those sheep back into the flock. for the millions who have gathered in the rain his visit, a visit of mercy and compassion have united the country's faithful. after 90-minute mass of reverence and reflection the crowd erupted again with pope. as he said his final farewells, the pontiff stopped the pope mobile several times to kiss children. a demonstration of his love for the people whose unwavering devote they give in return. anna korin, cnn manila. >> what an incredible site. thanks for joining mess. the next hour of the "newsroom" begins now with poppy harlow in new york. \s . hi everyone you're in the cnn newsroom. i'm poppy harlow joining us live

from new york this sunday evening. across europe today, officials are on high alert. the question hangs where and when might terrorists strike next. here is where the investigation stands right now. five belgians citizens are charged with links to a terrorist organization three of them remain in jail two released under what is being called strict conditions. this goes back to the police raid and shootout on thursday in which two suspects were killed. officials in greece have arrested some suspects and they're still looking for potentially others. the belgian government has requested the extradition of one person arrested in greece. more on those in just a few moments in a live report. one of the biggest fears in europe right now is what nobody can see, the so-called sleeper cells, quiet terror groups who suddenly become operational. western intelligent sources tell cnn this could be as many as 20 sleeper cells planning attacked. a pair of u.s. senators also tell cnn today that it is time for america's allies outside of

europe to step up. >> but are our allies doing enough as well? a country like saudi arabia has enormous influence, pakistan as well against this sort of extremism. are they doing their part? or in fact are they making the problem worse? >> well jim, as you know they've been a contributor to the funding since al qaeda was created. a lot of the middle eastern countries have. >> we've let it go on for far too long. now that we realize the reality, the dangers, the immediacy of this threat to the united states and our allies i think republicans and democrats can come together and say, listen time is up. we need to see progress or especially with a country like pakistan there's going to be some consequences. >> all right. let me bring in cnn international correspondent arwa damon who joins us on the phone from southeastern turkey. arwa let me ask you this. we just heard from the two senators that the u.s. needs to crack down on allies funding

terrorism, essentially, saying look the money is going through these conditions too easily. when you talk about turkey specifically, i know turkish officials are saying we're doing everything we can. we have a huge border with syria that we have to deal with but -- what is your sense from the officials in turkey? can they step it up at all? >> well turkey is finding itself in a very tenuous situation at this junction because if we go back to the era of at the revelation prethe emergence of isis yes, turkey was coming under a lot of scrutiny and accusations that it was being too lacks with the borders allowing some of these more fundamentalist islamist individuals easy access into the syrian battlefields. fast forward to the situation that turkey is finding itself in today. it has a massive border with syria, and do whatever it may,

it quite simply cannot physically control this entire boarder. those smugglers who are assisting individuals in going across whether those individuals are fighting with isis or others they know how to wait. they know how to make that careful calculation, look for an opening, and then allow people across. turkish authorities are also saying they're growing increasingly frustrated. while on the one hand they say they're doing everything they can. they do feel on a number of occasions at times when they're pacing on intelligence to western nations about individuals who are transiting through turkey to the west to europe they don't feel as if that is being taken or acted on seriously enough. they feel as if they are doing all that these can that the onus is also on these europeans nations on the united states to try to act on the intelligence that turkey says it's passing along, but also to prevent these individuals from even leaving

their respective countries. >> arwa to that point, saying we're giving all this intelligence to the europe to the united states they're not doing enough i'm wondering what those european leaders are saying on that front? are they agreeing and saying they're getting what they need from turkey? >> reporter: we get into this complex situation that turkey is finding itself in. you know all sides are saying they're doing everything they can, but we have a magnitude of a problem that no nation is capable of dealing with. arguably even in all nations come together because of the sheer volume of those who have the intent -- or have that intent of carrying out attacks in europe and around the world, intelligence agencies are finding themselves stretched incredibly thing s girlfriend oar wife of the third gunman in the paris attacks. she came to turkey on january 2nd. turkish intelligence actually flacked her at the airport, for

whatever reason they're not disclosing but they felt she was suspicious. they followed her for a few days. she stayed at a hotel in east istanbul and then they discontinued that because scherr was engaging in tourist activity. then after the information of the attacks came out, they provided with the information. they werible able to track her to her last location. but bar that, they have really been struggling to try to keep up with her movement presumably she's crossed over into syria, but what one also has to recognize is the chaos that exists in these border regions. they're dealing with a massive influx of refugees that we have interviewsed on various different occasions s crossed back from syria into turkey. they shaved their beards off and they blend in with the

population. if these are people who have come from overseas there is no actual necessary evidence no stamp on their passport that says they have cross booed syria to fight alongside isis to fight alongside various jihadi groups. when they come back across into turkey and do blend in, they're incredibly difficult to track. that is one aspect of the problem that turkey is trying to deal with because it is now a massive hub, a transit hub for anyone with the intention to go into syria, and fight loonside -- but turkey is also dealing with the other side of is the problem form people who might have gone into syria, haven't necessarily been tracked and now may be going bam home with the intent of carrying out attacks in europe. >> and turkey being so critical to the united states to the west in this fight against terror. arwa damon joining us on the phone from southeastern turkey. arwa thank you for that this

evening. during this time of heightened alert, the u.s. has quietly released this man, charged and jailed in the u.s. as an enemy combatant. they have returned him to qatar. he was sentenced to 15 years in federal prison for providing material support to al qaeda. let's talk about this case with our panel. joining mess is bobby gosh and also author of "manhunt" the ten year search for bin laden." we've been seeing the united states especially over the last month releasing more of these people to other nations in south america, to qatar, for example, when you talk about enemy combatants who are released, peter bergen there is a lot of concern over whether the countries they are released into are able to effectively monitor them. >> well we're a nation of laws and this person who has been released al mari has served his sentence. it was reduced because of the

time he was served in the navy brig where he was abused somewhat significantly. qatar is an enormously rich very small country, where by the way we sent back five leaders of the tal back for private bowe bergdahl. those leaders have been there for about a year. they have done nothing, so it seems the qataris are able to monitor people and basically it's a relatively safe place to send people back to. >> bobby, i want you to weigh in on that as well as some comments from david cameron this morning, but first weigh in on what peter said. >> qatar does have an extensive security network within the country, but ali al mari a relative of his, we're not sure if it was a brother or cousin was a prisoner at guantanamo. he was released in 2008 the qataris promised up and down they would keep an watch on him.

2009 he leaves the country, he goes to britain, travels all over britain, gives speeches and then the brits pick him up and send him back to qatar, even in a place like qatar, everybody knows everybody, and has a quite strong state apparatus, it's still possible for someone to slip through. >> david cameron was this morning on cbs' "face the nation" he explained why he wouldn't use the word "war" and hollande says saying -- we don't want to help them in their narrative. you say that's irrelevant. >> that's a conversation we're having among ourselves. to these people conducting terror attackings it doesn't matter a lot. in dame cameron were to use the word "war" that may yet be one more explanation, but as far as they're concerned, they're

already at war with us one way or the other. at some level they're at war with us because they even exist. and they're starting from that any number of other reasons, that include america's role the west's role in the gulf in iraq more recently drawn strikes, there are any number of excuses, real imagined made up. and so david cameron using the word "war" one way or another i don't think moves the needle. >> i would like you to weigh in on this discussion we've been having and al qaeda, and whether or not we're seeing a convergence of the two groups more working together rather than battling one another. a, do you think we are seeing that b, do you think that it matters, frankly? >> well if either group kills your brother, it doesn't really matter does it? el they talk about the narcissism of minor differences, and the fact that they are having a battle for leadership

of the glob jihadi movement is true but we've seen in syria that there have been cases where isis and the affiliate there are cooperating in the last several weeks, and so you know these groups at a local level cooperate together. it's not at all clear that the paris attacks was an example of isis and al qaeda cooperating together. it seems to be an al qaeda in yemen attack with a guy who just pledged to isis in his bedroom. so you know i think it's a complex picture, but certainly at the leadership level these groups are battles each other. >> bobby, very quickly, you've said that they don't care who they're pledging allegiance to when you look at the kouachi brothers for example? >> the foot soldiers don't care that much. they're looking for their opportunities. what the leadership level says that's an important rivalry, because they're competing for recruits and resources for money. that's important, but as we have

learned in paris, at the foot soldier level, not so much. >> thank you both. we appreciate it. coming up after a quick break, another growing threat back in the headlines, ukraine. hear why one senator says it is time for the u.s. to do a lot more on the ground. [ female announcer ] we help make secure financial tomorrows a reality for over 19 million people. [ alex ] transamerica helped provide a lifetime of retirement income. so i can focus on what matters most. [ female announcer ] everyone has a moment when tomorrow becomes real. transamerica. why do we do it? why do we spend every waking moment, thinking about people? why are we so committed to keeping you connected? why combine performance with efficiency?

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well in the past few days ukraine has become more violent in terms of the situation going on there on the ground. the most intense violence happening right around the airport, the donetsk area. senator chris murphy says the united states should sent more military aid to support ukraine's government. listen. >> i believe now that the united states needs to start sending more significant military assistance to the ukrainance. that was not a position i held initially in this debate. right now economic sanctions are not in the short run convincing russia to pull back. i think the administration has to start working at more serious leaves of defensive armaments, i

think that would help in a fight that we have to admit is not ending any time sign. joins me is the spokesman for the organization of cooperation in europe. thank you for joining us sir. i want to get to the -- the numbers you have sent is staggering staggering but do you agree that that would do it that that kind of support would do it or do we need to see u.s. troops on the ground? >> good to be with you. so what we do on a day-to-day basis, we're coming up to 500 international monitors is documenting wharks goodsing going on oregon and it's up to others to draw conclusions or take action but one of the main things we've been doing, poppy, is documenting also the very, very big impact on the civilian population in the setup piece, you mentioned the horrific attack on the -- 12 to 14 people

dead many injured. it's just a reminder how innocent civilians are getting caught up in the conflict what we want just a few days ago, it's time for all sides to exercise maximum restraint, and also to withdraw poppy weaponry and that weapons need to be stopped fired. >> there was an agreement in accept and then another one in december and they seem to have fallen apart. you talk about a worsening humanitarian situation, and your organization say 5 million people have been impacted at least 4800 have died over 10,000 wounded, a million displayed. it's staggering for something that is just not in the headlines in the united states perhaps as much as it should be. what can you do to help? >> well what we do to help for example, poppy, is we negotiate for example, temporary mini-cease-fires which we did

recently when you know along the front lines the villages are being heavily shelled, so the temporary cease-fires allow repair crews to come in. many, many villages are without power, without heating. also for humanitarian aid to get in. we are also see the wfp, the world food program coming in with a program as well as undp but the osce has seen itself as the early warning signal for this area. it does tend to fall out of the headlines. the worst thing that could happen is to avert its kay from the conflict in the ukraine. that's why we're increasing a number of monitors. by the way, a little over 10% of those are americans, and some of them for example, are former detectives law enforcement, military and we're protecting them with things like armored vehicles flack jackets. we are an unarmed civilian mission, the dangers are very

real but we will stay on the ground as long as possible to report exactly what's going on on the ground. >> this has going on for months and months. you guys have been on the ground the entire time. thank you for the work that you are doing and for joining us this evening, michael, we appreciate it. the president releasing a new plan to raise taxes. who pays who benefits? we're talking about a big number here. we'll discuss, next. ♪you better pledge your allegiance♪ ♪you're not the only one♪ ♪listen up forefathers♪ ♪let them have some fun♪ ♪some fun♪ ♪some fun.♪

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you know that sound when you hear it on cnn, right? it means we're going to talk about politics. the president about to unveil his agenda for his final two years in office. on tuesday night in the state of the union address. and the white house has released some of the reforms that the president will be proposing. he is expected to push congress to pass new laws bolstering cybersecurity. on foreign policy the president will likely promote plans to normalize u.s. relations with cuba and press congress to lift the embargo on that kung. also expected he will put the program to offer free community college for two years to anyone who has the administration hayes said is well to work for it. also in what could be the most sweeping changes, the president will unveil new tax proposals that would offer credits in the middle class, also new tax increases on the wealthy and

more capital gains taxes. >> this is a president who now did sort of saying the battle for the middle class in this country has begun, and in some respects this is the first shot in the battle of the 2016 presidential election because there's a fight for what the next american agenda is going to be. all right met bring in cnn political commentator and republican strategist tara setmire and also chris moody. nice to meet you, chris, in person. i've seen you from a distance in washington. what do you make of what's been trickled out so far from the administration? >> let's set the stage here for, republicans first took over the senate and they bolstered their majority in the house. they set the agenda in both chambers of congress. what president obama has said are just proposals. they cannot become law under the congress does something. based on the reception we've seen from the republicans, these

are not going to go anywhere. these are president obama laying down his marker of what he would love to see, in the fantasy word if he had all the power. >> it's interesting -- tara is smiling over there. i want her to weigh in on this. the president's top adviser dan pfeiffer on the sunday morning shows being pressed, bob schieffer saying is this real? do you think something like this could pass? talking about just in terms of the amount of money it would cost. at the same time the president says we have weighing to pay for it here they are. >> well i mean dan pfeiffer was doing some political gymnastics to give an answer but that's his job. he's a true believer. yes, of course. he doesn't want to seem as the president are putting out pie in the sky policies but that's the truth. none of these things are actual real serious proposals. republicans have come in he

said we can find common ground and tax reform was one of them. these proposals are not serious -- >> what about the community college proposal? i mean you would think if the numbers work out right, and that's a big question mark that is something you can get both parties behind and president obama is proposing taxing the rich. you have hundreds of members of congress who have signed pledges to never raise taxes under any circumstances. i checked with the group called americans for tax reform. they came out with a most today on the website saying absolutely not, sending a clear message to the members who signed that agreement. now, if they go ahead and break that you better believe that the grassroots on the right are going to come after them with ads in the next election cycle and say congressman so-and-so voted to raise taxes by so many billions and it will not fly with the state of the republican

party right now. >> you're looking at some of the proposals we know of thus far to come from the president that he will likely address, couples making $500,000 or more raising $320 billion over ten years and putting that money towards -- expanding the child care credits and also funding this college tuition program. >> let me explain something about this. what people don't realize, because obama has done a brilliant job of trying to convince everyone that what he's doing is free. nothing is free with the government. . this proposal they're saying that the federal government will pay 75% of this tuition and 25% is supposed to be from the, what are we doing here? community colleges a it's local, b. you already have pell grants for people to go to college, and c, community college in the results, they're questionable too. only 20% go on to four-year

colleges only a third actually graduate so even the value is questionable but none of this is for free. there's no tree on the west lawn of the capitol where money growing off of it. it comes from you and athe taxpayers. >> i'm smiling, we do have to go to break, but when have we ever heard the president and lay out things that he knows that congress is going to pass? >> especially with the results of the election you think he might come forward and say, time to work together here is what we possibly can do but in fairness republicans do put out their own budget that's pie in the sky hopes as well. so both sides do this. >> tara chris, stick around. we're getting new details also important to tell you about possible terror arrests in greece belgium now seeking extradition. why they think he may be connected to a foiled terror plot. we'll have that straight ahead. each day was fueled by thorough preparation for events to come.

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all right. we're staying on top the multination antiterrorism investigation going on right now in europe. today confirmation that a number of suspects have been arrested in greece. the belgian government wants to get its hand on at least one of those suspects. our phil black is joining us live from brussels. who are the suspects? what's the connection? and why do they want this one suspect back? >> poppy, the belgian authorities passed on information to police in greece who said they were conducting an investigation on behalf of the belgian authorities. they picked up two men, as you've said of that the belgian authorities have determined that one of them could have been involved in the terror plot they disrupted here on thursday night. that was through a series of raids, properties across the country, one involves the shootout that included two

suspects. the terror plot was supposedly to attack police officers on the streets, while they were working. it is very much been international in its scope, because in addition to the five people that have been charged here in connection with this there are two more in france that they want to bring back to belgium as well and now this most recent arrest in greece. the authorities here have not revealed who this man is what role they believe he played or just how they tracked him down to greece. they've been very sparse on the detail that they have been prepared to make public. as this arrest the most recent arrest shows, it's still very much an active investigation, poppy. >> phil do you get the sense, do we know if belgium thinks they may have possibly busted open one of these sleeper cells? >> reporter: it believes that it busted open really an active terror organization one that was preparing and ready to launch an attack in the words

of the authorities here imminently within hours, they believed. this attack against police officers in one or more locations across the country was due to take place. they believe this has been supported by the physical evidence that they uncovered during these raids during police officers and communication equipment. because of the increase in the security posture, the presence of armed soldiers on the streets of this country, tonight and through the coming week it's pretty clear they still believe. there is a stanch at terror threat. >> phil black lives for us in brussels thank you for the reporting. whether you talk about acts of terror they can also take root online and the subject of cybersecurity you can bet will come up in the state of the union address on tuesday night. >> i have a state of the union next week one of the things we'll be talking about is cybersecurity. with the sony attacks that took place, with the twitter account

that was hacked by islamist istist jihadist sympathizers yet, shows how much work we need to do to strengthen our cybersecurity. joining mess is peter berg and also joining us is major general james williams. thank you both for being here. let me begin with you, general. when you look at amping up cybersecurity and doing it in a coordinated way, working with law enforcement, how are laws enforcement efforts interesting grated with cybersecurity efforts. do you think there needs to be better collaboration? >> well absolutely. here in north texas we have a great organization called the north texas crime commission, of which i'm the chairman of the cybercrime committee. one of the things that we do we have a complete collaboration to support law enforcement at the federal, state and local level. that includes the prosecutors

with the u.s. attorney or the local district attorneys in the area. it's important that you understand that in that type of collaboration, you have all the various agencies plus the fbi, secret service, homeland security investigations the uss attorney general's office of the northern districts or eastern districts of texas and of course they're interesting grated across the united states with their fellow organization out there, or their sister organizations across the country in all of the 16 major cities of the united states as well as at the state level. so we're pretty integrated. it's really important because one of the things you want to do is as you ensure you're chasing terrorists and looking tess cyberworld almost everything is one of our u.s. attorneys here

mallcolm bale says it has a cyber-component to it. does it seem to you like the u.s. is often plays catch-up? i wonder if there has to be a bigger focus on recruiting seriously the best and the brightest to come work for the government on this front rather than going to private entities? >> yeah well there's an argument to be made poppy, westpoint where all the army's officers are trained and, of course other services the marines and have their own training at quantico you know that cyber smoosh a bigger part of the training. i would also argue the other side which is the fact that so many terrorists are posting on facebook and twitter is actually extremely useful to law enforcement. it's completely legal for law enforcement to monitor a twitter account or facebook account. they don't need a court order.

many of the cases we have seen of americans who try to join isis or al qaeda in this country of late i think have been generated by the fact there's a certainly generation that are comfortable with oversharing on social media about their views. >> that's a very good point. to you, general, as someone that works in this realm, how helpful has it been all that has been posted online through the social smearedia can get of different terror cells, and people looking to be jihadis. we hear so many times that thee on their way, because law enforcement has tracked them through what is posted online. >> absolutely. ultimately it's an open system and part of social media is about the sharing of information. this is why many people obviously like it because it's very cost-effective cheap, very quick, and you can pass a lot of

information. whether it's good or bad. is the challenge we have is the proliferation of that information is becoming larger and larger. as peter said it requires more and more talent on the law enforcement side but also on the corporate side. you know many corporations who have had breaches recently mae or may not have had their systems used in a way that could be used by terrorists and then the question is you know if they meet the compliance standards that businesses are supposed to have the question is are they capable of understanding what is going on in their systems. i would tell you that i think based on my experience i see a disconnect between what the chief information officer knows and what ceos and chairmen of boards know. >> that's a great point. i appreciate thank you both. considering a presidential run in '16, could we see a deja

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a look now to 2016 republicans' race for the white house. the question isn't just who will run. it's more like who isn't running? i mean we're really early on. who can likely beat democratic likely opponent? not anouns any of. he may join the race for the white house for a third time. if so he joins an ever grows list. joining us tara setmire, and rough our political commentators joining us chris moddy, who has graced us with his present in new york. i know earp there. and the criticism has -- both --

250 of them together. was it a bust? . they decided to do it after the they talked about immigration. the budget and, there was not much agreement on this. they had panels and oftentimes at the end of this they come forward with a set of proposals -- >> like here's what we want to do? >> there was no such thing this time around which could suggest there's nor division than we might have anticipated. which is not that much of a surprise. >> but you need them in sync. >> but as john boehner set there are 135 people on capitol hill.

it's hard to get them to agree. >> i want to talk with mitt rommie about this. she's so excited he might run again? >> no i'm not. i'm not the only one who feels this way. mitt romney blew an opportunity in 2012 to come in and turn this country around. he shied away from his economic record shied away from his record at binge capital, which is stellar. he was equipped to handle the issues and he had no convention on that. that bothered a lot of people because it -- he feld as though -- i never knew why he was running. people neat to feel that connection. that's partially what got barack obama elected. he made people feel warm and fuzzy. and romney didn't that. seeing him jump into this again, i don't think anybody is clamoring for him to run.

>> there are people clamoring for him to run. >> not really. >> he said this morning on "state of the union" he checks three boxes. he's vetted he's a big romney supporter, and proved to be right on some issues and he has the billion necessarily to beat hillary clinton. >> what do you think? >> you need more that mr. chaff its to win the presidency but we saw with the reporters covering the rnc event in san diego and in hershey, pennsylvania you didn't have people shouting romney's name from the rooftops. there's still a lot of uneasyness -- >> you mean a lack of -- >> you also have republicans saying there's not that inspirational aspect. >> you don't have people saying he is our standardbearer they're saying i'm open to the primary. getting the wrap. thank you for joining us. we also turn our focus back to terrorism. ahead, are people more likely to

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following the paris terror attacks, president obama said one of the greatest dangers europe faces is muslims who don't feel like they're part of the community, that don't feel assimilated there. sarah gannon spoke to muslims who have lived in europe and in the united states for their take. >> reporter: mohammed and shiza kahn are both muslim and living in new york. mohammed is a student studying from france and shiza a lawyer who grew up in london. >> in your experience what's the difference between being muslim in europe in london and being muslim in america. >> i felt like i was more a part of the community in america as opposed to the community in england. i was always very conscious of the fact that i was a person of color. when i walked into a courtroom and i was out in restaurants i was very aware of that. in america, i don't feel that at

all. i feel like i am part of the community. >> being a french muslim in the u.s. i felt that my presence was less of a problem. >> according to a pew study most american muslims have assimilated into the middle class or mainstream america. meanwhile, european muslims maintain a lower socioeconomic status. >> horace director of the muslim public affairs council compares it to chicago, l.a. or new york. in fact other, another pew study pound that in france for example, most felt discriminated against because of ethnicity or religion. >> they're engaged in higher education -- educational levels professional class so that difference really helps in terms of their integration into society and feeling as if they are part of america even though

challenges of anti-muslim sent iment still exist here. >> mohammad's parents were algerian and moroccan immigrants to france. >> my perception is that we're not recognized as equal citizens and we are always asked to choose between our frenchness or our islamity and i think this is the integration issue. >> reporter: amnesty international called islamophobia one of europe's biggest challenges and it leaves the muslim population there more vulnerable to radicalization. >> when vow have that type of marginalization and no sense of national identity and no sense of being a french muslim or being a european muslim those sentiments can play into the fears and paranoias. >> you're going back. are you looking forward to it? >> to be frank, not really. the climate in france is

extremely tense. >> shiza who moved here permanently says after five years here she feels more american than she ever did european. >> i do feel like an american other when it comes to football i did support england, i do truly feel like the american dream is something that i can pursue. >> it's fascinating to hear and those are just a few of the many many opinions of people muslim-americans and muslims living in europe what do you think, bobby, when you watch that and you get the sense for some of these people they're saying they don't feel as assimilated in europe as they do say, here in america. muslim americans, hispanic-americans fair? >> yes. i think it is fair. there are several reasons to think of just one of them in europe a very large proportion of the muslim population are those who fled countries in north africa or in the middle east got on boats and came over to europe out of desperation,

fleeing political repression or looking for economic opportunity. in the u.s. it's a much longer distance to travel. you have to pay for a ticket and come this far. people who come here are usually coming for a higher education or a pretty decent chance of getting a job and once they get here there are no social safety nets on which they can lean. they have to get a job to survive and they have to force themselves to integrate, and then you have a society that is open to integration in large parts. these are all -- this is all good news. the thing to be worried about and we're a long way from being france or germany or britain, even is that islamophobia is creeping into this country and you see that in conversations over terrorism since 9/11 there's been a serious uptick in that. we saw that a few years ago when there was a proposal to build a muslim community center so islamophobia although it's nowhere near the levels you see in france is creeping up in this country and that's something to

guard against and to fix. >> do you think it's a central factor in radicalization in europe and if so what is the solution? >> it is a big factor that there is a sense of disconnect with the society around them. it leads -- you add to that unemployment. generally the economies of europe are in trouble on top of which you are muslim you are facing discrimination. >> which i think people aren't talking about enough is that the lack of opportunity allows for this. >> allows for anger and resentment. it is felt in a lot of communities only in some small pockets you have radical clerics or radical clerks that are ready to pounce on that dissatisfaction and sense of angst and turn that into rage and turn that rage into action. on top of everything else and now you have syria and iraq. and you can drive it pretty much through europe and get into syria and get into iraq and train to be a jihadi. >> very very quickly. the number one thing that can be

done in the short term. communications. a lot more communications. between mainstream france for instance and the muslim population and there's got to be much much more communication and much less sense of us and them and greater acceptance that they're here they're going to stay and they're part of our community. >> part of us. >> yes. good to have you on. appreciate you joining me this evening. we'll take a quick break. back in a moment.

after the u.s. was criticized for not sending someone high-profile enough to last sunday's unity march in paris enter secretary of state john kerry who came to the city of lights to deliver a diplomatic hug and also a song, a very famous song. more from our chief national security correspondent jim sciutto. >> reporter: on friday in france secretary of state john kerry went in for love and then things got awkward. it was the american no-show seen round the world. last sunday the leaders of 50 nations joined some 3.5 million members of the public at the paris march. so when secretary of state john kerry made something of an

apology tour in paris this week even dragging along singer james taylor as secretary kerry described it to give the nation a hug, he got a little bit too close even by french standards and taylor's rendition of you've got a friend was the perfect soundtrack as french president francois hollande endured an awkward embrace. ♪ you've got a friend ♪ -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com you're in the cnn newsroom. i'm poppy harlow in new york. 6:00 eastern and we are covering all angles of europe's fight against terror. in several european countries police and intelligence agents are finding terror suspects and arresting them and now some movement in the investigation in france. this just in to cnn, a source close to the