whatsoever except to support and encourage others. >> we thank you for the voice and for sharing your personal storer ri with us. we wish you all the best of luck. >> thank you. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. this is cnn tonight, i'm don lemon. tonight, breaking news on the war on terror at home and in paris. a plot to attack the u.s. capitol. the fbi arrests a ohio man who plots to bomb the u.s. capitol and claims to be a member of isis. we will speak to his father. >> and also a man who claims to take responsibility for the mas massacre at charlie heb due. and a man claims to be a accomplice of coulibaly and he

may have driven him to the kosher grocery. and also a master mind extremist may have taken part in the attacks four years ago. and extremeists show a boy claiming to have shot two men who claim to be rushsian spies. is it real? we will look at it. >> and we have a number of things to get to the night. an ohio man is in custody, and he claims to be be in alignment with isis, and we have cnn correspondent pamela brown who is in washington. >> don, the fbi says that christopher lee cornell from cincinnati, ohio, was in the final stages of carrying out if attack of detonating bombs on u.s. lawmakers as ran out. fbi has been keep ging an eye on him after a kon fi the den shall

informant alerted them about the controversial post ss he put on social media. and he also said that he wanted to murder u.s. officials in in honor of isis. he said that we should meet up and make our own group and alliance with the islamic state here and plan operations ourselves. the fbi alleges that after the comments that he made on the social media that he took concrete steps in his goal to researching how to make pipe bombs, and studying the buildings that he wanted to target according to the fbi. and he also bought an automatic rifle, and today he was a arrested with charges of attempting to kill a u.s. officer. it is important that he did not pose as a threat to the public

during the course of the investigation, but it highlights the alert of the u.s. law enforcement officials who are being threatened by those self-radical iz self-radicalized or influenced by isis. >> thank you, pamela. >> thank you. on the phone with me now is john cornell whose son christopher lee cornell was ar arrested today because of a terror plot. what is your reaction, because he is being charged with trying to make or set pipe bomb ss off in the u.s. capitol and kill people. what is your reaction to that? >> i am devastated. i mean, i'm devastated, and heartbroken at the same time. i mean i mean it sounds so farfetched. you know what i mean. the kid is 20 years old and still lives at home. he had a seasonal job where he work and made minimum wage. you know, he was saving up, and he had a little bit of savings.

he had about $1,200 saved up and the gun that supposedly purchased today cost over $1,700 an i want to know where the other $500 came from and i believe it came from i believe are from the fbi. he was turned in by an informant for statements that he made on social network, and somebody facing criminal charges made a deal with the fbi and turned christopher over. >> do you believe a that he was involved with isis. >> heck h no. there is no way that my son was involved with isis. >> but he did convert to islam? >> yes, he did s. a that a crime? he converted to islam, and at first, i was concerned, because of all of the stuff that you see in the news and everything and he explan sins a lot of stuff to me that he never had anything against christians or anyone, you know.

i think he was vum er iner inable er iner in -- vulnerable you know what i mean, but he could not even drive. he didn't have a car. >> how was he vulnerable. >> you are 18 years old and you don't know what you want to do in life, and i think that he was vulnerable. >> and did he ever talk to you about islam or isis or ever even been to washington, d.c.? did he talk to you about that? >> he has never -- washington. he has only been out of the state of ohio two or three time ss maybe two or e three times and that was years ago. he has only been out of the house two or three times in the last month to buy groceries. >> did he speak to you about isis? >> no. never talk about isis. >> who washim? was he hanging out with new

friends? >> it had to be somebody that he met on social network and somebody he thought was hi friend, right. an fbi introduced him, and i'm not saying that he was a saint, but i think that a lot of it was coerced or a setup. >> do you know where he is tonight, mr. cornell? >> he's the in a -- no, i don't. he is in federal custody is all i know. the fbi would not tell us where he is being held or what he is charged with. >> what happens next? do you know what you are xoing the do nex or the what happens with the justice department? >> well, we will support him 100%. we know that he has public defenders, and he goes to court on the 16th at 1:30 in the federal courthouse is all i

know. >> the 16th he goes to court. >> what would you want to tell him now? >> i would tell him that we love him, and his mother loves him, and we support him 100%, and we will be there at every court date and we support him 100%. we don't support terrorism, and if if he did what they say he did, he's going to have to suffer the consequences and i mean he might be facing life in prison and you know how heartbreaking that is? his mother is devastated and heartbroken. >> john korcornell, thank you very much. >> yeah, okay, thank you. i want to bring in now cornell james reece, retired commander and ceo of tiger swan. what do you think of this? do you think that he is part of isis? >> no, don, i don't. he fits the profile, and he is

disenchant and this is a way por isis to bring some of the kids to bring them in but he is not a part of the isis. >> his dad believes he is coerced or set up by the fbi. >> and what people have to understand that you get on the internet and tweet and put this out, people are watch, and those are red flags that come out, and law enforcement, it is no joke. >> and the dad said that he is disenchanted and he sounds like every expert that comes in that fits the profile. >> yes. >> and this is serious, because he could face life, because he is charged with attempting to kill officers and employees of the federal of the united states with possession of a firearm in furtherance of a crime. >> as a father i cannot imagine my children writing that on the internet so it is insane. >> and thele legal fees? >> off of the charts. >> okay. stay with me, and we will get

back to you in a little bit. we want to turn to the terror attacks in paris, and the claims of who is responsible for that. we go to isasoares, and there is tv -- tf-1 a french television station claiming that there may have been an intention to blow up a plane. >> yes, don, we do know a that they had the arsenal on them, because when they were take then down that day by the security forces, we got a sense of the arsenal on them. the french prosecutor e telling us that they had an m-82 rocket launcher as well armed with the arm grenades so in terms of with what they had many in their

possession to do definitely there, that was there. and another point is that perhaps to shed some light on this p if you can remember where they were in the printshop, they were close to the main airport, and perhapses that could have been another sign, but we are not, we just do not know. >> all right. >> and also, the planes land very close to the motorway, and that is another reason if the with intention is there, it was there. and another point don, if the they had the intention to take out the plane, they had many incidents to where they could have killed so many people and they passed petro stations where they could have killed many people and other instances where they could have killed much more numbers, but still, you don't know what is going through the minds of these men. >> all right. isa soares.

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is the terrorist group isis depraved enough to put a gun in the hands of a child and have that child execute a prisoner? michael holmes reports now. >> reporter: a horrific new tactic from isis raising a new generation of terrorists a video released this week from the the terror group purports to show a young boy executing two hostages accused of being russian spies m. the video a young boy about 10 years old with long hair dressed in a black sweater and millitary fatigues stands before the hostages armed with a handgun. while a bearded isis fighter stands next to the the boy reciting religious verses. cnn cannot verify the authenticity of the video, but the boy pulls the trigger and appears to shoot both men in the head and fires one more time as

the hostages slumps to the ground. like previous executions showing the beheadings of western hostages h is edit and choreographed with slick production so it sis unclear if the boy did in fact kill the hostages, but the message from isis is clear, they are are turning children into killres. >> unfortunately, there is a turning to children for atrocity that that we have seen in africa and other kuncountry, and it is disturbing. >> reporter: this video is the first time that isis has portray portrayed a child carrying out a execution, but they have shown other children in other videos calling hem the cubs of the caliphate, and training them to fight in isis-run schools, and training with automatic weapon ss.

this particular boy, he has appeared in earlier isis individualvideos. he says that his name is abdullah and he is from kazakhstan and he wants to grow up to kill infidels and he is not the first time that isis has used shocking images of children online. a young australian boy holds a severed head this in a photo posted last august by the child's father, an extremist who took his children to syria to join the fight by isis. another fanatical group is also using children to further their evil agenda, and there is boca ka ha haram who set a bomb off strapped to a young girl killing 20 people includeing the young girl. and then the this week, we have

a young girl with an emotional plea. >> mr. baghdadi and other isis fight fighters, leave our children alone. >> reporter: the innocence lost of the children and what will a happen to these children when they egrow up? what kind of terrorists will these isis terrorists send into the world? >> joining us is the author of "between two girls, and escaping tyranny and growing up in the shadow of saddam." this is crazy. >> it is crazy. >> we want to look at some of the video, and then tear it apart. >> yes. >> and we see the young boy preparing to shoot the prisoners and looking young and innocent, and it is looking like a hollywood movie, zanid can, and is this a new low?

>> yes, the culture does have can children as part of the fighting and the boy is a man when he is 11 years old, so there is a cultural attitude. second isis is very savvy, and proven to be be savvy to produce can media, and veryr cool media if you may, that it is producing, and in a way, they are winning the propaganda war this the middle east. >> and do you believe it is rel relevant? >> i believe it is relevant to be truthful. >> and relevant if if it is real or not true? sh. >> right. because the idea of it having children kill or be killed is relevant this the cullture. >> do you believe it is real? >> i have looked at the video, and it is not clear. >> i looked at the edited version, and we did not see the blood spatter that you would see. >> so it is not real.

and this is the kids in training. and this is the second clip. kids this in train ging. and cornell reece, tell me about the kids that you are seeing and what are they training them for? >> basic martial arts, but for the the young men, this is young boys getting tough whether they are playing football or soccer or martial arts and h this is a way to show that they are trying to make their men, young boys into men at early age and getting them ready for the global fight. >> and you see them punching them into the stomach and teaching them defense move and obviously, these kids know how to use guns and are they using the the kids do you believe to carry out the executions? >> i don't believe they are using the kids in a big way in the fighting in in syria or iraq, but it is a propaganda and a message to isis enemies that there is a new generation coming, and they are going to build up the caliphate, and it is a multigenerational exercise and more to come.

>> and this is the perhaps more disturbing where you can see the final shots of the execution, and we don't show it but let's put it up. and so the boy holds up the gun, and according to the people who are producing this propaganda, he shoots both people and again, cnn cannot independently verify the authenticity of the footage, but they say the boy did kill the hostages. what do you see? >> well, there is such a thing a child soldier, and they give the gun to the children, and they shoot. the psychology of what happens to the children is a different reality. often they close their eyes and they don't know what they are doing, and afraid themselves but that is the theatre of using the children in wars, and that is what isis is doing, but i agree with you, thaey are preparing for the e beginning of the cal gate for them. they are giving the distinct

roles for everyone women, children men, and giving everybody a clear role. >> and right in the end, you hear them ask him, what do you want to become? and he says a mujahadine, a holy warrior, and this is goal as he is asking them who are asking him about him, the father who has radicalized him in the ideology. >> the children have gropewn up since the day they are born with this ideology and they grow up faster than our children or the children in the uk because they are around it all of the time. >> and you say a role for everyone, and women, children and men and in the highly slickly produced video, and i say h is a video that could be for a magazine of some sort. >> yes, and they are very, very savvy, and the part that worries h me is that they have created a

role, and the other one that is trying to combat them, the arab government or the muslim government they are not providing the clarity of the roles. so we have the woman who is escaping the most wanted woman here hayat boumeddiene and the other women who are fighting for the freedom of expressions, and otherwise, they are put in the prison s prisons, and 100 lashers from the blogger who talked about islam. so the other side is being punished while this is becoming clarity and heroes and so the way to the address it is to address the alternative, and we can't only crit sitz because we have to create the alternative. >> and it creates more people right, the video? >> e yes, the supporters are laughing it off as they are with the p beheadings individualvideos. >> and the children are being groomed from a very young age,

and how then do you stop it? how is it possible to stop it? >> well, are where is the counter propaganda and we see constantly, and where are the other arab nations countering this is what we are doing, and the the providing and the water and the food and the jobs and are where is that? we are not seeing that counter propaganda. propaganda. >> we have to go, but i said, when we were watching the isis and the al qaeda, and enjoying watching this do you think? >> oh, i would say they are getting and winning the propaganda war, and this is for them a way to e recruit more and make it more exciting. these are from the middle eastern perspective, when the youth are confused a and the instability in economy and politic, there is a clarity in here, and we are in a dangerous historical moment at the moment. >> we will standby, and be back with colonel reece and paul cruikshank, and thank you for being with us zainab.

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the american-born muslim cleric anwar al awlaki was a cleric in the world of islam, and three years after his death he is still influencing terrorism. >> hi, don. in terms of the attack on the french magazine, we know that al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, we know that with that group, you have to consider the influence of h this man, anwar al awlaki the american-born cleric. the speeches of al awlaki are believed to have inspired the boston marathon bombings, and police believe that the tsarnaev broer thers listened to him and the radical imam who killed one soldier in arkansas and also had written material by al alaw

can ki and also the man who killed fellow soldiers at fort hood and now convicted of mudder and sentenced to death sent e-mail messages to al awlaki, and the man who hid explosives in his underwear and blow up a jet also had ties to al awlaki and the interesting part of this is that he has been dead for more than three years keled by a drone strike over yemen, so how does he have influence? through the writings and the speeches found on the internet, and many of the analysts have note had the speeches have unique resonance with the disaffected young muslim men and not because he talks about the politic, because he does some and not because he talks about the action or the bombings or the shootings, because he does some, but mainly because he talks about what it means in

his view to be a good muslim to, be a person that matter aed on the talk about belief. even in death, that helps to create believers and those radical beliefs create the bombs. don. >> thank you, tom foreman. e. we have more breaking news to tell you about. the paris newspapers are saying that al mehdi coulibaly applied for a loan and also life insurance, and cnn has not independently confirmed the information, but it is information that has been put out, and now paul cruikshank and as well cornell reece back with

us does this seem right? >> yes. we foe that he had given the money to the kouachi brother, and maybe he was trying to get that money to launch against the "charlie hebdo" magazine, by applying to the loan and life insurance. >> and now, let's talk about the influence of al awlaki and they called him the smooth talker and he could sell anything to anyone and why so influential? >> well, looking at the ideology of terrorle cell, and whether it sis whatever type of cell they work on this how you do it and whatever you do, meet the intent. whether it takes a week or three year, that is how the systems work. and then they tell another group to do it and you will get several balls up in the air at one time the, and if one falls and goes into the basket you have scored. >> so it is a sermon that he

wins the people over with. and paul, i want you to have you listen to some of them on the internet internet, and they were taken down, but you can find them if you look for them, and this is what he says to the american people, the message. >> to the american people i say, your security will continue to be threatened as long as your government continues with this aggression against the muslim people. if your security is dear to you, then you should call for your government to pull out from the muslim lands. the mew jaujahadine have offered the truth, and we have offered a path from war away pr your suppression, and god willing we will continue with the war and you will find us persistent. >> what do you think of the message message? people buy into that and believe into it? >> they do buy into it that he

is somebody who was charismatic, and seen by somebody who has a deep religious knowledge and spoke english in a way that resonated with the frustrated extremists. >> and how did he become so radicalized? >> well, he was radicalized for various reasons, and he was fervent before 9/11 but not proal qaeda, and he came to conclusion that the u.s. was engaged with war on islam, and also the wars the in iraq and afghanistan, and also in prisonb for couple of years in yesmen and blamed the americans on that between 2006 and 2007 and he felt personally humiliated because the fbi put out allegations that he had visited with prostitutions out in the united states and so he had a set of reasons to hate the united states, and he was obsessed with the idea that al qaeda should put all of the energy into hitting the u.s. >> i want you to lis own the sound bite of a group that claimed responsibility for the

paris attack last week. [ speaking foreign language ] hat do you think of the claiming of the responsibility, and what does it tell you? >> well shgs sit, it is credible of the potential training that one of the brothers had in we aremen, but it is no absolute proof ta they directed it and no absolute martyrdom video, and in to a abdulmutallab video of the christmas day video that came

out, it was a credible video, but this is one of the top guy, and so they are getting the top guys behind this. >> and it is absolutely awe authentic, and so what you are doing now, you are aqap is trying to show that they are the main influencer of the jihadist e cells out there, and that is what they are trying to show. >> and how do you know that the attacks happening now, and you are talking about the funding and the money, and talking about the kid in ohio, and his dad said he only had 1,200 and he had $500 more and how do they receive funding from around the world? is it through messages like this? where do they get the mo e mee? >> that is exactly how they get it. when they went to kouachi brothers went to yesmen, they got a blank of money, and then what happens when they go to cell, they have a fee financier and

tactician. >> and i guess that coulibaly is e telling them to take the surveillance cameras down and you will see bodies and thing, and does this heldp the investigators? >> yes, it is showing how he pushed the people, and how he strong pointed the people, and he was not there to die for al law. >> and does mainstream muslim world need to do more to battle radical islam? we will get into that. (dad) i wanted a car that could handle anything. i fixed it! (dad) that's why i got a subaru legacy.

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joining p me to have the discussion is an emmy nominated journalist and adjunct professor at columbia university and also rabbi schuley basschooley from new york city. and now, there were marchers from paris, and is that having to march in the name of islam? >> yes. and having introduced the first prizner of war, and he chose the rabbi to be the first prisoner. and when the jews were kick eded

out of portugal, and do we see it today is the question. and if i i'm a muslim, a that is the question, and the animals who kill in the name of islam do not represent my faith. they are an abomination and the footage that you showed in the look of an islamic child shooting people in the head we denounce that. >> and do you believe that -- >> well, i came to say, that boca haram and that else can be denounced wholly. >> and it is deeply problematic to put this on the muslims aed on the have a faith community group of 1 billion people to feel the need to apologize the need to apologize for a few individuals and it plays into the muslim aims to have a kon

strived construct of "us versus them" to perpetuate the extremists on both sides. and so we are seeing the muslim moderate people condemn it, but i don't understand why when these attacks happen there is an interrogation, and the western needs to see the fay chur of all muslims there. sis a distortion when we see the ter terror attacks n. europe in the last five years less than two percent of muslim attacks were motivated or launched by muslim groups so rabbi, h this is my issue, and i understand the motivation and the perception of wanting to condemn these, and i have condemned this and shown solidarity as muslim and muslim with "charlie hebdo" if i don't condone the speeches why must

they do it in the -- >> i am astonished to see this an when we had abu ghraib muslims were disgusted with this, because we are americans and stand for something better and here is maybe something hundreds of thousands of people murd manager the name of islam around the world doing that and saying it is the religious obligation and you are not concerned that people will misunderstand that and this that i wear is a symbol of what i believe h in and i know e that my actions reflect on the faith and i was told from the time i was a jewish child when i walk and with what i say and do will say whether my faith can shape the moral character and don't you want the islam to shine as a beacon to the world. >> of course he does. and here is the thing that people people, it is the yes, but. if someone says do you denounce or that, and then emphatic this is absolutely wrong, and

wherever we can stand up we need to. >> don, i'm with you, and let me ask you a question, and when anders brevic killed 77 people did we have the same calls to have christians around the world world, was there a call for the condemning? >> yes, and so did the muslims, but you are saying why don't the christians denounce it? >> yes, and myanmar and other a areas, aed when you think of-- and when you think of the radical buddhists, you don't think of them standing up to condemn it, and i'm not

saying that they should not condemn it, but i am saying they rare condemning it. >> but muslims like yourself who are fortunate to live with the western values and express themselves without the fear of the government and able to the read the truth in the newspapers and go on to -- >> and i would not say that we are free to express themselves without the fear of the government. >> i would say they are. and they enjoy the western values and don't they want the same experience of the billions around the world, and don't they deserve the same rights. >> rabbi rabbi, no one is defending it. >> you are defending it. >> i am defending what? what am i defending it? >> you will get the last word. >> the last word is this, at the end of the day, we have millions of people around the world who are condemn inging this, and they are muslims and i read the article of why it needs to be muslims -- >> to take back the religion from monsters. >> and take the extreme itselves

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seven days ago a pair of gun wielding broer thrs stormed the "charlie hebdo" office ss and killed 11 people. my colleagues have been covering this story since. joining me are the journalists from the tf1 tv. what is it like there? >> well, it is very strange, don. i was a new york correspondent in september of 2001 and we had the very strange and unique combination of the sadness

sorrow and fear and knowledge that it is never ever going to be the same, because we know that they are heerre, and they can strike pretty much anywhere at any time, but there is also this sense of resilience this sense of defiance that was of course very well illustrated by the incredible march sunday. >> when you walk around are people fearful, rattleded or edor walking the streets in defiance that you rare not going to make us afraid? >> so far, you know the french people in the parisians around me they are going about their business pretty much as usual, and you could get a sense of that sunday because the demonstration was incredible and which have been in the business for 25 years, and it is the most incredible event that i have ever covered i think. the phrenfrench can be somewhat unruly demonstrators when they take to the streets, and they r

are usually not very quiet, and usually not civilent and calm with the police but none of that sunday. everyone was very much in unity as the people, and standing as one. >> it is awful that it happened, but the reaction and a renewed seps of pride among the parisian parisians, but i am wondering how the locals feel that is situation has been handled by the authorityiesauthorities. >> again, a combination of the sorrow and sadness, because other than the three terrorists we have 17 people dead. but as far as the french police are concerned and the way they handled the assaults, everybody is very proud of them, and a lot of ed a miradmiration that certainly

the french police is not used to. >> and there is concern about the retaliation against the muz muslims. are most of the people there questioning mainstream islam or do a majority believe it was terror caused by extremists? >> i haven't heard anybody of the past few days questioning the mainstream islam, and the french politician on any part of the political spectrum have been very clear that those terrorists should not be confused with the mainstream french muslim community, however as you have pointed out, there have been some incidents between 50 and 60 since the attack took place, and so this is an issue, and that is the reason why in addition to strengthening considerably the protection of the school ss and sites here in france, police forces have been deployed also

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the breaking news tonight, an alleged plot to bomb the

capital and o ho manhio man has been arrested 20-year-old christopher cornell from columbus ohio. ha is it for us tonight. "ac360" starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com a man who was inspired allegedly by isis has been planning an attack on the capital. his name is christopher lee cornell, and he was arr rested today by the fbi in an undercover operation. this picture was taken by someone inside of a store of the arrest of christopher cornell. pamela brown is joining