tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN January 21, 2015 8:00pm-9:01pm PST
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"ac360" starts right now. good evening and thanks for joining us. a lot is happening in the last several hour ss including word of a decision on federal charges against darren wilson in the case gains of michael brown. first, the message of al qaeda in yemen. a message to foot shoulders in the west telling them to stay home, stay home and kill like the rampage in paris. pamela brown has laid developments. she joins us from paris. first, nick payton walsh. from the spokesman, he talks about terror attacks aimed at the u.s. exactly what did he say?
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>> reporter: well, what's so troubling about this is he basically appeals to those who may be disenchanted or distressed living the al qaeda living in the west. he says do not contemplate emigrating, do not contemplate leaving those countries and come to a place you can fight in the front line. stay where you are. stay where you are and fight that jihad there. that can cause greater damage towards the west. he goes on to talk about how the current attacks now are causing great damage to the west's ability to have embassies, particularly of concern, the sanaa embassy here and talking about the 16 embassies around the world that have been closed owing to the efforts of the e jihadists there, but it's people staying at home in the west.
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most troubling is ultimately al qaeda in the arabian peninsula trying to suggest it could appeal from allegiance to anyone else who could be contemplating lone wolf attacks in the west, anderson. >> obviously if they're not crossing borders to syria, makes it harder for law enforcement officials to track them, be aware of them. nick payton walsh, thank you. the breaking news of the paris rampage. sources have reason to believe the associates of the killers, the gunmen at the kosher market, the gunman's wife seen here entering turkey, that they were urged to flee before the attacks. others expressing concerns and some may follow the call from al qaeda in yemen and return coming home to kill. more on that now from pamela brown who joins us live in paris. these still at-large attackers h in paris and their associates what do we know about them at this point? >> reporter: here's what we know. it's believed they were close associates of the kouachi
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brothers and almedy coulibaly and asked to leave by the suspects leading up to the paris attacks. it's believed used a facilitation group used during the iraq war and helped affiliates get into there. it's a black hole, really a terrorist safe haven. one of those associates of course, hayat boumeddiene and others in the network, the concern here, anderson, is that they could be recruited by isis. of course, they would be very attractive recruits for isis and the concern is they could plot against the west and we saw from the suspects here in paris as one source has spoke with, it's very concerning because these are people who they believe have the same intent and perhaps even training as the suspect. so the fact that they are in place like syria with isis, anderson, raises that level of concern. >> and four suspects charged overnight last night. what's known about their connection or possible connection to the attacks? >> reporter: well, the prosecutor for the first time talked about this, anderson, and named them, he would only share their first name but said they
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were facing terrorism related charges for providing support to a terrorist but he stopped short of saying they were complicit. he said their dna was found an amedy coulibaly's car and his glove and his gun and the prosecutor said that one of the suspects exchanged about 300 text messages with coulibaly in the days leading up to the paris attacks. so investigators have reason to believe they played some role in the attacks but they're still investigating. they still have, you know, a lot of questions they're trying to answer including whether coulibaly coordinated with the kouachi brothers, anderson. >> france's prime minister alluded to jihadists who might be living in france. what are french officials doing about that in terms of counterterrorism or measures? >> reporter: this is unnerving to hear about this from the prime minister in the wake of these attacks, there are 3,000 people believed to be living in france with jihadi ties that
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need to be monitored, under surveillance. today the prime minister announced half a billion dollars in emergency spending would go towards trapping these jihadis. he also announced that they would be putting more jobs, thousands of more jobs in the intelligence community and elsewhere to crack down on the issue. and also to crack down on radicalization in prisons and as he called, cyber jihadism. that's what he'll focus on too. he also talked about creating a list of people arrested on terrorist-related offenses so the people on that list would then have to report whether they're traveling or whether they're moving addresses. so a lot of different sweeping measures here happening in france. it's clear, anderson, that what happened here was a wake-up call of sorts and clearly, more needs to be done to crack down on this problem. >> lots to be done. pamela brown, thank you very much. let's dig deeper now with cnn analyst paul cruickshank joining us, author of "agent storm."
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his life inside of al qaeda and the asian storm. you've been on the belgian cell. what are you learning on him and where he might be? he's still at large. >> still believed to be at large despite a large international manhunt for him. his last known location was in greece where he was believed to be communicating with this terrorist cell in belgium in the weeks before belgian authorities thwarted what they say was a major imminent attack. a new interesting line of inquiry is he may have faked his own death while he was in syria last year. his family in a belgium interview in the last few hours have said that they were contacted and told that he was killed last october. it's possible therefore he faked his own death to get off the radar screen of western intelligence officials to travel to greece and direct this plot. he's considered by the belgians
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as the key link person back to this isis leadership in syria, anderson. >> there's surveillance video that cnn has obtained which reportedly shows one of the paris attackers and his wife, the woman who's still at large, scoping out a jewish institution in paris and that is what we are showing are right now, and have the authorities learned anything from that? >> this is very interesting footage indeed and they're poring through it for clues. one interesting thing is there's target reconnaissance was done by coulibaly and his girlfriend back last summer. that's exactly the same time period when the french took the surveillance off the kouachi brothers. it's possible, therefore, the kouachi brothers were waiting for surveillance to be taken off them before starting to plan an attack and then enlisted coulibaly and his girlfriend into their plans and this was sort of phase one of the plan, anderson.
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>> these people, whether we're talking about these associates of the paris attackers or members of the belgian cell, is there a belief that they are simply on the run or they hunker down until the heat goes away, do we know? >> from everything we understand so far, several of them got out of dodge in the weeks before this planned attack and started to make their way towards syria. some being arrested in places like bulgaria before they could actually reach syria but it's believed others actually did reach syria including hayat boumeddiene and a travel escort that she had that they may have when they got there connected with isis or other jihadist groups. the kouachi brothers were known to have had contacts in yemen and in syria with jihadist groups. >> hmm. all right, paul, appreciate the update, paul cruickshank. thank you very much. we aired a report critical. bobby jindal and fox news saying
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no go zones in england and elsewhere. if you're going to point fingers at other people's mistakes, you should also acknowledge your own mistakes and we didn't do that on the program. in the wake of the paris attacks, several guests mentioned no go zones in france. i didn't challenge them and twice e rereferred to them as well, and i should have been more skeptical. i won't make the same mistake again. new reports that federal prosecutors made their recommendation on whether to bring civil rights charges with darren wilson. first question, did the new england patriots make it to the super bowl by cheating? some say they did and some say they should be booted out of the big game for it. we'll look at the evidence ahead. female vo: i actually have a whole lot of unused vacation days, but where am i gonna go? i just don't have the money to travel right now. i usually just go back home to see my parents so i can't exactly go globe-trotting. if i had friends to go with i'd go but i don't want to travel by myself. someday.
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the video that you are seeing right there. the breaking news centers on the federal civil rights investigation into officer guerin wilson who has already been spared state charges into the death of michael brown. reporting that the justice department crafting recommendations that no charges be brought. the paper citing sources saying top justice officials including eric holder have yet to sign off on it. joining us now, jeffrey toobin, and also attorney, rina martin and kneel traver who represents the family of michael brown. the official report hasn't been completed according to the times. have any justice department officials contacted you or darren wilson about the impending recommendation? >> no and you're right. it's not final. i checked my phone and i had no missed calls from attorney general eric holder, but having done this for 30 years, anderson, i will tell you and
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represented many officers in civil rights investigations some who have been prosecuted and it is very rare that anybody will call us one way or another and say that we are going to go forward or not. i would not expect it at h this level or not, because it is only a recommendation. there are a lot of hands that it has to go through before it is final. >> and neil i know that you talked to darren wilson about it tonight, and how is he doing? >> well, he is doing okay. he's enjoying the anonymity i guess we've had here in st. louis for the past few weeks anyway, but, you know, while he's cautiously optimistic, he also knows and i've said to him time and again, if true, this is at best a preliminary recommendation and we have to be very careful not just to assume it's over. at some point, we should have an answer but we don't have it yet. >> jeff, in terms of the legal bar, jeff toobin, when it comes to bringing federal civil rights charges, it's pretty hot.
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>> eric holder even previewed this decision where he said that these cases are very hard to bring. if someone ist not prosecuted on state charges, the odds that they will be prosecuted on federal charges are substantially lower. it is not impossible it has happened but if a state grand jury says that we can't find a criminal offense, when you superimpose the much tougher intent requirement proving that a defendant really intended to violate someone's civil right, that is a high bar, and this decision, if in fact, this is the final decision is not a surprise. >> all right. and areva, it's not designed for these cases. >> absolutely it's not, anderson, but i think there's confusion about the hate crime statute and how it should be used. because eric holder traveled to ferguson, he traveled to the community and talked about how
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aggressive the department of justice would be in its own independent investigation but the thought of not being a federal prosecution given the state prosecution will leave a lot of activists and people who are on the ground in ferguson very disappointed. >> if i can just add one thing, anderson, there are two issues still outstanding. one is a civil lawsuit by michael brown's family against officer wilson and certainly against the ferguson police department and also, there is a civil federal investigation aimed at reforming the ferguson police department. both of those certainly will proceed. >> neil, to that point, have you heard anything about when or if that may happen, if there's going to be a civil suit against darren wilson?
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>> i certainly have heard rumbling that there is an intent to bring a suit. i know at least one of the lawyers who represents the brown family has been in contact with the city and has made overtures indicating they intend to bring a claim now mirror what jeff has said even e though it is a different standard, in a civil case you still have elements that you have to prove, and they're going to flow very closely to wa you have to prove in the criminal case. although it's a matter of negligence, typically, that you see alleged in those cases. and the, not to get too detailed on you but we call those 1983 actions and there's civil rights allegations. again, the bar is pretty tough there too. if you don't have enough for a grand jury to even issue an indictment, it's going to be pretty hard i think in a civil suit. while that's still out there and while i expect we'll see that, that's still a pretty difficult hill to climb.
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>>areva, do you agree with that? >> i think the standard of proof is less. preponderance of the evidence beyond a reasonable doubt and i can't imagine there will be a part on the part of the ferguson police department to reach a resolution which is what often happens in the lawsuits. rarely are they played out in the trial. often there is a e pretrial settlement, but again in this case, i can't go back to the case of justice. even though the family may succeed in the civil lawsuit and obtain monetary damage it still does not address the question to what happens to unarmed african-american men who are shot by police officers. that question looms large in light of the statements made by the attorney general and even the president, and four cases have been investigated shootings this in 2004 and the american public wants to know if any of the cases are doing to be prosecuted and how do we address the disparities in the criminal justice system. >> well, anderson i think that
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you have to be careful, because each case has to be decided by the facts off that case, and while there are overarching considerations in each case, and there are questions that we have to answer you can't solve that on a case like this. you have to look at it separate and apart from this case. these are all conversations that we have to have and policing is a form of government. we have to deal with that in the governmental sense. you won't solve that problem many this case or any other shooting case. it is a much larger conversation that has to take place. >> el wellwell but these cases are about these cases, and people are concerned about them. >> and n derson, i would keep an eye on the eric garner case in staten island on the federal cases. even though the grand jury voted no in that case it is a much more promising case for federal prosecution, because the justification of the officer's
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justification in staten island was much thinnerr and much harder to defend. and that investigation which is continuing may well yield an indictment, but the michael brown case, it looked all along that it was destined to end the way it is ending. >> yeah. jeff toobin i want to thank you and neil bruntrager. go ahead, areva martin. >> i just wanted to add that you can't separate the cases from the overall issue. >> thank you.
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rom the larger issue of the disparities in a criminal justice system. thanks, anderson. >> all right. areva, thanks, to neil as well. ahead tonight on this broadcast, millions watch the patriots with the colts. was the patriots cheating every time they caught the ball? and cost poker players $10,000. police accused the money from tournaments and it was perfectly legal. we investigate ahead. and now, i'm back! aleve. two pills. all day strong, all day long. and now introducing aleve pm for a better am. the lightest or nothing. the smartest or nothing.
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it's safe to say it is is big. and this is a big story, when one of the best teams in the national football league is on the way to the most lukecrative high profile game beat ss the living daylights of the indianapolis colts this week. now they are accused of getting there by cheating. did they do it in part by using football's 11 out of 12 of them according to espn that contained less than the regulation amount of air making them easier to throw and easier to catch. did they deflate them and if so, what exactly should the league do about it? faced a scandal recently and the patriots been caught cheating once. it's a big deal for all parties not to mention the fans including our own john berman. >> reporter: the second half of the afc championship game confusion. officials stopped the game. was there a problem with the ball? we now know this could have been the first public sign of deflate gate.
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but might have actually started here, late in the second quarter. >> intercepted by -- >> reporter: this colts linebacker became suspicious about the patriots football he had just picked off noticing it felt like it didn't have enough air. according to news day, his head coach was notified and within minutes, it soon got to league officials, so why would the patriots ball he had just intercepted be any different the one his own team was using? it turns out both teams supply 12 footballs to officials to inspect before the game. then each team controls their own footballs when they're in possession. if a quarterback is throwing a deflated football, in theory, it is easier to grip, easier to throw and easier to catch. the patriots did go on the score 28 more points in the second half but whispers of foul play began almost immediately. >> some reports postgame that
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the league is looking into that the patriots were deflateing the ball s balls. have you heard about this story, do you know the story i'm talking about? >> no, i don't. >> would you care to tell me if you were involved? >> no, i have no idea. >> reporter: bill belichick was asked about the accusation during his weekly radio interview as well. >> i really don't know what to say or know anything about what we're talking about here, so, whatever it is, we'll cooperate with them the best we can. >> reporter: and this is not the first time that belichick's team has been accused of cheating. in 2007, personally fined $500 for having an assistant spy on the new york jets by video taping their sideline signals. the team also lost the first round draft pick. as far as the nfl, they have publicly acknowledged they are investigating and said, we are continuing our review and will provide information as soon as possible. according to multiple reports, however, the nfl has already
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found that 11 of the patriots 12 footballs were deflated. if found guilty, penalties could include draft picks next year and penalties and fines, but few believe that deflategate will stop the patriots from playing in the superr bowl. >> john berman. john, you wrote a piece for cnn.com and i want to read a little bit of what you wrote. you said, i quote, if the reports are true and somehow the new england patriots deflated 11 balls in the afc championship game, then shame on me, screw them and shame on me. a bit harsh, no? >> look, i took a controversial stand but to say that cheating is bad. look, if they deflated the balls and i'm still hoping that there is some act of god or meteorological reason that the balls were deflated but if they deflated the ball, it is cheating. and so even though it did not
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affect the outcome, cheating is bad, and it is not harsh to say that. it is harsh to say that. >> i want to bring in someone who knows about how this could, the handling of balls is done. i want to bring in mike pereira, a current fox sports analyst and former official. does it make sense that the balls could be tampered with from the time they're checked and from the game actually starts? >> sure and during the game too. it's easy to deflate the football. just put the needle in it and air is going to come out. the balls leave the locker room, they come in at 2 hours and 15 minutes before game time and the referee really does only two things. all he does is to check to see if the ball retained nearly new properties and also if it's inflated properly. as long as those two things are okay, he marks it with his own mark and then they take the balls out and give them to the ball boy. so the balls left properly inflated and some point now, a
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big as to how but down a couple pounds are 11 of the 12. we saw this before with kicking balls. it's the first time i've seen it with regular balls but to me, it's probably simple or easy to deflate them. >> and in between the time they leave the ref and they're used, they're just what, sitting in a bag on the sidelines? >> right. you have ball people on the sideline that carry a certain amount. the extra ones go over by the replay monitor in the gated area and you have the security guard there. and really, the balls are then rotated every time the patriots had their ball on offense, their ball came in. anytime the colts had their ball and they were on offense and their ball would come in and then there's the special ball for kickers. so really, the ball is in the hand of the ball boys really it is more than anybody else. >> can i ask a question here? a lot i'm reading online from
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fellow patriots fans who used to like me who now don't, all quarterbacks do this. they like to scuff the ball like a pitcher in baseball, and every quarterback like their ball with a certain amount of air in it, and if everyone does it, is it still cheating? >> well if everyone does it it is in their hands all week. and they can preparele thel, and rub them with the brush and get them to the tackiness they want. and that is perfectly legal. but you can't deflate them. i mean the balls have to be and it is 12 1/2 to 13 1/2 pounds of per square inch of pressure in the ball. and if you deflate them or not and whether it creates a advantage or not, it is cheating. it is not the first instance of cheating. there is a reason that the officials go into the locker room before or after halftime so
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they pat players down because they have had silicone on their uniforms because it is tougher to tackle them. so it is just like spygate, and pine tar on bat ss and pine tar, and the issue here is not the act, but the history. is this strike three for the patriots? you have spygate and you have this and then the filming of the walk-through before the super bowl in 2007, and so, repeat offendres are disciplined generally stronger than first-time the offender, and it is going to be interesting to see what the league does. >> yeah mike what sort of discipline would there be? draft picks? >> well i mean -- yeah. i mean i think that yeah, to me you are going to look at certainly the possibility of
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draft picks and of course a substantial amount of money, and then the question is what do you do in preparation for the coming super bowl so that it does not happen again. we have a kicking ball coordinator that now handles all of the kicking ball, and maybe now you are going to be having alternate officials who will handle all of the balls, and shouldn't the officials have caught it when they brought in a new ball and felt it to see the difference that it was not inflated properly and i they the guys in stripes don't shop everyday to squeeze the cantaloupes to figure out if it is ripe. two pounds of pressure is not enough to if figure it out. so the league will step up to discipline the patriot, but take the balls most likely out of the the hands of the ball people and put them in the hands of the alternates for the super bowl. >> fascinating stuff mike
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two days ago, attorney general eric holder made a quiet announcement that the state department was scaling back on what is called the asset forfeiture which means that the government can take your property if they believe it has been used in a crime. what we found out. two days ago, attorney general eric holder made a sort of quiet announcement that the government program was scaling back on a program you've probably never heard of.
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civil asset forfeiture. let the federal government take your money without charging a crime, they only think the money may have been used as some criminal activity. over the years, the program has ballooned to the point, according to a recent washington post investigation, more than $2 billion has been seized. attorney general eric holder said the federal government will no longer take part of the procedures but doesn't mean the local government ends there. the cnn investigation with some truly eye opening examples of exactly what can happen. gary tuchman investigates. >> reporter: it's a bright clear morning in april 2013. inside the red car just ahead are these two men. art davis and john numajinski who happen to be professional poker players. this dash cam footage in the distance, you can see the red car flashing a turn signal indicate to pass a black suv. the few minutes later, an iowa state trooper pulls them over. >> what did he say? >> he said i didn't use my blinker. and he was going to write me a citation that would only take a minute. get in the car. >> reporter: it was the beginning of an encounter that would eventually be two iowa state troopers. found $85,000 in cash belonging to art davis and another $15,000 from john. the officers took it all. >> this was the briefcase. it was locked. they threatened to destroy it if i didn't get the combination.
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>> reporter: you carried money in this all of the time for poker? >> yes. i brought it along. >> reporter: this is normal? >> yes, it's money. i got that from the bank. >> how much is this? >> that's $10,000. >> reporter: the two men wound up being questioned for hours. a traffic warning but not a citation. pled guilty to a misdemeanor on charge of marijuana paraphernalia used for medical marijuana. troopers let the men go but took the $100,000. seized the authorities say part of an interdiction because they claimed that the money is being used to buy drugs. it's called civil asset forfeiture and that wasn't all. >> based on their belief they thought my clients were involved in drug activity call california where they live, inform the officers there or law enforcement officials there they believe they were involved in drug activity, a search warrant was obtained on the basis of that information from the iowa officer, and they raided
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their homes in california and tore their homes apart looking for things related to drugs. >> reporter: even though there was only one misdemeanor drug charge in iowa, california authorities claim they were distributing drugs there. the men's lawyer glen downie said john was indicted. and iowa said give you back $90,000 as long as you let us keep the rest. the men took the deal afraid they would keep all of their money if they didn't. the state of iowa kept $10,000 and the felony charge in california was dropped. as shady as the whole affair sounds, it wasn't a one off. it's part of a concerted effort to legally target and keep your money without ever filing charges. the in fact, the two iowa state troopers as well as thousands of state and local cops nationwide learn how to conduct these stops from private companies and the
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biggest ones are in oklahoma company called desert snow. >> the desert snow trainers travel all over the country to hold their workshops and business is brisk. according to the company's web site, 30 seminars are scheduled for 2015. from oregon to florida. from delaware to california. and your police department could be one of desert snow's clients. this is the man in charge of desert snow. a former california state highway patrol officer named joe david. he wouldn't talk with cnn on camera, but a glance at what his company charges police agencies shows his training isn't cheap. the lowest price for a police force to attend according to this price list is a bit over $8,000. and the top end? $145,000. >> why would a police department spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to go to a seminar which is something you learn in a police academy? >> well, they say they teach them more than the police academy. specialized knowledge to teach these officers how to do it even better. i believe the training encourages them to take more cash because the more cash they take, the more cash joe david is going to get in training
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materials. >> reporter: joe david told us he couldn't answer written questions about how many officers he trained or how much money he's made because of a lawsuit filed by downey on behalf of those poker players. and he has a business that is for the purpose is not to take forfeitures, he said but for the purpose to take and seize funds belonging to innocent people. is to seize funds tied to criminal activity but there have been no charges that the money taken from bart davis or john have been criminal. what has this done in your life? >> made me aware of things i was not aware of and made me angry. how can you not be angry? >> reporter: the men want the rest of their money back, the $10,000 kept by the state of
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iowa. so far, iowa is not giving it back and they are not backing down. >> gary tuchman joins us. the attorney general, as i said eric holder, made this decision prohibiting some of these forfeitures. the impact though is going to be pretty minimal, right? >> right. this is the first step. there will be plenty of forfeitures but the attorney general said unless it's a public safety issue, that federal agencies can no longer keep the money that local police departments send to washington under federal law. a lot of times, local agencies want to use federal law because it's a stronger law, it's more streamlined, it's less bureaucratic. that is no longer allowed, effective immediately, but if the states leave washington out of the equation they can continue to do whatever they want, and that is exactly what happened to the two poker players. >> fascinating. a stabbing spree caught on tape. the man went on attack in the bus in tel aviv. and also a measles outbreak
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disney theme parks is not over after all despite what they said friday. another disney park employee diagnosed this past sunday. dozens linked to in california including eight cases in other states in mexico. this comes on the heels of the surge in measles cases in the united states. record 644 cases in 27 states just last year. chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta joins us now. sanjay, it's remarkable when you think about it. how we got here. 15 years ago, didn't they declare that measles in the u.s. has been eliminated? >> yes, it has been so frustrated for public health officials who have been talking about vaccines for quite some time. in 1979 we said that measles had been eliminated in the united states and that meant that in over 12 months that there were no new cases of measles, and vaccination was working and now, we are seeing some of the biggest outbreaks of measles
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that we have seen in over two decades and clearly not going in the right direction, anderson. >> and is this all basically because of the anti-vaccination movement because parents aren't vaccinating their kids? >> yeah, i think so. here's how i put it. when you look at the world as a whole, as we know from ebola, patients can move around from country to country more easily than ever before. even more easily than 15 years ago. someone could be in the incubation period, could have been exposed to measles, not yet sick. show up in the united states. they could be a potential source. that's how it starts but when you end up in an area who have a large number of people who have not been vaccinated, that one person who would have otherwise been treat and not cause any other infections can suddenly cause many, many infections, and that seems to be what happened here at disneyland. the workers got sick and they subsequently spread it and then it turns into a multi state outbreak quickly.
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>> and the vaccine to repeat is completely safe. there is no medical evidence that it causes autism, and your kids, you had your kids vaccinated? >> there is no evidence. anderson, you have interviewed dr. wakefield and i watched that interview with you, and it is that study that suggested that there was a link between these childhood vaccines and autism, and that study was discredit and there are subsequent studies which show no link. yeah i got my kids vaccinated and i got them vaccinated on schedule and i only bring it up to say, but as reporters we talk about it but as a father i made the judgment and the decision that it is absolutely safe and the proof is in my own children, and they are doing great. >> as you said, it's extraordinarily contagious.
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>> unlike ebola which we kept talking about as being highly infectious, meaning just a small amount could cause an infection. ebola was not particularly contagious. measles is very contagious. it can spread through the air. it can live on surfaces. i've heard statistics that said if you are not vaccinated and you come in contact with someone who has measles, you have about a 90% chance of getting it. so you're going to most likely get it just by coming in contact. you can't say that about most other infectious diseases. so it's highly contagious and it does have this incubation period. so that means you could be exposed but it could be up to 21 days before you get sick. >> yeah, and then 90% chance. thank you very much, sanjay. >> thank you, anderson. amara walker has a 360 bulletin. >> hi there anderson. in tel aviv, israel, a man stabbed a bus driver and seven passengers. his next move was caught on camera on surveillance video where he ran into the street and stabbed a woman. the attacker was shot in the leg
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and then arrested. japanese officials say they'll try to save the citizens held captive by isis for a $200 million ransom. they will try to reach out to a third half party, but they won't say whether they will pay the ransom by the friday deadline. in havana, cuba and immigration as they opened two days of historic talks seeking to restore diplomatic relations. havana officials opposed to washington's policy that allows nearly every cuban who reaches u.s. soil to remain in the country and not be deported. and sitting most of the day, even if you exercise regularly, raises the risk of getting cancer, heart disease, type 2 diabetes, and an early death. that's according to a new analysis on 47 studies on the topic, researchers suggest we sit a lot less and get moving a lot more. >> wow. got to get one of those standing desks. they seem so annoying though.
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girl in kansas city who was playing in a park and found a ring. mou the recently grown woman who was going through a box of her childhood treasures saw the ring and remembered finding it 25 years ago. >> have a little picture on it and i thought that's fancy like maybe a queen's ring. >> oh, spoiler alert. it was kansas city, not a queen's ring. mistaken, the royals. yes, a sports joke. i know. it was a class ring from a school many colorado so the woman got in touch with the school and they went to work there to find the owner. >> they found the girl and then found her parent hs in some obituaries and then found her mar married last name from that, and
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then found her, i believe, through facebook in about ten minutes. >> yes, it was supposed to be some kind of mystery history project but i bet these kids today found the owner in about ten seconds on google. and thus, the class ring was returned to its rightful owner who has no idea how it ended up in the park 25 years ago but is glad to have it back. >> it was kind of like we go back in time to the high school crushes and the fun of the going to the games. >> see, i think that's very sweet and it gives me hope that there are good people out there and when you lose something, it's not really gone. you just might have to wait 25 years to get it back and you can cut the time way, way down if you lose your rings but have a pretty good idea from where they went. take this case from tulsa, oklahoma, a woman lost her wedding rings but remember she set them on a coffee table and her dog, sierra, in the owner's words a little bit of a troublemaker. the veterinarian performed surgery, coming out naturally could have damaged sierra's intestines. >> she eats more than rings i'm afraid. when i got into the stomach, there was some rocks in there and i can't tell if it was
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sticks or bones. >> and again proving the old adage that sticks and bones can make dogs grown, but not everything lost is gone forever. sometimes it can be found on the ridiculist. hello, everybody. we would like to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. >> coming up at this hour the missouri cop who killed an unarmed black teenager the federal government promised a final say and is ready to release its findings. the question is will that officer, darren wilson will he be charged? al qaeda's branch in yemen telling jihadis in the west don't come to syria, stay at home and attack there. so now they are in the super bowl but there are reports that the new england patriots may have cheated yet again. now we're learning that every single one of the team's game balls were under
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