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thanks so much for joining us. tomorrow outfront the northeast battered again by snow. a double whammy. the latest on the next big storm. set your dvr "outfront." watch anytime. "ac360" begins now. good evening. thanks for joining us. we begin now with a fight against terrorism. the negotiations now apparently stalled to swap a female terrorist for pair of isis captives. jordanian fighter pilot. an official suspect one of these five taliban guantanamo detainees traded for beau bergdahl attempted to return to militant activity. jim sciutto for us now. let's talk about the possible deal first with jordan and isis. where does that stand? >> reporter: we're nearly se hours past the most recent deadline which was sundown local
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time there and i'm told by officials in jordan that they've been keeping a nervous tense wait for any news either way and they haven't had any news since then either on the good side proof of life. they've been waiting for proof of life for the pilot, not had it through any stage of the negotiation but also haven't had the bad news that everyone is dreading another video showing that the pilot or perhaps the japanese journalist mr. goto have been killed. the more time passes hope dims but they'll keep hope to the final moment. >> jim, the jordanians have been told they need to bring the female terrorist, would-be suicide bomber to the border for some sort of swap. did they do that or are they waiting for proof of life? >> they said from the beginning, they would not make any move close to a deal until they had the proof of life any move including taking her to the border. what was interesting about the latest demand is they asked to take her to the border of syria, so with turkey rather as
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opposed to the jordanian border. take the positive step. they refuse to take that step without proof of life. >> swapped out for beau bergdahl possibly returned to militant activity. that would be potentially significant and to be precise about exactly what this is. is it what it's not. >> reporter: what it is and first reported by barbara starr, one of the five appears on the screen not sure which one, communicated by telephone or by e-mail or chat rooms with a member of the taliban in afghanistan, which, and remember this is being monitored by u.s. intelligence that they caught this communication, which they took as a signal this person was attempting or making arrangements to return to militancy, the person did not go to afghanistan. did not return to the militancy but reached out to take those steps and that's considered in
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violation of the agreement they had with these men while they were held in qatar. >> thank you. joining us with cnn national security security on the cia external advisory boards and dan o'shea hostage group during war and karima banune. what's your sense of how this prisoner swap is or not unfolding? >> you know, anderson we talked about this last night and the fact that there's been no proof of life about the jordanian pilot bodes pretty badly for how this all turns out. the fact is we don't even know if this jordanian pilot was still alive when the negotiations began and as jim sciutto points out, the longer this goes on the less likely it is that there's going to be any swap at all.
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the jordanians were absolutely right not to move her to the point for the swap without the proof of life. it's sort of standard here. there's no doubt they had the operational plans to be able to do it if they got that. they're under tremendous pressure from this very prominent family the jordanian pilot, to make this work if they can but rightly didn't undertake the operation without proof of life. >> the fact there's this public negotiation between jordanne obviously very close u.s. ally and the terror group, isis does that change the equation for how the u.s. and maybe other countries in the region might have to deal with isis down the road? >> this is it's the future. this is so successful they're already winning. they're winning the propaganda battle. besides the obvious facts that the whole world is demanding something be done like james and all these previous islamic snatchings pressure by the government and the families
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we're having these interviews and not the only network focused on that that means they're winning the propaganda battle. that mean they'll milk this for all it's worth and there's no positive signs there's going to be some form of a prisoner swap at this stage. time will tell. >> kareem the fact that the prison in aye cyst is trying to be released is a female terrorist. you believe that's big as far as propaganda moves by isis. >> absolutely. i think they're trying to position themselves quite wrongly as defenders of muslim women. we see images behind bars in jabs with a sthik face. is a woman who participated in a terror attack that killed 60 people clig at bridal party and weddings. i can't imagine anything more against arab culture and seems sympathetically behind bars. we need the women who are victims of isis sexual slavery.
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killed last year for opposing them. >> we had the picture up of her, the significant one of her with the suicide vest. this is a woman who attempted, she failed to kill other people because she wasn't able to detonate her vest correctly. her husband was able to detonate her vest. 57 people were killed in a number of attacks in imam and a number of hotels. karima the jordanian pilot, does having him, whether he's alive or dead does it give isis added leverage in the region? >> absolutely. i think one of the things isis is trying to do here is sort of break up the coalition that has been put together to stand against them. there's increasing opposition in jordan to participating in that coalition and i think if this young pilot is killed that opposition will only increase. what has to happen now is that
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the international community has to stand together. we're seeing demonstrations in tokyo saying i am kenji and demonstrations signs in jordan saying all of us. we have to stand together and beat both of these men. we have to stand with these victims. there has to be a united front against this terrorist group. >> the reporting by cnn that one of the taliban members, we don't know which one swapped for sergeant beau bergdahl is now suspected of trying to return to terrorist activity. i mean that's not to say he's left qatar or back on the battlefield, but what do you make of that that he's attempting to? >> you know, it's interesting, anderson. we don't have the details of that communication as jim described it. and frankly, these guys know they're being monitored. that's not a secret. you have to wonder what that's really about. now, remember, also in qatar, there was a taliban office and so he hardly has to reach all the way back to afghanistan in
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order to make contact. there's a bunch of things about the story as the facts we have so far that raise an awful lot of questions. that said, willi will tell you, it is not surprising to me. these guys were released not because they had seen the light of day and turned themselves around. these guys were released as part of a political deal and a policy decision on part of the administration. i don't think we should be surprised and i think the female suicide bomber while she will be if they could have this swap go forward, she will be lotted and she will be videotaped and there will be all sorts of propaganda that comes out of her. you have to expect somebody like her to go back to the battlefield and kill. >> you have a lot of experience coordinator of the hostage working group in baghdad. when you make a deal you can't control what happens after that. >> well you can predict the future and we're seeing it on display. they're winning. isis is winning by this very discussion. my counterparts are bringing up
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absolutely valid points. rashad will be a hero to the movement. they're breaking the coalition. the jordanians probably the strongest military ally and now be pressured to back out. they need to get out of the air strike campaign and regardless of what happens with the prisoner swap even if it's still on as a possibility, isis is winning. this hostage terrorism works and we're proving it. we can expect more in the future. >> dan o'shea appreciate you being on. you as well. hope it ends well as possible this hostage story is so enormously tragic in part because in some ways it's so unlikely. a japanese man inexplicably drawn to the region another japanese man taken captive trying to report his story, would-be killer, terrorist alive to be part of it all because the suicide bomb didn't detonate jordanian pilot by isis that is
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trailed back to another. fascinating, more than a little sad to see how they became part of this terrible drama. take a look. >> reporter: the prisoner swap story really begins here in iman jordan in 2005. these hotels torn apart by suicide bombers. in this one, a wedding reception was under way. this photo taken moments before the bride and groom seriously injured and both fathers killed. in all, 57 people were killed in the three attacks. two of the bombers were husband and wife. the wife survived. my husband detonated his bomb he said and i tried to set off mine but failed. she had been sent by al qaeda in iraq the group that would morph into isis. she's been on death row in jordan ever since. in october last year japanese journalist kenji goto traveled to syria in part to investigate
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the capture by isis of another japanese man named hiruna hiruna katowa. appears to be holding his headless body. broke her silence in a statement. >> i beg the jordanian and japanese government to understand that the fates of both men are in their hands. >> reporter: he was involved in air strikes against the islamic state in northern syria when he crashed his plane. his captors released this half naked picture of him surrounded by militants. three people from three very different places now part of the same very dangerous story. up next we're going to learn who was flying airasia flight 8501 and what the crew was hearing in the moments before it
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the airbus a-320. with ample experience, was flying it when things went wrong. from air aviation correspondent rene marsh. >> reporter: indonesian investigators say the copilot, 46-year-old remi manuel plasel while monitored the dpliegt. >> should have been enough time to make him capable of handling most emergencies, but this looks like it may have been an extreme emergency. >> reporter: flew airasia for three years and more than 2,000 hours in the a-320 but the captain had more than 6,000 hours, and ten years flying for the military. one indonesian crash investigator used a model airbus a-320 to demonstrate how they believe things unravelled in three minutes and 20 seconds.
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according to indonesian authorities, flight 8501 cruised at 32,000 feet when it veered left tilted to the side wobbled and then climbed to 37,400 feet in just 30 seconds. the stall warnings which sound like this were blaring and then suddenly the aircraft began to fall. once below 24,000 feet, the plane disappeared from radar. alan deal is a former ntsb crash investigator. >> the fact that the aircraft was wobbling could be due to one of two things. one, the automation was shutting down and now they were having to take over and fly manually or two, the actual turbulence was inducing g-force movements in the pilot's hand on the control stick causing the wobbling to get worse. >> reporter: investigators say the crew was properly certified and the plane had no history of problems. despite the indonesian
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military's withdrawal from the search, the hunt for the 90 bodies still missing will continue. well investigators have submitted the preliminary report but they would not release it at today's briefing and it's unclear if and when they will. this could just be the investigators being very careful because this is a preliminary report and the facts could change. now, as it relates to the pilots it is not uncommon for the copilot to be at the controls. they oftentimes take turns. rene marsh, cnn washington. >> clues, no answers and better ideas of the questions investigators have been asking is david soucie. the pilot actually flying the plane, does that mean anything to you? the copilot often at controls, right? >> yes as rene said copilot is often at the controls. you want to make sure especially junior copilots have more time at the controls so that they have the experience to move into
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a more senior position later. so it's not uncommon at all that that would occur. >> in an emergency situation with the copilot flying it does the pilot step in take control? >> no you would think that he might, but in fact in cockpit resource management which is what's been really focused on by the faa over the last ten years, the point is they need to keep their head in what they're doing, so in emergency situation, the copilot would have continued. the pilot would have been assessing the situation, looking for other alternatives what choices do they have how can they respond to what's going on and that's more what the pilot would be focuses on at that time. >> when you hear a stall warning, and the stall warnings going off, this may be a dumb question does that automatically mean the plane is definitely in a stall? >> well, there's a couple of phases of the stall warning. until you get a stick shaker other indications from it but
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it's quite alarming obviously, when that goes off as you heard in rene marsh's piece. it's loud and it warns you and you know what's going on. there's no question about it. if you don't take immediate action right away, you're stuck in a situation you can't get out of. so you do react to it right away. this is a little bit per flexplexing to me how the wobbling went before the air climb. that's interesting to find out, certainly what happened in that scenario. >> why would a plane climb almost 6,000 feet in 30 seconds? >> well really it was only 3,000 feet in 60 seconds but if you do that up for a minute it's 6,000 feet per minute. that's how the calculations work on that anderson but nonetheless, it's very fast. an air show you watch a fighter jet come through and take that steep climb, that's only about, that's about 3,000 feet per minute. 3500 feet per minute. this was very very fast very, very steep. the aircraft isn't capable of
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doing that on its own without completely stalling and all the air speak converts into a stall and comes down without any wind over the wings. it has no chance of flying. >> i mean, but why would somebody do that, to avoid a weather system or just it's not something that should be done at all? >> no it's not something that should be done. in fact, i have a question as to whether the pilot induced the climb at all. in the situation he was in when you have thunderstorms building this way, backside of that thunderstorm comes around behind the aircraft, so you have a tailwind as soon as the aircraft hits the upslope, the wind shear, that speed of the air changes significantly, it could very well be that caused the aircraft to climb very steeply and very quickly in putting it into a stall at that point. >> interesting. david soucie appreciate your expertise. just ahead tonight from nfl superstar to murder defendant, what jurors heard on day one of
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in massachusetts today, former nfl super star aaron hernandez went on trial for murder days before his team returned to the super bowl hernandez on the 2012 super bowl when the patriots lost to the giants. 16 months later, dropped the tight end after he was arrested in the shooting death of a 27-year-old man, odin lloyd, a semiprofessional football player daytoning dating the sister of hernandez's fiance. both men there for opening statements. susan candiotti reports. >> reporter: in opening statements lawyers for aaron hernandez cut to the chase, asking what so many fans of the former star patriot want so badly to know. >>
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>> but prosecutors accuse hernandez of orchestrating odin lloyd's murder shot six times in an industrial park. codefendants ernest wallace and carlos ortiz pleaded not guilty and are being tried separately. >> shot six times. he was killed. >> reporter: the gruesome details and crime scene poe toes too painful for lloyd's mother, who breaks down in tears briefly leaving the courtroom. next to shaniya jenkins, shia nah, engaged to hernandez sifts with his mother. sisters with split loyalties. shown getting into a car with hernandez, lloyd, and ortiz.
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taken by hernandez multicamera home security system. allegedly minutes after lloyd's murder. in his hands they say, the suspected murder weapon that's never been found. >> they'll tell you, ladies and gentlemen, that that appearance is unique. that means guilty. >> reporter: as hernandez rocks side to side in his chair, defense lawyers fight back. suggesting to jurors that the object might be an iphone or ipad and asking if hernandez committed murder why does that video still exist? >> the evidence will show that aaron hernandez wanted to destroy the recordings on that video system he could have. >> reporter: defense attorneys say hernandez would pay lloyd to buy him marijuana. >> odin was known as.
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>> reporter: cnn obtained this showing blunts made by lloyd for hernandez. a joint found next to lloyd's body something prosecutors say links the victim and his alleged killer. >> that joint is later analyzed and determined to have odin lloyd's dna. >> reporter: by law, prosecutors don't have to provide a motive but they hinted at one claiming hernandez was angry at lloyd over an argument at a club two nights earlier. but defense attorneys say it's not true. >> ladies and gentlemen, the evidence will show there was no reason. there was no motive. aaron hernandez is not murderous to odin lloyd. >> susan candiotti with us now. she was in the courtroom all day. what was the dynamic between the victim's family and hernandez's family? >> reporter: anderson it's
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fascinating to watch. in particular you have two sisters sitting on opposite sides of the courtroom. on the one hand, shiana jenkins, the fiance of aaron hernandez. and odin lloyd, dating the victim in this case sitting next to odin lloyd's mother. it's very, almost uncomfortable to watch and certainly must be awful for them too. >> susan, appreciate you being there. in their opening statement, the defense argue the police targeted hernandez because of his celebrity. the question is, will jurors buy that theory? joining me now, criminal defense attorney mark geragos. you defended certainly a lot of celebrities. how does it change things? the fact someone's famous does it make it easier or harder to defend them? >> i always think that there's a difference. i think you get a presumption of innocence if you're famous. if you're infamous you don't. you get a presumption of guilt.
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in this case he's famous. i think he gets a presumption of innocence. there's a predominantly female jury i think that works to his benefit as well and this is almost an entirely circumstantial evidence case. while jurors say that can be as good as direct evidence the problem for the prosecution in this case is there is no literally no smoking gun, no confession. they have to piece this together and overcome the idea that why would he have murdered this guy? kind of splintered the family apart and i think today when you saw the opening statements, the cop trast contrast in styles was immense. i think the defense put it to the jury and did a very remarkable presentation. >> it's interesting though guys. we reported last night a number of things that appear to be damning evidence several months ago when he was first charged,
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disallowed by the judge a text message that odin sent shortly before he was killed saying nfl, that he was with nfl. that's basically been disallowed by the judge. >> right, both was and she made the right decision, her honor did. it's hearsay. there's no evidence this is a dying declaration because clearly it wasn't. that stays out. the prosecution wanted to kind of further demonize him, if you will, by talking about the other two crimes he was charged with. that's disallowed. the jury will be focused on the laser on this crime, did he commit this crime and i don't think there's going to be a side show in terms of other stuff that's irrelevant to the judge's excluded. >> you said a lot in the past the case is won and lost in jury selection. you pointed out the majority of jurors are women on this case. why do you think in your opinion
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works to hernandez's favor? >> well the idea that you've got an nfl football player and i think people think, you'll want nfl football fans things of that nature it's kind of counterintuitive. i think here you've got a, by all accounts a presentable good looking defendant who's getting a good defense, who is famous and you have basically grasping at straws for motive. i think depending on the female you hate to make generalizations but i think that plays to a predominantly female jury. i think at this point, it's really the prosecution that has the uphill battle which is, you know not always the case as you well know. >> this may be a dumb question but does an attractive witness, does that impact things? can that? i guess it must. >> absolutely. it's not a dumb question at all. there's study after study that will talk about whether somebody is attractive and how jurors
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percentagewise will end up believing that person more except the one time that doesn't play out, as if you've got an attractive female defendant, families are usually deaf on that. but other than that with witnesses, attractive presentable witnesses who are more like us and us being the jury that's they can relate to that's significant. >> interesting. mark geragos, thanks as always. just ahead, the new york times blow on police with his way home from the yails library and nearly levels a maternity hospital. how many may have been trapped in the rubble. details on that ahead. just take a closer look. it works how you want to work. with a fidelity investment professional... or managing your investments on your own. helping you find new ways to plan for retirement. and save on taxes where you can. so you can invest in the life that
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louis last night in a public meeting to discuss the creation of a civilian-run police oversight board. the packed room erupted after the business manager of the police union, the woman appeared to get into a shoving match. tensions obviously still running high in the wake of the michael barren shooting. that was meant to smooth relations with the community and the police in the wake of police shootings of young african-american men, one of the most illuminating voices was charles blow who talked a lot on this program for fear of his son's safety. last sunday, his fears appeared
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to come true. he was walking from the library when a campus police officer stopped him at gunpoint. he did told by the police officer, got on the ground hands raised. he fit the description of a burglary suspect and went back to his dorm safely eventually. here's what charles wrote in his column. this is the scenario i've always dreaded. my son at the wrong end of the gun barrel on the concrete. what if he panicked under stress had i come close to losing him? triggers cannot be unpulled bullets cannot be called back. i'm reminded of what i have always known, but what some would choose to deny that there is no way to work your way out, earn your way out of this sort of cry sits. in these moments what you've done matters less than how you look. yale wrote, detained in the vicinity of a reported crime and closely matched the physical description including items of clothing of the suspect even though the officer's decision to stop and detain the student was
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reasonable the fact he drew this weapon requires a careful review. charles blow joins me tonight. when your son called you, told you what happened what went through your mind? >> make sure he's okay physically and psychologically. he was shaken. i could tell in his voice he was shaken and i was trying to make him feel better. try to stabilize him because i couldn't get there, but i was trying to make sure he was okay first and let him tell me his story. >> because you and i have talked so often on this program on conversations you've had with her son. i'm wondering if that ran through your mind the conversations you've had. you said you're glad you had the conversations, upset he had to utilize some of them. >> when he told he what he did in response i realized that he had done all the right things. and, you know, part of you is
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happy that he remembers and he did it properly and followed the script. and part of you is incredibly sad that he would have to use it. in the back of your mind you're hoping against hope you'll never have to use the advice and then he had to use it. >> does the fact that the police officer involved was african-american? does that change at the equation in your mind in any way? >> it doesn't for me because we have the conversations with our kids, we don't say if you run into a white police officer, behave like this and this and a black police officer, you don't have to worry about that. do whatever you want to do jam your hands, jump around and talk back. we talk about the police in general. and i am very happy that when he turned around and saw whoever was with the gun he didn't behave any differently. he saw a difference and an officer and he followed the very same script. you know a bullet doesn't know
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the color of the finger that pulls the trigger. it doesn't care. bullets don't have emotions they have directions. i think we as parents have to remember that it's not so clearly delineated in terms of who your kid might run into as an officer. >> do you believe race played a role even though the officer was african-american, do you believe race played a role? you've come under criticism of some conservative sites, a race hoax. you didn't mention the officer was african-american. >> in my argument, because i've been writing about this for years now and i have stopped, almost altogether mentioned race. >> is that conscious? >> it was a conscious decision on my part and i tell you what it became more and more clear to
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me that it was more about culture of the police officers dealing with these young black men than individual officers dealing with these young black men. to me it started building up like this is bigger than just them. i started to just not like a crusade but my own comfort to say, i don't need to mention these races. >> because you believe there's sort of a police culture which views young men of color differently. >> well i believe that the data says that these young men of color are being treated differently and i don't know what it is about the culture in the police departments that is creating that dynamic but there's something at play there. so i just started on my own to just stop doing it. >> i want to read you something that yale university put out a statement saying in part what happened on cross campus is not a replay of what happened in ferguson staten island cleveland or so many other places in our time in the united
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states. to that what do you say? >> i'm very happy the police chief and dean called and were very apologetic and since then the police officer called my son and was apologetic. i think that goes a long way that ferguson did not go. he could see this as a human being. he was being apologetic about something, my son was able to ask him, why did you draw the gun? he said couldn't get into a lot of details because it's an ongoing investigation, but he was able to talk to him like an actual human being. >> the yale police department, they're also conducting an investigation. they're saying the fact that the officer drew his weapon during the stop requires a careful review. >> everything that happened there, other than the gun pulling, i would have been perfectly okay with him. stand to the side until you figure out, make sure it's not him. i think he would have appreciated that. it's the kind of that use of
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force and used that quickly without even asking a question knowing that asking whether or not he would kind of willingly submit that was the problem. and what i'm hoping will come of this i got the impression from the dean and the chief of police that this was not standard operating procedure, i'm hoping that investigation will lead to that being explicit and that i will never have to worry again about anybody else's kid having a gun pulled on them when they're leaving a library. >> charles blow i appreciate you talking to us. the new york times. just ahead, they have barely put this behind them and now new england being told to brace for another winter storm. how bad is it this time? plus protesters swarm henry kiisen jer and senator john mccain lashing back with choice words. we'll have that ahead. [ male announcer ] whether it takes 200,000 parts ♪ ♪ 800,000 hours of supercomputing time 3 million
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for that, we go to chad myers. what should the northeast expect chad? >> not what we had on monday. it's nice to be inside. that was a cold storm. this is a small one but there's another one behind it. so about three to four inches for boston. portland maine and into nova scotia. that's the area really hit with this storm. here's the snow right now. even an inch or so in new york city could make slick spots on the streets but you don't see an organized pattern of heavy snow. kind of a fluffy snow that's going right on by. that's the winter storm warning area though. so for parts of new hampshire down to glauser and all of maine and significant snow in nova scotia. as it hits the atlantic it will do the same thing as it did on monday. bow out, trying to make a nor'easter but because of the position here not here farther
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to the north. maine, nova scotia a bunch of snow for you. winds 50 to 60 miles per hour. what boston will see, probably around two to four inches on up farther to the north. you see the bombs, that's two or three feet of snow up to nova scotia. there's boston somewhere between four and six ant euro. 2 to 4 to the gfs and we looked at all of these last week. portland maine, you can be the winner or the loser. that's about it. >> all over the map there. the storm on the horizon though for early next week, how bad? >> you know where it's starting? it's starting on saturday on super bowl party day, i guess, here in the west. rain in flagstaff, rain in phoenix and snow in the mountains, gets its act together and runs across the country. i think we get to d.c., this is a d.c. storm for now. i understand we're five days
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away i reserve the right to change my mind on its location but the bull's eye looks like d.c. it could be 100 miles farther north. you look at new york again and this is a 6 inch snowfall. >> chad you're starting to party for super bowl on saturday? >> yes, i don't get to watch the bowl. >> there's a lot more happening tonight. amara walker has a 360 news brief. >> reporter: three dead after a shooting at kabul's airport. u.s. military officials say it's looking like an insider attack but under investigation. a gas explosion at maternity hospital near mexico city caught on camera. 2 people dead and 62 injured. most of the hospital left in ruins. officials fear babies and mothers could still be trapped in the rubble. the mayor said it seems a gas deliver truck malfunctioned causing a leak and then the explosion. on capitol hill protesters
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interrupted a senate hearing featuring henry kissinger and call for the former secretary of state to be arrested for war crimes. senator john mccain blasted the demonstration. >> you're going to have to shut up or i'm going to have you arrested. if we can't get the capitol hill police in here immediately, get out of here you low life scum. >> new york city firefighters rescued a boy who wandered on to the frozen bronx river. reportedly a girl with him who fell through the ice into the water but managed to get herself out before firefighters arrived. >> wow, scary stuff. amara, thank you very much. the ridiculist is next. going to make you smile.
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and the story of a young man pulled over by the police in cobb county georgia. citation no big deal. happens all the time but wasn't speeding didn't make illegal turn not texting, not a burned out taillight. indulging in excessive deliciousness. >> officer. explain to me that he had observed me eating a burger for
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about two miles. >> that's right. the guy was doing more than driving under the influence of a double quarter pounder with cheese. remember this is in cobb county. you would think a place that shares its name with a delicious salad would be more lenient in food policies but alas you would be mistaken. >> even though i was not exceeding the speed limit or driving erratically, he said you can't just drive down the road eating a hamburger. >> that's news to me. if eating while driving strikes you as an unusual thing to get pulled over especially in the united states of drive-throughs you're not alone. affiliate wsb spoke with experienced traffic and dui attorney who couldn't sink his teeth into the concept either. >>no accident so the man this man was charged with eating and driving is a first. if this was the law, i would hire more attorneys because everybody does it including me.
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>> reporter: georgia law does not explicitly ban eating while driving but has a vague provision that would apply here. senior legal analyst and supreme court expert jeffrey toobin. >> here's what the georgia law says. a driver shall not engage in any actions which shall distract such driver from the safe operation of a vehicle. so as far as i'm concerned, it comes down to what food. spaghetti, problem. salad, big problem. anything with rice, an even bigger problem. but a burger? that's not a big deal. you could eat a burger you can drive too, but the problem, of course would be if anything unexpected happened but hey, some people can just do it all. >> jeffrey toobin can do it all. that's pretty much case closed. the guy has a court date next week. sir, feel free to use the
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previous clip as exhibit a. just in case we suggest eating lunch before you leave for court because you never know when the food police are in hot pursuit. >> hey, america. where would you like to spend your hard earned wages? the mall a new car, how about the doctor's office or a hospital? we americans spend more on our health care than any other country in the world, but at least that means we have the best health care right? well not necessarily. u.s. health care is complicated and expensive. even if you have
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