sister's car saying that she needs to run to the bank. and then prosecutors say she used the car to throw out a garbage bag to throw out that still-missing murder weapon. >> and susan candiotti is joining me a and what can you tell us about the juror that was dismissed? >> yes, on day three, the juror said that there was credible evidence that the juror had been talking about the case for the last year and a half, and she wanted to be on the jury, and she was discuss canning evidence and that she was inadmissible and that she had misanswered questions on the questionnaire that she had attended far fewer patriot games than she had. so now we have 17 jurors instead of 18 which shows you how important it is to have the extra alternates anderson. >> thank you, susan candiotti. thank you.

"cnn "cnn tonight" with don lemon begins right now. >> thank you, anderson. a train crashes into a car, and we have six people killed. we will have more on that. and now, there is a vow against the west but not against the west, but the isis who is crucifying a jordanian pilot. it is a crime that is so unspeakable that cnn will not show you the video. >> and isis is proving that they will stop at nothing but does the brutality make them up stoppable or turning their supporters even against them? we will discuss that as jordan's king is visiting the white house. and there is news that the jordan's king may execute a prisoner at any moment. we will have our terrorism expert to weigh in on that very soon. and first though, we have

breaking news. a train has slammed into a car on the train track near valhalla. there is a woman who is believed to be one of the drivers of the car is killed and at least a dozen people are injured and six people have died. the train was pushed five car lints north of the cross inging. and let's talk to the justin who was on the train as a passenger. are you okay? >> yes. >> please describe to us what you saw when this happened and what you experienced. >> i mean i was either the third or the second car from the front of where the impact was with the vehicle. so when the train struck the car, i really didn't feel too much of the impact, and it was not until the train came to a complete stop, and they shut down the n gin and cut the power

and the air, and there was dead silence silence, and maybe one or two minutes later, people saw that the first ka car, the car in front of us opened up the door and they smelled gas up front and we had to move the back of the train. so i grabbed my bag above me and i was traveling by myself so i started to walk with these gentlemen up a car or two lengths where we came to a stop and they came on the radio system to say that the car had struck a veeck only the track. that is all they said. after that they didn't say if there was a fire or what we should do or stay seated or evacuate. so i think that a couple of minutes later is when i realized that outside of the train there were i guess passenger ss or riders of the train walking in the snow heading toward ss the back of the train. >> we are looking at the pictures now, the pictures that you took justin and so when

did you realize that did you realize that the train was on fire or not until you were outside or did you realize it inside when the passengers told you? >> see, i realized it inside, because around me we heard somebody inside yell "the train is on fire." that is when we knew that the train was obviously on fire and people were getting out for the reason. i was in the middle of the car. i had people and we were crammed in, and this is rush hour so i had people in front of me and behind me, and i was smack in the middle. so there was a lot of people in there and the air was not circulating and getting hot, and i was getting kind of claustrophobic and so when i knew that the train was on fire and they were not giving us instructions i knew it was time to get out. so people broke open the glass and e opened up the emergency doors and i e eventually made my way out of the car which was difficult, because i the think that there was only 12 inches of

snow on the ground. it is quite a kind of a high length to get down into the snow. i was concerned for the people riding alone, elderly passengers, and women as well. thankfully, there was everybody helpful to get people off and where to step. >> and so would you say that there was no panicking, correct? >> where i was people really weren't panicking too much. we we knew that people were saying that the train was on fire, but i guess that everybody, people were remaining in their seats. i know that i was one of the first 10 15 people off of the train in that car. i was not in there when there was a panic. so i cannot imagine the people further back in the train who did not know what was going on until later how they were feeling. >> justin kaback a passenger

who was on the train that got into a accident tonight. six people dead on that train a and one of the people dead is believed to be the driver of the car. the the train struck a car. again, by valhalla new york and near white plains. we will stay by the story, and bring you details as we get them. and reports that a female suicide bomber may be executed any moment in jordan as the country vows revenge for the pilot burned alive by isis. joining us is our national security correspondent jim sciutto. you have seen the video, but cnn is not showing this video. >> and i have seen a lot of the videos, and beheadings and not out of interesting, but because

of what we do here at c nshgsnn, and isis is topping itself, because there is nobody competing in this space right now, and with are tremendous sophistication and shot like a movie with dissolves and focus changes, and graphics and, ets, and this a group that is sickly and also very skilled in maximizing its propaganda value and impact at this video. >> jordan is promising the earth-shattering response. what are you told about what that might be? >> i am told to expect a broad-based response from jordan a a ndnd that it is a lot of options on the table. one is certainly military. you saw it in the statement today following this by the military spokesman where they showed the video of the many military assets of the f-16 warplanes and missiles, and et cetera cetera, and we should expect that response and jordan is participate manage the

coalition, and perhaps further steps in the directions that they have taken and as you mentioned, don, the reports from the multiple agencies quoting the jordanian agencies that dawn which is a couple of hours away jordan time that the failed female suicide bomber sajida al rishawi will be executed. she was sentenced to death in 2006 and this is the woman whose suicide vest did not go off, and she was already sentenced to death, and this happened in a hotel, and there was a death moratorium that happened last month with a number of hangings and they would say that she was on death row and we carryied it out, but if you see that happen it is very much in response to the horrific death of that pilot. >> thank you, jim sciutto, chief national correspondent. i want to go to our reporter in

amman, jordan where it is right before sunrise, and we can see the jordanians go g toing to the streets calling for revenge, and can you describe the mood there right now some. >> well, it is a somber mood right now, don. we have seen over the last several hours people taking to the streets in amman and southern jordan in the town of the pilot, and there is so much disgust and anger of what was done, and they say that the blood of the pilot of muath al kaseasbeh should not be shed in waste. they want to see the government take action and e respond. we have heard the jordanian government and military say they will retaliate and saying that the e revenge is going to be equal to the tragedy of this jordanian pilot.

so many were holding on to the hope that he might come home. >> and we are looking at the pictures here jomana but, what can you tell us about what you have been seeing there, because there are fighter planes and tanks, and is this a preview of what is to come? >> well, don, they have been running since the announcements were made that these are the nationalistic song and in solidarity with the jordanian armed forces and military and this country is taking it personally the loss of one of its soldiers is felt by almost every household in the country, and there is ale feeling that this country is at war. as you know jor sdandan is a key part in the u.s.-led coalition in the fight against isis and there a feeling that the war is going to be taking awhole new dimension now, and that jordan may step up the fight against the extremist groups in the

region. don? >> thank you, so much for joining us from amman, jordan. so what sis the rereaction around the world to this isis tragedy. joining us now is fareed zakaria, and i'm glad to have you here. i want to listen to what the presidented a had to say today and then i will ask you about it it. >> and the vigilance and the determination on the part of the global coalition to make shurure that they degraded and ultimately defeated. >> what does this mean for the president's strategy going forward to defeat isis? >> well going forward, it is a positive meaning that the president has been trying to convince countries like jordan saudi arabia and turkey to ta take a more active role. i think that with the jordanians he was not having trouble convincing the government but they were weary, because the people of jordan were not adds engaged in the fight frankly, and they thought,

well, these are fellow sunnis and they are battling a regime in baghdad which they regarded as a shiite regime in damascus which they regarded as pro-iranian, and they could not see why to engage in this, and now the jordanian people are much more likely to be engaged, and so in general the brutality of isis in a strange way undermines their own success, because it is meanwhile going to scare people, it is going to scare people to take arms against them. >> this is what i wanted to ask you, because the pilot is against a prominent family in jordan and a murder like this is so vicious cause aglow ball reaction here, and it is going to be galvanizing more people against isis? >> yes, as you say, he comes from the important tribe in jordan and the jordanian people will view this as an attack the on him and the arabs around the country, and the arab world will

recognize, look, isis is not really about islam or religion and this is a very barbaric thing to do and violation in any humanity, and non-islamic, a and no precepts of islam, and they are claiming to be islamic, no thaey are a band of thugs, and the more the message gets out, the more easeier it is to take them on, because they can then be exposed for what they are which is a band of criminals and thugs rather than some spokesmen for new islamic caliphate. >> i want to tauklk more about that, but i want to listen to a earlier jordanian spokesman. >> the blood will not be wasted and the punishment of the tyrants of this earth who assassinated this martyr and those who are supporting him, they will have punish mentment at the same level of that entire jordanian family have been suffering, and there is going to

be punishment eventually. >> and is the jordanian military now promising revenge? >> yes, the jordanian rhetoric tends to be highfaluting and overblown, so if you were to listen to a german saying that it would mean one thing, but they are saying look we rare very, and this is engaged us fully. and the jordanians are in the fight. as i said this is mostly going to give the king the pop yuular support that he needs, and a apparently they are going to be doing the executions, and i honest lyly wish they wouldn't, because it is going to give the appearance of the vengeance where where they will say that many of the people had been sentence and such but in a way, you want to demonstrate that this is one of the things that president obama said in the interview with me last week he said that you want to approach this surgically and in a precise way and rational way, because you don't want to give them the satisfaction of jumping, and

overe reacting, because that is what they are after. what have they done? they have killed one person and they have been killing lots of people but if they do it in a particularly barbaric and brutal way, it is going to give them the world's attention. >> and so does it give them momentum when it comes to certainly other jihadists and extremists but for the rest of the world, it does not? >> itt probably gives them a temporary intimidation fac to, and it reminds you of the appeal appeal. the appeal is not that they are wise or just or true but scarce people. and some men look at that and they marvel at the bravado, but most people as you say, they get turned off, and that is the story of al qaeda, and the story of al qaeda in iraq and of isis. >> we are not showing the video, and it is 22 minutes, and the

pilot trapped in the cage getting burned, does this help or hurt the cause of isis, because many believe that they will be using it as a recruiting tool and whether we show it or not, it is not for the consumption of the public, but it is for the people they are targeting, correct? >> well, it is the right decision. it is almost pornographic and playing to the just playing into their hands. as to whether it will help them as i say, they will have some sick young men who are in serf of the adventure, and the action, and find this kind of the bar barism glorious, but for the most part i think, it reminds you that this group is really about fear and intimidation. remember the part of what is going on here and the important part is the battle of the hearts and the minds. are these the people of the future? is this who you want to bank on? who is going to be looking at this and think of the people as the future? >> it does seem desperate. >> and you wonder, because they are not doing particularly well in iraq but okay in syria and

this is desperate attention, and also, remember how it began, don. they took two japanese hostages and wanted $200 million, and the japanese said no so we will execute one hostage. no the japanese did not budge. so they wanted the other hostage released the female suicide bomb bomber a friend nowhere and a woman who was in a plot nine years earlier, and people had forgotten about her, and it is a feeling of the plan b or c, and they can do incredibly barbaric execution, and slickly produce the video but it is seeming like not a strategic plot, but something that went seriously awry. >> thank you, fareed zakaria. >> and we have more on the plot of revenge for the pilot that

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cruikshank what are you see hooger? >> well, don, i think they are psychotic, and whether it is christian or islam. i have been in touch with my contacts, and that i say that they are on the fence, and they are overreacting killing the with western hostages, but they are under threat of the killing the shia villages. and i think that will change with the release of this tape. and now w with the conservative ones who have been supporting the islamic state feeling it is a bastion of sunni islam, but it is going to change turkey who has to shut that border, and the islamic state has to be strangled from today on. >> and paul i asked fareed

zakaria, a similar question, does it show desperation on the part of isis or confidence? >> well, don, it is a sudden amount of anger, and the brutality of hthis murder e shows anger about the air strikes which are taking thing a toll, but you should not read too much into it, because after all at the height of the strength thaey were putting out these brutal and beheading video, and from the isis point of view, this is a way to sort of weaken the jordanians in times of their willingness to to try to take the fight to isis but as bob has been saying, it is likely to have the opposite effect. some of the videos that they were putting out last year in iraq did terrify iraqi soldiers and contributed to them turning and running in mosul rather than fighting isis but i think it is likely to have the opposite

effect this time to bolster king abdullah of jordan in the fight against isis. >> and by the way, the jordanian pilot was muslim and there are demonstrations in amman, and do you expect more reaction in the middle east? >> i think that absolutely, because these people cannot define who is a muslim, a nd who is not. it is not acceptable in the tenets of islam. people are e defining i it sodefining muslim so widely that it is difficult to know who. and when the barbaryity becomes shown, it is my hope that they are turned on.

>> and this is so gruesome but who is making this call? who is instructing this to be made into a propaganda call? >> i think that sign-off was right from the top, and this is right from baghdadi, the head of isis who would have organized this, and we are told that it might have happened a month ago, and baghdadi is widely known as the most brutal leader that isis have ever had, and that includes quite a lot of the brutal leaders like al abu musab, and so this is likely a way to weaken the resolve of jordan and many other leaders, but this is a wide miscalculation and this is going to be strengthening the resolve of jordan and other countries. >> and do you agree, bob? >> yes. i think that jordan is going to be considering ground troops and

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breaking news just into cnn, a jordan female suicide bomber has been executed along with another suicide bomber and both of them have been executed. that is just in. and we are just getting the news in jomano and what do you know? >> well the jordanian government is say ging that sajida al rishawi who was convicted and sentenced to death in jordan back in 2006 for her role in the suicide bombings that struck

three jordanian hotels in 2005 is referred to the 9/11 of jordan along with another member of what used to be known as al qaeda in iraq which is the parent organization of isis and a man who was a close and top aide to the founder and leader of al qaeda in iraq jordanian born terrorist of al zawahiri who was killed in 2006 and both of these prisoners have been executed and they have been hanged to death in jordan this morning. okay. don. >> thank you, jomana. i want to bring in our panel who is a cnn analyst, and also again, jamomana, our correspondent

in jordan is telling us that it has been announced that sajida al rishawi has been execute and another female prisoner has been hanged and that is what the jordanian government has been announcing. >> well, it is expected because the jordanians have said they that they will do it and it is carried through. with the murder of the jordanian pilot, and in the announcement of it has galvanized the public and given the king a mandate that he do something, and he do it fairly quickly. >> and colonel reece? >> yes, same as rick, we knew it would come and nothing surprising. and we have to sit back and watch now and let the jordanians do what h they feel they need to do. >> and jomana if you are there,

you have been monitoring the jordanian television, and are the sources coming through the government where they rare monitoring the state tv? >> there is a banner that is running where it is 5:30 a.m. in amman right now, ap people will be waking up to the news. this is something that there has been speculation for some time and calls and demands on the street, and we have heard this over the past week that since isis threatened to execute the pilot muath al kaseasbeh that there have been calls from jordanians that prisoners associated with isis and in this case, members of al qaeda in iraq, and aqip and executed in e retaliation, and we have heard renewed calls for this today, and that is what is happening. it is important to point out that don, these two had been on death row. jordan sentenced them to death in 2006 but the country had a

de facto moratorium on the death penalty and halted the executions for about eight years, and only resumed the executions in december. >> and lieutenant colonel reese, one may wonder about the failed suicide bomber's execution, and what does that mean? does it mean that she carried out the mission because she was a suicide bomb mer the first place? >> well, no i don't think so don. her husband was the one where they attacked the radisson hotel in jordan and killed all of the folks at the wedding party. it did not go off, and this is justification for the jordanian s s, and again, like i said a moment ago, we have to sit back and let the jor dandanians do what they need to do and allow king abdullah to lead his people on the next generation of the aspects of isis. >> this is coming on the same day, and not of the execution

but of the video coming out of the jordanian pilot, lieutenant colonel rick francona and the significance of this happening in succession? >> well, it is a reaction and the king had to do something. they had threatened to do something, and they carried it out out. now we have to see what they do next. the king has a mandate and the tribes are on his side. there was talk in jordan and is this really our battle. that has now passed a on the the king is on solid ground, and he is going to be taking increased military action and we will be seeing increased jordanian participation in the coalition, and we don't want to have independent operations, because we want them to do it in conjunction with the coalition, and do it forcefully and effectively to have the designred effect on isis, but everybodile welcomes their special

operations who are by the way an excellent military force >> and not short riffed that they executed a top operative to al qaeda. >> yes, zawahiri is the founding father of isis and baghdadi the leader of isis now shgs, was one of zawahiri's top men, and put out on the swap with the iraqis but this is what we have to watch here, because it is one of the opportunities for the arab nations to pull this arab aspect back together, because what we are not talking about here is what is the policy about syria? what do we do about syria? because the senior leadership of isis and where these executions are taking place are happening in syria, and we just continue to float out there in a e ethernet about what to do about syria, and nothing hard is being discussed. >> all right, jim. and can we talk about the timing

of all of thshgts andis? jordan believes that the murder happened a month ago on january 3rd. and isis revealed the news in king abdullah's visit here to d.c. on february 3rd, and is that deliberate colonel reese? >> well in islam numerology is very important, and if you look at the 3rd of january, and by the way it looks by the way we understand it it is 10 days after his shootdown and capture, and so if you look at what numerology does a, and there is a lot of folks who study the numerology is about, and what 9/11 is based off of and number 3 is based off of and there are a lots of things throughout history, and since this 9/111 aspect for us and the num numerology of how islam, and how the extremist piece of this attacks, and how they do it is based on the numerology which is

something that if you look at it are from the researches a speck of it it is interesting to watch. >> and all right. jomana is in karachi, and what are you hearing, jim sciutto from your sources? >> this is a part of the very broad based and tough response that jordan promised once this video came through that the executions are part of it but it is expected that there is a military response, and it is very quick, and jordan will say that these, both of these, not only the suicide bomber sajida al rishawi, but also, the founder of al qaeda in iraq and the predecessor, and both of them had been sentenced to death before and the death sentences had been commuted in jordan and there had been a moratorium on executions which was lifted just last month, so they will say that they were convicted

already and carrying out the sentences that were handed down a number of years in the case of al raishawi the female suicide bomber and so that is part of the message conveyed from king abdullah is that this is going to be the opposite of cowering jordan and the impression from the white house is that it is not going to do anything but to double-down the reaction. >> jim, did anybody expect such a quick reaction from jordan? >> well, i think maybe a surprise but the officials maybe had been urging a maybe if not more muted response to take time here, and not to react too

quickly, and you can make the argument that you are playing into the isis' hands, i suppose by you know getting into the game of the eye for the eye and that said you have strong demands, and there have been for some time from the jordanian public the strong response and in particular from the tribe of the pilot which is very powerful in jordan and they were demanding a response, and you will see that jordan responded. >> what more should we expect from jordan jim? >> the military reaction. and further, certainly, further participation in the coalition, and no backing off, but military strikes, and that is not necessarily can't happen right away, because you have to draw up the targets, and the intelligence, and the places that are not just knee-jerk reactions in the military sense, but to targets that are going to be you hope take a toll on

isis, but something that will be coming in the coming days. >> and nouw, coming from jordan our correspondent jomana what are you seeing? >> well, this is something that jordanians are calling for, don. we heard nit amman a few hours ago that people took the streets that there sis a call for the revenge. and then we heard the government and the military saying that there is going to be retaliation, and so that the government here, the king, they are under pressure to deliver this response fast. people want to see a reaction straightaway and as jim mention mentioned, this of course, includes the tribe of jordan and the tribe of muath al kaseasbeh, and the tribe is important, because they are the backbone of the jordanian monarchy monarchy, and they make up the large backbone of the jor dapian mill military services, aed on the keep them satisfied with the responses is something that the jordanian government and the king has to do.

and the anger that we vhave seen, don, it has been directed to isis, the anger on the streets, and the jordanian king has to capitalize on it or you will see what we have heard in the past week, the jordanians blaming the government for this that jordan should not take part of the coalition, and fighting isis, and we would expect that many people are going to be waking up to this news and they are ogoing to be happy to hear this. >> and i want you to stand by, because i have many questions for you and jim sciutto and colonel reese, and correspondent francona. update here is that two women have been executed in jordan in response to the murder of the jordanian pilot. we will have more right after this break. nutrition,

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news just in jordan has executed two terrorist prisoners, and one is a female suicide bomber, and the execution is in response to the burning death of the pilot and with me is korcolonel reese and jim shuoe toe, and also security correspondent jim francona, and also, we are joined by our correspondent there in jordan, and we go to you, jomana, what are you hearing there? >> there is mixed reaction to the fight in the coalition, and the fight with isis and this is a debate that has been going on with jordan's participation late last year, and something that we are seeing at the recent passing

crisis and some believe it is not this country's war a a and that jordan should not be taking part in air strikes on fellow muslims, but at the same time, we are hearing the other jordanians that jordan needs to strike these terrorist organizations, but that it needs to be going after isis after isis comes after jordan. >> and the other person executed is top aide to al zawahiri. >> and so, in that vain general, is that going to the change anything when it comes to our policy there in the middle east? >> i believe that when we agreed to strike targets there, we have seen strong jordanian support in the military for what is going on and jomana brings up excellent points about the e debate going on in the initial strikes as to whether jordan should be involve and if it is

their war, but if you talk to the people in the apparatus, they ing aagree that there is a threat to the king and if you look at the way that the threat came out down the euphrates valley valley, and down the jordanian border, they seized that area that is the syria and the jordanian and the iraqi border meet making a real threat, and there are scares with the jordanian threat and so they certainly view isis as a threat. and so you will see them win the argument in the coming weeks, and now will that last? we don't know, but we will see jordan willing to provide more support to coalition air operation, and jim made an excellent point, it is going to be taking time for them to do that and we can't have the jordanians running off to do this independently, because it is a air campaign, and they need to be a part of the overall planning, and they need coalition refueling and air support, and intelligence and so everybody welcomes the increased jordanian air support

but it has to be in conjunction with the coalition. >> and before the executions, a pentagon spokesperson talked about the hostage e negotiations would not alter the course of the negotiations with isis. have a listen and then we will talk. >> we have not made it a -- i can only speak for the united states military we have not made it a point to respond to direct li directly the killings even when these were when american citizens were killed at least from the american millitary perspective, it is not a tit-for-tat. we are at war with the isil at the same way we are at war with al qaeda. >> it is not tit-for-tat as he is saying for the american government and you can see that back there in amman, jordan but it is certainly going to have more meaning, and closer to in light of what happened today, and what we saw today in the video for jordan and jordan is

vowing revenge, jomana. >> it is ip deed. and there are a number of options here that the jordanian government that the jordan yan king can take either stepping up the military campaign that jordan is already involved in, and don, also, this is a country where there are isis supporters here, and jihadis from jordan and the possibility where you would see the government and the security forces also cracking down on them. and of course, there was talk of seeing the executions taking place, and we did see this happen this morning with jordan announcing the execution of these two top members of al qaeda in iraq sajida al rishawi, and for many, a reminder of the attack that shocked this nation and what is described as the 9/11 of jordan, and she took part in the bombings, and really they are fresh in the minds of so many jordanians, and

are reminding them of the threat that these, these organizations, these extremist organizations in the are region pose to jordan and that they see isis as a great enemy because of their alliance with the united states and the west with their fight against the extremism, and what we have seen from the military and the government and the military, they are going to be having a harsh response, and a re reveng that equals the tragedy of jordanians as they the described it don. >> do we have jim sciutto with us? jim? >> yes. >> and i wanted to ask you this earlier, and i did ask fareed zakaria about it but he said that we will redouble the vigilance on the part of the global coalition to make sure they rare degraded and ultimately defeated. the president has not responded to the latest action by the jordanian government but we are likely to hear from the white house if not tonight, but early

in the morning, and what are you expecting the white house to be? >> well, i have reached out to the white house, and right now, they are refer us the jordanian government government, and we did hear earlier today that the white house officials with were encouraging the jordanian counterparts to deliver a measured response and i think that behind that you had something of a subtle message perhaps not to overreact, you know hard to define overreaction but to take their time and push back at the ideology and to use it as an opportunity to portray isis as not muslim but anti-muslim to help pushback support for isis of which there is some frankly inside of jordan among other sunnis in the region to use it as an opportunity rather than getting into the tit-for-tat, and now, you know, it is up as the white house officials will say that it is up to jordan to

say how they will e respond to this, and jordan has made the e decision to respond quickly in a, you know, certainly, a powerful way. >> colonel reese, tell us about the king as we saw video there, and tell aus bt the king? >> can king abdullah i'm a big fan. he is a special forces operator and very well trained. i was fortunate to train with him in the mid-1980s, and he is a warrior king. at the same time i have been impressed with the way he is able to lead in that tribal a area of jordan and his ability to bring calm to his people. i have always been impressed with him, and like i said he is a warrior king and i think that we will see him rising to the top, and literally could become a major player in the coalition, because of the prowess nessness and leadership to the tab. >> what do you mean by warrior king when you say that? >> well you know you look to

the other senior leaders of the countries involved and he is actually a former military officer, and he commanded the special forces in jordan and he is a 71st, you know, their delta tier i equivalent operator and a guy who has been on the ground, and he knows the soldiers and the people in the armed forces, and he has a great, you know, relationship with the armed forces and so now you take that and bring it to the leadership side and the political and the diplomatic side, and he understands both sides and he has a different view than most of the senior leaders in the co coalition has. >> and colonel francona, you have worked with or with the jordanian military as an adviser, and how similar is their military to ours? >> well you'd be surprised how similar the ethics are, the training standards. we use very much the same weaponry and they go to all of our schools as jim has said, and

jim has trained with them out in the field, and we do everything together. we have been exercising with the jordanians in decades, and they pretty much mirror our capabilities in miniature. they don't have all of the equipment they need to conduct all of the independent operations they would like to but we will be there with them, and as long as they do, we will be with there with them, and they bring a welcomed capability and right now, they bring a welcomed commitment to be part of the coalition, and that is very important. >> i want to update the viewers on the breaking news if case you are just joining us, jordan executed two terrorist prisoners, and we have people live, and the correspondent live in the region and the experts are on the air, and one of them is a female suicide bomber, and the other is a top aide to al zawahiri and this is response to death of the jordanian pilot. and earlier it was reported that

the pilot was killed and set on fire on january 3rd, and we are not getting the video until february 3rd, a i am joined by colonel jim reese, and lieutenant colonel rick francona and correspondent jomana pr jordan and jim sciutto, our international correspondent as well. >> and jim made a good point earlier, and colonel reese did, we have a plan on the ground force in iraq which seems to be progressing sort of according to the plan. and when you cross the board to syria, this is a whole different situation. there are too many groups on the ground fighting each other and you have isis and the tribes and the moderates and the syrian

army and so many other, and now what you are seeing up in eastern is the tribes breaking away from isis and pushing away from isis and allying with the syrian army, and so there is a lot of things going on in the ground and we don't have a whole lot of understanding there, and inserting the u.s. troops into this mess is not a good idea. >> and jomana has gone away to get information, and so what should we expect today jim sciutto, from imman, jordan? >> sorry, don. >> yes, jim sciutto? >> well, you have to look at the public response before the executions when people were calling for blood. in those word ss, they were calling for blood. i think that you can expect at least in the first public response the executions welcoming the steps, and they wanted the step, and looking forward as the government takes military steps in response and

i have very much expected to pick the target to double-down on the coalitions and i think that public support as well. and the trouble is that how long does this last if the cost continue continues to rise for jordan and i remember when the four u.s. contractors were brutally killed many in fallujah in iraq in 2004 killed from the bridge, and we all remember the images which sparked further u.s. reaction there. but over time the cost of the military action weighed down on the american public support for the war. so this is a war that by all accounts the officials, and the administration officials, it is going to take years, so when you look at the country of jordan will the public support remain over the years, it is open for question. >> and now, just knowing how barbaric this video was that we saw today, one wonders if isis

has gone too far, and how much support the jordanian people are supporting the government is a big rally support pord the king's return today, and did they the go too far this time colonel reese? >> well, the thing that surprised me is that people may not have seen the full film but it is the desecration of the body afterwards when they dropped the concrete dirt from the front loader, and dragged the frontload erer across. >> disgrace to the muslims. >> yes, shock. i have seen a lot of bad things but they have gone too far for this one, and they need to pay for it. >> and colonel francona i have a few seconds here, but your final thought? >> i understand that the white house wants the jordanians to have a measured response but i wonder what our response had been if it had been an american pilot. >> and thank you, and there has

been an execution in jordan and new information coming in, and we have correspondents throughout the region following the story, and thank all of the guests here shgs, and live coverage of the breaking news in jordan continues now with john vass who is joining us from the cnn center in atlanta. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com i'm john vass at the cnn center at this hour the government of jordan says it has executed two prisoners in apparent retaliation for the brutal murder of the captured jordanian pilot. one of the prisoners was sajida al rishawi, a failed iraqi suicide bomber which isis had asked for jordan to release. jordan had considered swapping her for fighter pilot muath al kaseasbeh, but the deal was smashed when the video showed muath al kaseasbeh was burn eded alive locked inside of a steel cage. for more on this we go to amman, and we go live this