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"new day," it is thursday february 5th just before 6:00 in the east and jordan is vowing a relentless war against the terrorists as revenge for the killing of their pilot. that could mean airstrikes on targets outside syria. jordan's king abdullah telling u.s. lawmaker he is plans to pursue isis until the jordan's military runs out of bullets. >> it comes as a crucial arab ally pulls out of the coalition. united arab emirates says it is suspended their role in airstrikes against isis until it is certain that their pilots would be saved if shot done. in response the pentagon adding search-and-rescue teams in northern iraq to protect pilots we begin our coverage of this with cnn's atika shubert in oman jordan. >> we know that king abdullah at the moment enjoys full public support to hit back at isis and hit them hard. jordan's king abdullah now
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vowing a quote relentless war on isis. the u.s. official tells cnn the arab kingdom seeking to launch more airstrikes against the terrorist group. the king in line with his people's cries for revenge, the possible increase in fire power a direct retaliation for one of their own. pilot muath al-kasasbeh. it's still unclear what formed their earth-shaking retaliation might take. word that the united arab emirates a key player in the coalition against isis suspended airstrikes after the jordanian pilot was captured in december. the white house is the downplaying the loss of the uae's airpower. >> we certainly appreciate their commitments, i can tell you the pace of operations in syria has not slowed. >> the administration focusing on the coalition being at least 60 countries strong. the u.s. conducting a large percentage of the airstrikes.
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this as the u.s. military moves some search and rescue assets into northern iraq and yesterday at his confirmation hearing to become the next secretary of defense ashton carter promising to resolve the u.s. arms sales delays to jordan. >> king abdullah plan his next military moves is expected to arrive in karak. this is the village where the kasabeh family comes from. the king coming to give condolence to their family but to make sure he has their support and the support of prominent families and tribes across jordan to step up the airstrikes against isis. >> atika shubert thanks for the background. we want to bring this cnn political commentator, peter
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beinart. contributing editor to "track" and lieutenant colonel james reese, the founder of tiger swan and former commander of delta force. is jordan's public commitment to being relentless against isis a turning point? >> think we're going to see a more aggressive campaign. this was a fight that the regime believed in but the public was rel tlif hostatively hostile to. i think now you see the country of jordan as a whole is very strongly invested in this. i think the fact we have a new and nor aggressive defense secretary in ashton carter is going to lead to new forms of aggressive action against isis. >> colonel reese, will jordan's
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relentless campaign against isis be able to make a difference against isis? >> it will. it will and i believe it can. however, they have to have support. jordan has a great military but jordan is one of the poorer arab nations compared to the uae and saudi who have the oil so they're going to need some financial support. they're going to need some extra weapons and extra enabling equipment. but jordan has the resolve and they have the military to do it. >> peter, the uae and morocco have announced they are suspending their operations against isis. why are they pulling out? >> there's been some controversy about fears on their behalf about whether if their pilots go down they will be rescued. there was some controversy about how long it took the u.s. and others to troy to rescue this jordanian pilot. i suspect that i think there's some evidence that the u.s. is making moves to try to reassure its arab allies that the u.s.
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will make even greater efforts to get a pilot who is shot down. think about it after this gruesome video, countries are concerned about what could happen to their members. >> colonel reese, there's no guarantees in this war if a pilot is shot done. but the pentagon does say they're moving troops into better positions in northern iraq in the event that a pilot is shot done. is this a simple-enough fix to get the uae and morocco back on board? >> it does help. every pilot knows that when they cross the enemy lines into syria, or western iraq they know there's risk. however, we've been launching combat search-and-rescue or staging it down in kuwait which is over 800 miles away if you look at raqqa, capital of isis. now we are moving some assets up to the kurdistan area about 400 miles away. if you've got some over in jordan you'd be about 250. this would be a great place for the turks to get involved let
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us use one of their border air fields and you'd be only 100 miles away. this is in the syria aspect. i look at raqqa, their capital, because we don't have really anyone on the ground in syria, our intelligence is very low. so this to me is the major concerning aspect if we lost an aircraft over the syria air space. in the iraq air space, at least there's iraqi ground forces in those that can move towards that crashed pilot. which reduces the risk. >> you know we talked about the coalition air strikes, but really the lion's share falls to the united states. we have a graphic to show how much of the united states has done versus over countries. 80% of the air strikes have been conducted by the u.s. 20% conducted by the coalition. peter, do you think that jordan will change that equation? >> i think jordan will probably increase its air strikes, but i don't think that air strikes alone are the most important thing that jordan can contribute. i think intelligence is very important. jordan is closer to the ground than we are and has a very good
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intelligence service that think could help us. i think another key point is these tribes. they're powerful tribes not just in jordan but stretch across borders into iraq and syria. the sunni awakening that defeated al qaeda in 2006 was because powerful sunni tribes turned against al qaeda. could there be some way of activating some of these powerful tribes in syria and iraq against isis? >> colonel reese, you have a theory that other countries will not fully participate in the coalition and commit to doing so until the u.s. says it will take out bashar al assad. what do you mean? >> well alisyn i'm going keep banging my drum that i have for months. what i believe is everyone is trying to find out what is our policy in syria and the assad regime. we've been talking about it for months. the turks have been very adamant about it. they want to know what we're going to do. they want a no-fly zone in there to help protect the assets.
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when we put the a i sets in we don't know what assad is going to do. this continues to be the center of gravity. no one is talking about it we need to bring people to bear we need to bring the coalition down with the key arab states with the saudis the jordanians sit down figure it out have, a plan and we need to go after it. >> colonel james reese, peter beinart. thanks for the expertise. over to michaela. right now secretary of state john kerry is meeting behind closed doors with ukraine's president in kiev. as violence in that country's eastern region escalates once again. chief national security correspondent jim sciutto is traveling with kerry and joins us live from kiev with the latest. >> good morning michaela. secretary kerry arriving in kiev during very bad weather and a dire situation on the ground. we've got a briefing on the plane in from a senior state department official described the situation on the ground as a dire security situation with a grave acceleration of the
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fighting. and this is really picked up in the last two or three days russian and pro russian separatist forces gaining hundreds of square miles of ground. lots of civilian casualties and the front of this fighting moving from eastern ukraine further and further west this is a true crisis a true war really in europe today. and that's a crisis also the senior state department official telling us on the plane that right now, in terms of russia's interest in a negotiated solution in the words of a senior state department official, russia failing that test miserably. saying it's the russian people who are paying for what was described as this imperial adventure so very strong words coming from u.s. officials. the question is what is the response? we know that ukrainian officials want more help in particular lethal weapons. but that debate still going on in the administration. what secretary kerry is arriving with here today, is $16.5
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million in humanitarian aid. that not likely to satisfy the ukrainians i wouldn't be surprised if behind closed doors, he's hearing requests for more help. the real question here is how to help ukrainian forces push back against this russian and this pro russian advance. they don't feel they have the weapons now and there are voices inside the administration who are pushing for more lethal arms for ukrainian forces. but that decision far away at this point in the obama administration. we're going to be here through the evening today, michaela and we'll be back with more. chris, back to you. >> jim, let us know what comes out of the meeting and be safe over there. 80 million of us have anthem insurance. if you're one, your personal information has been stolen. america's second largest insurer is the latest victim of a massive data breach. chief business correspondent christine romans is here what do we need to know? >> if you're a customer of
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take ton a hospital in baltimore, expected to be okay. to the aaron hernandez murder trial. the trial continues to surprise we learned that sisters were on opposite sides of the case now the judge has scolded the mother of victim odin lloyd for getting emotional. >> it's very important that you manage during this time are you testifying to retain control of your emotions and not cry while you're looking at any photo that may be shown to you, do you understand that? >> yes, ma'am. >> thank you. >> ursula ward choked up. when she saw pictures of her dead son. >> is that a reasonable request? >> it is reasonable. but usual it is elicit emotion. >> for the prosecutor. >> the defense doesn't want to you do that. i don't know how you tell a mom not to do that. >> like that. because shy just did it. >> i don't know if it will work.
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>> this is a very interesting trial dynamic going on here. the balance of who he is versus trying to keep the system pure. worth watching. investigators in taiwan studying the black box data from the transasia plane that plunged into the river. will the mayday call from the cockpit provide the critical clue? can you hear it for yourself next. and the metro north train crash, we have the latest from the investigation, ahead. were just as simple? thanks to angie's list now it is. start shopping online from a list of top-rated providers. visit angieslist.com today. when laquinta.com sends him a ready for you alert the second his room is ready, ya know what salesman alan ames becomes? i think the numbers speak for themselves. i'm sold! a "selling machine!" ready for you alert, only at lq.com.
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critical new developments this morning from two deadly crashes, we begin with the shocking transasia plane crash captured close up on camera in taiwan. 32 people are dead. now we're hearing for the first time the final chilling mayday call from the cockpit. let's bring in anna coren live in taipei. >> michaela it was a chilling mayday call made moments before transasia flight 235 crashed into the cold waters of keelung
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river behind me here in the busy bustling city of taipei. it is a miracle that anyone survived. and yet, almost a quarter of the passengers escaped with their lives. well divers have been scouring these waters all day, looking for the 12 bodies still unaccounted for. newly released hotel security video captures the haunting hours before a group of chinese tourists boarded deadly transasia flight 235. the tourists checking out of their rooms en route to the airport. this as emergency crews continue scouring the river for bodies. out of 58 people on board, astonishingly 15 survived including this toddler. >> a child has several advantages in a crash environment. their bones are more pliable. so they can withstand forces higher forces without fracture. >> over half confirmed dead. and the rest investigators fear
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may have floated down river. one of the survivors says quote, i felt something wasn't right. something was wrong with the engine. because i always take this flight. i fold told the girl beside she me to quickly release the seat belt hold on to the chair in front and cover her head with clothes. not long after the plane went down. it happened shortly after takeoff around 11:00 a.m. in the morning. someone in the cockpit calling out for help. the plane losing power, you can see in the dash cam video the left wing dips appearing to have stalled. seconds later, the plane's wing clis a taxi and the wall of a bridge before plummeting into the river. taiwan's civil aeronautics situation says the plane is less than a year old and just days ago completed a safety check. meanwhile from a pilots of this type of aircraft say it's possible to land safely with one
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engine as long as you increase air speed. >> you try to maintain the alternate engine air speed. however in this case that didn't happen so something has gone horribly wrong. >> answers hopefully found in the plane's black boxes. now maintenance crew looked at that plane and gave it the okay to fly. and that was just minutes before it took off. authorities now very much focusing on engine failure. as the cause of this crash. alisyn? >> we've seen that video now 25 times and it is still just so stunning to watch. thank you for that report. now to the finally train wreck just north of new york city that killed seven people. this morning investigators trying to piece together what led to a woman's suv getting stuck on the tracks. deborah feyerick is here with more. >> we're learning more this morning. family friends did identify the
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suv driver as ellen brody, a mother with three grown daughters, she was on the tracks when the crossing gates closed. an eye witness who spoke to local officials says she got out of the vehicle when the gates came down looked at the back of the car. got inside the vehicle, but instead of reversing, she went forward putting her directly in the path of that oncoming train. as for the rail gates, we've all seen them they're wooden easily broken they're designed that way if a car gets stuck. they're also supposed to lift up if it does come down on a vehicle, that will be a key area of investigation. the ntsb said the train dragged the vehicle 1,000 feet tearing up sections of the third rail which perforated portions of the first car and second car, contributing to deaths of the passengers gasoline from the suv caused a massive explosion and the raging flames and the thick smoke. the ntsb are on the ground they have been able to retrieve recording devices which monitor rail signals and crossing gates,
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they got the suv out of the way and moved the train and investigators could begin to interview metro rail workers, including the conductor who appears to have helped people out of the train before he himself became overwhelmed with smoke. >> we have a lot to track down there. but let's figure out what we know and what it means so far, we have maple leafy sciavo, cnn aviation analyst and the former director general of the department of transportation and mr. david soucie. let's start with the plane crash, we know the last words, mayday mayday engine flame-out. mary sciavo this squares exactly with what you thought was happening by looking at the left side propeller. does that mean that what we see in the maneuvering of that plane wasn't just distress but a pilot trying to avoid things trying to mitigate the circumstances? >> yes, absolutely. when you look at the radar tracings now that are available,
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it's clear he was diverting somewhat from the usual departure, it appeared he was trying to follow the river, which is part of the course on departure, but had made turns around at least one building. that very last turn the very sharp turn i think at that point the plane had last so much lift it was out of control. that was not a controlled turn. but i think the pilot clearly was trying to dodge the buildings and get the plane to the water. hoping to save lives. >> we're going to have to figure out why the engine flamed out. that's critical. we want to assess what was going on with the pilots. david you've taken a closer look at this using the data and creating an animation, let's put it up and talk us through it. >> this san animation that was built from the black boxes on an embraer, a twin-engine turboprop the same as this one. this is an actual accident that occurred during a training flight in 2010. you can see how the movement of the aircraft is almost identical. what happened in this is that the left engine throttle was
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brought back in a training exercise the engine subsequently failed. therefore the auto feather system which is going to be real important here the the auto feather system did not work. creating so much drag on the left side that it actually broke the suction or broke the air over that wing on the left side causing it to stall and it's then banks off making a steep turn as mary said this was uncontrollable at this point. therefore, the aircraft rolled to the left. landing upside-down, exactly the same as the aircraft crash recently. >> to follow on this david, does that mean is it all about the engine or what was done with the plane. in that explanation, you're talking about throttling back creating a stall. creating a situation where feathering with become irrelevant. do we know enough at this point to know whether or not the pilot made errors that led to the distress? >> we don't know enough yet. the primary, secondary, tertiary causes are things that they will be looking at.
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first, the engine obviously went out that could have been from a number of different reasons. fuel starvation to bird ingestion ingestion. number two, how did the pilot react? did he maintain his air speeds did he find a place to land? now remember this aircraft in the normal situation, when that left engine goes out, as long as you maintain the air speed, and don't try to climb too quickly, the aircraft is perfectly capable of staying airborne and making a circle around and coming back and landing. that's not what happened here. so there was at least a secondary cause here in which the auto feather system which aligns the propeller with the direction of flight so not to create excess drag that didn't work. what i see in the video, it is still in a flat position. >> so as we fill in the facts, we'll know even better. we're getting closer to knowing what we need to know to figure out the specifics. mary, i know you were shaking your head nodding your head along with what david was
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saying. i'll take that as agreement. let's move on to the train crash things. we're learning things about that also how did the car come to be on the tracks? is it about crossing gates or driver's rec alsoness that's going to be saved for another day. we don't know enough yet in terms of why this happened, is there any chance it is just an accident? >> just an accident. but a very preventible accident there are about 270 railroad and car crossings accidents per year and almost all of them occur because for some reason the driver has gotten onto the tracks has gone around the gates, which is illegal, and there are 218,000 of these rail grade crossings in the country. so the issue is going to be if the driver was somehow confused. if the gates didn't work et cetera. this is not an isolated incident. it's a problem that the federal government has been working on for two decades, and has brought
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the accident rate down by about two-thirds. >> please both of you come back at 8:00 so we can keep discussing this. we're going to have to figure out how to make the trains safer. we keep learning ways they are preventible. reports come out, but not for about a year from the ntsb so how to make them safer today? david soucie thank you very much and mary sciavo. new englanders are digging out from over four feet of snow. more storms however, could be on the way. one this weekend. could really make a mess. we're going to tell you where the systems are heading, straight ahead. ♪ turn around ♪ ♪ every now and then i get a little bit hungry ♪ ♪ and there's nothing good around ♪ ♪ turn around, barry ♪ ♪ i finally found the right snack ♪ [ female announcer ] fiber one.
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new england still digging out from last week's blizzard and now the region bracing for even more snow. let's go to meteorologist jennifer gray when will it end, jennifer? >> there is no end in sight. you no he we have over two feet of snow pack on the ground across much of new england. when you have this much snow on the ground all of the sun that beats down on the snow just reflects back into the atmosphere. it's very hard to get any warm-up. so it is going to stay cold and it's going to be very hard to get rain. all of it is going to be snow. new england that crosses new england for the time being. that's going to be the case today. it's going to be the case again at the end of the weekend so we do have the front moving through right now. it's actually bringing snow to portions of maine and then on into massachusetts. getting into boston right around the rush hour also looking at snow just outside of
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new york city. so what to expect for the snowfall today? could pick up two to four inches in boston just south of portland picking up two to four. not much. as long as we're talking about snow. we've seen so much. so an inch or two, not that bad. we're going to see a slower moving system move through sunday through tuesday timeframe. bringing much higher amounts, we're looking at nine to 11 inches in new york. depending on which model you're looking at. still disagreeing a little bit. 13 inches in boston according to the gfs. if you're looking at the euro they're saying as high as 19 inches of snowfall. a lot more snow added to what's already on the ground. temperatures are going to be very cold. we're looking at temperatures of 35 today in new york. down to 26 on friday. back up into the upper 30s on saturday. boston is going to stay cold bottoming out at 21 degrees on friday michaela. so we're going to stay cold in the northeast. and the storms are just coming down the pipeline.
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they're going to come one after another for the time being. unfortunately. >> it is winter we have to remember that. >> why does winter last so much longer than summer? >> it's the whistle pig. >> don't remember he's going to call them whistle pigs from now on. >> they've gooned us and bit a public official. >> i forgot about that. it's 6:35 in the east. a relentless war against isis the promise from jordan's king abdullah. following the gruesome killing of a captured jordanian pilot by isis. jordan is said to be considering airstrikes against isis. the u.s. military is moving more assets into iraq. search-and-rescue teams in the event of an aircraft going down in a territory not controlled by isis. the u.s. will give ukraine $16.4 million in humanitarian assistance to help those
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affected byaffect affected. the secretary just finished a meeting with ukraine's president, who tore come. now a measles update. two california state senators proposing to eliminate the personal beliefs exemption for parents who do not want to vaccinate their children. this as the measles outbreak spreads with 99 cases now in california. many of those traced to disneyland. u.s. surgeon general told cnn's dr. sanjay gupta that he believes some states allow too many exemptions but stopped short of calling for mandated vaccines. sanjay will join us next hour with more. "sports illustrated's" new swimsuit issue is out. hannah davis is gracing the cover of the 2015 issue. i think she needs some suspenders her undies are
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drooping. she is dating derek jeter. we want to point out, or i do that the magazine is going to feature a plus-sized model for the first time in an ad. this is ashley graham part of the ad campaign for company swimsuits for all. the issue is available february 9th. >> she locks rocking, too. hers stay up the other ones were drooping. >> if we could go back to miss hannah davis, this is one of the last vestiges of open sexism allowed in the media. >> a bit earl will i for that isn't it? >> this one is really i think this one is really bold. she's not wearing pants. she's not wearing bottoms. >> they're right there. everything that needs to be covered. >> good morning, mom. >> you guys seem to wear these low pants. >> jeans keep moving down and down. >> blame yourselves don't blame us we just look. we don't wear it.
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the cold may be crippling, but it could not compete with new englanders' love of the patriots. the team and the fans braving the cold for victory parade yesterday. andy scholes has more in this morning's "bleacher report." >> you know they didn't have a victory celebration this year because of the subfreezing temperatures in boston but that didn't stop everyone from having a good time at the parade. and no one knows quite how to party like gronk. in what's becoming a super bowl tradition. he caught a mini bottle of fireball whiskey from a fan and he downed it in seconds. marshawn lynch did the same thing last year in seattle. tom brady wasn't taking shots but he was having a good time celebrating the his fourth super bowl championship with his son. and the seahawks wondering what could have been. speaking with "the today show," pete carroll is reflecting on what's being called the worst
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play call in nfl history. >> immediately, i mean within the instant of the turnover the gravity of what just happened i understood. and there's only a second or two before you stand up and start looking ahead and getting ready for what's coming. >> we won't be seeing syracuse in the ncaa tournament this year the orange have self-imposed a postseason ban this year in response to an ongoing investigation into potential infractions by the team. the alleged violations occurred during the 2007 season. school officials said no one on the current team is involved. in the nba last night, steph curry was at it again. he scored 26 points in the third quarter alone. he finished with 51 in the game. curry hit ten 3's, the only player in nba history of the game. warriors beat the mavs 128-114.
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and curry along with his backcourt teammate klay thompson will both be participating in the three-point competition this year. this year guys it will be taking place a little over a week from now in brooklyn. it should go down as probably one of the best three-point competitions of all time. >> he's 6'3" in the day and age when the nba is dominated by giants that the ball is the size an orange in their hands, he has to do it the hard way. he learned from his daddy, del curry was his dad. a string of deadly plane crashes across southeast asia. raising concerns about air safety what kind of training do the pilots receive and what about inspections of the planes. we're taking a look at one of the fastest-growing air travel regions in the world. ♪ etta james "at last" sometimes, at last doesn't happen at first.
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follow as tragic string of crashes over the past year across southeast asia. raising questions about obviously air safety in that region. to asian airlines have a real or perceived safety problem? we put it to our cnn aviation correspondent richard quest here with us this morning. it's going to be a pr problem for these asian airlines. let's talk about regulation first off. think that's one thing we understand how it works here in the united states. how are these -- i know we're talking a lot of different countries -- how is regulation managed? >> that is one of the issues that is going to be clearly has to be addressed. this fragmented regulatory system where each country, many of which do not have the expertise, some clearly do they have course their own regulators. if you take a european example, which is a little more close to asia versus say a single market like the united states. in europe you have the european safety agency. you then have that regulates between all the national agencies. so if you like there is an
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agency above. >> overseeing. >> and what many are saying and suggests is that asia now needs some form of supra-regional agency. the problem is of course getting them all to agree. whether it's asean, northern asian countries, getting them to agree to give up some form of regulateory authority to a larger organization. >> next level is the training the pilots the ground crew the air traffic control people. the training again, speaks to the differences in these nations. >> and what you're looking at here is the large carriers. if you like the emirates the etihads, many of the carriers the singapore airlines you're talking about well-established carriers with enviable reputations for safety and service. in many cases they are employing deeply experienced captains and first officers from other countries. so there is a large, deep
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groundswell of experience. however, the sheer growth of aviation in that part of the world has led some to question the experience of some carriers. >> let me ask you about that why are we seeing that? when i look at the numbers apparently aircraft manufacturers delivered over 1500 planes last year most of them going to asia. give us context as to why there's this growth in air travel in that region. >> if you go back to the united states to the post carter deregulation in the 1980s and you saw the explosion of air traffic that took place in the u.s. it took place in europe in the 1990s. with easy jet and ryanair. now in asia you have air asia, you've got tiger, you've got scoot. you've got all of these airlines. so asia is catching up maybe 20 30 40 years behind. and the issue is whether infrastructure training capabilities experience whether these have kept up. and airlines will not admit it
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publicly. and many officials will not say it openly. but there is a view that the quality of airmanship in emergency situations -- >> is not as good as it perhaps might be. the planes are built to be flown by the medium to average to lower average. they are not built -- >> that's shocking. >> well that's the reality of the world. airbus and boeing build planes to be flown by pilots that may not be first-class. >> that doesn't make me feel good as a flyer, richard. >> it's a reality. in the same way that cars are built to be driven by the best drivers and the worst drivers. the issue becomes when a crisis happens how do they react. and that is the single biggest issue in aviation at the moment. >> let's talk about ratings, you pointed us to airline ratings.com. rate the airlines and to point out, because it's important not to just sort of besmirch the
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entire asian airline industry. the top ones the top three in the top ten, there are three asian airlines with the highest rankings. please look the lowest rankings are all asian airlines. why is there such discrepancy, such a wide-ranging -- >> because of the way they do this. if you look at the top airlines it was qantas it's singapore airlines cathay they're up there with the total number of stars that are available. so your major -- let's take malaysia. it's been flying for 70 years. transasia had been flying for 40-odd years. not like they're small, in the case of malaysia scooby-doo airlines. the truth is it all comes down to investment training and experience. >> richard quest, always an asset in these situations thanks for the context and analysis, i appreciate it. i hope richard is wrong about at least some of that. on to the next controversy, the court of public opinion for better or worse, is in session.
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the defendant, the man on your screen nbc news anchor brian williams he is issuing an apology for something that happened or didn't happen in iraq. take a listen. >> i made a mistake in recalling the events of 12 years ago. >> apology accepted. not an apology? how much should it matter anyway? you tell us, ahead. startup-ny. it's working for new york state. already 55 companies are investing over $98 million dollars and creating over 2100 jobs.
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was shot down by an rpg. williams retold the story friday night as part of an on-air tribute to a soldier. >> the story actually started with a terrible moment a dozen years back during the invasion of iraq. when the helicopter we were traveling in was forced down after being hit by an rpg. our traveling nbc news team was rescued, surround and kept alive by an armored platoon from the u.s. army third infantry. >> the trouble is the story isn't true. let's bring in the host of reliable sources, brian stelter. brian, great to see you. we've looked back at the chronology of brian williams talking about this event when in 2003 when it happened he did not claim to be on the helicopter. he wade said he was on a chopper about 45 minutes behind the helicopter that was shot down. in 2007 the story started to morph where he started to say we were shot down. all of our helicopters took
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rpgs. something happened. >> he became closer to the story. the story became murkier and he became more involved in the story. in 2013 on the david letterman program, he talked as if it may have been his helicopter that was hit by the rpg and last week he explicitly says his helicopter was hit. this doesn't pass the smell test. you may want to believe this was an innocent mistake. how could anyone conflate being on a helicopter that did not take fire to being on a helicopter that did take fire. there's so many people scratching their heads, wondering how they got it wrong. >> he blames a foggy memory granted 2003 is a long time ago. >> and that's fog of war. we know that phrase. >> we know that how does that sit with you? >> the issue is all the times in the past where as you're saying the story got murkier over time that seems as if it was intentional, not just an innocent mistake. the big question on the table,
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that williams didn't address on air, is how far he was away. if it's true as stars and stripes newspaper has reported as some soldiers have reported that his chopper was about an hour away well then why was he describing as if he was in the formation of four helicopters where this rpg attack happened. >> and if it was foggy, why keep bringing it up. if i don't remember something clearly, i have a tendency to not bring it up. >> i don't know why you bring up the fog of war. he never mentioned that. >> the fog of memory. is what i'm talking about. things with get murky. >> i think memory is either right or it is wrong. we're in the business of being right. but i also think you have to look at how big a deal is this. that goes to the apology. did he bring it out in a sufficient way? did he apologize in the right way? how much does this matter? because my concern is you got a guy who has been doing his job for a long time at a high level, i don't know him, he's not a friend of mine. this isn't about protecting the collective. if anything, i feel opposite about the media in general. you know it's going to happen.
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they are starting to eat him alive. and i can understand being protective of ones self in that situation. >> you say "they" i would say people like me looking at the chronology. >> i'm saying the lesser outlets and the growing mass of the angry. >> folks are saying this is a lie. i understand why they are saying that. in fact some of the soldiers on facebook are calling him a liar. they were saying they've been trying to raise red flags about this for years. that's what's so notable about the story. we sat here a couple of weeks ago, and i said what's great about the internet is the power of the internet. the soldiers spoke up on facebook and that triggered all the reporting this week and now this apology. i don't think that apology went far enough. he's not explaining. >> let's play a clip of the apology that brian williams issued. >> i want to apologize, i said i was traveling in an aircraft that was hit by rpg fire. i was instead in a following aircraft. we all landed after the ground
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fire incident and spent two harrowing nights in a sandstorm in the iraq desert. this was a bungled attempt by me to thank one special veteran and by extension, our brave military men and women, veterans everywhere those who have served while i did not. i hope they know they have my greatest respect and also now my apology. >> what's wrong with that apology? >> he addressed whey said on air last week. but didn't address the other cases like on the dave letterman show in 2013. i think it was a halfway measure and it wasn't going all the way. and he's not addressing why people are saying he is lying about this as opposed to making a mistake. you know, 60 sekds o0 seconds on the "nightly news" is not enough to address this one of the most important news anchors in our country. the single most-watched news anchor in our country. trust and credibility is key here. brian williams has a lot of it. he has earned it over so many years. this is a serious blow to that
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credibility. >> thanks so much. this is one of the stories out there. there are more important stories and a lot of news to get to this morning. so let's get to it. the jordanians want to increase the number of airstrikes they're carrying out. >> the end of the day it's going to take a regional force beyond jordan. >> i don't want 0 see the american ground forces carrying the heavy load again. >> it's got to have modern arab nations bringing this force to bear. mayday mayday engine burn-out. >> the final seconds of transasia airways flight 235. >> a flame-out means the engine has lost its combustion. >> this toddler somehow survived. >> screaming, yelling. it was just total panic. smoke and flames poured out of a packed metro north train. >> why was the car on the train tracks? and what caused this accident to be failed? >> announcer: this is "new day," with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota and michaela pereira.
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>> good morning, welcome back to "new day." the savage killing of a captured jordanian pilot by isis triggering renewed global outrage in jordan king abdullah vowing to wage a relentless war against the terrorists. jordan planning more airstrikes which could include hitting isis targets outside of syria for the first time. >> however, that which is making jordan get further in is making others pull back. the uae is suspending airstrikes complaining that u.s. search-and-rescue assets weren't close enough to protect shot-down pilots. >> the pentagon is denying that. but moving additional assets into northern iraq anyway. let's get the latest on this story, cnn's atika shubert following developments in oman jordan atika? >> chris, just a few moments ago we actually saw four jordanian fighter jets flying overhead in the skies of oman. we understand that these are jets that just recently returned from flying missions against isis in syria and iraq. and they've actually passed through not only oman but also
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the skies over karak, wb king be a dull aaabdullah is paying respects to the kasabeh family. jordan's king abdullah vowing an a relentless war on isis. the arab kingdom seeking to launch more airstrikes against the terrorist group. the king in line with his people's cries for revenge, the possible increase in firepower a direct retaliation for one of their own. pilot muath al-kasasbeh. it's still unclear what form their earth-shaking retaliation might take. meanwhile, word that the united arab emirates, a key player in the coalition against isis suspended airstrikes after the jordanian pilot was captured in december the white house is downplaying the loss of the uae's air power. >> we've appreciated the wide range of commitments that the united arab emirates has moud to
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the broader national coalition, including the military commitments. i can tell you that the pace of operations in syria has not slowed. >> the administration instead focusing on the coalition being at least 60 countries strong. the u.s. conducting a large percentage of the air strikes. this as the u.s. military moves some search-and-rescue assets into northern iraq. and just yesterday, at his confirmation hearing to become the next secretary of defense, ashton carter promptsing to resolve the u.s. delays in arms sales to jordan. >> we need partners on the ground to beat isis and the jordanian people have clearly reacted the way that encourages us to support them. >> we want to get now to barbara starr, she has some breaking news for us at pentagon. barb remarks what do we know? >> alisyn good morning. i think everyone is watching to see jordan's next move. what king abdullah will order his military to do.
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realistically, the only option on the table is stepped-up airstrikes knowing the jordans have very clear, they are not talking about ground troops the u.s. is not talking about ground troops. but in the coming hours, it is very fair to expect to see those stepped-up air strikes, given king abdullah's promise that jordan will enact some sort of program of retaliation, if you will for the killing of the pilot so what are we talking about? jordanian war planes traveling into syrian air space, most likely most likely conducting strikes over raqqa, the isis stronghold where so many of the hostages including the pilot are believed to have been killed. that would be the most direct options. if the jordanian war planes do fly, it will be u.s. air planes likely if a support role. nobody in the coalition flies alone. the u.s. will be able to provide
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overwatch, intelligence surveillance reconnaissance as atika has pointed out, combat search and rescue assets air assets are now in northern iraq. that may not be related to this. but they have the capability. much closer in case there is a problem. so everything is put in place. and what we do know is over the last 72 hours or so the coalition has been looking at what they call their air tasking order. this is the list of targets that they can go after. they apportion them out to various countries that are flying the missions. the jordanians have wanted to step up. and now we will watch very carefully in the coming hours to see exactly what happens. >> alisyn? >> barbara starr, thank you for the background. very helpful information, let's see what it means from the jordanian perspective. we have the spokesman for jordan's government. doctor thank you for joining us this morning. the airstrikes that jordan is
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expected to undertake and may be undertaking as we speak -- will they just in syria? or are you extending your missions into iraq? >> hello, chris. the plan actually is to go after targets in order to degrade them and defeat them. and most of the targets happen to be in east syria. having said that we are in coordination with our american friends, as well as other allies in the coalition, in order to make sure that we go after the targets of dash. and that we hit them and hit them hard. because we want to make sure that they will pay for the crime they did and the atrocity they did to our pilots. >> diash. you're referring to the acronym
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that you use for isis. king abdullah is a trained fighter pilot. there's a suggestion he may take part in these missions is that true? >> no actually it's not true. there has been some talks about this in social media. but since the morning, i've been asked and i said this is not true. our pilots are flying there, we are hitting targets of dash. but no his majesty is not going to be participating in these airstrikes. >> the need for targets is very great. you know you may want to strike at dash but where. your intelligence capabilities are very well known. that you have a rare ability in jordan to infiltrate terror groups are you going to start using those powers of intelligence and spy networks to start creating more targets for the coalition to bomb and
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strike? >> indeed after what happened with this wave of anger across the jordanian society and the arab and muslim world and the whole international community, our intelligence services as well as our military will be looking more intensely into finding new targets. hitting hard on daish strongholds, we used to do this but we will intensify this now after what they did we made it very clear right from the beginning. that our response will be strong and will be decisive. we will not let this crime of killing our pilots with the horrific way it was done. pass without punishment. these people will be punished. and they will hear from all of us. very soon. >> the jordanian people had been divided when it came to fighting
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daish and feelings about radicalization and feelings about whether jordan should be involved with the west. now the pilot being killed in the way he was killed seems to have changed everything. why and how different is the population now? >> i'm not sure i can use the word "divided." we have some difference of opinion regarding the timing of the air campaign regarding the priority or the way this war was conducted. but i think the mass majority of jordanians understand that we need to preempt the danger of terrorism and extremism. >> after our pilot was killed and the way he was burned alive, i think all jordanians feel very angry and they feel their country and their state must take decisive action to make
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those who did this crime pay for it. >> so the jordanian people are more united than ever against at least this common enemy. we're told that king abdullah met with the pilot's father what message was communicated? >> he met him twice before. but today it's jordanian tradition that we go to funeral houses and offer our condolences. so his majesty went there himself. and karak, the city that the pilot came from. and he was accompanied by prince faisal and prime minister and other officials to personally give his condolences, to the family and to tell the father of the pilot, that his son is the son of all jordanians and that the crime that was done against this pilot will be punished and that we are all united against that. and the father of the pilot
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actually has been reiterating the same message. he is angry. and he asked his majesty and government to take steps in order to make da'ish pay the price for what they did. >> you have the will do you have the equipment that you need? how important is the united states and the coalition to providing you what you need to do now what you so desperately want to do? >> this is a very important question chris, and his majesty just cut his visit to the united states and one of the important things. that's been discussed with officials and the administration is the need to further step up maybe the aid and the military equipment that jordan might need. we heard ponce pos tiff response from officials in the united states that they are willing to help jordan and to provide
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jordan with very necessary equipment needed. and this is appreciated, we hope it will be done soon. >> there's a feeling in the coalition, certainly in the united states that this fight against extremism is your region's fight. is an arab fight as well. and that there hasn't been enough ownership of this situation, and that maybe this will change things. do you believe the king can reach out to fellow leaders and get this to be more of a regional united front against the war within your own faith? >> >> another very important point. we have been very clear and his imagines tri was very courageous in saying publicly and repeatedly that this is our war. this is the muslim world war. and this is the arab's war. because da'ish is in the front of jordan and putting threats to saudi arabia. and to kuwait and other gulf
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countries, as well as iraq and syria of course. so it is logical for all of us to say and understand and accept that this is our war, especially that da'ish is committing this war on the name of islam. which is absolutely incorrect and not true. so i think this is maybe another opportunity for us to be more open about it. and to say furthermore that this is our war and we need to stand and fight terrorism, because it's done in our region. it's threatening the stability of our society, and our land. and most above all, it's done on behalf of islam. which we totally and categorically reject. >> dr. al moumani, the root causes of extremism are much easier for to you get at than the west. we're sorry for the loss of you have taken so far. thank you for being on "new
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day." >> thank you, chris. really interesting perspective to get. secretary of state john kerry announcing this morning that the u.s. going to give millions of dollars in humanitarian aid to ukraine. secretary kerry just finished a meeting with the country's president. our chief national correspondent jim sciutto is traveling with the secretary. joining us now live. to the tune of $16 million. >> that's right, michaela. we learned other news that's that the french president francois hoe francois hollande and german president angela merkel. you have all the western powers represented in kiev today. why are they coming here today? as a senior state department official told us on the flight in a grave escalation of the fighting on the ground. a dire security situation, particularly in the last several days hundreds of square miles taken by pro russian and russian forces keep in mind when you speak to ukrainian officials,
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they don't describe this as a pro russian separatist operation, they describe it as a russian operation. they estimate as many as 9,000 russian troops inside ukraine. not a number that western officials confirm. they do also say that russian involvement has increased substantially. the main announcement today is that $16.5 million in humanitarian aid. i can tell you i wouldn't be surprised that in private conversations, that secretary kerry is having today, that he's hearing more that they want more from ukrainian officials, particularly this talk of lethal weapons. defensive weapons to help the ukrainian army on the ground but that's still a subject of debate within the obama administration. no decision made. i'm told by state department officials that the focus now is simply on a cease-fire. to stop the bloodshed, which chris and michaela has truly accelerated in the last few days. there's war, it's happening in europe today. and all the major western powers are concerned about it.
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>> jim sciutto, thanks so much for the update. this just in to cnn, al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, confirming the death of a top-ranking senior cleric and three others in a drone strike on their vehicle last week. the cleric had appeared in many propaganda videos criticizing isis for its expansion into yemen. we'll bring you more details as soon as they become available. we know what was going on in the cockpit of the transasia plane that crashed into a river in taiwan killing 32 of 58 on board. it was a mayday call. it was made in the voice of the recording says mayday mayday engine flame-out. just seconds before the plane went down. 12 are still missing, 14 others did survive this disaster. remarkably. investigators are now examining the data that was downloaded from the plane's recovered black boxes to figure out what happened with the engine. investigators are on the site of tuesday's deadly metro north accident north of new york city. key focus, why and how a woman
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ended one her suv on the tracks in those moments before the crash. officials are also trying to figure out whether it was the gasoline from the suvor orsuv, or the electrified third rail that caused the fire that killed people on the train. regular service is set to resume this morning. the more we learn, the more we report on both of these crashes. we'll bring it to you ahead. the key request question -- were they preventible? we'll talk with a former head of the ntsb about what investigators are looking for and what they found. jeb bush takes his show on the road. and the first stop was not iowa or new hampshire, it was detroit. what does that say about his potential bid for the white house in 2016? john king will explain on "inside politics."
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this aaron hernandez murder trial is one to watch. from sisters on opposite sides of the case to the victim's mom being warned by the judge not to be amotional? and now possibly incrim nating security footage inside the ex-football star's home. susan candiotti takes us inside the courtroom as all of these events unfold. >> remembering a painful day. shaneah jenkins watching herself on security camera video visiting the home of then new england patriot tight end, aaron hernandez. jenkins is hugging hernandez'
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fiancee. older sister shayanna after learning boyfriend olddin lloyd has been shot dead. shaneah testifies hernandez is also in the house that day. >> did he seem very shaken up? >> he seemed stressed. >> nine days later, hernandez is arrested for lloyd's murder. the murder weapon is still missing. prosecutors show jurors home surveillance photos of hernandez' fiancee holding something in her hands. >> this item then she is holding, do you know what that is? >> the black trash bag. >> authorities suspect hernandez' fear yansee sit beeg hind him in court, uses the trash bag to hide the missing murder weapon inside a box, and throwing it away after getting a coded message from hernandez. his defense team questions
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jenkins, on how much time her boyfriend, lloyd, spent with hernandez, jenkins telling jurors it was mainly during visits with her older sister. a powerful moment coming when prosecutors ask odin lloyd's mother to identify a photo of her dead son at a hearing without the jury present. >> does that depict your son's body? >> yes. >> with hernandez watching intently ward said she knew many of her son's friends, but not hernandez. >> had you ever met him before? >> no. >> had he ever come to your home? >> no. >> but she clearly remembers seeing her son hours before he was shot to death. >> i just saw his beautiful pink gum smiling across the street at me. >> cnn. fall river, massachusetts. measles, you've heard a lot about what parents on both sides feel.
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jordan's king abdullah is vowing a relentless war against isis. jordan is planning increased airstrikes and could target isis for the first time outside of syria. in the meantime the united arab emirates is suspending its participation in coalition airstrikes. while the u.s. says the pentagon has moved additional military assets into northern iraq to fight isis. there's a grave acceleration of fighting in ukraine. the word from the u.s. state department after a closed-door meeting with the country's president and secretary of state, john kerry this morning.
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the u.s. pledges $16.4 million in humanitarian assistance. but much more is needed if ukraine is to hold off the russian-sponsored war machine. meantime french president francois hollande said both he and the german chancellor are working toward peace. and are working toward a proposal they hope will be acceptable to all parties in the conflict. a small deadly plane crash in texas sheared a television transmission tower in half. it was approaching the airport in lubbock when it crashed into the tower, knocking local station kcbd off the air and cutting power to the surrounding area. the pilot was killed in the crash and the tv station and studio was evacuated, but no one on the ground was hurt. check out this missouri police officer getting down with the good foot. yeah the unidentified officer got caught on dance cam, dancing, snapping his fingers, while he sings a little dity. the police department posted it on the facebook page where it's
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gotten a whole lot of attention. the police department says the officer was testing out his dash cam. that's the official word. >> it works. i like that move by the way. >> i got a dodgy knee. >> i like that he keeps it close to home. >> he doesn't get too wield. >> i like that he paces back and forth looking at the camera. that's a good move. >> it's very jeongohn king-esque. >> i was thinking of you yesterday with, the patriots parade and with what we dealt with with dr. carson on the show when he was talking about measles and who is to blame. >> i watched your dr. carson interview, i thought you were great and i thought his lesson to all the republican would-be presidential candidates was good too, vaccinations work why don't we stop that debate. thank you for complimenting my patriots and i believe if you use facial recognition software that was actually chris cuomo
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dancing in front of that police cruiser. jeb bush had a first big speech as a presidential candidate was to the detroit economic club. with me to share reporting and insight, nia malika henderson and josh bush. he said i want to address american income inequality. he said if you think conservatives don't care about urban america, you're wrong. >> i know some in the media think conservatives don't care about the cities. but they're wrong. we believe that every american in every community has the right to pursue happiness. they have the right to rise. >> the right to rise is his theme, reform conservatism. george w. bush ran on compassionate skoefrcompassion ate conservism. >> he laid out a lot of problems he did not provide a lot of solutions. >> he said those are to come. whether or not they will be much
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different than things we've heard in terms of addressing poverty. we'll have to see. one of the interesting things he's going to the city it's detroit, it's a city that obviously going through problems bankruptcy sort of rebounding. at this point it is a way to say listen we care about urban people. i.e. black and brown people. in terms of the whole idea of poverty, it might have been better to go to the suburbs, because that's where poverty is really growing at a clip. not seen really in the cities. but i think the backdrop here in saying we want to expand the party was really the message from this speech. >> he's trying to make the point he wants to be different. obviously look let's take him at his word. that he cares about the cities and we'll wait for the solutions and the proposals. look at the last two elections, one of the things he knows he has to deal with came up in the q&a. his name happens to be bush. our last two republican presidents were named bush his brother and his father and some people think enough move on. here's jeb bush's answer to
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that. >> well i know it's an interesting challenge for me. one that i have you know if i have any degree of self-awareness this would be the place where it might want to be applied. and so if i was to go beyond the consideration of running, i would have to deal with this and turn this fact into an opportunity. to share who i am. to connect on a human level with people. so people begin to -- offer ideas that are important to people. so that when they think of me they think i'm on their side. >> boil that down he would have to earn it. >> and it's really interesting when you listen to the speech the q&a and if you read the exclusive interview that our friend ron fournier put up in the "national journal." he tries to ride deep public unhappiness with wage growth and deep public unhappiness with the two political parties. he tries to stake out the turf he says i understand you're
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serve suffering, your wages aren't growing and you don't think the two parties are the solution. maybe i can ride the middle ground. i understand the problem and i'm not beholden to the parties. >> he thinks it's time to rip it up and do things new, saying things that are interesting. we'll see if he can put some meat on the bones. one thing he said to ron fournier in the "national journal" interview. 13,174 government-run school systems is not the appropriate model of governance for this incredibly group of kids who comprise the next generation of americans. he is on record supporting common core. if you're a grassroots republican and you think education decisions should be made by parents, then teachers then local school boards not washington then the governor then the mayor, you're going to say what's he talking about there, right? >> this is going to be a big issue this is i think why he's doing so poorly in iowa.
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this is why huckabee had to go to iowa and say listen i am not for common core any more. i was for it before i'm against it. this is a really big issue for him. where does he in what areas is he going to be able to connect with the base it's not going to be on immigration reform. it's no going to be on common core. is it going to be on foreign policy? will that have too many shades of bush if he's too hawkish. >> or can he be a big enough leader to say stop, think again. we have to think again in this economy. we'll see if he can be persuasive as a candidate. i've raised that point because a liberal group found this tape from 2013. jeb bush talking about the problems in detroit. he said one way to repop late detroit would be with immigrants. and the dreamers the children of undocumented adults who came across the border. jeb bush said you can't blame the children for being here illegally, he says they deserves
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citizenship. >> children have to pay the price for adults' decisions they make. how fair is that? so for people that have no country to go back to which are many of the dreamers it's ridiculous to think that there shouldn't be some accelerated path to citizenship. >> again this is what gets fascinating. can he change his party or win enough of his party to win the nomination when you're not only that we should think about this that maybe the children were young, they had nothing to do with it, somebody carried them across the border. he's not just saying it like that. he said it is ridiculous to think there shouldn't be some accelerated path to citizenship. >> this is going to be an ongoing dialogue. nia mentioned he has to connect with the base. but he's not going to do it via immigration. this is just the latest in a long series of statements he's made on immigration that put him at odds with the base of the party, particularly in iowa and south carolina. i love that this came from a democratically-leaning group as an attack when in fact it
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reflect as fairly big constituency inside the democratic party. >> maybe they're attacking him because they don't want him as a nominee. because they think he's a stronger candidate than some of the others. you write this morning, let's address this in closing, the lame stream media's fascination with rand paul might be coming to an end. rand paul stepped in on vaccines and had to clear it up. saying he heard of these mental disorders. he got rock 'em sock 'em robots on o'riley the other night. he and oel'reilly had a good little battle the other night. >> for someone who is seen as a presidential candidate, the interesting part of him at this point is becoming a bit of a liability. especially as you see somebody like marco rubio keeping his head down and emerging as a serious figure the kind of chamber of commerce republican
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that rand paul has also courted. but this has been his media strategy to be out there all the time and it's causing him some problems. >> he's been so accessible for so long. it's helped him a great deal. but maybe we've reached the tipping point. >> one of the big appeals of rand paul is on government surveillance surveillance. overreach overseas. as long as that's going to be the conversation going into 2016 he'll get a lot of attention from reporters, i don't think that the lame stream media is done with it. >> the iowa caucus is still a year away but the closer you get to actually presidential voting we treat him nor like a presidential candidate. the questions get tougher. hopefully we do our job a little better he's going to have to do his job a little better. we learn a lot from these candidates as we go through all these things and rand paul is in a little bit of a rut. but it's early. i've seen a lot of candidates including candidates who have went on to be president, go through rut, we'll see what happens. >> there you go. you're so right. we're going to be talking about what you all just touched on that's the measles comeback.
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. there are more than 100 cases of measles across the country. 99 cases alone in california. in his first in-depth interview as surgeon general, dr. vivek murthy addressed the growing outbreak with our chief medical correspondent, dr. sanjay gupta. >> we know the numbers now, the number of people who have the infection, the number of states that have been involved. how do you quantify how bad this is from a public health standpoint? i mean are we on the precipice of this potentially getting much much worse? given how contagious this is? >> well measles is highly contagious in fact if not the most contagious virus you know of. if your are exposed to measles and you're not vaccinated against it you have a 99% chance of getting it. the flip side is if you are
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vaccinated your chance of getting it is only about, much much lower. you get a 97% protection rate if you get both doses of the vaccine. so that's very good. but i think right now we are at a critical tipping point. where you know if we need to closely monitor the number of cases we have. we need to continue to do contact tracing. >> dr. sanjay gupta joins us now from atlanta. it's interesting, sanjay getting to see the two of you sit down together his first major tv interview. he is one, he is the youngest surgeon general. he is the first of indian descent and he's taking on this job while this measles outbreak and controversy is going on. did he address that but taking the job on right at this time? >> yeah he did. and remember he was nominated in november of 2013. wasn't confirmed until december of 2014. just recently he just started, this is obviously was ongoing. even as he was getting confirmed. so yes, he is saying he's going on listening tour around the
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country trying to understand what's happening around the states. he hadn't done much in the way of interviews. i asked him why now? he said he wants to travel around and understand what's happening out will first. >> if he's going on a listening tour he doesn't have to listen too closely, the sound is loud. people yelling from the rooftops about the vaccination debate. did he address the problem when people choose not to vaccinate? did he talk about that specifically? >> i give him credit, he's not being equivocal, not wavering he's strongly wording the fact if you drop below a certain vaccination rate in the country, you start putting the average person more at risk. babies for example, can't get vaccinated. people who have cancer undergoing chemotherapy can't get vaccinated. there's going to be a certain percentage of the country that's always at risk. what they count on is what is known as herd immunity having enough of a herd around them to
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protect them. until they can be vaccinated. until they recover, until the child gross old enough. if you don't have herd immunity you see what is known as sporadic cases of measles popping up and that's how something starts to become endemic again. right now we're about 91.9% vaccination in this country. if we drop below 90 that's when that could start to happen. >> talk about the herd the herd is not just here in our country. the herd extends, because we know our borders are open. you look around the rest of the world. did you guys talk about that? the immunization rates in other countries? >> yes. >> there's difference there. in fact some countries have better rates of immunization than we do here in the united states. >> michaela did you know russia has better immunization rates. china does. zimbabwe does. iran. the list goes on and on. those countries do better than the united states when it comes to vaccinating against measles at a year of age. i asked the surgeon general about that. let's listen to his answer. >> part of the challenge that we
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have had is in part we're a victim of our own success. because we were able to eradicate diseases like polio, because we were able it eliminate measles in the united states. many people have not seen these diseases. and they they become they become less of a threat. they become more theoretical. >> what he's basically saying is we're not slapped in the face with seeing these diseases on a regular basis. and all of these other countries, they see measles, they see mumps on a regular basis and they say, we don't want that. so that's why vaccination rates are much higher. we're not as acutely aware of the risk here. >> i want to read you wrote incredible and strongly worded op-ed for cnn.com. i want to read your words to you and for the rest of the viewers. you say that you are 100 times more likely to be struck by lightning than to have a serious allergic reaction to the vaccine that protects you against measles is not a matter of opinion. you say facts should matter and science should win. but after 13 years as a medical
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reporter i know it's not that simple. there's a lot of emotion in this debate. not often based on scientific fact. >> i think people get lured into the emotional part of the debate and it's easy to see why. i mean it's children and it's autism. you cannot think of two more emotionally evocative things anywhere than those two topics. but that doesn't change the science. you know and i think it's people are uncomfortable not knowing what causes autism. so we want to fill the void. wooer not comfortable with voids, we want to fill the void with anything. and that's where a lot of people point is to vaccines. you know you can understand that part of the sentiment. but i think that people who don't forcefully say, i get that but that doesn't change the science. people who are not saying that are not doing a service to because this is dangerous. people could die from not getting vaccinated. and this is totally preventible thing. there's so many problems in the world, we don't know how to prevent. we don't know how to address, we don't know how to tackle -- this
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one we can fix. >> dr. sanjay gupta if atlanta, thank you so much. go to cnn.com to read the article in full. chris? two deadly crashes, one by air, one by rail. the key to both is what caused them. and we have the latest on both investigations. hear what a former head of the ntsb has to say. there's confidence. then there's trusting your vehicle maintenance to ford service confidence. our expertise, technology, and high quality parts mean your peace of mind. now you can get the works, a multi-point inspection with a synthetic blend oil change tire rotation, brake inspection and more. $29.95 or less. the real question that needs to be asked is "what is it that we can do that is impactful?" what the cloud enables is computing to empower cancer researchers.
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critical developments in two deadly transportation accidents. one airplane one railroad. we begin with the crash of that trans asia plane in taiwan. we want to bring in deborah hersman. former ntsb chairman and president of the safety council. thank you for being on "new day." >> good morning. >> let's start with the airplane crash. there's some developments this morning that i would imagine will help investigators figure out what happened. there is a may day call that came in from the pilots. let me play you this clip. >> may day, may day, engine out. >> very short. but you hear him say may day, may day, engine flameout. what does that mean? >> so they're talking here about potentially the complete loss of
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an engine and they're having to compensate for that in the cockpit, but this is only a portion or a fragment of the conversation that's probably taking place. once they are able to read out that cockpit voice recorder they're actually going to have a lot more information and a full picture about what was being communicated inside the cockpit between the pilots not just outgoing to air traffic control. >> can a plane ever recover from an engine flameout? >> you know pilots are trained to deal with emergency situations including engine flameouts. one of the challenges that you have certainly in an environment where you're in and around an airport on takeoff, on landing is that you're low and that you're slow. you may not have the air speed and you may not have the altitude to make the recovery that you need to make but pilots are trained. and so we want to make sure we understand what happened
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mechanically here but also what the operators understood and what procedures and steps they took if they were effective or ineffective and understand why. >> so with this crash there happens to be as you know this stunning video of the plane going down. how will investigators dissect every frame of this video to get more clues? >> i will tell you that the advent of technology particularly video or image technology is incredibly helpful to investigators. we used it at the ntsb in accident after accident even things like using a security camera to identify frame by frame the collapse of the interstate bridge in minneapolis as it fell. that information can corroborate the physical evidence on scene and the other information that's gathered to really paint a picture and, again, it allows people to see what's happening and you can bring in other data to support the investigation. >> this plane was an atr 72.
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that's the model. that model was also involved in another trans asia crash. is there a problem with that model of plane? >> you know i think what's important is to understand what happened in each of these crashes involving this carrier with this aircraft. it's not unusual for a carrier to have multiple aircraft in their fleet of a certain type. in fact, that makes a lot of sense. and so that means you train your pilots on that type of aircraft. you maintain that type of aircraft and you actually get very good at it so it is important to understand what happened in each of those events and identify if there are any common threads. >> let's talk about the deadly railroad crash here in metro-north. metro-north is the big commuter system that takes 300,000 commuters in and out of new york city every day. and as you know there were six people killed this week when it hit a stalled suv on the track. what do you glean from the details you know thus far?
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>> you know it's still early in the investigation. i think everyone really needs to understand what happened how that driver ended up on the tracks. it's so important to stay clear of those tracks and to make sure that all of the devices are working, whether it's the great crossing arms, the traffic signals that help to cue the traffic up. but, again, each driver also has a responsibility to pay attention to what's going on. do not enter that area where the tracks are unless you know that you can clear it. that's really important. 2,000 vehicle to train crashes occur every year resulting in 250 if a 2589s. we -- fatalities. >> looking at that aftermath is so tragic. thank you for the information. >> thank you. alisyn the war against isis or daisch as they're referred to derisively. the u.s. is moving more assets into northern iraq.
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the jordanians want to increase the number of airstrikes they're carrying out. >> at the end of the day it's going to take a regional force beyond jordan. >> i don't want to see it being american ground forces carrying the heavy load again. >> it has to have moderate arab nations bringing this force to bear. >> may day may day, engine flameout. >> the final seconds of trans asia airways flight. >> flameout means the engine has lost its combustion. >> this toddler somehow survived. >> screaming, yelling. it was just total panic.
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>> smoke and flames poured out of a packed metro-north train. >> i was very lucky to be able to walk out of that. >> one was the person on the train tracks and what caused this accident. >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota and michaela pereira. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. good morning. welcome to your "new day." we have breaking news. first even here on cnn. we have learned jordan is carrying out airstrikes against isis right now in retaliation for the murder of their fighter pilot. >> jordan's king had promised relentless war against the terror group. is this the beginning of that new plan? let's get right to barbara starr. she is live at the pentagon for us. what do we know barbara? >> reporter: good morning, alisyn. at this hour the first round of jordanian airstrikes against isis in syria is now underway. this obviously very sensitive business in terms of exactly where the planes are flying, the
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targets they're striking. we can also tell you u.s. war planes as you would expect are flying alongside in support of the jordanians. the u.s. providing intelligence surveillance reconnaissance. on stand by combat search and rescue assets. aircraft and other airplanes from the united states in case a pilot were to go down. if they were to be shot down or have mechanical trouble and their plane goes down. everything in place and now underway. the jordanians are flying f-16s. that is their main airframe in their air force. this is what had been widely expected for the last several days as the jordanians made a number of public statements that they would be taking action. all of this had been worked over the last several days within the coalition to get the targets. now one of the big questions is what about isis? isis on the ground. they are -- you know they are
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far from blind to all of this. they know that jordan, they know that the coalition is coming after them so the question will be when these war planes go overhead what isis targets will they find? will isis have tried to have run away and hide? will isis stand and fight? this may now be the big unknown in the coming hours. where is isis and can the jordanians get to them. alisyn. >> so barbara, the news that you're breaking is the air administration have begun in syria in jordan. what about outside of syria in iraq? >> reporter: i think you'll see what we've seen for the last several months now. the coalition, including the united states, going after a number of targets in iraq and syria. the targets in iraq are sort of an ongoing part of the coalition air war strategy. they fly every day. they look for targets and they strike targets as they find them. the jordanians of course have
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been promising very specific retaliation for the murder of their pilot, but it all works into the same overall air strategy. planes flying overhead looking for targets being ready to strike them when and where they find them. alisyn. >> barbara starr, thanks so much for all of that breaking news. we'll check back with you. we want to bring in now cnn's atika shubert, she is live in amman, jordan. what's the latest there, atika? >> reporter: that's right. we actually saw four fighter jets fly overhead. what we understand from the minister of information is that these jets have just returned from a mission in syria. and they actually flew over the village of aye, which is where king abdullah was visiting with the kasseasbeh family. the king told him that those planes had just returned from a mission to hit raka. raka being of course the isis strong hold in syria. now we understand that the
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jordanian military will give more details shortly and possibly also expecting a statement from king abdullah himself. we'll keep you updated when those come in. all right. let's get more on this right now. we have mike rogers cnn national security commentator. former chair of the house foreign affairs committee. we have cnn military analyst and executive dean at the university of phoenix major general james spider marks. gentlemen, thank you very much. mike let plea come to you first. make a little bit more news here. you know king abdullah. you understand the capabilities of his military. we're talking about airstrikes but we know the need is about boots on the ground. may there be news there as well? >> well, again, i don't know exactly what their plan is and probably we shouldn't talk about it if we did, but i can guarantee you that if those strikes are going to be effective, they're going to have to have special capabilities folks on the ground in places
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around syria. they have a very capable intelligence service. the jordanian intelligence service has certainly focused a lot of resources in the isis problem in syria and you can bet your bottom dollar if those strikes will be effective, that there are folks guiding those aircraft to the right targets. >> right. that's all -- >> that is really important. >> that's the key. target acquisition. jordan had been withholding their intel assets namely their ability to infiltrate terror groups. the u.s. very light on that front. now that they're fully engaged, that will help no question about that. let's talk spider about why this is good. why we like this. why from the coalition standpoint this is a good move. that comes down to something you've been talking about from the beginning, which is general, that this has to be the region's war, not the u.s.'s war. how might this move by jordan change the game? >> yeah the moderate arabs have to step up. jordan is, as congressman
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indicated, a magnificent ally. very trusted. very deeply engrained in terms of how we do business how we do business very transparent. has been for decades. so with jordan's acknowledgment that this is totally egregious, totally beyond the pale, barbar barbarism that we haven't seen before and is involved is a very good step. what we hope chris, is this will encourage others to pick up the pace. certainly the saudis are involved bahrain is involved. we have to push to get their further involvement. this is what america does. look we lead and we hope that others will follow f. they don't, we'll continue to lead. we talk about having a coalition, and it needs to have this level of participation. ultimately this will only collapse. isis will only collapse if moderate arabs are involved in creating that collapse and saying enough. >> right. >> the u.s. can lead but they have to pick it up.
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>> the fundamental problem is fighting a fight that's going on in somebody else's backyard. the military part on the ground obviously fundamental but it's deeper than that as you have taught us in the past. when you look at jordan as an example, great ally hamas, isis other terror groups have firm roots in jordanian society. the population there divided. 6.5 million people but 2,000 foreign fighters estimated. do you think that this turn will bleed into that and jordan will start addressing the tendencies of its own? >> well you know, the king has been trying to moderate different factions in jordan for some time and he's done a pretty good job of trying to find that balance. he tows have problems in jordan and many believe that there was a time a few years ago where the kingdom -- his kingdom was certainly in question. i don't think that's the case anymore. he's plowed through that. he's opened up certain segments of the jordanian society in order to try to be more inclusive. the problem is in that region
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you will always find this brand of extremism that will seek to cause harm, and if you recall, isis one of their first targets when they started this operation was jordan. they were talking about going into lebanon and jordan. so that's where they have to concern themselves and if you recall the two executions they did of al qaeda suicide bomber attempts in jordan were related to baghdadi who was the forerunner to isis in jordan at a wedding. this has deep roots for them. i think the king has taken this very personal, and he will not -- he will be relentless in this. candidly can help bring the other arab nations together in a way that i think the administration was having some difficulty in doing. >> that would be the key. all right. now one step sideways general, and feel free to just dismiss what i'm about to say out of hand and tell me why but this is happening, this sea change in jordan's perspective, because they are pissed off about how
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their pilot was killed. it was done with disrespect. it was led on. it was done in a way that was done to them culturally. is that the right formation here? eye for an eye. is that not playing into isis's mentality about how we rule the world? >> chris, it is. the issue at this point is that we must get beyond the fact that king abdullah might be pissed off and that the jordanian people as a whole are outraged by what they saw and how isis treated their pilot, but they had to also assume that there wasn't going to be a positive outcome no matter how it happened. so at this point what jordan is doing is absolutely the correct step. needs to galvanize others but it will be very objective. jordan will be a part of the arab tasking order. it will be a coordinated effort on the part of central command which really is executing all the operations that are taking place, both in syria and northern iraq.
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so it now is very much -- it's a military operation with that level of precision and it has to be sustained. it can't be a revenge attack. it can't be vitriolic. we can't allow emotions exclusively to guide these actions. if emotions brought them in that's fine chris, but at this point it needs to be such a relentless aggressive attack all completely objectively controlled so that you can achieve results on the ground and it needs to be sustained. >> i hear you, general. i mean, mike, i guess, look maybe it's semantics. to me it doesn't feel like it is. your motivation matters because what is the goal? the means is the military. the means is the diplomacy and changing the lives of these people who are vulnerable to extremism because of their lot in life but it matters that they're saying they did this to us now we're going to do it to them. that's eye for an eye mentality. that's rough justice. isn't the bigger problem in that part of the world that you do have a big division between the
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haves and the have notes ins in a way that allows that to be appetizing? >> that's been the million dollar question in the debate. how do you change the economics on the ground to change the fact that people can be hopeful and have some social mobility. clearly that's the case. but one caution here. the king has been interested in attacking this problem for years. he's been to the united states several times over the last few years saying this is going to be a problem. it's going to be a bigger problem. he'd come back and say now it's a big problem, going to get worse. >> right. you know from the intel side -- >> the reason this is important it allows the politics at home. this allows the politics at home in jordan in the uae, in saudi arabia. it allows them to galvanize their forces to go in. that's why i think this is so important. >> you know that over the years it's been such a desperation to use the intel assets that they had and that cooperation wasn't
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there. let me give a final word to you, general, and then we'll move on with this. >> chris, thanks. the issue that jordan's been dealing with primarily up until the last couple of days has been an incredible refugee problem, which is the spillover from syria and the other neighbors. that's been job number one. king abdullah has tried to get his arms around that and be a good humanitarian in terms of trying to provide that part of the solution to the problem. now he has a motivation to get involved kinetically in this fight. >> maybe he can use the refugee as entree to reaching out to his allies saying help me with this part of it help me with all of it. >> true. >> general, thank you so much for helping us understand what it means on the ground. mike invaluable of your knowledge of the king and how things work in jordan. so fundamentally important in moving forward. thank you, gentlemen. mich. chris, we are learning more about what was going on in the cockpit of the trans asia airline plane that crashed into the river in taiwan killing 32 of the 58 people on board. a may day call was made. the voice on the recording
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saying mayday mayday engine flameout seconds before that plane went down. 12 people remain missing, 14 others survived the disaster. investigators are now examining the data that was downloaded from the plane's recovered black boxes. secretary of state john kerry holding a news conference at this hour in kiev saying the u.s. will pledge $15.4 million in humanitarian aid in the ukraine. they are not seeking a conflict with russia. he's hoping russia will take advantage of a diplomatic solution. breaking overnight. listen to this 80 million of us just got our data stolen. anthem insurance, they were hacked. the personal information, and i mean like everything birthdays, social security numbers, even income levels of their subscribers now in the hands of hackers. anthem says it will offer free credit monitoring and identity protection services to those affected. >> just terrible. feels like that's happening more often.
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let's turn to mary sciavo and the former inspector general of the department of transportation and david soucie. nice to have both of you with us on "new day." mary i want to start with you. we know from the mayday call that the pilot says mayday mayday engine flameout. what does that tell you? >> that means that the engine was losing power. it was not producing thrust. there can be a lot of reasons for it but basically you have an engine failure and it looks like it was an engine failure on the left engine. >> mary is it possible for a pilot to ever recover from an engine flameout? >> oh, yes, absolutely on a twin engine plane of course on a multi-engine plane you have the other engines which are by regulation and by design capable of carrying that plane on and capable of flying however, the most dangerous time in flight to lose an engine is on takeoff. that's what happened here. when you look at the radar
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tracings it appears they lost the engine power just after takeoff and then of course they had to pass over a very crowded congested area and they just weren't able to gain altitude or increase power. most dangerous time. >> david, back in 2010 there was a similar plane crash in australia and the australian transportation safety board put together an animation of what went wrong. can you help us understand what we're seeing in this animation? >> absolutely. what this animation was created from the black boxes after the accident was a training -- training flight in which the trainer pulled back one of the engines to try to simulate an engine out. well what happened was the engine failed when that happened so did the auto feather system allowing the propellers -- which allow the propellers to go into a streamline position. this didn't happen so the drag on the left side was so severe that it caused the left wing to fail or the left wing to stall in which the aircraft rolled over to the left almost
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identical to what we see -- what we've seen in these dramatic videos. >> david, it does seem almost identical. when i first saw that animation i thought that it was an animation of what happened this week with trans asia. so what do we learn from that animation? >> well what we learn there is that it is possible that the -- well as mary pointed out, if the aircraft engine goes into an auto feather position it's perfectly capable of continuing flight. there shouldn't have been any problem with that continuing flight making it go around and come back around and land. so obviously something beyond that happened. the engine failure might have been the primary cause, but this is a secondary cause something that happens afterwards. an accident is never caused by one thing. it's always a culmination of several things that cause accidents. >> mary this same model airplane that was involved in this trans asia crash, atr-72 was involved in another crash back in july. is there something possibly wrong with this model?
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>> well possibly wrong with the model and possibly wrong with the engine. the one in july less than a year ago, they had engine problems there as well and there are reports out of taipei that on this plane when it was delivered back in april, that both engines were replaced at or upon delivery which is highly, highly unusual. and there was undocumented it isn't confirmed report that the pilot on this flight had complained about this engine on a prior flight. so a lot of things for the investigators to look at but fortunately a lot of clues. so these engines and this aircraft model are suspect and the government has ordered an inspection of both. >> mary i want to stick with you for one second as we transition to what investigators are learning about this metro-north railroad crash. back in 2008 congress approved a gps system for trains that were designed to improve safety. can you explain how that would have changed what happened this week and why that hasn't been installed yet in railroads.
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>> sure. what congress envisioned was something called positive train control. they said back in 2008 that all of the rail companies in america had to propose to the department of transportation a plan to implement this. their plans were due in in 2010. they were supposed to have them in place by december 2015. they're not going to meet it because some of the equipment necessary wasn't even invented but what it is is a series of computer monitors and they're the computer monitors on the tracks at the crossings and in the train and it tells the train if there's an obstruction on the track, if the train is going too fast if the rales are out of alignment and so basically it's kind of like a gps system for a train. it's supposed to dramatically decrease accidents on the rail lines of the united states of america. just isn't in place yet because things have to be invented and, of course it's an issue of money. railroads spend about $100 billion a year on safety and
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maintenance. that's not enough believe it or not. >> it sounds like that might have changed what happened this week in this deadly train crash had it been installed. david soucie mary sciavo thanks for all of your expertise. great to talk to you. >> thank you. here's a question for you. why would a judge tell the mother of a murder victim not to cry in court? that's what happened in the aaron hernandez trial. is the judge out of line? what's going on here. we're going to take a look. are you leaving hundreds of dollars on the table each month? you may be if you're not refinancing your mortgage. christine romans will explain.
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all right. here we go with the five things to know for your "new day." number one, breaking news for you. jordan launching airstrikes against isis after it vowed a relentless war after the terrorist's brutal killing of their pilot. u.s. war planes are flying alongside jordan providing support. mayday mayday engine flameout. those are the words before a plane crashed into a river in taiwan killing 32.
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investigators are studying data from the plane's black boxes. federal investigators are on site of tuesday's deadly metro-north crash north of new york city. they are focusing on why an suv was on the tracks before the crash and whether it was gas from that vehicle or the third rail that fueled the massive fire. secretary of state john kerry stating the world cannot ignore the violence russia is prompting in eastern ukraine. speaking in kiev he's now demanding russia remove troops and heavy weaponry and agree to a diplomatic resolution to that crisis. america's second largest insurer hit by a massive hack attack. the personal information of as many as 80 million current and former anthem customers may have been compromised. we do update the five things. visit new daycnn.com with the latest version. chris. the aaron hernandez murder trial, we haven't seen one start like this in a while. you've got sisters on both sides of the case. you have incriminating security footage from inside the
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defendant's home. that's how much is going on. susan candiotti takes us inside the circus. >> reporter: remembering a painful day. shaneah jenkins watches herself on security camera video visiting the home of then new england patriot tight end aaron hernandez. jenkins is hugging hernandez's fiance older sister shayanna after learning boyfriend odin lloyd has just been shot dead less than a mile away from the hernandez home. shaneah testifies hernandez is also in the house that day. >> that he seemed very shaken up? >> he seemed stressed. >> reporter: nine days later hernandez is arrested for lloyd's murder. the murder weapon is still missing. prosecutors show jurors home surveillance photos of hernandez's fiance holding something in her hands.
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>> this item that she is holding, do you know what that is? >> the black trash bag. >> reporter: authorities suspect hernandez's fiance sitting behind him in court uses the trash bag to hide the missing murder weapon inside a box and throwing it away after getting a coded message from hernandez. his defense team questions jenkins on how much time her boyfriend, lloyd, spent with hernandez. jenkins telling jurors it was mainly during visits with her older sister. a powerful moment coming when prosecutors ask odin lloyd's mother to identify a photo of her dead son at a hearing without the jury present. >> does that depict your son's body? >> yes. >> reporter: with hernandez watching intently ward said she knew many of her son's friends but not hernandez. >> had you ever met him before? >> no. >> had he ever come to your
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home? >> no. >> reporter: but she clearly remembers her son seeing hours before he was shot to death. >> i just saw his beautiful pink gums smiling coming across the street towards me. >> reporter: susan candiotti, cnn, fall river, massachusetts. it's time for cnn your money. chief business correspondent christine romans here. she's going to save us all some money. you have a fool proof way. >> this is my forecast for this year. the number one thing you can do to save some money this year is to refinance your mortgage. if you have a home leanoan, it's time to refinance. 30 year 3.66%. i was so surprised this week to find out that about 35% of people with a mortgage don't even know what their interest rate is. don't even know what their interest rate is. it has been falling, falling, falling and 1/3 of you out there don't know what the rate is. here's why it is so important to lower that rate if you can. a 5% interest rate on a $400,000
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mortgage is a $2147 month payment. you lower that to today's rates it's $1800 a month. that's savings of more than 4 grand this year. real money. home prices have been slowly rising so fewer of you are underwater. fewer of you are upside down. more of you are actually able to get those lower mortgage rates. famously earlier this year ben bernanke said he was trying to refinance his mortgage and he couldn't. the banks are getting a little better on that this year. if you are a first-time home buyer, this is going to be a good year for you to try to enter into the market. things are getting a little better. fha has changed some of its principle requirements and some of its insurance requirements. there are some new things out there that make this the year for the home buyer and the refinancer. >> great. there you go. >> do it. >> great advice. >> thanks so much. >> you're welcome. so the president of the united states is reaching out to muslim americans following the recent terror attacks by isis and other extremist groups. whom did he pick to meet with
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and what did he have to say? we've got two peeps who were at the meeting. "new day" first for you today. check out who morgan spurlock brought to work today. he and some of his friends of the less hoppy nature join us. >> what kind of dog is that? at ally bank no branches equals great rates. it's a fact. kind of like shopping hungry equals overshopping.
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welcome back to your "new day." amid recent acts of terror committed by isis and other islamic extremist groups the white house has reached out to muslim americans. president obama met with community leaders to discuss issues ranging from discrimination to the importance of countering terror groups who commit heinous acts in the name of islam. joining us two of the people who were at that very meeting. dena obidalya is here with us. a political comedian. and we have the executive director of muslim advocates. good morning to you. deno i'll ask you first. significant meeting. first of its kind. sounds like it was a long time in coming. how did it come about? were you surprised you were invited? >> i was surprised i was invited. i was elated. i think she can tell you much more what led up to it. she spearheaded the effort with muslim advocates.
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don't get me wrong, there are muslim americans who have an ongoing relationship with americans. they're called in but with leaders around the country sitting around a table, it was exciting. i was ecstatic. i was trying to think of a way to steal the white house silverware. >> we know there are some rules. you cannot quote the president directly but can you tell us what subjects you touched on? >> yeah absolutely. let me first say, michaela that this meeting could not have come at a better time. you know at a time in our country when unfortunately there are some public officials from the statehouses to congress questioning the loyalty of a group of americans simply because they're muslim i really commend the president for taking the time to sit down and hear directly from american muslims about our hopes and dreams for our country. and something i shared with the president was the most common concern i hear from muslim
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mothers and fathers across this country is their concern that their children will grow up being ashamed to be muslim. and it was probably encapsulated in a valentine's day card i actually shared with the president. it was written by two young sisters, sanya and sabrina, 8 and 10 years old in california and they basically shared their hopes and dreams and, frankly, their fears. sabrina in particular, the oldest sister talked about how she dreams of one day becoming an engineer or a basketball player and yet she's also concerned that people are going to be mean to her simply because she's muslim. she's asking the president to do something. >> dean it is not an unusual immigrant experience in this country to be judged by your worst stereotypes. you're dealing with it on both sides of your family now. part of you is muslim the other part is christian italian. >> yes. >> they had their own path
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through this country. >> sure. >> that's why this being so secretive, you can't say this you can't say that. in a way does that feed the phobia? >> i think these are the ground rules that my sense the white house has with meetings for other organizations as well. after the meeting they said anyone who wants to say what they said they can say it. it was a meeting to start the conversation with the president frankly. we want to build relationships. i think that you know each of us expressed what was our concerns and people out there think that we don't hate these muslim terrorists more than they do they don't get it because these people are killing people in the name of our faith and we suffer the backlash. that was a big part of it. i took a political avenue about what's going on. you have republicans from bobby jindal to a state representative saying muslims are cancer. we need the democrats to give us more than silence. we need them to stand up for us the same way the republican official made a racist statement. we want fairfield.
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that was my point. each of us had our own points. >> that brings up an interesting thing that we have struggled with here at cnn on "new day," the language and labels and titles. did you bring that up? was that addressed in the conversation about how to label the -- whether you call them extremists whether you call them terrorists whether you call it extremist islamist? was that discussed, the challenge? >> so muslim advocates, we've encouraged the white house to not play into the frame that's being promoted by isis. isis wants this to be a religious war, to be a war against islam. it feeds their recruitment if they do so so we've actually supported the white house. and it's not just this administration it's actually even the bush administration that has not used the term islamic terrorism. jihad jihadi. >> what term are you comfortable with? >> violence.
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isis al qaeda, the enemy is isis. the enemy is al qaeda, that's what we have to call it. >> they're terrorists that's it. how can you fight an enemy we can't define? i can define them. they're called al qaeda and isis. let's defeat them. let's go save lives by defeating the enemy. we know what they are and where they're about. >> not that easy. what you want out of a meeting like this you want to extend into our cultural recognition. what you're dealing with most profoundly in the united states is a fear of the unknown with islam and when you hide that these folks call themselves islamic, islamists, it seems like you're trying to hide. that's the problem the administration is having. >> i want to say quickly, they're muslims. calling them muslim terrorists is accurate. islam means it's connected to the faith. we hear people saying that's the simplist almost idiotic
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approach. they're dealing with power. they kill 12 13 a day. >> dean frahana, we hope we can have further discussions with you both. this was a great first step. so glad you could share your experience with us. >> thanks for having us. all right. welcome to the jungle. you're going to find out -- >> you have to say it with more conviction. >> i didn't know there was actually a lizard in the studio until right now. you're going to find out -- >> read my lips alligator. >> alligator. you're right. there's an alligator in the studio. that should have been the lead. morgan spurlock is in the studio. >> his nickname is crocodile. >> who's computer? >> uh-oh. sir, we're going to need you on the runway later. don't let a severe cold hold you back. get theraflu... ...with the power of three medicines to take on your worst pain and fever, cough and nasal congestion. it breaks you free from your toughest cold and flu symptoms. theraflu. serious power. how much money do you have in your pocket right now? i have $40
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♪ jungle, welcome to the jungle ♪ a day at the zoo is usually a fun family outing but for morgan spurlock it's an immerse sieve learning experience. he goes behind the scenes in tonight's new episode of "inside man." >> i'll let you operate the door if you'd like. >> there he is. >> whoa. he's pursing his lips. >> that is called a threat facement. >> okay. >> they stand very rigid, very
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tall and then purse their lips and really very tight. >> how about a banana? and then there's that. >> never been so happy to have a fence next to me in my life. >> i don't think that gorilla liked you, morgan. morgan spurlock joins us this morning. you brought along some souvenirs. >> i brought some friends along with me. i brought nature nick and some animals. this is an owl monkey today. >> why did you want to go behind the scenes of a zoo? >> i think there's a lot of debate about should we be keeping animals in captivity. should we try to figure out a way to let them be living in nature. what zoos are doing the job that is actually conservationist and based in education and who isn't? that's what the whole show looks at. >> you admitted the fact that you were like every child knew this was the one where you get to see animals. >> most of us will never travel to africa we'll never go on a safari.
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zoos provide an incredible part for myself and kids. are zoos living up to the expectations. >> so we have to watch the show. on the zoometer where are you at? >> the detroit zoo is doing the best they can to take care of the animals. there are animals having a hard time. this one zoo realized they needed to get rid of their elephants. >> that happens cross a lot of places. >> some animals don't do well in zoo settings. >> this guy looks like he's ready to pounce. >> he's looking at the mash mallos. >> nature nick if you put a marshmallow on alisyn? >> he would. she may not have eyes. >> here to protect you. >> i appreciate t. what have you done to tick off that gorilla? >> i was just there. that's the thing. gorillas are incredibly territorial. once there's another male presence around they will -- they will posture.
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they'll purse their lips. they'll do everything they can to scare you off. >> did you respect that a silver back gorilla saw you as a threat? >> yeah, that made me feel very good. >> macho. >> you talk in the piece also about the importance of the health and welfare of the animals, and there are some zoos that have gone really far in terms of working on figuring out the psychology of what it is like for a captive animal. >> that's right. that's what was happening in the zoo we were in. detroit they studied the animals to see how were they fairing, how were they benefitting from the environment. they try to make their health their lifestyle as much as it can be to the nature where they came from. the gorillas are a perfect example. they have heart problems and health problems they would not normally get. >> there's anxiety. >> they're stressed and they have anxiety. how do we make it as natural. if you raise an animal in captivity that animal can never go back to the wild. >> have they found answers? >> yeah. every day they're finding answers. sometimes it is these animals
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shouldn't be at our zoo. there's other places where they say we need to change. >> can i see the animals? >> yeah we've got some good ones. >> there's a scarf that i thought was empty. >> no. >> there's something under there. >> leopard scarf. does that have anything to do with it. >> a very small leopard. very wee leopard. >> is that how you travel? >> this is the only fun nature nick if you put the animal on one of the women. >> okay. how are his teeth? >> they're big. he has about 70 razor sharp teeth. he's an alligator. >> okay. >> the incredible thing about animals people will try to keep them for pets. in new york city -- >> that's a mistake because? >> this will grow to be about ten feet long so right now this is great, it's fine. you can have this in your house. >> you keep it there. >> eight feet long it becomes a real issue. what happens is the zoos have to then come in and rescue these animals and take them away. >> the steady cam guy he looked pretty easy.
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>> carefully. >> there you go. >> pass him to chris. >> will he bite chris. >> no i've seen this. it turned out well. >> right there. >> there you go. >> that's pretty easy. >> really? >> little too fast and loose with the crocodile. you have one more animal as well? >> yeah one more. >> put away the one with the teeth. put away the one with the teeth. >> that's all right. >> you've got him? >> we don't know if they combine, chris? >> he's in the hand of a very dominant male right now. keep these two separate. >> no chris, not here. wallabe doesn't like this. >> going to use whatever this is in my hand. >> this is a miniature kangaroo or wallabe. he's full grown. he's about 30 pounds. this is hugh jackman, hugh the kangaroo. >> he's not hugh jackman. >> is he as cute and adorable and cuddly as he looks or is he
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misleading? >> a lot of people try to keep these guys as pets. he does box. they can be litter boxed trained. they're not that much fun. >> what's he do when he sees this guy? >> not too good. >> what's the life expectancy? >> same as a dog. 12 13 years. >> how about the nails? >> beautiful, one of the things is when you travel down under you want to not buy stuffed animals when you're down there because what happens is they turn these actual wallabes into stuffed animals. >> oh, my gosh. >> which is terrible. >> oh, that's actually kind of horrifying. >> we can't way to see the show tonight. make sure to check out morgan at the zoo on "inside man" at 9:00 p.m. eastern only on cnn. >> he has one eye open. >> nature nick -- >> he's testing. >> thank you very much. >> this is going to end terribly. >> giving you the snake eye. >> we're going to take a short break. chris has the good stuff if he puts down the alligator. we'll have that in a second. >> nice update. his room is ready, ya know what salesman alan ames becomes? i think the numbers
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robertson, the man in detroit. that's where morgan was at one of the zoos. he walked 21 miles a day because his car had broken down. he had no other way to deal. well now he can afford 17 honda civics twofer rar ris. there's a wallabe. the fundraising drive started by a local college kid now has $300,000. >> wow. >> we're showing you the page live because it goes up so often. now the man who used to have no car, he's got a whole team around him. take a look. >> an attorney from a very large detroit-based law firm an adviser from a very large investment firm that has an incredible record. >> because what happens with that lottery effect. you don't know what to do with the money. they have a whole team around him. james says he's going to figure out husband plans.is plans.
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he has a perfect attendance record. thank you for making this better. let's get you in the "newsroom" with carol costello. no wallabes. >> i saw that little wallabe in the makeup room and we bonded. have a great day. >> thanks carol. >> his hair does look good. >> thanks guys. brought a smile to my face. have a great day. "newsroom" starts now. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. good morning, i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me. right now the war on isis escalates to a new level. jordan unleashes its first wave of new airstrikes on
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