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they need the whole airplane back. i'm sure their going to want the section of fuselage which is a huge section. that's going to be very complex salvage. >> as you said the victims the most important part. thank you for your insight. that's it for us. we'll be back here at 10:00 eastern. good morning, i'm michael smerconish. breaking news this morning one weeks after the terror attacks in france. thousands of police and soldiers are spread out across neighboring belgium guarding government sites, schools and synagogues. and the high alert extends all over europe amid frightening no evidence terror plots are around the country. but first, this map shows some of the country's americans love to visit when they travel
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abroad but sejs sources tell cnn these are the nations where terror cells could be ready to strike in france germany, belgium and the the netherlands, as many as 20 sleeper cells and between 120 and 180 people said to be ready to attack. what does that mean here at home? fareed zakaria put that question to a man who would know former cia director leon panetta. >> it sounds like secretary panetta, you are more worried based on what has happened over the last few weeks and particularly in paris and you feel that this could happen in new york. this could happen in many many places in the world. >> i don't think there's any question. i think what we're seeing as i said is a much more aggressive chapter, and a much more dangerous chapter in terms of
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the war on terrorism. what happened in paris, what happened in ottawa what happened in belgium is something that we need to understand that these terrorists are now engaged in a much more aggressive effort based on recruiting. based on what's happening in syria and iraq and yemen, they're engaged in a much more aggressive effort to conduct violence in europe and it's a matter of time before they direct it to the united states as well. >> right now we have reporters all over the world. cnn's ivan watson in brussels. nick payton walsh in yemen, and deborah feyerick in new york with the latest on the investigation. let's start with ivan watson in brussels where soldiers are in front of the jewish museum. a scene of a deadly attack a year ago by a gunman having
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suspected joining syria. ivan what is the very latest? >> well the belgians have deployed for the first time in years, really, decades, perhaps, armed forces on the streets of two cities. guarding a number of installations, including the u.s. embassy, protecting a number of jewish buildings. the synagogue here in brussels. the youish museum and different places in the jewish district. this is clearly a response to the raid that belgian police carried out on thursday night where suspects opened fire on the place. it was in an eastern town and two suspects were killed. a third captured. and the belgian authorities say they believe they were planning two attack belgian police and they say they found police uniforms in the possession of
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the suspects as well as weapons and explosives to back those claims. so the belgian authorities on the lookout right now. they say that this cell that they managed to stop does not appear to have been linked two the attackers who carried out the deadly assault on "charlie hebdo" in paris. michael? >> ivan you spent many years covering turkey. so i want to ask a follow-up about the claim that the country is becoming a pathway for jihadists seeking to go back and forth between syria and europe. germany's head of domestic intelligence said recently that 90% of the jihadists in his country travel through turkey. turkey is one of the strongest allies thought to have strong anti-terror operations. how good is their intelligence? >> well there's no question that turkey has been the main transit point for people from pigters, wanna-be fighters going
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to syria. it has a very long border and isis controls a big chunk of the border. the turings say they've cracked down and they've been intercepting thousands of people trying to get into syria. someed wanna-be jihadists. the partner of the cheb attackers in paris is she traveled from madrid to istanbul tur kish officials say on january 2nd and is believed to have since then traveled to syria. even though they claim that they are cracking down they showed me some of the measures they've taken along the border to make it less course.
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there's no question that supporter of isis are still using it as way to get in as are the enemies. some of the militant groups combatting against isis. and that's a major challenge still for the turks to deal with. now to yemen. a dangerous country that is headquarters in the peninsula. a major news network that made it into yemen. joining ne now from the capital is cnn senior international correspondent nick payton walsh. i understand that you have breaking news for us. >> we just heard in the last few minutes that according to one yem knee official briefed on security matters, two french citizens have been detained in yemen. al qaeda in the arabian peninsula.
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this occurred as they were trying to leave the country a few months ago. that doesn't necessarily mean these individuals had no connection or knowledge of what happened in paris, it does mean this is a reaction to investigations happening inside. they were offered support. anything from i.t. support to a doctor to funneling money, perhaps, and yemeni authorities are trying to work out what to do with them next whether they should be charged. clearly another sign that officials are desperate to point out that they're on their game they say, in intercepting foreigners trying to leave here. michael? >> nick, why does yemen seem to be the pre9/11 afghanistan? why do all terror roads seem to go through that country today?
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>> well, that and southern syria. we are talking about a failing or failed state. they are payed the meager salaries. and then of course there is the increasingly deadly and increasingly sectarian complex that has rackeded the country for years. little complex but worth listening to. the side of the muslim divide lchlt they moved in and taken over the streets. and you see their check points in many areas. they are the enemies of al qaeda and sunni tribes here and some say, in fact, that al qaeda have done quite well out of that because many have rushed the to join them to bolster their ranks because they're scared of the shiite. this is so volatile, this capital city that this morning the chief of staff of the yemeni president was kidnapped in the city center itself.
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it isn't known precisely who did this. there are claims from supporters of the presidential administration that armed men were behind that and there are suggestions that they say this happened as a move to try to prevent a new constitution being put in place that they do not agree with. so a very messy situation there. you only gather the sense of what kind of a failing state this is. the second most powerful man, frankly, in the presidential administration get taken by armed men. that's why al qaeda can find a home michael. >> thank you for that exclusive report nick. stay safe. and now what we're learning from intelligence sources here. deborah feyerick has been working her sources to get new information on the terror cells in europe. deb, what are you learning? >> we do know the u.s. authorities are very interested in finding a man salim salim bengalaim. he's identified as an executioner for isis. he's a frenchman. and now we are learning he does
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have ties to the suburbs with the two kouachi brothers. now he's also tied to a man who was traveling with cherif kouachi when he tried to get to iraq by way of syria. this sms ha didn't just happen overnight. the kouachi brothers were tied to a man. he was a known al qaeda recruiter. he was passed by al qaeda central with a plot to blow up the u.s. embassy in paris. back in july of 2001 he was identified by the then cia director george tenant and cia director then briefed the president at the time. so when you look at this and you hear him basically say that he is very -- that this is much more aggressive he's absolutely right. this is more aggressive. >> did you tell me a two degree
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of separation between the the beheadings and the kouachi brothers. >> well there's a frenchman they want to find who is directly connected to the suburb where is they all grew up. this is a gang. this is a cell. this is an ideology that extended over a period of time. the reason we see this level of aggress right now is because you have an ideology that in modern daytimes with osama bin laden, look down the road. we're going to create a world of political islam. a caliphate. and now with a man like anwar al-- his message spread so deeply that the caliphate is now. it's not decades or century miss the the future. that's really established what had is going on in zir what with young sort of thugs. zblf has the motivation changed? with bin laden, and i've read many of his writings it was all
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about the interventionalist foreign policy of the united states. today it seems about economic despair among muslim men. >> that's no question that that is a huge motivator. rather than go elsewhere to fight the war. go elsewhere. get a little training. doesn't take a lot to pick up a gun and fire it and then come back and carry it out against the countries where you are living. and so it is a very different kind of war. it is a ground war essentially going on in europe. >> intelligence agencies in europe the united nations and other countries are working around the clock to track down connections to the paris attacks and belgian cells. a major man hasn't. i want to drill down on just how you do it with an expert. he's a counter terrorism expert and former member of the army's delta force. he joins me now from raleigh,
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north carolina. i understand the other night there was an unprecedented telephone conference call among fbi field offices. what can you tell us? ? >> michael, good morning. the fbi met at the the washington field office and by the director of the fbi had an all-hands video teleconference saying to all of the joint terrorism task force throughout the u.s. all of the fbi offices throughout the u.s. and the intel fusion centers around the u.s. so make sure everyone was on the same sheet of music. that everyone had the foundational logic and the after action of what happened in paris. what was going on. so everyone is on the same sheet. that's great for us. it's interesting to see, it's the first time that we have done it. >> i'm glad we're all on the same sheed domestically. who is calling the shot internationally? we put that map up so cnn viewers could see the worldwide
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implications. are those efforts being directed from washington? from somewhere else? and who is calling that shot? >> well michael. you have what i'll tell you is you have an inner agency task force that works with interpol with the other country's security services. we have cia sergeants pushed into these places here. and so everything works back to the national intel service back here in d.c. and links up with the different countries where we are right now in france and these joint terrorism task forces. but there's not one place internationally that you would think that everyone comes back to in one place. it would be too difficult. but i will tell you this from my experience in working with these all throughout my years, these folks do this pretty well and they work it really hard. >> it would seem to me you just answered my question from a law enforcement perspective.
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it would seem to me this also puts an increased burden on the the diplomatic efforts. can you speak to the importance of that? >> yeah i can, michael. we all look at what i call the elements of national power. and whether they're diplomatic, informational, military intelligence and economic. rigs now all the viewers are watching. they're seeing the intelligence and the military or law enforcement security aspect. or really the kinetic piece. i think we're really missing the diplomatic and information mall or counter propaganda to what the islamic jihadists are doing, and we see this, but i just don't think it's in parallel and as much of the gas pedal going on the diplomatic end to counter propaganda. >> colonel reese, thank you for your reet. >> thank you. >> we're going to take a short
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it's a position. it sold out quickly in a statement of defiance by readers as well. but my next guest says publishing that cartoon is an act of war. a radical muslim cleric in london who was arrested a few months ago on suspicious of encouraging terrorism and british prime minister david cameron has called it absolutely despicable and appalling. # i appreciate you being here. i've watched some of your
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interviews. they quickly evolve to shout fests. that's not where i'm coming from. okay. >> okay. >> good. an act of war to me is the murderous act of killing 12 people who make their lives with pens and pencils. explain. #. >> well the french government as well as your government are engaged in war with syria and iraq and before that afghanistan, and this war is not just being prosecuted by people on the ground. it has propaganda. and this particular provocation is designed on one hand to undermine the ideology of the perceived enemy. to say your values are less than our values. the sanctity of the prophet muhammad. >> this is satire. it's taking kernels of truth, growing them in proportion and trying to make a serious
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political point. people have been killing in the name of the prophet, something they exposed through those cartoons. >> things like satire and speech are euphemisms for something quite ugly that lurks underneath. if you have a look at what they try to depict with the prophet muhammad there's not one muslim on this planet who will not be outraged. now you know people turn to violence for many things. if r us to defend the honor of the prophet is a matter of life and death. this is something you may not understand. but for us this will carry capital punishment. >> well i'm trying to understand that. by my colleague fareed zakaria reminded me on my program here a week ago that nowhere is this type of depiction prohibited. is that true? >> actually no. it says whatever the prophet did, do it. whatever the prophet forbade, do it. the prof set sent many people to assassinate others.
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a very famous example, he hases dishonored me and kill him. >> if i understand you, and i'm talking about the quaran itself. you're telling me your view is the prophet muhammad would want those 12 individuals, those cartoonists executed. >> no what i say to you is that i'm not someone -- i don't believe that you should execute these things. and i believe these people should be put through court. if it's proven they drew the cartoons then of course i think they are dishonoring. it will be up to a judge to decision the punishment. would you con determine the murderous act against those? >> i think it needs cause and effect. >> you've made that clear. but now i would like you to condemn the murderous act.
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you've condemned the cartoon. i have given you ample opportunity to do it. now i would like to hear if you'll condemn the murderers? >> i cannot condemn them. i believe they are following their opinion. the examples throughout history, people have done this so i cannot say that i can condemn them. i differ with them. i wouldn't do it myself. i would advise them differently. but i cannot condemn them. zblf will you agree with me the net effect of the act will be more isolation, more discrimination against more young arab males in particular. that will be the net effect of what just transpired, right? >> i think there's a bigger picture. the mistake that the french authorities and this magazine have made, the one thing that all of the muslims is to honor the prophet. i was at the mosque you know on friday and people are outraged. people i never met coming up and saying how can they do this?
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they will galvanize the whole community. we saw it before with danish cartoons. it will have an effect definitely. >> i think the real intention here is to cause the economic deprivation of muslims, so more dissent with the nonmuslim world. >> well this is one of the results. this will be many repercussions on many levels. the wider picture as we saw with the danish cartoons is the embassies and foreign interests of companies like the french, the british and the others who are supporting them will become more isolated. they will have less connection with the muslim world. and if you want to prosecute more in countries, then you need the support of muslims. ultimately you will be drawn out. >> your prime minister david cameron was with our president on friday in washington. by the way, why are you still in london?
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people wonder online and i wonder why haven't you joineded the islamic state? >> well first of all, i was born in london. i'm almost 48 years old, in a couple of days time. my passport has been taken away from me. even if i had a passport and i try to travel in this country you are proven otherwise if you're a muslim. you're a terrorist until they suggest otherwise. not only myself but my whole family. this is the kind of system we live. >> david cameron called it committed by islamic extremists than the own president? which is right? david cameron or our president here in the states who goes to great lengths not to identify the religion that's behind some of these murderous acts? >> well i think they both have an agenda to pursue. i can tell you something the
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report published said it's those people who called for sharia. those people who believed the british foreign policy is against. for him, all of the muslims feel the same way. all categorized as extremists. this is a stick with which the british government used to beat the muslim community. >> am i accurate if i describe them as the actions of radical islam? >> there's nothing called radical islam. >> but i don't believe the actions you and i are describing speak for the faith of 1.6 billion people. i refuse to accept that. this speaks to the abhorrent belief of a handful of individuals trying to paint with a broad brush for the entire faith. >> the difference is i've studied, i've been teaching for over 20 years. i can tell you something. although i talk about security as you may know the life is protected. therefore, they do not target
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the life of the people who they live. this is not the only opinion. as you see in the video clips recently they have a completely different idea based upon the text. i cannot condemn them because they have a difference of opinion. >> final question for you. do you yourself desire -- >> i would love to die defending myself and my community. but of course death is in the hands of god. you know our life span is what he decides. i will continue to struggle if i'm prevented from traveling abroad one day bring the sharia to britain. in the hard. before an incidentally we can live together. jews muslims and christians side by side. >> would that include your participation in a "charlie hebdo" like attack? >> no. as i said i don't believe that this is something i am permitted
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to partake in. i can support my brothers around the world and liberate our land. sometimes the propaganda is stronger than the assault. >> anjem, thank you. >> thank you very much. >> you know i want to say something. i find this man's views and beliefs to be repugnant. but i think it's important to show you, the viewers, how he thinks and what he believes. so that we can have a better understanding of what drives this irrational behavior. another very interesting conversation coming up. a muslim on the house intelligence committee privy to our country's greatest secrets. he says american muslimscan be a big help in fighting terror. i'm going to ask him how. and he's back maybe. mitt romney gave an important speech to republican leader last night. so what was his pitch?
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when the news appeared online twitter erupted with protests. complaints of exposing american secrets to a muslim. thank you for being here sir. i think you just watched this interview with this cleric. and i wonder what does it feel like as a muslim to watch someone who espouses such hatred and claims at the same time to be speaking for your faith? >> well, i can say this. as a muslim we are a monolithic group. we're not monolithic. i can say this. america we won't win the war against terrorism without help from muslims. there are, as you know sir. many terrorist attacks, attempted attacks that are thwarted because of help from muslims. we'll never hear about them on television. so i think it's critically important that we are working with the muslim community in a way that isn't transactional.
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i met with law enforcement agencies quite recently. and i think i'm the only member of congress who has ever served in the intelligence fusion center and now more than ever law enforcement agencies have to be cooperative and share information. we have differing views, but we're not the same clearly. >> does it gull you when you're watching the monitor and i think he was attempting to quote, but do you find yourself sitting there saying that's not true? how could he say that? >> there are many things said. prophet muhammad said it. after one relieves him or herself, he or she should wipe themselves with three stones. if you would bypass charmin and wipe yourself with a stone, it would be absurd. but i must say that the quran is the foundation for muslims and the hadib serves as commentary.
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there's great dispute among scholars about the validity. >> i know you just received your first briefing as a member of the intel committee. i also know you're not going to tell me what was said or maybe you would have to kill me. but were you alarmed by the report? did it exceed your expectations? >> i certainly want to thank leader nancy pelosi for her vote of confidence in appointing me to the the committee. i will say this. it is very clear that our country has a lot of misperceptions about muslims in this country. my father-in-law happens to be the first elected muslim judge. there are many muslim whoos are on city councils and state legislatures. and they are making positive contributions to american society. i think me being on the committee has caused a stir with some. but for the most part the democrats and republicans congratulatory.
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and now that i'm looking at reports and working with my colleagues on the other side it's time to get to work and keep the american people safe. >> congressman, our program today is largely dedicated to these alarming developments around the globe. should we americans take some sol solis in the fact that these are overseas or don't accept a false sense of security? >> absolutely. we can never be secure. there are attacks from those who claim to be muslim but misrepresent the religion very clearly. but there are other attacks for racial supremacist groups we have to be mindful of particularly in rural parts of the community and other parts as with el. but we're we're saying in law enforcement let's create relationships built on trust, not a transactional relationship. not a relationship where law enforcement shows up at the last minute wanting information, but a relationship where muslims, hin hindus jewish brothers and sisters, catholics, can really
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feel a part of the law enforcement process in helping to support suspicious or terrorist activities. >> final question sir. did "charlie hebdo" go too far in publishing those cartoons? >> well i sport free speech. we have to make sure it didn't become distasteful or disrespectful. i support their right to express themselves freely. i don't think they should become other than who they are with trying to attack people for expressing themselves. the best course of action is to remain a muzslim in the true sense of the world and act like a civilized human being. that's the best way to demonstrate the faith is a faith of peace. >> thank you for being here sir. >> thank you. thank you. just ahead, the very surprising
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pope francis is in the philippines. he was forceded to put on a slicker to conduct an outdoor mass for hundreds of thousands who gathered as a typhoon approached. he stirred up controversy on his way. he condemned the killings at "charlie hebdo" but then he went further. >> translator: one cannot provoke. one cannot insult other people's faith. one cannot make fun of faith. >> let's be clear, the pontiff condemned violence but he hinted that there was a limit to free speech. >> a great friend says a swear word against my mother then a punch awaits him. but it's normal. it's normal. >> my next guest agrees with the pope. joining me now is bill donahue. he was channelling you. we had this conversation a week
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ago, the two of us. i disagree with you. now i disagree with the pope. if you curse my mother a punch is coming your way. you say yes. no. that's battery. >> well somebody bail me out. can't get much better than that. if you would read the actual transcript it does make you wince a little bit. he's standing up. he has the mike in his hand. to his right is dr. alberto alberto gasperio. he's got that latin heritage. he's saying listen it's not just religion. if somebody curses my mother look out for a punch. i think what he's saying is this when people provoke people in a serious manner. don't act like a little virgin when people get upset. >> now you're reminding me of
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when you said the guy who died as a publisher was a narcissist. you also said too bad he didn't understand the role he played in his own death. >> the reason i called him a narcissist, michael, is he said muhammad is not sacred to me. well muhammad is not sacred to me either but i don't want to disrespect the prophet. that's unfair to muslims. the analogy i've been using is there's a guy selling apples across the street from "charlie hebdo" headquarters. he's still alive. how come they're dead and he's still alive. >> because he wasn't singled out by a lunatic. >> listen. i provehicle people, and i had non nonviolent demonstrations in the street. i am in no way going to justify this at all. >> you first came on my radar
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and manies back in the late '90s. it was the brooklyn museum right? >> and '98, corpus christi. >> they desecrated a painting with elephant dung and worse. people say it was the dung. it was actually worse. >> so what is going on with both yourself and the holy father. the catholics have gotten picked on. finally, it's somebody else and you're saying we know what that feels like. >> i think it's wrong not to put the cartoons out there. for the stuff really filthy. i i'm not saying this in line with you. i have more respect for jeff here at cnn who says we're not going to put them up there because i don't want to endanger the lives of my own people or the guys at "the new york times" who says we don't believe in the religious insults. really? they did a great job insulting
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my religion over the years. >> cnn has boots on the ground everywhere. i too understand that. although i said there would be strength in numbers if everyone to follow a cnn lead. and some of these things were god awful. >> and i'm worried if you don't give a public a little taste, then they have no idea what they're talking about. i don't want to yield. >> i think people are adults. they can understand what is going on. when you talk about the commentary i don't want to get too explicit. but that's the kind of stuff is unnecessary. not just for muslims. for everybody. why do we have to do that? when you thrash somebody's religion relentlessly don't ask me to think, like the statue of liberty. you're becausing freedom. i'm not "charlie hebdo," proud to say it. >> i know the pope has the big guy's number. you must have the pope's number.
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committee meetinging in san diego. despite losing twice in his bid for the white house, it sounds like romney is thinking very hard about 2016. >> i am giving some serious consideration to the future. but this i know we can win in 2016 as a party in the house, in the senate and in the white house. if we communicate a clear vision of where we're taking this country. >> to help us figure out if the third time's a charm or a curse for the gop, i'm joined by mark preston, cnn's executive editor for politics. he's with us from san diego. you know mark it sounds funny to say this was an important speech when it's only january of 2015 but for mitt romney i think this was an important speech because it seems as if his toe in the water has drawn feelings of ambivalence from the republicans. >> yeah no question michael. and there's no such thing as that statement. mitt romney soon after he lost in 2012 said he would never run again. and just last night he indicated
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for the first time publicly that in fact he is thinking of doing so. you know there's a lot of intrigue from republicans that he's h he's made the decision to seriously consider it. but as you said there's a healthy scope of skepticism from a lot of republicans who thinks that his time has passed. they're looking for a fresh face. and mitt romney right now, people for many people they don't think he is the fresh face. >> but what just went on here? because for the past several months i've been looking at polls. this is a town hall survey that -- this is before he said he was serious, that mitt romney was at the top of the pack in iowa. republican leaders are saying we hope mitt romney gets into it. and then the minute he says okay despite all my denials in the past maybe i will take a shot. it seems as if there was a sea change and people are saying whoa, hold on. not so fast. >> yeah no doubt. obviously the critics are going to have the louder voices an that's what we're hearing right now. it's no surprise mitt romney would be at the top of the polls
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because the field is so unshaken. more than 12 republicans are thinking of running for president. what is really interesting is if mitt romney does decide to get in it shakes up part of a field that seems more solidified than the other part of the field. it would be a race between those two. mitt romney shakes that up. on the other side of the political spectrum a big fight among social conservatives, several of them thinking of running. the field right now looks like it's going to be a little bit more confusing but certainly a lot more interesting, michael, if he does get into this race. >> very quick final question give me a name who are they buzzing about that's not getting the attention? who's the buzz in that room? >> >> great question. scott walker the wisconsin governor spoke on thursday night to folks here. he gave a very strong speech and he talked about conservatism the need for republicans, michael, to look outside of washington and it for
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republicans and specifically conservatives it was scott walker who took op the public sector unions he beat back a recall challenge back in 201 and he just won re-election. look at scott walker to rise to the top of the pack soon. >> thank you. we appreciate it. just ahead, one of the top members of team romney in 2008 and 2012 i'll ask him if mitt should run. sir, we're going to need you on the runway. (vo) theraflu starts to get to work in your body in just 5 minutes. (vo) theraflu breaks you free from your worst cold and flu symptoms. (vo) theraflu. serious power. in my world, wall isn't a street... return on investment isn't the only return i'm looking forward to.
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governor romney's already getting pushback on a possible third run for the white house. i'm joined now by kevin madden cnn political commentator who was romney's senior communication strategist in both 2008 and in 2012. kevin, the front page of the times points out not only mitt who had a change of heart, ann romney once said we are done done done what's going on with her. >> she's very supportive of anything mitt has done whether the olympics wanted to run for governor of massachusetts or run for president the first two times, so if governor romney believes it's the right thing to do ann usually right behind him. >> do you think it's the right
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thing for him to do? >> well, you know i think if you have the burning desire and passion, a deep-seated passion and belief that you're the right person for the job you should run for president. the great thing about campaigns, michael, is that ultimately the voters get to decide whether or not it's a good idea. so in that sense he ought to put himself up for the test. >> there's a suggestion that this time around he will be more forthcoming about his mormon faith. i believed at the time of the last convention that greatest mistake is that there were these tremendous mormon testimonials but that they didn't run in prime time. we saw clint eastwood with the chair. do you think if he takes another shot at it he will handle his faith differently? spoo you're right, michael. it was a legitimate criticism. in order for people to vote for you for president they have to get to know you. a lot of the personal stories would have gone a long ways towards getting people to know who the real mitt romney was. i think you saw a glimpse last night. if there is going to be a 2016 campaign you're going to see
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more of the personal stories. he talked in his brief remarks last night about how he was a mormon pastor how he worked with lower income and poor people inside his parish. and actually ann's introduction you will see a lot more of her. she's somebody who knows him the best knows what he believes the passion he has for the country, you will see a lot more of that. this window into what they believe is the real mitt romney that not enough people saw in 2012. >> one other observation he said in his speech last fight that this is not going to be a campaign about the obama record. as i was watching i was thinking that's not how you fire up the base. the base wants to hear all about the horrific obama record. that's how you get those primary and caucus voters out to the polls. your thought? >> ultimately the base i think is already convinced that obama has not been a good president. and fundamentally, elections are, particularly presidential elections, they're contests for the future. i think the best place for governor romney to go if there is a 2016 campaign is to tell people exactly what he would do
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to address some of the economic anxieties that the middle class has. to address some of the opportunity issues that folks who are in lower income brackets that's the type of campaign that he has to run, one that's much more future oriented, vision oriented. >> nice work kevin. thank you for being here. >> great to be with you, michael. >> when we come back, a final thought. she's still the one for you. and cialis for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment is right. cialis is also the only daily ed tablet approved to treat symptoms of bph like needing to go frequently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain as it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess. side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache or muscle ache. to avoid long term injury, get medical help right away for an erection lasting more than four hours. if you have any sudden decrease or loss in hearing or vision or any allergic reactions like rash, hives swelling of the lips tongue or throat or difficulty breathing or swallowing, stop taking cialis and get medical help right away.
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