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call 1800 xfinity or visit comcast.com/xfinityhome. you're in the cnn newsroom. i'm poppy harlow in new york. 7:00 eastern and a lot of breaking news to get to. we have an update in the horrific development of a hostage situation overseas. all hopes that this man is still alive have been dashed. he is a 47-year-old journalist named kenji goto captured by isis who has claimed to have beheaded him. the group released a graphic
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video which appears to show all of that. reaction from the japanese government, outrage. reaction from the white house, solidarity with japan. president obama expressing solidarity with japan, issuing a strong message for those islamic extremists. part of the statement reads, the united states condemns the heinous murder of kenji goto by the terrorist group isil. the president says standing together with a broad coalition of allies and partners the united states will continue to take decisive action to degrade and ultimately destroy isil. let's go to will ripley who joins us live in tokyo. you have been covering this from the beginning. there was a lot of hope hope that potentially a prisoner exchange would work to mean that this journalist could be released. what is the reaction in the early morning hours there from the japanese citizens about the clear and brutal murder of this
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journalist that so many have grown to love there? >> reporter: absolutely poppy. shock is one emotion that a lot of people are feeling. even though this wasn't a surprise and many people had feared that this was coming especially as the negotiations for a prison swap in exchange for kenji goto seemed to fall apart in jordan even after the latest deadline passed and there was ominous silence from isis which as we've seen over the last week usually that silence is followed by another video, another social media post because that is how, unfortunately, the world learning about what this terror group's movements are, given the fact that japan has had no direct line of communication, but that didn't change the fact that when this video was posted shock, disgust, sadness, anger, all things that people here in japan are feeling right now. and also they're proud of kenji
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goto for his courage and his dignity up until the very end. he is not going to be remembered for the cowardly acts of these heinous murderers. he will be remembered for the way that he lived his life, the way that he reported with compassion and the way that he loved his family his wife and his two young daughters. >> i know prime minister abbe did make a statement a little while ago. what was his message? >> his message was of course first of all his thoughts with kenji goto's family outrage over the actions of isis and determination that japan will continue to push forward with its support of the coalition against isis. japan has taken a very public stance that it is going to join the united states and britain and all of the allies jordan in the fight against this terror group. japan's military is bound by its constitution not to act in any manner other than self-defense so the way that japan is
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contributing is through funding, $200 million to help humanitarian aid, the syrian and iraqi refugees and jordan and elsewhere who need the funds. japan is going to continue its support and push ahead. >> will ripley live for us in tokyo where it is sunday morning and people are waking up to this tragic news. our guest is a national security analyst and former isn'tassistant of homeland security and michael weis. former fbi said to me he thinks the united states is losing the propaganda war against isis. do you agree? >> i think it's very hard to win a propaganda war when the images coming from isis are essentially byeeheadings beheadings. they've had a week of free press between the jordanian pilot and
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the japanese reporter. we give it to them for obvious reasons. everyone gives it to them and that's very hard to combat through social media, through regular media. all we really have is statements like we condemn this action. >> but the u.s. came out within the last ten days or so and said look we have killed some 6,000 -- coalition forces have killed some 6,000 isis fighters. i know there are security limitations so what we can show but should we be showing more of these wins? >> the wins are hard to show because it's the battlefield and the battle ground and most of them are aerial killings but we would have to prove to potential converts to isis that killing 6,000 doesn't breed another 12,000 more. so that's why people like everyone you have on here talks about we just have to take the longview view here this is not going to be a decisive battle ground victory for either us or isis. it is going to be a long term
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propaganda campaign military campaign intelligence campaign and a campaign about essentially the heart and soul of the middle east. >> michael weis you just penned a book on this. can you speak to the difference for the united states in fighting isis versus fighting other dictators versus fighting al qaeda for example? what is the difference? >> well isis operates at both the conventional and the unconventional guerrilla military level. technically they were al qaeda and iraq until a cleavage with that organization or with the al qaeda franchise a year ago. let me give you an example though. the u.s. has brought a lot of aerial bombardment on this organization over the 11 years we've technically been at war with it. the second battle of fallujah in 2004 i forgot how many mega tons of bombs we dropped on that city. within a week of major combat operations they had already set
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up shop in mosul making that their operational headquarters. after that battle it was true that u.s. and iraqi forces regained fallujah. osama bin laden who was affiliated and was a spokesman for the international organization said this is a propaganda victory. even though we lost the city, we bled the super power in it and we managed to make them the perpetrators of these war crimes and atrocities. a strictly aerial based campaign against isis is going to do exactly that. a state department official asked me what can we do to counteract the propaganda narrative. i said the u.s. is seen in league with iran, even though this isn't technically true. seen with iran and with groups committing ethnic cleansing.
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>> do you agree obviously regarding ail bag datay as the head of the state that believes that they are spreading across iraq and syria and as far as they can go to build what they would like people to deem as a substantial government? >> i think it's hard to deny that it's not simply that they're successful in the bye headings headings but they have gained a lot of ground. it's a coalition and also arab states. there's no messaging that's going to overcome beheadings. we're going to get caught until we sort of get -- i have to say until we stop paying attention which we will never do this is just going to continue. >> can it be won from the air,
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do you believe with these air strikes? >> i believe we can put a significant dent in isis by air. i also believe that we gain nothing from going in on ground but others will. >> you mean neighbors? >> right, neighbors. there's nothing inconsistent with that. we have an incredible air force and air power, and it has done a lot to disrupt isis but we're not going to send in -- we ought not send in troops we saw what happened in iraq. >> who's going to then? >> it might be the turks or other coalition advocates. no one's willing to do it because of the lessen -- lesson of iraq. a lot of it is defense and a lot is offense from the air. >> it's tragic and you wonder how many more lives need to be taken and we still have at least three known hostages being held by isis. thank you, we'll be back in just a moment with more of our breaking news straight ahead.
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we are also continuing to cover breaking news here in the united states. this hour the daughter of the late singer whitney houston found unresponsive and face down in a bathtub full of water. this is a disturbing echo of her mother's tragic death nearly three years ago. 21-year-old bobbi kristina brown is houston's only child. brown was not breathing when her
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husband and friend discovered her this morning at her home near atlanta. her mother whitney houston, died in a bathtub at the beverley hilton in february of 2012. let's go straight to nick outside the hospital where she's being treated. do we know how she's doing? >> reporter: good evening, poppy. according to police she is alive at this hour and breathing. what is unclear though is if she's breathing on her own or perhaps with the help of a hospital respirator. as you mentioned, she was found at 10:30 this morning in her roswell residents by her husband and a friend. her husband told police she was face down in that bathtub, we don't know for how long she was in that position or how long she had been in the tub prior to that. police also did say that initially they did a sweep of the arrestresidence to see if there were signs of drugs or alcohol. the police told me there was no obvious or clear indication that that played a factor but
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investigators are still on the scene as early as an an hour they were still conducting search warrants there. i asked her why the search warrants. she told me this is standard operating procedure any time they enter someone's residence, they have a fourth amendment right to get that search warrant so there's not much to look into there. but police tell me at this point, poppy, they're treating it as a medical incident. >> right. and nick obviously we have to address what has been a lot of speculation about any potential drug alcohol abuse. nothing confirmed obviously and we don't want to jump to any conclusions here. in fact i know that you were just talking to someone who had a lot to say about how she was working to turn her life around and working on how to really get through the loss of her mother who she was incredibly, incredibly close to. >> reporter: yeah and her supporters are hoping that this is just a really bizarre coincidence. but i did speak to an editor at
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"people" magazine who told me that when people mention bobbi kristina brown and her family, they're synonymous with alcohol dependance. this editor said there were concerns after she inherited a large sum of money after her mother's death how that was going to play a factor in her life. if you look at her social media pages, her instagram account, her twitter account, there were signs that she was changing her life towards the positive that she was back to working out, that she was talking about living a healthier life-style and perhaps even resurrecting an acting career. this, of course, though is eerily familiar to the situation that her mother was found in. right now though her supporters family friends, hoping the best for her, and we should reiterate that bobbi kristina brown, the 21-year-old is alive and breathing at this hour. it's unclear how well she's doing. poppy? >> we hope she's doing as well
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as can be expected. thank you for that. meantime a battle is under way for the key city in the fight against isis. we're talking about kirit cook. it is critical in this fighting huge source of oil. we're going to take you there next with someone who has been on the front lines and seen the battle playing out first hand. that's next after a quick break. it's time to find someplace new. book the hotel you want with the flight you want and we'll find the savings to get you there. i love... listening to intriguing sounds when i drift off into my dreams. others might? ♪ ♪
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looking now at the military operations against isis something major has developed over the past few days. the extremist militant group now admitting that coalition air strikes were too much for them to handle. also they gave up trying to control a strategic city. we're talking about kobani.
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a lot of attention paid to it there on the turkish/syrian border. this triggered months of ground fighting aimed at driving the extremists out. today isis no longer remains in kobani even though they're still fighting. it's the first time that the isis fighters have admitted that they were frankly, outgunned. >> i swear by god, their planes did not leave the air day and night. they did air strikes all day and night. they targeted everything. they even attacked motorcycles. they haven't left a building standing but by god willing, we will return and we will have our revenge multiplied. >> isis though clearly not backing down. one day ago isis launched an assault on kirkuk a major, major oil city in iraq. joining me now journalist matt wolf from kirkuk. he served two deployments to
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iraq from 2007 to 2009. thank you for being with us and thank you for your service, matt. >> thank you for having me, poppy. >> you were on the front lines earlier today. can you describe to us what you saw? >> yes, i can. we arrived, my team and i, arrived down there this afternoon at approximately noon so a little before afternoon. it appeared that forces were preparing some kind of offensive. what they told us is that they had for the most part driven the initial isis pushes from the day before and they even showed us some bodies they had of isis fighters piled up in the field. they said they were going to push on the village slightly to the south of kirkuk and with tanks and coalition air support they made that move approximately 600 soldiers backed by like i said, some tanks, anti-aircraft, guns
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heavy artillery, things of that nature. >> matt can you talk to us about the strategic importance of kirkuk? we just talked about kobani which was so strategically important there right on the syria/turkey border. looking at kirkuk outside of being a major region for oil production why else is it strategically important? >> to control kirkuk if you were in fact to control kirkuk you would have free access to the kurdish capital of ir beale. the oil is a major factor as well but almost not quite equal distance but kirkuk is between ir beale and baghdad. >> of course we've seen isis in the past six months taking control of some major oil fields and selling some of that oil on
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the black market adding to the vast wealth that has helped energize and carry on isis as a broader organization. you personally you are a former marine and out there now frankly risking your own life to report these stories. we just heard of another journalist kenji goto being beheaded by isis. do you fear for our own life on the front lines, matt? >> today's fighting was quite intense, but the kurdish forces seemed in control of the situation. i know the reports and i wasn't there two days ago to be fair but i know the reports were that they had taken up somewhat of a defensive position. today from what i saw, they were almost entirely on offense, and there was coalition air support as well that was coming in quite heavy. the kurdish forces on the ground were very appreciative of that. they definitely cheered and gave a lot of shouts when the planes
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would pass by. are there dangers? there are dangers. there was at least one close call with a mortar strike today but from what i can tell none of the team was killed or the journalists were affected either. it was a close call but we came out okay. ieds's things of that nature have been an issue. isis controlled the territory we were in just the night before and the tactic is that they're going to succeed with as many explosives as they can. the forces are on the lookout for that. one of the vehicles that was behind us actually struck one of those ieds so theoretically, that's territory we had covered maybe an hour before. >> wow. matt stay safe to you and everyone you are on the ground with there. thank you for your reporting, thank you for your service, and stay safe. >> thank you, poppy.
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news in the case of a japanese hostage formerly held by isis. isis releasing a video this afternoon which appears to show the beheading of journalist kenji goto. he and a captured jordanian pilot had been at the center of a prisoner swap with jordan. the fate of the pilot still unclear at this hour. president obama issuing a statement a few moments ago that reads in part the united states condemns the murder of kenji goto by isil. our thoughts are with mr. goto and his family. we stand in solidarity with the japanese people in denouncing this act. standing in coalition of allies and partners the united states will continue taking decisive
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action to degrade and ultimately destroy isil. let's talk to the author of isis and the army of terror. also i'm joined by national security analyst and former assistant secretary of homeland security. julia, what do you believe is is is truly getting out of these beheadings beheadings? >> a tremendous amount of focus by all of us. i don't want to say sympathy but sort of an awe about what they are willing and able to do. they essentially got a week of free media, between the jordanian pilot and whether there was going to be a hostage brokering and then of course the death of kenji today. so they keep themselves relevant. it's not only good for them in terms of it shows they have strength but also in terms of the battle lines between isis isil and al qaeda. we're not talking about al qaeda anymore. it is nonstop isis. that is good for them in terms of recruitment, in terms of
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money, and in terms of their capacity to build up a strong terrorist organization that's gaining ground significantly in the middle east. >> some have been saying michael, that it was no longer really a battle between isis and al qaeda as we've been seeing especially in the arabian peninsula and they were working more together. do you believe that? >> there's been some tactical cooperation since the coalition got started. the official al qaeda franchise in syria, it's true that they've received some isis supplies and material in their battle mostly against mainstream western rebels. however, i think too much is made of this. >> you see what juliette is saying in terms of them saying look at our successes, come work with us recruiting other fanatics? >> look. what we saw in paris, the massacre of the "charlie hebdo" journalist and followed by the kosher market butchery.
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this is isis and al qaeda trying to one up each other. you make an excellent point the jordanian pilot can be seen as we've stolen your thunder, al qaeda. this is us now, we're the concern. >> the bar to entry is quite low. if you are someone interested in fighting for what they believe in you're going to go to the most popular group. i put that in quotes. the one that seems the strongest, the one that seems to be winning, the one that's in the news all the time. that's not al qaeda anymore. that's isis. >> on that front, juliette if you could, you were formerly with the homeland security. the united states the state department, has talked about even using social media to try to fight their own propaganda war against all of these images but can the u.s. do that successfully and how important is it that we do so that we prevent these lone wolf attacks, these home grown terror people
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that do not need to cross over the ocean to go be trained physically by isis? >> i think we have to view the strategy as both offense so you want to get messages out. you want to stop people from recruitment. you want to get other people out, maybe not u.s. citizens or the u.s. government but other validating peace and calm in the middle east. then it's clearly going to be some defense which is from the homeland perspective, from the protection of the troops perspective. we are going to have to anticipate that given the number of people who are radicalized someone is going to get through. as we saw in paris and have seen elsewhere, we have to sort of brace ourselves and from the homeland security front, be prepared to respond and react. >> michael weis quickly before we get to break, you just wrote this book all about isis inside the army of terror. what is the most effective way for the west to fight isis? >> you cannot defeat sunni jihadism without sunnis turning
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against them. >> it's a political shift that's needed? >> yes. the perception is the united states as i said earlier is in league with iran complicit in the genocide against sunnis. that's the worst case scenario. the best case scenario is sunni tribes in iraq why should we rise up. if we rise up against isis we'll be slaughtered. rather cut a deal with them. isis is propaganda. if you were part of the awakening councils they give you two choices, death or submission and repen tans. they have mass rallies, tearing up their security force badges and saying we apologize. >> this has been a problem in iraq for a long time this argument that we need a much more inclusive government and you're saying this is key in all of it as many air strikes as you launch you're not going to win unless the sunnis feel included. >> exactly. >> we have to view the effort against isis and isil and even al qaeda as a delayed or disrupted attack or a strength
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by the terrorist organization is a victory. there's going to be no decisive victory so the aerial bombardment causes short term disruption so you have intelligence agents coming in and find ways in which they're not playing, we used to say in homeland security a delayed attack is a win. >> juliette michael, thank you both. meantime the biggest target for terrorists sits in arizona i suppose if you look at where a lot of people are going to be gathered the super bowl but security experts are determined to keep it safe. what are they doing? that's straight ahead. just take a closer look. it works how you want to work. with a fidelity investment professional... or managing your investments on your own. helping you find new ways to plan for retirement. and save on taxes where you can. so you can invest in the life that you want today. tap into the full power of your fidelity greenline. call or come in today for a free
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are going to be working. with all those people packed into one place, you can bet security is extraordinarily tight. that's where the fbi comes in. pamela brown shows us what they're doing to keep players and fans safe. >> reporter: i sat down with the head of the fbi's counter-terrorism division and we talked about the terrorism landscape and how you prevent a terrorist attack at a big event like the super bowl. he says that a lot of preparation goes into place, it's all hands on deck and he took us into the command center where he and others on his team would gather if there was a crises during the super bowl. take a listen to what he had to say. >> the fbi, again in conjunction with the intelligence community and state and local partners we look at all events across the country, public venues that could be a target small, medium large, particularly an event like the super bowl is a concern. we begin planning and preparing months in advance. >> reporter: he also said that he has seen an increase in chatter online leading up to the super bowl on sunday but that
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at this stage there are no credible threats. pamela brown, cnn, washington. thank you for that. let's talk about how you keep people safe at such a big event like the super bowl. rachel rachel is there in new york. former homeland assistant juliette keim was also there. rachel you've been there since monday. how tight is the security? what are they doing? >> it's definitely increasing as the week goes on but it will be tightest around the stadium tomorrow. how tight? well they're even x-raying and going through katy perry's super bowl halftime costumes to make sure nothing's wrong there. there will be a 30-mile no-fly zone over the super bowl. there will be black hawk helicopters patrolling that no-fly zone that were provided
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by the u.s. border patrol and highlight the coordination between federal and local agencies. you not only have customs and border patrol but the tsa who is donating scanners and personnel. there are federal air marshals to walk through the crowd and see if anyone is acting suspicious. they've hired 4,000 private security personnel, 3,000 local police. they have bomb-sniffing dogs. they told us they have nuclear bomb sniffing dogs. i don't know how you train a nuclear bomb sniffing dog but apparently they will be on hand. >> i think juliette knows. i'm not going to ask her to explain it to our viewers. however, you wrote this piece for cnn.com about this and you said one key point is not relying on the security apparatus. what do you mean? >> i've been involved for a lot of security and the most important thing that motivates people to go to an event like
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this is flow. people want to experience the super bowl they want to watch it they want to have a good time so you're constantly balancing the need for flow, the people enjoying the activity with of course safety and security. it is silly to say we're going to be perfectly safe. you can't think of things that way. there are too many different risks. we're talking about terrorism now but there could be a blackout or a crowd stampede any number of issues. what first responders focus on first is coordination as we were discussing earlier, federal, state, local, sometimes international and then sort of response preparedness. if something were to happen can we get people out, can we protect them and what's the best way to do that. >> you write, look if you're someone who's going to the super bowl don't bring stuff with you. >> we always think about the security apparatuses coming on strong but at events like this we have to remember it's dependent on what people are willing to do. don't bring big backpacks, the see something say something
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campaign drink but don't drink too much. be smart about your own surroundings. >> before we go quick 30 seconds though just not on the security front but your outlook for the game. what's the most talked about thing there right now? >> reporter: we were talking a week ago, poppy, about deflate-gate deflate-gate i do expect it to influence tomorrow's game. some of the players are angry. they think people thought they had to cheat to get there and they want to show the world tomorrow that they deserve to be champions. look for a feisty patriots team. we'll see if that pays off in a win or whether seattle can hold them back. >> rachel you'll be there live. we'll see if it's the pats or the seahawks. thank you both. just 15 years ago it looked like the measles was dead gone not in the u.s. anymore. now more states reporting more cases in a fast moving outbreak.
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spread to at least 14 states and is growing. health officials say a student at bard college in upstate new york has the disease and he might have exposed other people to it because he took an amtrak train to niagara falls last weekend. most people have been vaccinated and get vaccinated when they're a child. bard set up a measles clinic just to be safe. elizabeth cohen shows us just how quickly measles can spread and how it can be deadly. >> reporter: if someone has the measles, 90% of the people close to them will also get the measles if they haven't been vaccinated. you don't even have to be in the
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same room as someone with measles to get it. if they were in that room an hour or two before you, it's still lurking in the air and you could get it. when someone gets measles, they first will feel a sore throat a fever, a runny nose. they might get pink eye, and then the rash begins. it starts at the hairline and moves down from there. it's ready. it's itchy. most people recover from measles and they're fine but some people do get terrible complications. they can get pneumonia. they can have brain damage and for every 1,000 people who get the measles, two or three of them will die. the centers or disease control recommends that children be vaccinated between 12 and a15 months and get a second dose between four and six years old. most of us have been vaccinated against measles but there's a set who can't be vaccinated. babies under the age of one are not routinely vaccinated and for example, people who have cancer
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they can't get vaccinated either. all of us get vaccinated to protect them and that's what's called herd immunity. right now the outbreak is centered on california and mostly western states. however, it could spread across the country because people travel. people might not even though they've been infected with measles. they get on a plane and come to another state. >> elizabeth cohen there. let me bring in our guest. dr. anthony fouchy the director of the national institute of allergy and infectious diseases. what stands out to me and what is troubling is that this disease, meezasles is so preventative. >> that's correct. all the vaccines we have against any illness, measles is one of the most effective. as you mentioned in the piece, measles is also one of the most contagious viruses we have and there are serious potential complications with it. when you put those ingredients together it's unfortunate that we don't make completely
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universal use of the vaccine and those people who can take the vaccine. that's frustrating because this could be avoidable. >> elizabeth cohen talked about this. it's an important point because when we were talking so much about ebola, we emphasized the fact that this is not airborne. you have to have this direct contact with someone to catch it. not the case with the measles. this can be airborne for hours and you can still get it. >> right. this is the epitome of an airborne infection. whenever you talk about airborne some people confuse other diseases as being airborne. this is truly airborne. if someone sneezes or coughs it gets in there and it could float around literally for up to two hours. it's so an interesting situation where you could go into a room after someone walks out of the room and have coughed and sneezed, and you could get infected. again, another reason why it's so important to be vaccinated. >> i wonder if you think there should be mandatory isolation for the people that are known
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across 14 states to have measles. children under 12 months cannot get the vaccine, so they still have to be out and about, at doctor checkups et cetera. it makes them >> you certainly need to be in a situation where you don't infect others where you can isolate. if you're exposed, or potentially exposed, you should have a 21 day period where you don't expose to others and make sure you don't have measles. children with measles are quite contagious four days before and after they get the rash. >> can adults get the vaccine and it works just as effectively? >> certainly, if someone who is not been vaccinated they can get vaccinated and the recommendation particularly if you're in a situation where you
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might get exposed, it is a two hart fax nation. you get fax nated one time and if you're an adult, you should get the second one no sooner than 25 days after the first. the first vaccination is around one year of age, and the next is around six years old. people not vaccinated are very vulnerable. some adults have not been vaccinated and for some people the immunity wanes. and that is why you see some adults in the group of people that have been affected. >> thank you for your expertise. they challenge us. they take us to worlds full of heroes and titans. for respawn, building the best interactive entertainment begins with the cloud. this is "titanfall," the first multi-player game built
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i new video from isis appears to show the beheading of a japanese citizen that was being held hostage. reaction from the japanese government is pure outrage. reaction from washington is condemnation. isis admitting that u.s. air strikes were too much for them to handle and they gave up trying to control a city that lies on the turkish and syria border called kobani. everyone who lived there had to run away in fear but today isis is no longer in kobani. it is the first time they admit they were outgunned. also now breaking news the daughter of late singer whitney
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houston found nonrespondtive and face down in a tub this morning. it is whitney houston's only child. she was not breathing when her husband and a friend found her around 10:30 a.m. today. police say she was still alive and and breathing and she is being treated in a hospital. i know howard that you have been talking to them, what are they says about how bobbi christina is doing. >> there is a lot of sadness, it is mimicking whitney's death that happened three years ago. nobody is talking about what happened why it happened not
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even speculation. they are very closed lipped about that. you look at a 21-year-old lady and it's hard to imagine what could have happened. i don't want to go there because i want to give her the benefit of the doubt. >> police saying in their initial investigation they can't find any link to alcohol or drugs. it is important not to jump to any conclusions. not only are you close to some of the members of the family you also know what it is like for the child of a star to be raised, right? this is the area in which you cover. i'm wondering if you can tell us about how close she was to her mother who she lost so suddenly and tragically. >> she was extraordinarily close. she was only 18 when it happened. clearly her mother was troubled and she has had a very troubled
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life. she has been expressing herself a lot on social media about the loss of her mother and missing her mother. bobbi kristina tried to make it in singing and in reality tv but she doesn't have the luxury of being anonymous. she toys with the public eye. she is not her mother her mother was a once in a generation kind of talent. i think everyone adores bobbi. she a loving young lady who grew up in challenging circumstances. >> i think one of the things that has come to light today, and some folks told us is that she really was working, especially lately to turn her life around to really focus on
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the good things ahead and to really try to move past and move forward. what do you know about that? >> i know she has great love. her -- she and her husband have reportedly a very strong relationship. a lot of love and support. and i know she is but she also has a great many demons at the same time. it is trying to move wound those demons demons. everyone that knows her, the family or is a fan, is it hard for her to get beyond today and get beyond this in a moment and stand on her own feet and make her own statement in the world. >> howard bragman, thank you for joining us good to have you on the program. >> that is it for me, coming up a big night of television had. "inside man" with morgan
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spurlock's new episode. and then "to catch a serial killer." and tonight at 11:00 p.m. "downward spiral." i'm poppy harlow thank you for joining me. hey, america, where would you like to spend your hard earned wages? the mall? a new car? how about the doctors office or a hospital? we americans spend more on our health care than any other country in the world, but at least that means we have the best health care right? well not necessarily. u.s. health care is complicated and