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n camerota and michaela pereira. good morning, welcome to your "new day," it is thursday january 29th 6:00 in the east almost. there's a new recording, audio, it is purportedly from japanese hostage kenji goto and it says the jordanian government has until sunset today, three and a half hours from now, to bring a convicted female terrorist to the turkish border if not, the terrorists say they will kill the other hostage, a jordanian pilot being held hostage since last month. it's hard to know if there's been any progress. but the clock is ticking, will the jordanians comply with the terror group's demands in the next three and a half hours? let's begin our coverage with cnn's will ripley live in tokyo, what's the latest? >> we know with the deadline fast approaching, if this latest isis propaganda video is legit and the japanese government is telling us they don't have any reason to doubt it then there's
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perhaps a very dramatic scene that could be unfolding away from all of the cameras along the border. on one side isis ready to hand over the japanese journalist, kenji goto and on the other side the iraqi prisoner that jordan has been holding for over a decade. didn't want to hand her over until there was guarantee that their captured pilot will be allowed to live. but isis says the pilot will be killed if the deal doesn't happen within the coming hours. isis is very unpredictable, they're known for breaking the rules, lying, so we don't know what's going to happen. we know and the feeling here in japan is if this prisoner exchange is going to happen and one or both of these men is going to get out alive it could very likely be now is the time or in coming hours we're going to watch closely. >> we know you will keep us posted on all breaking news. let's bring in daveed
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gartenstein-ross and harris rafiq, the head of the quill yam foundation. harris i want to start with you, what do you think of the jordanians' plan to try to negotiate with isis and get the hostages freed? >> i think there's a lot of pressure from within the tribes within jordan to actually try and get their fellow member tribal member released. so i think i can understand wi a lot of pressure has been put on them. why jordan feels they need to do something. i think in a way jordan really has allowed isil to win this particular propaganda war. the very fact that jordan are negotiating for the release of their prisoners by giving in to some demands, shows that there's some legitimacy in isil's demands and legitimacy in isil as an islamic state almost. and also tells the world that it's okay for them to kidnap hostages because certain countries will negotiate with
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them. i think it's a sad day that jordan as a country and japan are negotiating with a terrorist entity. >> daveed we've heard this sentiment before if you negotiate with isis it elevates them and their position. what choice does jordan have? >> what i would say about jordan's choice is note that isis hasn't said they will release the pilot. that's what jordan said they wanted in exchange for letting the convicted terrorist go. but isis has simply said they would free kenji goto. they said that the pilot would be killed. but they never promised to release him. so there's not an agreement. in terms of negotiation and whether negotiation is a problem, it is and even more problematic is the fact you have a patchwork of some countries that negotiate with terrorist organizations who kill hostages
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and some countries who don't. a principled stance would be if no governments did so you wouldn't have the tens of millions flowing to terrorist organizations. some do some don't and the countries that don't negotiate are the ones whose sits sevens disproportionately get killed and the ones who do negotiate make the organizations stronger. >> haras, you're making it sound like isis are rational actors. they kidnap people because they're cold-blooded opportunists. when they see someone they can kidnap they kidnap that person. they don't think about the foreign policy. they kidnapped three u.s. citizens and killed them. even though we don't negotiate with terrorists. so i mean it seems as though we're giving them too much credit for their thinking process. haras? >> i think you're absolutely right in that they will kidnap people irrespective of who they are and then what they will do
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is utilize that particular captive to get the maximum pr propaganda or in some cases money or demands met. i think we have to be careful we don't give them more credit. you're right. however, we are in a situation that by negotiating with them as daveed said we're gig they are more credibility and unless the all the coalition decides to stick together and take a collective stance we're always going to see isil coming up on the media. coming up through the internet and getting inches in media print and air time on like today. but the other thing, one of the things we don't actually also know is that we don't actually even know if the jordanian prisoner is actually alive. there have been some twitter prominent i.s. supporters of the last few days that have been saying he's been killed already. so i think there's a lot of
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confusion and pr that isil are getting from the incident. >> you've raised a great point about whether or not we should be covering this in the media. it's hard not to cover when someone's life is at stake. daveed what is the answer? >> i think the media coverage of isis does help isis by and large. and obviously covering something like this it's hard not to do and it's very much newsworthy. but isis is a lot weaker than a lot of media reports let on. a good example is in libya. there are multiple reports, the bbc reported this that isis had taken over the city of durna, which is completely untrue they were able to sucker a number of stations, a number of major outlets into reporting this. because they were able to tweet out video of a parade of isis supporters as well as a flag on a government building that depart actually prove it took
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over the city. it's been clear that they did not. often we buy into their propaganda. one thing that helps them is the perception that they're winning and they've done a good job of getting media to report. what would be helpful for media is to context turallize their loses. that would help to deflate their momentum which they rely on. >> daveed haras, we are having these conversations, it's great to talk to you, thank you so much. chaos erupting inside st. louis city hall last night. the melee breaking out during a packed meeting about a civilian review board to monitor police. things turned ugly. sara sidner joins us with the latest developments on the meeting. >> if there's ever any indication of just how high tensions remain in the st. louis area between police and some members of the public nearly six months now since the police shooting death of michael brown. what happened at city hall overnight gives awe good look.
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>> first of all, you do not tell me my function. >> chaos unfolding last night between citizens and police at a public meeting in st. louis, missouri. the meeting, over a bill intended to improve relations between the community and police. yet the meeting achieved anything but. one city police officer at the podium expressing his disapproval for the new bill to establish a civilian oversight board over police work. seconds later, the room erupts into shouts profanity and a shoving match. protesters blame police union business manager jeff rorda who openly displayed an "i am darren wilson" wristband igniting tensions and he and a woman ended up in a confrontation. it's unclear from the video who started it. >> i tried to exit she continued to do that. two or three other anti-police
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radicals rushed over and things deescalated or escalated from there. >> you didn't push a woman, though? >> no. >> cachet curry says she is no radical, but a citizen and roorda shoved her. >> i guess jeff kennedy and roorda were having words, and he jumped into the aisle and tried to get to kennedy and pushed me. >> we saw once again tonight how fractured our city remains, we have a lot of work to do. just like uptown the lant confrontation following the murder of michael brown and the acquittal of darren wilson. if the citizens and protesters can't have a conversation about something like a bill what can be achieved in the future? michaela? >> we'll put those questions to
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jeff roorda we'll speak with him live on "new day," he's mart of the st. louis police officers union. we'll get his take and where st. louis and ferguson go from here. there's breaking news this morning in the hunt for missing malaysian airlines flight 370. haven't forgot than one, have you? >> malaysian officials have declared the loss of the plane an accident and say all all 239 passengers and crew on board are presumed dead. we're not sure why the airlines are saying this now. there's still no evidence into what caused the crash. but officials do say the search will continue. new this morning, president obama taking on republicans over those forced spending cuts otherwise known as sequestration. the president planning to announce that his budget will reverse those cuts and instead focus on making middle class paychecks go further and beefing up defense funding. the pentagon warns the cuts
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threat the nation's military preparedness. measles cases grown to 79. a high school in palm springs now is telling nearly 70 nonvaccinated kids to stay home. because they're worried that another student may have contracted the virus and could cause it to spread among those kids not vaccinated. in arizona officials are monitoring 1,000 people who may have been exposed to the measles outbreak. crazy do think it was essentially eliminated. >> why was it eliminated? because of the vaccine. i vaccinate my kids do you vaccinate your kids? >> i do. but i believe it is a complicated discussion because there are occasional vaccine injuries that happen which give parents pause and it should give parents pause. occasional. but those to give parents pause, they want to be as educated as possible. and sometimes even kids who are vaccinated come down with the sickness measles or something else. so you need booster shots.
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it's more complicated than we realize. >> it may be complicated. but the analysis of whether or not the vaccines improve your chances of healthfulness are not complicated. you can't get science to align with the idea of maybe you don't need vaccines. >> vaccines have changed our world. vaccines in general are a good thing. i understand why parents don't just want to take it they want to be more educated. they want a little bit more information about all that. >> it's important to get factual information and be well educated. because there's a lot of false information. >> we'd love to get your thoughts on that. vaccinate your kids. discuss. so the blizzard has passed. but the situation is far from over. there's still three feet of snow on the ground in some places you got thousands without power there are big challenges to getting back to normal. if there weren't enough trouble already, more is coming.
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not one, but two storms on the way. cnn meteorologist jennifer gray has more. >> this morning, millions of new england residents buried by an historic blizzard -- >> this is this is brutal. >> picked up a shovel. >> this blizzard is one of the largest we've ever seen. that's going to take some time to remove that snow. >> from long island to maine, residents up to their waist, some up to their neck in snow. some parts of massachusetts receiving a record-breaking three feet of snowfall. in marshfield south of boston residents returned to their coastline homes destroyed during the violent winds and high tide. >> it's surreal. i can't believe, we had christmas in here. >> a 50-foot section of the sea wall washed away. officials fear it could happen again. >> the storm came in you know very powerful one. the next one could be even stronger. we've got to figure out what the
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right solution is. >> the disaster clean-up effort continues to band the community together. in new hampshire firefighters and cub scouts go door to door. >> i tried to shovel but i have a walker. >> clearing driveways for the elderly. >> please we're just helping the community and the elders. since they couldn't shovel their driveways. >> and in boston where snow surpassed two feet -- >> there was still snow in the streets. you couldn't see the lines in the road. >> one local bartender trekked several blocks during the snowstorm to clear the permanent finish line for the annual boston finish line. a symbolic act proving bostonians once again will persevere. >> i didn't think it deserved to be covered under you know all the snow. >> that is symbolic -- boston strong. >> that's boston strong in action. >> they're tough people all over new england. ways impressed by their resilience. >> boston has a lot happen to
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it. not the even a million people there in boston but they come together they're like ten times that strength. one of our top stories, israel sending a warning to hezbollah after an attack by a militant group left two israeli soldiers dead. could it lead to full-scale war? did you know there have been more than 50 online threats against flights since mid january? planes diverted, passengers evacuated? we'll tell you what's going on. ♪ turn around ♪ ♪ every now and then i get a little bit hungry ♪ ♪ and there's nothing good around ♪ ♪ turn around, barry ♪ ♪ i finally found the right snack ♪ [ female announcer ] fiber one. i have moderate to severe crohn's disease. it's tough, but i've managed. but managing my symptoms was all i was doing. so when i finally told my doctor
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israel issuing a stern warning to hezbollah, vowing militants will quote pay the full price for an attack that left two israeli soldiers dead. the latest round of fighting raising fears to an escalation of another war. let's get to cnn's atika shubert live on the israel/lebanon border. >> it's the worst tick of
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violence we've said since 2006. it's more than 24 hours after the incident and all is quiet. we can still hear the whine of drones in the sky keeping a watch over the border. so far, it has not escalated. remember that in many people believe that this was in retaliation for an israeli strike on hezbollah target a few weeks ago. killing six peek including an iranian general and the son of the hezbollah commander. in response it seems that hezbollah carried out this rocket attack on an israeli military vehicle, killing two israeli soldiers, it happened just a few kilometers from here in a disputed area between lebanon and israel. the fact that it was in that area may indicate that hezbollah did not want to expand this further into the golan heights area. and so as a result now, the feeling is things seem to be coming down. in fact israel's defense minister said they're getting indications from the u.n.
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peace-keepers that hezbollah does not want to escalate this any further. all right. atika thank you very much. let's bring in the spokesman for the israeli defense forces, colonel peter lerner what can you tell us about the latest in the situation on the border and what israel has done in response to these attacks so far? >> well good morning, i can say happily that this morning seems to be maintaining a sense of calm i would say, it's tense, but calm never the less we are currently maintaining defensive positions along the border. we have enough forces to do so. i think the key about everything that's happened over the last 24 hours and indeed this attack against our troops and on the civilian unmarked vehicles on a civilian road where people travel freely they could have actually hit anybody traveling that road but unfortunately they only hit or fortunately they only hit military vehicles
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and we've just completed one funeral and we have a second funeral today. so looking forward, i would perhaps point out our need to be responsible, rational and level-headed. in order to maintain. and i would say prolong this situation. >> colonel, let's take a quick look forward and a look back. looking forward, is it true that israeli has heard from hezbollah and the message is that they do not wish for any more escalation? >> well we have open channels with unifil and we've been discussing with them throughout the last 24 hours the circumstances and developments. we have worked together with them and we are working together with them to maintain and restore security and stability in the region. we did not want yesterday's attack to happen. but we need to be prepared for any potential development that could happily happen yeah.
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>> there is some promise that there won't be further escalation based on that communication, that's good news. looking back as to why this happened and what the provocations are on both sides, let's listen to what prime minister benjamin netenyahu said about his willingness to retaliate for the bombing and how he context hamas suffered the most serious blow sips it was founded this past summer and the idf is prepared to act on every front. that's obviously referring to july of last year. israel bombed the gaza strip after the abduction of three teens in the west bank. we all remember that. it does seem like an aggressive provocative statement that we're going to come after you for what you did. does that help not to escalate? why is that the necessary response? >> well here's the reality that is developing over recent years,
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if you look over the last year what's happened in syria with isis and al qaeda-affiliated organizations on our border looking towards us. and just two days ago we had two rockets that were launched from the syrian golan heights, at our skiing resort. where we had to evacuate 1,000 people. so the reality of instability on our border which is a constant threat against the people of israel is of key concern to us. and that is why we need to be prepared. we need to be able to act. i heard yesterday the state department spokesperson jen psaki acknowledge israel's right to self-defense and that is indeed what we are doing here. you have to prevent these people like isis like al qaeda, hezbollah backed by iran from establishing another front with us on the syrian golan heights. >> but jen psaki wound up opening her own can of worms
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about the hypocrisy of the united states negotiating with terrorists. that's a story for a different segment of the show. how it relates here is that hezbollah says last week israel launched an attack against a convoy. killed an iranian revolutionary guard leader six hess hezzbollah leaders, they did what they did in retaliation for what you did. is the situation in israel precipitated by its attack in. >> here's what we know hezbollah, a terrorist organization armed to the teeth by its iranian patron with hundreds of thousands of rockets all for one purpose -- to attack israel. they are intending and try together under the guidance and instruction of this iranian patron to position themselves in another front against israel on our concern. we need to be able to safeguard the people of israel. it's our right, it's our responsibility and the idf is
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charged with that task. the reality that has developed since then and everything we've been doing since then is to contain the violence. we need to maintain our defensive capabilities in order to prevent a negative further escalation. >> colonel lerner thank you very much for the latest. michaela over to you. let's get context with peter beinart. he's here to explain the disputed golan heights territories he's a senior fellow at the new america foundation. this area here is a disputed area. very little agreement on the borders at all. >> right. the golan heights was taken by israel in the 1967 war. israel controls it. but syria claims that it's still rightfully theirs and the international community has not accepted israel's control of it. >> bordered by so many nations
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an a key location. go it's very high ground. whoever controls it has an advantage over the people below. that's why israel has been reluctant to relinquish it. >> the soldiers killed here near lebanon, is sheba farms. >> israel also control it is. what makes this area different is it's claimed by both lebanon and syria. this is a three-way dispute about who controls this territory. >> with all of the dispute and for years, this is not a new situation about the borders being disputed. why now this conflict? why now is this heating up? >> i think because a couple of weeks ago israel took a shot at a hezbollah convoy that it claims was planning a terrorist attack. israel tends to take the preempt preemptive actions against what they think are terrorist attacks that are coming. they ended up killing some fairly high-ranking people including the son of the former hezbollah military leader. at that point it became pretty inevitable that hezbollah would respond. they did respond. the fact that they responded
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against an israeli military convoy and not civilians has led some to believe that hezbollah doesn't want this to turn in a full-scale war. >> what is the chance you think this is going to be settling in for a long-term fight or no. >> the israel defense minister said they had gotten an indirect communication from hezbollah, that hezbollah does not want an econgratulation. right now it seems there's a chance of averting this. >> we'll watch it with you peter beinart. thank you so much. so when we come back after the break. you have more than 50 threats online against commercial aircraft in less than two weeks. passengers have been forced to evacuate. the airlines are taking them very seriously. the question is why? what's behind the trend? and the aaron hernandez trial gets under way this morning. three days before his former team plays in the super bowl. so forget deflategate, will patriots coach bill belichick and team owner bob kraft be
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the fbi launching an investigation into a spike in online threats made against airlines authorities say there have been more than 50 threats made since mid january. aviation correspondent renney marsh is tracking latest developments. planes diverted passengers evacuated. law enforcement and bomb-sniffing dogs close in. all because of fake bomb threats on social media. >> we didn't know until we landed. >> it's happening more and more. a u.s. official tells cnn online threats increased after a bomb scare on a flight from atlanta to raleigh, january 17th.
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50 similar incidents followed. in new york this flight swept for explosives. military jets scrambled after a tweet said bombs were on board two planes bound for atlanta. ryan bennett was on board. >> they did have canine units on the tarmac as well as a number of police from different agencies i saw the atlanta police department tsa, and some fbi agents out on the runway and we were asked to place our items on the ground and have the canine units go through them and check those first. >> and a tweet claiming to be from the terrorist group isis targeted a flight from san diego to dallas. >> i want to see those who are responsible for that kind of activity tracked down and prosecuted. >> the head of homeland security jeh johnson told cnn today, even false threats are dangerous to public safety. >> they cause certain reaction certain overreactions. very often fighter jets are
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scrambled. to address the situation. >> the fbi is investigating the social media threats. tracing computer i.p. addresses. >> it could be a small group of people or just one person with a few twitter accounts and a really dumb idea. no devices have been found. we can see how much it disrupts the system. >> these threats tax law enforcement. airport and military resources, it's also costly for airlines and passengers. >> every time a threat comes in it has to be taken seriously. aircraft have to be turned around or landed at the nearest location. thousands of dollars are lost every minute that plane is unexpectedly delayed. >> rene marsh, cnn, washington. meanwhile isis has set a deadline of sunset in mosul for jordan to release a female terrorist or jordanian pilot captured last month will be killed. sunset in iraq is about three hours' time from now. the message purportedly came
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former new england patriots star aaron hernandez going on trial for murder this morning. jurors will be sworn in and
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opening statements will begin. with super bowl just three days away guess whose names appear on the prosecution witness list? let's bring in susan candiotti, live from fall river, massachusetts, susan? >> hi michaela. that's right. as you can imagine in the next few days the owner of the patriots bob kraft and coach bill belichick are certainly concentrating on developing a winning strategy for the super bowl on sunday. but as soon as that event is over michaela they may very well be preparing for a very another very important role -- and that is possibly testifying for the prosecution in the aaron hernandez murder trial. for aaron hernandez, the opposing team takes the field first, with prosecutors attempting to prove he is a killer beyond a reasonable doubt. alleging he orchestrated the execution-style murder of oden lloyd.
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if his former boyses team owner bill kraft and coach bill belichick take the stand, they're expected to testify about their conversations with their one-time superstar. days after the bullet-riddled body of semi pro player lloyd is found. a law enforcement source says both kraft and belichick spoke face to face with hernandez, kraft alleging hernandez flat-out denies he had anything to do with loitd's murder. a source says hernandez also tells belichick the same thing. he wasn't there. as the patriots get ready for the super bowl former teammates still trying to make sense of it. >> a lot of people definitely affected by that situation. so they're all in my prayers. >> at first, it seems there's a mountain of circumstantial evidence against the star tight end. who has pleaded not guilty. 18 months later, the case isn't the same. >> the universe of damning
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evidence has shrunk. >> shrunk thanks to a defense team scoring some victories. a text message from lloyd to his sister about who he was with sent minutes before lloyd was killed. lloyd writes nfl, just so you know. a judge ruling its inadmissible. not enough proof lloyd thought he was going to die. yet prosecutors say they have surveillance videos of the victim getting into a car with hernandez and co-defendants earnest wallace and carlos ortiz, who have also pleaded not guilty to murder. video of that same car driving into an industrial park. and later, hernandez back home less than a mile away holding what prosecutors say is the alleged murder weapon. but, it was never found. >> there is no murder weapon. or a witness that's credible would testify that aaron hernandez did it. there is no such witness.
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it just isn't the slam-dunk case it seemed to be. >> and the judge has also ruled out any mention that aaron hernandez is also charged with a double murder in boston for which he has pleaded not guilty. nor, can there be any mention that a former good friend of his, a kind of body guard to him, alexander bradley, is currently suing hernandez for allegedly shooting bradley in the eye just a few months before odom lloyd's murder. >> here's a question for you -- will aaron hernandez' girlfriend shayna jenkins, is she going to be called to testify against him? >> shayana jenkins is his fiancee and the mother of his child. very recently she had an immunity meeting with prosecutors. this is a big deal. because prosecutors believe that she threw away the murder
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weapon. but will she flip on her fiancé? we don't know. because it's all being kept a secret. but defense attorneys want that answer right now. >> susan candiotti in fall river, massachusetts, we'll be watching it with you here at cnn. thank you so much. okay michaela house democrats head to philadelphia for a weekend retreat. will it be kumbayah or knock-down drag-out and how about mitt romney's new image? john avlon and margaret hoover here with their thoughts. the traffic jam. scourge of 20th century city life. raiser of blood pressure. disrupter of supply chains. stealer of bedtime stories. polluter. frustrater. time thief. [cars honking] and one day soon we'll see the last
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is mitt romney reinventing himself before our very eyes? he was in mississippi last night, so let's break down what he did and said there, joining us to discuss is cnn political analyst and editor in chief of the "daily beast," john avlon and republican consultant and sirius xm host margaret hoover. so either mitt romney is sort of coming up with a new image or just revealing the inner romney that we didn't get to know very well. he was in mississippi for a speech yesterday. and he went to a ribs joint, a barbeque joint. >> strong. >> and he ordered a pulled pork
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sandwich and let me show you a little moment of his interaction with the folks there. >> you're very kind. i wish i were there right now. >> is this the new romney now? >> i didn't know i had a choice. >> in case said i sure wish were you in the white house now and he said so do i and the a reporter said is this the new romney and he said i didn't know i had a choice. >> i got to say, think it is the way forward for mitt romney. one of the things that documentary "mitt" revealed is when you're so tightly controlled you don't let people in. he is a decent family man and an interesting guy with a pretty good sense of humor. the tight restriction on his image really hurt him. it made him seem stiff and
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shallow. it's difficult to rebrand yourself as more authentic, let alone a defender of the middle class, but it is a smart move. >> it is that his inability to project what he is or kept changing what he is does this play into that margaret that now he is a barbeque-loving pop lift lis? >> romney 2.0 refused to go back on romney-care. he wasn't a flip-flopper. but the fundamental problem for mitt romney is first of all, no republican only richard nixen in the 20th century has gotten the republican nomination twice, and he had a very big amount of time in between the first time he lost the presidency and the second time. the republican field and i think the republican electorate they had a really hard time getting behind mitt romney last time at all. it was a strain to read the editorial page of the "wall street journal" endorse romney. i don't think that mitt romney is running for redemption is
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going to get enough conservatives riled up or excited. but i like this mitt romney. and frankly, this mitt romney is really good for the conversation the republican primary. because we should be talking about inequality and we should find a way to address the stagnant social mobility. >> and maybe this is the real mitt romney. maybe he is finally untethered. but let's talk about the substance. i'm going to take your side as a segue. let's talk about the substance of in which he said he gave a speech in which he went after president obama and hillary clinton. he said secretary of state hillary clinton cooley pressed the reset button for russia. what do you see, here's another thing he said he said pressed reset button for russia which smiled and then invaded ukraine, a sovereign nation.
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>> saying russia was the primary political threat to the u.s. he seems vindicated. that isn't surprising. but he is certainly talking like a candidate. trying to play his strongest hand. what's interesting is him adopting paul ryan's post election message is how do the republicans help the middle class, particularly the poor. that's a real stretch for mr. 47%. maybe he's the best messenger, we all know he ain't. maybe he can press the reset button. >> you're rich. don't tell me you care about people who aren't rich. what is going on with that? is it something that has to be addressed in terms of attacking the premise or stlis it a new political reality. >> hillary clinton is running up against this too, she's going to run up against it in the democratic primary populists, mitt romney's challenge was in
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cnn exit polls the majority of people said who cares more about somebody like me? and everybody else beat mitt romney over on that statistic. so the issue isn't that he's rich it's that he hasn't convinced people that he's not apathetic about fixing. >> is class entering american politics? historically american politics have been obsessed with race not class. but with income inequality the gap between wall street and main street you're starting to see class debates, class accusations enter american politics particularly within the democratic divide. it is a political issue. >> the dem civil war, they're having a closed-door retreat. this come to jesus moment where they're going to be i guess figuring out what they did in wrong in the mid-terms, what lessons are they gleaning? >> how they try to navigate the deep divides in the democratic party and growing between sort of an urban base that is
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increasingly progressive and populist and there's a deep divide the democratic party has got the beginnings of a tea party movement of its own. you're seeing in this particular retreat, the cbc, the congressional black caucus pushing back on nancy pelosi they're angry about that it's one sign of the divide. >> the advantage for your team even though the democrats are like herding cats they still unanimously re-elected nancy pelosi as the minority leader. what does that tell you? it tells you they don't know who they are. do you think the democrats make the case for why they can't win back the middle clas? your party has taken that they're the advocates of the middle class, they've taken the american flag as a symbol. why can't the democrats win it back? >> look that's what that is the question of the 2016 election. will it ultimately the candidate that will prevail is the candidate that can convince the
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middle class that they can represent them. i don't know that the democrats or the republicans can't do it this is where there will be a debate about fixing wage stagnation. they're calling it inequality. republicans, will we win this messaging war about is it really inequality and income stagnation? or is this about social mobility and being able to pick yourself up and go from being middle class to becoming the american dream? is the american dream dead or not? which party has policy solutions that can address that. >> this is the heart of the '16 debate. jeb bush talking about opportunityth and opportunist society. mitt romney as well hillary clinton talking about the middle class. bill clinton's old formulation. that is the jump ball. the democrats have more credibility on the middle class than necessarily the republicans do. >> why? go because historically they've looked out for the little guy. >> that's not true in the 1980s, rornd reagan was the guy from the middle class. at this moment it's only because of the mitt romney in the 2012
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election. >> john marg let, we leave it there. this is one story, we're following a lot of news this morning, ha do you say, let's get to it. the clock is ticking, will the jordanians comply with the terror group's demands? >> i'm not sure that jordan can go ahead without an assurance they're going to get their pilot back. >> we will never give up. >> they're holding the world hostage. this one is pretty brutal. >> it was a mess up to my hips. >> the water was moving so fast we had waves in the back yard. >> these four windows all came out. there have been more than 50 online threats against flights since mid january. >> we take these threats very seriously. >> i want to see those who are responsible for those, that kind of activity tracked down and prosecuted. . >> announcer: this is "new day," with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota and michaela pereira. >> good morning, everyone welcome back to new day, a life-and-death decision. isis demanding that a female
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terrorist be released by sunset in mosul or they will kill a jordanian pilot they're hosting hostage. that message delivered by another hostage, kenji goto from japan. >> from the outside this presents like an negotiation. but remember we're talking about terrorists here. will both hostages be freed in the prisoner swap or just one? the obvious risk in dealing with demands, is you may give legitimacy to this tactic. it's a tough spot for japan. our coverage begins with will ripley live in tokyo. will? >> chris, we continue to get new information about this prisoner swap. if it does happen within the next two and a half hours, which would be sunset the apparent isis deadline it would be on the border between syria and southern turkey. that's where the japanese journalist kenji goto was headed in october when he was believed to have been captured by isis or captured by a militant group and turned over
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to them. what would happen? the showdown that's the stage that would be unfolding here is sajida al-rishawi the jordanian prisoner she's an iraqi woman, she's been in custody in jordan for a decade. she would be exchanged according to the latest isis message, for kenji goto the japanese journalist who we have seen appear in several different propaganda videos where he's been forced to read statements doing everything from shaming his government to threatening his life. now the life of this pilot, moaz al-kassasbeh the jordanian pilot who is threatened to be killed if the exchange doesn't happen in the coming hours. as you rightly point out, isis is unpredictable. they've set many deadlines, broken many deadlines, we've seen these things come and go with nothing happen or in the case over the weekend. the beheading of another japanese citizen, haruna yukawa. in tokyo, many feel this could be the time if there's going to be a deal it could happen very soon. we'll be watching chris. >> it's also teeing up a very
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obvious damned if they do damned if they don't situation. will we'll check back in a little bit. two big stories breaking overseas what's going on with isis and what's going on with the arab/israeli peace. we have a former adviser to arab/israeli peace negotiations aaron david miller currently the vice president of the woodrow wilson international center. aaron thank you for helping us out this morning. let's deal with the hostage situation, all right? the obvious dilemma is if you talk to these guys about what they've done and you negotiate, you empower both their tactic and their existence. but what is the better solution? >> well it's all true i mean there's no question that you're going to incentivize. the reality is the americans and israelis know this. during the '80s, the reagan administration negotiated partially unsuccessfully partially successfully for the return of the american hostages. engaging in asymmetrical trades literally hundreds the last
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exchange was well over 1,000, to redeem a gilad shalit a soldier that hamas had captured. this is a long war. and there's no way it's going to come to an end. there are battles, you got to pick your fight. if there are literally exchange where you can benefit and profit even on a moral, humanitarian or in a sense that the jordanians are dealing with, terrible pliltolitical problem. rising opposition. they want this guy back he's the member of a prominent jordanian family and tribe. critical to the support of the king. so the realities, people do negotiate. if in fact it's in their self-interest. we did it with bowe bergdahl despite the administration's efforts to deny these are similar exchange. >> it sets up a perceived hypocrisy that has the u.s. in trouble, not just against those who would be its enemy, but also
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those who were its allies it seems to be double-speak. to you draw conclusions from the fact that the terrorist group has changed its perspective? usually it just you know wantonly kills people and puts out videos about it. this time they keep changing demands and timelines. does that mean anything useful? >> i think we're being played frankly like a finely tuned violin. think about, this is a no-lose situation for isis. number one, they're negotiating in as high a profile a global format as possible it's theater. secondly they're transaking with the government of jordan. the government of japan. you've got three missed deadlines, no proof of life. terrible confusion over what the nature of the deal will possibly be. and all along, isis uses this as a tool of propaganda and recruitment. it really is a no-lose situation
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for them. and tragically so for us. >> so now let's switch to the other situation we have to monitor over there. i had on a spokesman for the idf, lieutenant colonel lerner. i said to him hey, hezbollah says you hit them last week and you killed a revolutionary guard officer and that's why they did that. as you might expect that question didn't get a response. all did he was define how hezbollah is a horrible terrorist organization. all which they believe to be true. does that question matter and does it deserve an answer? >> it does matter. but this is what one, one scene if a very long and terrible movie between israel and hezbollah. both are seeking to establish a measure of deterrence. and hezbollah clearly as a resistance organization is looking for new opportunities to strike the israelis in order to legitimize their own role. and one of those new opportunities is the unsettled,
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ungoverned territory that now exists on the syrian side of the border close to the golan heights. i suspect that the israelis struck january 18th killing a highen level iranian, maybe two, revolutionary guard commanders and high-level hezbollah commanders in part to deny hezbollah, to send them a message that they would not allow a new front to be opened a new normal so to speak to be created. and as a consequence, predictably, absolutely no surprise hezbollah responded yesterday, the question is can we keep this from escalating? >> right there's a lots of confidence given to that position because we expect that hezbollah reached out to israel and said we don't want any more of this for now. which is one of the unusual dynamics in that situation. that does hold promise. another take-away from that is do you see iran as playing putin in situations recently? they're helping shore up the iraqi fighting off the sunnis there on the sharia side.
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then on -- on the shiite side. now they're helping hezbollah. are they playing the putin game of going around and seeding dissent in places that further their own cause. >> whether it's seeding dissent or maximizing their influence, the reality is they're expanding their influence with hezbollah, even with hamas, renewing that relationship. negotiating with the americans to see if they can get sanctions removed for a punitive deal on the nuclear weapons issue. and supporting bashar al assad. so the reality is as the arab world melts down you have three significant nonarab countries that are emerging to play a more preeminent role. one is israel. one is turkey. and one is iran. and this file is hardly closed. the iranians are going to continue to be probably one of the most preeminent powers in the region. and we can expect more of this. >> aaron david miller thank you as always for helping us understand what is certainly a
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complex situation. we'll call on you again, my friend thank you. it's always good after talking to aaron, mick you always feel a little bit smarter. >> i feel that way, absolutely. back stateside, tensions flaring inside st. louis city hall. violence erupting during a debate over creating civilian oversight boards to monitor police sara sidner joins us with more. it's so interesting to see all of this happen when they were trying to find solutions. >> >>. >> that goes to the question how account community move forward if they can't even talk? i want to give you some idea of what the tensions are in and around st. louis, nearly six months since the shooting death of michael brown. look at what happened at city hall last night. >> [ bleep ] two-way street. the law is a two-way street. >> [ bleep ] [ bleep ], man!
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>> a full-on tussle there between police who most of them there in the beginning of the meeting, were not uniformed. and citizens who had come to this meeting, talking about the possibility of putting in place a civilian review board for police. and all heck broke loose. basically what the protesters claim is that the police union representative whose last name is roorda jeff roorda. got up and he started talking and then he showed protesters his arm band his wrist band. and the wrist band said "i am darren wilson." and as you know darren wilson is the officer responsible for killing unarmed teenager michael brown. but he was never indicted. for doing any wrongdoing. protesters took issue with that. but it didn't really go nuts until there was some sort of scuffle between mr. roorda and one of the citizens at this
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meeting. there's a he said/she said. she said he pushed her. but the bottom line is they're simply trying to talk out whether or not to put this civilian review board in place and they can't even get through this without having this tussle. they had to basically just stop the meeting and they never got much further than that. >> oh my gosh. such still heated feelings about that. sara thanks so much for that update. meanwhile, israeli prime minister benjamin netenyahu issuing a warning to hezbollah. he said the militants will pay full price for a missile attack that killed two israeli soldiers the latest incident prompting fears of an escalation a similar hezbollah strike eight years ago led to a month-long invasion of lebanon that left hundreds dead. encouraging news out of west africa. the number of ebola cases there has hit the lowest level since the epidemic began. for the first time since june there have been fewer than 100
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confirmed cases reported in the three hardest hit nations, guinea liberia and sierra leone. official says they can focus on trying to end the epidemic instead of just slowing it down. >> if you live in a winter wonderland you've probably had your moment where you slip on the ice and take a spill. this cutie takes the cake check out quinn. this is quinn, can't quite seem to get her bearings she's a beautiful burmese mountain dog, tries to get a grip on the slippery surface in new hampshire. fortunately quinn was not hurt her owner posted the slow-mo video on instagram, it became an instant hit. we got stranded in new london couldn't get to our live shot we got a ride with a plow driver. when we arrived, rose ar flores our colleague was there doing live hits we got out of the plow and i was showing om i was like this was how we roll. just as i said that i fell on
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my butt. and god laughed. it was hilarious. luckily i got some padding back there. >> i wish we had some video of that. >> there is none. >> i'm sorry you fell mick i'm glad i didn't have to see that. >> what a liar. >> if i'm not the one knocking you down i don't want you to fall. falling is the least of the concerns that people have, so many are going to have to deal with what already has happened and now there's going to be more. in new england, three feet of snow as you know in some places and the trouble will still be coming. let's get to details from cnn meteorologist jennifer gray still out in the cold. live in boston. what is the next? >> yeah we have more storms on the way. can you imagine, chris, waking up to all of this behind me and being told, you have two more snowstorms right on the way. >> we're sure there's a car. >> this morning, millions of new england residents buried by an historic blizzard.
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>> this is this is brutal. >> picked up a shovel. >> this is one of the largest we've ever seen. it's going to take some time to remove the snow. >> from long island to maine, residents up to their waist, some up to their neck in snow. some parts of massachusetts receiving a record-breaking three feet of snowfall. >> in marshfield south of boston residents returned to their coastline home destroyed during the violent winds and high tide. >> it's surreal. i can't believe this we had christmas in here. >> a 50-foot section of the sea wall washed away. officials fear it could happen again. >> the storm came in you know very powerful one. the next one could be even stronger. so we've got to figure out what the right solution is. >> meanwhile, the disastrous clean-up effort continues to band the community together. >> we're very capable young man, if you need our help. >> in new hampshire, firefighters and cub scouts go door to door. >> i try to shovel but i have a
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walker. >> clearing driveways for the elderly. >> we're just helping the community and the elders. since they couldn't shovel their driveways. >> in boston where snow surpassed two feet. >> there was still snow in the streets, you couldn't see the lines in the road. >> one local bar tepider trekked several blocks during the storm to clear the permanent finish line for the boston marathon. >> it's special to me and the city and i didn't think it deserved to be covered under all that snow. >> yeah they do have two more snowstorms on the way, like we mentioned, of course the timing of this could not be worse, we are looking at a lot of snow still on the ground it's definitely not going do melt before that. let's look at the graphics. i want to time this out. it looks like we're going to see the possibility of a couple of inches of snow sometime late tonight into friday it could linger into saturday morning, though and then we are going to expect windy conditions as well.
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snowfall totals definitely not as impressive as the ones we just saw by any stretch. we're only going to see about an inch or two of snow. worst-case scenario, we could see about four inches that would make it a plowable event. we're hoping for an inch or two. that's most likely what boston is going to see for the next system. cold temperatures temperatures are going to stay around freezing today and tomorrow. they drop dramatically by the time we get to the weekend. temperatures in the teens and 20s for the weekend. there's the system pulling out of the midwest. heading this way. and then we have another system that's going to be here sunday into monday. a lot of uncertainty with that track. some models are taking it offshore. and missing the northeast completely. other models are dumping a couple more inches on boston so still a little bit of time to watch that one, guys. but in the meantime we are looking for more snow before the start of the weekend. and temperatures are going to stay very very cold. guys? >> did you just extend your
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reservations at the hotel you're staying at? 'cuz you're done for a while. let's be honest. >> it's so cold the hat is stuck on her head. >> i'm coming home! >> great job, jennifer the snow will not melt until june. >> the high of 19 our producer told us on monday in new york. 19. >> monday's blizzard left the entire island of nantucket in the dark and without heat. some parts of it under water. how is nantucket doing today? we'll talk to a couple of islanders, one of whom was trapped, next. and the president goes down to fill larks trying to rally the democratic troops get them ready for the next big set of elections coming up. what is the rallying cry? what did the president say and what will the gop have to say about what he said? john king will tell you. financial noise
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gentlemen, thanks so much for joining us. chief, when we talked with you at the height of the storm. your 13,000 residents, virtually all of them were without electricity and heat. how is nantucket doing this morning? >> we're happy to say that virtually everybody has got heat and electricity back. i think we got a couple hundred residents still out. particularly brant point area and some out in other areas. >> are those folks in shelters? >> the shelter closed at midnight last night. the areas impacted right now are mostly unoccupied homes that are mainly summer residents. >> chief, also the highest winds of the storm were clocked in nantucket there were 78-mile-per-hour gusts. those are hurricane strength. what's the damage in nantucket? >> well the most visible damage is the town pier. was totally obliterated. it looks like a bomb went off on it. that was totally obliterated. we've got a lot of tree limbs
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down. we have drifting snow. we still have some areas of the island we haven't been able to get to yet. although for the most part we've made contact with somebody back in those areas so we relatively know things are good back there. >> clinton, when we checked in with you yesterday, you were basically trapped in a hotel room on cape cod. couldn't get home. to nantucket. now you're home you had to take a ferry, we understand. what was your trip back like? and what did you find when you got back home? >> well lots of snow. the trip was great, it was a little bit choppy. but nice to be able to get home. >> you own a restaurant on nantucket. what's the status of your restaurant? >> we should be open for lunch today at 11:30. some minor technical internet issues things like that. and we hope all the food is able to come. >> that's incredible that you've been able to open. we're looking at your pictures
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right now, the pictures that you took during the snow. they're beautiful, but we get the point of just how snow-soaked the island was. how are you going to open the restaurant if there's been no food deliveries? >> we'll do a limited menu. we do have some proteins we can go to the supermarket for whatever is left. but it's going to be pretty limited. >> what's going to be your lunch special today? >> i think my chef partner made chili. >> perfect. >> miso soup. chicken bento box. >> perfect. >> what more could you ask for? i know, clinton, you were saying that the silver lining in you will this and chief, i'm sure you feel the same way, is that the island had to pull together. chief, how is the community doing? >> very resilient. actually we got the school back in operation today. we're running you know everything is on time. things are hoping up. i think it was just another bad
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storm for most people here. >> clinton, you think you're going to have a big lunch crowd today? >> i think so. we're a pretty tough bunch. >> chief, you're going to go? >> i'm going. >> see you at 11:30. >> that's great. well we hope to be able to visit your restaurant at some point, too, hopefully this summer. clinton terry and chief william pittman, thank you so much for joining us on "new day." it does bring a community together doesn't it? >> certainly a tight-knit community like that. and soup for everybody. a spike in online threats targeting u.s. airlines. what's going on? we're going to take a look on how this could impact your air travel. getting ready to vote for sarah palin again? no? that's what her conservative base is saying. why? why have they lost the love? that's what john king will tell you.
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welcome back we're now two hours from a new isis deadline demanding that jordan release an
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imprisoned female terrorist. isis says if she is not freed. they will kill a jordanian pilot captured last month. this threat purportedly came in an audio message from japanese hostage, kenji goto. jordanian officials say they're willing to make a swap for the pilot but they want proof of life before making any deal. >> house democrats hunker down for a big strategy session in philadelphia today. president obama is expected to take on republicans over the forced spending cuts joe johns is live for us from washington. what do we know joe? >> president obama expected to appear at the democratic issues conference in philadelphia today. and expected to call for an end to those automatic across-the-board budget cuts that have been causing so much trouble here in washington, d.c. over the past couple of years. this will be one last opportunity for the president to preview parts of his budget schedule to be released. next week.
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now, the president is also expected to hit republicans for holding up funding for the department of homeland security in a disagreement over immigration. the budget cuts of course are the central thing here. and those budget cuts have been a very big deal as i said in washington, d.c. both democrats and republicans have said they caused huge problems here in washington. nonetheless, it's not clear that the government is going to be able to get any agreement. so what's the reality check? well the fact of the matter is republicans now firmly in control of capital hill and they're the ones who control the purse strings, alisyn? >> joe johns thanks so much. the historic thaw between cuba and the u.s. may be freezing up again. cuban president raul castro is demanding the u.s. give back the base at guantanamo bay, lifting the half-century trade embargo on cuba and compensating his country for damages and removing
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it from a terror list. all of that before the two nations even think about reestablishing ties. that is what is called a nonstarter. and remember this is just a month after president obama began lifting some restrictions against cuba that show of good faith, now not being taken gracefully. this sunday bring your game face bring passion for your team. but at super bowl xlix don't bring your drone. the faa has released this kind of bizarre youtube video deeming the super bowl a no-drone zone. there actually will be a virtually no-fly zone around the university of phoenix stadium. drones have sparked security concerns of late. one crashed on the white house grounds, we've seen incidents where they've been disruptive at airports they're saying no drones at super bowl. go ahead, sound off. >> i have a question what do you do if someone does fly into a zone? how do they get the drone out of
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the air? >> they dispatch the police. >> i don't know. >> a huge net, a huge drone net. >> do they use their own drone -- >> to shoot it down? >> to go after the drone they don't want? >> questions you pose to john king. >> things i won't be able to pay attention to during the game because i'll be drinking. time to get "inside politics" on "new day" with john king. i know you're getting jazzed up for super bowl 'cuz your team is in it. >> i'm excited for the super bowl. we've got to win one, it's been ten years. we're excited because of what joe johns just talked about. the president going up to the democratic meeting in philadelphia. with me to share reporting and insights nia malika henderson of the "washington post" and tamara keith of npr. the president was in the state of the union address, he says let's get along, but lays out some very confrontational policies with the republicans. even though the republicans won the election. today we're told he'll going to this retreat. sit down with the democratic
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lawmakers and the president says believes we should end the era of manufactured crises and mindless austerity and instead build on the bipartisan budget agreement signed in 2013. i want to if he cuss on the manufactured crises. he means government shutdowns or threatened government shutdowns. mindless austerity. republicans would call that responsible spending cuts and deficit control. so what's the president's end game here? the republicans won big in the election they have more votes in congress and he's essentially saying you're wrong. >> the sequester i think that many republicans would also call it mindless. that's the thing, it's this meat axe approach. but the president's proposal for getting rid of it is raising taxes on the rich. heard that before. and the republicans say no no no. so we're kind of back in that same standoff over how do you balance this spending priorities
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and other priorities that republicans have. so it's -- it's kind of back to where we've been all along. >> back to where we've been all along. >> the president knows the math nia. he knows the republicans are going to recoil when they hear whey says to house democrats, they're going to say, mr. president you're ignoring what the american people just told you in november. but the president is not doing this for fun, he's got an end game right? >> he's got an end game. the end game is he's got republicans who came in wanting to prove that they can govern. wanting to prove they can get something done. but he's put them in the exact same spot. which is saying no no no. every interview you've heard so far from bainor or mcconnell the everything the president brings up they say no. the president laying out a vision a political blueprint. it won't have the force of law, none of these things do. it's rhetoric. but it's setting the terms of the debate and now republicans have to come back with some budget where they lay out what
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the republican party stands for. that's the thing, they're still, they're not quite on offense yet. they're still on defense, still saying no no no. >> that's the interesting thing to watch. so many people thought after the election he's a lame duck. he'll be essentially irrelevant the last two years. i want to remind viewers after the state of the union address, he said raise the minimum wage. let's raise taxes on the wealthy. republicans are skeptical about doing that the president hit the road on the one hand still standing by his proposals, trying to strike a balance. on the other hand saying why can't we get along? >> i've got two years left in office i'm not going to stop trying to make our politics work better. that's what you deserve. that's how we move the country forward. >> so that's sort of the kinder gentler, let's be bipartisan president striking that tone with the american people. while at the same time at the moment at the moment -- this is what i'm trying to get at he's trying to get leverage. his proposals are, go away
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republicans, i'm right, you're wrong. even though you just won the election. he stood with the democrats in that speech. we've seen democrats peel away on their rush to pass an iran sanctions bill that the president doesn't want. politico reporting there's a debate in camp clinton whether if she should wait until july to get into the race or get in in the next month or two. how would that factor into the president's calculation. any time he does anything, people are going to say, what does hillary think. is it easier for the president, does it buy him more time if she stays out, not an official candidate long centre. >> i think it makes him a slightly less lame duck for a few more months. he can continue to set the agenda and set the tone and that's exactly what he's doing. he's saying yeah yeah you guys think i'm a lame duck but i'm going to keep laying an agenda here. and then the republicans are going to have to answer well what do you think of that? what do you think of that? because he's just continuing to throw ideas out there.
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refusing to sit back and be lame. >> in the meantime what you've seen is his approval ratings ticking up. if you're in the clinton camp you want to see the approval ratings at 50%, we've got people like john podesta, who are behind the scenes work for hillary clinton at some point. has been orchestrating what the president's approach to politics and policy has been for the last year. so i think hillary clinton, she stays out until july. the president keeps doing this keeps putting republicans in a box. republicans have had a rough go of it. think about what happened with the abortion debate in the house. think about how they caved in with the scalise debate. you had republicans like mcconnell saying we're going to turn the page and it's really obama who has been able to reset his presidency in the last six weeks. >> if he president can keep the approval ratings numbers up. we'll be cutting the deals in
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august and september. so the issue is who has the political leverage in august or september. that's what all of this is about for the president, trying to keep his numbers up to build strength for negotiations. >> to build strength for negotiations and he knows the magic number for republicans is 67. he's got the power of the veto and they've got to get 67 votes to override that. so he's in oddly, a strong position i think they're playing it very smart. we've got to see what republicans do. >> we'll watch the president, keep track of the democratic event. democratic losers in the election but on offense, whether pretend or not, let's go to another topic. mitt romney has said within a couple of weeks eel tell us whether he's going run again, a third time in 2016. he was in mississippi, gave a speech to students and spent some time in a restaurant. one of the rules in politics mitt romney said is that you're not supposed to let the cameras shoot you eating. he decided, is this the new mitt romney? answer the question about whether he's still a politician.
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>> do you still consider yourself a politician? >> mmm. you're taking my picture? what can i say? it's dangerous. >> is this the new romney now? eaten when the cameras are rolling? >> i didn't know i had a choice. >> i didn't know i had a choice about being the new romney. are we seeing a a new romney. is he trying to be more likable, more approachable? >> sure. whether or not it will work is the question. we know you know mitt romney 1.0 from 2008 2012 and here's a different romney now? >> you write a piece this morning, about conservatives breaking up with their girl sarah palin. she was in iowa this past week. she gave a speech that many found kind of hard to follow. here's a piece of it. >> gop leaders by the way, you know the man can only ride ya when your back is bent. so strengthen it. then the man can't ride ya.
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>> it is interesting. she was the vp candidate in 2008 2012 cycle, republicans seem to be joining democrats in saying please please you'll be a problem for us we'll continue to keep an eye on sarah palin. alisyn it is interesting. if she ran, she would be a force in iowa maybe and republicans think after that not so much. it's interesting to see so many conservatives, when liberals criticized her, the conservatives would say don't do it now it's the conservatives criticizing sarah palin saying please go away. >> interesting how the tables have turned. dozens of online threats, more than 50 of them. made against u.s. commercial flights in just the last two weeks. some of them claim to be from isis. so what's being done to make sure you're safe in the sky? we'll talk to our aviation expert about that. arthritis like me and you're talking to your rheumatologist about a biologic... this is humira. this is humira helping to relieve my pain
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good to have you back on "new day." more than 50 threats have been made on twitter against u.s. commercial flights in less than two weeks. how do officials know which ones they need to take seriously? here to discuss, mary sciavo
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cnn aviation analyst and former inspector general for the u.s. department of transportation. and howard schmidt is former cybersecurity czar for the obama administration and a partner in an llc company. mary first of all, walk us through how airlines manage this. they get a threat what happens next? >> well they get a threat, they call the fbi. they alert the fbi. and then the fbi has to work very quickly. because obviously the plane is often in the air when they get them or about to take off and the fbi has to do a quick assessment as to whether this is someone on the internet a prankster or something they have to take seriously. is this the kind of threat they're using the bomb threat to commander the plane or just a threat to disrupt the system that's why the two jets were escorted by jets. >> in terms of the assessment. is this real or is it a hoax
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how can they do that? especially when the people are using twitter and all you've got is a twitter handle? >> that's one of the challenges we have. there are so many ways to number one mask your identity. mask your intent. and you have to you know analyze this at internet speed so it's extremely difficult. there are certain circumstances that exist where you know we see some sites where we can track it down immediately to say some teenagers being stupid or something like that. but the ones that really know how to hide where they're coming from it's really difficult to figure out what their intent in and who they are. >> it seems like there's been such a cluster of them. 50 threats in the last 11 days. what do you make of that? why the uptick? >> well a lot of times in any kind of crime you have copycats and people in this case in this case it's a felonous monkey see, monkey do.
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you see one crime will follow another. that doesn't surprise me. what surprises me is so many people get the idea this is something they should do. when it's one, a serious federal felony. and they can be prosecuted. and they can be hit with an order to pay restitution. >> but mary the concern is that it could be a real threat or it could be someone testing the system. or the response right? >> that's exactly right. that was a big concern in the wake of september 11th 2001. we found out that they did test the system for many many months. in fact a couple of years before so that the fbi has to sort out. it's very difficult. >> howard this is the challenge, cybersecurity officials trying to track down the perpetrators online. yet, we know about the dark web. we know about the ability of hackers to remain anonymous. how do you confront that? because there's so much and you've got privacy concerns to add on top of that. >> yeah it was yesterday it was privacy day.
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and this was a big topic, is how do you stop these sort of things while still preserving privacy and freedom of speech. it's really really difficult. we had to sit down and analyze the system to say, okay here's the category here's the regions, here's the things that come that we can figure out, and then sort of separate the noise from there. i mean back when i was a policeman in high school bomb threats were sort of a, the common way, but they were coming from a phone booth right next to the school. we have to do that analysis yes. >> cutting through all the noise is so time-consuming and expensive. mary i was thinking the airlines are then confronted with the expense of for example, you scramble fighter jets if you delay flights, if you take people off of a flight that's already boarded. the expense adds up. >> it does. and for anyone who is thinking about doing this a prankster, the expense could be half a million dollares if the airline
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has to cancel a fight and rebook everybody, loses the revenue from any individual flight. depending on the size of the plane and the number of passengers. that could be a mighty big restitution order and as a former federal prosecutor let me assure they are required to put the restitution order in any kind of prosecution. >> it's a federal offense. don't get it twisted. our thanks to czar schmidt, howard thanks so much for being in such good humor. mary always a delight to have you. we want to put it to you at home. are you concerned? does it worry you? fweet us, @newday. chris? hold on to yourself from deflategate to sinusgate. tom brady's got a nasty cold. so what? guys play with broken bones. but so much is on the line. this may affect the odds of the super bowl. does this matter to the game? he's sweating wiping his nose still handsome, though.
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all right. those are footballs. now as we get closer to them we'll start discussing them. >> taking note.
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>> the duke a very good ball was a ball in its own right. now they use it as a nick fame for balls in general. i'm explaining these. that's where we're starting. next lesson marshawn lynch is a beast. they actually say he has beast mode when he's the running back for the seattle seahawks. he's phenomenal. here's what's not so good. he doesn't like talking to the media. >> why not? >> because he doesn't want to he says so they fine him. now there is a wrinkle. he does not like talking to the media, comma, unless -- >> he's wearing one of his hats. >> he can make some money off of it. andy scholes live in arizona. the latest in the super bowl drama dynamic. say it ain't so my white tooth friend. what's going on? >> reporter: hey, chris. what's up? yeah marshawn lynch is not budging when it comes to talking to us sports reporters. media day on tuesday he said i'm just here so i won't get fined 29 times before leaving. then yesterday he had a whole new phrase ready for us. take a listen.
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>> ain't nothing changed from yesterday. you know why i'm here. you know why i'm here. y'all know why i'm here. >> so he said you know why i'm here 14 times before leaving after the mandatory 5 minutes. he's putting on these short performances because he was reportedly looking at a $500,000 fine if he refused to talk. it turns out he may get fined anyways. espn is reporting the league may penalize lynch for wearing his beast mode hat the last two days. it's against the nfl rules to promote your own brands or brands that conflict with league partners. lynch's teammates have his back saying he's being who he is. they think the league should be spending time dealing with other issues as opposed to fining lip much for things like a hat. >> they're focusing on the wrong thing. it's about the game. it's the patriots against the seahawks. it's not about a hat. it's about the game. they taking away from us.
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it's not about a hat, man, it's about football and the people, the media, the people want to see us guys play football. they don't care about a hat. they want to see us go out there and battle and compete and show good sportsmanship. >> reporter: all right. the patriots side of things tom brady has the sniffles. he said his kids and wife giselle are all sick. he's been under the weather for four or five days. he's eating a lot of garlic. he did practice yesterday with no issues. the patriots and seahawks players will talk one more time today. so far you've gotten lynch saying i'm here just so i can't get fined. then he said you know why i'm here. maybe today, alisyn he'll go with something like why do you guys keep trying to ask me questions. >> okay. maybe that would be good. you know what tom brady needs. michaela just offered it up. he needs a tissue. somebody needs to give tom brady a tissue. i guess not. incredible. andy scholes, thanks so much.
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>> reporter: or a hanky. have a good one. listen to this, our top story. another deadline and new ultimatum. jordan is open to a prisoner swap to get the pilot back. how should the u.s. respond to this? we'll ask the state department. begins with the cloud. this is "titanfall," the first multi-player game built and run on microsoft azure. empowering gamers around the world to interact in ways they never thought possible. this cloud turns data into excitement. this is the microsoft cloud. sir, we're going to need you on the runway later. don't let a severe cold hold you back. get theraflu... ...with the power of three medicines to take on your worst pain and fever, cough and nasal congestion. it breaks you free from your toughest cold and flu symptoms. theraflu. serious power.
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the clock is ticking. will the jordanians comply with the terror group's demands. >> i'm not sure jordan can go ahead without an assurance they'll get their pilot up. >> we'll never give up. >> they're holding the word hostage. >> i haven't seen snow like this since '78. >> this was pretty brutal. >> it was a mess.
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up to my hips. >> the water was rising so fast we had waves in the backyard. the four windows, they all came out. >> how much more here? >> we saw a process in his own hearing. >> started going off. >> two or three other antiradicals rushed other and it escalated. >> it is unfortunate that the city has the kinds of divisions that it presently has. >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota and micaela pereira. good morning. welcome to your "new day." thursday january 29th. now 8:00 in the east. only 90 minutes until a deadline set by the terrorists known as isis will pass and one, maybe two lives are on the line. they say they are prepared to kill a jordanian pilot and maybe a japanese hostage if a convicted female terrorist is not returned before the sun goes down. that audio message was
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purportedly delivered by the other hostage in question here kenji goto. he's the second isis hostage. remember, his life also potentially on the line. >> so of course jordan under a lot of pressure to bring his pilot home. what about the japanese hostage? will he be part of the deal as well? in a moment we'll ask the state department about the pearlrils negotiating with terrorists. first, let's go to will ripley. what do we know will? >> reporter: the jordanian government through state tv is putting out an urgent alert. they're working to verify the authenticity of this latest isis propaganda video purportedly with the voice of kenji goto saying if this doesn't happen in the next 90 minutes the pilot mu'adh safi yusuf al-kasasibah will be killed. the deal that isis proposes is kenji goto exchanged at the border of syria and southern turkey in exchange for sajida
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al-rishawi that iraqi woman held in a prison for a terror attack that killed almost 60 people. given this time frame and what we know about the geography here the isis strong hold where kenji goto was said to be headed when he was captured it's 50 miles from the border which means that within the next hour they would have to start transporting goto to some sort of an area where an exchange would take place. we know that jordan has said they are prepared to hand over sajida al-rishawi which means she is positioned close by. with the clock ticking down will the deal come together or will it fall apart. if the latter happens, there is grave fear not only for the life of mu'adh safi yusuf al-kasasibah but also kenji goto. they fear the worst will happen if the deal isn't worked out. the clock is ticking.
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we'll keep watching what happens. >> will that's the dilemma. it's easy to say, ignore them, they're terrorists. lives are on the line. let's bring in cnn national security commentator and former house intelligence committee chairman mike rogers. mike it's hard for me not to call you congressman. i have too much respect for the office you held. today i don't have to i want you to play put your hat on as a congressman, as a u.s. government representative and answer this question for me. does the u.s. negotiate with terrorists? >> well their policy shouldn't be. i think the taliban five when they traded the five senior taliban commanders for sergeant bergdahl certainly muddied the water. the taliban isn't a nation state. it hasn't signed up to any protocols for the treatment of prisoners. that certainly muddied the waters. >> right. >> here you have to respect jordan's effort but think about what's happened here chris. they have just a grip on the
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psychee of america right now, of japan, of jordan. it slows downie real effort to try to combat what is a lethal brutal -- this is a grouch that's raped, beheaded killed people summarily executed them in the streets to gain control. >> right. >> we can't forget that in this whole process. >> i know. there's no question it's a complex situation. is the media helping, hurting? where is the line? but i think that line has to be applied to the government. the u.s. is coming off as hypocritical. don't do it. you do it. you do it. you just did it with bo bergdahl, you've done it in the '80s, you've done it before, you've done it without telling us so why is it so wrong for the jordanians or the japanese to want to try to save their own lives? >> and, again, you're not dealing with a nation state and so are you raising up their level of the credibility of isis who; again, a terrorist organization that holds land the size of indiana? that's the problem here. so you're not dealing with a
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rational nation state. i don't believe that they ever intended for this to happen. the first ransom amount was $200 million. that is completely irrational in any negotiation. they never had a line a connection with the united states on the journalist foley who they ended up beheading. i think they asked $130 million for him. they want the pr. they want exactly what's happening right now. that's why i think those, including me are saying i would be very cautious about trying to engage in this public circus really about a negotiation that i don't believe that they're interested in. they're just interested in the circus. >> all right. so let's say you want to -- you don't want to give them oxygen you don't want to feed the fire. so the alternative then is to do nothing and then wait for the video to come out with the horrible circumstance right? >> well again, i don't know if the pilot's even still alive. we need to understand something, the fate of those two japanese hostages i believe was already made when they set that price at $200 million.
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they signaled that they were not interested in real negotiation so we need to understand where we're at. it's hard. this is a difficult decision. it's a hard decision but if we focus all on this and not how we're going to disrupt their ability to take more hostages i think -- i don't think we're approaching it the correct way, chris. >> very hard. obviously for u.s. pilot or u.s. service men, the disposition of the u.s. government may be different because there would be more skin in the game for them. that's one very difficult situation. let's go to an easier one. let's talk about israeli/arab relations right now and what's going on with hezbollah. do you believe we're headed back into another full-scale conflict like we saw in lebanon? >> this started when they struck a target and killed some senior iranian officials and some hezbollah people. they argued this was retaliatory. i don't think israel needs to go
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there now. i think netanyahu would like to have a response but i think it would be targeted and small. he doesn't need a broadening conflict. certainly hezbollah is engaged in that fight with isis and rebels and other factions. i don't think either one wants to escalate it. i think they were both trying to make a point. the unfortunate part is somebody may make a miss calculation and this thing blows out of control. that's my worry. >> the spokesperson we had on this morning didn't answer the question but explain the situation for us. when i asked is it true you hit in syria and took out some of hezbollah's guys and that's why this happened the answer was hezbollah is a terrorist organization. they're trying to destroy us and we have to protect ourselves everywhere we can. why is the israel argument of our offense is the best defense okay with the united states? >> well, again, you have to understand that in 2006 the last
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real contact with hezbollah was a very offensive operation by hezbollah. they launched rockets, they were shooting at civilians. their target is civilians in these launches. if you know that group is operating against you and you know where they are, just like the united states takes offensive lethal strikes in order to prevent terrorist attacks at home israel participates in the same activities. they're not going to acknowledge it. that's not who they are or what they do mainly because they don't want to tell people exactly how they knew where these folks were and how they were able to target them. so they're not going to talk about it. these are covert operations. i can tell you, they're going to be very aggressive about protecting what they believe is a serious threat to the lives of their citizens. >> so the good news in the situation, if there's any, is that we don't see this leading to bigger things. we have hezbollah and israel saying they're not looking for escalation and that's as good as we can hope for. >> that's as good as we can hope
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for. the only thing we can hope for is somebody miscalculates the intention and it spirals out of control. >> just to be very clear on the other topic we were discussing. when you were in office and the bergdahl trade was on the table, you were against it. you were holding firm to the position we don't deal with these guys in the u.s. even if it means we lose a life? >> i was opposed to it then i'm still opposed to it. one of the things they teach you as a young fbi agent, i used to be an fbi agent, never negotiate with terrorists you'll get more terrorists. one thing we saw after the bergdahl change lots of chatter. bad guys talking to other bad guys in the middle east saying hey, this worked. maybe we should find other western hostages. by the way, if we know any other group that has a western hostage, maybe we can negotiate to get them to use this leverage. that's a dangerous kind of chatter to hear right after that exchange. >> even though it feels like the right thing you are creating precedence. i understand. >> it's very difficult. >> that's why we need good leadership. representative mike rogers now cnn analyst, thank you very much
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for being with us. >> thanks chris. >> mich. chris, we have breaking news. we have learned that the united kingdom intercepted two russian bombers that entered the u.k. so-called area of interest over the english channel. the royal air force escorted the bombers for about an hour and a half until they left bring the tear air space. officials say they never did actually enter u.k. air space. former secretary of state hillary clinton is reportedly thinking of delaying a presidential bid until july. that's three months later than we had previously heard. this is according to politico. top democrats say clinton is taking her time because she can. no major challengers on the democratic side are expected. whatever you are doing, stop because this matters. ready? beer may help fend off brain disorders. here it is. a new study, a compound found in hops one of the delicious
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ingredients of beer could protect brain cells from damage and potentially slow the development of disorders such as alzheimer's and parkinson's diseases. the study is in the "journal of agricultural and food chemistry" which is known to never be wrong. >> is that right? what do they say about tequila? >> i ask for your health. >> regrow hair and increase the ability to do math. >> clearly exhibit a. >> i'm done for because i cannot stand the taste of hops. >> if i've said it once i've said it 100 times, beer is -- >> let's talk about weather because there is a mess out there in parts of new england. three feet of snow on the ground in some places. thousands of people still without power, but life for new englanders slowly returning to normal. cnn meteorologist jennifer gray far from feeling like her life is returning to normal. she's live in boston. we know there's more trouble on the way. >> reporter: yeah, you're right. more trouble. we're going to see two more snowstorms in the next couple of
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days but like you said boston is slowly returning to normal in the time being. the ferry is back up and running. we've seen a lot more foot traffic through here. people returning to work. we did see a lot of delays yesterday on the t. all the lines were delayed but that is expected to get better and better day by day. look behind me. the snow mounds. schools are once again canceled for today. most of the interstates clear. a lot of those side streets are not. look at this the sidewalks and these mounds behind me from all of the plowing, that's one of the reasons school was canceled. the school buses can't even see the kids standing on the other side of those mounds waiting for the bus. so safety precautions, they did cancel school. let's get to that forecast though because i want to show you what's going to be happening in the next couple of days. pretty interesting. we'll time this out. we are expecting another round of snow light snow for tonight through tomorrow morning. of course could linger friday night into saturday morning. we could pick up as little as an inch worse case scenario though about four inches.
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of course, if it's on the higher scale, then it will be another plowable snow. we all know what that means. you have to bring out the plows and get the streets clear again. we do have that system. we also have another one on the way just behind it and it will be here by sunday into monday. still a lot of uncertainty with the track on that. some of the models are taking it off shore around the mid-atlantic completely missing the northeast altogether. other models are showing dumping a few inches of snow once again on monday. we're going to watch those very closely. in the meantime temperatures will stay very very cold. barely get to freezing for today. looks like we'll stay cold tomorrow as well and then take a nose dive back in the teens for the weekend, so two systems to watch. of course this is january into february. we do expect snow here in boston. that's what it does. but when you have almost two feet of snow right behind me and more in some places of course more snow is not what you want to hear guys. >> absolutely. jennifer that has piled up to more than two feet right behind
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can the jordanian government respond before the deadline to release an al qaeda terrorist or will isis follow its usual brutal course and execute the jordanian pilot.
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let's bring in jenn psaki for more. nice to see you, jen. >> good to see you. >> what can you see about the status of the japanese and jordanian hostages this morning? >> well we are watching closely just like you are, just like many people around the world are. i think as important friends, allies partners of the united states our hearts and minds are with the people of japan, the people of jordan but this is an incredibly fluid and incredibly sensitive information -- situation so i can't predict what's going to happen. i don't know if anyone can. >> why do you object to the jordanian government attempting this deal with isis? >> well first of all, i think that's an overstatement. our view and our position as the united states government is that we don't macon sessions to terrorists. now there are certain circumstances, and you've been talking a little bit about bo bergdahl this morning, where he was a member of the military someone who had volunteered to serve his country and we don't leave our men and women behind. we took steps to bring him home. >> isn't the jordanian pilot a
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member of their military and the jordanians don't want to leave him behind? >> he is. jordan is a sovereign country. we're simply stating what our positions are and this is no question alisyn that's why we're all talking about this this is a complicated situation. it's not just one hostage. there are hostages from japan, there are hostages from many countries around the world. we need to see what happens here and of course we'll address it as it happens. >> are you as the state department sending messages to jordan that they should not engage in any sort of prisoner swap with isis? >> well unfortunately, because of our own american hostages and the terrible tragedies and horrific acts that happened last year we've been talking quite a bit about what our positions are. so there are no secrets about that. i think the world knows where the united states stands. we have been engaged with both the government of jordan and the government of japan, but given how sensitive this situation is i'm just not going to lay that out further. >> but, i mean of course we are in a bit of a conundrum because as you've said the u.s. never
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negotiations with terrorists except those times that we do such as the bo bergdahl situation with the taliban. i mean it's hard for us to have truly the high moral ground on this isn't it? >> it's a little bit unfair to state it that way, i have to say. look we have positions for a reason. it's not just to have the position. we believe that when you macon sessions to terrorists it puts more american citizens at risk paying ransoms and negotiating can do that. now we have a policy of course for the men and women who volunteer to serve our country and proudly do that around the world. i don't think anyone is suggesting we should leave them behind. that's our policy. every country has a different policy and this has been an international debate for good reason and i think that will unfortunately continue. >> let me read for you what the father of the jordanian pilot is -- the plea that he is making. he says we want jordan to withdraw from the coalition, he means of fighting isis to ensure the safety of our sons. this is not our war.
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then he refers to the female al qaeda prisoner. who is sajida to us? sajida is a burden on us. let them release her. you know it's hard to argue with a father's logic. they don't want to be any part of this isis battle. >> well alisyn i think anyone can relate to the pain and suffering that a father and mother is feeling in this case. unfortunately, we have many american fathers and mothers who have been feeling that as well but, look we can't -- we're not going to just say okay to terrorists and just bend to their threats. the united states is not going to do that. the government of jordan is not going to do that. we need to degrade and defeat isil so that this is not a threat that is facing the world in the future. so no we can't as governments bend to their threats but we can have compassion for the pain and suffering of families around the world. >> i want to move on to what's happening in israel right now because as you know there is -- i should say in the golan heights. there is tension escalating
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there after two israeli soldiers were shot. we have a bulletin that i was just handed moments ago. this comes from israel's defense minister who says his country has received a message from hezbollah via intermediaries calling for de-escalation of hostilities on the israel/lebanon border. do you know anything about this? do you know the status of hostilities there at this hour? >> i don't have any more details on that. as you mentioned, it sounds like that just came out, though it is important for people who are watching this closely to know that there's been a u.n. security council resolution that has been keeping a moderate amount of peace in this area for the last about eight plus years. certainly we all want to see a reduction in hostilities and tensions and i think that's in the interests of people on both sides. at the same time we understand israel's right to defend themselves and protect their own people. >> prime minister benjamin netanyahu says he tweeted out iran is responsible for this. iran is responsible for yesterday's attack against us from lebanon. this is the same iran that is
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now trying to achieve an agreement that would leave it with the ability to develop nuclear weapons. what's your response to netanyahu? >> well alisyn there's no question that iran and hezbollah have a troubling relationship that goes back some time. we don't have any confirmation of what's been tweeted there or the backup behind that i should say. but putting that aside, there's no question that preventing iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon is in the interests of the united states it's in the interests of iran. i mean i'm sorry in iran yes, because of the sanctions. it's in the interests of the global community. that is separate from concerns we have about them -- their state sponsorship of terrorism which continues, their human rights abuses. those are issues that we will need to continue to address, but preventing them from having a nuclear weapon is what the focus is of the negotiations. >> jen psaki, thank you for the information. >> thank you. let's go over to chris. another big story a city meeting in st. louis breaks into chaos. we're going to talk live with a
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breaking overnight, chaos in st. louis city hall meeting about civilian oversight of police turned ugly and quickly. in a moment we're going to speak with one of the people involved. first, sarah sidner has the story. >> first of all, you cannot tell me --
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>> reporter: chaos unfolding last night between citizens and police at a public meeting in st. louis, missouri. the meeting over a bill intended to improve relations between the community and the police yet the meeting achieved anything but. >> you've heard from speakers before me. >> reporter: one city police officer expressing his disapproval for the new bill to establish a civilian oversight board over police work. seconds later the room erupts into shouts profanity and a shoving match. protesters blame police union business manager jeff rorda who openly displayed an i am darren wilson wrist band and then he and a woman ended up in a confrontation confrontation. it's unclear who started it. he says protesters shouted police down and he stood up to object. >> as i tried to exit she continued to do that. two or three other anti-police radicals rushed over and things de-escalated or escalated from
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there. >> you didn't push a woman? >> no. >> reporter: cache curry says she is no radical but a citizen and she was shoved. >> i was getting up to leave and i guess jeff and terry kennedy were having words. warda jumped out into the aisle and pushed me over. wait a second. >> reporter: the sponsor of the bill alderman antonio french tweeted we saw once again tonight how fractured our city remains. we have a lot of work to do. this just the last confrontation following months of unrest in the wake of the death of michael brown and the acquittal of the ferguson police officer, darren wilson who shot him. sarah sidner cnn, los angeles. joining us now is jeff rorda, the st. louis police union official who you saw was involved in that mele. hopefully cooler heads are prevailing this morning in the light of day. mr. rorda, i'm glad you could join me. what happened last night? >> well michaela chaos is what happened. you know, we -- we attended the hearing. about 100 off duty police
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officers and their supporters outnumbered the anti-police protesters nearly two to one yet the chairman of the committee, the architect of this supposed civilian oversight board bill heard from 35 anti--police witnesses before the first police officer was allowed to testify. when he did and when the two that followed attempted to he allowed them to be shouted over by the crowd. insults screamed out as they tried to testify and i had enough of it. i wasn't going to put up with it anymore. i told the chairman to restore some order and he didn't take kindly to it. >> i want to get to the push in a second but wasn't the idea of this to hear from non-police citizens? >> well no. the idea is to have a civilian oversight board that protects citizens and police officers alike, that fairly and impartially looks into and
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reviews allegations of police misconduct. we're not against that. >> okay. so let's get to the mele. did you shove the young woman to the ground? did you push her aside? >> no. no. >> so what happened? >> absolutely not. no. >> did you bump into her inadvertently? >> no. i tried to get up to the podium. she and other protestors blocked my advance. she -- she started elbowing and pushing and we -- we tried to get our officers out of there as quickly as we could as things just erupted in 1r50i owe lens. >> so jeff i've got to ask you though. i heard the sound bite of you addressing the people in the crowd calling them anti-police radicals. that's a fair amount of rhetoric in a community that is struggling to find some sort of way to begin to heal from what went on there this past year. you wore -- >> yes. >> -- an i am darren wilson
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bracelet and showed it quite visibly during this further inflaming tempers. one has to wonder what your intention was going into that meeting. did you go in with an open heart, open mind saying let's find common ground? >> my intention was to represent rank and file police officers. >> okay. >> that's my job. that's my duty. yes, i wear an i am darren wilson bracelet to work every day. i'm wearing it right now. darren wilson was a police officer who was a victim of attempted murder. he defended his life and he's a hero. >> darren wilson was exonerated and he was -- >> he was. >> -- given due process. >> he was. >> so why wear this into a meeting where you know tempers are bubbling under the surface? >> because i have a right to freedom of speech and expression just as the violent protesters in ferguson who attempted to kill and maim police officers every night. they were defended as exercising
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their right to freedom of speech as they were trying to kill police officers. i think i can wear a bracelet into a public meeting. >> some violent protestors. it's important to point that out. it's very important to point that out. here's a question. >> yes. >> where do we go from here? because the fact is you do recognize that this cannot continue this way. we have to have -- >> right. >> -- conversations. we have to have meetings where, if you will both sides, i hate the fact that there are two sides to this where people in the community can come together and the healing can begin and we can move forward as a community of ferguson as a city as a state and as a nation. >> well for instance sunday night i attended a prayer vigil put on by the clergy in ferguson. over 1,000 people there. friends of mine of both colors and no violence. no protests just a conversation and praying on healing for the
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community. that's what we need more of not what we had last night. >> well i think we agree on that point absolutely to be sure. process of healing has got to begin. jeff roorda thanks for joining us today. >> thank you. >> we hope you can be a part of that process as well okay? >> you bet. >> all right. alisyn. michaela there are stunning new images of boko haram's rein of terror. children being trained as soldiers. what can be done to stop this terror group? we'll discuss that next. my goal was to finally get in shape. not to be focusing again, on my moderate to severe chronic plaque psoriasis. so i finally made a decision to talk to my dermatologist about humira. humira works inside my body to target and help block a specific source of inflammation that contributes to my symptoms. in clinical trials, most adults with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis saw 75% skin clearance on humira.
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shocking new images showing boko haram terrorists training children to become soldiers. cnn's diana magnay is live from johannesburg south africa with more. good morning, diana. >> reporter: hi alisyn. these are two photographs that were tweeted on relatively new twitter account which alleges or purports to be the official mouth piece of boko haram. the name means the most trustworthy grip. these two photographs show children armed with ak-47s
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training in a military training camp. they're extremely young. they don't look more than 9 or 10 years old. now we've spoken to intelligence sources about these photographs. they say they have no reason to doubt either the authenticity of this twitter account or the photographs themselves. and, of course we know that boko haram's strategies is to kidnap children. of course we can't tell whether these are some of those abducted children or whether they are, indeed the children of boko haram militants themselves, but certainly there they are, child soldiers in full force. and it also coincides with what looks like a significant upgrading of boko haram's media strategy perhaps modeling that a little bit on the isis' video production. there was another video that they released yesterday of an interview with the supposed boko haram military spokesman where the interviewer and interviewee
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are masked. it all does appear to be similar to what isis is doing in iraq and syria. and let's hope that those are simply emulating each other rather than at this stage any closer ties. michaela, back to you. >> all right. thanks so much. here we go with the five things that you need to know for your "new day." number one, just one hour now remains before isis says it will execute a jordanian pilot unless his government releases a female terrorist. that threat was issued in an audio message, a new one purportedly from kenji goto, another isis hostage. folks in new england digging out after a blizzard that dumped three feet of snow. believe it or not, there's another snow, perhaps two in the forecast. malaysian officials are declaring the loss of the flight an accident. all passengers are presumed dead. the search will indeed continue.
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at this moment with the growing economy, shrinking deficits bustling industry booming energy production we have risen from recession freer to write our own future than any
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other nation on earth. >> then why is that future seemingly been written in the negative by the stock market and companies? if everything is supposed to be so good for you as the consumer and worker is on the way up what's going on with the stock market? what's going on with these big companies. let's get some perspective. price waterhouse coopers, mr. bob moritz. where is the disconnect my friend? help me understand. >> sure. i think the president's comments are somewhat spot on but i think there's an underlying story that hasn't been told yet. our ceo survey ceo's outside the u.s. clearly say they want to be investing in the u.s. it overtook china which has been number one for the past five years. >> good news. >> great news. ceos also say while there's great optimism 60% of them say there's more risks than there were three years ago. interesting where we are today relative to the risk profile and the volatility. >> that's the impact. >> why? >> you have a number of different things. issues around foreign exchange
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as you look at economies outside the world. you have the issues of cyber terrorism coming at companies and the like. you've got the issues of social unrest. outside of the u.s. that has an impact on the companies inside the u.s. so you've got to be looking at all of these factors as big issues that are on the top of the minds of the consumers, the investors and the ceos. >> i can't get away from what the consumers are feeling. they're looking at gas prices and feeling confident. home heating oil prices. economy in terms of jobs more people getting back to work. at home i'm feeling good and then i look at my portfolio and i see what the stock market is doing. can those two things ever be in sin cloe nis city? >> i don't think they will be. i think there's a trailing indicator. the stock market has two elements to it. one is the amount of cash coming inside looking for stability. the u.s. market is it. last year you saw that rise. no surprise on the amount of cash coming in looking for yield. it is very susceptible to all these risks and the headline
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news the headline news in terms of what's happening in russia what's happening in the middle east what's happening in france with the terrorism? that's the issue that's out there. you'll see a lot of volatility as this thing becomes a little bit more stabilized and equalized. >> there's always risk and we know that earnings are at record levels so why aren't they paying their workers more money? >> i think you have two issues there, chris. one is when you look at the consumer today, that confidence is up. when you look at the ceo's confidence in terms of running a company in the u.s. it's up. when you look at the wage force, you've got two issues. one is that inflation hasn't driven the need to do that. second while unemployment continues to come down the underlying story is the number of people that are actually in the job market. that slack. that differential between the official statistic and the unofficial in terms of how many are really out there. you have a larger supply of people that are able to work should they be able to choose to hire them. >> what happened in just the last month? why was the stock market gangbusters in november and december and in the past few
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weeks or even week we're now seeing it decline? >> look i think you rode a curve for quite a while on the stock market. i think the combination of people looking at a slowing economy. again, just to give you another stat from our ceo survey. ceos and consumers and investors are less confident in the global economy than they were a year ago. even though in the u.s. as you say we feel pretty good about where we are, the u.s. is the shining star in a global economy. as a result they are very focused on well hold on a second. what is really happening in europe? now we're getting more headlines in terms of foreign exchange issues. more headlines in terms of greece. getting more instability out there. the stock market ultimately rises on stability as well as economic growth and that stability isn't there. >> you were talking about risks, and one of the things that i can imagine it's all ceos around the globe is concerned about cyber security. we report on it all the time. unfortunately it seems the threats have been on the uptick et cetera. i'm curious how that plays into bottom lines, right?
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it's expensive to protect your systems. again, if you don't have the confidence of your consumer -- >> yeah good news/bad news right. the ceos see the confidence of the consumer. they'red from in that. they're using technology, social media and digital to go after them. good news. they're using technology more. that's why you see the revenues from the technology kpsz continue to rise. on the bad news side is the fact we've got to spend more money to shore up the infrastructure to deal with that cyber risk. that risk is becoming ever so increasingly important. it's the number one business risk around the world. >> we've seen some companies get caught with their pants down. >> sure. >> that leads to another issue. are there enough talented people to actually deal with that issue? when you look at the gap, ceos have that cyber risk at a high level. when youent to deal with it not so big. >> if you have skills that are needed they'll pay you more which goes back to the obvious need to train your workers so
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they can get these jobs. that comes down to government as well. and private business wanting to fund that training which we haven't seen yet. let me ask you something. oil prices are low. we keep saying it's because the saudis are holding the price down. there's a supply glut. the demand isn't there. is there another story, as you say, that isn't being told that instead of mortgages the big boy bankers are now wrapping up a lot of their derivatives, their funny money with oil as an asset and that as price came down they're unwinding trillions of dollars of these derivatives and that's tanking the market as well? >> i'm not sure i see it that clearly, chris, or make that much of a connection to it. i think when you look at commodities in general, oil clearly has had the wand that's come down in the opposite direction. all the financial institutions and the institutions outside of that are playing in that derivatives market to hedge that issue, protect themselves against the ups and downs and swings against it. you have a little bit of that. i don't think it's the driving story. i do think you have a phenomenon
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now in terms of the u.s. energy surplus when they think about shale and the promise of shale. then obviously the geopolitical issues. it's not just the middle east. you have an issue with russia and venezuela as well. >> great to have you. >> happy to be here. we do want to hear from you. what do you think is going on with the economy? is a stronger dollar good or bad for you? tweet us at "new day" or go to facebook.com/newday. >> looks like it depends who you is these days. there's no question there's a lot of negativity out there, right? there's also the good stuff, and how about a love affair for the ages? one nasty snowstorm and two shovels. what am i talking about? >> intrigued. >> i'm not sure, but the good stuff will explain it all.
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if you know that there is something out there that can help why not start today? . that's a daisy a day. it was the favorite song of these two love birds. bud caldwell and his wife betty. after 60 years of marriage bud lost betty. listen to what he did. he bought a local park bench in her memory and every day he visits that bench and leaves a
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daisy no matter what. >> just seemed the natural thing to do. this is one way i can show that. >> so then if you haven't heard, this huge blizzard came through and blocked his path. how was belty going to get her daze daisy? seemed all was lost until municipal employees jared and kevin. >> we both commented that we just can't have this. we've got to make sure he can get to his bench and talk to his wife. >> e i love them. >> they saw bud there. he didn't even have to shovel. they shoveled out the path by hand and they promised to keep it clear for bud whenever it snows. >> that's so beautiful. >> thanks. >> love it. >> gorgeous. >> the good stuff. thank you so much fellas for making bud's day and our day as well. time for the "newsroom" with miss carol costello. a daisy a day, carol.
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a daisy a day. >> a daisy a day. i like that. i'll carry that with me throughout the day. thank you. have a good day. "newsroom" starts now. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me. we begin with breaking news. time is running out. an isis deadline to release a convicted terrorist is up in just a matter of minutes. this is the woman terrorists say they want freed from a prison in jordan. she was sentenced to death in

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