auschwitz. >> auschwitz, and i'm happy to be here with you. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com well, that was a very powerful and moving hour by cn cnn's wolf blitszer there. tonight on this broadcast, terror threats at home and abroad and fears that the super bowl could be a target. and desperate attempts to save a journalist held by isis with time running out. and the bombshell of the murder trial of expatriot aaron hernandez in the wake of everything on the nfl's record of vie leps to the circuit of deflategate and with the super bowl around the corner, can the league solve its image problem? >> and adding insult to injury more snow on the way after the

blizzard of 2015. we have late arest on when and where. we so much to get to. and i want to begin with the spike of online and against airlines. we have renee marsh for us live at laguardia airport. there have been 50 online threats since january 17th, and what are the airlines doing to find who is responsibility? >> don, the fbi is working to search ip addresses to find the culprits responsible for this this, and as far as what is behind the uptick, i spoke to several officials today, and one o official telling me that these are copycat incident ss, and sparked by the incidents that is fueling it. but this is important to note that sit that it is a federal crime and even if the intent is not to bring down a jetliner and if somebody thought it was a funny

prank, it is not. the federal aweuthorities are taking it seriously, and the punishment could be up to ten years behind bar, and oftentime s a plea deal so you could face hefty fine, and we are talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars. needless to say, we are talking about not only the fbi, but also from homeland security secretary jeh johnson, don. >> and do they believe it is coming from isis members? >> well i spoke with a couple of people today, and one official said to me and again, couching it as off of the record but he said to me isis most likely would not tweet that we are going to blow up a plane, they would simply do it. that being said we are in a time in which there is this threat from isis and aqap and so no one wants to take that chance and no one wants to be wrong that one time. so what you are seeing is fight

fighter jets scrambled in one situation, and law enforcement, and bomb-sniffing dogs all called to the scene, because they don't want to take that chance, don? and heightened level of a awareness. thank you, rene marsh. i want to bring a panel, sarah chopnick who was on a flight that was diverted sunday and you were on a plane from orlando to los angeles, and you were diverted because of a threat by isis, and what happened? >> well, the pilot came on and he said that we have to make an emergency landing in dallas because of a security threat. we have been informed ta that we have a threat the plane, i went to twitter and typed in the

flight number, and it said that there was a bomb threat on delta flight 1061 so i knew what the threat was, and what delta was looking at. >> and this is the tweet. it say s thas that we planted explosives on flight 1061 heading to orlando, and the soldiers are waiting for signal. what did you think when you saw that and did you share it with the passengers? >> well, the guy sitting next to me, and we looked at a it and ed aed a itt it, and we said, this is not just aviation in general, but our specific flight, and it is alarming to see not only the flight number but the path and everything that it was so specific to know, and i think that most of the people on the flight actually knew about the tweet and had read the tweet before we had even landed. >> listen were people remaining calm and what did the pilots

say? >> the pilot said that we had received a threat via social media, and he told us that before we landed, and he said it was not a mechanical or technical issue, but a threat that we had received and that is why we needed to land the plane, and that it was a security issue, and everyone kind of remained kind of calm which is surprising in that situation. i think that everyone was internally very anxious, but on the outside remained calm until we touched down. >> all right. sarah, thank you, i want to get to jeff. 52 threats in the last two weeks, and how do you decide which ones to take seriously with so many planes in the air? >> well it is difficult, and you take every one of them seriously, and we start with a that but what is difficult to decide is this a real threat and to what level do we e respond? well there are internal procedures that the airlines and the tsa will take to vet the threats to determine if it is a

real deal or not. and as you mentioned earlier, nobody wants to be wrong. so oftentimes you are going to overare respond rather than under respond. >> and here sis a tweet sent yesterday. i have a massive semi nuclear exploe explosive on board flight 4200 from san diego to dallas. if this fails, i will shoot the plane down. and if the threats are made via social media, can the law enforcement trace them back via ip address or some means? >> that is the game here shgs, and some people are aware that there is a whole part of the internet that is very difficult to track people, and there is a certain browsers that are made to enter those parts of the internet, and that is part of the cyber detective game that we are playing now, ard for every ability to hide on the internet, there is a counter ability to the find a perp on the internet. so it is law enforcement at a whole another level with the

cyber security and trying to track people who don't want to be found. so it is going to be taking more advance ss in technology, and law enforcement, and every time we come up with something to find them they come up with someplace else to hide. >> thank you, jeff price, and sarah chovnick. and there are fewer targets that on the super bowl. jeh johnson says that there is no credible threat but what will it take to keep everybody safe. and rachel blackhawk helicopters, and truck-sized x-rays and take us through the extreme security measures for everybody entering phoenix stadium sunday? >> yes, don. it is a huge coordination of agencies and the blackhawk held kopt ers that you mentioned, those are from the u.s. border patrol. they are also borrowing some of the tsa folk and the screening

equipment to work the doors. 3,000 phoenix police, and 4,000 private security here, and there is regular bomb sniffing dog, and nuclear bomb sniffing dog, and by the way, t the federal air marshals are loaning the personnel who are called the behavioral specialist and people are walking around the area looking strange, they are supposed to recognize them. >> and none theless, you can see that getting ready for the activities there, and there is a little bit of the celebration going on behind rachel. and so today, homeland director jeh johnson said this about the security for the super bowl, and let's listen. >> i think that the key is vigilance, and we have devoted a lot of resources and a lot of effort to making sure that this event is safe and secure. >> we we have 24 expert work groups that have thought of everything from cyber crimes to intelligence analysis and everything else. we are e preparer eare e pre -- we

are e prepared. >> and it is expected that 72 million people are will be watching and it is important to mote that there are no significant threats detected. >> no credible threat. but any time you gather people for the super bowl and the most high profile event in the country, it is a level one target and you can tell by the numb number of things a that they are bring into the area. everything that we mentioned before and oh by the way, there is also bionet detectors, and talking about a range from nuclear to on the ground and by the way, you can bring a lot of things into the stadium and no backpacks or purses or drones, and i don't know if that is a pushback pr what happened at the white house, don. >> a lot to deal with here rachel. appreciate you joining us and standby. joining us is bob bair and

homeland security juliette kayyem, and juliette i hate to say, but the superr bowl is a big target and how do you prevent a lone wolf there? >> well, it is not perfect but so much security preparation has been done before the super bowl, and it is a known date and known place, and those are two variables that are great for the security planning. it has been designated a national security special event which is going to allow the deployment of all of the federal resources that we heard in the segment before. it requires a coordination of the local state, and federal law enforcement, and first responders which has bneen ongoing, and essentially for the last six to nine months and as far as planning goes this is where public safety does know how the function well because they have a place and a date. it also means however a lot of people are watching and

spectators and there is a lot of people disturbing people out there and so you are constantly balancing the two needs between throwing a big party, throwing a big sporting event, and also ensuring the safety and security of people there, and a constant balance. >> and it is adding a whole other level on top of it. how do they determine if a tweeted threat the super bowl is a real thing, juliette some. >> well, there is a number of resources right nouw that are monitoring twitter and twitter feed to determine who is a jokester or should we be more concerned about someone. law enforcement is then deployed to assess who the person is and if it seems like a credible threat. the london olympics ended up being a great test study in this regard and the london olympics had 20,000 to some odd disruption and we have learned

how the to protect themselveses and to learn who is doing what. this is just the fay chur of the big events and that is why you will see jeh johnson the secretary of homeland security of leaning forward and saying we have got this given the number of people and over 1 billion watching sunday night. >> and bob, i want to talk about the message reportedly from isis, and it is released and i can't confirm the awe then theticity, but it is a new deadline and it is 9:30 a.m. eastern tomorrow for killing a jordanian pilot as well as a second japanese hostage if jordan does not release a female terrorist, and they said they will swap her for the pilot if isis can prove they are still alive. is a hostage swap a good idea? >> well i think so don. the pilot was from a major

tribe, and the tribal groups in jordan are reluctant about this war in syria and iraq and supporting the united states and if he needs their support to swap that prisoner for the pilot hostage, he should do it. and we shouldn't say anything about it. these are internal politic, and we should not get involved in it and it, and we should not deal with the terrorists but the islamic state is this in between terrorism, and the islamic state, and so exception ss could be made. >> and bob, some say this sets a bad precedent? >> well, it does but the problem is the islamic state owns territory the and it is a criminal state or terror state if you like and it is a little bit like korea, and dealing with a rogue state is not a good idea, and the islamic state is worse, but we have to hold the coalition together and if king abdullah says to swap

the prizsoner to get the pilot back, we should do it. we should not hold to the principles with absolute solidity 100% because there are some exceptions. >> thank you shgs, juliette kayem. and bob baer. the nfl's problems are not just the super bowl security it ranges from the aaron hernandez murder trial to deflategate. and speaking of new england, more wicked weather heading your way. we have the forecast coming up, and plus the family who lost half their house in the blizzard. their dramatic story next. om the bad?" so we gave people the power of the review. and now angie's list is revolutionizing local service again. you can easily buy and schedule services from top-rated providers. conveniently stay up to date on progress. and effortlessly turn your photos into finished projects with our angie's list app.

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of records broken. tell us what you rare seeing? >> yes, a number of records broken, don. boston set the all-time snowiest january on record and came three inches shy of the all-time record. look behind me and you can see the mess all over the city. where they have been plowing, there are snow mounds taller than me, and they had to cancel school tomorrow because many of the secondary roads are not plowed and the cars are under snow, and the sidewalks are not clear. one other thing is that the buses can not see the kids around the snow piles, and they felt that it was best to cancel the school for today, and the temperatures are going to be very, very cold here, and as they continue to dig out, and also expect another storm system on the way many a couple of days. >> jennifer, how bad is this one supposed to be? >> well, it is not anywhere like as bad as the one we saw, and this is dumping 24 inches in boston and 35 inches in places

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they are joining us via skype. how are you? >> very good. we are warm in a hotel room. >> and in a hotel room because, yes, we have been seeing the video of the whole back of the home was really demolished and surveying the damage and we don't know if anybody has officially done it but is it a complete loss? >> i'm not quite sure, but i know that the inspector who did come in today had said that he was somewhat concerned about the back half perhaps collapsing, because of the weight of the ice. >> yes. so what were you thinking when you sit, and it must have been just unbelievable to watch the ocean enter your living room wall where your wall used to be. >> we were always, we were close enough othe water, but literally

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as the patriots prepare to take the field against the seahawks on sunday the mird trial of former patriot's tight end aaron hernandez is finally set to begin. opening statements are set to begin in fall river, massachusetts, and susan candiotti is covering the case for us, and she joins me now. hi susan. >> hi don. it is very safe to say that at this very hour patriot's owner bob kraft and coach bill belichick are probably working on the xs and the os for a winning strategy for the super bowl, but as soon as that is over they may be preparing for another important event, because both men are on the state's witness list in that aaron hernandez trial. >> reporter: the last time that

the new england patriots played in the super bowl in 2012, aaron hen dez was on the field. this time, he's sidelined. on trial for murder pleading not guilty. if his former bosses team owner bob kraft and coach bill belichick take the stand, they are expected to testify about their conversations with their super star. the timing is critical and just days after the bullet riddled body of semi pro player oden lloyd is found, hernandez returns to the stadium with media watching. sources say that kraft and belichick talk face to face with hernandez, and they say that hernandez flat out denies he had anything to do with lloyd's murder and the source adds that he tells the coach the same thing, he wasn't there. and former teammate wide receiver matt slater trying to make sense of it. >> as well as the families

involved in the situation, and you know a lot of people were affected by that situation, so they are all in my prayers. >> reporter: at first, it seems a mountain of circumstantial evidence against the star tight end who has pleaded not guilty. 18 months later, the case isn't the same. >> the universe of damning evidence has shrunk. >> shrunk thanks to the defense team scoring some victories. arguably the biggest, a text message from lloyd to his sister about who he was with sent minutes before he was killed. lloyd writes nfl, just so you know. the judge ruling it is inadmissible and not enough proof that lloyd thought that he was going to die. >> if the jury believes that aaron herp dez believe ss he was with oden lloyd before he was killed, it is not a big leap to believe that he was involved in

the murder. >> reporter: yet the prosecutors say they have surveillance video showing him get in the car with hernandez and also carlos ortiz and another man who has plead not guilty. that car drives into a industrial park and then later, hernandez back home less than a mile away holding what prosecutors say is the alleged murder weapon but it was never found. >> are there is no murder weapon or a witness that is credible would testify that aaron hernandez did it, but there is no such witness. >> reporter: and the judge blocking any mention that hernandez is indicted for two more murders in boston. the prosecution witness alexander bradley can't say that he is suing hernandez for allegedly shoot ging him in the face a few months before lloyd's murder murder. will the state overcome any weaknesses? >> so there is still a good amount of circumstancetial

evidence against aaron hernandez, but it is not the slam dunk case that it seemed to be. >> reporter: and opening statements are beginning tomorrow morning in a trial that could last more than two months. don? >> this is going to be fascinating, susan candiotti. thank you very much. i want to go back to rachel nickels, and also to the law professor from the university of new hampshire school of law who was in the report that you saw there, and so, it is not that there was no murder weapon,r and everybody thought it was slam dunk and the start of the trial coinciding with the super bowl and don't forget that patriot's owner robert kraft and head coach bill belichick listed as potential witnesses, and how is everyone reacting to this? >> well there is interest in the sports world, because the guy is an nfl player, but it is at a distance because it is a while since he was on the

football field, and the patriots severed ties with him right after that. and robert kraft said that he felt that they had been duped, and he felt that he was involved in immature activities, but it is a long way from murder. and certainly the patriot teammates el feel like that he is not related to them in a capacity of friendship or any other way, and they have not had any contact with him. >> and michael, should we read anything to the fact that 13 men and 7 women are this in the jury pool and that there are more women than men in this, and what if anything should we read into this? >> i am not sure anything don. a what i think that what is more crucial is that the way they answered the jury questionnaires pro police or skeptical of the police. because those are more relevant

factors. i don't think that the gender itself is more explanatory, but clear clearly those consulting the hernandez team is aware of the jury come position, and to the extent that they believe that the gender will matter, they may to some extent condition what they say in court to address it, but to me, don, what is more important the ideology and what do they believe of people charged with crimes, and what do they believe of the police and do they have suspicions and that is meaningful. >> and also susan, this is patriot's country here, and were there any concerns about an impartial jury? >> yes, there were a lot of concerns about that. and as michael also pointed out, remember we won't know how they answered those juror questionnaire questionnaires because they were interviewed to be on the jury in secret on sidebar and so we don't know how they answered to those questions that michael brought up. the judge has gone out of her way to get as many jurors in the pool as possible. she had 1,000 people this h

there and that is ten times as more than normal and she has barred the wearing of any kind of patriot's gear or any other sports team gear in the courtroom, no t-shirts or sweatshirts or anything to keep the atmosphere neutral, don. >> that is tough to do as i said, this is patriot's country. and michael, one more thing, and one thing that we know that you are thinking about whether drugs played a role in the murder. you say that could be a key issue for the defense, and how so? >> well, it could, don. it could in the sense that if hernandez' lawyers arghue that he was high on the drugs the night that oden was killed and he lack lacked the legal capacity to plan a murder that should help that he should not be convicted of first-degree murder and not a complete defense, but maybe if he is suffering brain concussions in football and

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there is a lot going on in phoenix this week as we head into the super bowl and so much go going on that you may not have realize had the patriots and the seahawks are preparing to play football. rachel nichols is looking at the distractions. skwlr the super bowlthe biggest game of the year, and so far, not a lot of talk about football. for more than a week, the sports world is consumed about the nfl's investigation into whether or not the patriots cheated when

they used deflated footballs in the afc championship game and today new england's players try d tried to move on are from that discussion. >> i talked a bt that last week and you know i'm not going to be talking about any reports or anything like that this week because i am focusing on the game. >> and now, it is the members of the seahawks under the league's office. running back mar shaun linshawn lynch has been thumbing the nose at the league's requirement that players speak to the media. >> i am here so i won't get fined. i am here so i won't get fined. i am just here so i won't get fined. >> reporter: he gave the same answer 29 times. >> just so i won't get fined, boss. >> reporter: and he is wearing a hat that is outside of league regulation and one that promoet promotes his personal beast mode brand. when the chicago bears' brian ur lauker did something similar, the nfl fined him $100,000.

and today, espn reported that the nfl is considering a similar fine for lynch. so what did the nfl running back do later? he wore another hat with the same logo and again stonewalled the media. >> you know why i'm here. you know why i'm here. they know why i'm here. you know why i'm here. you know why i'm here. >> reporter: the seahawks are backing linynch in what is a mushrooming battle with the nfl. >> i understand that people want to see him do things in another way and so he is not comefortable with that, and that is what he is telling you. >> reporter: and nfl talk message ing messaging boards are concerned about the logo on the hat or the pressure of the football when last year it was so slow to respond to domestic violence issues, but that last point does seem to be changing. on sunday the nfl will e devote some of the expensive soupuper bowl

ad space to a new public service space. >> half pepperoni and mushroom. >> this is 911. is everything okay there? do you have an emergency or not? >> yes. >> you are unable to talk because -- >> right, right. >> someone in the room with you? just say yes or no. >> yes. >> the tag line of the psa is called "when it is hard to talk it is up to us to listen." and don, with that psa on domestic violence, there is a lot of pressure on the commissioner roger goodell, and in fact, there is a lot of questions about his priorities, and richard sherman this morning was noting that marshawn lynch if he had not gone to talk at media day, he would have been fine fined half a million, and sherman asked, how come the players have to talk every week the if commissioner goodell is not having to talk every week

and so he questioned the double standards, and he is going to be getting a lot of questions friday at his press conference. >> and rachel nichols is back we many, and she is doing triple duty tonight, and so back with us is attorney michael mccann and pete najarian and former nfl player, and member of "fast money" and also author of "team works" by chris valetta. >> well don, there was a story that came out that phil jackson who is in charge of the new york knicks now, but he played for the knicks back on a team with senator bill bradley in the 1970s that he was going around deflating basketballs back then, and telling the reporters, hey,

we don't like the psi in here, and with we have a shorter team and so we want to be able to deflate the basketballs, and getting a little less height and bounce and phil came out in twitter and he said, yes, they were deflating the basketballs, but only the low end of the limit, and apparently nobody is safe don. >> you can't make this stuff up. pete is this exactly what the nfl, a and this is a a delay of game, right? because the people are talking about other things right? >> yeah. no doubt bt it.. >> because of the investigation with aaron henrnandez and this is exactly what the nfl wants? >> a little bit of the distraction, and then suddenly people are in the mode of hey, did they really do it, and cheating for a long period of time, and what is up with the patriots and we know about the spygate, and the deflategate people want to call it and it is draw inging attention. if you look at the social media, and it is a home run super bowl. and last year record numbers, and this year bigger. >> why is that? >> because it is going to be drawing in that many more

people and think of the people who are not following football and they are followers of the new england patriots and the bad guys and the cheaters and they want to watch the cheaters going down. >> and the viewership is up. and the game is more popular today than ever before and what is interesting is that this gap of the viewership and the viewership is focused on the football is a fantasy thing now, and the reality of the game is centered on the topics of murder domestic violence child abuse, and the likes. so the nfl has to close that gap, and not broaden it but the domestic violence campaign they are putting on at the super bowl is a great first step. >> we will get to that and play the entire psa, and then get your reaction to it. chris, you not a richard sherman fan, but this is what he wrote about "sports illustrated" about marshawn lynch be before the media day yesterday. he said, under goodell, the league puts players like marshawn lynch in a position to be mocked with by the media

which is a can kick of seeing people struggle on camera and the teammates were angry, because we know that certain people do well and with we know that they struggle with mar shawn's talking to the press, and that is the equivalent of putting a e reporter on the football field and telling him to tackle yrp. and you say it is a prima donna attitude and do you believe that sherman has the point here? >> well, he is exceptionally talented player, and the talent is eclipsed p by his well developed tongue in front of the media, and this is the deal it sounds like he wants to be the commissioner of the nfl which is fine if he wants to with be that route, but he is focusing on topics out of his control, and ludicrous, and every single nfl player signs a contract. they have to appear be before the media, flat out. if if you are uncomfortable, then the nfl should put systems and processes in place to help

you and train you so that you are more well developed, and marshawn lynch made a fool out of himself, and sitit is a total embarrassment and not only to himself, but to the team and the nfl. and the nfl needs to drop the hammer on him, and i hope they do, because the skills of presenting yourself well, and communication, and those qualities are highly transferable to the rest of your life and there is going to be 50 more marshawn lynchs in the nfl. >> and do you think that the nfl really cares, and if he can handle the football and score and tackle him. >> and that is why he was hired, to represent the league and he is an employee of the nfl. >> well, the nfl has been accused of turning a blind eye of domestic violence, so they are going to show a powerful psa and this is a portion of it. >> 911 operator. 911, where's the emergency. >> 127 brenner. >> okay.

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is dealing with scandals on all sides and back with me is rachel nichols and pete najarian and chris valetta and attorney michael mccann. this is the entire minute but 30 seconds will play on the super bowl, and i want to get your opinion on this. let's watch. [ phone ringing ] >> 911, operator, 9 111. where's the emergency? >> brenner. >> ma'am you have reached 911. this is an emergency line. >> half pepperoni and half mushroom. >> and this is an e emergency line. >> do you know how long it will be. >> ma'am, is everything okay over there? >> no. >> and you are unable to talk? >> right. >> and is someone in the room with you? just say yes or no. >> yes.

>> okay. it looks like i have an officer about a mile from your location. are there any weapons in the house? >> no. >> can you stay on the phone with me? >> no. thank you. >> pretty powerful, and 30 seconds of that will play in the super bowl, and we know about ray rice suspended for two games, and suspended indefinitely only to have that overturned by appeal, and it is chilling, but does the nfl do a good job in handling these cases? >> well, i think that i would say that the psa is the right exactly the right message for the nfl, and it is powerful and chilling but in terms of how the nfl has handled the domestic vie violence, are there are many grounds to critique the league. the ray rice scandal did not reflect well on the league. they misunderstood the evidence or lied about the evidence and it is time for the nfl to think seriously and hard about how it

wants to handle e domestic violence and they can't have another year like this next year. >> and pete the nfl, and does it spend so many time for fining players for wearing of unapproved company logo and not enough time on the troubles surrounding trouble with the players? >> that is the history a the n leniency is something that is not strong when it come toss to the nfl. they did not go after folks when they needed to. and this is very powerful to try to raise the awareness of what is going on throughout the rest of the league and they have to pun punish and act and make these moves, and they cannot let the integrity of the league dragged down. >> and you think it is the beginning, pete of something that is going to be of the larger campaign to deal with the issues? >> absolutely. i think that roger goodell is taking the steps that he needed to have taken long before this. and it took the video. once everybody saw the individualvideo,

the outrage escalated and with that suddenly a committee, and now all kinds of interactions going on and roger goodell and the education, and the money thrown at this, and this is something they are addressing now. >> and rachel i wa want tont to ask you this because people are say ging, i want to be watching the game and be sberentertained, and is this too heady a subject or fans are saying about time? >> well, it is not too heavy of a subject, but the fan ss are saying no matter what happens within the league, they love football. 28 of the top 30 shows on tv this past fall were nfl games. you walk around here in phoenix, and you have been hearing the music around here, and the party here and the money is pour inging n and the advertising revenue, and the ticket sales, and walking around the buildings here and slong that happen, that is the nfl's bottom line and that is what they will care about the most. >> and will there is something that we want to skask the sports reporter, is roger goodell the

right guy to lead the league? >> i think a that he has done a good job in terms of the business aspects of the league but in terms of the legal aspects, look he has not done a good job, the ray rice matter and adrian peterson and greg hardy, and look the commissioner needs to be not only a lawyer, but somebody with a law background. >> yes or no, the right guy to lead the league? >> well look, it is not an nfl issue. >> yes, he the right guy. >> okay. thank youk, guys. appreciate it. we will be right back.

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