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"oif. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. >> there is chilling new video of the paris terrorists calmly and confidently leaving the scene of the magazine massacre shouting tryiumphantly and shooting at police. there are new terror threats as new bombs ss screened for. as the terror victims are buried in france and jerusalem, a new issue of a charlie hebdoe" is about to come out with another defiant depiction of the profit muhammad on the cover. we are all standing by. i'll speak with republican congressman marco rubio, adam shiv shiff. let's start in paris. john berman is live with the very latest. >> reporter: good evening, wolf. right behind me of course was the attack on the offices of "charlie hebdoe" nearly one week ago. now we have a dramatic new look
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at the attacks. new video from an amateur you can see the scene as it unfolds in the midst of this attack. what i want you to pay attention to is the eerie, calculated calm of these men as they're in the middle of a battle with police. just released amateur video captures the gunmen moments after they carried out the attack on a satirical magazine's paris office. in the new video, one of the gunmen raises his left hand and reportedly yells, we have avenged the prophet muhammad. >> the gesture we see in the raised index finger is a popular jihadi signal which isis has popularized and widely used by jihadis and their supporters. >> reporter: cherif and said kouachi reload their weapons before they get in their car and start driving down a narrow
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road. when a police cruiser blocks the path the hooded gunmen open fire at police. the police car then backs up and the gunmen get back in their car before fleeing the scene. the video was released the same day the new issue of "charlie hebdoe" rolled off the presses. the first time since last wednesday's attack. this new issue will hit the newsstands wednesday morning. meantime the investigation continues into the three gunmen killed in the terror attacks. officials say cherif kouachi, one of the gunmen in the magazine attack and amedi coulibali, the gunman in the kosher market attack are linked to a radical. it was known that cherif moved in jihadist circles. in 2008 he went on trial in. cherif's brother said traveled to yemen in mid-2011 where it is
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believed he met anwar al awlaki and now the search for accomplices is on. this woman, coulibali's partner, is on the run. hayat boumeddiene is thought to be in syria. she is shown in istanbul's airport five days before the paris attacks. this french citizen faces terrorism charges after being arrested at the bulgaria/turkey border. the 29-year-old was allegedly in contact with one of the brothers behind the "charlie hebdoe" attack. while the investigation continues, france mourns the victims here. >> i was in a very moving news conference today that was held by the cartoonists who were putting out the new issue of "charlie hebdoe" to hit the stands in a few minutes. they were applauded as they walked in the room.
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there was also another moving event in paris, a memorial service for the three officers killed in the days of terror here. so many dignitaries attended. it was incredibly poig nanlt, a reminder of how many people here were lost. >> three of those police officers ten people at the magazine and four jewish men doing some shopping or working at the kosher supermarket in paris. john berman, thanks very much. those four murdered at the supermarket were laid to rest in jerusalem today, israel's top rabbi read from psalms. one was studying in france a 22-year-old employee of the kosher market a 45-year-old father of four and a 63-year-old whose two children are among the growing number of french immigrants moving to
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israel. israeli leaders said the victims were killed because they were simply jewish happened to be at that jewish supermarket. prime minister benjamin netanyahu telling jews israel will always be their home ready to receive them with open arms. >> there are lots of questions about how the paris gunmen were recruited, financed and armed. let's go to barbara starr. what are you learning about the terrorists' ties to al qaeda in yemen. >> good evening. u.s. officials are telling me they are now increasingly convinced that al qaeda in yemen, al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, aqap as it's known, was a major influence on both brothers. there are media reports that in fact aqap may have given them tens of thousands of dollars to carry out the attack. what we know now are two things. you will recall that cherif the younger brother, just before he was killed gave an interview to french media from where he was
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eventually killed by police. he said that anwar al awlaki financed his trip to yemen in 2011. al awlaki of course the al qaeda mastermind killed but always vowed to attack the united states. second thing we know their cohort, the gunman at the grocery store, he gave an interview, and he said that he gave -- pardon me. in a video, he said that he gave the brothers money to finish buying what they needed to carry out their attacks. what you see here are the forensics being done. investigators are looking at the attack working their way backwards. what does it take to make this happen? what kind of money could have been involved what kind of planning organization, other perpetrators what does it take to make all of this happen in france working their way backwards? how did it happen? they clearly feel there are other perpetrators out there.
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>> they certainly do. they are learning a lot more as the hours go by. barbara, thanks very much. there are also new concerns about hidden bombs and they're leading to security boosts at u.s. airports. travelers are facing random searches in greater numbers. let's bring in more on what's going on. pamela brown is with us. what are you learning? >> there are renewed concerns among u.s. officials that westerners may be looking at "inspire" magazine looking how to make hard to detect bombs. in light of this the department of home land security recently announced it is ramping up security measures at u.s. airports these enhanced measures went into effect a few weeks ago, including random passenger pat-downs and luggage searches once the passenger is already through security. this move is in part in reaction to this recent "inspire" magazine published by al qaeda in the arabian peninsula that came out in late december describing a new recipe for
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homemade bombs with household products. this has been a long running concern among officials that aqap is targeting aviation, concocting non-metallic ieds. the result is westerners are learning how to do this through this art kell and could perhaps struggle it onto a plane and perhaps one of those airports that doesn't have a full body scanner, one of the smaller airports in the u.s. >> because those articles are pretty specific. they walk you through this step by step. >> they walk you through, and the ingredients are readily available products here in the u.s. so that is i think so alarming to u.s. officials, that now aqap is giving new recipes to these westerners who may want to carry out an attack in the u.s. >> pamela brown, thanks very much reporting for us. joining us now, the new senior democrat of the house intelligence committee, congressman adam shiff of
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california. thanks for joining us. how much of a threat are these so-called hard to detect homemade bombs? >> they're a great threat. before these paris attacks, predominant threat we had from aqap wasn't a military style attack like we saw in paris but they would succeed what they've been trying to do, which is smuggling the bomb onto aircraft. you have them trying to figure out ways to make explosives that can bypass or defeat our detection at airports. this is a grave concern. >> are there active credible threats out there right now to the united states? >> well, i'd have to say yes. i mean there aren't specific threats so we don't have time place, that kind of level of specificity. but in terms of the overall threat imposed by aqap that's very real that persists today.
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we have to continue to work against that overseas and protect against it at home. and as we saw in paris and sydney in ottawa and elsewhere, you can't have a perfect defense. we're large open societies it's a real challenge. >> have there been any plots that have been thwarted recently? >> there certainly have been plots over the last several years that have been thwarted and varying degrees of threat information that have come in some more credible than others. but that's a constant process, and i think whether it's in the united states or in europe probably not a year goes by and sometimes not a period of months goes by where they don't have threats in some level of progress that are disrupted. >> we're told the ramping up of security at airports in the united states actually began a few weeks ago. here is the question. how long has the u.s. known about this latest round of threats, these hard to detect bombs? >> we've known about that for quite some time.
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i think you have reported over the last months and years about some of the changes in airport procedures, some of the things you're required now to put through the screener that you weren't required to before. we've been in a constant period of adjustment based on what we learn our adversaries are doing. this has been ongoing. i don't expect it will change. we're dealing with an adaptist enemy. every defense we put up they try to find ways to circumvent. we have progress we need to make at airports. i think there's a lot of things to improve our processes to make sure tsa is operating effectively and efficiently. there's a lot of work that has to be done. >> if the threat has been out there for a long time why wasn't security intensified not just recently but a while ago? >> well we try to make sure that the response is appropriate to whatever the threat is. if it's generalized threat information, you know we have to maintd maintain that
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difficult balance between wanting adequate security but making it functional. as we get more credible, more specific information, we are change on procedures, target procedures put more focus on particular airports. so we're continually trying to adapt. >> are smaller airports equipped to handle this kind of threat? >> some of the smaller errants don't have the same technology that detect the explosives. that's why i think the secretary is making adjustments to put additional resources or have more random inspections or use more sort of eyes on target if they don't have the tech technological capabilities. we're trying to put those in place wherever we can. the terrorists do have the goal of attacking some of the major hubs and aircraft so those remain the predominant threat. but there are vulnerabilities at some of the smaller airports. >> yes, there are.
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the two terrorists cherif and said kouachi yelling calmly we have avenged the prophet muhammad then they say something about al qaeda in yemen. has it been confirm thad this plot to kill these people at the magazine was an aqap based in yemen, brought? >> wox, it certainly looks like it was an aqap plot. the missing piece, though is was there some level of communication between that likely visit of at least one of the brothers to yemen in 2011 and the present? we don't know that yet. i mine it's possible there was communication in between. it's possible that they decided after the passage of time to commit this attack or possible apply ly there was a trigger. that still isn't determined. >> i know there's close collaboration between the french and the u.s. do they know how said kouachi was funded for the trip to yemen? there are reports he received $20,000 to get weapons. what do you know about that?
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>> we are getting a lot of information from the french but we have not yet been able to corroborate it ourselves. i really can't confirm anything except that we are engaged in an exchange of information with the french trying to share with them what we know about all of these suspects and any connection they may have to others. they've been providing us a lot of information. but it's not something we're able to confirm. >> are there six accomplices a part of this so-called sleeper cell still on the loose in france? >> i don't know wolf. it's certainly possible there are others, and there are a lot of questions we're looking at in terms of who took that video that was of the third suspect after the attack on "charlie hebdoe." was that on a tryipod? was somebody taking that? was there somebody who recruited them helped finance this? there's still a lot of unanswered questions. >> what about sleeper cells in the united states. what can you tell us about that?
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>> it's always a concern of us there are people trained or recruited present in the united states. i think you have to distinguish between a couple of different cases. we don't yet know which france is but there may be people who have been radicalized who have been given instructions who haven't decided whether to follow the sfrukss. and there may be others who are deliberately waiting for a period of time in which they'll no longer be under the supervision or surveillance of the authorities where they have more free range of action. so we have both concerns in the united states just as they do in france. >> the great concern is that there could be a huge surprise these sleeper cells could be sleeping for years fwr they're activated, right? >> that's certainly true. but i also think it's true that in a far less formal wieay there could be cells of people who are radicalized but haven't made the decision themselves if they'll act on these instructions or on their radicalization. we don't know yet what the
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occasioncase was in france if they were told to lay formdormant for a period of years or they got bang to france and decided they were involved in whatever they were in their personal lives and that caused them to act on these instructions. i imagine there's a whole sprekt rum of possibilities. we have to be on guard. >> was isis involved in this? >> you know that we don't know either. clearly one of the attackers is claiming an affiliation with isis. that could be nothing more than him saying he's associated with it because he was inspired by their video or their formation of will caliphate or it could be something more formal than that. at this point, we still don't know. >> you've seen the video. we're showing it to our viewers now, congressman. these guys are so methodical they seem so cocky, if you will. it's very frightening. >> it is. you know the way they killed that policeman who was lying on the sidewalk the cold-blooded nature of it, it sermcertainly looks like they have military training to act that coldly
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methodically the degree to which they were able to fire on the police vehicles. it certainly looks like they had some degree of training. >> what's the most important thing the u.s. does now? >> i think we have to do our best to determine what kind of an eye do we have on those who may have been radicalized overseas who are living at the margins of our society and that have flirted with radicalism. we have to make sure that none of them decide to act much as these attackers erer did in france. we have a lot of work to do in safe guarding our airports and i think the broader mission of attacking those who have mental health problems that may have easily tip into radicalism as well as working with our religious communities in the united states to make sure we have open lines of dialogue. it's a whole spectrum approach. >> congressman schiff, thank you. >> thanks. new clues in the hunt for a female suspect who fled before
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french authorities are hunting for accomplices in the paris terror attacks. there are new clues about a female suspect who made it out of france before the blood shed. brian todd is looking into this part of the story. what are you learning? >> new information coming to us from turkish officials and others information tracking the movements of hayat boumeddiene. the turks tell us they tracked
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her to the syrian border then she slipped away. there's new information about a man she traveled with tonight. a crucial piece of evidence, newly released surveillance video air nd turkish media showing hayat boumeddiene arriving in istanbul on january 2nd, five days before the "charlie hebdoe" attack. boumeddiene, the partner of paris kosher store gunman coulibali is an expected accomplice in the paris attacks. tonight tushish officials tell cnn they're doubling their efforts to track boumeddiene. they say cell phone records show boumeddiene slipped into syria and was already there by last thursday the day before coulibali was killed in the kosher store standoff. the man with her in the video in istanbul, the french newspaper lamond identifies him as being from paris. the paper says he could be connected to a separate jihadist cell. >> probably a foot soldier who
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was there to protect her, but again, in the islamic tradition, you don't see many islamic women traveling by themselves. they always have a male traveling with them. it just fits in with the street craft and trade craft to blend in. >> turkish officials tell us that boumeddiene and her travel companion engaged in tourist type activity for a couple of days then made their way to the turkish/syrian border. court documents obtained by cnn show hayat boumeddiene shown here practicing crossbow firing was involved in a 2010 plot with coulibali to break a terrorist out of a french jail. boumeddiene like her boyfriend got -- boumeddiene was the more radical one in the couple according to coulibali's former lawyer who said she complained in a call recorded by french intelligence that coulibali was not seerps. if she's embraced by isis the
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group her boyfriend claimed to support, what will they do with her? >> i think she'll be received by open arms by isis. i think shale project her as a hero hero wean. i think they'll do video with her speaking and it's possible she'll be involved in operations. >> hayat boumeddiene is presumed to be armed and dangerous and a capture or kill operation by the french or turks for her would be very risky. hayat boumeddiene is so valuable she's probably being heavily protected and deeply hidden. >> brian, you're getting some more personal information about this young woman. >> that's right. a neighbor of hers in a southern paris suburb told cnn hayat boumeddiene was always polite always wore a veil, was seen with her partner coulibali in in the neighborhood. a french newspaper reports she's one of seven siblings that her mother died in 1994 and she was placed in foster care when she
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was 8 or 9 years old. >> brian thanks very much. tom fuentes, you're here. there's chilling new video we've been showing our viewers. i want to walk through the video and have you explain what's going on. this shows after the slaughter that occurred at the magazine the getaway if you will of these two terrorists. let's look at this frame by frame. let's start with this. tell us what we're seeing. >> okay they come out. they just slaughtered almost two dozen people in the magazine. he's celebrating, holding up a finger which usually means one god, allah, playing to the audience on the rooftops bragging about what they did. his partner has a problem with the gun. he fixes it gives it back to him. he goes around he gives another awave to the fans up on the rooftops then goes. it just strikes me how calm just cold. >> when he's raising his finger,
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what does that mean? >> many believe it signifies one god allah. it's the signal. it's not the number one football team. but you see here how he's going to help him and fix what looked like a jam in his gun. then he goes around. he's wearing a load bearing vest which holds additional rounds additional equipment. then after playing to the audience they go to -- they leave. >> they keep screaming, we have avenged the prophet muhammad. let's look at the second video and go through it. >> he's got his partner's gun. he's checking it making sure it's still working, gives it back to him, takes his gun off the roof. they get back in the car, ready to go. >> they're just walking slowly. >> just stone-cold killers. no problems. >> they're going to start driving away. >> right. >> here's the third video. >> they start driving, and they encounter this police car up
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here. they stop and get out to shoot at that car. now, what you'll hear is the loudness of the ak-47s they're shooting. they are completely outgunning the officer in that car who retreats. he's like i'm not staying here. and we later see after they get back in the car and drive on the bullet holes in the windshield of that car. now, i can add most pistol rounds will not go through a windshield of a vehicle. ak-47 rounds are powerful enough to go through the doors and the windows of a car. so that's why we see these holes. >> then the car gets to the end there and makes a right turn. >> the police car backs up into another car. minor traffic collision. you see this car back up. they'll shoot first. shooting up the windshield. police officer retreats. he backs into the vehicle that's across the lane up there blocking traffic. >> you can't blame him for retreating. he's outgunned. >> no question about it.
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they get back in the car and they'll go up the road and go to the right of that car, down the boulevard, which we won't see. they'll make a u-turn on that boulevard and come back and encounter the other officer on the sidewalk. >> that's where we go to the fourth video over here as they got out of the car. >> they go around this van on one side, the other on this side. they encounter the police officer here. they wound him. he goes down. this is the muslim police officer. basically, they come up and finish him off, execute him point-blank on the sidewalk then go back to the vehicle. you see them here approaching. then the video lapoops back. they shoot him, go back to their vehicle and make their escape. what i thought from the beginning is they have not chosen this as their place to be martyrs. they want to fein fight another day, which is what happens. they fight two days later when we have the hostage taking at the market with coulibali and the two brothers holed up in the
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print shop. then when they are sure they have maximum police around them maximum media coverage worldwide, that's when they choose their place to become martyrs. >> i want to bring in paul cruickshank, our terrorism analyst. walk us through your analysis of what we just saw, paul. >> i think everything tom said is right. these are cool, calm collected, disciplined killers. it suggests strongly that they were trained overseas. we've reported that they are believed to have trained both brothers it seems in yemen with al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, presumably if that's the case it was there they learned these kind of gun handling skills this kind of discipline to launch these kind of attacks, to use these heavy type weapons which are difficult to find on the streets of europe. i think a very big question is where did they get all these heavy weapons? those included rocket launchers
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that they had as well. quite extraordinary and unprecedented to see this kind of urban warfare on the streets of a major european capital. >> i want to get to the analysis of guillen debray. he's a correspondent of french television tf-1. he's joining us from paris. i assume everybody has been studying this video all day, right, guillen? >> reporter: sure. >> what's your analysis? >> reporter: i think the video shows that of course the heavy weaponry of the killers. what is very interesting is right now they're in possession in the car of an rpg. they've decided not to use the rpg. the police were wondering why they haven't used it early on. we learned today that the reason is one of their targets -- i'm talking about the kouachi brothers -- was to after paris
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they wanted to try to hit an airplane in the iraqi airport with one of the three, if i'm not mistaken rpgs they had in their possession. so the goal was to escape paris after the killing of "charlie hebdoe" make their way towards one of the roads that goes around the airport and try to take down an airliner. this is why they haven't used the rpg before when they could have used it in this narrow street and hit the police. >> what's the latest you're hearing, paul? aqap al qaeda in the arabian peninsula involvement? >> the latest we're hearing is the brothers are suspected to have trained with aqap. the u.s. government believe it's likely they met with anwar al walka
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aawlaki, he would have wanted them to launch a plot in the west. al awlaki in 2011 was desperately trying to find european recruits for plots in the west. but i think we've just heard some really disturbing details, wolf the idea that they might have been trying to use this rocket launcher which they loaded at a certain point, to attack an airliner taking off or landing. those are disturbing new details. this plot may have been much more ambitious than perhaps we even understood. >> that is disturbing. stand by. i want everybody to stand by. we're going to hear from the senate intelligence committee member senator marco rubio. he's going to explain why the paris attacks are a dangerous transition in the overall war on terror. we're also covering a major development in the airasia crash investigation. ♪ ac/dc: "back in black" ♪
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marco rubio talks about how the paris terrorist attacks is changing. i asked him about his book and what details he's learning about the paris attacks. you're a key member of the intelligence committee and the senate foreign relations committee. do you have a good idea a good conclusion now, who is responsible for those people who were killed? >> we're learning -- obviously the french are the point people
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involved in the information. as they share the information, i know the u.s. is collaborating with them it will become available taos. this is an important moment in understanding the transition in the war on terror. traditionally the war on terror has been targeting the core of these groups primarily al qaeda and now isil. that remains an important part of it. the second element now is these individuals who sometimes aren't even traveling to the middle east individuals who are born abroad outside of the middle east raised in different countries but become radicalized in a mosque or online. that turns into activism. that is a very real threat for europe and everybody in the west, including the united states. it a new and emerging dynamic we've been warning about for a number of years which i think now is beginning town fortunately come to fruition. >> do you believe this was a coordinated cell, a plot not just two or three isolated so-called lone wolves who were inspired if you will to go ahead and kill these people?
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>> i think it was much more than a lone wolf attack. in terms of whether it was directed from an isil headquarters somewhere about time place and manner is different. but certainly this goes beyond simply a couple of disgruntled individuals. this is a coordinated, well-executed for lack of a better term, operation that they conducted. and i think it sets the sem plat for similar attacks elsewhere in the world in the future. >> so what should the u.s. be doing now? >> let's talk about what we shouldn't be doing. we should not be degrading our intelligence gathering capability. every time the debate comes before congress about putting restrictions on our intelligence program, i argue about the issue of homegrown extremism and the threat they pose. and if any of those incidents should happen in the u.s. god forbid the first question people will have is why didn't we know about it and why didn't we put a stop to it? >> how many americans have gone over there whether to iraq or syria or yemen, and coxme back to the united states and potentially represent a threat to this country? >> the effort mats are in the hundreds. we don't have an exact figure.
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we know there's an individual in florida that traveled, came back to the u.s. spent time here and went back again. my bigger point is certainly those individuals bear watching but you have individuals who perhaps have never traveled anywhere in the middle east who are radicalized online. the latest edition of "inspire" magazine an online magazine posted by al qaeda includes detailed instructions on how to build a nonmetallic explosive device which you could theoretically get on an airplane or something like that. you don't have to travel to the middle east anymore to become radicalized or gain access to this information and ultimately carry out an attack. >> we'll have more on my interview with senator rubio in the next hour including his thoughts on a possible run for the white house. we have much more ahead on the hunt for paris terrorists and their accomplices. we're going to tell you what we've learned as well as the newly revealed video where we hear the attackers' voices, we watch them fire at police. up next a major breakthrough at the same time in the investigation into the airasia jet crash. fofofofofofofofofofor fastidious librarian emily skinner,
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newly released video as the "charlie hebdo" gunmen made their getaway. stand by for that. also our aviation correspondent rene marsh is standing by. what are we learning? >> the flight data recorder has been downloaded. it has not been analyzed yet so we don't have all of the details of what was on it but this is a sign that it was in good shape. the cockpit voice recorder is in the process of being downloaded. these are two major developments
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because we now know we are a step closer to figuring out what brought down airasia 8501. this mangled, twisted metal is wreckage from airasia flight 8501. key evidence for investigators along with the two flight recorders pulled from the java sea. >> the recorders really are the key to understanding what happened in this tragedy. >> reporter: indonesian investigators will download and analyze the data to figure out why flight 8501 crashed. it will tell investigators what was happening with the plane, how fast it was flying at which altitude and if any systems failed. the cockpit voice recorder will reveal what the pilots were saying and which warnings were going off in the cockpit. >> were they responding appropriately, what was their decision making their state of mind when they were making the decisions? that's why the voice recorder is so critical. >> reporter: the recorders are
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located in this section of the plane, where they are less likely to be damaged. but when flight 8501's tail was hoisted out of the sea, the black boxes were not inside. they were found about a mile and a half away. divers may have also located the plane's fuselage. many of the passengers' bodies could still be inside. 48 have been recovered. they were originally seated throughout the cabin. more than 100 passengers are still missing. >> we expect that other people are continuing to assess the passengers which is quite important. >> reporter: and with thousands of a-320s in the sky, the ceo of airbus says figuring out what went wrong is critical. >> we will do whatever we can to support this investigation and make sure that all conclusions are drawn for the future. >> reporter: the faa also needs answers. >> certainly everyone in
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aviation is monitoring this including us to ensure that as more information is learned and as we learn more as a result of the investigation, should there be things that we should take a look at here in the united states absolutely. >> the voice recorder has enough space on it to record everything that was said every sound in the cockpit from the time the plane took off to the time that it crashed. investigators tell us wolf that we should get a preliminary report by the end of the month. >> rene thanks very much for that update. coming up new video taken moments after the paris magazine massacre that shows the gunmen calmly leaving the scene. and al qaeda instructors its followers on how to make hard-to-detect bombs. r helps support digestive health...and maintain...that word. you know what it tastes like in water? water! except this water makes you feel great. benefiber. now in stick packs.
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police and are outside their stolen car with their guns firing on a police car which backs away. the gunmen then escape. the horror of the paris attacks now as the u.s. is on a heightened alert amid that terrorists will try again to target a u.s. airliner. we're covering the angles with our correspondents and our guests including congressman ed royce. let's get straight to paris. cnn's chief national security correspondent jim sciutto has been on the scene for the last several days. what is the scene there, jim? >> reporter: wolf i'll tell you, one of the most shocking moments is to watch the gunman calmly and patiently reload their automatic weapons in broad daylight on a downtown paris street before they then encounter police again. you'll remember they were on the loose for two more days following that moment. just a clear sign of how much this was a shock and a surprise
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not only to the city of paris but to all of france. startling new video of the "charlie hebdo" attack under way. the gunmen said and cherif kouachi. later down the street you see them come face-to-face with french police. the moment before they executed a french policeman. it's a chilling change from six years ago when one of the attackers, cherif kouachi, covers his face when leaving court, proclaims his innocence. he was on trial for recruiting jihadists to iraq. >> translator: the whole thing was set up. we were young kids from the suburbs. we are passionate. there is nothing more. we did nothing wrong. >> reporter: he was found guilty
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and sentenced to prison. today, a contact of kouachi's was charged with terrorism in court in bulgaria captured there on his way to syria. bulgarian officials say that he was in contact with cherif several times and left with his son. authorities are still searching for this man spotted with hayat boumeddiene. he's believed to be part of the pakistani jihadi cell and is still at large. police from new york, washington and los angeles showed support. >> two police officers lost their lives there that day. what comes to mind here as you come to the memorial? >> it's just horrific. it's a real tragedy. i think law enforcement all over
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the world is grieving for the french and this is not a problem just for france or for europe. it's a global problem. >> reporter: "charlie hebdo" will come out with a new edition of its magazine tomorrow. we're learning new details about it including that it will include cartoons by some of those cartoonists murdered last wednesday in their newsroom. normally just 60,000 copies a week. there are going to be 3 million copies 50 times the normal run. almost one copy wolf for every one of those people who showed up on sunday to show their support marching through the streets of paris and other cities around france. a real important moment again tomorrow as france stands up to the threat of terrorists. >> the security is already tight, right? >> reporter: no question. measuring in the thousands, nearly 10,000 soldiers deployed around the country, another 10,000 police. that is a measure of the level
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of alert here. i will tell you, wolf and i think i told you this before the country is living. restaurants are full. people are out on the streets. the security is present but people are not cowed by this threat. they are doing their best to live their lives as they would even before these attacks. >> that's good to hear. jim sciutto, thanks very much. all of this has the united states on heightened alert raising new fears of terrorist efforts to try to bring down a u.s. airliner. our justice correspondent pamela brown is covering this part of the story for us. what have your sources told you? >> that dhs is ramping up heightened security. they are asking to create new types of hard-to-detect bombs with the goal of bringing down an airline or wreaking havoc at the airport. amid renewed fears of hard-to-detect bombs smuggled onto commerce flights, the u.s.
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is expanding random security checks of passengers at u.s. airports once they've already made it through airport security. those second checks at the gate could include passenger pat-downs and hand swabs for explosives. >> passengers cueing up in a security line and somebody's tried to bring a bomb maybe rudimentary device bomb and blow people up in the security lines. >> reporter: the stepped up measures are in response to the propaganda magazine "inspire" laying out a new recipe for nonmetallic bombs with household products. advanced technology is not available in smaller airports. >> aqap says even if it doesn't get through airport security enough fuss will be made about the people attempting to do this
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that it will spread terror in the west and their aims will be achieved. >> reporter: this move comes after enhanced security measures over the summer that put passengers on u.s.-bound international flights through additional scrutiny such as turning on their electronic devices to prove that they are not explosives. this is renewed efforts by isis to target u.s. government officials, dhs is stepping up security at government buildings as u.s. law enforcement is asked to stay on a heightened state of vigilance. officials i've spoke to today say there's a heightened concern among them that it's more plausible that someone could be influenced by events to tact out and as a result of this wolf certain cases are going through even more scrutiny than perhaps they did before. wolf? >> it's very very worrisome stuff. pamela thanks very much. let's talk about this. joining us is the chairman of
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the house foreign affairs committee, ed royce. your reaction to this report? it's pretty devastate. ing. >> it's very devastating. one of these terrorists was a roommate of the underwear bomber and was trained for the use of explosives. fortunately we've had three attempts that have all been thwarted to hit commercial airliners on the part of al qaeda and yemen but that doesn't mean that they are going to try to ramp it up. >> it's aqap, al qaeda in the arabian peninsula. >> that's the key concern for the u.s. government in terms of the organizations on the planet they have put the most effort into this and, as you have seen have developed quite a following. >> and they have the technology for these hard-to-detect bombs.
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>> so far we have thwarted those attacks but we should also know that their explosive capability is such that on the very day that the attacks were carried out in paris, on that day, 31 cadets in yemen being trained by the united states were attacked and killed just as they have attacked our embassy there. they took out a hospital in yemen. they use explosives on a regular basis. >> and the terrorist attack aqap? >> yes. >> i'm convinced that not only were they trained there, in 2011 one of the brothers that was involved there, we actually -- we actually sent the information to the french government. and they had for, close to four years, surveillance on him for that very reason. >> which brother? said? >> yes. >> that's the older one, 34 years old? >> yes. >> walk us through that again? >> he made that trip in order to get the training. and as part of that training
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was a roommate of the underwear bomber. the united states government found out about this. we transmitted that information over to the french authorities who then put him under surveillance and for close to four years he was under surveillance. it finally got to the point, so many of them so few of us. they hadn't seen anything for six months or so and they dropped the surveillance and that was before this happened. >> it was the united states that first learned about this said kouachi and shared that name with the french? >> that's my understanding. >> that's pretty significant. that's very significant. and so why would the french drop surveillance? >> because they are overwhelmed. they have some 5,000 of these -- of he individuals suspected of terrorist ties that they have to keep under surveillance and at some point, after monitoring day in and day out, it's so labor
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intensive that they say, okay this individual has gone a certain number of years without taking part in any hostile activity and they move on to some more immediate threat. that unfortunately, is what happened. there might be a change in the calculus on this. >> because these are sleeper cells that could be sleepy for a while, right? >> apparently that's the methodology, from what we're learning. >> are there sleeper cells in the united states? >> the suspicion would be that there are. >> dianne feinstein, she believes that there probably are. >> yes. and you consider the number of individuals who have gone into yemen in order to receive training you consider the number who have gone to fight with isis and then think about also as we've discussed in the past the fact that people come here on a european visa as well it is very very easy for people to gain access very hard to monitor them all. >> so they've stepped up security at u.s. airports.
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>> yes. >> although smaller airports may still be lacking in that security. that's very worrisome. what about international airports? >> that's the other big element in what is being done here. we are also especially in europe working with airport security there in order to preclear and have the same type of enhanced shall we say -- >> in other words, before a flight takes off for the united states do the security there but the host government has to approve of that? >> they do. but we're working much more closely now, not just on surveillance issues but also on airport security issues right now with european parliamentary and european governments. >> stand by. we have more to discuss. ed royce is with us. we'll be right back. these ally bank ira cds really do sound like a sure thing but i'm a bit skeptical of sure things. why's that? look what daddy's got... ahhhhhhhhhh!!!!! growth you can count on from the bank where no branches equals great rates.
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we're following the breaking news the dramatic new video that surfaced of french terrorist suspects cherif and said kouachi after their deadly attacks on the paris magazine "charlie hebdo." we're back with ed royce, chairman of the house foreign affairs committee. it's so killing, that new video that we obtained today. you hear these two guys yelling several times, we have avenged the prophet muhammad and then send a possible message to global terrorists. >> in the magazine "inspire" -- >> which is the aqap magazine? >> exactly. this is who they say funded their operation. but there as a caption, a bullet a day keeps the infidel away. as they put the photo of who
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they are targeting to kill and the chilling aspect of them going in there and then asking for the names, by name of each of these individuals who was on "aspire" magazine and then murdering each. >> these al qaeda terrorists seem to be getting stronger. where is the yemeni government? >> it's basically a situation with a failed state environment because so many of the institutions have come under the attack of the radical and as you consider as the institutions have been taken down the attacks on the military barrack, take out the hospital in town as i mentioned, the 31 cadets killed yemeni cadets that we were training. they are trying to create
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anarchy on the ground because when you have a failed state, you can pull off these types of attacks. that's why they are the number one threat. >> i worried about the u.s. embassy in the capital of yemen. you know what's been going on. >> yes. the embassy has been attacked before by this al qaeda franchise and i would say at this point, a lot depends on the international community to rest some kind of order in yemen. as you know this was the home of american-born anwar awlaki who was inspiring from yemen, people to commit themselves to jihad. now, he's been taken out but -- >> by a u.s. drone strike. >> by a drone strike. but if we could bring some measure of order out of that chaos there, we could do a lot. >> how do you do that?
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>> well what we're doing is working with those young cadets and policemen in yemen and going -- giving them the training and they are putting their lives on the line as they fight with these jihadists. >> the woman, hayat boumeddiene, the girlfriend or whatever she was of one of these terrorists, amedy coulibaly, she somehow, days before fled france for turkey a nato ally and then got into syria, even though she was well-known to interpol u.s. french presumably turkish authorities. >> what she managed to do was get herself to spain and then fly from spain into turkey and then managed to get into syria. now my guess would be that she's with isis in syria and we could probably suspect working on a video or who knows, we'll hear
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something. >> she wasn't just a girlfriend. she was a player in all of this right? >> and you saw a little bit of the aspect of that in terms of the pictures with her training with the crossbow and other weapons, clearly she was a jihadist. >> what else should france be doing right now? presumably there should be better cooperation? >> europe has to work on its border security. that's one of the issues that the parliamenteries have been working with us about. sharing between european states and, of course with the united states. and so all of this is not only relevant to france but yesterday in germany a newspaper was bombed by jihadists. so for all of europe now i think there's a heightened awareness of the necessity of sharing information on the jihads. >> and you're deeply concerned about potential security threats
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here in the united states? >> especially given the opportunity for people to fly here on a european visa. that's why the new steps to secure those airports that fly directly to the united states and make certain that the scans and the checking is done is an important step forward. >> most of the european countries are allies in the united states. you don't need a visa to come to the united states. should that be changed? >> this is the challenge. well i think it's a tough question because, can you imagine how many flights a day come out of europe? we're talking about tens of thousands of people flying here from europe. and so i'm not sure that it's practical to change that but i think the intelligence sharing could be ramped up and clearly we need to change a situation where you have people involved in jihad in the past and they are allowed, you know into society in the way that these
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young brothers were to make their way through society without the type of observation that's necessary. there has to be rethinking of this in terms of people who consider themselves jihad. maybe once you've attacked your homeland, you're not allowed back in. >> and you've shared the information that one of the kouachi brothers was actually known to the u.s. the u.s. told france about them watched them for a while and then stopped doing it and we know what happened after that. >> right. >> mr. chairman thank you for joining us. ed royce of california. just ahead, training funding, what exactly did the paris terrorists receive? and by whom? and are al qaeda and isis now trying to outdo each other with increasingly deadly attacks?
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we're following the breaking news in the paris terror attacks including growing signs the brothers who massacred a dozen people were inspired by an al qaeda leader in yemen. barbara starr is joining us. what are you picking up barbara? >> wolf it's beginning to look like the trail leads back to yemen more than three years ago. the u.s. officials now believe cherif kouachi, the younger brother, was the more ardent
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jihadi of the two but both were influenced by anwar al awlaki the group that has been at the top of the u.s. worries for years. >> we have been concerned because they have the ability to blow up airplanes. >> reporter: the obama administration right now is trying to confirm that cherif traveled to yemen in 2011 and metal awlaki and, if so, what transpired. he spoke to reporters saying -- >> translator: i was sent me, cherif kouachi, by al qaeda in yemen and al awlaki financed my trip. >> reporter: al awlaki was killed in 2011 in a u.s. drone strike. as the complexity of the terror attack they want to know how it was financed. the brothers may have had other
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help. amedy coulibaly, a colleague to cherif if this video claims he too, gave the brothers money for the attack on "charlie hebdo." and still, conflicting intelligence on whether both brothers went to yemen. the u.s. scouring for video or photos or any signs of a meeting with awlaki. the yemeni government claims that said kouachi surfaced east of yemen in sana where he received weapons training. >> never detonated a bomb you need to simply go train them in yemen and send them away and say, go do god's work. we don't want to hear from you again until you're in heaven.
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>> and so any linkages to yemen makes the u.s. worry about who else may be out there and who else might have gotten training from al qaeda in that country. wolf? >> barbara, thank you. phillip is joining us and philip mudd and peter bergen and retired colonel james reese. officials believe the kouachi brothers were influenced by anwar al alawmakerwlaki who was killed in a u.s. drone strike. do you think these terror fighters the threat they pose coming from yemen and elsewhere? >> sort of wolf but i think there are huge limitations. where we are with yemen today is not dissimilar from what i witnessed at the cia, tremendous
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money, training intelligence for example, about individuals but drone strikes that are based on intelligence there is diplomatic pressure during arab spring to get yemen to evolve. if you look at the problems that we've had in northern nigeria, somalia, afghanistan, now yemen, they are divided by tremendous unrest and civil war and jihadists can operate. we can provide all we want and come up with strategies but when you're dealing with countries by civil war, there's only so much you can do. >> and yemen is almost a failed state, right, colonel reese? is it the new afghanistan? >> wolf it is. you have afghanistan, yemen, libya that is out there right now, phil mentioned somalia. those are all failed states right now and yemen is the newest one on the block.
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>> peter bergen how dangerous was this man who was arrested in bulgaria who appears to have a connection with the kouachi brothers? >> it's not clear what role he played in this conspiracy. an 18-year-old turned out to be in school on the day of the "charlie hebdo" attack. let's go back to yemen for a second. it's running out of water, out of oil, it's the heavily armed nation per capita in the world. it's a country with not just one civil war but three civil wars. the shia group basically took over the capital back in the fall. to call it a failed state is almost too polite. this a country which is a perfect breeding ground for these kinds of groups and al qaeda and yemen can present itself as a group going up against the shia group and that doesn't -- certainly doesn't
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hurt them to have this narrative where the shia group is marched on the capital, wolf. >> philip you worked for france 24 the television station in france. you heard ed royce say that the u.s. gave information to france about one of these brothers after leaving yemen. the french watched him for a while but eventually gave up surveillance. that he is a significant development. >> it's quite damming for the french services. if they are told by u.s. authorities who to put surveillance on and then of course you get the creation of a sleeper cell or some members of a sleeper cell to disappear just long enough for surveillance to stop and that means the american intelligence services don't have that surveillance either. most of the information that we're getting on intelligence comes from sources here in the united states. for example, about the travel of say, kouachi to yemen. from the french, we're not
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hearing all that much. that's why we heard from the french prime minister so they can have a database that lasts longer than it does now and the domestic intelligence service, the dgsi to be able to put surveillance on these potential terrorists all of these radicalized french citizens that are apparently around you need more personnel that france does not have. >> it's interesting colonel reese, you have core al qaeda, isis trying to outdo each other with these attacks. that's so worrisome. >> wolf it is. but one of the concerns that i have is that everyone keeps trying to force where these guys are, who they are working for and at the end of the day, does
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it really matter? it's islamic extremism and that's what we have to find out where they are getting the funding from and we have to knock the heads off these guys. >> in france how worried are the people right now with the publication of the new issue, 3 million copies of the new issue of "charlie hebdo" that there could be more violence. >> a new edition will hit the newsstands in the coming hours. it's provocative. and not publishing at this point, we're hearing the inside pages and when you look at the past, the first depiction of prophet muhammad in 2006 that engendered all sorts of trouble. there's a worry in france because all news organizations in france at this point have decided to publish that front cover. it's not only on newsstands with
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speaker of the house representative john boehner by serving his poisoned drinks. our cnn affiliate in cincinnati reports that the man served drirvegs drinks to speaker boehner for at least five years. the speaker is now aware of the situation. we're going to stay on top of this story for you. obviously disturbing information. senator marco rubio is on many people's short lists of possible presidential contenders for 2016. senator rubio has sharp criticism of hillary clinton blasting the possible democratic candidate in his brand-new book. let's talk about "american dreams restoring economic opportunity for everyone." a lot jumped out at me especially the things you wrote about hillary clinton, who might be might be the democratic presidential nominee going forward towards 2016. another clinton presidency would
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be a death blow to the american dream. >> yes. >> explain. >> i'll tell you why. first of all, we have to understand what are the challenges being faced today, the challenges that we were once a nation like my parents experienced, that even if you had a limited education, you could find a job that paid you enough to fulfill the american dream. that's becoming harder for people to do and increasingly hard for people to achieve. the reason is not because of a cyclical downturn or a deep change to globalization, information technology automation has destroyed many of these jobs or sent them overseas. new jobs are being created that pay more but require training and skills many of our people don't have and the cost of everything keeps going up. these structural changes is what we have to deal with. you can't deal with structural economic policies. >> you also write in the book the election of hillary clinton to the presidency in short, would be nothing more than a
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third obama term. >> yes. absolutely. >> you don't see any difference between president obama and hillary clinton? >> she supports all of his policies especially the disastrous foreign policy. let's continue to raise taxes and increase regulations even if they make us globally uncompetitive. these things are not going to change the structural causes of this economic opportunity gap that millions of americans now face. >> the next two years, the republicans are in the majority not obama in the house butnot only in the house but in the senate. is this going to be a disaster? >> the agenda i outline in my book is not one that has to be a partisan one. i've looked at chris coons or mark warner who i have dealt with on a bipartisan basis. there are issues that we have strong disagreements on and at
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the end of the day, the reason the american people are elected, a majority of the republicans in the house and senate is because they disagreed with some of the policies in place, policies that democrats have advocated for. why would we now turn our back on the clear mandate? >> do you want to be president of the united states? >> i think it comes down to a simple question. where is the best place for me to achieve the agenda contained in my book? where is the best place for me to achieve that? is it in a majority in the u.s. senate or running for president of the united states and hopefully succeeded. that's the decision i have to make at this stage in my life. >> what is your family in favor of? >> which ever choice i make. that's a big consideration. it's my number one consideration, after my faith, because i think their lives will change too. and we've sur mounted that. it comes down to the fundamental question where can i pursue this agenda at this stage in my
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career. >> when will you make that decision? >> obviously soon in the sense that running a campaign requires you to put together the organization and raise the money. i'm con if i debt iffident if we decide to run for president we can win. >> what about mitt romney? he's telling donors he's seriously thinking about running. >> and he's earned the right to consider that and he too, will be a well-funded candidate. >> mitt romney jeb bush marco rubio, can you stand out? >> i think we're going to have an agenda which is what i hope to run on that will appeal to many people and i believe we'll have the resources to communicate that. ultimately the voter also choose what they want moving on to the rest of the country. >> when you make soon is that a matter of days weeks, months? >> i wouldn't say days but certainly months. >> the longer you wait the more difficult it becomes. >> sure. i know there's a time. i don't have a date or time or month in mind but certainly enough that you can build the kind of campaign that it takes
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to win. >> so within the next few weeks, you think you'll make a decision? >> yes. soon. i'll let you know promise. >> "american dreams restoring economic opportunity for everyone," the book was released earlier today. we'll have more on the cnn interview coming up tomorrow especially the normalized relations with cuba. he's not happy about that. let's bring in our chief political analyst gloria borger. by jeb bush jumping into this so early, so quickly, he's forcing everyone's hand. >> certainly he's sped up the process. everyone has to decide whether they are going to run out nor because they are out there with their tin cups looking for money. once jeb bush got in a lot of the establishment money that might have gone to chris christie for example, sort of had a decision to make and now, of course, you have mitt romney very likely to throw his hat in the ring.
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so it gets very complicated. can a candidate like marco rubio going to have a tougher time raising money and candidates like marco rubio and rand paul will have an easier time differentiating themselves from the candidates who have been around for many many years and they are going to present themselves and the folks who have run before. >> you've been talking to your romney sources. >> oh, yeah. >> it looks like he's trying to put together that old team. >> i don't think all of them will. some of them are conflicted. some are committed to chris christie. i've talked to so a bunch of them. some have talked to mitt romney directly and they say to me don't overcomplicate this in trying to figure out and peel the onion about why mitt romney may be doing this. he says he wants to be president. he thinks he should be president. he thinks there were a lot of
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things he didn't -- he got mocked for in the last campaign particularly on foreign policy regarding russia. you remember that. and that he wants to talk about that agenda and take it forward. and that the more he looked at this he had a great midterm election. a lot of his candidates won because they ran in states that he won. he looked at the field and how he felt and how his family felt and he sort of feels, you know third time could be a charm for him. >> it was for ronald reagan. >> it was for ronald reagan. >> it took him three times to gain nomination. >> one of the big stories about romney is there's a lot of head scratching going on and there isn't sort of an outpouring of support that we hear of course it should be mitt romney. yes it should be mitt romney. you're not seeing that. you're seeing people stay kind of silent and because they are trying to figure out right now how to position themselves and they don't know a lot about jeb
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bush and they don't know enough about chris christie and they don't know about the other candidates. and so you know you sort of -- you don't see this sort of ground swell for mitt romney third they have to do it soon. i presume from talking to my sources that we'll hear what mitt romney will do. whether he forms an exploratory economy committee. >> i suspect he will. >> just ahead, investigators are scouring video that terror attack for clues. there's more of the breaking news. that's coming up.
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tonight at 9:00 eastern, cnn will air a special report on the o.j. simpson trial drama of the century. the key players are examined. a botched demonstration that changed everything. >> handing mr. simpson that glove. >> that's people's 77. >> yes. >> what were you thinking when you heard prosecutor christopher
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darden request that simpson try on those gloves. >> sitting in the courtroom. when he did that f. lee bailey came up and grabbed me and whispered and laughing. why did you let him do that? i said i didn't know he was going to do anything. chris is a good man. he's a good prosecutor. he's a bright man. he should have known better. >> i remember watching the gloves in the courtroom, and thinking to myself he's not going to ask o.j. to put on the glove. that's too much of a risk. you never ask a question in a courtroom, much less do a demonstration where you don't know what the outcome is. it was like a slow motion disaster movie for the prosecution. >> after the trial christopher
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darden would admit to larry king it was a mistake. >> when it happened in court did you know i was in trouble? >> i knew it hasn't gone as well as i hoped. >> did you regard it as earth shattering to the case? >> no. not necessarily. it wasn't until i went upstairs and left the courtroom that people thought it was a monumental failure. >> was it chris darden that blew this case? >> chris darden blew it. when o.j. was able to walk in front of jury and say it's too small, he didn't have to testify. he had already testified in front of the jury. he wasn't cross examined. for us it was a win-win. >> all right. he appears to have pulled the gloves on counsel. >> to juror david it didn't seem like a big deal.
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>> o.j. simpson was right in front you have when he put on that glove. >> he was about maybe two feet away from me. >> what do you remember from that moment? >> a lot of people make a big deal about it but i was a truck driver. i wear gloves all the time. i know that when my gloves get wet they shrink up. >> keira is joining us now. everyone remembers johnny cochran's famous line about the gloves if it doesn't fit you must acquit. >> yes. we remember that. 20 years later when i was going back and interviewing the same players that i interviewed two decades ago i found out that johnny cochran coined that term. he was the most unknown member of the defense team. now 20 years later he's finally getting credit for that famous phrase. something else i learned, he
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told me after the acquittal that benjamin netanyahu called him up and said needed to talk to him. he thought he's going to ask me about security concerns things going on in the country. he goes to meet with netanyahu. he says come to my private room. they close the door. he said did o.j. do it? tell me did o.j. really do it. >> i think everybody around the world wanted to know. they happen to be close friends. it's not all that surprising that the new prime minister of israel would call and talk about it. you have amazing new details. excellent work. a lot of us who covered that story will be watching. thanks for joining us. >> the special report airs later
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tonight. 9:00 p.m. eastern ponly here on cnn. you can follow us on twitter. tweet me at wolf blitzer. be sure to join us tomorrow right here on "the situation room." watch us live or dvr the show. thanks very much for watching. eric ber eric ber net out front starts next. moments after the deadly attack calling reloading and then trading heavy gunfire with police. we'll hear from the shooters in their own words for the first time coming up. a radical muslim cleric calls it an act of war. could tomorrow's release of that magazine spark another attack. we're learning about an alleged plot to poison the speaker of the house, john boehner. this story is
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