he forecast. check out this mountain dog forecasting icy conditions even before the storm hit. jeanne moos cnn, new york. >> thanks so much for joining me today. i'm carol costello. another hour of "cnn newsroom" starts now. breaking news negotiating freedom for isis hostages but at what price? new controversy, new questions about the dangers of cutting deals with terrorists. and the sun may be back out today but record breaking piles of snow remain. we'll go live to the dig out in massachusetts and look at what's to come. on the brink of a decision about sergeant bowe bergdahl captured and later freed in a hostage exchange with the taliban after leaving his post in afghanistan. will the military accuse him of

desertion? hello, everyone. thank you so much for joining us. busy morning here at cnn. i'm kate bolduan. >> i'm john berman. new developments by the minute as a deadline passes in the lives of two isis hostages. jordan made clear it's prepared to make a deal with terrorists to swap prisoners. isis had vowed to kill a jordanian fighter pilot and japanese journalist kenji goto if jordan did not release a would-be suicide bomber who is on death row in jordan. >> that would-be bomber is sagida al rishawi. her explosive vest did not go off during a string of bombings that killed 57 people in amman. moments ago, jordan's foreign minister reiterated that al rishawi would only be released if the jordan pilot was

released. no mention was made of the swap of the japanese hostage. the fate of both men are in question. there have been a lot of rumors and developments as we've been on air this morning. let's get right to it. let's bring in cnn terrorism contributor paul cruickshank. let's get your take on the developments we've heard on this situation. i found it surprising that jordan is talking realistically about this swap. you are not so surprised. >> they want to get their pilot back. it's a big deal for them. he ejected from a fighter jet in syria in december. was captured by isis. taken into a town in syria. they want to get him back. isis want to get sagida al rishawi back. she's an isis living legend. >> at what cost? >> at the cost of doing a swap from isis point of view that this would be a big propaganda coup for isis.

even back in december of 2005 a month after captured by the jordanians they tried to do a prisoner swap then. they've tried to do this for quite some time. >> jordan gets their fighter pilot back and isis gets this suicide bomber from ten years ago back in their hands but they get more than that. >> they get a lot more than that. they're negotiating state to state with jordan with japan and a major world power. this will be a big propaganda coup for them at a time when they kind of need a win because they've lost kobani the town in northern syria. they've been driven out northeast of baghdad. isis needs a win right now. this would be a big recruitment pull for their supporters. >> we're waiting to see where japanese come down on this. we're not sure if that man would be freed in addition to the jordanian pilot. what are the complications for the united states here? we have two allies.

we have jordan and japan negotiating for hostages which is something the united states does not do. we need both countries particularly jordan in the fight against isis. >> the united states does do this because we saw with sergeant bowe bergdahl they did a swap last may for five taliban commanders who were in guantanamo bay. the united states cannot really tell the jordanians and japanese don't negotiate for your people because they did it for one of their soldiers in the past. there is a precedent for this. i think there may be a swap today. there are a lot of rumors swirling around about this. we haven't confirmed them yet. i think it's quite likely. >> does a swap like this with isis nonetheless, does this impact jordanian/u.s. relations. how do you think it could impact? jordan has been very important in supporting the american led coalition against isis. >> i don't think it's going to impact the relationship. i think any criticism is going to be very muted.

the united states really needs jordan as part of this anti-isis coalition. an arab country. a key power in the region involved in air strikes in syria. i think we're very unlikely to see any criticism from the united states. >> what does it do for other hostages including this female american that's been alluded to by u.s. officials? >> if isis succeeds this time there will be perhaps more demands for prisoner swaps. we've seen in the past demand the release of an al qaeda facilitator in jail here in the united states. we may see more of these kind of requests. this will of course incentivize isis to capture more international pasthostages. >> let's get perspective from james ruben joining us from london. james, as you watch this we've been talking the united states on an official level does not like to negotiate with terrorists. as paul correctly points out, there have been deals for

prisoners before. how do you think the u.s. officially and the state department is looking at this right now? >> we obviously have very close relationships with both jordan and japan. they are both extremely close allies of the united states. so i guess in diplomatic terms we feel their pain. as you point out, the idea of taking a step that might encourage further hostage taking that might encourage isis to believe that every time they take someone they can get one of their prisoners out is not good news. let's face it. this is a pretty unique situation where everyone's interests do align and that's why it seems to plausible in that the woman terrorist in prison is apparently a relation of one of the original founders of islamic al qaeda in iraq and you have very prominent japanese

journalist and then you have jordan looking out for its pilot the way any country would. so these are unique situations and they may not ever come again where you can have a tribe in the region negotiate on behalf of jordan and be able to talk to both sides. isis is not going to be involved in a lot of trades even if this comes through but it's not something the united states would want to encourage, no. >> absolutely not. you make a good point. this is a unique circumstance. this unique circumstance is huge propaganda great propaganda for isis. if it's unique now, it may not be unique in the future. if it works this time it might work again and that's what isis is trying to do. it's a great recruiting tool for them. even though this is a unique situation, do you think the u.s. has to speak out against what is potentially going to happen the swap? >> well let me give you an

analogy. i'm sure someone will hate this analogy. when israel loses one soldier to a terrorist group in the middle east and that's happened a lot where they have been taken hostage and hundreds of palestinian or other prisoners are often swapped for that one israeli soldier, we don't criticize that because we understand that each country, each of our allies has to make tough choices about what they will do for their soldier and their people. since our soldiers and our people are not directly involved i would be stunned if the united states were to criticize either a close ally like jordan or perhaps our closest ally in asia japan. >> amazing circumstance that we're even talking about right now. the fact that this prisoner swap could happen between jordan and isis and what does that mean for the fate of the japanese hostage. a lot of things to consider and

to follow through the day. thank you both very much. >> it could happen soon. stay with us for developments on this. it could come down any minute. also happening right now, tensions flaring in one of the world's most dangerous hot spots. evacuations under way in israel. this comes after hezbollah claimed responsibility for firing a missile on an israeli military vehicle. officials say the two israeli soldiers were killed. seven others were injured in that attack. overnight israel launched several air strikes in response. this latest round of fighting comes more than a week after an israeli air strike killed six members of hezbollah. not to mention, by the way, an iranian general working alongside them. we'll speak to george mitchell who has vast experience in that region. this could flare-up very quick quickly. a dangerous border. we're going to get back to the crazy situation on the east

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tensions rising at this hour in the middle east. two israeli soldiers have been killed according to the israeli military along with a u.n. peace keeper in a missile attack in the area of the lebanon/syria

border. >> hezbollah is claiming responsibility for this attack. we want to bring in elise labott and also with us in studio former senator george mitchell and former special envoy to the middle east. thank you both for being with us. i want to start on the ground there on the border between israel and lebanon, what is the latest? >> reporter: well the latest is it's been quiet for the last few hours but started this morning with that anti-tank missile fire from the lebanon area into israel hitting an israeli military convoy. two soldiers were killed. seven wounded. israel responded with air strikes and with artillery fire into that area in lebanon. israeli prime minister blaming not only the hezbollah and the lebanese government because obviously they are firing from lebanon but also iran john saying that iran is responsible and referring to those nuclear negotiations right now saying that iran can't be allowed to

have a nuclear umbrella to continue its terror in the region. >> thank you very much. let's get the latest here with senator george mitchell. so great to have you here. you're an expert especially in this area. this is the latest in a string or a series of confrontations in this northern region. what do you make of it? why is this flaring up now? >> i think it's particularly risky and dangerous now because there are so many intersecting and overlapping conflicts in the entire region that no one can know how this might spiral into a much broader conflict dragging in and maybe combining separate fires that are now burning into one large conflict. it's particularly important that all sides exercise restraint to the degree possible. this has been going on for several days of course back and forth. hezbollah is taking a huge risk in doing this.

their rationale for maintaining a large militia force in lebanon has been to defend against israel. they've now undermined that rationale by extending themselves into syria on behalf of the assad government a benefactor of theirs, along with iran. if they drag this region into a broader conflict i think it will have a severe adverse effect on them. they are already stretched thin in syria. i think for israel the last thing it needs is overt conflict on any borders. it faces a difficult situation with hamas on the southern border, hezbollah and -- >> that's the last time we spoke was about that conflict. >> you have a border with hezbollah heavily militarized.

there is a risk for israelis as well and you would think that hezbollah has been doing nothing but arm themselves along that border since that conflict in 2006. do you think israel is prepared for the kind of hot war with ground troops and air strikes we saw in 2006? >> i think israel is very much prepared militarily. israel is dominant militarily in the region. the danger is the threat not so much from direct clashes on the border but from rocket and missile attacks. published reports in israel not to mention nonpublic are that hezbollah possesses about 30,000 to 50,000 rockets placed along the northern israeli border. they are more accurate and more destructive than the crude arsenal that hamas has and less accurate than the arsenal that iran has but does pose a serious threat to the safety and security of the people of israel

for which the government of israel of course is very deeply concerned. so i think a full outbreak of violence there combined with the hair trigger situation that exists throughout the region is a very dangerous and risky thing for all concerned. >> you talk about for all concerned. you are the former mid east envoy. you know conversations that occur and the role that united states has made in middle east peace talks in the past. does the united states have a role in this immediate trading of fire? >> especially given the tension between the president and the president of israel. >> the fact is that we do have a role. we're close allies with israel. we also have a close relationship with saudi arabia jordan many other countries in the region. they look to the united states despite their frequent static and criticism back and forth. the reality is they all look to the united states as the world's

dominant power to maintain both a presence and hopefully a calming and reassuring -- >> do you expect to hear the president speak out or secretary of state to speak out? >> i expect both will address themselves to the subject. i'm quite certain that both have been in discussions with leaders in the region. of course we don't recognize hezbollah. we don't have direct contact with them. we do have contact with the lebanese government. we have contact of course with israelis and jordanians and i'm sure the administration is urging restraint on all sides. >> senator george mitchell a dangerous moment. thank you for being with us. >> thank you, senator. coming up for us he left his post in afghanistan but will the u.s. army call it desertion? on the verge of a decision about former taliban hostage bowe bergdahl. female vo: i actually have a whole lot of unused vacation days, but where am i gonna go? i just don't have the money to travel right now. i usually just go back home to see my parents

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a decision on the future of army sergeant bowe bergdahl will be announced in the coming days. that's really the bottom line from the pentagon. you'll recall bergdahl was captured by the taliban after leaving his post in afghanistan. he was then held for five years before the obama administration made a deal for bergdahl in exchange for five guantanamo bay detainees last year. >> officials are denying reports that they have already decided that bergdahl should be charged

with desertion. let's bring in our pentagon correspondent barbara starr. what do we know about the timing at this point? >> well good morning. the pentagon is adamant that no decision has been made and that there's no time line for making a decision. it will happen when it happens, officials say. behind the scenes they are getting closer. the general in charge of looking at the investigation has had the report for some time now. the facts basically are the facts. they have not changed. he has wide latitude in deciding what he wants to do. it could range from bergdahl going free from any charge any discipline all of the way to making a very serious charge of desertion with him potentially facing a court-martial proceeding. i think the bottom line is the pentagon most officials say and they pretty much hope it doesn't go to a full trial. they say nobody wants to see it.

he is going to have to be held accountable, they say, for leaving his post. >> general, i want to get your take on what barbara is talking about. the range of possibility that bergdahl could face and she's hearing folks in the pentagon don't want to see it go to a full trial. what do you think middle ground would be then? >> first, if i can explain and barbara is laying it out well but if i can explain the only people that can decide what happens is an individual who holds the responsibility of what we call a general court-martial convening authority. a four-star general in charge of force com has that responsibility and it will be based on what the investigating officer provided as information. so the general is checking that information and seeing what kind of recommendation the general provided in terms of potential crime that's been committed or not and then he really has three

choices. he can allow the individual to go free because there is not enough evidence to go to trial. he can give them a lesser degree of discipline like what we call an article 15 procedure and it's more of an administrative procedure, or he can go to court-martial and in this case it would be a general court-martial because it's a general deciding it. in a general court-martial for desertion if that's what the investigate investigation shows that sergeant bergdahl did, punishments range and that will occur after the court-martial trial. the punishments range from whatever the judge decide with a maximum punishment of death for desertion in a combat environment. >> general, what will this decision be based on? where will they hang their decision per se? might it be on whether or not they determine that sergeant bergdahl intended to return to the post as in when he walked off, he planned to walk off forever and perhaps go find the

taliban? >> that's exactly what's in this investigative report. it's called an article 32 investigation. what the general has provided is interview with probably a hundred people or more that all have -- to include sergeant bergdahl himself -- about what happened that night. was sergeant bergdahl planning on leaving for a few hours and then returning. did he leave and get captured? was it what we would call awol absent without leave, or was his intent or indication of the intent to truly desert forever and ever amen. all of those things have been what's been determined in the initial investigation and then that will be put before the trial if one is decided to have happen and only thing who can decide if it goes to trial is the general. the department of defense back in washington is saying hey, we've given this to the him. he has to decide this.

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you know yesterday when we were talking about the blizzard and how bad the storm was, we were looking at long island. i said i would not wish it on my first enemy to be having to surf in this weather. look at these guys. this man -- i assume it's a man. he's got such a wet suit on we probably don't know if it's a man or a woman. it's a man. they decided to take the challenge and they were surfing in the snow. john was that you? >> really really smart people. >> how much i have to pay you to do that? >> millions. all right. guess what?

>> stronger men than we are. >> after all that snow there's more coming. there is more headed toward the northeast. they don't expect this storm to be quite as big but it is going to come and there's not a lot of places to put it. the storm that just passed buried the town of worcester, massachusetts, in nearly three feet of snow. that's an all-time record. that's not far from where my father lives. he got that much snow. took him 3 1/2 hours to dig out. the amazing thing is he did not lose power. most people did not lose power because the snow was so light and fluffy that it did not cause the outages that some feared. down on the coast, it was hit especially hard. high winds eroded so much of that coast destroying several homes and tore down part of a seawall. brian todd joins us now near where that wall went down. what are you seeing? >> reporter: this town just starting to recover. they were hit with three different elements from this storm. of course the devastating snow

the wind and whiteout conditions but also the storm surge. they are just waking up to that this morning and assessing the damage recovering from it. you have utility crews down here on this main drag here in marshfield starting to get the power up. some lines were damaged. the real damage was a little bit in this direction where the storm surge breached a seawall. that was some of the most devastating flooding that this town got and it was the gist of the damage here. not so much from snow and wind but from that seawall that breached in at least two areas. a 50-foot breach in each of those areas and several homes got flooded out. we got footage yesterday when we got here during the second high tide. that was violent action when the storm surged from the second high tide hitting that seawall and starting to compromise it a little bit. the main breach of it occurred during the first high tide in the morning and that's when a lot of those homes got flooded out. one man had to be rescued from his home by rescue crews olding

a front end loader. he was injured on the second floor by flying glass and he's okay. no significant injuries to report. this town is just now assessing all of the flood damage and violence from that storm which really hit it when that seawall breached yesterday. kate and john? >> brian todd in it for us. thank you so much. you talk about thankfully no injuries despite what looked like a brutal hit to that area. brian, thanks so much. hillary clinton testifying again about what happened in benghazi when she was head of the state department. why is she testifying again and what does this continued controversy mean for her potential in 2016. we'll talk about that. was it a fashion statement or a political statement? what the first lady wore when she was in saudi arabia and the controversy or not now surrounding it.

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former secretary of state hillary clinton has agreed to testify before the house select committee that's investigating the attacks in benghazi. cummings said clinton didn't hesitate for one second when she was asked to testify. >> four americans including the u.s. ambassador there chris stephens were killed in the attack. hello to both of you. sally and doug same question to both of you but for different reasons. why? sally, why would secretary clinton agree to go before this committee and testify when she herself said all of the questions have been exhausted

and been answered and, doug why are republicans still harping on this? >> your second question answers the first. why not do it? she has nothing to hide. after all, another republican house investigation committee already cleared the administration and secretary clinton of any wrongdoing in benghazi. that was the seventh investigation. they want another committee to show that nothing went wrong and nothing could have been avoided and she did nothing wrong, you know that just shows the american people where the republican priorities are instead of solving real problems that our country faces. >> doug speak for all republicans right now. >> i can't do that. what i can tell you is not all of the questions have been answered. that's one of the reasons the secretary is speaking there. she wants to also reset the debate from where it was last

time. when she testified last time and said what difference does it make whether we lied about a youtube video or not, that didn't go well for her. she needs to reset the debate. you covered so many congressional hearings. often members of congress can go a bit overboard when they question people in the other party. republicans need to be firm and tough. they also need to be fair. that's one of the reasons that the chairman is a former prosecutor bothliked on both sides. >> if she has nothing to hide and the committee wants to be fair this will be nice and they'll have tea and move on. >> eighth hearing to find no wrongdoing. >> the first lady just went to saudi arabia along with president obama to mourn the death of king abdullah and pay their respects. when she got off the plane and when she met the current king she was not wearing traditional muslim head scarf.

there are people on twitter that suggested that was disrespectful. other first ladies have done it in the past. laura bush did it. angela merkel has done it as well. not done every time but some suggest that she should have done so here. let me pose this question to you specifically. do you believe it was a political statement and if so do you think it's worthy of making such a political statement? >> other first ladies have not worn the veil. other political leaders have not worn the veil to be clear. laura bush among them number one. number two, 37% of those tweets were coming from outside of saudi arabia so exactly where the criticism is coming from and how much the criticism is politically motivated we should wonder. we know that in 2010 michelle obama did wear a veil when she went to malaysia. did she not wear it as a political statement? personally i hope so. i think the brand of islam that is pushed onto the world by saudi arabia is extremist and

dangerous and it would be right of her to protest that even in a silent but powerful way. >> it frustrates me when someone criticizes the protocol because there's a lot of leeway that's given when it comes to western officials that are going over there. we've seen that over and over again in the past. that's why i pose this on the fashion front, doug. for a man that's a fan of head scarfs and you do wear a lot of headgear outreach factor from one to ten? >> i'm not wearing my headgear braces today. those are gone. it's zero for the reason that john said. when you talk about people on twitter, that means someone is angry about something. there's an old song that says the world today is a mess. head scarfs are not why the world today is a mess. the world today is a mess because of problems that we're facing throughout the middle east with what's going on in yemen right now. we're better off trying to tackle those problems than having me talk about fashion for goodness sake. >> that's a crisis right there.

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the number of measles cases linked to disneyland is now growing. there are at least 50 cases linked to the theme park and 13 other cases linked to the outbreak in six other states. arizona officials are especially concerned. they now warn hundreds more people in the state may have been exposed because of the disneyland connection. >> measles is very contagious. one of the most contagious diseases in the world. despite that fact many parents refuse to get their children vaccinated because they're afraid of the vaccine. >> senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen met with one family whose child has been forced to live in quarantine for a month because in their view of another family's decision. >> it's a warm day in oakland, california. a perfect time for dave and jennifer simon to take their baby out for a walk but the stroller sits idle and olivia is

stuck inside the house and has been for nearly a month. >> it's not fair. >> it all started with a voice mail the simons received two days after she saw her pediatrician for a cold. >> they said your daughter has potentially been exposed to measles in the doctor's office. we need to talk to you about it. call us tomorrow. they explained what had happened was that an unvaccinated child who was purposely unvaccinated by their parents had been in the office the same day we had. >> that unvaccinated child had measles and at six months old she's too young to get vaccinated making her vulnerable to the virus that can lurk for hours in the air. the simons feared the worse. she could become deaf or die and they were angry at the other child's parents for refusing to vaccinate. >> i was

>> i was upset that someone who made a personal choice for their child had endangered my child. >> reporter: for weeks, her parents have had to watch her for the first signs of measles, watery eyes, a fever, a cough and a runny nose. so far, livea's been fine but she could still get sick. if you could meet the parents of the child who put your child at risk because they chose not to vaccinate, what would you say to them? >> well first of all, i'd want to know if their kid was okay. i would say, you guys, what do you think about vaccines now? >> livea's quarantine ends in a few days. >> those chubby legs. elizabeth cohen joins us now. i understand there are nine kids in quarantine in that county alone for a similar situation? what's going on? >> reporter: that's right, livea

is one of night babies in alameda county who are in quarantine because they came in contact with someone who had measles. that's a lot, nine babies for one county. and you can imagine the expense the inconvenience. the simons had to fly grandma in from houston to take care of livea because they have to go to work. they'd tapped out all their time off. it's not a small thing. >> reporter: and . >> i have to say that mother is very calm. as a new mother myself, i cannot express how terrifying the situation is to me having a 4-month-old and the fact that this is a similar situation. and she just went into an office and her daughter was exposed to this. >> reporter: your baby is too young to get vaccinated. so babies under the age of one are completely vulnerable to measles.

it's not enough just to stay away from people who might have measles. people are contagious before they show signs. so for several days people infected with measles are walking around feeling totally fine and they have measles and they're contagious. and measles is so contagious if someone with measles walked into a room and walked out of that room and two hours later you walked into that room you could get measles. it lingers in the air for hours. >> there are people opposed to taking the vaccine or giving the vaccine to children. >> reporter: there are. and so when i've talked to these people and when i've read what they have to say online, it's usually about autism. they're afraid vaccinating their child -- >> that science has been debunked elizabeth. >> reporter: completely debunked over and over and over again. so every respected medical authority says look, it doesn't cause autism. the science that said it did was basically fake science. and you need to vaccinate your child to protect your child and

to protect other children who can't be vaccinated. for example, children who have cancer can't be vaccinated. and they're completely vulnerable to any measles that might be lurking. >> tough subject for a lot of parents on both sides of that debate. elizabeth, thanks so much. appreciate it. >> adorable little girl. coming up next for us losing your identical twin in a time of war and madness. 70 years after the liberation of the auschwitz con trags camp a victim of the horrors there goes back to the scene of the crime for remembrance and to try to find closure. that's coming up.

this week is the 70th anniversary of the liberation of auschwitz, the nazi concentration camp and the death camp. 6 million jews were murdered by the nazis during the holocaust. >> and one of the children who survived the horrors of auschwitz was separated from his identical twin brother in all of it and he is still searching for him. our atika shubert has his story. >> this is it. >> reporter: this man knows this place, this building. he once peeked into a room and saw an elderly man covered in blood. at first he thought they were nightmares. now he knows they are fragments of his memories of auschwitz. he struggles with the emotion.

>> this heart is beating. >> it will be okay. >> these are children who survived at auschwitz. >> reporter: 70 years ago, he was one of the children liberated from auschwitz. then he was 4 years old. within days of liberation he was adopted by a man searching for his own wife and children in the chaos and taken to live in israel. but this was also unwittingly a separation. the id numbers tattooed on his arm showed he had an identical twin brother. numbers 87733 and 87734. auschwitz records show both boys were genetically identical twins subjected to the experiments of nazis.

medical documents after liberation show that both survived. he had dreams of a boy sleeping beside him. but it took 60 years and the help of his genealogist for him to prove his instinct was real. >> without memory it's much easier to reaccomplish-establish a reasonable life. even with that he had nightmares. imagine what would happened if he remembered. >> reporter: do you think you will find his brother? >> i really don't know. the rest of it depends on the brother himself. >> reporter: they since found first cousins in the united states and this is his only photo of his birth parents. now i know my mother's face, he says. before i had remembered only her

blonde hair and now i can see her. but he still searches for his brother and he comes here in the hope that he remembers some clue another survivor might recognize him, maybe even his own brother. he says he has a new dream now, walking in a forest with his brother wearing identical clothes. do you think that dream will become real? >> my hope. >> reporter: do you think you're closer to making that dream real? >> i don't know. >> reporter: in this this place of his nightmares, he finds hope to dream. atika shubert, nbc auschwitz. >> remarkable, remarkable story. atika shubert, thank you so much. tonight, please join our wolf blitzer for "stories of hope from survivors, voices of

auschwitz." that's at 9:00 p.m. eastern here on cnn. >> you can only imagine what he feels in returning to that place. thanks for joining us. >> "legal view" with ashleigh banfield starts right now. making a deal with isis a possible prisoner swap with jordan to stop the next beheading. but what is the price for negotiating with the world's most brutal terrorists? also ahead, think the big storm didn't live up to all the hype? think again. while some big cities definitely dodged a bullet coastal towns in the cross-hairs got a double shot. storm surge, flooding on top of three feet of snow. and also this hour -- >> count