of their annual swimsuit issue. i don't think she's plus size. she looks absolutely gorgeous. thank you so much for joining me today. i'm carol costello. another hour of "newsroom" straight ahead. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com what they call earth shattering revenge, jordan pounding isis from the air, retribution for the guessly murder of a jordanian pilot. >> the crisis in ukraine dire. secretary of state john kerry is on the ground in kiev. we're waiting to hear from him life. we'll bring his comments to you as soon as it happens. new clues behind what caused this deadly train crash. why didn't an suv driver move her car from the track right before the horrific impact?

great to see you, i'm john berman. >> i'm kate bolduan. following a lot of breaking news at this hour. the first round of jordanian air strikes against isis have begun with u.s. warplanes flying alongside in support. the target? isis positions inside syria. >> this is revenge. no other weigh to put it. revenge for the barbaric murder of jordanian pilot mu'ath al kasasbeh, burned alive in a cage by isis militants. a jordanian spokesman says this is the muslim's war now. he spoke to cnn a short time ago. you'll hear him using the term daesh which is a director term for isis. >> this is our war. this is the muslim world war because daesh is an affront to jordan in putting threats to saudi arabia and kuwait and other gulf countries as well as iraq and syria, of course.

so it is logical for all of us to say and understand and accept that this is our war, especially that daesh is committing this war in the name of islam which is absolutely incorrect and not true. >> the king of jordan has vowed a relentless war against isis. we want to bring in pentagon correspondent barbara starr, also with us fareed zakaria, host of "fareed zakaria gps." barbara, what is being hit by whom and how hard? >> it's important to start with this point. king abdullah of jar dan a full wartime commander in the arab islamic world. he's responsible to his people and making it very clear that these air vix are jordan's position now to fight isis. it's our understanding, the first wave of air strikes concluded several hours ago, perhaps as many as two dozen, just under two dozen jordanian

f-16s flying against targets. the jordanians are already saying it was in eastern syria mainly with u.s. air support. the u.s. flying alongside providing the traditional military support, intelligence surveillance, reconnaissance any kind of support function that the jordanians would need. that is typically how this works. the question now will be in the coming hours what success are these air strikes? the jordanians want to inflict significant damage on isis but have they been able to find those isis targets? isis has been trying to melt away. they're not blind, not stupid. they know the jordanians are coming after them. so all accounts indicate they've been essentially trying to disperse not show profile, not show anything to give the jordanians a target to hit. military intelligence has been looking closely the last couple days trying to locate the

targets to hit. we will see in the coming hours how successful they are. >> barbara, stick with us. fareed barbara is laying out exactly what the air strikes included. the king calls it a relentless war now against isis. what does this mean in the broader campaign against isis? >> the most important shift here is actually not military but political. the jordanians have been doing air strikes, the u.s. has been doing air strikes. there has been pressure from the air. this still remains this problem in syria which is firing a bomb from the air, who takes over from the ground? you don't have a ground force. the assad army would be the beneficiary in some sense. politically this is very important, it means the arab world is more united more strongly opposed. it is not just the government it's the countries doing this. the arab governments have always played this double game where they want to be out there fighting but they don't want to be fighting so hard because the public is often not entirely with them.

here we now see the jordanian public clearly behind them, perhaps other arab publics. all major imams and scholars have denounced this. i think that's the most important part. i hope the jordanian government and the king of jordan who is traditionally said to be a direct descendant of the prophet muhammad presses for the idea this is highly unislamic, this is barbaric. if that happens, the political dynamic shifts which is more important than the military dynamic. >> the government says it's a muslim war now. the question is this week? this month or to the very end. >> remember the uae jumped in early on. and then they pulled out saying they didn't want to do this because their pilots might be in danger of getting captured. guess what? it's a war folks. >> and jordan's pilot was captured and they're second more in. >> fareed zakaria, barbara

starr, thank you so much. meanwhile there's another war to talk about right now, a grave escalation in the fighting that is how a state department official described the war. it really is a war now, being fought in eastern ukraine. u.s. secretary of state john kerry has been meeting with ukrainian leaders. the key question will the u.s. send new lethal aid, new weapons to help the ukrainian military in this conflict? >> we're not seeking a conflict with russia no one is, not president poroshenko not the united states not the european community. that's not what this is about. we have very hopeful that russia will take advantage of our broad-based uniform acceptance of the notion that there is a

diplomatic solution that is staring everybody in the face. that's what we want. >> what exactly are they going to get this time around? secretary kerry is not the only major figure in the air. french president francois hollande and chancellor angela merkel are head tld now with a new peace initiative they hope ukraine and russia can agree upon. let's get to cnn's national security correspondent jim sciutto. we're waiting for the press conference to happen. what more are you hearing about kind of the state of play in this dire situation? >> reporter: let me tell you, the descriptiontion of the situation on the ground in eastern ukraine are truly alarming grave escalation dire security situation. that's the way u.s. officials are describing it. the ukrainian president described barbaric attacks on civilians there. this has been going on for a

number of months but escalated in the last several days driven by an enormous influx of russian military power, heavy weapons, tanks coming across the border as well as -- john kerry referred to this in his statement with the ukrainian president a short time ago, russian troops commanding what he called so-called separatists. they describe this as a russian operation and one that is accelerating. that is why you're seeing what is really a remarkable diplomatic showing to have the secretary of state inof the u.s. here, later joined by the french president and german chancellor who will then go on to russia. because they view this not just as a ukrainian problem, but also as a threat to might toe. this is a war in europe it eeg not some far-flung place. it's in europe. the front lines are moving westward in eastern ukraine out of what is normally described as

eastern ukraine. >> as kate was saying before on the way now to meet with the president of president of ukraine and travel to moscow as well. a lot of developments there. jim sciutto, thank you so much. we expect to hear shortly from the secretary of state. we'll bring that to you. after the break we'll speak to former u.s. ambassador of ukraine stephen peifer to get his take. warning signals blaring, a train barreling toward her. why didn't a driver of an suv get off the tracks in time? investigators looking for answers this morning in that very deadly new york train crash. a strong accusation from an al qaeda terrorist. he claims members of the saudi royal family helped pay for the 9/11 attacks. you know what? some american officials seem to agree with him. that's coming up. and it's not a ticket you're upgrading it's your entire operations, from domestic to international...

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state john kerry today, we cannot close our eyes to tanks coming across the border from russia. the secretary is in kiev talking about how to resolve the crisis in ukraine with ukraine's president and the prime minister. listen here. >> we don't view this as a zero-sum game. we have never viewed it that way. this is not meant to be nor should it be a divide between east and west. this is about rule of law. it's about the norms by which nation states behave. >> so what will the u.s. do about it? what should the u.s. do about it? let's talk to a man who know it is region well.

former ambassador to ukraine stephen peifer. thanks so much for being with us. you, sir, support providing a new round of lethal aid to the ukrainian government to the ukrainian military. what will that do? well eight of us put out a report that argued for substantial military assistance. the bulk of that would be non-lethal assistance. we did say what they would need would be non-portable anti armor weapons. the idea is to not beat the russian army but to impose such costs on the russian army if the russians escalate the conflict that moscow decides that the military option is not there or does not have a cheap military option. as for the sanctions, this is pressure on the russians to turn to a negotiated peaceful settlement. >> this is a real question today right now on the ground. you heard from the secretary. you heard from the administration there, calling this a dire situation that's only getting worse. you, when putting out this

report i also read in the piece you put in "the washington post" that you think the calendar is not on the side of ukraine in this situation. you say time is urgent. why is that? >> well there were a group of us -- five of us in ukraine two weeks ago and we had an opportunity to meet with officials in kiev and also traveled about 45 kilometers from the line of contact between the separatists and the ukrainians. what we heard there was concern what happens in this spring? right now it's cold hard to conduct military operations. you have no tree cover. there is concern, does something spike up in april or may? >> you, in your defense to providing lethal antitank weapons. you say there's no way to beat the russians militarily which indicates there will have to be some kind of negotiation here both sides will have to come to the table. what is the end game you're willing to accept? how much autonomy for the

pro-russian separatists in that part of ukraine would you be willing to accept? >> that's going to be a decision that ukraine has to make. if you look over the last six or seven months ukrainian president poroshenko says he's prepared to decentral lies power, give authority to regional and municipal authorities in eastern ukraine, prepared to grant status to the russian language prepared to have discussion to am merely rate. at one point he was talking about taking nato off the table. that seems to have changed in that last point in part because opinion of the ukraine public has shifted given that russia has seized crime yeah and has been conducting this war for ten months in eastern ukraine. >> mr. ambassador one final question i've been seeing the report that came out. a lot of folks reading it because there are a lot of big names, including yours, putting forth a proposal for more money as well as aid and arms going to

ukraine. but the pushback is more weapons is going to make the security situation worse, more volatile more unstable. how are american weapons going to make it better there and not worse? >> we've heard this argument and we thought about this does this lead to escalation. but if you look at what the russians have done since seizing crimea look at their actions since april of last year where they supported the separatists, provided heavy arms and the russian army entered eastern ukraine in august the russians have escalated. they've done that because they don't see many costs to this exercise. the hope here is that by evening out the playing field a bit, we can give the ukrainians the ability to defend their homeland and make further aggression further escalation by the russians and the separatists that they back more difficult and ultimately persuade moscow you have to move off the military solution to what everybody in the west what the president says what chancellor

merkel says it has to be a negotiated diplomatic solution. we have to get the russians there. >> ambassador steven pfeiffer, we'll see what the outcome is. ambassador thank you so much. >> the russian response is key on this as well. ahead for us rescue workers searching for 11 people still missing today after this plane's jaw dropping plunge into a taiwanese river. investigators digging through the charred wreckage of the deadliest train crash this the history of a new york commuter rail line looking for clues as to why a driver of an suv did not get off the tracks. for just a hundred bucks a month with any smartphone, including the samsung galaxy note 4 for zero down. add more family members for just $40 bucks a pop. think the other guys have a family plan like this? think again! finally, it's full speed 4g lte data that really is unlimited.

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rescue crews searching for 11 people still missing after this incredible crash caught on camera in taiwan. at least 32 people killed in that horrific accident. just a few minutes ago we learned the analysis of the flight data recorders is now complete. investigators now just beginning to figure out what went wrong there. there was a mayday call to air traffic control seconds before the crash that said engine flameout. >> you're hearing the incredible call, the taxi cab driver made to his office after the plane's wing clipped the car. you can hear the disbelief really when the taxi driver explained what happened when the operator asks again and again, is he talking about a model airplane.

>> amazingly the driver and his passenger onld suffered minor injuries. 14 people survived the crash. we'll look into the mayday call and other clues they're starting to draw. happening now, ntsb investigators looking over evidence from the scene of tuesday's deadly train collision. six people were killed after a train collided with an suv just north of new york city. the train and the car were removed last night from the tracks. service has resumed ton rail line following what is being called the deadliest crash in the history of this rail line. officials identified all six victims including a driver of an suv. a friend of hers spoke about the loss. >> she loved her daughters, she was a wonderful mother and she

was a dear friend. i, i do not know what happened. >> she and many others begin their process of grieving the investigation is very much under way this morning. for that let's bring in ntsb board member robert sum waltz. you've been at the site of the crash with the investigative team. where do things stand this morning. >> kate good morning. we're making good progress with the investigation. we're documents, we've already successfully documented the wreckage. we've downloaded the event recorders from the train. we've secured the event recorders from the signal gates. we plan to interview the engineer this afternoon. so we are really making good progress. >> a couple key questions here that people say are crucial to this investigation. number one, why did this suv driver why was she unable to get her vehicle off the tracks in time? and the second question is why was this so deadly?

trains sadly, hit cars hit vehicles but they're not usually this catastrophic the results. any clues why this might be? any clues about train speed, about the distance with which the engineer saw the vehicle and was trying to brake? >> we'll be doing a sight distance test to see the distance if you were in a car, in an suv on the tracks and look down the tracks, how much time would you have before you could see a train was coming and we'll do the reverse of that to see if you're an engineer of a train looking down the racks, how long would it take you to see an suv. we'll be doing that. today i think we'll have the speed analysis of the event recorder of the train and i think we'll be talking to witnesses to understand why was that car on those tracks. >> robert sumwalt, ntsb board member thank you very much. we'll be getting back to you as the investigation continues. so me many questions. the investigation just getting

under way. we'll leave it quickly. we'll move back overseas as secretary john kerry and the ukrainian prime minister are speaking right now. listen. >> before that lunch with the prime minister before that a meeting with president poroshenko. in doing this also to be able to coordinate our diplomacy with chancellor merkel and president hollande whose presence here today is really a further testament both to the importance of this moment but also to the very strong support, the united support ukraine enjoys throughout europe and together with the united states and many other countries. i was last in kiev about 11 months ago, and in the time since, kiev has been tested. the people of ukraine have been tested over and over again just

days after i was here russia seized crimea, and we all know what followed. just days after i was here russia seized crimea, and we all know what followed.. just days after i was here russia seized crimea, and we all know what followed. what often gets lost in the headlines is the fact that crew yan has survived all the tests that have been put in front of it. it has endured, and the ukrainian people have evidenced enormous resolve to be able to live in a strong democratic state. in fact, this country has experienced some really remarkable democratic successes. even in the face of these incredible challenges and we've seen from the brave demonstrations that took place to two rounds of free and fair elections -- i might add conducted with great effort by

opponents of democracy to prevent them from taking place -- those two rounds have taken place and a strong government respecting the sovereignty of the state has emerged. importantly, the parliament has passed a solid budget and it has laid the groundwork for and begun to implement very important reforms as part of a larger reform plan for the country. no one thinks that the hard work is over. it's not over. in some ways some of the hard work is only beginning. but as i told the prime minister just a few minutes ago, the united states is going to continue to support ukraine as it pursues more democratic and more sovereign clarity of independence as it pursues its future. we are committing to help to

ensure that ukraine has the economic stability in order to implement the reforms that the people are demanding and that the government has promised. we're working with the government working with the imf, with the world bank. we're working with our allies. we're working in many different ways to try to guarantee the economic future as well as the civic society, democratic future of ukraine. we are moving forward as we announced just the other day, a loan guarantee of $1 billion in order to support ukraine's economic reform program and assist the government to meet its near-term spending needs, and we have told the government and we've announced publicly that we are prepared to pursue another $1 billion loan guarantee this year as we see the reforms stay on track.

we also know that the cost will be well more than what i've just articulated. and we understand the importance of all those who have been advocates of a free and dem kra kratic ukraine and all those who understand the importance of the effort being expended by the people of ukraine. it makes it all the more important that we are there for the long term and for the future. today i was very pleased to hear in all of my meetings that the government remains very committed to the path of reform and the reform process, though difficult, is part of the economic future of ukraine. that is in fact ukraine's best weapon in the end in terms of this fight for sovereignty and independence and democracy. the more the reforms take hold the more the reforms take place, the more there will be

investment from the outside, the more opportunity there will be to deal with the economic crisis and the more the people of ukraine will believe that they are getting exactly what they fought for which is important. the prime minister the president, the foreign minister each highlighted the efforts to me that are already under way in order to root out corruption to reform the judicial and the energy sector to fix ukraine's financial system and to improve the business climate. now, obviously we are focused first and foremost on stopping the violence that has torn through eastern ukraine. since last april more than 5,350 people have been killed thousands of residential buildings have been completely destroyed. the shelling by the separatist ss

is indiscriminate hitting hospitals, schools and public areas where civilians wait in line for a bus for transportation for food and for supplies. hundreds of thousands of people have been forced to flee leaving everything behind that's if they're even able to be able to get out. families are huddled in basements and train stations without food without heat, without electricity, not knowing whether they will be able or when they might be able to leave. is this is the reality that far too many people are facing here in this conflict. as a result of that as the prime minister mentioned a moment ago, the united states is committing another several million dollars, $16.5 million immediately in order to help those ukrainians most affected

by the conflict in the dunn bass. like other humanitarian aid we've provided since the conflict began, these funds are going to support the u.n. high commissioner for refugees u.n. office of coordination for humanitarian affairs and other organizations, and it is money that will be specifically directed to go to the east to the very place that russia's aid to the separatists and the separatist's efforts are having the most negative impact. so we're not overlooking even that area of conflict. this announcement brings the total u.s. assistance to ukraine to more than $355 million oovps since the crisis began for the purpose of addressing these kinds of emergency humanitarian needs. that's outside of other assistance that we have provided directly to the government in

various other forms and outside of the loan guarantees i just mentioned. now, we are deeply concerned that the violence in ukraine is accelerating. that's why i'm here. that's why president hollande and chancellor merkel are here. that's why this weekend we will meet again in wrun neek the munich conference with vice president biden, with chancellor merkel and others in order to continue the diplomacy that is taking place here today. far from meeting the minsk commitments, russia and the separatists are seizing more territory, terrorizing more citizens and refusing to participate in serious negotiations. let there be no doubt about who is blocking the prospect of peace here. they continue to refuse ukraine with control of its own border. it's own border.

this is an international border recognized as the sovereign property and line of demarcation of a nation state in the mod drn world. yet russia with impunity seemingly has acted to cross that border at will with weapons, with personnel, with the instruments of death that they are bringing into ukraine. russia and the separatists are seizing more territory and continuing to refuse control to ukraine of its rights as a sovereign nation. russian weapons and fighters and i might add, this is not an accusation without foundation. we live in a modern world of great technology. everybody understands the ability to see things from high altitudes, whether it's in space

or lower, and the fact is we have been tracing and we have seen exactly what they're bringing over when and how, and there's no question about tanks flowing, rocket systems being transported, convoys of goods carrying both people weapons and other instruments of battle. so unfortunately a large propaganda system in their media continues to spew what can only be characterized as lies about what is happening on the ground and who is responsible for violence. now, we know one thing for sure. president putin can make the choices that could end this war together with president poroshenko's choices to move towards peace as he has evidenced he is prepared to do

and wants to do and has done so in good faith in his effort to sign on to the minsk agreements. ment as i have said repeatedly there have been a number of off-ramps for russia to take over the course of the past months but unfortunately they've been left in the rear view mirror. those off-ramps are narrowing and there's still an opportunity to be able to seize them. there is a way back to better ties with europe with the west with the united states. there is a way to get back to a cooperative set of measures that we can take together. but it begins with a cease-fire and with allowing russia -- allowing ukraine to control its own international border and

respect that border and begin to move the heavy machinery, the heavy weapons of war out to the opposite side of that border. it also begins with the release of political prisoners including nadia sov chen co-and others. as soon as these choices are made this situation can improve. the only way that it ends is through diplomacy. we have no illusions that there is a, quote, military solution and contrary to some comments that i've read in the last days coming from some of the folks who have made the choices to fuel this conflict we are not choosing a military outcome. we are choosing a peaceful solution through diplomacy. but you cannot have a one-sided peace. it takes the parties to come

together in an effort to try to achieve it. people thought that had happened with the minsk agreement, that that was a significant step with a significant road forward to be able to achieve a different outcome. no one, not ukraine, not the united states not our european partners want this conflict with rush to continue another day, not another day. all we're asking is though that russia and the separatists support and honor the commitments that they made that they implement a real cease-fire including by pulling back those heavy weapons from the cease-fire line at the border that they remove foreign troops and equipment from ukraine, that hostages are released and ultimately that they respect the international border and ukrainian sovereignty. i can guarantee you the united

states of america help be a guarantor of that kind of a peace if it can be achieved. for its part -- >> you've been listening to u.s. secretary of state john kerry who is in kiev meeting with the leaders of ukraine talking about the grave situation in the eastern part of that country, the ukrainian military battling pro-russian separatists. in some cases, the secretary says russian s are seizing more territory, terrorizeing more civilians. he says there's no ambiguity about it whatever propaganda that coming out to the contrary is simply lies. >> simply lies. the big question all the reporters are waiting for, being able to ask questions about what the united states is going to be able to do in terms of do more. are they going to be able to provide defensive lethal aid as debated within the administration we are hearing, are they going to go through with that? that's part of the conversation going forward. we'll keep you updated as this

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breaking news. the war on isis is intensifying with jordan now unleashing a new wave of air strikes on the terror group. u.s. warplanes, part of this action. they were flying alongside the jordanian fighter jets insupport of this mission. >> this is all payback for the

murder of jordanian pie lol mu'ath al cass way. retired lieutenant colonel james reese is joining us. colonel, it's great to see you. maybe we call it the first of the new wave. i want to get your quick take on what do you make of this? barbara starr reported maybe two dozen air strikes going in syria from jordan. what do you make of it? >> good morning. what you know s we know this there are several targets that centcom and the coalition go into the air tasking order. in those targets they take the number of assets available and put them on the targets. king abdullah said we want to get more involved, we're got more assets we're ready to launch right now. that's what they did. they took those additional

jordanian assets put them against the ato for known targets they have. what the u.s. does they fly cap support, tanker support, if they need gas while they're in the air and all the other intelligence and isr we know we bring to braer to allow the jordanians to take the lead on those lead targets. >> colonel, from an operational standpoint what does this change? >> john it doesn't really change anything. we get to service additional targets because there's more assets brought to bear by centcom. what i believe and what i hope to see is this influx of the jordanian piece starts to bring the other arab countries into bear and they start wanting to take the lead on this and we can back away a little bit as i call being the consultant for this war against the extremists. >> colonel u to this point -- i guess there are probably two sides of this argument but this point, by and large, it doesn't seem air strikes alone are,

quote, unquote, defeating isis as president obama, as other leaders have laid out is the intended goal. a lot of the conversation has been focused on will arab nations put boots on the ground. what do you think the next step has to be if more and more air strikes aren't necessarily doing it? >> well we have to break this down in two different aspects. you, i'll call it the iraq theater now. now what you have is the syrian theatre of focus. unfortunately we can't bring both of these together. the iraqis the american special operations forces advising and assisting them and even the iranian shia militia are starting to work the boots on the ground that piece. in syria, again, things we've been talking about for months there's no policy what we're going to do. do i think the jordanians saudis kuwaitis will get

involved? yes, i do. but only if the u.s. puts together a policy on how we do this diplomatically. >> lieutenant colonel james reese, thanks for being with us. a few minutes left for us. did members of the saudi royal family give money to al qaeda? the man known as the 20th hijacker in the 9/11 attacks says that happened. are his words credible? oh yea, that's coming down let's get some rocks, man.

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pay and finance the 9/11 terror attacks. the so-called 20th hijacker is pointing fingers now. >> he claims members of the saudi royal family gave al qaeda money. including a former ambassador to the united states. before you say these are accusations coming from a mentally unstable terrorist those claims seem to corroborate with some of what u.s. lay makers have said. they want part of the 9/11 commission report released. 28 pages. why? he says these 28 pages primarily relate to who financed 9/11 and they point a very strong finger at saudi arabia as being the principal finance year. >> you are also asking that president obama de classify

these secret pages part four, if you will of the report. why do you want these pages declassified? what do you think are in these pages? >> i've actually read the pages, so i know exactly what's in them. the reason we want them disclosed is number one, transparency is a good way to operate. this is 14 years after the fact of the attacks on 9/11. we think that the families deserve it. a number of them are in lawsuit against certain individuals they feel may be complicit in those attacks. i think having those 28 pages disclosed to the public will inform our foreign policy going forward. >> sir, i don't want you to divulge information that's classified but you read these pages, does it corroborate that members on f the saudi royal

family funded al qaeda terrorists? >> it is classified i am bound. let me just say this. i have read some of the testimony, the excerpts that have been made public. also listened to senator graham's statement which were very forceful. the contents of the 28 pages do not contradict anything that those two people have said. >> think -- without you having to say it, congressman, that's confirmation that you're corroborating what he's said these allegations. >> what do you think -- why won't they declassify? >> remember, remember, this was the bush white house that -- they did not just redact these pages. they excised 28 pages from the report that was public.

the obama administration has also abided by that -- that decision to keep these classified. >> i'm sorry to jump in. we're running out of time -- we've got a lot of live events going on today. i want to get a key question in to you about this. some of your colleagues on the hill saying why does it matter now, what is the value on this information now, the war on terror has shifted significantly since 2002. the players in the region have shifted significantly. what's the value? >> the value is that in those 28 pages, there are people named, there are transactions identified. i think it's important for people to know this. what are they afraid of? put this information out there. let us assess it and -- but i think it will inform our foreign policy going forward. i also think the truth is important and these families that have suffered because of the attacks on 9/11 we owe them

a full accounting. that's what this is all about. >> thank you so 34u67 for your time. we'll definitely be following up on this. lot of news to get to. we'll be right back.

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the master mind behind an online marketplace that allowed users to boy and sell everything from drugs to hacking tutorials, have been found guilty. >> he could face up to life in prison for his involvement. he will be sentenced in may. >> cnn money is here with us. you've got more on the background of the story and you also spoke with those parents. >> i did. this trial is really unprecedented. it puts on trial the dark web and the future of how we browse the internet. his parents do say he's

innocent. >> is it possible there was a whole other side to ross that you guys just didn't know? >> i think in 30 years, there would have been a glimmer among either us, his family all his friends, and everyone who knew him. >> i feel like i know ross as well as a father can know a son. we were very close. we were buddies. >> they say they're going to appeal this. they also say they don't believe there was enough evidence presented. they say there was evidence suppressed. their son is facing life in prison. these are very serious charges. >> life in prison. >> max is life in prison. they said for anyone who has a criminal enterprise online look at this. >> no one knows the dark web like you do. thanks so much for being with us. >> thank you so much. all right. that's all for us today. thank you so much for joining

us. "legal view" starts right now. hello everyone. i'm ashleigh banfield and welcome to "legal view." if air strikes can ever be seen as personal today's attacks by jordan against isis positions in syria were extremely personal. fighter jets like these helped carry out what jordan's government had promised since tuesday. quote, earth shaking retaliation for the burning alive of a captured jordanian pilot. today, king abdullah not only paid his respects to the dead pilot's father but he went further. he ordered his war planes to overfly the pilot's hometown right after