to save her pupils. and in his grief, outrage. that to settle scores with the military, the taliban killed innocent children. >> they were harmless. they weren't bringing harm to anybody. they were just there for the education. >> reporter: as the wounded school heals, it's become a symbol of resolve for a wounded nation battered by terrorism. >> certainly hope those student also be safe as they return to school. coming up here after a short break, the stars at the golden globes make a statement this year beyond what they were wearing. it was about what they were carrying and showing to the world.
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the celebrities at the golden globe awards in the u.s. had more on their minds than taking home statues when they had their ceremony. some including george clooney took time to remember the victims of the terror attacks in paris. >> today was an extraordinary day. millions marched around the world. [ applause ] and they were christians and jews and muslims. they were leaders of countries
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all over the world. and they didn't march in protest. they marched in support of the idea that we will not walk in fear. we won't do it. so je suis charlie. thank you. >> clooney received the lifetime achievement award sunday night. besides his remarks and other's remarks as well mirroring what he said clooney and his wife came with buttons that said je suis charlie. they weren't alone hardly at all. here's kathy bates, flashing the phrase on her phone. the hollywood press association produces this show. he said he would stand against anyone who fights free speech from north korea to paris. the phrase je suis charlie seems to be everywhere in the wake of the tragedy in france. items displaying the declaration
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are now for sale. some however, question if that's necessarily a good thing. >> reporter: je suis charlie, one of the most popular hash tags in twitter history. comedians and athletes displayed the logo in a show of solidarity. but not even a day after the attack on "charlie hebdo's" offices, ebay was full of items. the artistic director who created the logo tweeted that he regrets the commercial uses of it. it begs the question are these sellers raising awareness or profiting off of a tragedy? this is not the first industry to spring up around a catastrophic event. kays after the boston bombing, official jackets were available
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for sale on line. ebay took most of them down citing violations of their policy about offensive material. but now caset all cases are cut and dry. take for example the i can't breathe t-shirts. it's been worn as a form of protest against police brutality. one t-shirt seller said je suis charlie has been the most explosive shirt with a social message. it's reported astronomical sales, selling at least 1800 t-shirts versus their 300 to 600. another seller said they've had more visits in two days than all year. but is selling these items insensitive? it's an important message that needs to get out, and if they don't sell it, someone else will. >> and that's our news for this hour. thank you for joining us.
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the world united against terror. world leaders joining millions in france in an unprecedented show of solidarity. that country reeling from terror attacks that killed 14 people as isis repeats it threats against the west. live coverage breaking down the developments and what comes next. good morning. welcome to "early start." i'm christine romans. it is monday january 12th. 4:00 a.m. in the east. welcome to the viewers here in the u.s. and world. france and the world standing together in the wake of the deadly attacks on the satirical
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