morning as police and security forces chase down leads and links to potential terrorists soens in belgium new concerns that one of the sell ises is on the run and has hospital links to i sis new details of

another round of security measures on airports across the country. it's so good to see you especially this early in the morning good to be with you. we will have more on how the terror alert is impacting the must just a moment now, pamela brown that's leading the coverage yeah, what is the latest there and good morning to you. >> reporter: that's right. keeping up to be a busy day here. good morning to christy and victor. count rips were on high alert for terror suspects that are still on the run. as many as 20 sleeper cells and 180 terrorists may deploy a strike in france and belgium. this comes after sweeping raids were carried out. 13 suspect mill at that particular times were detained in belgium and about a dozen arrested in france and germany.

now, according to those arrested in belgium it was part to assassin police in the streets. as a counter terror official says that they order recruits to return to europe from the battleground to launch attacks. in the wake of the arrests security is being beefed up here in paris and on the streets. this is new video here and take a look. trooms are patrolling the streets outside and just one of the many signs of the heightened security there in the city and elsewhere. cnn ivan watson is in brusles, and ivan, what's the latest? >> reporter: that's right. we have seen unusual and rare deployment of soldiers from the armed forces being deployed here in the capital of brusles outside of the jew you museum

that was target of an attack in may. we saw them in europe where the jewish services are going ahead on saturday despite the heightened security threats. what do we know about the investigation that's under way? well the federal prosecutor in charge says that he is not going reveal the names some 48 hours after police raids of the two suspects that were killed in a gun battle with belgium police in the eastern town. he is not going to release the name of the suspect captured alive, because he wants to protect the investigation that's underway. we believe that they were belgium citizen, and we're hearing that they did visit syria in the path and believe to have i sis links. they're not linked to the deadly

attacks on the charlie magazine offices in paris where pamela is. this is believed to be a separate operation entirely. there were two suspects arrested by french authorities from belgium, and they were arrested trying to cross from france into italy and belgium has formally requested the extradition of the suspects. it gives you a sense of how international believed these operations are, and how international the efforts are to try to bring these people in and try to foil these plots. the belgium authorities seized not only weapon ins the raid on thursday night and explosive, they also say that they seized police uniforms, and they believe that that cell was planning an attack on the belgium police officers and that's why we're outside of the

headquarters of the federal police here. we're hearing that the belgium police have been instructed not to move around in uniforms alone. they have to be in groups of more than one person here. >> very disturbing. thanks. we will be sure to check back in with you. across europe police are scrambling to find terror suspects on the run. ability a dozen people have been arrested to the connection of the attack. they're accused of helping the gun downed that gunned down four skpeem let's bring in esis, what do we know about the suspects and what are we learning about them? >> there's a lot of activity and you know under the cover of darkness police search four different areas and suburbs of paris, and they have 12 people

in custody and they still are all in custody. one of them are released and they provide support to the man that killed four people. remember he killed the policewoman the day before. the police have found and this is to the newspaper here. the police have found dna that links some of these people to bali. it's eight men and woman four. the weapons that he had on him are dna and links some people to him. also the car that he had also linking had him to him. if you remember pamela there was the apartment that he rented and weapons stashed. they found dna that links some of the individuals to him. you're starting to get the pictures and a sense of really how the city is very much on edge and still very very tense.

>> absolutely. i can feel it and just arrived her yesterday. after check nothing the hotel they did a security check of my bag and everything. what's the sense that you're getting when walking around? do you get a difference? >> yeah, it's still raw. you can go into any shop. i went into a shop and they asked to search the bag. it's not people in europe. the police soldiers and we're talking soldiers. there are soldiers on the streets of paris and they're heavily armed. this is something that the city is not used to seeing and not seeing it in years. people are on edge and any sound people think that it's there and it's a reminder all the time that this is a concerned and also and what you're seeing at the same time with two men will be buried.

there was no -- there was no one else there just his wife. i think that it's just a sense that the fear of the phobia and the sense is very raw for the city. >> i know that talking to counter terrorism folks there's a return of fighters returning back to europe and those that have been fietding along i sis and syria and france is a hot bed for that and for the returning fighters. what are you hearing from the officials as far as their concern about the other people that might be here and sleeper cells that maybe in the bold of attacks. >> well, we knew that this was a problem and discussion that they have been talking about for a while. we do not know what's happened behind the scene. we know that 3,000 have gone to fight i sis in resent years. a lot of them are going to the uk and 250 to 200 to belgium and some in france.

officials are not talking specifically about the number of terror cells although that we have heard the number active in europe, but it's not a less of concern. the concern is also the radical sags that's taking place in prison. >> right. >> we know this is exactly what happened as well as what the brosz. they were radicalized and this is reasons that they're looking for ways to separate the individuals and isolate them. >> they have the work cut out for them. >> indeed. >> one said this is like a slow car accident happening before our eyes. thank you for joining us, we appreciate it. in the meantime secretary of the state kerry back in the u.s. this morning. he met with the french president and conveyed his full and heart felt condolences and layed wreaths at the side of the

kosher super market. he met with the paris mayor as james taylor performed the 1971 hit, you have a friend. as we hear christy and victor back to you in atlanta. >> thanks pam. we will check back to you in a moment. a lot are wondering how it's affecting the u.s. >> cnn learns that there are plans for security measures at airports this week. you need to know about that, and we will give you the latest. >> they say that the attack was imminent there. the latest on a international man hunt for the surviving member of the terror cell that was taken down live from philippines and the terror threats.

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man hunt for the terrorist continues. thank you for being here with us. europe on high alert over terror threats. there's a lot developing as we speak. here is what we know about nouchlt according to 20 sleeper cells containing from 120 and 180 terrorists are ready to strike. sources say a man huntd under way for the belgium terror cell that was taken down this week. officials say that the deadly rate stopped an attack, but they may not have entirely wiped out the terrorists in the cell. peter joins me live from london and he is a director for the study of radical sags and thanks for joining us. let's start off with the man hunt for the belgium terror cell. there's sources that there are others in the cell that might be out there. they're trying to track them down as they speak.

are you worry that had they will try to resyringe the ones that were killed? >> that's a possibility. of course they realize that they're being hunted down and they may well conclude that the best thing that they can do you now is to do another strike, because they're going to be caught any way. another important thing is that the usual pattern of all of the returning cells and the cells and people who've been to syria is that there are people that have been to syria, but they're supported by other people who stayed back home, so it's very likely that there's a significant number of people that still need to be tracked down. >> and we just reported according to one o official there could be 20 sleeper cells here in europe. how do you think what we have seen with the terror attacks

could impact other people in europe that may have trained along i sis and syria? >> i they there are a couple of threats here. the first is that other people who have the same mind set and who have the means to carry out terrorist attacks feel inspired by what they have seen in belgium and paris, and feel that they have a sense of momentum. they feel that all of the points and times this probably the best strike. this is the heightened danger. in the long term, there's a long term threat and that is up to 4,000 have gone to syria to fight. many of them have returned and even if they do not strict right now, they may strike in ten or 15 years. this is not a problem that will go away any time soon forts natalie. >> yeah, it's just the case with

the paris attacks. one of the brothers went to o yes, ma'am anyone. i want to take a listen to the interview with former cia. >> you have got terrorists coming at us from a lot of different directions, from i sis, from al shabaab and aqap and other elements of al qaeda. they're recruiting from the wars in iraq and seem to be involved in more planning and more weapons in terms of the type of attacks that they're working on, so i think that it's pretty clear from what we're seeing that we're interesting a more threatening and dangerous period in this war on terrorism. >> so peter, i want to hear ayour thoughts on that. do you think that we're entering a dangerous period in terrorism?

>> i think that the volume of threats is certainly higher than it has been in the past three years. i am glad that he is saying that because three years ago he declared that al qaeda was defeated and that everyone had to move on from the threat. i am glad that he has come to recognize that there are terror threats around and as a result of the syrian conflict, these are more significant and severe than before. my feeling is that we're almost going into another round of confrontation and the generation of ben laden that was killed in 2011 is retiring and the syrian conflict has drawn a new generation of people into the store. it's unfortunately and i am quiet pessimistic. >> we were just talk about a is

and do you think that those people arrested and killed had ties to isis. are we seeing the the fear played out before us? >> well, i think that a couple of things are happening. that will keep us busy for the next five or ten or 15 years. they're often brutalized and they are if you want to professionals. then there are a lot of supporters that have not been to syria and very interest in the islamic state. they have urged the supporters and the fan bogs to carry out attacks and last september the spokes person said if you cannot come to syria, just go out there and kill people. to some extent we have seen that in sidney and france before

christmas. very low level small attacks that still had a profound affect on the society. they're different kind of threats. both returning and supporters. >> we may have seen that with one of the paris suspects. he pledged to isis, but it's unclear if he went along to fight with them. thanks for sharing and christy and victor, back to you still to come the pope was supposed to speak before 6 million people and so many excited about it. how an approaching typhoon is changing the plans. scrambling to shut down the threat. we have an inside look for you at how they work and what's being done to uncover who they are and try to stop them. double wings, extra ranch.

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our coverage continues on terror cells another story. pope francis is forced to cut a visit short because of a

typhoon. we got the shot earlier this morning where pope francis delivered mass to thousands. you see him here and before he had to leave manila and hours earlier that had dangerous traveling conditions. >> the pope talked about free speech and terrorists attacks and said if a friend says a swear word against my mother, a punch awaits him. it's normal and one cannot provoke or insult a faith. one cannot make fun of faith. now the pope stressed that there was no justification for the killing of 17 people. >> now, joining from the philippines and anna, the comment about a punch awaits him has stirred some thoughts and emotions for a lot of people. what was pope francis getting at there?

>> reporter: look the vatican was quick to clear this up up. this is his free style conversation type of speech. it's not to be distorted or manipulated. he was speaking to journalist on a flight to the philippines here, and he was making reference to obviously how, you know, these things can stir emotions within people. by no means was he justifying terror or violence. justifying the attacks, definitely not. he has spoexen out about violence and terror. not just in paris, but world wide. the vatican making it clear that pope francis does not justify the people's intention to kill. >> and a lot of people have had conversations wondering where the muslim leaders are in condemning the attacks.

did the pope address that at all? >> look, the pope has shown solidarity with other leaders here. this is an emotional time for everybody involved of all religions. certainly the pope has spoken about that during the trip here to the fill phones about respects other religions and cultures and not mocking which perhaps there are many people that believe that's what exactly happened with the the newspaper. certainly as far as the pope is concerned, he wants to see peace in the world and cause not condone violence and spoke out to the terror attacks. >> thank you. we appreciate it. >> thank you anna now, the hunt is on across europe for suspected terrorists that maybe on the run.

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welcome back and i am pamela brown live in paris. just days after a plot in paris law enforcement says that there could be more on the run. authorityings have called on the cia to help track down the suspect that was the master mind in the plan. meanwhile officials say that there could be 20 sleeper cells plots attacking here in places like france, germany and the netherlands. so far 20 people arrested and some of the o officials had direct links to isis and we're learning new information about one of the two brothers of the massacre. according to the lawyer that spoke to cnn, he was buried over night in an unmarked grave northeast of paris and no mom present. we're going to seize on a rare

opportunity and cnn crews are chasing down lead ins the wake of new terror threats on europe. it's a breeding ground for terrorists and it's a breading ground and apparently according to authorities we know that one of them received orders for the deadly rampage on the offices and cnn's nick wall sh has more. >> pamela yemen is so key on what is in the based in the failing state behind me. it's a economy on collapsesed and an institution struggling to hold on. they're calling that violence in paris and the twisted terminology the blessed battle of paris. we know from one official that he first came here according to

their data base in august of 2009. he made a number of trips in and out until 2011 and even 2012 suggests had this official. the question is that did his brother come here and using his brothers passport. that would be traveling under the brother and most importantly al qaeda claiming that an mourn citizen killed was the organizers behind the attacks. did the relationship between the brothers and al qaeda end in 2011? did they have the target to make the attacks? or was there a continuing network of communications and logistics that continued up until the start of the attacks in par were riss over a week ago. vital things that investigators need to establish because if there's a relationship, they won't to stop it as quickly as

possible. what is happening day by day according to one that i spoke to is facilitating and there's a civil conflict raging for years and it's changed some what in the last few months and gathering the nature and there's a key here that pretty much they have swept into the capital center behind me and taking over the streets and putting up checkpoints and confronting across the country al qaeda and those tribes allied to al key dah and turning what's happened into a war and mering the conflicts that they're seeing. that's important said one western dip lo mate because it means that frightened sue knees here are in fact putting the guns to help al qaeda and other tribes. that means on the local

battlefield the al qaeda is better resourced and it therefore has more resources to think about operations. by that they mean attacks on the west. that's the fear that they have great secrete recipes of this diplomat for making nonmetallic bombs that can be used. the question is how can that be stopped? some what out of the spotlight and the question is do they have active networks inside of europe. that's what they're racing to find out now. pamela. >> yeah, that's a concern among officials. that's you nick for the report in yemen. >> officials are scramble to the see how wide spread it maybe. how does a sleeper cell work? bryan todd has a closer look.

>> a western official tells cnn there's huge concern from the danger in sleeper cells in europe and elsewhere. the worry is ore the unknown and how they will strike. >> a terror cell disrupted but braving for more. there could be several sleeper cells ready to strike in france, germany, belgium and the netherlands. now new concerns on the planning and timing. >> the worry is how and when will they be activated. >> former officers say that sleeper cell is made up of a few o operative. they're acting on the half of a former country or terror group or inspired by a group and acting on their own. they're live nothing the city where they want to strike and selecting targets. >> they're already there, and they have that about to cross

borders. they have that ability to live without being on the radar skill. >> they're skilled blending in and like the guy next door. >> they will have a regular job. you may see them at the stripe jointd. anything to take off the clam or suspension that they might be extremist or terrorists. >> the 9/11 reporters did that. he is a former one that almost went to iraq to fight and broke way and went under cover and helped to bust a terror cell. he says that many sleeper operatives do not speak by phone or internet. some are are told do not give a hint of the religion. >> it could be shave your beard. remove the garb, anything to blend in. that's determined by the handler or sometimes the operatives in the cell itself.

>> sleeper operatives stay isolated. experts say and lie doormat for years. >> they wait for a moment when the world attention is turned away and the planning phase is over to strike. >> the sleeper cell is always charging. a u.s. official said that these days terror cells do a lot less of sleeping. they plot and hope to avoid suspension and do it themselves than wait for a signal. >> very concerning and bryan todd, thank you for that report. officials are trying to prevent isis and other terror groups from recruiting young westerners and carrying out attacks. peter joins us again from london and he is the director for the study of radical sags and political violence. peter, thanks for coming back on:i want to hear what the

senator told cnn this week. >> the real weapons of mass destruction are unemployed 22-year-old that fall for the ideology, and we have to the see how to counter that. >> so peter you hear that and you couple that with the fact that isis and other groups are using social media as a recruiting method. what can you do to prevent especially young men and woman from being drawn to the terrorists groups? >> i think that there's long, medium and short term things that you can do. the short term is to get the mess sang out. a lot of the fighters that go to syria are not at all happy what the state is saying in the prop january dah is not always true. we know that because there are fighters that have come back and reported about the experiences. how they're being used essentially as a fighter by the state. how the syrian people do not

like them and they hate being used and fighting against other groups. those messages are important to get out n. the long term the senator is absolutely right. in a lot of countries we have descendants of muslim immigrants and populations that experience conflicts because why they're born here and part of the society, they're not fully expected. they often have experiences of rejection and as a result, they do not feel that they belong to europe. it's open and suspectable to the message of recruiters and that can sometimes be powering to them. >> absolutely. you say conflict of identity and they say that's right on. these are people looking for a purpose and for some reason they find that with the terrorists groups. i want go go back and hear from senator king that suggested raeping out to joung people that

may have been incarcerated. take a look at what he said in this. >> the british are developing a program to antiradical liez the prison system. that's something and the kind of thing to think about. we6 to go deeper than just police, fbi, cia and military. we have to talk about how do we stop this movement toward radical sags because otherwise, this is going to be a hundred year war. >> so peter, what is the reaction to that. do you think that's part of the answer here? >> i they it's part of the answer because we know that my center has done a big report about this for years ago where we study the situation in the prison systems in 15 different countries. it's very clear to us that prisons are a place that people are being radicalized and people are being seeked out with criminal backgrounds and there's

the danger of terrorists and ordinary criminals who have skills in terms of weapon and money that could be used by terrorists. you have to go in the prison system and make sure that they're present and provide counseling so that the extremist cannot take vacuum. you have to train the prison staff, and you have to make sure that the prisons are orderly and safe and not over crowded. all of the cases of prison radic radic radical sags were ones that were crowded and they lost control of the prison. >> okay. thank you very much. we're going to check back in with you a little bit later. we appreciate it. christy and victor, back to you in atlanta. >> thank you so much pamela. we wonder and look at what is happening in europe and say how is that affecting us here in the u.s.? well the faa is doing some

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welcome back. 16 minutes before the hour. now the faa is putting in some new rules and putting those in

place and you including suspending a program that allows safety inspectors to by pass the tsa security checkpoints. >> yeah, that's after firearms. renea has more details on what is happening there. good morning renea. >> reporter: well, the headline from the secretary is another round of ramped up measures at the airports is under way. it's unclear if these will be seen or unseen changes. johnson says that it's in response to threat streams that they're seeing now. >> we have evolved to a new phase in the global terrorists threat. >> the head of homeland security revealing even more airport measures are on the way. >> we're looking at doing more in the short term in reaction to some of the threat streams that we're seeing now. >> this after da announced earlier this week and ramped up

searches over fears that terrorists are creating nonmetallic explosive capable of passing there through some airport scanners undetected. >> when you talk about more measures as far as aviation goes, what would that look like? what's the time line for that and what's the intelligence here? >> well, i told my folks that i wanted an accessment in the short term, so i want that in the next couple of days. >> additional random and passenger checks are happening at the gate once they have cleared tsa checkpoints. once they published a step by step guide to building hard to detect bombs. following september 11th transportation systems continue to be a target for terrorists. in 2005 four suicide bombs detonated within seconds of each

other on a bus and three different trains traveling through london's stations. in 2010 one pled guilty for plotting to blue up a new york subway. >> just this week a malfunction caused a dc station to fill with smoke. passengers were left waiting for more than 40 minutes before the responders helped them evacuate and raising questions how prepared the u.s. is to respond to emergencies on the nations transportation system. >> one has to wonder what would have happened had that fire been set by terrorists and clearly the response was inadequate. >> well, johnson struck a tone and saying that the department is accessing new intelligence and threats every day and every hour. >> rene reporting for us.

thank you. have you heard of the 20-year-old man from ohio that's being held without bond this morning after planning a bomb and gun attack on the u.s. capital. now, chris cornel planned to travel to washington that he would have set off pipe bombs and then gun down lawmakers and staff as they try to escape duke university made the decision not to let students use the chapel bell tower for the friday called to pray. something that they have been allow today do for two years. more than 700 students identify as muslim. so mitt is considering running for president in 2016. what does the rnc think about that and another run? we will ask the political co

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coming you up we will have more on the hunt for the sleeper cells in just a moment. but let's check politics right now. there was a meeting of the e are publy can committee and mitt was you there and considering a

third run for the white house. >> yeah, so if he does think about this he could be up against jeb bush, chris christy, paul, rub owe and there's a lot of people being talked about for this one. >> yeah, and more. >> yeah, so we want to bring in chris. we understand that you were just at the gop retreat. what is the buzz among republicans to this news last night that romney maybe considering another run? >> well, the buzz is not about mitt romney. there's a lot of debate right now about whether he should step into the race. there are some that really want to see him get back in and others that say that he had the chance and there's time for new blood in the party. look, republicans have a large menu of candidates or possible candidates to choose from. this is not 2012. there are sitting governors and

people that can be candidates, so i do not think that anyone is going to pick mitt romney. >> the question that so many are asking is what is different this time? what's different about 2016 that we did not see in the 2008 runs? >> well, the reason that he is getting in is that he feels van did i you kated on what has happened the past couple of years. he made predictions that have really turned out to be true. he was a republican it turns out and that's what makes him want to jump in. what is different is the caliber of candidates here. if you remember back in 2012, romney did not have an easy time. he had the fight his way through the republican primary and that was not the best that republicans had. in 2016 it's going to be difficult. he is going to be fighting again

dollars and those that have a long standing tie and large top donating. >> what is different this time around? >> well, in 2012 if you remember there was a per sechgs of romney that he was not concerned about the poor, and that might have had something to do with the fact that he is not concerned about the poor, but if you look at his message last night he mentioned that he wants to bring people out of poverty and in 2012 he was focused on the milled class and probably too much. he let other things fall by the waste side, but here he is focussing and the wages are stag innocent and he has to have a message that's with a wider group of people with 2012. >> okay. thank you chris moody. first there were attacks in paris and you now there's the

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they're spotted in south carolina and believe to have headed to florida. this is when the father reported the daughter missing look at the mug shots and they're causing outrage in north miami beach. police snipers use them as targets for target practice. one of them notice that it was of her brother and several other african american men and filed a complaint. police say that it's not a case of racism because they used photos of other relations. a police chief says that officers did nothing wrong, but because of the climate, the practice will stop bill cosby's lawyer denying the latest assault against the comedian. cosby sexually assaulted her at a party in 2008. now, cosby's lawyer says that he

was not in california that day. more than 20 woman have come forward with assaults against the comedian. the next hour of your new day starts right now. [ music playing ] terror in europe. security high as many as 20 sleeper cells posed to strike in france, germany, belgium and the netherlands. secretary of the the state john kerry is back from paris and meeting with leaders now. he laid a wreath and trying to let them know they have a friend in france. the fbi is tracking dozen training in syria. [ music playing ] all right. it's saturday morning and we're

so grateful for your company. >> i am victor and glad to have you in our new home. we will talk about that in just a moment. it's 7:00 on the east coast. now, live to pamela. >> reporter: good morning to you victor and christy. brusles wants the help to track down the master mind of a plot to assassinate the police in streets. it's thought that they were linked to isis and formed troops are patrolling the streets of russells this morning as we speak. this is following sweeping raids in belgium and france and germany. more than two dozen were detained, but the threat is far from over. just days a source telling cnn as many as 20 sleeper cells and as many as 120 terrorists could strike across europe. we're covering this and let's begin with watson and brusleals

belgium. i understand that security has stepped up there this morning. >> reporter: that's right pamela. belgiums woke up to an unusual scene this morning and that's army trucks and troops on to the streets. we have seen them here in brusles and posted outside jewish buildings and a jewish museum and a deadly attack last may that killed four people. also outside the greet sin god where they're continuing as usual. now, this coming some 48 hours after the police carried out a raid on the eastern town, and they're suspect opened fire on the police. two of them were killed, and a third arrested. belgium authorities are not revealing the names two days

later to protect the investigation. take a listen to what the federal prosecutor had to say about the raid and suspects. >> we can not say that any u.s. interests were involved or targeted by the group. this group for we know now was targeting belgium police and planned to kill belgium preliminary in the streets or buildings where the belgium police were. they were planning to assassinate preliminary. i know that in the press there's rumors of kidnapping people and beheading them. at this stage, we can not confirm that. >> chilling allegations there pamela and more so when you consider the fact that the police say that not only did they find assault rifles and explosive in the hands of those suspects, but they also found police uniforms which could have

been used to do damage to the police. now look, this is one of the army trucks as you can see armed soldiers there that are now patrolling the streets here of brusles. we have reports that the army have also fanned out in the youish diamond district of that city as they try to hunt down some of the suspects. they're not revealing the names but do suspect that the men that were involved had been to syria. they do not believe that there are any links to the deadly charlie attack in paris where you are right now. pamela. >> ivan watson, thank you for the latest there in belgium secretary of the state john kerry back in u.s. after laefing paris. they conveyed his full

condolences and kerry laid wreaths right outside of the office and kosher super market. i want to bring in esis and we know that 12 people have been arrested since the attack. can you tell us what we know more on the suspects? actually, we're going get esis actually coming up a little bit later. let's move on to some more news that we're following. we're foming this from all angles. nick walsh in england and we know that one of the brothers trained in yemen back in 2011. here is more from nick peyton walsh. okay. we're going to get to nick peyton walsh in a little bit. before we get there, let's bring in lieutenant general analyst mark. a lot of arrests in the last 48

hours mark. do you think that o officials are getting good information? a bit of concern is that there's other terrorists out there right now? >> i know that there's good information. there's analysts and three letter agencies throughout europe. the combination of the sharing with the governments and the sharing with the three letter agencies back with the united states provide some great opportunities for really locking down on the cells and networks. you mentioned that there could be up to 120 to 180 of these individuals. i would suggest there's probably more, but these are the ones that we know about. there was a program that was started and it was specifically geared to look after these long wolves or maybe a little bit higher up the similar cells to do those things that were coming back from syria and iraq. they have provided good intelligence over the last 12

years. pamela? >> that's really interesting point that you make. i know that we learned that they're looking for more terrorists that might be connect today the cell. our sources are saying that they released a couple of people in belgium. what happens then? do you stay on them? what is your take on that? >> just like any other terrorist cell or any other network, if it's a -- if it falls into the category of person of interest, you're going continue to watch these individuals. what is better is that they know that they're being watched, so they're more careful. what happen in the belgium attack is that after the paris attacks there was probably a lot more chatter on the network and things happening saying that it's time to go now and the authority and police said let's put the hammer down and strike and get the cells. there may not have been anything that tipped them off. they knew that an attack might be coming because of what

occurred in paris, so they executed the raids and targets. they have been watching the individuals for several months likely. >> very concerning and we learn that even know that there's not a connection on the paris attacks and belgium, what happened here may have precipitated the raid there is and others maybe in bold to attack. thank you for sharing your perspective. we appreciate it. >> thank you pamela now, esis about the 12 people that were arrested here in france. you have been so busy reporting on this and we were going to come to you earlier, but you have information on the 12 suspects and how they may have been involved. >> yes, indeed. last night with the covered of darkness and the 12 people we're told are in custody. eight men and four woman and all suspect ofd having a role or

link with bali and helping him with the logistics if that means taking him to the kosher store. remember those smts believed to drove him or helped with the flat. they're reporting that authorities are telling them that there's a link in terms of dna. it's being linked one to the weapons found at the store, so linking him with the suspects and two the weapon ins the apartment. he had a second apartment and there was a stash of weapons and an isis flag linking some of the suspects dna and then the renter car. there's evidence there to some of the people as well as that suspect had a motorbike and the car believed to be on the run and in syria. you're starting to get an idea of the intelligence that the

authorities are chasing, but still as the pieces come together the picture that we get is so complex and more questions being asked every stage. >> we know that the 12 are just under investigation and being questioned. we do not know if there were come police sit and i want to talk about the suspects here. we know that one of them was laid to rest. we have been speaking to his lawyer, what can you tell us about that? >> if you remember the wife said that she wanted both brother to be buried together, but on the french law you can only be bury in the place where you grew up. so only he grew up here, so they said no to sied. the mayor said yesterday on television nope, i do not want him to be buried here, but he did not have a choice. we learned over night that he

has been buried over night. there was no mom. just the wife that was present. there was no authorities as well and his grave unmarked for the fear said the mayor that there would be activity and destroying the obviously the burial site, so that's what we're getting. we do not know when kouachi will be buried. >> in the wake of all of this there's really the sense of fear and people on edge here in france. i know that when i arrived here yesterday and checked in to my hotel, they checked my bags and someone was there and checking my bags. >> same happened to me. you go into a store and they asked in the shops. you look around and you see police and police and soldiers and heavily armed as well. this is something that they're not used to and any little sound

triggers and shocking people. they're so we are erie and very much still a city that's tense and raw. >> it's reeling from what is happening here last week. we're going keep on monitoring the situation right now in paris and across you are rope. i want to bring in christy and victor back in atlanta. >> thank you so much. we appreciate it. president obama is standing united with david cameron, but it's -- there are some points that they do not agree on. >> there are some. >> it was evident. >> yeah, there are some disagreements and we will talk about the commitment and the ways in which they communicate. also inside the world of intelligence sharing. we will tell you how it lead to a raid on a terror cell in belgium plus, what kpektly should the world call the

terrorists that attacked paris and planning an attack in belgium, are they extremists or islam mists? an expert weighs in on that one.

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all right. we have so much to talk about with the terror threat the europe. >> yeah, sources telling cnn as many as 20 sleeper cells ready to hit france, germany and belgium and the netherlands. >> a lot of people are talk about this and world leaders like president obama and united front against the kbroeing terror threat that we're seeing. >> yeah, aaron is at the white house for us this morning and following if angle. what are the two leaders pledging to do? >> well, good morning they're pledging to information share and they have agreed to set up

cyber cells to identify real abilities that hackers could exploit. >> in the wake of the vicious attacks in were paris and the news surfaces out of belgium, today we continue to stand not only with the french friends and allies but also with all of the partners that are dealing with this. >> president obama and british prime minister vowing to do more to disrupt the communications. >> we should try to avoid the safe havns. there's a real connection with that and the capabilities that our intelligence service within the law use to defend the people. >> one of the major sources is identify more than the 19,000 foreign fighters that have travelled to syria that maybe planning attacks.

>> social media and the internet is the primary way in which these terrorists organizations are communicating. now that's no different than anyone else, but they're good at it. when we have the ability to track that in a way that is legal, conforms with due process and rule of law and presents over sight, then that's the capability that we have to preserve. >> the british prime minister -- something that mr. obama say that is he is worried about. >> if we find evidence of a terrorists plot in the middle east that traces directly back to london or new york and we're confident that this individual or this network is about to activate a plot and despite

having a phone number or despite having social media address, we can penetrate that. that's a problem. >> one of the big challenges that bpt obama mentioned yesterday was privacy concerns especially given all of the concerns raised by snowden in 2013 christine and victor. >> thank you ann. we appreciate it as always. mitt romney, it's possible that he has hopes of winning the white house. he is hinting at a possible run. >> yeah, the question is what do the pe will you be kayens think about that? we will talk about that in a moment. 80% confidence and 64% knee brace. that's more... shh... i know that's more than 100%. but that's what winners give. now bicycle kick your old 401(k) into an ira. i know, i know. listen, just get td ameritrade's rollover consultants

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more security on the streets with this growing threat of ter roar. we have sleeper cells warnings, and arrests that have been made. we're monitoring and have a live report could remembering up to you at the bottom of the hour. >> let's turn to politics. myth romney has his eyes on the white house. he says that he is thinking for running for president again. >> now, there's some speck lax on whether i am about to embark on a political endeavor that has

previously been unsuccessful. i have no interest in running for the senator of massachusetts. seriously, for our party and for the nation 2016 is not going to be about the obama years. it's going to be about the post obama area and conservative principles are needed as ever in a lifetime. >> let's bring in mark and mark, so good to see you. now, you went to the pu publy can meeting. what are they saying about romney's plan? >> well, i think that everybody was caught by surprise and by the republican leaders that were meeting here this past week. all of a sudden b to get into the fray and a field that's growing and there are a dozen

reporters and a dozen republicans that are thinking of running for president, so is now myth romney might want to come back from the fray. just about 12 hours ago behind me, he made the declaration that he is thinking of coming back. i have to tell you for these leaders and activists and voters there's a bit of hesitation. they want to kick the tires on the new candidate and a fresh face into the republican party. having said that, he does have a goodwill and most importantly, he does have a way to raise the money. >> he has a infrastructure and the donor base, that's nothing. more writers have written on the low lives and the 47 percent and the comment of the 2012 campaign what is different about the message this time? >> it's interesting that you ask

that. when he was talking last night they told the fellow republicans that they need to have a fewer message. he talked about one of the pillar ins the talking point and that pe will you bely cans need to emphasize and bringing people out of poverty. now, when you go back to 2011 and 2012 myth was criticized for being out of touch. he was wealthy but not able to connect with voters, blue collar voters. he acknowledged that and that they need to do a good to reach out to them all over the country. >> delates can make it or break it for candidates. what do you know about the debates here on cnn? >> well a major anuancement was made just a few days here on the meeting. what they decided to do is peer

the debates down to roughly 12. we expect them to happen and three of those are going to appear on cnn. the first one is going to take place in september at the reagan library out in california. cnn held the last debate of 2008 out at the reagan library. look, republicans look at reagan as the father of the party, o so it's a fitting venue for them to talk about policy issues and try to different themselves. then we go to september that has a booming population out there and then march 2015 when there's a few candidate, we will see them hash it out. >> very exciting time and a lot happening as they candidates jump into the primary. mark preston, thank you. >> thank you mark. so terror were suspects can

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hello and pamela brown reports live from paris. great to have you along with us on this saturday. days after delowing an attack, there could be more suspects on the run. a belgium source says that authorities have called on the cia to help track down a suspect that was the master mind of the plan. meanwhile, officials say that there could be 20 sleeper cells plotting attacks in places like france, jermny and netherlands. so far more than two dozen arrested and some of the individuals had direct links to isis. we're learning information about one of the two brothers behind the massacre. according to the lawyer that spoke to cnn he was buried over night in a unmarked grave and no mom present accord to go the attorney. we're learning detalts on the raid of a terror cell and the

role that american intelligence played in the timing of it. our barbara joins us with it. >> pamela, all of this a rare look into the secrete world of intelligence cooperation between the u.s. and european intelligence. >> the u.s. intelligence committee was aware of the plot in belgium for weeks, and was sharing critical information with belgium authorities. the plot was disrupted in a spectacular fashion with the shot out and arrest of 17 people across western europe. >> this operation was meant to dismount a terrorist cell. not only a terrorist cell but the logistic network behind it. >> u.s. official say that is the entire plot was being monitored and watched. part of an ongoing relationship between the u.s. and european

intelligence services. >> we have active and ongoing law enforcement and information sharing arrangements with our allies in europe, and naturally those contacts continue. >> u.s. officials will not say precisely what they knew, how much they knew and when they nigh it. there are concerns that the details could signal others planning tacks. one official says that we were aware and tracking this and adding that there's a high probability that other attacks were being planned. a european security says that when belgium authorities arrested two men over the weekend, they squeezed them for information and decided to act quickly. the u.s. was aware of the timing of the moves by the law enforcement. >> many of the individuals that they're targeting now are on u.s. watch lists.

of course the concern is that once the guys go and fight and go back to europe, they can go to the united states without visa's on a five or six hour plane ride. >> they estimate more than 19,000 foreign fighters have travelled to syria and hundreds of them maybe with isis that's vowed to send loyalists to the west to attack. >> as you know it's headquarters in belgium and trr too looking at stepping up the security measures. pamela. >> barbara, thank you very much for that. one of the most wanted woman in the world is believe to be hiding out in isis control territory. he is a wanted terror suspect in connection with the resent wave of the attacks in paris. she slipped from turkey into syria and no one has seen her sense. how can they track terrorists and would be when they're chris

crossing the borders? that's the the big question. let's bring in cnn analyst lieutenant mark. that's for coming back on to join us. one of the big challenges are all of the thousands of people from europe and the u.s. going over to fight with syria and then wanting to return back to the homeland. how do governments or what kind of tools do government itself have to track the terror suspects? >> well, it's primarily the sharing of intelligence at different locations and the counter intelligence and analysts. throughout europe the united states has not only the embassies with the country teams and all that have intelligence capabilities but as you mentioned pamela the nato is there and they have a significant intelligence role and connecting the dots between the countries. 50 countries in europe and each one has a train. there are several united states

intelligence centers if you will throughout the nation that is individuals move in and out of syria and in and out of iraq. they can track them through the border and entry and exit points. some of them are more secure and you can pick up someone and just track them back. that's what you're seeing in the belgium operation. those individuals were probably picked upcoming out and into turkey and going through the coke souse and so you track and share information. i think that the united states provides as well as the eu and nato provides the great synapsis on where the intelligence is connected and watching the individual as they move. certainly in the last couple of years as i sis has expanded significantly, it's not like watching small cells anymore. this is a much larger problem.

pamela. >> it is clear information sharing is key here. i want to toss to a sound bite and listen to what she had to say. >> i am concerned and in particular between the eu member country that is the terror watch list are not where they need to be. again that the individuals are not being tracked as closely as they need to be if at all. unless and until that happens you can talk about intelligence sharing and other things that need to occur, but if the value and the quality of that is not accurate or not complete, then that just shows that we have got some huge gapping holes within our national security. >> she says that in lights would happen here in paris. what do you think? is she right? are the nations not tracking the terror suspects? what are the thoughts on that?

>> i heard gabby's interview, and i do not agree with everything that she has said. i have been there and seen it. i have commanded u.s. army forces in you are skproep spent seven of the last 12 years there and then three additional watching the intelligence sharing. the various governmental agencies in europe do actively share the intelligence. they have sa naps between them and the nato and the countries know that it's in the best interest to share the information. that's about 40 km from the german borders and they got into belgium and coming into all of europe. we actively track the movement throughout you are roam. i think that the real issue is we have just seen an up tick in the numbers. this we saw in the paris attack that some come on to the watch

list and because nothing happens, they fall off. i think that because of the o potential for the sleeper cells we will watch more closely the individuals. we have said over the last few weeks that you can not just watch everybody. intelligence is not 100 percent affective. i think that i would tamp down what congress gabby says because she has not seen it. i would invite her to take a look at the some of the things that nato has in place before making the statements. >> let's just touch on what you were talking about and the supply and demand issue. with the brothers i was told that authorities reached a point that after a few years they were not doing anything and had bigger fish to fry and they simply do not have the manpower to watch people like the brothers if they're doormat for a few years and stay on the radar. what do you do with the problem

that have returned and not doing anything and then might launch a terror attack. what's the solution there? >> there's no solution. you can not simply watch everyone. unless someone says hey, this individual has some type of activity planned, you can not continue to watch for it and cannot continue to provide resources. this gets into the difficult debate between privacy and what is available on either taps to wires or phones to other intelligent sources and leaving people alone, and in a western society this is what terror groups are using against us. we can not watch everybody that might have some small thing or just even a thing that we have travelled somewhere and have done something. the other thing that you could possibly do is that the courts could be harder on some of the activities. we saw in the brothers that they were in fact tried and then

released. you can not hold someone for a life prison term just like we're seeing in some other places that have captured terrorists and must release them after a while. it's human rights and dignity. >> yeah. there are legal parameters to consider as well. >> exactly. >> we're going keep on monitoring in paris and europe. i want to send it back to christy and victor in atlanta. >> thank you so very much christy. when we talk of terror, a lot are wondering what does it mean for the u.s.? we know that the faa is ramping up security. how that can can impact you were the terrorists attacks carried out by islamist or extremists. we ex-plain the difference.

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our ko rage continues and how it's impacting the u.s. cnn learned that the faa is put

approximating some new rules in place. the government regulation has details for us this morning. good morning rene. >> christy and victor the headline from the conversation with secretary johnson is that another round of ramped up measures at the airports is under way. it's unclear if they will be seen or unseen changes, but johnson says that it's in response to the threat streams that they're seeing now. >> we have e evolved to a new phase in the global terrorists threat. >> the head of homeland revealing that more measures are on the way. >> we're looking at doing more in the short term in reaction to some of the threat streams that we're seeing now. >> this after dhs announced earlier this week and ramped up searches over fears that terrorists are creating nonmetallic explosive and capable of passing through airport scanners undetected.

>> when you talk about measures as far as aviation, what would that look like and what is the time line for that and what is the new intelligence? >> well, i looked at it and told my folks that i wanted an accessment in a short term. i expect to get that in the next couple of days. >> so it's unclear on what the measures are? >> we're looking at it now. >> additional random checks are happening now once travellers have cleared tsa checkpoints. once they published a step by step guide to building hard to detect bombs. following september 11th transportation systems continue to be a about for terrorists. in 2005 four suicide bombs detonated within seconds of each other and three different trains traveling through london's underground stations. in 2010 one pled guilty for plotting to blow up new york

subways. >> we need to focus more on homeland base threats. >> just this week a malfunction caused smoke to fill a dc metro station and killing one and injuries a disease more. passengers were waiting for more than 40 minutes and raising questions on how prepared the u.s. is to respond to emergencies on the nations transportation systems. >> one had to have wonder what if that was set by terrorists. clearly the response was inadequate. >> johnson struck a tone and saying that the department is accessing new intelligence and threats everyday and every hour. christy, victor. >> all right. thank you. we appreciate it. now, former tsa tom blank joining us via phone and thank you for being with us. already we're on an alert after the paris atakes. what would these new rules mean

for travelers specifically? >> well i think that they will mean primarily three things. first of all many passengers that are not members of precheck or global entry and the ex-pla dieted screening program are pulled out and randomly put into the lines and passed through very quickly. i think that you will likely see less people that are not formally in the programs and put into the lines which means that the lines may get a little bit longer. secondly you will see the increasing on the checkpoints of the body imaginers. that's how they detect the nonmetallic threat. that might make the lines longer, and then thirdly as you mentioned in the reporting you will see random checks primarily of carry on bags inside the security area and down by the

area where people are boarding aircrafts. >> now, you mentioned reports of the nonmetallic bombs. how expansive is that develop, i guess and how immediate might the threat be from that specifically? >> well, it's a little hard to say specifically because what we know is that the bad guys are constantly working to evolve explosive materials into new kinds of compounds. they're constantly trying to find ways to detonate ex-employees ich and domes that are nontraditional. it appears from johnson's comments is that one of the concerns is that they may have nonspecific and nondefinitive intelligence that says some new configuration of explosive that does not use any medal in the

power system or the detonation mechanism is something that they want to be on the look out for and it's probably driven some of this heightened security procedure. >> okay. well former tsa tom blank here. we appreciate it. >> thank you. have a nice day. >> you too what is in the name? are they extremist, islamists? why does it mat? we have answers just ahead. start the interview with a firm handshake. firm, but not too firm. make eye contact...smile. ay,no! don't do that! try new head & shoulders instant relief. it has tea tree and peppermint that cools on contact. and also keeps you 100% flake free. i use it for cooling scalp relief in a snap.

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we'll have more on how this terror alert is impacting the u.s. in a moment. >> but we want to get back to pamela brown. good morning to you, pam. >> reporter: well, good morning to both of you, victor and christi. one of the questions we're grappling with. what should the world call the terrible terrorist acts? to does this i want to bring in a doctor. she is a muslim and written a new article in london spectator magazine about the need to name terrorism. if you would, dr. ahmed, explain what you need by that. >> i feel the discourse in the

united states is shying away from the ideology that's inspiring these acts in paris. that ideology is known to political scientists and i call it islamism. certainly islamism has many facets and the one in paris was jihadist. one is the evolution of any teaching jihad in the koran. that's a complex idea. and another feature in paris is the islamist central tenant on acting in genocidal -- these are values of islamism. >> so then in your view, what should these terrorists being called? >> these terrorists are islamists. they are acting as islamist ideologues. they're fulfilling one aspect of

islamism, which is diabolical jihadism. their expression is absolutely false. but they are behaving and conducting their actions as jihadists. that's what we should call them. i see them as distinct from terrorism. the there are many more terrorist experts who can talk about this. i'm from britain. you might think about the ira or eta, tied to certain political deman demands, cl one thinks jihadist or not. but it's totalitarian ambition that's not really going to be appeased by any compromise from the democrats. >> let's talk about the ideology that may be driving these terrorists. because they do identify, they

say that they're muslims, but they follow mohabism. tell us the difference between that extreme version of islam between what you as a muslim practice in your faith. >> i think that's a very complicated question. the western term came out of britain is the name given to the austere islam most embodied by saudi arabia that came out of the 17th century. many individuals will not have these actions that we're seeing in paris. the parisian actors or the islamists, as i call them, are seeking a totalitarian accomplishment to achieve their vision of a global caliphate. they also wanted to wound us most profoundly in one of the most celebrated democracies by attacking secular values.

that means pluralism, freedom of speech and expression. so i accept it's not the version of islam i follow. but i think that's too simplistic. >> okay. dr. ahmed, thank you so much for coming on and sharing your perspective on this. very interesting to talk with you. we're going to keep monitoring the situation in paris and across europe. christi and victor, back to you in atlanta. >> before you go, pamela, i wonder if you can give us a taste of what it feels like there. what the mood is pane what you've noticed is different this time around in your trip to paris. >> absolutely. so i arrived here to paris at 6:00 a.m. yesterday morning. and immediately you get the sense people are on edge. we are here and as soon as we walked into the hotel, they did a security check.

they checked our begs and everything. and i was with my producer who was actually just here a few days before. she flew back to the u.s. and back to paris. she said they didn't do that when i was here a few days ago. so you get the sense there is fear. people are on edge. especially because we know authorities are still investigating. the concern is they could be here in paris, just like the kouachi brothers. just like coulibaly. >> we'll continue our coverage at the top of the hour. stay with us. if yand you're talking toevere rheumyour rheumatologiste me, about a biologic...

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police and security forces chase down potential terrorism. and in belgium, new concerns members of one of the terror cells are on the one with possible links to isis. and new details of another round of increaseded security at

airports across the country. despite all of that, we will wish you a good morning. >> yes. so glad to have you with us. i'm christi paul. i'm victor blackwell. let's get to pamela brown live in paris. >> reporter: good morning to you. right now countries across europe are on high alert for terror suspects on the rum and belgium wants the cia's help. western source telling cnn as many as 20 sleeper cells with 180 terrorists may be poised to strike in france and germany and belgium. belgian troops are out in force today and 13 suspecteded militants were detailed in belgium, sweeping anti-terror raids. police shot dead two suspects and about a dozen people were also arrested in france, and three in germany. those arrested in belgium were a part of a plot to assassinate

police in the streets. and we're learning of a possible isis connection to that plot. that's a counter terrorism official said they ordered recruits to return to europe from syria's battlegrounds to launch attacks. that is the big concern. so let's dig in deeper here at the latest anti-terrorism operations with cnn's isa suarez. here in paris, separate from the belgium raids. we learned a dozen people were arrested in connection to one of the suspects. what do we know about them? coulibaly. he is the man killed on friday in the kosher store. he's the partner of the woman in syria. she's on the run. so police are saying 12 people have been arrested. eight men. four women. all suspected of having some sort of logistical support to coulibaly. we don't know if it's driving him to the the kosher store or providing weapons or renting the second apartment that we know he

had. we do not know what kind of support they've had. but what we have learned, sources telling a french newspaper that they found dna evidence linking these people with indeed coulibaly. they found dna that linked them on the weapons, belonging to coulibaly, that links them together. also the car that he drove or he drove to the kosher supermarket. dna evidence there that links them, or one of these suspects to them. and the stash of weapons, if you remember, pam, police found in the second apartment. there was a lot of weapons there. almost like for a war environment rather than the streets of paris. dna evidence linking the suspects to coulibaly. so you start to get a sense of the network behind some of these vinls. in the early days. they were saying lone wolf

attack. he always pledged allegiance to al qaeda arabian peninsula. but he clearly has, from what we're hearing, some supportive network. whether it's financial, we do not know. we do know that he took out $7,000 or so in the north of france, and the idea of people connecting the dots is that he took the money out and then drove across the border and exchanged one of the cars for a weapon. >> and still under investigation. a lot of questions. authorities are still trying to nail down the answers to. and now we want to cease on a rare opportunity. right now, the struggling state is a breeding ground for terrorists, including al qaeda in the ioarabian peninsula. yemen is where the two kouachi brothers are believed to

received orders to launch their rampage on "charlie hebdo." nick walsh has more on the terrorist op-ed. >> yemen so key to the investigation of al qaeda in the arabian peninsula are facing. it's an economy on the edge of collapse. always struggling to hold on. the peninsula based here calling the violence in paris. and the question is we know from one official that said kouachi first came here in august of 2009. until potentially 2011, even 2012. the question is, did his brother also come here, perhaps using his older brother's passport? that would be cherif traveling under the assumed identity of his brother. and most importantly, al qaeda

claimed anwar al awlaki was the organizer behind the attacks. did the relationship between those two brothers and al qaeda in yemen end in 2011. did they have the resources to make the attacks then? or was there a continuing network of communications and resources logistics that continued until the start of those attacks in paris just over a week ago now? vital things investigators need to establish because if there is a continued relationship, they'll want to try circumvent and stop that as quickly as possible. pamela? and the belgian security defense minister is holding a live press conference any minute now. we'll bring you any developments that may come from that.

police are ramping up security after foiling the terror plot. let's go straight to ivan watson. you've been following the story for us. tell us where are the troops in belgium being deployed? >> well, we've seen them deploying here in brussels outside the great zsynagogue of europe, as it's known here, which went ahead with normal saturday jewish services. also outside the jewish museum, just a few blocks from where i'm standing right now, which was the target of the deadly attack last may that resulted in the deaths of four people. the man who was charged with that attack, a french citizen being charged with murder, who is believed the to have traveled previously to syria. now this is a very unusual scene.

the armed forces deploying in the streets, not only of br brusse brussels, but also to protect the jewish neighborhood in that city. and it just goes to show how seriously the authorities are taking this threat after belgian police carried out this raid thursday night. it resulted in the deaths of two suspects. a third was captured. take a look pat what they have to say about the alleged foil plot. >> we cannot say any u.s. interests were involved or targeted by the group. this group was especially targeting belgium police and planned to kill belgian policemen in the streets or throughout buildings.

they especially were planning to assassinate policemen. i know in the press there has been rumors of kidnapping people and beheading people, but at this stage of the investigation, we cannot confirm that. >> the police say they seized not only assault rifles and explosives, but also police uniforms in the raid, that backs up the claim that they think the targets would have been police. the belgian authorities are so far withholding the names of the suspects, they say, to protect the investigation. these are believed to have traveled previously to syria. believed the to have isis links. not believed to have any ties whatsoever to the deadly attack on the offices of the magazine "charlie hebdo" in paris where

you are. pamela? >> and you just mentioned something that some of these suspects had tied to isis. can you tell us more about that and how authorities are looking into that and what led them to believe that they are connected to isis? >> you know, this is an area where the authorities are not revealing a lot of information. so we're just going to wait, perhaps. some out of the belgian defense ministry. they're really keeping their cards close to their chest on this. with the full awareness that europe has had hundreds and thousands of citizens that have traveled to syria to join in the ranks of isis as that militant group is such a potent force in iraq and syria over the last

several years. in france, belgium. and two people reported in germany. and returned hoim to europe after spending time in syria in the middle east with that militant organization. >> and that is so concerning because we're learning from officials that isis directing the foreign fighters to go back to their homelands to launch attacks. we're monitoring the press conference. and i'm going to turn it back over to christi and victor in atlanta as we continue to monitor the situation in paris and across europe. >> thank you, pamela. we're going to talk more about the terror concerns in the u.s. there have been so many changes over the last decade or more

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my colleague. >> just a few saying the technical aspects, the general details first of all. we have to react very quickly. secondly, this is an unusual environment we have to be able to work in. and thirdly, the operations are taking place under the command of the police. the controls of the police and the responsibility of the military. those are big differences concerning other military aspects.

>> so the preparation starts on the 15th of january. that was yesterday. it's the time we started discussions on the practical arrangements, the operational arrangements for this deployment. and who was in charge. how would we make sure that people are explained, how this will work in practice, and also what the rules of engagement are. so those rules of engagement had to be discussed. we had the specialist of defense to gather the legal experts to try to sketch a framework that would allow us to stay within the legal framework, because of

course we to consider these are unusual circumstances on belgian territory. however, we have to make sure we guarantee the security of the stock and the safety of the stock and we were able to mobilize as we should. >> jouf been listening to security officials in belgium describe the major changes now in effect after 20 raids across -- well, 17 raids in europe. we're going to cover more of what's happening in europe. pam brown is in paris. i want to go to julia for the latest on the terror concerns here in the u.s. #. >> good morning. thank you for being with us. so what we're seeing play out, are you confident that the u.s. is doing enough to find and track potential terrorists. >> well, look, there's no

perfect security in a country like hour ours, so we're never safe. we have levels of being safer. the way we think about it is a layer defense given the threats out there. there are a number of things going on. from intelligence to supporting state and local law enforcement to more stringent tsa standards at the airport to also engaging the public so they know what's going on and they are aaware of the threat that we have right now. and it's different people that make us safer in a world too big, too vibrant. too many people are traveling around to say, well, we're perfectly safe. that's the balance and the challenge that's going to confront this administration and the next one, given the threat we're facing now. >> let's talk about the kinds of threat. and i want to get your thoughts on something that former defense

secretary leon panetta told fareed zakaria. >> you have terrorists coming at us from a lot of different directions, from isis, from boko haram. they are recruiting like crazy from these various wars in syria and iraq and yemen. and they seem to be involved in more planning and more weapons in terms of the types of attacks that they're working on. and so i think it's pretty clear from what we're seeing, that we are entering a more threatening and dangerous period in this war on terrorism. >> so juliet, do you believe that the american people should be concerned that we are indeed moving into a more dangerous period? >> yeah, i think we are. i i this something has changed this year in 2015.

where the -- there's a combination of both the sort of lone wolf, somewhat sociopathic terrorist that lives here and watches social media and do things very hard to detect. the good news with them is they pose much less threat. their violence tends to be not as bad as the other type that we're seeing formed in the west, which is the highly organized, hily successful coordinated terrorist attacks. that second group has obviously shown itself in western europe. intelligence sharing is the best way to thwart or undermine their attack. we saw that in belgium. in france we did not. in the sense that the intelligence was not fast enough and not coordinated enough for the french and the international community to stop that attack. and unfortunately, you know,

they have to only win once, right? or only be successful once. we have to p be successful every single time. and that's going to the be kind of world we live in and brace for in the years to come. >> juliet, stay with us. we appreciate it so much. we're checking back in with her in a couple of minutes. that leon panetta interview, you'll see more of that with fareed zakaria. >> and there have been some developments. let's go to the java sea where the search and recovery now of the pieces and the victims of the flight 8501 crash, there have been big developments there. but bringing it to the surface. finding the victims and bringing the pieces up. that's going to be pretty difficult. >> we're going to talk to an expert about what it would take to rebuild that plane. find out what happens to the ill fated flight and what about for these families? when can those be returned to the families?

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hello. i'm pamela brown reporting live from paris following a lot of developments on this saturday. just days after officials foiled a major terrorist plot in belgium. law enforcement officials say there could be more suspects on the run as we speak. a belgian source says authorities have called on the cia to help track them down as a suspect they believe was a mastermind of the plan. meanwhile, officials say there could be up to 20 sleeper cells plotting attacks in places like france, germany and the netherlands. so far more than two dozen people have been arrested in france and belgium, and officials say some of those individuals have direct links to isis. we're also learning new information about said kouachi, one of the two brothers behind the "charlie hebdo" massacre. according to his lawyer, kouachi was buried in an unmarkeded

grave north of paris. as dozens are arrested in raids across europe, counter terror officials are planning how wide the sleeper cell threat may be. how does a sleeper cell work? brian todd takes a closer look. >> a western official says there's huge concern over the danger of sleeper cells in europe and elsewhere. the worry is over the unknown. when, where and how they'll strike. a terror cell disrupted. but europe is braces for more attacks. a western intelligence source tells cnn there could be several sleeper cells ready to strike in france, germany, belgium and the netherlands. now new concerns about the planning and timing. >> and worries are how and when will they be activated. >> former jihadists say a sleeper cell is made up of a few

operatives. they're acting on behalf, taking instructions from it, or are inspired by a group and acting on their own. as paris gunman coulibaly did. they're living in the city where they want to strike, selecting targets. >> they're there there. they have the ability to cross borders and live without being on the radar screen. >> they're highly skilled at blending in. >> they'll have regular jobs. you may see them at the strip joint drinking alcohol. >> anything to take off the claim or suspicion they may be extremist muslim terrorists. >> the 9/11 hijackers did that. reportedly drinking heavily in bars. some even going to strip clubs. this is a former jihadist who almost went to iraq to fight. he helped bust a terror cell in

toron toronto. he says many sleeper operatives don't communicate over the internet or by phone. don't go to mosques. don't give a hint of your religion. >> could be shave your beard. remove your religious garb. anything to blend in. that will be determined by the handler or sometimes the operatives in the cell itself. >> sleeper cells lay dormant, sometimes for years. >> they wait for the opportune moment when the world attention is turned away, when their planning phase is over to strike. >> and the sleeper cell dynamic is always changing. a u.s. counter terrorism official told me these days terror cells do a lot less sleeping. they actively plot, hope to avoid suspicion, and they very often direct the terror strike themselves, rather than wait for a signal. our brian todd, thanks for that reporting. let's get more on this issue.

let's talk about the so-calleded sleeper cells. the kouachi brothers, one of them at least we know of trained in yemen in 2011ment a few years level launches terror attacks. so what do authorities do about that? what is the solution there? i was thinking one authority on the ground last night. look, they didn't do anything. we had bigger fish to fry, so we moved on. what's the solution? >> right. that's exactly right. i want to pick up on that last point brian just made. i think that's the most important aspect of the challenge that counter terrorism officials have now, this notion of a sleeper cell really should be put to rest in some regards. a sleeper cell is a group of people that want to attack and are sort of directed by a senior leader. think of al qaeda in 2000 or 2001 where bin laden is essentially saying go, don't go. depending on what he wanted to do.

that idea of this hierarchy of the terrorist organization is long gone. part of it is a result of the wars in afghanistan and iraq. now we have a way of being trained. getting money, ammunition and guns. but they are deciding their own timing on their own. so they're never really asleep. they're never really waiting for anyone. this is clearly what we saw in france. they were traineded three years ago but left on their own. so one way to deal with the new phenomenon is to sort of target the people who may have the means to do the attack and those who have gone abroad. but the idea that there will be a triggering, sort of go ahead and do it will not happen anymore. the leadership is so flat lined. >> right. i was talking to on official last night. he called it highly franchised

terrorism. general instructions, sent on their way, and they decide the time and the place, which makes it more challenging. so in light of that, do you think it's impossible to track every terror threat we're facing here in europe and the u.s.? >> yeah. i do. i just think that the nature of the threat, that idea of a franchise is actually a great way to put it. it's so, sort of all over the place, and therefore no place, we have to receive there's vulnerabilities -- not because we're not safe enough, but simply given the nature of the world now. people are moving too much. so the way to combat it is not to throw up our hands but to try to target our intelligence. and resources on the highest threat. if you look at what happens in france, it's clear that the french intelligence agencies were not communicating with each

other that the brothers were on a higher list or more surveyed. that's something the french will have to learn. why a gap between what we knew that they did abroad and what should be happening in france domestically. we have to learn as we go along to fix the errors. >> their case does highlight the issue of people going overseas. whether it's in yemen or syria to fight with isis, coming back to the homelands and launching attacks. a slow motion car accident happening right before our eyes. it's a huge issue. juliet, thank you for coming onto talk about this. >> thank you. >> and tributes continue for the 12 victims of the attack on french magazine "charlie hebdo." for ways you can support and pay tribute, go to cnn.com/impact. and of course, we'll keep monitoring the situation right now, right here in paris and across europe. but for now i'm going to send it back to christi and victor in atlanta. back to you guys. >> all right, pamela, thank you

so much. coming up, oots round of ramped up security measures at amrpt as across the u.s. >> officials are on high alert for terrorism and what it means for you the the next time you travel.

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19 minutes till the top of the hour. the faa is putting new rules in place, including expanding a program that allows them to bypass screening check points. >> it's a move coming after security breaches involving firearms and recent terror attacks. cnn aviation and government regulation correspondent renee march sh is breaking this down for for us. good morning, renee. >> christi and victor, the headline from my conversation with secretary johnson is another round of ramped up measures at our nation's airports is on the way. it's unclear if these will be seen or unseen changes. but johnson says it's in response to threat streams we're

seeing now. >> we've evolved to a new phase in the global terrorist threat. >> the head of homeland security revealing more airport security measures are on the way. this after dhs announceded ramped up rules after fears terrorists are creating nonmetallic explosives, capable of passing through airport scanners undetected. >> when you talk about more measures as far as aviation goes. what would that look like. what is the timeline for that? what is the the new intelligence? >> we're looking at it right now. i told my folks i wanteded an assessment in the very short term. i expect to get that in the next couple of days. >> so it's unclear what the extra measures will be. >> we're looking at it right now. >> additional random and passenger luggage checks are happening a t the gate. once travelers have cleared tsa

checkpoints. after al qaeda and the arabian peninsula published a step by step guide to building hard to detect bombs. following september 11th, transportation systems continue to be a target for terrorists. in 2005 four suicide bombs detonated within seconds of each other on a bus and three different trains traveling through london underground stations. in 2010, a man pleaded guilty for plotting to blow up new york subways. >> we need to focus more on homeland based threats. >> just this week an electrical malfunction caused smoke to fill a d.c. metro station, killing one and injuring dozens more. passengers were left waiting 40 minutes before emergency responders helped them evacuate, raising serious questions about how prepared the u.s. is to respond to emergencies on the nation's transportation system. >> one does have to wonder what would have happened had that

fire been sent by terrorists. and clearly the response was inadequate. >> well, johnson struck a reassuring tone saying the department is assessing new intelligence and threats every day and every hour. christi, victor? >> renee marsh, thank you. suddenly people are edge as we hear about terror tlots. a man was plotting to attack the u.s. capitol. he's in jail now. from ohio. but what can be legally done to prevent potential attacks? out of 42 vehicles... based on 6 different criteria... why did a panel of 11 automotive experts... ... name the volkswagen golf motor trend's 2015 car of the year? we'll give you four good reasons the all-new volkswagen golf starting at $17,995.

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the the the u.s. is also dealing with its own homegrown jihadist. in ohio, a man is charged with planning a shooting attack on the u.s. capitol. he's being held without bond. >> and jury selection is on for the boston marathon bombing trial. let's bring in legal analyst joey jackson. >> joey, want to start with you here. wondering in the ohio case, what kind of legal action can be taken against people who are planning terror attacks but haven't taken legal action,

let's say. >> good morning to you. good morning, victor. good morning, mel. i think there's three parts. the first is vigilant law enforcement action. i think we saw that in ohio. what does that mean? it means law enforcement monitoring social media. very adept at working with other agencies to ensure the terror attacks don't occur. then when you get from the vigilant law enforcement, you go to the arrest, and then after the arrest you go to the prosecution. and i think what you look to in terms of the law is whether you can successfully prosecute it. keep in mind you need not have an actual attack to be prosec e prosecut prosecuteded. what is an aattempt? an attempt is furthering that act. we saw it in ohio by virtue of the plotting, the planning, the meeting of an informant to carry out the researching of bombs and purchasing of ammunition. if law enforcement is vigilant, if they work with the prosecution and ultimately bring

people to justice, you can thwart these attacks and thank goodness in ohio that looks like it was done. >> let's talk about not just the planning, but the execution. we know the tsarnaev brothers, accused of the boston bombing. but his trial is coming up. why is it so difficult to convene a jury? to choose a jury? it remains to be sceeen. it's an excellent question. they suspect it will take five to six weeks to find 18 jurors to impanel. and one of the things that will make the process slower is because of these attacks in paris, because of the kind of media coverage that has been nonstop and because of the number of parallels drawn between boston and terror attacks and the fact that the two brothers were involved in

both. the defense has tried to delay the jury selection, saying it's going to poison the jury pool. they want things to die down. the judge did deny the motion. but now you're going to see an intense amount of questioning by the defense. about whether or not the paris attacks are going to impact their ability to just listen to this case. you have to be willing to impose the death penalty if there's an a conviction, and if in the sentencing phase they put forth evidence that, you know, shows that he should be put to death for the crimes. and the decision is overwhelmingly. and those are two factors that could delay finding 18 impartial jurors. but i do think there will be a panel in bost nonin the matter

of a few weeks. >> i want to ask you quickly, joey, i heard experts say accused terrorist christopher lee cornell in ohio was arrested in an unusual way wch. what do you think? >> well, i think the police officers got it right in working with the prosecution. and i think that ultimately, it didn't really matter that he didn't make it to washington, d.c. i think a lot of attention is focused on, wait a second, you have him charged with attempting to kill government officials, but he didn't get near the capitol. so the question then becomes, should we kwait, christi, for hm to pose a threat in washington, d.c. before the arrest is made. i think the answer is no. i think the law answers that question. did you take a substantial step in furthering of your criminalalty? pane when you're planning and plotting and purchasing weaponing, the answer is resoundingly yes. >> all right. joey jackson and mel robbins, always appreciate you being here. >> thank you, christi. >> so just a few moments ago we brought you the news conference out of belgium. the authorities there talking

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we have breaking news into cnn just now. according to many security officials -- kidnapped by gunmen this morning. the abduction of dr. mubarak was immediately condemned on twitter by the uk ambassador to yemen. we'll keep up with this. the chief of staff of yemeni president kidnapped by gunmen this morning. in the java sea, high waves and strong currents are preventing them from accessing the fuselage in the cockpit of the plane that crashed a few weeks ago. searchers spotted it a few weeks ago in the cockpit and engine. conditions have not allowed divers to inspect the wreckage

or lift it to the surface. we have bobbie with us, a former u.s. navy captain and diver. bobbie, i want to know with your experience and recovery of twa flight 800, what types of conditions are required to get the divers into the water there, and is it likely we'll see those in the java sea any time soon? >> good morning, victor and thank you for having about the divers. these navy divers are heroic men and sometimes women. and they work under these tremendous heroic or tremendous conditions e almost every day. they've had a lot of trouble in the java sea, as we've seen. but they show time and time again they continue to work to get the job done. and i think they're going to continue to do that in this case. they're going to have to wait until the seas settle l down again.

and to get back in and get into the water. u they're also going to have to wait until there's a window of opportunity to get down onto the fu fuselage, the piece we're most interested in to see if they can recover the rest of the passengers and crew that we hope are in the fuselage. we need conditions on the bottom where the currents are less than the two to four knots that we keep finding down there. >> bobbie, we've talk eed a lot about it, and we'll continue to talk about the victims and loved ones. if you're a diver going in and know you're going to find a large number of people who died in a plane, maybe strapped in seat belts inside the fuselage, how does one prepare psychologically for that? it's a tough job. you have to prepare yourself

mentally for that. these divers know what they're up against. part of the training that they get, in most cases they're military divers. some may be law enforcement or commercial divers. part of the training deals with that. but primarily they are focused on the mission. and this is a dangerous dive. this is deep water for them. and they need to focus on conducting the dive and the operation safely. and that's what they have to focus onto get it done completely. and try to set aside the emotional aspects of the mission because they are really concerneded with getting this mission done so that they can bring back these loved ones for the family members. an then they think about all the emotional parts of this mission

after it is completed. and that's how you zeal with that subject. >> quickly, bobbie, what will their role be in bringing not just the victims up but the pieces of the plane. >> well, of course, they have to work with the investigators to see what the priorities are. right now the priorities are to bring back the victims first. but as the investigators look at what information they pull off the voice and data recorder, the investigators are going to prioritize what other parts and pieces of the aircraft they need to determine the cause of the crash. and they're going to work with the dive team to determine what parts of the aircraft are the highest priority. they slow sli determined what areas of the aircraft they really needed to focus on. those are what parts of the the aircraft they needed to bring back. a lot of times they need the

whole airplane back. i'm sure their going to want the section of fuselage, which is a huge section. that's going to be very complex salvage. >> as you said, the victims the most important part. thank you for your insight. that's it for us. we'll be back here at 10:00 eastern. good morning, i'm michael smerconish. breaking news this morning one weeks after the terror attacks in france. thousands of police and soldiers are spread out across neighboring belgium guarding government sites, schools and synagogues. and the high alert extends all over europe amid frightening no evidence terror plots are around the country. but first, this map shows some of the country's americans love to visit when they travel abroad, but sejs sources tell