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hello. i'm wolf blitzer. it's 1:00 p.m. here in washington. 6:00 p.m. in london. 58 km in amman, jordan. 2:00 p.m. thursday in tie pi. whether he ever you're watching from wherever you're watching from around the world, thank you for joining us. we start with the crash of that transasia turbo prop plane. in the video provided to us by
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our affiliate tvbs taiwan you see the plane clip a bridge as it careened into the river below. the death toll could rise higher as search crews look for 12 people who remain missing. 15 others were injured. let's get more from cnn's david mckenzie. >> reporter: this dashcam footage from taiwan is as incredible as it is horrifying. the extraordinary scene from cnn affiliate tvbs shows the atr-72 shortly after take-off. then the unthinkable. the plane cartwheeling over an elevated highway, slamming into a barrier and then crashing a passing taxi dipping into the keelung river below. incredibly, there were survivors of the crash escaping the sunken fuselage.
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the dramatic rescue scenes played out on live tv with more than 100 first responders rushing to the scene, desperately searching for more survivors. transasia officials say the plane was new and recently serviced. but this is the second deadly transasia crash in just seven months. >> translator: i would like to express our deep apologies to the victims and our crews. again, we express our deep apologies. >> reporter: family members were left angry and distraught. >> translator: we had to contact the airline first. the airline didn't pay attention to us. they're business confirming information. their attitude is terrible. >> reporter: the reasons for the crash are unclear. but the recovered flight data recorders should help investigators understand just what went so horribly wrong. >> david's joining us now live from beijing. you mentioned, david, this was the second transasia crash in just seven months.
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how's this carrier's safety record overall? >> reporter: well before that crash, the one seven months ago, it was pretty good. but now questions are being asked about transasia. they've apologized, as you heard. two passengers and crew. but the civil aviation authority in taiwan is taking no chances. they've now grounded the atr-72 airlines in that territory. 22 of them are not allowed to fly from now on presumably for more checks to be put through. i can tell you, though that this death toll is steadily rising tragically. 31 now confirmed dead including the pilots and co-pilot. >> very, very tragic scene. i'm sure this investigation will be intense. david, thanks very much. a lot of unanswered questions about the crash. let's bring in mary schiavo. mary, when you see the video and
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it's so powerful so dramatic on that video, we see one of the plane's propellers not turning. what does that say to you? the other one is turning. >> well it looked to me like they were experiencing a left engine failure or problem with the left engine in feathering or controlling the props. we learned later that the left engine wasn't fully powered. they would turn like that. that wing would dip. but to correct for it it takes a lot of training and you have to be prepared for a single engine operation if you lose an engine on a take-off like that. they would have had to kick in rutter er rudder and gone to overdrive and you would have lost power there. >> but you would assume the pilots would have that kind of training if one of the engines simply crashes on take-off they would know how to deal with it with just one engine, right? >> absolutely that's very important training particularly on a twin turbo prop.
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it's fairly tricky. surprisingly the number of planes lost when a twin engine plane loses one engine as opposed to a single engine losing and gliding down. but unless you have that kind of training to lose an engine on take-off is the worst possible time you could lose power. particularly where you're over a heavily populated area. ordinary you'd put the nose down try to take it into the nearest available place. but the only thing was city in front of them. it looked like the pilot was aiming for the water. that is a plane out of control. that's not the normal type of bank you would make for a turn. >> we've seen several recent crashes involving asian carriers. is all of this just coincidental or is something else going on
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here in terms of at least some experts already suggesting maybe their safety records, their precautions, their training, not as excellent as it should be? >> well they're experiencing an aviation boom in southeast asia china and many places. not unlike what the united states experienced back in the mid '90s when we were experiencing a huge build-up of low cost carriers new entrance carriers et cetera. and there are growing pains and there's a learning curve. what's occurring, especially in southeast asia is the huge pent-up demand for aviation. and now the wealthy populace can afford to fly. they're sucking off the skills and really absorbing the skills of pilots around the globe, of maintenance and a lot of persons are wondering whether they have enough skills enough training and there's really enough resources there to support this demand in aviation. >> we'll stay on top of this
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story for our viewers. mary thanks very much. other major news we're following, what's being described as earth-shaking retaliation. that's what jordan is now promising following the horrific murder of one of its fighter pilots by isis. jordan has already responded by executing two jihadi prisoners. here are the latest headlines that are coming in. king abdullah of jordan arrived back in jordan today and crowds lined the streets in a show of support. in a statement, the king condemned isis as a cowardly criminal organization with quote, no relation to our noble religion. jordan's first response to the grisly murder of its pilot was swift. the government hanged two prisoners with ties to al qaeda. one was a female terrorist considered as part of a possible prisoner swap. the f-16 fighter pilot, mu'ath al kaseasbeh, who was burned alive by isis is being remembered with prayers and
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protests. crowds gathered at the mosque in amman today for prayers. earlier, protesters vented their anger. demonstrations were held in the jordanian capital and in the pilot's hometown. the big question now, what more will jordan do in response to the barbaric murder of its pilot? our correspondent, atika shubert, is joining us now live from the captain of jordan in amman. a government spokesperson is promising earth-shaking retaliation. what do we expect to happen next? >> reporter: this is the big question. and there is no doubt that king abdullah is under incredible public pressure to strike back hard at isis. we've just had a statement recently issued by the royal hashamitte court. and the king said the blood of mu'ath al kaseasbeh will not be in vain.
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the response of the jordanian army will be severe. he also went on to say that this fight with isis -- that isis is not only fighting jordan but fighting islam itself. so very strong words from the king. what will happen next? a lot of that depends not only on the coalition and what kind of air strikes, for example are coming up next but also what kind of support king abdullah can get from the prominent families and tribes in jordan. it is likely the king will be visiting that family in the town of karak very soon. that is in part not only to offer condolences but to get the support to carry out that earth-shattering response he has promised to deliver. >> we did see the crowds lining up in the streets in jordan as king abdullah's motorcade passed by. this time yesterday, he was here in washington. he cut short his visit for understandable reasons, to get
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back to jordan asap. what does all of this mean for him? i assume his position has been strengthened. >> reporter: his position has been strengthened for now. but that could still change in the days to come because let's remember public opinion was divided in the lead-up to this. there are a number of for example, jordanian citizens that have gone to fight with isis in syria and iraq. so there is some measure of support for isis here in jordan. that may have all turned around with this horrific video that has been released. but especially as the frustrations of the family and perhaps the fears of other families who have sons serving in the air force, for example, they'll be wondering what's to be guaranteed that this does not happen again and happen to their own sons? they want some assurances before king abdullah strikes back. >> atika shubert in amman, we'll get back to you. i want to get more now on jordan's response. our correspondent, becky anderson is joining us now from the united arab emirates in abu
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dhabi. you had a chance to speak with a top jordanian spokesman. what was his message? >> reporter: yeah according to the government's spokesman who met king abdullah within the past couple of hours, jordan will intensify its efforts with the international coalition fighting isis. so how far that will manifest itself that is still being negotiated. between the king and the army and indeed the coalition, not least with washington. do have a list of what he said is unlikely to happen next. >> at this point, our policy we have said that boots on the ground will be the iraqi military the syrian moderate forces to fight terrorism, the peshmerga in the kurdish area.
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so this is the type of boots on the ground that we talked about and the coalition talked about, not talking about boots on the ground. >> reporter: wolf the message from jordan and other arab members of the coalition is this -- if isis is to be stopped, jordan and others want an increase in air strikes. that means washington committing even greater u.s. assets, of course in support. so perhaps it is no coincidence that it was the appropriations committee that king abdullah saw before he left washington to return to jordan on wednesday. this is very much at this point watch this space in the hours to come. >> becky thanks very much. becky aroundnderson in abu dhabi for us. much more ahead on the jordanian response to the murder of its pilot by isis. an expert panel is weighing in. we're getting more information
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lieutenant general mark hertling. jordan is going to increase their participation in the anti-isis coalition, want to step up their air strikes. i've been told by officials in the know that jordan's response now to isis after the execution of these two terrorists is only just beginning. so what's going on? what's the latest you're hearing? >> reporter: here's what we know. a short time ago, a u.s. official confirming that jordan now is in fact stepping up its participation in the air strikes against isis. what are we talking about? every day the coalition puts out something to its members called an air tasking order, literally a list of targets, they apportion them out amongst the countries. jordan now saying it wants to do more on that air tasking order and that is now happening. it may be a slow process. depends on where the targets are located, depends on if jordan can get to them if they are mobile targets, what other kinds
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of high-tech weapons might be needed to go against targets. but the bottom line now is jordan is stepping up its participation by taking on more targets. this is something that that country and that military wants to do something that king abdullah wants to do. it's going to be significant because this comes, as we have reported that the united arab emirates on the other hand for some weeks now has not conducted any air strikes. they remain very concerned that if one of their pilots was to go down that search-and-rescue assets are close by close enough to reasonably be able to get to one of their pilots. that is something that did not happen in the case of the jordanian pilot when he went down in december. wolf? >> that's a good point because the united states doesn't have a better friend in that part of the world than the united arab emirates. and general hertling what the uae simply wants, i'm told they want to make sure that if one of their pilots goes down flying
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over syria or iraq that the u.s. has assets in place, presumably in northern iraq to go ahead and rescue a downed pilot which the u.s. didn't have that rescue operations all the way in kuwait or the uae or qatar, but not close to the scene of the action and apparently turkey isn't allowing the u.s. to fly out of bases in turkey even though turkey's a nato ally. so what's going on here? >> those are called combat search and rescue flights. anytime you put up a coalition air force, you have circles, rings, where those csar flights you have circles and rings in the different areas where you're sending coalition aircraft. there are difficulties because of a nonsupport by some of our allies where you have to extend coverage and it takes a longer time. but talking what barbara just mentioned about the ato, the air
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tasking order, spun up every day at centcom headquarters jordan is very good at csar and also very good at special operations forces. so if jordan is really upping their game and contributing more to the coalition forces which they said they are going to do that might cover some of other nations pulling out until we get better coordination to make sure all those csar coverages are in place. >> paul cnn has chosen not to show the video of the pilot's brutal killing. but the slick production on that video, the fact that isis members are wearing military-style uniforms is this part of a new recruiting tool? what's going on here? >> i think that was a calculated move by isis and its leader abu bakr al baghdadi to spread
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terror to weaken the resolve of the jordanians and other sunni arab powers. they did this kind of thing in iraq about a year ago, put out a lot of these kind of vehicles. and it did weaken the resolve of the iraqi military to a degree because they fled from mosul last june. but this time around i think it's very counterproductive. there's been a big backlash right across the region against isis and more support now for king abdullah and his decision to join the anti-isis coalition. jordan's going to step up military efforts and also its intelligence-gathering capabilities in syria and iraq. has very significant capabilities in that regard. back in 2006 jordan played a key role in that u.s. air strike which took out the founder of isis ab musab al zarqawi. >> we'll continue to follow this
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story. thanks very much. less than 20 years ago, measles was almost completely wiped out in the united states. but now the disease is spreading once again. we'll speak with the head of the centers for disease control and prevention here in the united states and ask dr. thomas frieden what needs to be done to stop this growing health threat. but will get back to you just as soon as i possibly can. your call is important to me. join princess cruises for exclusive discovery at sea experiences. enjoy cruises from $499 during our 50th anniversary sale. call your travel consultant or 1-800-princess. princess cruises. come back new.
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reported in california where this latest outbreak began. why are so many parents refusing to get their children vaccinated? only one in a million children has a serious adverse reaction to this vaccination. as our own dr. sanjay gupta says you're 100 times more likely to get struck by lightning. with us from atlanta to talk about the measles outbreak vaccinations in particular is the director for the centers for drz control and prevention, dr. thomas frieden. thanks for joining us. i want you to speak directly to those parents out there who still refuse to get their children vaccinated for measles. >> i get my kids vaccinated for measles and other diseases. measles is not just a disease of the past. it's still here. last year we had 600 cases of measles. and if we're not careful, measles will also be a disease of the future.
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but we can stop it. vaccination programs around the world have given this vaccine to more than 1 billion kids. in the last ten years, we have prevented more than 15 million deaths from measles around the world. this vaccine works. and study after study shows that it's safe. but it's not just about your kids. if you don't get your kid vaccinated it may be that the baby next door or the kid down the street who's being treated for leukemia could get infected and die from this 100% preventable disease. >> if you had your way, you would make it a law mandatory in the united states that every child needs to get a measles vaccination? >> most states do have vaccine mandates that require proof of vaccination before school admission. that's a state affair.
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that's a state issue for states and local school boards. >> i'm going to play some clips from a couple of politicians, potential presidential candidates rand paul of kentucky chris christie, the governor of new jersey. listen to what they have said in recent days. >> much more important as a parent than what you think as a public official. that's what we do. but i also understand that parents need to have some measure of choice in things as well. so that's the battle that the government has to decide. >> i've heard of many tragic cases of walking, talking normal children who wound up with profound mental disorders after vaccines. i'm not arguing vaccines are a bad idea. i think they're a good thing. but i think the parent should have some input. the state doesn't own your children, parents own the children. >> i want you to react to what they're saying. should parents have the final say in whether their children get these vaccinations or should it be mandatory?
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>> all parents are concerned about the health and safety of their kids. and that's why we want to make sure kids are safe and healthy. that's why we want to make sure that where there are diseases that can be prevented, we prevent them. as not just the director of cdc, not just as a doctor not just as an infectious disease specialist but as a parent i want to make sure that we do everything we can so that no child in this country gets ill, brain-damaged or dies from a disease that could have been prevented. >> so if a parent refuses to let their kids get vaccinated for measles -- and we're simply talking about measles, not other potential diseases -- should that child be allowed to go to public school to private school? should that kid be allowed to go out and potentially, potentially have an impact on others? >> in most cases, most states allow medical exemptions. there are some rare medical conditions that would not allow a child to get vaccinated
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treatment for certain cancers, for example, or a transplant. so there needs to be some way for kids who have a medical reason not to get vaccinated not to be vaccinated. but the more kids aren't vaccinated the more risk there is that measles will regain a foothold in this country. around the world, measles continues to kill 150,000 kids a year. the measles vaccine is very effective. it works 93%, 97% of the time. it's one of our most effective vaccines. that's important because measles is one of if not the most infectious of all infectious diseases. >> what you're saying to parents all over the world, get your gets vaccinated for measles, right? >> absolutely. we think of it sometimes as a minor disease or a disease of the past. first off, it's not always
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minor. many kids end up in the hospital about 1 in 1,000, even in the u.s. would end up severely ill, dying or possibly having brain damage as a result. and globally in communities that have more marginal nutritional status, the death rate for measles can be very high. it's a deadly disease but a highly effective vaccine. >> dr. thomas frieden, the head of the cdc here in the united states, good advice. i hope all parents were listening and heed your advice heed dr. sanjay gupta's advice to advice of all the experts, get that vaccination for your kids so they don't break out with measles. thanks very much for joining us. >> thank you. >> please be sure to visit cnn.com for the latest information, the latest interviews on the measles outbreaks. by the way, dr. sanjay gupta has an excellent article on this entire issue. check it out. coming up a plane falls out
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[airplane sounds] announcer: visit aarp.org/caregiving for information on how to provide even better care for the person who once took care of you. welcome back to our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer reporting from washington. a search and rescue operation is under way right now in taiwan where a plane crashed hours ago. and the crash of that transasia
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turbo prop plane was captured up close by a car dashcam. the video provided to us by our affiliate tvbs taiwan. you can see the plane clip a bridge as it careens into a river below. 31 of the 58 people on board were killed. 12 people are still missing and at least 15 victims survived with injuries. it's a terrifying scene but the images could prove helpful to investigators trying to figure out what caused this crash. joining us now, cnn's safety analyst, david soucie former safety inspector for the faa here in the united states. david, what's your reaction when you see this rare up-close video of the crash? can you pick up any clues from these images, what might have caused the crash? >> it's very telling, wolf. first of all, it's just tragic we've lost as many lives as have been lost. but the fact there were 15 survivors, i see there's only two possible scenarios here. one would be the left engine
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failed which the pilot mentioned he had a flameout. it appears from the video if you look at those three frames you see the left engine appears not to be putting out any thrust. however, there's an auto feather on this airplane. so if the auto feather worked properly there's no reason that aircraft would have banked so severely to the left other than the pilot trying to make a maneuver to make the aircraft crash more survivable. >> what kind of safety record does this aircraft have? >> it's a spotted record but not because of mechanical records, mostly related to weather or ice. that doesn't appear to be the case in this. doesn't appear to have played a part. doesn't look like anything would have prevented the aircraft or any propensity to get any de-icing. in this estimation it appears something caused that aircraft to flame out, starvation of fuel or perhaps bird ingestion.
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>> do they have good inspectors over there before they take off? because there have been some concern they might not have all the precautions that they need. >> that's always a concern. but as far as the systemic problems they've had over there, there hasn't been a lot of that. if something failed it would have been an individual who overlooked something. but this is an air carrier. so even if an individual overlooks something, there's a second set of eyes required to go back and look at any safety critical piece of that aircraft. so at this point, it's too early to tell. but in my estimation transasia has a good safety record they have a good systemic safety system in place. i think they have an anomaly here that needs to be investigated. >> david soucie, thanks very much. helping us understanding what's going on. still ahead, jordan's king abdullah is vowing what he's calling a relentless war against isis. what will that entail? we'll have a former u.s.
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jordan is a key member of the anti-isis coalition. a u.s. official with direct knowledge tells cnn jordan is now in the process of stepping up its air strikes. jordanians have responded to the death of the pilot, mu'ath al kaseasbeh, with prayers and a demonstration across jordan. a crowd chanted, we will pay our soul and blood for your sake, mu'ath. outrage spread over isis releasing a video showing al kaseasbeh being burned alive in a cage. jordan executed two jihadi prisoners earlier today, including that female terrorists convicted of terrorism in connection with that 2005 bombing of jordanian weddings at hotels in amman that killed 60 people and injured hundreds more. let's get some perspective on jordan's likely reaction to the killing. we're joined by the former ambassador to jordan.
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thanks very much for coming in. i'm told they are so angry, so furious in jordan king abdullah on down what we've seen so far, the execution, the hanging of these two terrorists, is only just the beginning. what do you anticipate jordan will do? >> i think that's exactly right. i'm reminded of .5when you say that because then the population erupted as they did today, outraged by any kind of attack on them and their people. i think you're going to find far more support for the king for their continued actions against daesh or isis. >> daesh is the derogatory term. >> yes. but you've mentioned stepping up their involvement with air attacks. but they're also very supportive of us in other ways particularly intelligence and the access really to people and information -- >> will it be just jordan? you know the region well. i remember when you were
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ambassador in kuwait and saddam hussein innovated kuwait back in 1990. will it just be jordan that will be emboldened now to get tougher with isis or will others in the region whether saudi arabia kuwait uae, qatar, turkey for that matter will they as well follow suit? >> i've been on the phone with lots of people in at least three of the countries you just mentioned. in every one of those countries they're telling me people are outraged and they want their governments to do more to deal with daesh, to bring them down to heel. and what i find helpful is you find the religious establishments in all these countries, including in cairo, denouncing them and saying they're not islamic at all, it's a violation of koranic instructions on how you treat prisoners and things of that sort. >> i can see several country, including the u.s., stepping up air strikes. i don't see any of them willing to send combat ground forces into iraq.
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what they're saying, the jordanians are saying it shlgts others are saying it it's up to the iraqi military. why aren't the turks doing more a nato ally? what about kuwait? the uae have suspended their air strikes afraid if they lose one of their pilots search and rescue assets won't be near. i suspect the iraqi military and even the peshmerga, the kurds and maybe the free syrian army little training and not much equipment, they can't get the job done. >> they certainly can't. what everyone has said and it's a fact you can't really deal with daesh unless you do it with troops on the ground. air is good. it does certainly things that are helpful. but it will not, in fact destroy -- >> you see any of these friendly countries getting involved sending thousands of troops on the ground to destroy isis? >> they're reluctant to do that. but they may be pushed in that direction. what you do have now is the
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limited numbers you said a few kurdish troops who have done a reasonably good job. and an iraqi force which has tried to recover. >> been so disappointing. >> very much so. >> ambassador, thanks very much for coming in. coming up it was a sacrifice she says she was forced to make to save her father. >> translator: after a bit, my mother came and said to me they will release him if you marry the head of the sharia police. >> shocking details of life with an isis militant from an escaped bride. this is a cnn exclusive report our arwa dame season getting ready to report. they say after seeing a magician make his assistant disappear mr.clean came up with a product that makes dirt virtually disappear. he called it the magic eraser. it cleans like magic. even baked on dirt disappears right before your eyes. mr.clean's magic eraser. at ally bank no branches equals great rates. it's a fact. kind of like mute buttons equal danger.
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cut off from all communication, locked up and raped. certainly doesn't sound like a marriage but that's what one syrian woman endured when she was forced to wed an isis militant. cnn's arwa damon has her harrowing story in this report. the woman feared for her safety so we're keeping her real identity a secret. >> reporter: hahnaan apologizes for her tears but the depth of her pain the black fabric cannot mask. >> translator: even until now i can't grasp what i've been
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through. i've been destroyed. >> reporter: in syria, she said anyone suspected of fighting them was indiscriminately detained. >> translator: among those detained the reason for my marriage was my father. my brother died during the clashes and as a memory my father kept his ak. when isis memory of someone told them had a weapon so they detained them. >> reporter: hanan and her mother begged for police. >> translator: after a bit, my mother came and said we will release if you marry him. my father's life for my hand in marriage. >> reporter: she never even knew his real name. >> translator: every girl dreams of that white dress, the wedding night. i've been deprived of that. i was destroyed by this
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marriage. >> reporter: she speaks haltingly of their first night together. she said husband forced himself on her. >> translator: there was no emotion. i felt like he just wanted to take what was his right. he had to. >> reporter: her husband kept her locked up in the house. she was only allowed to use his phone in his presence to call her parents. she was his prisoner his maid and his sex slave. >> translator: i couldn't go out. i couldn't meet up with anyone. no one could visit. and they forbid things at will. my husband, he would detain people for smoking and then he would smoke at home. >> reporter: her husband was killed a month after they married and hanan said she managed to flee to turkey after isis married her off to another fighter. the activist group is being slaughtered silently has documented hundreds of cases of women being forced into becoming isis brides. about a third of them under 18.
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hanan says the instant a girl turns 13 if isis spots her, they will claim her and many like hanan don't have a choice. >> translator: they marry and divorce at will but it was my father's life for this marmg. >> reporter: a marriage that shredded her soul. arwa damon, cnn turkey on the border. >> hard to believe this stuff goes on in the world. want to thank arwa for the excellent very compelling and important report. when we come back a very very different story. we're going to check in on american politics. the former florida governor jeb bush takes another step to lay the groundwork for another presidential bid. tell you about his so-called economic vision for america, stay with us. you only know in a fire to get out, to escape and now ok you are outside and you are safe but what do you do now and that's where the red cross came in... .
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a candidate for president of the united states. bush spoke to the detroit economic club about his new economic vision for america. >> the opportunity gap is the defining issue of our time. more americans are stuck at their income levels than ever before. it's very hard for people to go to the bottom to the top or even the middle. this should alarm you. it has alarmed me. the problem starts when we fear the one thing that could help unlock the economic status quo. the freedom to compete and work as a team to build great things. >> let's go to chief congressional correspondent, dana bash. did you hear things?
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>> reporter: big time. it was campaign theme after campaign. not a lot of specifics but that wasn't the goal here wolf. generally what he was trying to say is that if he does go forward, certainly sounds like he is almost candidate for president. that he wants to talk about conservative principles in areas like detroit where republicans have kind of given up. and that's where he talked about his right to rise theme which he said throughout his speech didn't give a lot of specifics about how policiwise he would do that but that was the theme. the other thing that was interesting was the way he put forward the kind of campaign he wants to run. he wants to, he was talking about being hopeful, about returning america to its time of greatness and talking about the best thing to be alive in america. very optimistic but when it comes to the kind of presidential politics and politics in general we've seen recently he was very clear that he wants to not go at it in a negative way and that's the way
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he would pursue primary process, which is quite different than what we've seen. >> how did he deal with the issue of his last name bush? a lot of people aren't ready for another bush in the white house. >> reporter: that's right. there was some q and a after with the detroit economic club. that's one of the questions. what do you do about that issue that your last name is bush? he made a joke about being self-aware in the first part of being self-aware if you are jeb bush is realizing that you have to overcome that challenge. what he said in running for governor the first time in florida and losing he has to get out on his own and be his own person. he made that clear, wolf. jeb bush and i was thinking about this watching his speech he's slr well known. everybody knows the name bush and even jeb bush but not well known in terms of what he stands for and this is the first step today to try to put meat on
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bones, if you will. >> much more in the situation room as well. dana thank you very much. that's it for me. i'll be back 5:00 p.m. eastern in the situation room for our international viewers. amanpour is next. for viewers in north america newsroom, brooke baldwin starts right now. here we go. you're watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. thank you very much for being with me. we have to begin with the heart stopping video of this plane crash that we now know has taken the lives of more than half the people on board while others. i've seen this so many times today. you're speechless. the cab. it clips. they're just injured. let me talk about those whose lives are lost the number killed. we have just learned now stands at 31 people. a total of 58 were on board. the transashay flight headed to a coastal town in china and
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