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promising this is only the beginning. we're going to have more on that in a moment but first we're following two horrific crashes. >> the first is a spectacular plane crash in taiwan. it was caught on a car's dash cam. we'll show you the video. and the other is a fiery rush hour train crashing just north of new york city. we start with the plane crash that killed at least 21 people. the terrifying moments captured on this video you're about to see. look at this. it shows the plane falling out of the sky moments after takeoff. striking that bridge and narrowly missing buildings in taipei before plunging into a river. >> so the search for the victims continues at this hour there are survivors. a bit of glimmer of hope. we begin our coverage with cnn's david mckenzie with breaking key tails. >> that's right, michaela. incredible that survivors walked out in some cases from this plane, right after takeoff in taipei taiwan. as you saw in the incredible
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footage, the plane dropping down cartwheeling and smashing into a highway and plunging into a river near taipei. several people were able to leave, scores of rescuers went to the scene by boat. by any other means necessary and pulled people out of the wreckage. tragically some 21 people have died according to authorities, they have managed to retrieve the flight data recorders so we can get some sense of what exactly happened. but this morning,'s crash must have shocked residents in taipei caught from the camera right in the car on the highway. >> i know you've been updating the numbers, we'll be back with you. in new york state we had the deadliest crash of the history of the metro north train line seven people are dead after a passenger train slammed into a jeep right at the height of rush hour. deb feyerick join us from the crash site in valhalla new york. >> can you see the train behind me this is the tail end of the train. the smell of smoke still very,
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very heavy in the air. this is a very popular commuter line that goes to the suburbs. it was leaving manhattan last night. ntsb investigators are on their way, they're expected to arrive here sometime later in the morning. key to the investigation is how and why that jeep chirerokee got stuck on the tracks it's been very icy, but the car made it on to the tracks when the guardrail closed. take a listen to some of the witnesses who talked to us. >> this morning, commuters in new york reeling after a train crash left seven people dead at least a dozen injured tuesday evening. >> there was a passenger that ran past me he had blood on his face. and people were pulling the windows off, trying to get out through the emergency windows. screaming, yelling, it was just total panic. >> it was rush hour just around 7:00 p.m. when this metro north train traveling on the tracks north of new york city heading from grand central terminal to
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valhalla collided with an suv. >> could you tell there was panic going on towards the front of the train. like walk balk, walk back. >> according to metro transit authority officials the gate at the train closing closed down on sust. the female driver got out to look at the rear of her jeep cherokee and that's when the train struck. >> there were multiple fatalities. >> there was smoke in the head car and we saw a couple of flames. >> but we were able to get off in time. but it was scary. >> the explosion leaving behind a plume of smoke from the cabs. about 650 people aboard. >> the third rail of the track came up from the explosion and went right through the car. so it is truly a devastatingly ugly situation to see. >> the driver of the suv and six train passengers killed. the ntsb sending a team to investigate the crash later today. >> when you look at the damage done it's actually amazing that
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not more people were hurt on that train. >> this deadly train collision comes on the heels of a november ntsb report finding that five metro north accidents that killed six and injured more than 100 passengers were all preventible. now service on this line is going to be disrupted, certainly for a day as investigators come and try to figure out exactly what was going on with the signals. with the icing going on on the tracks. again, this is one of the deadliest in metro north history. alisyn? >> deb feyerick thank you for the back ground. let's bring in mary sciavo cnn aviation analyst and former inspector general for the u.s. department of transportation to talk about both crashes. good morning, mary. >> good morning. >> let's start with the metro north train crash. you heard deb talking about the questions about the signals, questions about icing. what have we learned about the cause of the train crash? >> we won't have any kind of
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definitive cause until the ntsb of course reviews the train recorders, they are similar to the black boxes on the airplanes and also is able to talk to the train staff and the many witnesses. but what people don't realize is that the signals at the crossings can be run by someone and can be maintained and looked after by someone other than the train crossing the track. so it would depend who had the responsibility for the crossing signals. there's lots to look at. did the lights give the warning, was there any kind of an oral warning. was this a area where a train was allowed to whistle or not allowed to blow the whistle? was the train traveling at the proper speed to give the traffic time to cross over the crossing. so there's so many questions that can be answered. and most likely they will be. including by the recording equipment on the train and examining when the crossing was last maintained and when the signals were last checked. and the gates were last checked.
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>> some of the passengers on the train have given very interesting eye-witness testimony. what they describe is that the train came to a complete halt. they didn't know that it had hit anything. the train just came to a dead stop and then they heard over the loudspeakers someone say the train has struck a car. they smelled gas fumes. but they got no further instructions. they didn't know what else to do. that is a real flaw in a safety plan. >> exactly. i mean for example on the airlines to compare to a different transportation mode. there are many many drills and exercises and requirements on evacuation. but similarly, on the plane, the pilot gives the evacuation order and we don't know what was going on yet. i mean certainly there should be other personnel on the train in the cab of that train. but yes, there should have been instructions and how to get out. but on the trains they don't do the safety drills like you do on
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the aircraft every time you board the plane and perhaps that's something that the ntsb should look into. a month ago the ntsb said rail passenger, rail safety is one of the most important things to improve safety in the united states. it's on their most wanted list. >> we know the passengers it sounds like that died on the train, it wasn't necessarily from the impact it was from the fire and the fumes. let's talk about this very dramatic airplane crash overnight. a transair flight that happened in taiwan. the numbers are fluid. look at this dramatic video caught on dash cam of the plane coming down. do we know what happened? >> well you know i don't have the best eyesight in the world, the glasses work but it looks to me like one of the propellers was not turning on that little tiny footage. now it's hard to see, but that would explain why they weren't able to control it and you're supposed to pilots are supposed to be trained to fly with one engine including bringing it in safely if this they had lost
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that other engine. but it looks to me like they would have lost one of the engines. what would not explain is why they lost an engine. why this airline, this is a second crash this airline has had in as many years. and what's going on with the training and maintenance at this airline. and the airplane the atr, does not fly largely, is not in service in the united states for lots of issues. not including icing issues in the past. so there's a lot of issues there. but i suspect that they're having an engine problem. >> mary i don't know if you have a monitor in the studio but the video is so dramatic you see a parent holding a baby. part of this not only of the plane coming down is so shocking. but then of the rescue at this hour of course the numbers are fluid. but 21 people died here 15 were injured. it's amazing, we can see all of the survivors of this. that people would survive this plane crash. >> yes, what people don't realize is in on average, in
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plane crashes, over half of the people survive. even horrific crashes. and so the key is to be able of course to get out. and to make that escape and that's why there's so many interesting parallels between the two tragedies this morning. getting out is the key in any train crash or plane crash. and that's why it's important that you do everything can you for transportation modes to make accidents survival. to make crashes survivable and that includes escape routes and practice. >> it sounds like investigators will be looking at all of that in the days to come. mary sciavo thanks so much. over to michaela. we have more breaking news jordan taking decisive action hanging two jailed al qaeda terrorists in retaliation for the barbaric murder of a captured jordanian pilot. isis burned him alive in a cage then released the gruesome video for the world to see. cnn has every angle of the story covered. we begin with atika shubert in oman jordan. atika?
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>> that's right, michaela. i'm here where prayers took place, you can see the banners that say farewell to the pilot and we are all martyrs, showing solidarity for him. these are the kinds of things we've been seeing all across the city. this sort of spontaneous support by people. in fact there are people lined up at the airport right now, waiting for the arrival of the king, to show their support to him as well and their anger for what's happened. so if isis' goal was to try to divide opinion here in jordan it does not seem to be working. i spoke to one man who said he believes this will become a turning point in which not only does jordanian public opinion turn united against isis but that this will turn the opinion throughout the arab world. >> all right. atika shubert reporting, thank
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you so much for that. we're getting a little sense of what it's like on the streets in jordan. the big question -- what will happen next. let's bring in pentagon correspondent barbara starr. there are obvious questions here. what will the jordanians do? what does it mean for the region? is it a tipping point? and is there going to be a change here at the pentagon? what do you hear? >> what we know this morning is that u.s. and jordanian intelligence services are now scouring every frame of that horrific video for any clues about the identities of the perpetrators. isis released a 22-minute video of jordanian pilot lieutenant muath al-kasasbeh being burned alive in a locked steel cage. cnn choosing not to show the gruesome video. >> it's truly horrifying. when you watch the video that's meant to inflict terror. >> jordan announced the murder likely took place a month ago soon after the 27-year-old's plane crashed in northern syria.
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and isis stronghold. recently isis threatened to kill the pilot if jordan didn't release sajida al-rishawi the failed iraqi suicide bombers who attacked a wedding party in jordan nearly a decade ago. al-rishawi one of the two, already on death row, put to death by jordan. >> i think the executions were more to satisfy the demand for action of the king. >> news of the pilot's death coming as jordan's king abdullah was visiting washington. >> well -- >> in a message recorded before rushing home the king called for jordanians to quote stand together and show the mettle of the jordanian people in unity, determination and resolve. president obama and other u.s. officials expressing solidarity with this close ally in the u.s.-led military coalition to degrade and eventually defeat isis. >> it's just one more indication
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of the viciousness and barbarity of this organization. >> and there is some speculation as for what is next. that jordan may now step up its airstrikes against isis targets. something the coalition would support. alisyn? >> barbara starr, thank you so much for that reporting. so how will the u.s. and our allies respond to this sickening action by isis? senior white house correspondent jim acosta joins us from the white house with more. what are they saying, ingsaying jim? >> in response president obama is vowing to defeat this terrorist group. i talked to an official last night who predicted the killing of that jordanian pilot, muath al-kasasbeh, will backfire on isis. the administration believes the horrific video will only strengthen the resolve of the jordanians. a clear indication from the white house that jordan is likely to ramp up efforts in the
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anti-isis coalition and last night the president met with jordan's king abdullah. only hours after the two leaders met, two al qaeda prisoners in jordan were executed. we'll hear more about the administration's plans for taking on isis when the president's nominee for defense secretary, ash carter has a hearing on capitol hill and a questionnaire completed by ash carter. when asked what the president means when the u.s. will defeat isis. carter responded, isil must no longer be a threat to the you state, iraq or our partners. there will be a lot of questions for the administration's strategy to defeat isis. a former al qaeda operative is making new allegations from behind bars in new testimony mousse mousse moussaoui claims that several members of the saudi arabia's royal family financially supported al qaeda in the '90s.
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the saudii government says there's no evidence to support his claim. moussaoui is serving a life sentence for conspiring to kill americans in the 9/11 attacks. today is a hearing for ash carter to become the next pentagon chief. carter said he will focus on keeping islamic state militants from keeping a foothold in afghanistan and said he would consider changing the president's plan to withdraw u.s. forces from afghanistan if conditions warrant. more trouble for lance armstrong. police say he tried to pin a recent hit-and-run on his girlfriend. they say armstrong hit two parked cars after a night of partying in december. then fled the scene. but he and his girlfriend agreed that she would take the blame. she admits as much. saying they did it to avoid publicity. no one was hurt in the crash. damage was done to the parked cars. and armstrong's credibility. such as it is. >> you know what a tangled web we weave, right? she said she had teenagers and
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wanted to avoid the publicity and shame it would bring to the family if he were arrested. yet she now has besmirched her own reputation. >> is it possible he hasn't learned his lesson about lying? >> is it possible? he was in an interview with the bbc where he said i would do it all again. he may benefit a little bit from context in that statement, but not really. and those who are against him, his critics? say this is what he does he does what he has to do to protect himself and that's what made his crimes in sports worse than others. we're going to get back to the top story now that jordan has hanged two terrorists in retaliation for a brutal murder of a jordanian pilot. the question is will there be more bloodshed, we'll talk about it with our chief international correspondent, christiane amanpour. financial noise
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jordan says an eye for an eye. executing two jailed terrorists just after, hours after isis released a video showing a captured jordanian fighter pilot being burned alive. we are not going to show you that video, obviously. but we're going to report on the situation because what happens next is key. u.s. officials believe the pilot was killed last month, long
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before those failed negotiations began for the pilot's release. what is next for jordan for the region for the united states? let's bring in cnn's chief international correspondent, christiane amanpour. christiane, the best hope here is that this is a tipping point. do you think it could be? and if so what would that mean? >> well you know it's interesting, i know a lot of people are looking at that. obviously clearly what isis is trying to do 0 is both have this extreme sort of public relations offensive. what it's trying to do is get more recruits and it's trying to get the members of the coalition to stop being members of the coalition. jordan has said categorically that it will remain in the coalition and step up its actions against isis. the father of this this pilot who has been so savagely killed has said that he wants jordan to annihilate that's the word he used to a nilennihilate isis.
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and the grand imam at a mosque in egypt says the terrorists should be crucified, killed. so there is from those area as strong push-back against what isis has done. >> we have heard from analysts who say that even ultraradicals, even al qaeda or isis sympathizers have said that this brutality has been taken to a new level with the release of this sickening video of this assassination. so is it galvanizing people in a different way than the previous brutality that we saw from isis had? >> i really do think we have to wait and see. because it's very nebulous to know exactly who is pushing back and who isn't. you know people who don't believe in this violent ideology are sickened by it. and we've seen some of that reaction online. people who are psychopathic themselves and i use that word
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advisedly. and i'll tell you why in a second. think that perhaps it's part of the gory diet they love to see and the bloodlust cult that is unleashed and is leaderless and thrashing around to try to do whatever it can to stay in the limelight. why did they go through this very cynical charade of using the jordanian pilot in an attempt for a prisoner swap when they knew they killed him already to keep this in the public. they killed the two japanese i spoke to a very senior official who said this will not sway japan's desire to remain not part of the military coalition, but to keep helping the refugees and to keep pursuing terrorists as he put it to me. the japanese prime minister said he would never forgive what happened to the two japanese citizens. so in that regard it's very much concentrated people's minds, to keep fighting isis. isis is losing territory. maybe not so much in syria, although it lost kobani on the
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border. but is being pushed back in iraq. and a lot of their people have been killed. >> right, but christiane as you well know and you teach us all the time this war is not about what happens on the battlefield. it is about where this idea comes from. where the extremism is engendered. while we don't know what it's going to mean for radicals in general, for jordan jordan has a mixed population in terms of how they feel about isis. do you think this could change that? and if so what might it enable jordan to do now that it hasn't done to this point? >> well look you know who knows. jordan is not the senior member of this coalition. jordan has been a staunch, a staunch supporter of the west in fighting terrorism. it's joined the coalition. but i mean it's part of the real heavyweight is the united states. and some of the western allies who have been bombing. jordan is there, but you know i don't know frankly what more it can do. other than drop bombs. >> but the u.s. is not growing
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isis fighters the way countries in that region are. so it really is about those countries stepping you. do you think this may push that type of behavior? >> i think what we're seeing from jordan right now is a sort of solidifying their unity around the government and basically say week have to go after these people. so i think that's very important. that is coming from the family and from the tribes. so given that that is coming from them after they had demonstrated and suggested that you know this war was not their war. and that they you know not necessarily all pro, the coalition, the killing of this pilot has solidified at least for the moment this unity around the king. and i guess the answer really is to that question whether the king can persuade his people that fighting isis is more is more important than allowing
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isis to come to jordan and kill its people. so i think that's where the king has to really negotiate this and persuade them that it's more dangerous to get out of the coalition than it is to stay in the coalition. when we talk about the islamic -- go ahead. >> i was going to say we understand that you recently interviewed a man who was taken hostage by isis. what did he share about their motivation now? >> well exactly. you know when we talk about what motivates them he was telling me this is a colleague of mine a reporter who i've known since bosnia. he was arrested captured by isis about a year ago, and was released last april. he was in captivity with james foley, with steven sotloff, with peter kassig with the american who is have been slaughtered and the brits who have been slaughter. they were held by this guy, jihadi john who is notorious
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now. he said a couple of things a, they're very violent, he used the word psychopathic. these people have come from criminal back grounds in the west. have gone over to use their criminality and give it maximum exposure and action with isis. they were the cruelest of the cruel. and they treated the hostages very harshly. particularly james foley. but he also said importantly this had nothing to do with islam. they never talked about islam. they never talked about the koran. they never tried to persuade them that this was about some kind of islam. this was very very political. why are you killing muslims? we're going to kill you, we hate the west we hate democracy. that's what was going on amongst this group of jihadis. this was quite an important revelation into their motivation. >> that is very instructive and we're basically out of time. how did he get out? >> well i think ransom was paid. he doesn't know for sure. but if you remember this happened before the west started bombing isis.
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before isis took mosul and before there was a campaign. he believes that had he been part of the hostages who remained after july after june when the bombing of isis started, there's no way he would have got out. >> christiane thank you very much. obviously this is far from the end of this situation. we look on calling you again very soon. and look you heard what christiane said the guys didn't mention islam a lot when they were talking to the prisoners, that squares what we saw in this video. burning someone alive isn't an obvious crime against humanity it's an obvious crime against the tenets of a religion. from that we're going to turn to boston. quite a day there after an epic super bowl win. an epic snow the city of boston finally ready to celebrate their patriots. we're going to take you live to the parade route ahead.
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breaking overnight stunning dash cam video capturing a plane as it crashes in taiwan. the image is from tbbs taiwan show the trans-asia flight clipping a bridge before it plunges into the river. of the 58 people aboard 21 are confirmed dead. the search for missing passengers continues at this hour. the good news is there are survivors, rescuers have recovered the plane's black boxes. another crash at home seven people dead after a metro north commuter train slammed into a jeep just north of new york
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city. officials say the crossing gates came down on the car. the driver apparently got out to look just before her jeep was hit. this is the deadliest accident in metro north's history. a new twist in the death of the argentine special prosecutor he apparently wanted the country's president arrested. investigators say alberto nisam had drafted an arrest warrant accusing the president of a role in the bombing of a jewish center in buenos aires. nisam was found dead and it's not clear if he killed himself or was murdered. a pair of lucky doings in northern michigan this dog jumped into the icy waters of betsie bay. a search and rescue team pulled the dog to safety. a happy puppy there. and in massachusetts, a black puppy rescued tuesday after
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bolting on to a partially frozen river to chase swans. firefighters were able to fish her out of the soup. so glad they're both okay. >> wonderful heroes getting out these dogs. >> both labs no surprise, they love the water more than they should. up in new england, they've been getting beat down by snow. they need a reason to celebrate and so -- they have one today. patriot pride, boston set to honor the super bowl champs with a big parade today. let's gi g to cnn's jason carroll in boston where the festivities are going to get under way. i see you've gotten there early to secure yourself a prime spot. >> a prime spot and they're not going to probably be a lot of spots left when the parade gets under way at 11:00. all the snow mounds along the parade route here and the mayor has made it clear, he does not want the people coming out on the parade to stand on the mounds it's going to be a safety issue. along on the parade route here
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on boylston street if you look where we are there's not a lot of space here. it might be an issue in some spots of the parade route. on the other side you can see there is about six feet between the barrier and the sides. there ra lot of folks who wanted the parade to be postponed until this weekend. the problem with that is the mayor was worried since the players are on vacation he was worried perhaps there wouldn't be any players around to celebrate. that's why they postponed the parade until today. hundreds of thousands of people expected to come out here line the parade route as you said. the city looking for a reason to celebrate. and this afternoon, they'll have one. chris in. >> jason, thanks for being there. the mayor might as well tell people do not cheer and not drink hot toddys. >> they can't stand on the mounds can they sled down them? >> can they stand on each other's shoulders. >> they f they wouldn't want them on them they shouldn't be there. back to the top story, the gruesome video showing a jordanian fighter pilot being
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breaking this morning, jordan taking revenge on isis executing two jailed terrorists for the brutal and depraved murder of a jordanian fighter pilot. as the fight against isis heats up who's in charge of the terror group? what's their strategy? let's turn to paul cruickshank, good morning to you. we have to talk about what is happening here and i think this
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gruesome thing is something hard for us all to even grasp. let's look at the organization that's committing these atrocities and the leaders at the head talk about the two men that we know abu bakr al-baghdadi. >> he's the leader of the group. u.s. officials believe he's alive. and while he's got a reputation for extreme brutality. he probably signed offen this grisly murder. >> he's calling the shots, he's got this lieutenant abu mohammed adani, he's a syrian. >> the top syrian in the group. the key spokesman, he's the guy who has been issuing all the fatwas for lone wolf terrorist attacks in the west. >> and another one that we know too well is sort of this public face that we've seen gruesomely in these horrific beheadings we don't know that he has been involved or was there for the horrifying murder in a cage burned to death of this jordanian pilot, jihadi john.
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tell us anything more we know and how is he linked to these two other figures? >> he's like a junior figure. >> he's a henchman. >> he's been orchestrating the beheadings and is based around raqqa in syria. the brits believe they know his identity. but have not been releasing it. >> we know that the u.s. has claimed that several leaders in isis have been killed. do we know where their leadership stands at this point? is it an ever-shifting one? >> it is ever-shifting. there's been some claims that half the leadership have been killed. independent experts have been somewhat skeptical about that. but there's no doubt that these airstrikes have taken a toll on the group and on the leadership. >> i want to ask you about this this brutal burning of this jordanian pilot. because we've been talking about it quite extensively. is it showing a shift in the strategy and the tactics that they're taking? or does it show desperation? ha does it say to you? >> i think isis has been remarkably consistent pulling out these kind of brutal videos
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and this sort of a method to the madness, you know we saw in iraq last year they put out a bunch of these kind of videos. it really did weaken the resolve of the iraqi military. they turned and fled from mosul. despite the fact they had overriding majority in terms of numbers this time round it's likely to back-fire. there's increased support for king abdullah and his involvement in the anti-isis coalition. a lot of anger right through the middle east. sunni arabs against isis for this utterly brutal act. >> specifically because they changed their tactic in burning him this was not a beheading, brutal. this was even more gruesome and ghastly. and it's very anti-islam it doesn't stand for anything in islam. tell bus the significance of that. >> well you know clearly sort of burning with fire something you know the muslim faith very they're very much against. you know anybody watching this thing, it's just utterly horrific. and i think people right throughout the middle east are absolutely appalled by what they've seen.
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>> what do we know about jordan? because this is this is the big question right now. a, how they're going to respond. we've seen two terrorists hostage or two terrorist prisoners there hanged. they've been executed. do you think this is going to be the reaction? or do you think there's more coming? >> there's going to be a lot, lot more. jordan is going to increase involvement in air strikes, they have very significant intelligence capabilities in syria and in iraq. back in 2006 they were very much involved in that u.s. airstrike which killed the founder of isis. abu musab al-zarqawi. so i think we can expect them to step up their involvement in this war on isis. but here's the worry, that isis and its supporters could themselves retaliate, with strikes in -- >> there's a good number of -- >> in jordan. >> jordanian fighters within isis. >> up to 2,000 jordanians believed to be fighting in syria and iraq with various jihadi groups including isis. up to 9,000 pro jihadi
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activities believed to be active in jordan. just this summer there were demonstrations in a couple of jordan towns in support of isis. so that's going to be a big worry for the jordanians. there's a homegrown extremism problem and there's the potential for terrorist attacks in the kingdom like we saw in 2005. >> this changes the game for jordan's involvement. it has been part of the coalition, but because this has been seen as somebody's war, they haven't taken a full approach to it but because of this brutal murder of one of their own pilots and the fight could come to their own territory, they have to be fully engaged. >> it's a real game-changer it's increased support in jordan for king abdullah. his involvement in the anti-isis coalition. but you know isis gets a vote in this too, there's a possibility it will launch attacks in the kin dom, that's a very worrying possibility. >> a spokesman from jordan's government said those who doubted the atrocities committed by isis have proved in reaction
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marie callender's knows dinner tastes better when it's homemade. like chicken blanketed in golden breadcrumbs and wholesome sides with her signatures touches. marie callender's. here is the deal in ukraine. at least 225 civilians have been killed in less than a month. and thousands overall. that's according to the u.n. in donetsk, cnn's nick paton walsh captured this footage of the airport, just rubble now, it was just rebuilt in 2012. you remember this summer we took threw when the fighting was just
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starting it was called a police action mh-17 was shot done. now parts of the whole region look like that crash site. it is a humanitarian catastrophe. people are fleeing indiscriminate shelling. what has been done so far to help? is not working. so what will the u.s. and europe do for ukraine and against russia? that's the big question. here's someone who can help us answer it retired general wesley clark. he is now a senior fellow at the ucla berkeley center and a former nato supreme allied commander. general, thank you for joining us. you were just in ukraine. do you have any question any mitigating affect as to whether or not russia is deeply involved there in real ways? and that this situation only gets worse if nothing is done? >> well chris, russia is deeply involved they've been involved from the very start. it's been a russian takeover plan that was rehearsed, it
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began with special forces seizing the buildings in donetsk and luhansk. and russian forces have been there at least since july of 2014. this is major combat. it's not just the humanitarian catastrophe. it's not ethnic cleansing like we saw in the balkans in yugoslavia in the 1990s. this is actually major combat. so when i was there the ukrainians told me. i was there in november during the period when we had u.s. elections, i was in ukraine. as they explained, this is real combat. we've lost more soldiers in six weeks in fighting in ukraine than you americans lost in six years in iraq. and that intensive combat continues today in ukraine. >> do you think the ukraine forces can hold off this insurgency? >> well it's not an insurgency
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it is it's a calculated battle with russian direction, support and russian troops involved. maybe 8,000 to 9,000 troops russian troops organized in battalion level combat teams with russian artillery. russian direction. russian unmanned aerial vehicles and on the outside of ukraine, a big package of russian air power waiting to come in. so this is going to be a fight that ukraine probably cannot succeed in without getting some support from western allies. there would be another way to solve this if the piece paes process that was initiated in august with the minsk agreement was actually initiated. it called for the withdrawal of foreign fighters respect of borders. none of that has been implemented. it's a sham. and president putin is the key
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participant in this and the key manager of the peace process, he's playing the game. >> that's right. playing the game. that's why these calls by the u.s. and their diplomats to say we have to start by honoring the minsk agreement seem hollow at best. the big question is what does the west specifically the u.s. do? it seems there are two paths. one is escalate. we hear the secretary of state saying we're going to give them defensive weapons and equipment and assets to help them fight. and that will essentially create a proxy war situation for the u.s. against russia. and it will escalate. do you think that is the right option? >> first of all, i don't think that can you stabilize this situation and get a diplomatic settlement unless there's more stability on the ground. so yes, the ukrainians need military assistance they need substantial military assistance. not just a few anti-tank weapons. right now, we've given
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nominally, $150 million worth of stuff. some are night vision goggles, sure they're helpful. but we haven't given anything substantial enough to make a difference. we're not geared up to do so so it would be many weeks before substantial u.s. assistance were there. what i would like to do is go back to the play we ran in the 1990s that brought an end to the fighting in the balkans. in which the united states holds out the threat of the massive rearmament of the ukrainian fighters against putin and encourages him to undertake a diplomatic agreement that really does stop the fighting roll it back, and deal with the question of crimea. and i think if you couch it in that way, can you bring u.s. leadership to bear. can you also bring the europeans on board. and you have a chance of preventing an escalation of the combat. >> well the concern with that
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theory is that russia doesn't fear the stick. and that the threat of force plays into what putin is all about. and the second option as i understand it at this point is that you just keep the course stay the course of squeezing sanctions against russia. and hoping that oil prices keep depressing keep depressing their commercial power there. and eventually the war becomes too expensive for him to continue. what about that option? >> well i don't think that's a winning hand. i think what happens is that other events intervene, i think the ukrainian defense crumbles. remember putin has got three major efforts going against ukraine. he's got the military effort. he's got the economic effort. using gas as a weapon demanding he be repaid. and he's got a political effort. he still has his tentacles inside ukraine. and ukraine is trying to establish a corruption-free democracy in the middle of a
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fight for its very existence. so it's a tough political problem inside ukraine. no i think that time has come after a year of this that you've got to have a different policy. but i think there's a middle course that i've just articulated between simply sending weapons in. and simply continuing with the current course of action. and i think it's up to the united states and u.s. leadership to define this course and lead it if we want to stabilize and roll back conflict in eastern europe. i don't think russia is strong enough to resist strongly rearmed ukraine. to be honest with you, russia's modernization program is only partially completed. but the longer this goes on the more troops and equipment he trains and rotates in and out of ukraine, the stronger russia becomes. he's using it as a training ground. much as hitler did with the spanish civil war in the 1930s. >> and you've pointed out that there is historical context
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here you said just squeezing economically and with sanctions, that's what the west did to japan. before it forced japan into world war ii in some people's estimate. so general, thank you for the perspective, both from the ground and from history of what's worked in the past. let's see what we figure out going forward. we look forward to calling on you for help in that. again, 5,000 people killed 12,000 wounded in just eastern ukraine. that's why we're covering it. it matters. we're following a lot of news this morning. so let's get to it. spectacular plane crash in taiwan caught on a car's dash cam. >> it looks to me like one of the propellers was not turning. at least 12 are dead but scores still missing. a devastatingly ugly situation to see. >> there was a passenger that ran past me he had blood on his face. >> there was panic going on towards the front of the train. >> people were trapped inside there were multiple fatalities. jordan is retaliating
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against isis after a captive firefighter pilot was burned alive. >> it's truly horrifying when you watch the video. that's meant to inflict terror. >> it's one more indication of the viciousness and barbarity of this organization. >> announcer: this is "new day," with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota and michaela pereira. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. >> good morning and welcome back to "new day." we are following breaking news for you, we have three major breaking stories this morning. here at home and around the world. jordan hanging two terrorists in retaliation for the barbaric execution of its captured fighter pilot by isis. we'll bring you more on that story in a moment. but first, two spectacular and tragic crashes to tell you about. one, a fiery train wreck just north of new york city. and the other, a plane crash in taiwan with a dramatic rescue. let's start there. take a look at this. it's a twin-engine plane in
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taiwan. not long after takeoff. you see it there? this is caught on jaw-dropping dash cam video. it started up in the left. just missed those buildings, hits the highway and falls into a very shallow river. we have new information about survivors and fatalities. cnn's david mckenzie is monitoring developments live in beijing. what do we know? >> chris, i want to give you the late thebt morning. at least 21 dead that's numbers rising unfortunately from aviation authorities in taipei. they say 15 injured, and then scores still missing. 22 missing. amazing in fact that anyone managed to leave that plane. some of them in fact walking on their own steam in that shallow river as you describe after the plane ditched in the river. aviation authorities from trans-asia ails apologizing to the passengers and crew. this is the second deadly crash the airline has had in seven months in the region. they say they've recovered the
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black boxes or the flight data recorders. we should get more idea what happened with this bizarre and dramatic crash in taipei this morning. but for now, it's still very much a mystery. ailsen? >> okay, thanks so much for that update. now to the train crash just outside new york city. this is the train line that hundreds of thousands of commuters take in and out of work every week. this is the deadliest accident ever for that railroad. seven people dead after a train slammed into a jeep stuck on the tracks. cnn's deborah feyerick is at the crash site. what's the latest? >> we can tell thaw the train cars here behind me this is where the impact happened here at the front of the train cars. the jeep cherokee stuck on the tracks. unclear as to whether the woman tried to beat the gate that was coming down as the train was arriving or whether she simply got stuck with her wheels skidding out because of the icy conditions. all of that is under
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investigation. by ntsb investigators who are on their way here. but thick black clouds of smoke billowing from the impact of the train. you can even smell some of the smoke still in the air. this morning, commuters in new york reeling. after a train crash left seven people dead at least a dozen injured tuesday evening. >> there was a passenger that ran past me he had blood on his face. and people were pulling the windows off, trying to get out through the emergency windows. screaming, yelling. it was just total panic. >> it was rush hour just around 7:00 p.m. when this metro north train traveling on the tracks north of new york city heading from grand central terminal to valhalla, collided with an suv. >> you could tell there was panic going on towards the front of the train. like walk back, walk back. >> according to metro transit authority officials, the gate at the train crossing closed down on sust. the female driver got out to look at the rear of her jeep
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cherokee and that's when the train struck. >> there was an explosion. >> there was smoke in the head car and we saw a couple of flames. >> we were able to get off in time. but it was scary. >> the explosion leaving behind a plume of smoke billowing from the cabs. about 650 people aboard. >> the third rail of the track came up from the explosion and went right through the car. so it is truly a devastatingly ugly situation to see. >> the driver of the suv and six train passengers killed. the ntsb sending a go team to investigate the crash later today. >> when you look at the damage done it's actually amazing that not more people were hurt on that train. >> this deadly train collision comes on the heels of a november ntsb report finding that five metro north accidents that killed six and injured more than 100 passengers were all
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preventible. and at the time the mta said it would be taking steps to insure it improved rail safety. we can dell thaw the ntsb investigators are on their way here. because there weren't more fatalities chris and alisyn a lot of people simply self-evacuated once they understood that the impact and the fire was at the front cars they began walking back as you heard. many of them jumping into snowbanks in frigid weather trying to get as far away from the train as possible. chris? >> deb, we have that train crash here in the u.s. we have the plane crash in taiwan. but they both raise the same question -- why did they happen? let's bring in cnn aviation analyst and bpbs science correspondent, miles o'brien and mary sciavo cnn aviation analyst and former inspector general for the u.s. department of transportation. why does it seem there have been so many plane crashes in asia?
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>> it seems like it would be hard to connect the dots. we're talking about all kinds of different circumstances and all kinds of different aircraft. i think the thread that runs through all of this which we should all be focused on is an area where there is rapid growth in aviation. tremendous amount of pressure to meet that demand. and the question which comes up is -- how are the aircraft being maintained and how is the training being conducted? are these pilots being properly trained? have they learned the lessons that we have learned here over the years? frankly with a lot of people who have lost their lives. and you have to wonder if those lessons are being take ton heart in this rapid-growing region. think it's time to really look deep behind all of this. >> well the aircraft itself is supposedly pretty new. maintenance may be an issue. but it seems that you are going to wind up focusing more on what was done in the dockcockpit.
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mary you made an observation, it's hard to tell from this. we tried to slow it down. one of the things we tried to isolate is when you slow it down it does seem as though the port side the left side propeller is going much more slowly than the starboard, the right side. what does that mean to you? >> well to me it suggest has that you're having a left engine problem. it could be one of two things it could have lost power to the left engine. or they could have a problem with something called the auto feather. those propeller blades actually turn to help you get the maximum performance out of your engine. and here after takeoff, they didn't have a lot of wiggle room. most dangerous time of the flight especially on a twin turboprop plane. if they lost an engine there, i guess they would have gotten a mayday call out. would you have time with an engine failure. you would want to clear the runway would you want to head straight from the nearest runway. it looked from looking at the video footage, at the 7:00 a.m. hour that they had a left engine failure or a prop
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feathering failure. >> one benefit of discovery is that there shouldn't be any mystery. the plane is there, they'll be able to discover the information. it happened so soon after takeoff and the plane obviously almost hit the buildings, it could have been worse, obviously. it does go to suggestions about what the pilots were doing, right? obviously if the left prop isn't moving maybe they had an engine problem. it's why they got do that point. >> i think there's a lot of evidence here that they lost power on that left engine. there's two things that are really crucial to think about. was the prop feathered? it's the difference when you put your hand outside the window in car and you hold it out flat like a plow versus holding it parallel if you have aerodynamic drag on a failed engine it's very difficult, if not impossible to recover. the other thing the crew needed to do was step very hard on the right rudder of this aircraft to get the plane going the right direction, without banking too heavily. so those are two key things which we'll get from both the
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cockpit voice recorder and the flight data recorder. >> now, i don't understand any of that but obviously that's because i'm not a pilot. mary is miles talking about sophisticated flight moves that only the best of the best would know? or is this what you're supposed to know how to do in this type of aircraft? >> well in fact you get that training as you move from a single engine plane, which is how you start your training to a twin-engine plane. you get the training on the first day. because flying a twin turbo-prop plane, if you lose one engine the survival rates on flights are actually worse than a single-engine plane if you lose the engine. why? because you have to balance out the thrust and lift on both of those wings, and it's very tricky. but that's something you learn early in the flight training days on your twin turboprop as miles correctly explained. you have to feather the engines, too, and the prop. so it's basic training early on. >> we're lucky that people walked away from that at all. the numbers are still evolving.
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but people certainly survived. hopefully we'll get answers. let's switch to the train quickly, mary. we're hearing that this jeep got on to the tracks and that the crossing bars hit it. how does the car get into that situation? do you blame the crossing equipment for that? what does that sound like to you? >> well there could be many possibilities, one is that the lights and the audible warning signals, the bells didn't work to let them know that the gates were going to come down. that's one thing they will look at. they will be checking that. two, if someone tries to beat the bells and the lights and beat the gates going down that's sadly a very common scenario in an accident. and the third thing is also the warning alarms the horns of the train. there are very specific rules about when the train has to blow its horn how fast it's traveling as it approaches the crossing. at what point it blows the horn. all of that will be on the train's recorder. but we've put a lot of restrictions on trains over the years. people don't like the noise of the horns, but yet the horns of the trains announcing that it's
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coming a mile or two down the track can be life-saving and all of those things have to be reviewed when they look at this accident. but it's unfortunately it's a very common scenario that people try to beat the gates and the outcome is not good. >> while this is the deadliest crash in metro north history. people say seven deaths it could have been so much worse, 650 people on the train. what do you make of the fact that the ntsb has a report that just came out saying the prior crash were preventible. do we know whether or not steps were taken to improve procedures and safety? or not? and that may have contributed here. >> boy, that's a very important question. because the ntsb while they work to save all of our lives in transportation accidents and crashes, they can only make recommendations. and what they do is they make their recommendations to the rail administration. federal rail. and then it's up to them to put these into place. so their recommendations haven't had time to be fully implemented. and of course we the rail rules are not the same as the
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aviation rules. obviously every time you get on a plane you learn where the exits are and you're told how to open them and you have to verbally say yes, i will help in the event of an emergency, none of that happens on a train. think the ntsb will look at that and say when the conduct sr coming through, why can't they say, here's the exit. here's how you open it. and those might be recommendations. >> miles o'brien, mary sciavo thank you very much. michaela. more breaking news jordan has promised an earth-shaking response and overnight jordanian authorities hanging two jailed al qaeda terrorists including the female bomber isis had wanted freed. deadly retaliation for the barbaric videotaped murder of a captured jordanian pilot who was burned alive in a cage. cnn has reporters on the ground in jordan and at the pentagon. we'll start with atika shubert tracking the latest developments live for us from oman jordan. atika? >> that's right, michaela. jordan's king abdullah has just arrived here. he's now at the moment visiting
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the army barracks there, clearly to try and gather more support for the fight against isis. and we just come back from a prayer service for muath al-kasasbeh, the jordanian pilot who was killed in the brutal video from isis. and at the moment what we're hearing is support for the jordanian government's fight against isis. in fact we're hearing people saying that the jordanian military should annihilate isis. that in fact they want to see more air strikes, more military offensive, as a result of this. so if isis was trying to divide public opinion it seems that for now, that is not succeeding. but that could change over the next few days. and so the key question will be you know we've seen the execution of these two prisoners on jordan's death row. will that be enough? what more does the public need to see? what is jordan going to do as a key member of this coalition. >> atika, i'm curious, you've been talking about what the
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government's reaction has been what you're hearing in local media i'm curious what the everyday person how they're reacting to this gruesome and heinous murder. >> look i spoke to one man at the prayer service, he was horrified. he had a smile child with him. he said this is just horrific. this does not represent anything in the arab world or islam. for him, this was an offense not just to the fact that he was jordanian, but his religion. everything about it. and there is why he said this he wants the jordanian military to pull out all the stops in its fight against isis. but when i asked him, is it more than air strikes? do you want to see boots on the ground troop, jordanian troops going into iraq in syria to fight isis hand to hand? he said no. i just want to see airstrikes for now. you think they'll do more damage that way. there's a big question as to just how much of this public opinion is going to push the military the coalition into taking more military action. >> atika, we understand that
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king abdullah arrived back in jordan a short time ago. he had cut short his visit to washington, d.c. to return in the wake of this jordanian pilot being so again, i can't use any other word heinously murdered. i'm curious, in terms of what is expected do you anticipate that there's going to be some sort of comment from him to the people of jordan? well zbl >> what we expect is we know he's gone to the army barracks to speak with the members of the armed forces. we also expect him to go to karak. this is the area where the al-kasasbeh family comes from. it's key for his own political support to be able 0 show them that he is there for them he has their concerns in mind. and that he is doing everything he can to safeguard the members of their family that are fighting in this coalition. there have been doubts in jordan about whether or not jordan should be a member of the coalition.
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whether they should be fighting against isis. let's not forget that jordan itself has a number of foreign fighters that have gone to fight in iraq and syria. so he has a very careful line to tread here. and the next few days will be delicate. >> atika, we thank you for your great reporting and context there from oman jordan we appreciate it. more now on the u.s. reaction to the gruesome murder of the jordanian fighter pilot. let's bring in pentagon correspondent barbara starr. what's the latest there, barbara? >> this morning u.s. and jordanian intelligence services scouring every frame of that terrible video to see if they can get any clues about the identities of the perpetrators. isis released a 22-minute video of jordanian pilot lieutenant muath al-kasasbeh being burned alive in a locked steel cage. cnn choosing not to show the gruesome video. >> it's truly horrifying when you watch the video. that's meant to inflict terror. >> jordan announced the murder
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likely took place a month ago soon after the pilot crashed in northern syria, an isis stronghold. recently isis threatened to kill the pilot if jordan didn't release sajida al-rishawi the failed iraqi suicide bomber who attacked a wedding party in jordan nearly a decade ago. al-rishawi one of the two already on death row, put to death by jordan. >> i think the executions were more to satisfy the demand for action of the king. >> news of the pilot's death coming as jordan's king abdullah was visiting washington. in a message recorded before rushing home the king called for jordanians to quote stand together and show the mettle of the jordanian people in unity determination and resolve. president obama and other u.s. officials expressing solidarity with this close ally in the
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u.s.-led military coalition to degrade and eventually defeat isis. >> it's just one more indication of the viciousness and barbarity of this organization. >> and what does happen next? well u.s. officials are aware that the jordanians are talking about stepping up their participation in the airstrikes. but at this point no clear decisions have been made. alisyn? >> barbara, thanks for much for that background. in a few minutes we'll be joined by senator angus king who was with king abdullah shortly after he received the news of the pilot's murder. in the 8:00 hour we'll hear from senator john mccain on what the u.s. will do. canada says it has busted an isis terror cell. three ottawa men all in their 20s have been charged with terrorism-related offenses. but only one of them was arrested. the other two are believed to be fighting with isis in syria or iraq right now. and they were therefore charged
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in absentia. federal health officials getting hammered over vaccinations in the wake of a measles outbreak and a brutal flu season. lawmakers asked how measles has made a strong comeback despite being elimb dmated back in 2000. and when asked if parents should vaccinate their children all four health experts said yes. lawmakers also questioned why the flu vaccine is only 23% effective this year. the health experts said by the time it was clear that the vaccine would not be ideal, it was too late to make a new batch. more science news the uk is set do approve a ground-breaking and some say unethical baby-making method. using dna from three people. the invitro fertilization procedure uses dna from two women and one man, supporters say the technique can stop genetic diseases from being passed from mother to child. but critics call it genetic modification that could lead to designer babies. the method has yet to be approved. by the house of lords, but it is
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expected to pass. such an interesting story. i mean often we see science is ahead of ethics. it takes ethics a while to figure out if this is right or wrong. but the science can do it. >> and it sounds like it makes sense for families especially if there's a woman who has some sort of ongoing disease that could be passed to the child. they want to avoid that but then it open as whole other pandora's box. >> the box is opened. the can versus should. we're past that. you know you can, the question is what do you do and what don't you do. it's going to be very difficult not just legally but culturally. we will keep our eyes peeled for all of that. meanwhile, after an isis video shows a captured pilot being burned alive, jordan executes two terrorist prisoners, will the murder of this pilot trigger an even larger global response? we'll get the plan from washington, next. the real question that needs to be asked is "what is it that we can do that is impactful?" what the cloud enables is computing to empower cancer researchers. it used to take two weeks to sequence and analyze a genome;
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jordan moving to avenge the barbaric murder of its captured fighter pilot. executing two jailed al qaeda terrorists how will the world respond now to isis? let's bring in angus king an independent senator from maine, he is a member of the senate armed services committee and the intelligence committee. senator, thanks for being on "new day" this morning. >> good to join you. >> one of the reasons we wanted to talk to you we understand you were with jordan's king abdullah after the news broke that isis had burned this pilot to death in a locked cage. what did king abdullah say to
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you? >> well it was an extraordinary moment. it was just a few hours, it was a meeting from the armed services commitsty. a closed meeting with the king. i would say, i don't want to characterize specifically what he said. but i would say he was -- obviously disturbed and shaken. but absolutely resolute. that's what came through to us. he and his government and his people are going to respond to this in a serious way. that started this morning. and i believe we're going to see a serious response from the nation of jordan. and from other muslim nations. this this could be a tipping point, alisyn because these, these countries have somewhat been standing on the sidelines and now they've got to step up. because this is a threat to civilization itself. and to their countries. and this has to be the king em emphasized this. this has to be a war involving muslims and arabs against this
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outrageous group. it can't be the west. it can't be americans. it's not going to be effective otherwise. and there's an old poem from the 19th century. there comes a moment to every man and nation when it is time to decide. and i think it's time for the muslim world to decide that this is this conduct just can't be tolerated. >> senator, is it true that king abdullah said that starting tomorrow jordan would launch more sortie missions against isis than ever before? >> well i don't want to again, i don't feel comfortable relay ing comments. an even greater response. but the emphasis i think has to be this can't just be jordan. and i was in the middle east two
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weeks ago, and got the sense in both saudi arabia and qatar that they're getting the idea they can't play this thing on both sides. they can't stand on the sidelines. this is a threat to them and as well as to us. i mean i watched that video last night. it wasn't it wasn't fun or something i wanted to do. but it's just unbelievable. these people literally are living in the 8th century. this is middle ages. this is ghengis khan kind of stuff. i think they overstepped. remember the guy they burned alive yesterday was a sunni muslim. one of their brothers it wasn't an american or a british citizen. it was a sunni muslim. and i think the rest of the muslim world is going to have to wake up and realize that these people are committing horrible crimes in their name and really perverting the name of the prophet and of islam.
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some people have likened this moment to the same kind of galvanizing feeling to really fight isis. if jordan were to step up its air campaign against isis would that make a difference in defeating them? >> well certainly it would make a difference but no war has ever been won is entirely by air-power. there's gotting to follow-on. to ultimately root these guys out of mosul and raqqa and northern and western iraq. they're going to have to be people there on the ground. there's going to have to be troops. and some people say well they're not going to be americans because we don't want to send them. that's part of it but the reality is it won't work. if those troops are western, that's exactly what isis wants. they want this to be a crusade. they want this to be the west against islam. and it's got to be it's got to come from the muslim countries and that's why i think this could be a galvanizing moment.
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this really could be a tipping point. we don't know yet. it's going to take days and weeks for the fallout to be realized. but this could be a dipping point. they may have overplayed their hands here. particularly by doing such a horrible thing to one of their brothers in faith. >> senator, what should the u.s. response be to this moment? >> one of the specific things we talked yesterday, senator joe manchin asked the king a question. apparently there's some bureaucratic problems with getting the proper equipment to the jordanians. i can assure you, you may see record time legislation or simply some work between congress and the administration to be sure that those problems are worked out. one of the things we can do is to continue our leadership of the coalition, to continue to expand the coalition. but also to be sure they have the up-to-date equipment that they need.
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that was the one specific that was talked about and i think we're going to tackle that directly today. >> okay. senator angus king, thank you for joining "new day" and giving us all that information. let's get over to michaela. ahead an update on the deadly metro crash. metro north crash that killed seven people in new york. we're awaiting a live news conference. we're going to bring that news conference to you live when it happens. help guide your retirement savings. our experience is one reason 100% of our retirement funds beat their 10-year lipper averages. so wherever your long-term goals take you we can help you feel confident. request a prospectus or summary prospectus with investment information, risks, fees and expenses to read and consider carefully before investing. call us or your advisor. t. rowe price. invest with confidence.
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. seven people are dead outside new york city making it the deadliest accident for metro north rail line ever. it carries some 300,000 people to work every day. it was the height of rush hour when the train slammed into a jeep that had supposedly gotten stuck. we have deb feyerick live from the scene monitoring the situation. got stuck. what does that mean deb? what do we understand about how the jeep got there? >> well that's all going to be under investigation. it's unclear whether in fact it was a signal problem, and so the jeep began to cross over the tracks or whether in fact the car tried to beat the gate as it was closing.
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we do know it was on the wrong side of the gate. it had crossed over and was unable to move forward or back. that's when the train hit it blunt force, sending huge flames and dark billowing smoke into the air. but the ntsb is on their way here. the investigators trying to determine exactly what happened whether it was human error or whether it was some sort of a signal error. there's a lot of ice in this area over the last couple of days the tracks have been icy. the signals have been freezing they're going to look at all of that. we do expect an ntsb presser within the next couple of minutes. and then at 8:00 we're expecting an additional press conference by one of the county executives here in westchester. to get more details as to what they know about why this happened. chris? deb, thank you very much. >> let's go to mary sciavo our cnn aviation lifrt and former inspector general for the u.s.
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department of transportation. you heard what metro north officials are saying this is the deadliest accident in their history. and we know that the ntsb has cited metro north as one of their biggest safety concerns. >> that's right. in a report issued last week of their top ten most wanted safety issues rail safety passenger rail safety is among the most urgent things in the country to improve the safety. there can be other entities involved as well. cognizant rail line or the cognizant responsibility for the signals, the lights and that particular crossing. might not necessarily be metro north. although probably it is. and then there are rules on when you can and can't blow your train whistle. there's so many things to consider here. the ntsb will look at them all and look at survivability factors, what would have helped more people survive. >> a former ntsb person told
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"the new york times" it's unusual for a passenger train to burst into flames in a crash. what does that say to you about what may have happened here. >> i agree with that statement. it is very unusual. what we would, what the ntsb will be looking at was it the fuel from the vehicle? what else caught fire? was it something from the tracks? what role did any sorts of electrical wires and electrical arcing play? what was cut in the accident? but it is unusual to see this. unless now you do see it when you have a freight train, where a freight train is carrying tanker cars or other sorts of flammable materials or chemicals. you see that a lot. but not for passenger trains the article seems to hit on something very important. >> mary sciavo great analysis thank you for that. will officials handle this horrible train crash? we'll speak with new york's governor andrew cuomo in just a moment.
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railroad has left seven people dead, north of new york city the train wag traveling during the evening commute when it slammed into a jeep that had gotten stuck on the tracks. let's bring in new york's governor andrew cuomo. mr. governor thanks so much for joining us this morning. what have investigators told you about what caused this crash? >> good morning, alisyn. well the investigators have a preliminary analysis. this is a situation that there will be a full investigation, there's the equivalent of the black box and once that is revealed you'll have an electronic record of exactly what happened. but what appears to have happened is just as you suggested, the metro north line came out of grand central station, it was headed up towards duchess, duchess county. and it hit a, suv which was on the tracks. pushed the suv about 400 feet. it appears that the suxt went on fire.
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and that fire then extended to the train. so between the fire and the collision, there was quite a bit of damage in the front end of the train. the driver of the car perished. and as did another six people who were basically in the first car of the train. and we have about nine very serious injuries. it's hard to say why the car was on the tracks. and i think we'll wait for a full investigation before that's reached. if there's anything to learn from it. certainly the mta wants to learn from it. but sometimes, alisyn accidents just happen. and more and more on this job, i take very seriously how precious life is how random it can be. there are seven people yesterday who set out for work and said i'll see you tonight, honey, i love you. and never came home. so it's a sober reminder. >> that is tragic.
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and accidents do happen but what happened after the accident is also under scrutiny this morning. because the passengers on board say they weren't even aware, some of them of the impact. they just knew that the train came to a complete halt. they heard over the loudspeakers someone say the train has struck a car. that's it. and then they smelled gas fumes, they never heard any sort of evacuation order. they never heard any safety instructions. is it time to examine railroad safety and what passengers are told? >> well you know alisyn i was there last night and i can tell you this there are a lot of people who heard a lot of different things which is the nature of the situation like this. there was no doubt that the train hit something. i don't know that they would have known it necessarily was an suv. but there was no doubt that people knew there was a collision. they could hear that and they knew there was a fire because it was significant smoke.
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coming. obviously there was a panic confusion in the aftermath. loud noise, the third rail actually came through the bottom of the train. so it was a horrendous scene. >> i guess what i'm referring to was the procedure to get people off. it seemed as though there was confusion and there weren't instructions being given. >> yeah. i don't know. you know those are the things that we have to study and we have to find out and we will. and obviously if there's a new procedure or a lesson that we clern, we will do just that. but also alisyn sometimes there are accidents and accidents happen. and we're not sure what the exact particulars were about this one. but again if there's any lessons to learn, we would love to because the safer we can make travel the better. >> the last deadly crash on the metro north line was in december of 2013. there's a derailment at that
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time. four passengers were killed. it was the second deadliest crash. seven others were injured. and a after that the ntsb investigated the metro north railroad to try to improve the safety of its passengers, for its passengers. here's what the report read that came out in november. two months ago. the ntsb found that the metro north railroad did not effectively investigate accidents and incidents and address known deficiencies to continuously improve and revise processes to prevent recurrences. that's pretty damning, governor. is there something for metro north to change and learn from this report and now from the accident? >> well i think so. i think before my time metro north overly stressed being on time. which doesn't sound like a bad thing. but being on time means you're going to drive the trains fast. you're going to hurry up because
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you want to meet the schedule and that was the priority for metro north. that was the culture of the organization you have to be on time. we came in and we're replacing the culture with you have to be safe first. being on time is great. but being safe is the first priority. and mta is reorienting. in the previous accident you mentioned there was a situation, apparently the conductor of the train, the driver of the train had a sleep apnea illness that went undiagnosed. and dozed off for a moment. actually and went into a curve at too high a rate of speed. and the train came off the tracks literally. so there was a lesson to learn there. i don't know what the lesson is here. and i don't think anyone does alisyn. again, there was a train in the middle of the tracks why was the, there was a car in the middle of the track.
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why was it there? how did it get there? could it have been prevented. could there have been better evacuation procedures? those will be the questions that will be asked. last night it was a very difficult situation. fire cold bitterly cold. and the first respond who are came out, the police the fire the ems, they did a magnificent job. and considering the brutality of the incident. that more people didn't die, we're actually i don't want to use the word lucky. but it could have been a lot worse. >> thank goodness for the first responders. we also understand the ntsb has just finished a press conference and a go team of investigators is on its way to the crash site. governor cuomo thanks so much for talking with us this morning. >> thank you. jordan has executed two prisoners in response to the vicious killing of one of their fighter pilots is the pilot's death a turning point in the battle against isis? we'll take a look. 3rd and 3. 58 seconds on the clock, what am i thinking about?
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war against isis is at a tipping point? let's bring in two people who know. cnn global affairs analyst retired lieutenant colonel james reese and cnn counter terrorism analyst phil mudd. phil i start with you. the tipping point is the big phrase today. do you think this could be that and why? >> i would not say it's a tipping point, but it's a critical moment for isis where they're indicating whether they can transition from a terror group to a group that can govern the territory that they took so quickly starting in the summer. look here's the point, chris. terror groups have a problem making a major transition from using intimidation to providing services like governance education, medical supplies. my take away from this is that isis is not learning that it has to make that transition. it's not learning that you can't just use intimidation to subjugate people and to govern territory. my take away bottom line is that isis will be the architects of their own demise because like the terror groups that went
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before them they can't get over the hump of trying to learn how to govern. all they can do is to figure out how to kill people. >> phil you're giving a nod to the reality that isis is more than a terror ground it wants to lead and rule terror riitory. that's why there's good perspective on that. >> colonel, seeing jordan hang two people for the pilot being burned it feeds that visceral desire for revenge, but is this the way to counter isis? >> well chris, one thing we have to do is to keep this in mind. this is jordan's value. this is the way jordan wanted to handle it. this is how the people felt it was the best to do. is it visceral? yes. but, again, these people have been sitting on death row. i think it shows a retaliation by the jordanians but it helps
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the sunnis' tribes in jordan have some closure for the jordanian pilot. the next step will be very critical to see what king abdullah does to help lead the jordanians farther into this or be at status quo. >> let's talk about what they can do. they have 6.5 million people. they have an amazing intelligence force. phil i'll ask you about that in a second. they have a big problem with their own people. they have 2,000 foreign fighters out of a population of 6.5 million. can they do anything to fix that colonel? >> chris, remember 20% of jordan's population right now are refugees that have come in from syria and iraq because of the war. so you know king abdullah has a huge problem on his hand and in these refugee camps is where they breed some of these terrorists and jihadists because they don't have anything else to do. they see this piece going. king abdullah has a major problem on his hand. it should be the united nations
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and other countries helping him fix these problems. >> now one of the things that isis wound up doing here is that they showed they're not about their faith because by burning the man they went in direct opposition to what the koran says about the use of fire as punishment that it's only supposed to be from god, phil. what will that do to the radical community in terms of sighting of isis as holy warriors. >> the problem with isis they continue to recruit from a fringe. there is a radical fringe that will look at this and say, hey, if i have to choose among groups to join for example isis competitor al nusra, they don't have the headlines, if i'm going to choose which group i'm going to choose the biggest group in town that is isis. i'm sure there are people in the isis organization who are trying to figure out a theological justification for the use of fire. hey, this pilot bombed our cities.
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he used incendiary devices to kill civilians, therefore, it is okay to do this. >> the eye for eye doesn't extentex extend to fire. it comes down to dogma. last question to you, colonel. this situation, should this push the united states' hand in terms what have it does on the ground? >> no chris, i don't think it should. what i really think should happen here is i would like to see this galvanize the arab countries and literally allow the u.s. to almost step back a little bit to allow the arab countries take this and we really become that major consultant for the area instead of this american-led coalition against isis. >> well that is a point you've been making for some time and others have as well that this is essentially the region's fight. colonel, phillip mudd thank you very much for the perspective as always. mich. chris, the video is shocking. have you seen it? a deadly plane crash in taiwan.
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look at this dramatic video caught on dash cam. >> looks to me like one of the propellers was not turning. >> at least 12 are dead but scores still missing. >> a devastatingly ugly situation to see. >> there was a passenger that ran past me. he had blood on his face. >> there was panic going on towards the front of the train. >> people were trapped inside so there were multiple fatalities. >> jordan is retaliating against isis after a captive firefighter pilot was burned alive. >> we're not going to bow to the threats of terrorists. >> it's just one more indication of the viciousness and barberity of the organization. >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo. alisyn camerota and michaela
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pereira. >> this is cnn breaking news. good morning and welcome to your "new day." it is webs february 4th just before 8:00 in the east. we are following three breaking news stories this morning at home and abroad. jordan taking revenge on isis after a captive fighter pilot was burned alive. jordan has now executed two terrorist prisoners. we're going to have more on that in a moment. first, we're also following two deadly crashes. one, a passenger plane crash overseas. the other, a fiery train crash here at home. we start with the deadly plane crash. overnight in taiwan. it has killed now 23 people. >> all of those terrifying moments were caught on the dash cam video. you can see the plane striking a bridge before it plunges into a river. david mckenzie is live in beijing. what have we learned in the last while, david? >> reporter: michaela i want to give you the latest numbers.
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23 now confirmed dead by aviation authorities in taiwan. 15 injured. some 20 missing. that search the frantic search is going on after dark in day juan for anybody who might have survived that horrific crash. extraordinary that more than a dozen people managed to escape that accident with a variety of injuries. some of them just walking away from the plane with more than 100 rescuers going onto the skeern and getting them out. >> let's hope david, there are still survivors. they think there might be a pocket of air in there that they might have been able to survive in? >> reporter: well if you look at the way the plane was landing or crashing on to that very shallow river, it's almost like the fuselage was upside down inverted largely intact except for a certain section so there would have been the possibility for people to remain inside and breathe air, but obviously they have to get to them.
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so there's been a lot of activity on that plane as time goes by. tragically five bodies have been identified by forensic investigators according to authorities, and three of those bodies have been returned to their families. so very anxious moments tonight in taipei as they try to get anyone else out of that trans asia flight. >> looking at live pictures david, of the search as it continues. obviously as you mentioned, night has fallen there. out of the bodies that have been identified and out of the bodies that have been recovered, do we know anything about the fate of those pilots? >> reporter: we don't know at this stage, and what is interesting, it's unclear whether what you saw in that dramatic video was partially intentional. you see how the plane kind of cart wheeled over part of the wing slamming into the corner of the highway actually crashing into a taxi on the road and then flipping over into the river. does seem potentially the pilot was trying to avoid the heavy
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urban population of taipei. investigators have pulled up the blacks boxes or flight data recorders. this should give us some indication but at this stage we just don't know. michaela. >> david mckenzie giving us the latest on that trans asia crash that happened. we'll get more information from you when we can. alisyn. michaela now to a train accident. the deadliest crash in the had i history of the metro railroad. a train slammed into a jeep on the tracks. the ntsb is on their way to the scene to investigate. cnn's deborah feyerick is on the scene of the accident. what do we know this morning, deb? >> reporter: now we're learning the ntsb investigators are on their way. they're going to be on the ground for five to seven days looking at a number of factors. they're going to be looking at the crossing gates, the signals, whether the icy temperatures affected any of that. they're going to be looking at the medical records of the
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driver who got stuck on the tracks. they're also going to be looking at how the fire spread because that could indicate the power, the force of the collision. we know that the train did collide with that jeep cherokee that got stuck on the tracks on the wrong side of that cross -- of that gate that had lowered. the driver had -- did have enough time to get out of the car, look at the back of her car to see what exactly was going on. this from an eye witness that was behind her. then she tried to get back into the car to move the vehicle but was not able to do that in time according to an eye witness. once the train hit the car, the force, the blunt impact was so extraordinary that the third rail came up and shot through the car according to the new york governor. so a very brutal scene here. the service has been closed down for a while. metro-north going to try to get its passengers back into the city. this is a very very popular commuter line. a lot of people live in the suburbs out here and they take
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it every single day. so out of the ordinary. so unexpected. a lot of fatalities believed to be in the front of the car. that's where the impact happened. and then many of them ran, sped to the back jumping out of the open doors, breaking out windows into snowbanks just to escape the fire. a lot of pandemonium. a lot of urgency. michaela. >> deb, thanks so much for the latest there. now to the swift action against isis. jordan hanging two jailed al qaeda extremists in retaliation to the barbaric murder of its captured fighter pilot. now that jordan's king abdullah has returned home to jordan the question is will there be any greater response? we have every angle covered. we start with atika shubert. we know that the king has arrived there. any word on what process will happen now? >> reporter: well, we know that he's gone to visit a royal army barracks clearly to show support for jordan's military but we also expect him to visit in the
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next 24 hours or so karak. this is the village where the al kaseasbeh family is from. he wants support of the families and tribes there. this is one of the key political allies for the jordanian government to make sure that the families are behind him, particularly in this fight against isis. that's what we expect to see king abdullah doing in the next few hours. it is a delicate balance. remember up until today there was a divide in jordanian public opinion whether or not the country should have such a critical role in the isis coalition, but for now it seems that this brutal murder of the pilot has actually united jordanian public opinion against isis and given full support to the government to carry out even more airstrikes and military strikes against isis. >> atika, the question is we'll see what that nets and what the reaction will be from jordan.
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thanks so much. chris. >> mich that is the understanding. let's get to pept be gone correspondent, barbara starr. what does that mean for jordan the region and maybe the u.s. barbara. >> reporter: good morning, chris. if jordan and the u.s. are looking for more isis targets to strike it begins with u.s. and jordanian intelligence services scouring every part of that video to see if they can identify the perpetrators. isis released a 22-minute video of jordanian pilot lieutenant muath al kaseasbeh being bushed alive in a locked cage. >> it's truly horrifying when you watch the video that's meant to inflict terror. >> reporter: jordan announced it happened likely a couple months ago in northern syria and isis strong hold. recently isis threat jentd to kill the pilot if jordan didn't
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release sajida al-rishawi the failed iraqi suicide bomber who attacked a wedding party in jordan nearly a decade ago. al rishawi already on death row put to death by jordan. >> i think the executions were more to satisfy the demand for action of the king. >> reporter: news of the pilot's death coming as jordan's king abdullah was visiting washington. >> reporter: in a message recorded before rushing home the king called for jordanians to quote, stand together and show the mettle of the jordanian people in unity, determination and resolve. president obama and other u.s. officials expressing solidarity with this close ally in the u.s.-led military coalition to degrade and eventually defeat isis. >> it's just one more indication of the viciousness and barberity
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of this organization. >> reporter: this is the calculation that king abdullah has to make. does he want to order more airstrikes by jordanian forces. does he have the modern up-to-date equipment in his military to do that. alisyn? >> we will be talking about that. coming up in a few minutes we'll get reaction to all of this from senator john mccain and what to expect next. the so-called 20th hijacker has not learned how to shut up. from behind bars moussaoui claims u.s. allies financially supported al qaeda in the '90s. the sawed dwi emudi embassy says there is no information to support that. an argentine special prosecutor was found dead after alleging a government coverup sought to have the country's president arrested. investigators say alberto neesman had drafted an arrest
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warrant accusing the president and the foreign minister of trying to shield iran's role of a bombing of a jewish center in buenos aires. the 20 page document was found in a trash can at that prosecutor's apartment. federal officials getting hammered in the wake of a measles outbreak. this was during a congressional hearing. lawmakers asked how measles could be making a strong comeback despite being eliminate eliminated in 2000. when asked if parents should vaccinate their children they all answered yes. they also asked why the flu vaccine is only 23% effective this year. they said by the time it was known that the flu vaccine would not be effective, it was too late to make more. let's go to johns hopkins hospital with a republican weighing a potential
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presidential run. we'll talk about the measles outbreak obviously going on doctor we want your perspective of that and the politics of it as well. but as somebody who's considering being the president, let me put you the issue of the day, that is isis. what we just saw with jortd dan hanging their two prisoners in reaction, in revenge for what isis just did for their pilot. do you believe that was the right thing to do? is that what you would want the u.s. to do? >> i think this is a wonderful opportunity for the u.s. to encourage some of the other players in the middle east to get better involved. you can't ask for a better entree than this. if we're not willing to go in and be the leaders, at least now that there's a fair amount of energy behind doing something about isis we should step up our support and work harder to get more people involved. now my true opinion is that you
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know we should be leading, and the reason i believe that is because one of the stated goals of isis is to destroy us and our way of life and to sit around and wait for them or to let our survival be depep department on other people doesn't make a whole lot of sense. we have extremely capable military. >> absolute limit no question the u.s. military is the best in the world. however, military can only achieve so much doctor. when you look at the problem with extremism or whatever you guys want to call it these days what's going on there is regional to be sure and the region has been much slower than the u.s. in terms of being aggressive against it. don't you think it should start there and that maybe this flash point of this burning of this pilot may provide that incentive for the region to get after its own populations? >> that's my very point. this is a flash point which we can take advantage of but my other point is we should never
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allow things that affect us and our safety to be dependent on someone else. >> understood. all right. so let's get to the measles talking about safety. this is certainly a specific u.s. concern. just a couple of quick simple questions. did you have your boys vaccinated? >> of course. >> do you think as a doctor are you aware of anything doctor surgeon, you work with kids specifically that makes you think that vaccines may be more of a risk than a reward? >> no. i think the benefit to risk ratio is far in favor of vaccinations. i do understand that there had been some questionable information out there a few years ago, but i think that's been largely put to rest. >> do you believe that what we're seeing with measles coming back again is because of noncompliance by families with their kids and vaccines? >> a combination of
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noncompliance and introduction into our society of people who perhaps haven't been well screened. >> and that takes us to a different aspect of this. this has been polite sized now. you see a couple of your potential opponents coming out, and it seems as though the republican party has a problem with science, that they're always pushing back against science and here once again rand paul he says vaccines are good but he's pushing back as if the government shouldn't be making all these decisions. chris christie sure he corrected his statement as well as rantd paul but he was pushing back that it shouldn't be all about the government. do you think that is wise or is it pandering? >> well first of all, i have to challenge the premise of your question. >> please. >> because in california the majority of the cases are coming from democratic strong holds so i'm not sure that i would characterize it as a problem with one party or the other, but i would characterize it as a problem of lack of information about, you know modern studies.
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and i understand that there are some people who are petrified of autism and things that were thought to be associated with these vaccinations but it's been proven that it's not. we just need to update their data. >> understood. i'm not saying that republicans are getting sick more i'm saying they're talking about the sickness in ways that may not be productive. for example, what you say about people may be being introduced that sounds like code for illegal immigration to me. is that the point you're trying to make? are you trying to make the measles situation into an immigration argument? >> it's not code and i'm not trying to make it into any particular argument. i'm stating what the facts are. the facts are there are people in our country who have been lax in terms of their vigilance of getting their kids immunized and we have people coming in who are not necessarily being properly screened. that's not making any issue, that's stating facts. >> do we know that it's a fact?
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do we know that any of the cases are from people who came into the country illegally and didn't have their kids vaccinated? >> let me put it this way, if i found you, somebody who came in from another country who had not been vaccinated and caused a problem, would that convince new. >> yes, as much as you would want to value -- >> no. >> no of course. you want the supposition to have something behind it other than something that can, you know just prejudice people against immigrants so, of course it would give some validity to t. that's why i'm surprised you would say that without that in your pocket. >> it's not to prejudice anybody, but we have to deal with reality. and if you have people coming into your country who have not been properly screened who have not had the same kind of care of people in this country, i don't think you have to be a genius to figure out that that could introduce some kmun any cable problems.
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>> it certainly could. it's a question of whether or not it has. here's what we do know. this is my last question for you on it. schools. we do know that schools have been lax, that state by state, because this is done state by state, they do give conscientious objections and religious exemptions and changing the populations of herd immunity. do you believe that should be addressed? >> of course it should be addressed. we have to recognize that public safety and public health is a responsibility of the government. we do have to take care of the health and the safety of our citizens and if we have data that proves that we're doing it the right way, we should continue along that pathway. if we have data that shows that it's an error, then we need to amend our ways. >> dr. ben carson thank you for coming on "new day" and reinforcing this message that we need vaccines for our children and our adults properly as well. thank you for coming on. >> pleasure. >> alisyn. chris, will the act of the
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accosta. what's the latest jim? >> reporter: last night the white house was not responding to the hangings but i can tell you in the last few minutes the white house says it will have a response to the hangings in jordan at the white house briefing. in response to the latest brutal terrorist killing, it will back fire on isis. the administration believes this horrific video will strengthen the resolve of the jordanians. that's a pretty clear indication that jordan is likely to step up its efforts against -- in this anti-isis coalition. last night we know the president met with jordan's king abdullah before he quickly raced back to his country to meet with his military forces. we're going to hear more about the administration's plans for taking on this terrorist group later on this morning when the president's nominee has a hearing on the hill.
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ash carter was asked what the president means when he says the u.s. will defeat isis carter responded that that means the isis group will no longer be a threat to iraq the region, the united states and its partners. he goes on to say that this will be a long campaign quote, long campaign. that might not go over too well at that hearing later on this morning. >> we will stay tuned for that hearing. jim accosta, thanks so much. we want to bring in right now senator john mccain. he is the chairman of the armed services committee. member of the homeland security committee. senator, thank you for being on "new day." >> thank you. >> cnn has made a decision not to play the disgusting video of isis murdering this fighter pilot by locking him in a cage and burning him. we want to show a still frame. we want your analysis here. as you can see, senator, isis appears to have changed its
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garb. they're no longer wearing the black robes. are they wearing u.s. marine corps uniforms here senator? >> i think the length of the outfit that they are wearing indicates that it's not and as you know they these uniforms out of admiration or envy have been copied all over the world. no, i don't believe those are marine uniforms. i think they're probably imitations. >> does it tell you anything that they have switched out of what used to be their typical garb into looking more like an actual army? >> really i can't draw any conclusions except to say that it probably is something that gives them a more military view to the people they're trying to
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recruit, but, look you know i agree, by the way with you not showing that video. hopefully this video will galvanize not only the united states leadership but the arab world and the armed services committee yesterday afternoon met with king abdullah. he needs some types of weapons very badly. he's having trouble getting those weapons. we'll be working immediately on trying to achieve that for him. overall there's still no strategy from this administration. >> i want to ask you about those weapons. he said they cannot get the job done from isis. what do they need from us in terms of the new weapons? >> they need some technical types of more sophisticated weaponry. there's a huge bureaucratic
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bottleneck in the state department department. there's problems with getting permission for certain types of weapons, by the way from icesrael as well. we'll be looking at legislation that we could pass rapidly through both arms of congress. we've got to get them weapons that they need and that's just initial first step though but the king is frustrated by that. >> so is it your understanding, senator, that jordan would have ratcheted up their military strikes against isis were they not impeded by their weaponry? have they been ham strung? >> no, i wouldn't say that. i would say they have not obtained a lot of weaponry that they feel they need in this
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long-term struggle. king abdullah realizes this is a long struggle and i can't say that it's ham strung them but it has frustrated them and they haven't been able to do some of the things that they've wanted to do and that they particularly are going to want to do now given the horrific impact of this on the jordanian people. >> senator, what's the u.s. going to do in response to what's happened to the jordanian pilot? >> what senator graham and i and others have been advocating. we need a no fly zone in syria. we need to arm and equip the peshmerga more. we need to have a free syrian army. we need to have more american boots on the ground not massive american troops but air controllers, intelligence special forces and others that have been recommended by military experts now for a long
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period of time and develop a strategy and recognize this is a long-term long- long-term struggle. >> do you feel that there will be more of an appetite in terms of more boots on the ground? >> i think there's already significant can't appetite in congress. i've just seen no change in the white house. i mean, ranging from failure to give the ukrainians weapons to defend themselves to the failure to develop a strategy. have no doubt, isis is winning. they're not -- we're not -- we are neither degrading nor destroying isis. we have no strategy. >> i just want to stop you for a second because our military analysts have said that the u.s. coalition is pushing back isis they are losing some of the ground and the territory that they had taken and that we have killed some of their leaders. you disagree with that? >> of course. about a week ago there was a
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picture, front page story in the wall street journal showing how isis has expanded in syria. the fact that we took kobani is good news. took three months of air power, the strongest nation on earth in order to achieve that because we didn't have air controllers among other reasons. no we are not winning and that is the opinion of outside military experts literally every one of them i know. and if there have been some gains, they've been minuscule. >> so senator, you're saying that you believe that you would have the votes in congress to rachet up the fights? >> if you had presidential support, yes. i've seen polling and that the american public opinion have shifted dramatically on this issue in light of the horrific things that we've seen happen. >> will you be talking to
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defense secretary nominee ash carter about this today? >> yes, i will and he's a goodman and we expect to confirm him quickly, but like his three predecessors who have all stated he has no influence on the decision-making process in the white house. that's handled by two, three, four people. >> we'll be looking to get more information after that hearing. thanks so much for taking time for "new day." >> thank you. what should the u.s. do to stop isis? tweet us or go to facebook. we'd love to hear your thoughts. one of the things alisyn we're looking at is will jordan's actions embolden more leaders in the mid east to fight against isis? we're going to speak to our fareed zakaria next. cars for crash survival, subaru has developed our most revolutionary feature yet. a car that can see trouble... ...and stop itself to avoid it.
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all right. here we go with the five things for today. number one, dramatic dash cam video capturing a deadly plane crash in taiwan. a trans asia flight hitting a bridge before it plunges into the river. we know at least 23 people at this point are dead. officials in new york now say six people are dead after a
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commuter train outside of new york city slams into a jeep in the evening rush. the jeep stopped on the tracks before the fiery crash. this is the deadliest accident ever for metro-north. two jailed al qaeda extremists. swift retaliation for a jordanian pilot is shown being burned alive. testimony pinning sister against sister as aaron hernandez's murder trial is excused. another juror suddenly dismissed. former deputy defense secretary ash carter will make his case to be the next pentagon chief. if confirmed he'll be the fourth one to serve under president obama. visit new day cnn.com for the latest. the pictures unbelievable. unbelievably frightening. this plane comes from the left part of your screen just after takeoff. boom. hits the car, hits the highway, crashes into a shallow bridge. what do we know?
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we're following two breaking news stories this morning. a plane crash overseas and a train crash right here at home. take a look at this dash cam video. top left of your screen. you see that plane in taiwan? barely misses the buildings, hits the road and crashes into a shallow river. 58 people on board. at least 23 confirmed dead right now still very active scene. let's bring in pbs science
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correspondent miles o'brien and mary sciavo former inspector general for the u.s. department of transportation. thanks to both of you. let's go back to the video of the plane. let's get them ready to slow it down. miems miles, all these air crashes in asia because of the number or is there a reason we keep hearing about it? >> this is a fast growing region chris. this is a large aviation sector. it's a tremendous amount of pressure to have aircraft and crews that are flying those aircraft meet the demand. so you have to ask the question about whether the airlines are really sticking to the rules and the standard practices on maintenance and training of these crews. i think it's a big question we should be asking. >> let's ask t. mary. let's take a look at the slowed down video again. you said you thought one propel propeller was moving more slowly than the other. it does seem that the left propeller was more -- you know
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running ats a different rate. the plane was pitched that way. what does it mean to you other than the obvious which is that there was an engine issue? >> right. the way that the plane is pitched and the fact that the plane was taking off and that it's a twin engine turbo prop to me it suggests that they had a left engine problem. i suspect once we get the air traffic control tapes, if that's what they had, they would have had time to get off a may day call. it looks to me they were headed to the water perhaps to try a miracle on the hudson landing on the water. they didn't have enough altitude and to me with just one engine they weren't able to maintain that altitude to make it over the highway. if you lose an engine on takeoff on a twin turbo prop you know it's tough. you have to be trained to fly it and it sure looks to me that they lost the left engine. >> mary pointed out that the problem rate of crashes involved with twin engine prop planes are actually worse than single engine. that comes down to piloting.
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why, miles? why? you would think two engines give you a better chance. >> you would think. in this case certainly there's enough power provided by that remaining engine to fly, but the crew has to do a lot of things exactly right in the exact sequence within seconds in order to make this all work. they have to feather the prop or ensure that the automatic feathering system works. it's the difference between being this way and this way. you don't want to have it acting like a plow. that causes drag and will bring you down. you have to push the right rudder which steers the nose to the right and you have to maintain a certain air speed, minimum controllable air speed. if all those things don't happen meanwhile you're trying to figure out where a possible emergency landing might occur, you're going to find the thing does not go well as we saw. >> right. especially with it rolled over on its side like that as it's crashing down to the water. it's amazing more people weren't hurt in those buildings, on the road and in that plane that people survived.
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recovery still ongoing. numbers are not solid. let's look at the other situation, mary this train crash that we just had here outside new york city the deadliest ever in metro-north rail history. seven people at this hour. many still critically injured. another evolving situation. seems that an suv stuck on the tracks the crossing gates came down on it. why would a car be in that situation? >> well there are a couple reasons. many reasons a car might be in that situation and the most common one which has been an effort by the department of transportation literally for a couple of decades to get people to quit doing this is beating the train and trying to go around -- trying to beat the warning signals and the gates coming down. in some cases they have gone around the gates. it's tragic how many accidents occur because of that. however, we don't know if that's what happened in this case. there are many instances where the lights and signals, the warning bells don't work don't function where the gates are coming down and you don't get that preliminary warning.
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finally, the trains are supposed to blow their whistles attic points when they're approaching the crossing. however, in many places in many municipalities there are limits where they can blow the whistle. there are many reasons why someone might not be aware that a train is coming or the gates are about to come down. >> right. now in terms of the accountability here of what was -- should have been done or was done by those in charge the death toll some good news the death toll was revised from seven to six so that's good. we want as many people to make it as possible. the problem, miles, one of those six is the person who was operating the train. you won't get that perspective. there was plenty of information on the train to tell what was happening and how they reacted, right? >> it's not unlike aviation. there's recorders and all kinds of capability within the system which measures speed, whether the crossing system was working properly. it's not like they're completely in the dark. in the absence of a living operator of that train.
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>> all right. look the governor said who hapts to be my brother, he said accidents happen. here's my push back on that mary. they do happen. then the ntsb goes in and investigates and they come out with reports and recommendations so they don't happen again. and we know a report came out after that december 13 crash that they had of the plane -- train derailing and people died and the pilot -- the driver had sleep apnea that went undiagnosed. in that recommendation how do we know whether or not it was followed by the rail authority and by the politicians involved? >> well we don't until there's a file up report. my office the office of the inspector general, does track whether the ntsb recommendations have been implemented by the department of transportation and its entities like federal rail and masses transit oversight agencies but the ntsb can only ask. it's really a very head to head tremendous foresight when they issued a report saying improving mass transit safety and fire
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suppression and that metro-north had had six accidents in a couple of years and that they were a target too, for safety improvements. you know they had great foresight. they're almost like the casandra of transportation but they depend upon other federal agencies to make those safety recommendations be implemented. the ntsb can only beg. >> so casandra greek mythology known for only prognosticating negative outcomes but let's say they got it right and there was a negative outcome and they were saying it and it did happen again, does it make it easier to get change this time mary quickly? >> yes, because the federal government and many state governments legislate on the backs of tragedy. they legislate with a body count. way pastime to act. >> chris, there is drama in the aaron hernandez trial. testimony pitting sis sters against each other. one, hernandez's fiance the
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intense here michaela as this trial is not only about a murder trial but it is splitting a family apart. shayanna jenkins, the fiance has just showed up it's expected to be another emotional day of testimony. an emotion naal shaneah jenkins. >> what did you learn? >> that odin was dead. >> reporter: shaneah describes her sister shayanna's behavior. she was and still is the fiance of aaron hernandez. >> when you say she kept getting text messages, how was she behaving after receiving these text messages? >> just not normal. secretive secretive. >> shaneah says after some of
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those secretive calls and texts she saw her sister taking a black garbage bag to the basement. they asked to borrow her car. the testimony started late after high drama. one juror dismissed. >> the court is dismissing juror number 96 in the best interest of justice. >> reporter: after a lengthy hearing behind closed doors, the judge ruled the juror appeared to favor aaron hernandez, had spoken or expressed opinions about the case attended more patriots' games than she admitted on the juror questionnaire and most shocking -- >> the juror expressed specific opinion about the case to the effect that in the absence of a weapon it would be hard to convict. >> reporter: brian fragga has followed the trial from the beginning since the beginning of the hearing. >> this is a huge story. former star tight end for the new england patriots.
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it's been something nonstop in the headlines for the better part of the last two years now. >> reporter: shaneah jenkins testimony will continue. her sister shayanna may eventually contradict her sister testifying on hernandez's behalf. >> reporter: now the dynamic in that courtroom is interesting in the sense that shaneah is on the stand. her sister shayanna sit on the other side of the courtroom from her and her family. it is incredible and very emotional to see. michaela. >> more emotion expected today. we understand that odin lloyd's mother is expected to take the stand. >> ursula ward may take the stand. it depends how far they get through. the prosecution is still talking or questioning shaneah and then the defense will be able to have their redirect. it's not clear we will get to ursula ward. it is certainly possible. she has had a hard time getting through any of this trial. we expect it will be a tough day
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when she gets on the stand. >> miguel, there's been so much attention and interest in this case. we saw that one juror getting dismissed summarily. what effect will this have on the other jurors? is there a concern it will affect the outcome of the trial? >> reporter: it's interesting. the judge gave a lengthy description of why that juror was dismissed outside of earshot of the jury. when the jury came back in the judge only said look this is a juror who was dismissed, nothing to do with this case and we will continue on. they were concerned about this juror because she had wanted to be on this jury. she had attended many patriots' games. she appeared to favor aaron hernandez and even made statements that there was no way to get a conviction without a murder weapon. they have not found a murder weapon yet. i think that both sides were concerned about this juror contaminating the rest of the jury pool and they got rid of her. michaela. >> miguel marquez in fall river,
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the good stuff. >> come on somebody out there needs someone like him. >> lots of breaking news of the let's get you to the newsroom with miss carol costello. >> thanks so much. have a great day. "newsroom" starts now. happening now in the "newsroom," a vow of earth shaking retaliation. as isis finds a depraved new way to get the world's attention. a hero pilot burned to death. >> translator: i demand this criminal organization to be annihilated. >> it's truly horrifying when you watch the video meant to
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