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special extended addition of "ac360." don lemon starts right now. >> this is cnn breaking news. this is "cnn tonight" and breaking news. the u.s. military is moving assets to iraq to fight isis and we will have latest than. and plus, it is the sickening thing that you can see shgs see, the execution of the fighter pilot being burn eded alive, and while cnn is not showing it it is said that the murder was shown to cheering crowds and including one child to isis supporters. >> and also, a pilot's doomed effort to avoid a deadly crash, and what went wrong, and what do the black boxes tell us? also terror on the tracks. a train smashes into an suv and bursts into flames and how commuters on the way home escaped the inferno. >> and drama in the koutroom,
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and what happens in the courtroom when the mother of the vikck tim sees a photo of he her son, and the jury does not know about it. and i want to get to the breaking news that the u.s. is moving assets to iraq to fight isis. and now we have our correspondents around the world, and we will begin with you in iraq, and what are are you seeing there michelle ka zinosinski? >> these aircraft are moved and shifted on a constant basis as the location of the air strikes are changing, and what you can gather from this is that there is more action many this area in northern iraq, and talking about e over the flights and the air strikes, and any of the situations with where the pilots are overhead and as a result would be at risk and clearly the u.s. military wants to make sure that the rescue assets are there, and just in case something happens.
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i think that it is going to be interesting to see if h this is a result of jordan promising more air strikes in the near future. we will have to wait and see are where the loecations are. and in talking about this, this u.s. official who is giving this information is that it is not as if they are giving away anything to the enemy in the way that we are talking about the location but just because the air strikes have been constant and the locations are spread out and changing, and a lot of the targets that they are hitting are fixed, stationary. it is not as if isis can move a build org the airplane hangar in a big hurry. it is clear that we will be seeing a number of the air strikes and soon, don. >> and michelle, we are hearing that the united arab emirates has stopped the air strikes, and has the u.s. military moved a response to this some. >> the u.s. official is saying no the assets are shifting as the mission is changing. what is interesting is that the uae is saying ha they have stopped the air strikes, and an important partner, and still a
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member of the coalition, but important partner in conducting the air strikes, and so few other nations are doing this especially in syria, but they said that they felt that once this jordanian pilot was captured in december they felt that the response to rescue was too slow, and it might have contributed to him being captured and they were concern d concerned about the their own pilots being at risk. that is a big deal. the u.s. response was that there was an intensive rescue operation initiated right after this happened as result of the circumstances on the ground they could not get to the pilot but the u.s. is disputing that the rescue assets were not available. they rare saying that not the case in this situation and that precautions have been taken so that pilots are not at risk. some analysts are believing that the uea is doing that to stop
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the air strikes is excuses and political pressure for stopping the air strikes inside of the arab emirates but with the terrible murder of this jor dan jordanian murdered pilot, the pressure is back on again, and they believe the air strikes will start again. >> and jomana, the father of the jordanian pilot, demanded that they avenge his son's death. >> translator: i demand that the government of jordan avenge the blood of my son. i e demanddemand that the revenge is bigger than executing prisoners, and i say that this criminal be annihilated. >> there are reports that the mother ripped off the scarf, and that jordan will increase the
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air strikes, and is that going to be enough for the public though? >> well, don, this is what the people want to see. they have said that they have heard the promises are from the jordanian government and from the king here in jordan and the officials have promised earth-shaking response when it comes to the killing of the jordanian pilot, and now they say they want to see it and they want to see it fast. as you mentioned, there is talk that jordan could increase its air strikes as part of the coalition mission. this is something that we are getting a sense that many jordanians want to see. not everyone in the country supported the government's decision to take part manyin the u.s.-led coalition against isis, but today, we we were out on the streets, streets, and we spoke to people here, and there seems to be following the killing of the pilot, there seems to be a change in the sentiment or opinion here that more people are rallying around the
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government and the king, and they want to see a military response against isis. >> are they worried, jomana about becoming a bigger target of isis because of the air strikes? >> well from what they are seeing so far, don jordanians believe, that they are already a target especially with the latest brutal kill canning of the jordanian pilot. this has shocked the nation, and it reminded them of what a target jordan is to these extremist groups. jordan can hashas been hit before many 0 2005 as we have seen when al qaeda had taken control in neighboring iraq, and now the jordanians are concerned as they have been for a while as there is so much territory controlled in two neighboring countries and bordering countries syria and iraq.
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and we have been seeing the security increasing as isis was make tg making the advances in iraq, and of course, there is the concern about the jihadi threat within. jordan has always struggled with with the problem of extremists within its own borders, too. >> and jomana thank you so much. and standby as well. joining me is now fareed zakaria, the host of "fareed zakaria, gps." we are getting word now that the uae has suspended the participation in air strikes for against isis. what do you see about this? >> well, there is more of a smoke screen than real because of the slow response to the search and rescue. and this is a shift in the war that is going well for the united states and badly for the isis. the execution, and the brutality of it is masking a reality which is that isis is not doing particularly well on the ground.
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it is not doing well in iraq. it has not done particularly well in syria, and though there it is more mixed. they did lose the battle of coe banny, ni-- kobani and remember that the hypothesis is that they took two japanese hostages. why would they do that? because japan is irrelevant? it is because japan is so rich and so maybe they are not doing as well on the money-making side as we think. so all nin all, maybe isis is not doing as well as we might think. >> and so the video of the pilot being burned to crowds -- why would they do that? watching the execution of the pilot, and cheering? why would they do that? what are they trying to accomplish of that? >> the key strategy of terrorism is fear. >> showing it on the big screens? >> yes we have the big crowds, and they love us, and we have
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support, and support for the brutal methods and the whole idea is to frankly make us scared overe reaktreact and fearful, and make us think that they have a big army out there. and generally speak inging, what is true about the terrorism, you are surprised how small the force was, but because of the illusionist trick, and doing the things they are doing now, they make you think that they are much more dangerous than they r and bigger than they are. >> senator lindsey graham today. >> no other countries have flown in syria other than jordan. we have flown and all of the other arab coalitions combined have been less of the combat time than syria. >> and so if the discussing the desecration of a muslim does not get the arab countries to the act, h then what will? >> it is a good question and on
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this question i agree with lindsey graham and some of it is the obama administration is to blame, but it is not. it is a problem for the last 15 years. all of the mulltilateral, and all of the so-called multilateral mission, the united states bears the disproportionate burrdenburden afghanistan, kosovo, libya, and all of these cases, if this is not going to get the countries going, what will? the uae is a good example, and it is because the population is divided and the government likes to play it safe, and all of these governments are very cautious because they are not democratic and be honest. hay have a tenuous legit maimacy, and they don't want to be too bold. they don't want to lead, because they don't know whether anyone is following. it is not like they won the election. >> and you know we we vhave been wondering if islam has been perverted by these guys. and there is a phrenfrench hostage of isis told cmn in the ten months
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that he was held captive, there was no koran, and so what twisted version are they practicing? >> they are thugs. they are local thugs trying to dominate a region. it is familiar in a sense that when you closer to the organizations, what you will discover, it is not about religion but power. h this is disaffected young men, and some of whom may feel they are getting a raw deal by the government of baghdad or the government in damascus or syria, and then they latch on to the ideology of discontent, and the ideology of discontent oin the arab world is this islamic radicalism and without knowing too much about it they know about burning the body without knowing this is profoundly nonislamic, and not much about islam, and they know too much not taught and it is not religious scholars or particularly devout even.
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>> and if there is no evidence of marleyparticularly devout, then why follow them? >> because in the arab world, there are some reregimes that are corrupt or dictatorial, and illegitimate illegitimate and they come around and say, we have a pure version of the rule that is better or what and so there is a lot of discontent in the arab world, and they feed off of it, and there is a huge unemployment, and a lot of the as you say, a huge youth bulge, and 65% of the population is under 28 or something like that, and so these young men have nothing to do and they are told by these young guys that trust me, islam is the answer. when i grew up in india marxist revolution was the answer. and anybody who wanted to be the revolutionist, follow mao, and now it is follow their version of the islam. >> i thought that what i thought was something simple of something to do, and many times,
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it is just something to do. >> the more that people analyze the groups, they find it is young men with nothing to do and deep sense of frustration, and alienation, and this gives them some sense of great power, and some sense of doing something important, and meaningful. >> and do you have to put the boots on the ground, u.s.? >> i think that is what isis wants. why do you think they are doing to the videos? they want to draw us in. >> and 7-year-old viewing this from isis. we will talk about that. and is all of this propaganda war, and are they winning? also what happened moments before this speck tack the lar crash? look at this. was the plane doomed from the start? >> what is behind the deadly crash on this commuter train? our experts are going to weigh in on that.
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by releasing video of the barbaric execution of the jordanian pilot, isis has upped the ante on the war of coalition nations seeking to e dedestroy it. and propaganda da is a toolthat isis is using, but there may p a downside to it. dan simon has the report. >> reporter: it is maybe one of the most gruesome act of terror caught on tape. and now imagine that shown on giant screens.
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a little boy smiling and joyful as he is seen the images of the burning pilot. i would have burned him with my own hands he tells an isis interviewer, and like hitler and the nazis or the soviets and the tanks or the north korean tanks, isis is master inging the art of propaganda, and the goal of which is to unify supporters and the goal of rerecruitment. this video, does it meet the very definition of propaganda? >> this sis the most heinous form of war propaganda as we have seen in a long time. as the the president called it medieval in approach. >> reporter: but there sis a danger of unleashing this brutal propaganda beheadings and now a burning that isis may not understand. it can serve as a unifying force for isis en hmys. >> i don't believe that their campaign has been effective in the long run, and the whole world hates them and they are
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going to be destroyed in the end. but on a short term basis when you are look porging for the bodies, they are looking for offering excitement for young people and darth vader of the offer the dark mask and join a gang >> reporter: they have slick hollywood effects and slick contrast of the osama bin laden effects. they may hate the west but they are using twitter and other social media to spread its message. >> you can get a iphone and put out a snuff film and this is different, because the idea to use butchery to reinforce the morale of the troops and put the fear of the enemy is as old as time. we used to use the old uncle sam
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posters, but uncle sam pointing a a finger with a beard is not the same as putting somebody in a cage and burning them is not the same thing. >> and some say that the acts of barbarism like we saw on the street streets in syria is not likely to stop. >> and so joining us we will ask, what is isis going to do next? isn't that what they want us to be thinking right now? >> well, they are do going to be doing it for a couple of things. they are using violence to control the population. they are not structured well to govern, don, so the way they control the villages is by sheer violence, so that is why they went through and cut off hands, and summarily cut off heads and
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everything else and so it is to show the world that they are extremely violent and do anything they immediate to do and hoping that the fear portion gets concessions for them. >> we hear so much from the president about destroying and degrading, and we know that the u.s. and allies have dropped more than 2,000 bombs on isis, and has the momentum been halted. if you look at it in iraq 1,242, and in syria about 2,462 air strikes on isis, and are they being degraded? >> well i have always worried when the white house tries to testimony per them in sheer numb numbers that 1,000 bombs equal the fact that we are really doing something. the proof is not just if they have stopped the momentum, and if you listen to language what that tells me is that we are not winning this thing. and so that is as a recruiting tool for isis. they have dropped a lot of
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ordnance over the last few months but the real measure of it is do they have command and control? do they have logistical control to operate in syria and iraq? and unfortunately the answer is yes and yes. they are using the videos, and it is a huge recruiting tool, and we see the acts of barbarism, and it just takes your breath away but they say, we are beating the western powers and the king doms of saudi saudi arabia, and uae, and jordan and that is where i want to be and be a part of that, and that is what i want to be. >> that is what i want to say, because the small boy that we saw in dan simon's story saying that he would want to burn the pilot in that video, is that common bob some. >> well, again -- >> bob? >> well, you know it is very common. what we are, don, we have to pay
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attention to is that these people are believers, and they are willing to give up their live s lives in this war, and they look at the world as us/then. and these little children that you see, they are goading and go going along with this, they are agreeing to become suicide bombers, and i can say, in fact that the islamic state would not mind some offensive this summer led by the west and they can say, look we told you that the west is out to destroy us. i agree with mike, it is an enemy that is going to be out for a long time. it is a virus that is going to be very difficult to kill, because it is going to be popping up in different parts of the world, and they are almost begging for the united states to put ground troops so they can have a real enemy to fight, and get more e recruits. >> and bob, they have used and made extraordinary use of technology with the cameras, and some editing gear, and the internet and terrorizing the
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world, and why can't we shut them down? >> you can't shut them down, because they are sophisticated and using the mobile wi-fi, and they will stop in the desert and take a shot at a satellite, upload their images, and that is the way they communicate, and they will be up for 40 minutes, and that i have found holes in the national security agency in the cypress command defenses and they have been raegd snowden, and they know what they have been doing, and we can't close them down in the cyber warfare. >> and something that resonated you talked about the psychology of the cyber warfare, and you said that these guys were psychotic, and what can you tell us about the minds of the isis fighter? >> well they are looking at this as a clash of civilizations. i spent a lot of time in israeli prisons, talking the the suicide
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bombers, and they look at it that we we have to kill the israeli children and women to produce more prizsoldiers and we have to exterminate them all, and it is fascist, and thaey don't care. and we are from the air, but at the end of the day, they are producing martyrs, and they are going to be simply recruiting more. so it is more than simple propaganda, because they are convincing people that it is worth fighting in this fight, and that is why it is so difficult to destroy this movement. >> and the question mike are they as powerful as they think? how many men does isis have and how much territory do they really control? >> well, they have still thinking that the territory is about the size of indiana, and maybe less now, and remember they are still robust fighting around mosul, and that has not been done, and coe kobani has
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stopped the advance, and this is important to listen when the president says it or the folks providing the messaging for the president, they have stopped the advance of aisle to greater territory, but they have not been able to disrupt the logistical operations, and the ability to control large swathes of territory. that again, is very concerning. they have had an impact, and they have hit a number of mobile territory to go on the sale of the open market, and that has had the impact, but the intelligence on the ground inside of the areas is not very good. it is not great. we don't have good eyes on their ability, and so when you talk about 1,000 bombs, great and if the you hit three things out of 1,000 drops, it is not a successful event, and that is why we have to be careful not to judge it in how many bombs we
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take a look at this. this sis amazing dash cam video which show ss a plane clipping a taxi cab in taiwan and crashing into the river below and kill canning 31 people and there it sis again. incredibly though some of those on board survived and got out of the wreckage. some of the officials are investigating the collision of a commuter train and suv north of new york city that killed six people. so there sis a lot to talk about with mary skyavo and david soucie. and good eve p-- good evening to both
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of you. and david, you investigated plane crashes for the faa, and look agent the incredible dash cam video in taiwan, what can you see? >> i see that the left engine is not producing power. the blades are not pulling forward like they would if they were having power, and bending backwards, and the aircraft it appears to me that the propeller is not fully feathered, and so when the engine quits, it is parallel to the line of flight so that it does not resist the air flow but if it does not do that, you have a 12-foot diameter block that stops p any air from going through it, and it can stall that left wing and that is what appears it happened there. >> it is quick there, but the pilot calls out mayday. >> mayday can mayday, engine flameout. >> mayday mayday engine
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flameout. what can the investigators learn from this, david? >> well, it is interesting when you hear that the wings are level and flying straight, so that tells you that he had power in one engine, and nothing has restricted that side of the engine and so when that mayday was called he knew he had an engine out, and at that point, maybe he made the decision to fly left. i have flown out of taipei doing the surveillance in the cob pith there, and flying out, you have to follow the river down, and if you don't, you will go over the apartments, so from the track, that is what he was doing, and them when he lost the engine, he did not want to make anymore fatalities and may have intention intentionally gone to the left if it wasn't from what i said before from the feathering issue. >> and before i go to mary i want to go to the animation which shows the plane with low speed and low altitude and explain what is happening with
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this example that you brought in? >> yes, this is from the previous accident and this is going to tell you when the aircraft is going to take off, this is a critical point in the flight when you are low altitude, low air speed and then you risk the stall, so that the aircraft starts to stall, you lose control the and if one wing or the other goes out first, and you can see how identically this animation which was done years ago from the previous accident, this is from the atsb and from australia, and this is almost exactly identical of how this air crashed, and you can see low altitude and low air speed and loss of engine. >> it is unbelievable video there. and now going from the airplane s to trains, and deadliest crash in the train's history, and this is the second busiest commuter line, and the ntsb has taken
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control, and mary many people around the country and the world commute by train everyday and some just travel by train, and how likely is something like this to happen? >> well actually very rare. there are about 270 death ss per year in the united states from rail accident, but when you think about it it is 212,000 highway rail crossings, and in almost every case where there is a death or accident at a rail crossing it is where where someone has entered or crossed the track, and usually the accidents are close to people's homes, so there is an explanation por what happened and the federal government has managed to reduce over two decades the deaths by two-thirds, but it is still usually a case of human error,r and somebody entering the track and in many cases trespassing on the track. >> and i have a bunch of questions for you, and if we can go through this quickly, did they die from smoke inha halation or impact mary? >> in this case died from smoke
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inha halation and impact because like usually there was a accident in the subway and it was smoke inhalation but here it was both. >> and on planes, you get a mandatory instruction about the escape route, and emergency procedures, and why don't they do it on the trains? >> it is a good question, because there is no reason not to do it on the trains and in some cases the windows on trains can be harder to open and not as uniform as on planes, and that is one thing that the ntsb will be are recommending after this crash. >> and the people who died are in the front car, a san diego there a particular hazard up front? >> well, there is. on the train crashes, often they occur with with the engine hitting something on the track, and that is the most typical way it occurs and the engine in the first couple of cars of course they act as the crushstone and it is the cars that take the brunt of it and the place that you are less likely to be en
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welcome back everyone. emotion al emotional day in the murder trial of nfl star aaron hernandez. the victim's girlfriend and mother took the stand, but tu jur jury may not have seen the most emotional moment. susan candiotti has more now. >> reporter: remembering a painful day. shaneah jenkins is watching herself on video camera visiting the home of aaron hernandez. she is hugging aaron hernandez and her sister after learning that odin lloyd has been shot dead less than a mile away from the hernandez home.
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shaneah testifies that hernandez is also in the home that day. >> did he seem shaken up? >> stressed. >> reporter: nine days later, hernandez is arrested for lloyd's murder. the murder weapon is still miss g missing missing. prosecutors show jurors home surveillance photos of hernandez can' fiancee showing something in her hands. >> this eyeitem that she is holding. do you know what that is? >> the black trash bag. >> reporter: authorities suspect that hernandez' fiancee sitting behind him in court is using the trashbag to hide the murder weapon to throw it away after getting a coded message, and jenkins is questioned on how much time she spent with her boyfriend, and jenkins says it is in visits with her older sister and hernandez once treating them to the sky box for
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a preseason patriot's game, and on this far right, hernandez with the shot of them going to the private club. and then odin's mother was asked to identify her dead son without the jury present. >> does that depict your son's body? >> yes. >> and the part of the body that is shown is the head? >> yes. >> and the judge is warning lloyd's mother to control her emotions on the stand. >> it is very important that you manage in this time that you are testifying to retain control of your emotions and not the try while you are looking at any photo that may be shown to you. do you understand that? >> yes, ma'am. >> reporter:r and when the jury is finally brought in again, she keeps the emotions in check. and the jury not allowed to see the autopsy photos until they deliberate. with hernandez a watching intently ward said that she knew many of her son's friends,
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but not hernandez. >> had you met him before? >> no. >> had he ever come to your home? >> no. >> reporter: but she clearly remembers seeing her son on father's day 2013. >> i just saw his beautiful pink 5-minute drive to crime scene which is close to aaron hernandez' home. and pros kuecutors will e show them the cell phone towers where they picked up a ping from aaron hernandez' cell phone which puts him at the crime scene, but finally,r don, finally, the
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defense will give the jury a guided tour of aaron hernandez' home to show them the security system but also they will get a look at the trophy case. don don? >> it is fit hag the defense asked again and again why would aaron hernandez kill his friend who he spent so much time with and girlfriend, because the defense team got a charns to cross-examination odin lloyd's girlfriend and were they effective in the krox? >> well, don, it is unclear. she was very cool and collected on the stand. she testified that odin lloyd, her boyfriend, and aaron hernandez they hung out together and they smoked a lot of pot, but they got together mostly because of her when she was visiting her sister. and she said it is important to remember that they did hang out, but she however acknowledges that there was one time one very important time that she didn't know about them hanging
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out, and that is when hernandez and lloyd partied at a nightclub and later at an apartment that hernandez kept and that prosecutors say that hernandez got angry at odin lloyd and it turns out, don, that two nights later, that is when odin lloyd was gunned down. >> susan candiotti, thank you for your report and when we come back your expert team of judges will weigh many in on what ha happen ded in the courtroom today. especially if you're thinking of moving an old 401(k) happened in the courtroom today. happened in the courtroom today. appened in the courtroom today. and the free help you need in on what happened in the courtroom today. in on what happened in the courtroom today. in on what happened in the courtroom today. in on what happened in the courtroom today. in on what happened in the courtroom today. r. tap into the full power of your fidelity green line. call today and we'll make it easy to move that old 401(k) to a fidelity rollover ira.
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. the judge in the aaron hernandez murder case warned the victim's mother today to cop troll her emotions on the stand, and i want to know what our judges think the about this. i am joined by judge larry seidlin who presided over to the anna nicole trial, and also judge hatchett, and i want to find out what you think about this. >> it is important many this time that you are testifying to are retain control of your
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emotions and not the cry while you are testifying about any photo that you are being shown. do you understand that? >> yes, ma'am. >> judge hatchett, have you ever? >> it is a grieving mother. >> i can understand try to kon control your emotion, and don, i have never ever seen that. and i have a had a lot of family members crying in the courtroom, and you can just cannot say that to a grieving mother. i don't foet't know how you expect that don, and i wonder what she would have done the if she started to cry, and she is not going to be putting her in jail and put a fine on her. and i mean, i can't imagine that you could do anything. >> and judge seidlin, you famous famously teared up when you came down with the anna nicole smith decision. and we saw odin lloyd's mother
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cry in court, and emotions play a role in court particularly in a jury trial. >> that is a harsh admonishment that the judge xwaif the mother, and the trial is supposed to be the search for the truth. supposed to be a search for the facts. and you can't tell an individual how they should react to certain questions and certain bits of evidence. it is just bad form and i think that it causes issues for the jury. beside s besides that fact, the defendant, a good lawyer who represented the defendant is going to tell the defendant, put your family members on the front row, and let them be crying when certain evidence comes out to try to prejudice that jury and try to have an effect on the jury. >> and was the judge trying to say, maybe you are putting on and swaying the jury by is that what possibly is going on here? >> well you know -- >> well, the --
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>> sorry, judge. >> and you know, when the times when the photos were shown, and i think that the judge was anticipating that she might be very emotional on the stand today, but i think that she took it too far don. i really do. and i do know that there are people who are theatrical but you have a grieving mother, and it seems almost unnatural for her pot to show some emotion on the stand when she sees pictures of her son. >> and lloyd's fiancee and the defendant's girlfriend are sisters, a sisters, and we saw them hugging the day that odin lloyd was killed and now they witting on op opposite sides. what do you make of this? >> at that point, they were consoling each other at a time that was difficult, but now, hernandez' fiancee is go g toing to
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stand with him, and the victim's girlfriend is going to be standing with the mother and that family, and this this is is a house divided, and tlhere is going to be a lot of pain, and a lot of tension in this family for years to come regardless of the outcome. >> and judge seidlin, have you seen anything like this two family members on opposite sides in your courtroom? >> yes, you will have it in probate court fighting over mo money, and family court where the husband and the wife are ripping each other apart and destroying the children. you will see it in the courthouse each day. >> yes. in murder trial ss, too. >> but who else do you fight with, people that you know and people you rare related to the, and that is who you are going to be fighting with, and that is why most of the crimes t the victim and the suspect, there is a e relationship. that is how they, the police -- >> they know each other. >> so looking ahead to friday, the jurors may be taking the field trip to tour the crime scene in aaron hernandez' home.
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i remember this in the o.j. trial that they put them on a bus to the crime scene. how important is this? >> well, it is important. and it is term eded on site inspection, and it is not a trip to the dizsney world, but they try to reenact what took place, and a picture is worth a million words. and it is very helpful, and it is very important. i am worried though that this jury has been polluted. that you have 18 jurors, and they were were allowed to go home, and they are allowed to watch tv. they are allowed to the listen to the radio and talk to the friends, and family, and are you tell telling p me that all 18 members are so honorable that they have not been polluted by someone outside? i this think that this judge should stand up to the court administrator who says that we don't have the money to se quest ter jury and i this this they judge hatchett would agree with
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me. >> and judge hatchett one of the jurors was kicked off because she said that she was a bigger fan she let on. >> and yes heeshe said that she could not find him guilty without a weapon, and that is a e blow to-- that is a blow to the defense because there were no cameras. >> oh, that is quick. usually it takes people a long time. >> i know how it works. >> yes you do. thank you. and the coming up the life and death of a real life sniper, and the jury selection coming up in the trial of chris kyle and the case against him. all the way until... [birds chirping] the am. new aleve pm.
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