ord. super. john berman, cnn, new york. that's it for "the lead." i'm jake tapper in new york. i turn you over to wolf blitzer who is in -- where is he? "the situation room." happening now, return to terror. new information that one of the five gitmo detainees traded for captured sergeant bowe bergdahl may have gone back to his own way. the deal to trade a terrorist for a captured pilot has stalled. we await word. north korea nukes. there is concern that the hard line regime is restarting a reactor as kim jong-un may be planning his first foreign trip to moscow. plus a devastating explosion at a maternity hospital. there are dozens of casualties and an urgent search for babies and adults who may be trapped in the rubble.

i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." let's get to the breaking news. in a cnn exclusive, we are learning that one of the so-called taliban five guantanamo detainees swapped for army sergeant bowe bergdahl may have returned to terror activity. this comes as we await word of an exchange between isis and a key u.s. ally, jordan had agreed to swap a jailed female bomber for one of its pilots whose american-made fighter jet crashed in syria. but the jordanians have demanded proof the pilot is alive and there is no word yet on his fate or that of a japanese hostage. we have full coverage of both of these stories and a whole lot more. our correspondents and analysts are standing by along with congresswoman loretta sanchez of the armed services and homeland security committees. let's begin with some exclusive reporting. our pentagon correspondent barbara starr has the very latest. barbara? >> reporter: wolf good evening. several u.s. sources now tell me the u.s. intelligence community

suspects that one of those taliban five traded out of gitmo to get sergeant bowe bergdahl back one of them may now be reengaging in militant activity from where they are in the persian gulf nation of qatar. that's where they went after they were transferred out of gitmo. the u.s. conducts classified surveillance of their communications intercepts monitors them all the time in all of their communications. a couple of months ago something popped up that caused concern. now the u.s. intelligence community trying to determine is it a threat how much of a threat it may be. they are monitoring all five of them much more closely now, making sure they are on top of all of their communications, although they were monitoring them before. as this is going on wolf the world is watching in another prisoner swap another potential exchange in jordan and syria. tense anticipation at this border crossing between syria

and turkey. desperately waiting for any signal that japanese journalist kenji goto and jordanian fighter pilot mu'adh al kasasibah are free. as the sunset deadline passed there is no signs isis is meeting jordan's key condition, proof the pilot is alive before it releases sajida al rishawi, held since being convicted of a series of hotel bombings in jordan in 2005. coalition war planes drones and satellites continue flying over isis strongholds in northern syria looking for any signs of unusual activity perhaps a convoy moving towards the border. but hope may be fading. >> given the fact that isis has executed every hostage that they have publicly produced on a videotape except one british hostage, it does suggest that isis is not that interested in serious negotiations and is principally interested in the ability to get a lot of attention to its cause.

>> reporter: leaving families in agony. in tokyo, kenji goto's wife heard from his captors on wednesday with their demand for a swap. >> our baby girl was only seven weeks old when he left. >> reporter: in jordan the pilot's family also waits for news. >> translator: if you release your brother, it will have a very positive reaction from all the jordanian and palestinian tribes. >> reporter: for now, the jordanians say al rishawi remains in jordan. as for isis, silence so far. and the jordanians very aware of in fact the bergdahl trade analogy. the jordanians making the case that if this does work they are not negotiating with terrorists. their view is this is a prisoner exchange as happens very often on the battlefield. wolf? >> lot of sensitivities

involved obviously. barbara, thank you. let's bring in our chief national security correspondent jim sciutto. there is now word we are getting that more americans have been killed in afghanistan. >> reporter: that's exactly right. i'm told by a u.s. official that three u.s. contractors were killed along with an afghan national. this attack took place at kabul airport, the north side where there's a major coalition military base. i'm told as well by a u.s. official quote, that initially, it looks like an insider attack though it is still being investigated. so-called insider attacks or green on blue attacks when it involves blue for coalition forces green for afghan forces have been a consistent problem, though they peaked in the year 2012 48 such attacks then down to just six last year. if this does turn out to be an insider attack it would be a worrisome sign as we are in a period of transition in afghanistan as coalition forces transition from securing the country to advising and assisting afghan forces in doing that but it's a major issue. we talked about it a number of times. the highest profile such attack

took place in august last year. you will remember it was a two star american general who was killed in such an attack. it's enough of a concern that when i have traveled to afghanistan, you talk to forces there, they have what are called guardian angels to look after you in case someone turns their gun on you. less of a concern than it was a couple years ago but still a real one. >> certainly extremely dangerous to simply go there if you are an american. let's talk about the swap the so-called swap these two hostages who are being held by isis. the female terrorist who is obviously in jail in jordan for ten years. a lot of analysts are suggesting irrespective of what happens, isis' status has been elevated already. >> no question. this is a group that thrives on attention, whether it's an attack that they carry out successfully whether on the ground in the region there or overseas like we saw, for instance at least the claim of the attack in the sydney cafe for instance. but also this kind of thing

where they have these hostages and it's not just their death that demonstrates their power, but it's also holding a major power to task here. jordan carrying on negotiations which are confusing and difficult negotiations for the jordanians and you have seen that with these constantly changing deadlines and demands and it's one reason why you have had a lot of questions raised about why jordan took part in these attacks even with the life of that pilot in danger what's to be gained can you really trust that the other side will deliver. it's eight hours past that sundown deadline still no word. worrisome sign. >> jim sciutto, thanks very much. jordan has already made it clear it is certainly prepared to carry out a swap with isis but it's sticking to its demand for proof that its captured f-16 fighter pilot is still alive. what's the latest over in jordan? >> reporter: wolf we have not heard anything from the jordanian governments in the last few hours, the last thing

we heard what is they are saying publicly. they are saying they are still willing to make this exchange they are willing to release the female prisoner but they still want that proof of life. as you mentioned, this is critical for the jordanians. so far, they say they have not received it although they have been demanding this for some time now. they say it is critical and there will only be a release if that happens. until then this iraqi female prisoner remains in jordan and remains in jail. it's a very tense night here in jordan. not just for the government and the family but many jordanians are really concerned about this situation and what might happen next. >> he's considered a hero in jordan this fighter pilot. the jordanians understandably want him back. thanks very much. let's go in depth on all of this. joining us now, a key member of the house armed services and homeland security committees democratic congresswoman loretta sanchez of california. congresswoman, thanks very much for joining us. do you believe these negotiations between one of our

key allies in the middle east jordan and isis about a possible prisoner swap do you believe it sets potentially a dangerous precedent? >> well we never want to see isis get the type of attention that it's getting. it uses these types of protracted sort of situations for propaganda to get more militants in to its army if you will so it's never a good sign. on the other hand of course we have seen this throughout many wars where you have prisoner exchanges. so you know this is an important pilot to the jordanians. they want to see him back. i can sort of understand why they are doing this. >> some people are suggesting congresswoman, that the obama administration set a bad example by agreeing to swap five taliban prisoners who had been held at guantanamo bay for a long time for the release of u.s. army sergeant bowe bergdahl this past

summer. they say this was in effect negotiating with terrorists at the same time, to which you say? >> well first i would say we leave no man or woman behind. that's really a core piece of our people who go into the military to work for us on behalf of us to keep america and americans safe. so whichever way you want to cut it it's a difficult situation to do. the fact of the matter is we did get him back and that was important to not only the family here but to many people across our united states to make sure that we bring our military back. >> so you're okay i just want to be precise on this congresswoman, negotiating with groups like the taliban or with isis both of which are seen as terrorist organizations by the u.s. government you're okay with a swap with them? >> what i'm saying is it's important to bring our military people home. that's the first thing. the second thing is for anybody

to think for a minute that there are not negotiations that go on in almost any case would be to be a little bit naive about what's going on. as i said there have been plenty of wars, we negotiated we do prisoner exchanges all the time for example in world war ii. and those we knew about. so there are many things that happened some of which the american public doesn't even know where we do try to get our men and women in particular who are in military uniform back to our country. >> so if there were an american and fortunately there isn't, if there were an american f-16 fighter pilot in the hands of isis right now, you would be willing to negotiate with them in order to bring that american pilot home? >> i think it's important to bring that american pilot home. i haven't been involved in any of those negotiations certainly, but i do believe that they go on more than we can see when we have a man or woman down

somewhere. >> you heard barbara starr's report from the pentagon that one of those five taliban prisoners freed from guantanamo bay has now returned to what are being described as militant activities. what's your reaction to that? >> well first of all, you are probably talking to one of the few democrats who has always said we need to have an alternative to gitmo, to guantanamo before we close it down because we have people in there who tend to if we release them go back into doing what they were doing before. what do i mean by that. i believe that even of those that we have released to other countries, not in prisoner exchanges but just because we were trying to move them on we really didn't have the type of evidence we needed to convict them et cetera we did some of this moving them from gitmo into other places and we have seen a very high recidivism rate. we have seen i believe the last time i checked it was about 70% of these people tend to go back

into their old business. most of which is against western countries, certainly sometimes against the united states. so i'm not surprised that at least one of those five may be back into bad business. i would anticipate it's probably even higher. >> i want you to hold on because we will continue this conversation congresswoman loretta sanchez of california. we have a lot more to discuss. we are following the breaking news on multiple fronts. (soft, calm music.) hi, you've reached emma. i'm out of the office right now, but will get back to you just as soon as i possibly can. your call is important to me. join princess cruises for exclusive discovery at sea experiences. enjoy cruises from $499 during our 50th anniversary sale. call your travel consultant or 1-800-princess.

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we're back with a key member of the house armed services and homeland security committees democratic congresswoman loretta

sanchez of california. quick question. you sit on the armed services committee. you know what's going on. the president says he wants to degrade and ultimately destroy isis. how's that working out? >> well again, you are talking to a democrat who even of the president's party has been one of the biggest people espousing the idea that somehow if we give arms to people or we use the iraqi army or we train the iraqi army somehow they are going to put down isis in iraq or in syria, i just believe that that's a big dream and a big fantasy. i think it's very difficult to do this to do it the way that certainly the president has outlined so far. i don't believe that it is working as we need it to work. isil and isis whatever you want to call it is a deep threat to the american people and more

importantly, it's a threat to the region that we find ourselves so deeply involved in. i certainly think that we need to sit down at the table and come up with a different strategy. >> what would be -- what would you like to see the united states do to degrade and ultimately destroy isis? >> well again, i don't have a lot of confidence at this point and i have been working this issue of iraq. remember you are seeing somebody who didn't vote for the iraqi war but having said that supported trying to get our troops in the right place. we went to this whole issue of trying to increase the iraqi army, to train them. it was pretty significant that they turned away. the real hard issues of what is actually happening in iraq goes all the way back to our biggest and major problem and that would be iran. until we figure out how we contain what iran is doing, it's affecting that entire region. i think it really needs for us

to step back and to really take a look at our involvement in the region. iraq on its own or syria and iraq on its own is not going to solve the continuing problem that we have in that arena. iran seems to destabilize everything and anything that it possibly can in order to keep us tied up there. >> on the other hand iran is deeply opposed to isis as well. iran, a shiite country, they support bashar al assad's shiite-led regime in damascus. isis is sunni so let me just repeat the question. what do you want -- i assume you agree with the president, isis represents a threat it must be degraded and destroyed. what would you like to see the u.s. do? >> i think the u.s. either has to decide it's going to be all in and get this done or it has to decide that we are not the players to get that done. and there are plenty of partners that we have in that region who

quite frankly haven't been asked and haven't stepped up to take care of the things that are going on in their neighborhood. so i think i would get much tougher and have a real sit-down with our partners in that arena. >> which countries are you talking about? >> well you know we have saudi, we have uae, we have turkey who has, you know completely -- may be a nato ally but hasn't been as helpful as i think that it should be. we've got some real problems there in that arena. >> sounds to me like you would like to see the united states simply evacuate get out of that part of the world and get home. is that right? >> well i think we either -- we can't be half in or half out. we either really -- i mean we really have to take care of this situation one way or another. if isis and isil or whatever you want to call it is a threat to

us coming back here in the homeland then we better get our heads together with our allies out there and take care of business. either they've got to step up to the plate and take care of business or we've got to step up to the plate to take care of business. >> as you know right now, there's at least some training there's an operation in the works to try to regain mosul, the second largest city in iraq from isis working with iraqi forces working with kurdish forces and u.s. military commanders are getting involved as advisors to try to go in and retake the city of nearly two million people. it could be bloody it could be and almost certainly will be a very dangerous situation. the pentagon is clearly getting ready for that. the president seems to support it. do you? >> well if i believe that we with air cover and with training of troops on the ground that we could have a fast and significant and real win in

mosul, i would be for it. if the iraqi army were as into going and getting this job done as for example, the kurdish fighters the kurds have been with us the whole time. they will go in and get the job done. the problem is that we haven't even armed them. we armed through the shiite government that is in place in iraq and what happens is that they don't get the weapons into the hands of the true fighters and the true allies that we have up in northern iraq. so you know unless we're really going to put troops in i don't believe that the iraqi soldiers will really get the job done. >> loretta sanchez is a member of the armed services and homeland security committees. thanks very much for joining us. >> my pleasure. thanks for having me wolf. coming up a growing war of words between israel and one of its deadliest adversaries. will it lead to more shootings and deaths? also coming in to "the situation room," dramatic pictures of today's explosion that leveled

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as israel buries its dead from a surprise hezbollah missile strike the radical shiite group celebrates a victory, the rhetoric on both sides is at a fever pitch right now. that's rhetoric. israel's prime minister is blaming iran for the ambush and warns that his country will defend itself against threats in his words, near and far. can both sides pull back from the brink? let's go to our global affairs correspondent, elise labott joining us from along the israeli/lebanese border. what's the latest on this very

tense situation? >> reporter: well israel saying it's getting messages from hezbollah that it's not interested in escalating this situation further and there's a tense calm along the border here. one former military commander told us today that it's almost too calm and that makes him nervous, because any wrong move on either side of the border could lead to war in this northern frontier. tonight, israeli forces are on high alert along the northern border with lebanon after hezbollah launched its deadliest attack against the israeli military in nearly a decade. responding with air strikes and shelling inside lebanon, hezbollah's home base. a somber burial for the two israeli soldiers killed in wednesday's missile attack. tears and rage fueling calls for retaliation and fears of all-out war.

israeli prime minister netanyahu vows to make hezbollah pay a heavy price along with its patrons in iran. >> translator: iran is responsible for yesterday's attack against us from lebanon. >> reporter: israel says it's determined not to let iran use hezbollah to build what it calls a new quote, terror front on the golan heights along israel's northerner border with syria, like it's done inside lebanon which is why the israeli military targeted iran and its proxies inside syria last week in an attack that killed an iranian general and six hezbollah commanders prompting hezbollah's revenge attack on wednesday. >> they want to keep what we call the axis of evil tehran damascus and lebanon, to keep the rearming process of the hezbollah. what they are doing in the last 15 years. >> reporter: right now, israel's greatest fear is that iran will develop nuclear weapons, warning that will give terrorists a

quote, nuclear umbrella. putting israel the middle east and potentially the entire world in grave danger. wolf today the nuclear umbrella that prime minister netanyahu was talking about is certainly going to be front and center when he makes that address to congress in just about a month from now, where he's expected to talk about his concerns for the international talks with iran to strike a nuclear agreement. >> as far as you're hearing over there, he's still planning on coming to washington march 3rd? there's a lot of buzz out there that he might look for a way to avoid coming given all the controversy over how this trip was established, the elections in israel two weeks later on march 17th. as far as you know right now, elise, is he still planning on coming to washington or is he going to find a way to avoid this visit? >> reporter: well, there's a lot of rumors about should he come should he go. certainly his opponents have

been saying that he's ruining the relationship with the united states as a result. there's a lot of pressure on him to cancel but wolf this whole situation on the border almost kind of works to his narrative that iran is the real problem here and it's even more important for him to come and make the case that iran should not be able to have a nuclear program. >> be careful up there at the border the northern border of israel with lebanon. we will stay in touch with you. up next there's other important news we are following here in "the situation room." there are new reports kim jong-unmay be restarting reactor to make nuclear bombs. and a deadly blast at a maternity hospital. when the flu hits, it's a really big deal. the aches. the chills. the fever. an even bigger deal? everything you miss out on... family pizza night. the big game. or date night. why lose out to the flu any longer than you have to? prescription tamiflu can help you get better

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troubling new information that north korean leader kim jong-un is planning what is being described as aggressive new military and diplomatic moves. cnn's brian todd is live in "the situation room." what are you learning? >> we were talking about why kim jong-un is seemingly in hiding. now it looks like he's doing a 180. tonight we have new details on how kim may be trying again to manufacture nuclear bombs and that he may be striking up an alliance with one of america's chief rivals. with tensions already simmering, there are fresh concerns tonight that kim jong-un is doubling down on his aggression toward his enemies. at north korea's main nuclear complex, signs that the regime may be restarting the reactor used to make fuel for nuclear

bombs. that's according to a new report from the u.s. korea institute. >> i'm not pressing the panic button here but every facility in north korea that produces material for nuclear weapons should be of concern to us. if this one is going back online it's of concern to us. >> reporter: the plutonium reactor had been offline since august. the institute says it's too soon to conclude something's happening inside now, but new satellite photos show some telling signs. this picture in december shows some melting snow on the roof of the reactor building and the turbine building as well as some steam. a week later in january, there were even more areas of melted snow. in december the frozen river by the plant had patches near the waste water outlet that were not frozen. in january, there was even more open water. what could all of this mean? >> the reactor may be restarting. if it's restarting over time it will be producing bomb making

material inside the rods that fuel the reactor. at some point they will shut the reactor down move the thousands of rods to the other facility and take out the material and build more bombs. >> reporter: joel whitt says kim's regime only has a few nuclear bombs now but could have as many as 100 within five years. kim jong-un could also be flexing his diplomatic muscle soon. he has been invited to a summit with vladimir putin in may. russian officials are quoted as saying north korea's leaders have accepted but will kim go? venturing outside north korea for the first time as leader? one analyst says taking kim out of his comfort zone is risky. >> as he appears before the world media, really only on his terms with his propaganda setting with his generals and his battalions the risk of sending kim jong-un who with his cult of personality is portrayed within the north korean system as a kind of god-king is that

it's unscripted there are other world leaders, it's an international and multi lateral event, and he could look like a fool. >> reporter: there are benefits to kim going to this event. u.s. officials tell us they think he may go possibly an effort to build ties with vladimir putin and others as his alliance with china cools down. i asked a north korean official at the u.n. if kim is going to russia. he said he had no information on that. >> at least he gave you an answer. >> not much of one. >> what are you hearing from your experts and other sources you are talking to about how close north korea might be to actually putting a nuclear warhead on a bomb? >> the experts we spoke to who know the technical part of this say north korea very likely already has the capability to put a warhead on a missile that could reach south korea and/or japan. they do not have a missile yet that can reach the united states. they are some years away from that. but they are working on it. of course that's disturbing to everybody. >> they have intermediate range

and even long range missiles as well. if they were to put a nuclear warhead on it that would be a disaster for a lot of people. thanks very much, brian todd reporting. we are getting new information about today's deadly explosion at a maternity hospital. an amateur cameraman was shooting video of a fire truck when the explosion occurred on the outskirts of mexico city. at least two people are dead dozens of adults and infants are hurt. officials are blaming a malfunction involving a natural gas delivery truck. "time" magazine reporter johan grio was on the scene of the blast and joins us on the phone. tell us what you know. what happened here? >> very tragic situation here. the gas truck exploded and the fire also spread through oxygen chutes inside the hospital causing about 40% of the entire hospital building to collapse. among the buildings which

collapsed was collapsed held newly born babies. i's a very confusing situation. we have medics here there are firemen, we have soldiers marines, federal police and everyone working to clear the area. very confusing information about exactly how many people have died and how many people are injured. >> what are they saying about this malfunction involving a natural gas delivery truck? it looks like a huge explosion there. the remnants are devastating. what are they saying about this gas delivery truck? >> well these gas trucks are quite unstable. they supply a lot of gas around mexico city and there's a history of problems with these trucks blowing up. now, one problem seems to be that where the truck was putting gas into hospital was close to

some kind of oxygen line oxygen for patients. it caused the explosion. we are nine hours after it exploded and the gas is still burning. about 100 people are around it. some people are saying it could explode again and some are saying they're not sure. there could be a secondary explosion from gas that's still around the place or other gases, oxygen, different things from the hospital. >> thanks very much for joining us. devastating, devastating explosion at that maternity hospital outside mexico city. thanks very much. looks devastating indeed. we are getting new details about the last moments of that doomed airasia jet right now, including some surprising and puzzling indications that the more experienced pilot in the cockpit was not at the controls. at the top of the hour we'll have the latest on the negotiations over a possible prisoner swap with isis.

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we're learning important but puzzling new details about the final minutes aboard that airasia jet that crashed into the java sea, killing all 162 people on board. let's bring in our aviation correspondent, rene marsh. she is working the story. rene what's going on? >> we now know which of the two pilots was flying a plane when it crashed and tonight, new details are emerging about erratic movements the plane made midair before it went down. indonesian investigators say the copilot was controlling the doomed jet while the more

experienced captain monitored the flight. >> 2,000 hours in the airbus should have been enough time to make him capable of handling most emergencies, but this looks like it may have been an extreme emergency. >> reporter: he flew for airasia indonesia for three years and had more than 2,000 hours in the a-320 but the captain had more than 6,000 hours, more than 13 years commercial experience, and ten years flying for the military. one indonesian crash investigator used a model airbus a-320 to demonstrate how they believe things unravelled in just 3:20. according to indonesian authorities, flight 8501 was cruising at 32,000 feet when it veered left tilted to its side wobbled, then climbed to 37,400 feet in just 30 seconds. the stall warnings which sound like this --

then suddenly the aircraft began to fall. once below 24,000 feet the plane disappeared from radar. this is a former ntsb investigator. >> it could be due to one of two things. one, the automation was shutting down. now they have to take over and fly. or two, the actual turbulence was inducing g-force movements in the pilot's hand causing the wobbling to get worse. >> reporter: investigators say the crew was properly certifyied and the plane had no history of problems. despite the military withdrawal the hunt for 90 still missing will continue. >> investigators had submitted the preliminary report but would not release it at today's briefing. it's unclear if it will be released. this could be the investigators being very careful since the preliminary report often the

facts may change because it's just that preliminary. back to the pilots. we know who was in control. it's not at all unusual for the co-pilot to be in control of the aircraft. they often times take turns. >> thanks very much for that. let's get more now. joining us in "the situation room," a former commercial pilot who has flown the same as that jet. thanks for joining us. you heard the report right now. the co-pilot had control of the plane at that very critical moment the disaster what took three minutes to unfold. could the captain, who had more flying hours, a lot more experience, could he potentially have taken over and corrected it? >> well indeed. when you do get a situation like this with aircraft entering unusual latitudes, it would be normal for the more experienced pilot to take control. i'm not convinced that the first

officer, the co-pilot in the right-hand seat was flying it at the moment that the aircraft started to enter these strange maneuvers. in any event, he would have been controlling it through the autopilot. it's not a hands-on flight in the cruise. the autopilot is controlling. while the first officer would have been in charge he is monitoring the auto flight system. once the aircraft had entered the strange maneuvers, it's possible the captain did take control. i'm not too certain of what these reports said at the moment. >> it seems common correct me if i'm wrong, in the commercial aviation industry very often you have an experienced pilot and a less experienced co-pilot. is that a problem? >> not really. every airline pilot has to learn their craft, their trade at

some -- somewhere or other. they won't fly them empty without passengers. so once you've got your license you will fly fully loaded airliners and flying with a captain experienced. real problem might occur where you have an inexperienced captain, somebody who has recently made up to captain from co-pilot who is then flying with a very junior co-pilot. that can occasionally happen. that is less desirable. in this case you have a very experienced captain. i really don't see that as an issue. however, an experienced first officer is able to offer more advise and be less of a burden on the captain than otherwise would be the case. >> we're getting more insight into what happened. we're still not sure obviously. we don't know why this plane crashed into the java sea. do you have enough information yet for you to put forward some

theory? >> well i mean one can speculate about this. it's difficult to say. one usually ends up getting it wrong. however, having said that it is possible this was a case -- there may have been a technical problem which led to jet upset or the aircraft entering a stall. it was descending at 14,000 feet a minute from some of the figures i have seen. that's either a stall or a vertical dive if the aircraft was in level flight with the nose of the aircraft at the same level at the tail then that would be a stall. very difficult to recover from that at night in thunderstorm activity. they would be up against it. it is difficult to say. loss of situational awareness where the pilots become confused as to the attitude the aircraft is in. that's extremely unusual. but then so again are accidents like this. >> they are.

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crossing where a convicted terrorist may be traded for their release. new evidence the exchange involveing beau bergdahl is having serious consequences. plus this. police scuffle. an angry shoving match breaks out at a meeting designed to ease tensions that erupted in ferguson missouri. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you are in "the situation room." growing fears about the fate of two isis hostages as plans for a swap hit a wall. isis is threatening to kill a japanese journalist and a jordanian fighter pilot unless a convicted terrorist is released. it has been hours since that was supposed to happen. breaking right now, cnn is getting new information about one of the taliban detainees

freed in exchange for beau bergdahl. they suspect that former prisoner may have returned to terror. we have correspondents analysts news makers standing by. we're covering all the news that's breaking right now. first, let's go to our chief national security correspondent, jim sciutto. he has the latest. >> reporter: i'm told by officials that a tense, nervous wait continuing into the early morning hours among government officials. we are eight and a half hours past the deadline. no word. this is the third isis deadline in the last week. others have passed and hostages have lived. the most worrisome sign is the absence of any proof of life for the jordanian pilot. the sunset deadline has passed. the fates of the captives the jordanian pilot and kenji goto remain unknown.

crucially, the terror group has yet to meet jordan's demand for proof the pilot is still alive. >> at this point, we want to emphasize we have asked for a proof of life. and we have not received anything as of yet. we need a proof of life. >> reporter: today's deadline is the third isis set in little more than a week. the wait began with this video showing two japanese hostages. >> to the prime mip sternister of japan -- >> reporter: and making a demand for $200 million. the first deadline passed last friday and grim proof followed that one hostage had been executed. this image showing mr. goto holding what appeared to be a photo of yukawa's headless body. goto was spared. >> what it shows is they are reacting tactically. they no longer have a strategic

plan. they are just trying to get the best thing going. >> reporter: days later, a change in demands. isis seeking the release of this convicted female jihadi sajida al rishawi, imprisoned for her role in a suicide bombing. isis added a new threat. if the swap was not made the jordanian pilot would die along with goto. >> a huge different between a prisoner swap between warring factions and a ransom request. that's the key difference. >> reporter: last night, isis issued a new ultimatum, deliver sajida al rishawi to the turkish border or the two hostages would not survive the day. the relentless back and forth has raised hard questions about whether isis was truly negotiating at all. whether jordan made a mistake to

try. >> they are attempting to elevate themselves into the status of a political movement and a state. they are not. they are a terrorist organization. >> reporter: jordan would consider the exchange the equivalent of a prisoner of war swap. there are concerns that sajida al rishawi would return to terrorism if she was returned to isis' hands. as this wait continues, tonight hopes fading. i'm told this is not going to be over until they have any sort of final proof here. of course we are many hours past the deadline. as you get further away from the deadline the hopes do become dimmer. >> so many people are bracing for the worst as far as the two hostages held by isis are concerned. you are learning on a different area about a shooting in afghanistan that left three americans dead in kabul. >> reporter: this took part at the airplane. three u.s. contractors shot and

killed just around 6:40 p.m. local time. another afghan killed as well. i'm told initially it looks like an insider attack. it's being investigated. it has been a problem in afghanistan, particularly green on blue attacks. they really peaked in 2012. they have come down a lot since then. of it would be a bad sign particularly as coalition forces there, including u.s. forces transition to an advise and assist role. >> obviously, that country is by no means secure right now. thanks very much. the wife of the japanese journalist being held by isis issued a new plea for his life to be saved. will ripley is joining us from tokyo. what are you hearing about the hostage's fate? >> reporter: these are new and

very tear phirrifying details. since early december she has been exchanging e-mails with isis including one just 24 hours ago. a threatening message saying if she does not help them expose the propaganda to the world, in their words, kenji will be next. she is releasing a new audio recording where she talks about the desperate situation for her and her children. >> i have young daughters. ow speaking out because in her words she fears her husband may not have much time left.

>> let's hope he gets out of there safe and sound. let's hope. will ripley in tokyo, thank you. let's get to other breaking news. news that's driving home the danger of prisoner swaps. cnn has learned new information about one of the taliban detainees the u.s. released in order to win the freedom of beau bergdahl. barbara starr broke the story. she's with us with exclusive details. she's joining us from the pentagon. we know that five taliban prisoners were freed, were released in exchange for beau bergdahl. what are you learning? >> reporter: all five of the men were taken back to the nation of qatar where they are supposed to be under supervision. the u.s. has a classified intercept program to monitor all of their communications cell phone, online whatever it is the u.s. monitors every piece of their communications. a couple of months ago something popped up that indicated one of the men was reaching out

potentially trying to return to some connection with militants. officials are not being specific about this. the notion that his communications were linked to militants has caused concern inside the intelligence community. the issue right now is to determine whether or not there really is a threat here what type of threat how serious it is. one official telling me there is no direct threat. but i have to tell you that at least two other officials, perhaps more senior have said to me directly that there is concern and inside the administration a debate now about what to do how seriously to take this. they are increasing their watchfulness of course about the communications of all of these men. not the first time that released detainees have so-called returned to the battlefield in some fashion. 12 to 15% of all of them,

according to statistics do return to some type of militant activity. the political firestorm for the white house could be considerable. this exchange of course was so controversial when it happened. >> they are making it clear, the administration they want to release more prisoners, right? >> that's right. it couldn't come at a more sensitive time for the white house. they are on a program now to transfer they call it as many of those detainees as they can to other countries overseas who pledge to look after them to monitor them to keep track of them. with the president has made clear, he wants to close gitmo down. the goal people will tell you is to get that prison population down as far as possible. perhaps making it easier in the long run to transfer the few that are left to the u.s. federal prison system. it's a goal of the administration to get as many people out of there, back

overseas under the control of foreign governments as quickly as they can. this was an extraordinarily controversial transfer. >> barbara starr at the pentagon thanks very much. barbara broke that story in "the situation room." let's get more now. joining us a republican senator. thanks for coming in. you heard barbara's report. what do you make of that? what's your reaction when you hear that one of the five taliban prisoners released sent to qatar by the u.s. in exchange for beau bergdahl now may be toying around getting back into the terror game? >> this shouldn't surprise anyone. those of us who are critical of the swap in the first place predicted that this was going to happen. we don't know exactly, but i'm -- i believe it's well above 30%. i heard reports to that effect. if you have -- the people that were released these were five very very bad people.

it wasn't just run of the mill. it was some of the worst that they have there. most everyone who deals with terrorism said these people were going to go back. this is not a surprise. >> because the administration says it's the u.s. policy we don't leave soldiers behind. we do whatever it takes to bring them home. >> and there's certainly no quarrel that we should have brought beau bergdahl home. the bargain was a really really bad bargain, as this administration has shown it gets frequently. those five people should not have been the five that were released do this. there's going to be fallout. there's going to be continued foul fallout from this. it's a problem and could be a future political problem. >> they make the argument the administration that they were ending the war, u.s. troops were pulling out. normally when the u.s. ends a war, there's a p.o.w., prisoner exchange with the other side. that's why this was okay. >> easy argument to make. the problem is just getting out of afghanistan is not ending the

war on terror that we have got going on. unfortunately, that's going to go on for a long time. we have some of the worst actors in the war held in confinement in guantanamo. why any american would say we need to set these free because we know a percentage of them are going to go back and kill americans, why anyone would do that is beyond our comprehension comprehension. >> one of america's best friends in the middle east jordan right now going through a lot of anguish. they have a fighter pilot whose plane went down over syria. he's in the hands of isis assuming he is alive right now. they want him back in jordan. they're willing to release this convicted terrorist, this female want to be suicide bomber as you will that killed 60 jordanians at a wedding at a hotel and hundreds of others injured. is that a good idea? >> i surely wouldn't want to advise jordan what to do.

the king has to make the decisions he has to make based on his population. he is running a palestinian country, if you would. the pilot is from a tribe that is very powerful in jordan. they want him back and should get him back. of course they have a difficult decision with this woman that isis wants released. she is a sister we're told of a fellow who started one of the terrorist organizations that has melded into isis. so that's probably why they are focused on her. >> she was the sister of one of the isis in iraq leaders back in 2005. isis in iraq eventually became isis as we know. they have got their own problems with al qaeda. it would be al qaeda in iraq the original group that became isis. i want you to stand by. there's more to discuss. i know you are well briefed on what's going on. much more with the senator after this.

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quality like this...you can't do that. back with a senator who is a member of the intelligence committee. we're discussing what's going on with the so-called isis prisoner swap. other breaking news we are following right now. this is the president of the united states. this is what he said when he agreed -- i'm sure he personally signed off on the prisoner swap five taliban prisoners in exchange for beau bergdahl. this is what he said then. >> we have confidence that we will be in a position to go after them if in fact they are

engaging in activities that threaten our defenses. >> do you have confidence? >> i have confidence we can go after them. the better statement would have been have i confidence we will go after them. a lot of us were critical -- >> they were handed over to the government of qatar and supposedly the government there was going to watch these five guys. >> i don't have any confidence in that at all. we have done this before. the countries do not have the kind of security that we do. they have lost these guys before. lots of them have gone back to the fight. this was fully predictable. it isn't over yet. there's five all together. >> this is hypothetical i know. let's hope it doesn't happen. the u.s. is launching air strikes against isis in syria and iraq. jordan was one of the partners whose f-16 went down over syria. that's why the jordanian pilot presumably is now in the hands of isis assuming he is still alive. hypothetically let's hope it never happens, a u.s. f-16 goes

down. they capture an american pilot. would you engage in negotiations indirectly with isis to bring that american pilot home? >> i think that almost always administrations do engage in negotiations. frequently, it isn't face to face. frequently, it's through other intermediaries, other countries, other people who would do that. i would think that if we have an american down america will make every effort they can to -- >> even negotiating with a terrorist? >> whether negotiation, whether rescue whatever it is. >> rescue i understand. but making a deal with isis? in other words, releasing isis prisoners in exchange for that american pilot, is that something you think would be wise? >> it depends. obviously, it's going to depend on what they are wanting for the person whether you are able to negotiate a deal that doesn't

have strings attached to it. >> what about paying money for the american pilot? >> again, we have a very strong policy against paying ransom be it for military or for civilians. in fact that's actually helpful to us. isis as you know makes a lot of money from kidnapping. they are more interested in kidnapping people from other countries, particularly european countries. they are very generous and quick to pay ransom. the united states doesn't do that. >> the more they get, the more incentive to kidnap others. let's talk about isis. i know you are well briefed on what's going on. is the u.s. and the coalition partners making headway in degradeing and destroying isis? >> they are making progress. reports are that we have taken a toll on the leadership. if you watch what's going on with the leadership swap right now, this was done in the united states they would call -- >> the isis leadership? >> the isis leadership swap that's going on with jordan and

with japan, whether you call it a swap or potential swap if this was done in the united states you would call it a keystone cops operation. it's horrible what's happening. >> is isis losing right now? we know they lost a town in syria. kurdish fighters have taken over. as far as i know they are still in control of mosul, the second largest city in iraq. the iraqi army ran away as soon as isis came in. >> there are things going on right now as far as taking back that city and others. what they need to do is engage the kurds. the kurds have been very very good. they are fierce fighters. they have been good friends of uses. if you are going to arm somebody engage somebody my vote goes to the kurds. >> is the u.s. arming the kurds? is it going through baghdad? >> it has to go through baghdad, which is very unfortunate.

you know the relationship between baghdad and the kurds is testy at best. >> i know the kurds complain to me about that as well. >> me too. >> they are very good allies. >> thanks very much for coming in. just ahead, what is isis waiting for? why no word on the fate of its hostage hostages? the anger in ferguson missouri reignites in a shoving and shouting match between police and citizens. stand by. recently, a 1954 mercedes-benz grand prix race car made history when it sold for a record price of just under $30 million. and now, another mercedes-benz makes history selling at just over $30,000. and to think this one actually has a surround-sound stereo. the 2015 cla. see your authorized mercedes-benz dealer

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we're following these urgent efforts to save the lives of two isis hostages possibly facing execution at any time. efforts to trade the men for a female terrorist imprisoned in juror jordan appears to have stalled. let's get more. joining us are philip mudd fran townsend and paul. phil the deadline was today. there has been no proof of life that this f-16 fighter pilot is alive. what does that mean to you? >> i think you have to look at this and say, we're going down a road where we don't have much of

a map. the longer we go down this road the more concern you got to become not just about the prisoner swap but, wolf you mentioned the lack of proof of life. you have to transport this lady from jordan if you want to do the transfer. figure out a crossing point that both sides are comfortable with. you have to come up with a protocol where isis says we're sure you are not going to follow us once you do the handoff. as time goes on look at this and say it's not just about whether they can meet the swap in time. it's about whether all the mechanics will fall in place as well. you have to be concerned. >> you certainly do. it's so complicated. it seems like jordan is doing everything to secure the release of the pilot. isis at least so far, hasn't been responsive at all. what is your analysis? what's going on? >> that's right. not only have they not been responsive but they haven't acknowledged the jordanian offer to do a prisoner swap for the pilot. as far as isis is concerned, the

swap on the table is between the japanese hostage and sajida al rishawi. that would be a non-starter from the jordanian point of view. far from clear if any deal with be done here. that's surprising because it would be a big propaganda coup for isis if they could get this woman back. it could suggest, unfortunately, that this jordanian pilot is already dead. >> what do you think, fran? it looks pretty somber right now. >> it does. i was saying last night, without the proof of life you sort of have to wonder if the hostages aren't already dead. the waiting game is in some ways -- it has advantages and disadvantages for isis. the advantage is it keeps attention on them. we're talking about it we're watching and waiting. the disadvantage is all of the things that phil talks about, you give the intelligence services time to set up on what could be a possible transfer. i must tell you on balance, i am

very pessimistic about the fate of the hostages the longer this goes on. >> philip mudd a lot of the analysts said this is a huge win either way for isis. if they get the terrorist back it's a win. if they get ahead -- we hope it doesn't happen they behead the pilot or the japanese journalist they put that out there on social media, that's also a propaganda win for them. what's your analysis? >> sort of. halfway. there's another point that might be a victory for them. if this doesn't work, jordanians have a monarchy. the responsibility in the eyes of the people is to ensure the security of the citizenry. in this case i'm sure there will be questions. there have been by the father of pilot about what responsibility the jordanian government has. one more point long-term. that is you mentioned earlier that isis lost a city.

they will talk about the brutality of isis. terror groups going back fail when they try to transition from terror to government earning. al qaeda is proving with this brutality that they can't get out of sort of the fringe of terrorism and get into the core work of govern he wering. long-term that will turn potential recruits off. >> paul is this a win/win/win situation for isis? they will win in terms of propaganda? >> who are we talking about right now? we're talking about isis. they took ten feet tall. they are negotiating with a major world power, japan, with a major regional power jordan. their followers believe isis is doing everything they can to get back the isis living legend in jail in jordan sajida al rishawi. from their point of view this is certainly a winning strategy perhaps to extend these

negotiations on. of course, it's absolute awful for the families concerned. >> you remember that incident in jordan when those terrorists -- the suicide bombers went into the hotel. it was a beautiful hotel. there was a wedding there. she was there. she had the suicide vest. her partner had a suicide vest. his exploded killing 60 people or so injuring hundreds of others. she tried to let hers go. it didn't function. they captured her. that was an awful situation. were you in the white house at that time? >> i was. i remember working the intelligence and the operations the cooperation between the u.s. and the jordanian governments. we were sharing intelligence real time. it really made us reassess the vulnerability of soft targets. it was really that attack that generated, if you will particularly overseas people not allowing cars to drive up to the entryway of hotels people not loitering in front of hotels or in lobbies.

this was a real seminal event. this suicide bomber that isis is asking for represents the worst of the worst. she's exactly the kind that if released if swapped, she will kill. she will go back and she will kill. >> what do you make of that if she's released? how much of a danger do you think she will be if she winds up in the hands of isis in syria or iraq? >> i think there's a potential danger as fran said. i think the bigger concern is what it gives isis propaganda-wise. it's not just a win in an unprecedented stage in a terror group. negotiating with the jordanians and the japanese. it's a chance for isis to say they are the defenders in a way of traditional values. they brought back a woman at the core of the family in traditional middle eastern society. >> your analysis paul? >> i echo that. it would be a big win for isis.

i don't think they will use her in a terrorist attack. they will roll out the red carpet if she does return and use her in videos moving forward to try and recruit yet more people to come and join their struggle. >> paul, fran phil thanks very much. we have more ahead in "the situation room." the world waits to learn the fate of the two isis hostages. we're staying on top of the story. chaos breaks out at a meeting that was supposed to he's tensions between citizens and police in ferguson missouri. what sparked this wild scene? huh, fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. everybody knows that. well, did you know words really can hurt you? what...? jesse don't go! jesse...no! i'm sorry daisy, but i'm a loner. and a loner gotta be alone. heee yawww!

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police department? you just going to shoot people? is that what you want to do? is that your alternative, pull out your gun? >> excuse me. first of all -- >> that's what i'm talking about [ bleep ]. let's get [ bleep ] here. why don't you get your [ bleep ] here [ bleep ]. you white supremacist [ bleep ]. get out of here. get the [ bleep ] out of here with that [ bleep ]. [ bleep ] you. [ bleep ] you police. you're a piece of [ bleep ]. you're a piece of [ bleep ]. you're a piece of [ bleep ]. get the [ bleep ] out of here. see, that's what you want. that's what you want. st. louis finest. >> let's talk about all of this. joining us are don lemon, john

gaskin sonny hostin. thanks for joining us. john this fight, it's raw, the video we saw. take us back. does it take us back to the moments in november when the grand jury there in missouri decided not to indict the police officer darren wilson also to the days in august following the death of michael brown? what's your analysis of what happened last night? >> wolf what we see in that video is merely a microcosm of the deep racial divide between law enforcement and the african-american community that continues to widen in st. louis city and st. louis county. what i see is really despicable in the video.

it does not help progress. it does not move us in a direction of racial harmony or towards reforms. but i think your viewers should be aware that jeff by no means is certainly not an angel in this particular situation. i think we should all be careful considering that emotions are raw right now regarding optics. with you should be sensitive regarding what we say in the public what we wear that could be inflammatory when you are in an environment like that where emotions are running high. so we don't find ourselves upstaging a situation to cause a situation that we see in this video this afternoon. >> don, i'm anxious to get your reaction to this jarring chant. >> st. louis finest. that's st. louis finest. st. louis pd kkk. how many kids you going to kill today? >> this is at a meeting to try

to ease tensions between police and the local community. what's your reaction when you hear those words thrown at this mrus un police union official? >> any time you call someone a name you lose the argument. it's embarrassing. i wasn't there. i don't know if the cameras caught everything that happened. i don't know who attacked whom. there are people saying he attacks the woman. the woman attacked him. it matters if they will try to prosecute someone. it doesn't matter in the big picture. everyone is loseing the big picture here. it's devolving into this. it's embarrassing to hear what's happening on tape. you don't want to call people names. that's not what this is all about. >> we heard jeff. he said earlier today, like all americans, he has a right to free speech. he believes that the police officer darren wilson he wasn't charged by the grand jury the federal government didn't have

enough evidence the justice department here in washington, to charge him with a civil right violation. he says this guy didn't do anything. why not support him and wear the wristband. >> i think certainly he has the right to wear the wristband. the larger issue is that this meeting was a meeting to call for public commentary about whether or not they should implement a policy and a police review board, a citizen police review board. i've got to tell you, there is clearly a crisis of confidence between communities of color and the police department in ferguson. and in other jurisdictions in missouri. you know it's very clear that these police civilian review boards are an appropriate measure, one of many measures to be able to sort of try to bridge that gap. one can be in favor of police but still be against police brutality. so i'm very surprised that he

was there to take the stance that police review boards are -- civilian police review boards are inappropriate. if you look at the stats, three-fourths of the largest cities in the united states have the review boards. they have been found to be able to ease the tensions to be able to build communities. there's a lot of integrity there in the community for the police review boards. there's a police review board in new york. there's one one in d.c. where i practice. >> didn't he say he was for the review board? he just wanted order in the meeting. i thought he was for the review board. >> no. i mean my understanding is that there were police officers -- the reason this sort of blew up like this is because there were police officers there that were testifying against the need for these civilian -- that debate has been around in law enforcement forever. so as a police union official he was also there. he basically said that he was --

his officers who were not in support of the review boards weren't allowed the same -- given the same respect. >> let me get maria into this conversation. you are a state senator. you saw the video. what was your reaction? >> first of all, i have to tell you, i have known jeff for some years as we have served both in the missouri general assembly. i have to say to your audience i'm pretty sure his behavior last evening and previously is not reflective of the rank and file members of the st. louis metropolitan police department. i will also tell you that there are best practices that most police officers put into place, including deescalation. as a former police officer, jeff while he was terminated for presenting a false report he should know that deescalation is one of the best practices that should be exercised by all

people. again, this is not the first time he has been aggressive. in 2010 he tried to attack the floor leader in the missouri house of representatives. jeff has a lot to answer to his rank and file right now. i really think that he should be dismissed from his position. >> let me get john. the man behind the camera he is an activist records run-ins between ferguson community and police. he was arrested we're told during a protest back in october. this according to local reports. i take it he is the guy who is shouting all the words at jeff. what was his role in all of this? was he simply participating? give us your analysis. >> i can certainly say that type of language does not help things. as i just mentioned, as activists, we have an obligation to carry on the legacy of dr. king. that's in a way that's

non-violent, in a way that's peaceful. you know tensions are running very high emotions are very raw. we should be very conscious of what we're saying. we should not be using slurs towards each other. we should be civil at all times. we should treat individuals in a way that we want to be treat eded especially in a hearing such as that. >> john guys everyone thanks very much. don lemon, sunny, john and maria. a lively meeting last night in st. louis. still ahead -- i want to remind our viewers, don lemon, 10:00 tonight with cnn tonight. still ahead, can a prisoner swap deal be reached in time to save the lives of two isis hostages? more on the breaking news, that's coming up. i have moderate to severe crohn's disease. it's tough, but i've managed. but managing my symptoms was all i was doing. so when i finally told my doctor he said humira is for adults like me who have tried other medications

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some republicans are grumbling that jeb bush is too moderate to be the gop nominee but is he the most conservative bush of all? let's talk about that and more. joining us our cnn chief political analyst and cnn.com senior reporter. thanks for joining us. stephen, you wrote a terrific article explaining that jeb bush's record has governor is a lot more conservative than a lot of people might think. >> we took a look at the two times he spent as governor of florida. we has a pretty conservative record. he used muscular executive power

to enforce solutions on immigration immigration. he took on the teachers unions. what's happened is he left office we seen the rise of the tea party, populous conservatives like sarah palin and ted cruz and some con conservatives don't see him. he's more moderate on immigration reform.

com. i think you'll have to try to get the conservative base and it's mitt romney and jeb bush have now cautioned, you kbts do everything to win the primary because you might win the general election. you know that that's going to be a huge problem. both of them are saying wait a minute, let's not make that same mistake again. i believe it's a sign that republicans have wised up a bit. they have a field that includes a lot of governors with a lot of executive experience and hillary

clinton, briana covers ought to take them seriously because through is not 2012. >> now there's word a formal announcement or an informal announcement she's seeking the democratic presidential nomination may not take place for a few more months. >> that's right. >> whether it's informal or formal the idea that hello hillary clinton is a candidate can be pushed back. what's fascinating is you have for the second time in two months this internal debate over when to launch her campaign coming out to the public you had some folks saying may it should be december, how about january, february. they lost out to the folks who lost me.

s starting to rebound go higher since her presidency or presidential run could be seen as an extension of his time in office. you have people who are saying no get in there now. don't take for granted. >> these charges, mitt romney criticizing her. >> they're saying back yourself against these attacks. unleash the money because you won't have donors who are like throwing money out there on speculation. it speaks to hillary clinton's national inclination. i think she would like to old hauf off. >> she's not going to be crowned. she doesn't have a serious opponent. i believe at some point she has to get in there because the race starting without her. >> she doesn't respond to her critics vocally. from her own mouth as opposed to

surrogates. that might be a problem. >> all of us assume she's going to run. let's say it's a race between her and jeb bush. >> it would be fascinating. the whole drama of the clinton-bush family. it would take the issues dynasty off the table. >> we call it dynasty. >> he's the former governor of florida. that might not necessarily go democratic democratic. >> that might bring some of the battleground states back on the table. >> she needs the fight that another candidate will get and she couldn'tshouldn't be taking have

for granted. >> thanks very much. good discussion. remember you can always follow us on twitter. tweet me at wolf blitzer. be sure to join us tomorrow. you always watch us live or dvr the show so you won't miss a moment. thanks again. erin burnett outfront starts rite now. next breaking news sources telling our barbara starr one of the taliban detainees released for beau bergdahl has attempted to return to militant activity. one father's desperate fight against the growing anti-vaccine movement movement. new details about areair asia flight 8501 crash. we're going to go inside t