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my career-long effort to be worthy of the trust of those who place their trust in us." we'll have more coming up at 7:00. we are so grateful that you're starting your morning with us. >> we've got a lot more ahead on the next hour of "new day." it starts right now. more violence in ukraine and the hopes for peace don't show a lot of promising signs of taking shape here. we're talking to state department spokeswoman jen psaki as world leaders wrap up a conference, a security conference, in immune munich. president obama under fire. was the president drawing comparisons between islamic terrorists and the crusades? were thinhis comments out of li? a rear-end crash, one person dead. now could reality tv star bruce jenner face time behind bars? your "new day" starts now. this is cnn breaking news. >> good morning and welcome. i'm christi paul.
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>> i'm victor blackwell. 7:00 here on the east coast. >> we want to begin with breaking news in ukraine where deadly shelling is still going on. and really rocking the city of donetsk this hour. >> according to pro-russian rebels here, eight civilians were killed this weekend in fighting. and ukrainian forces report losing 12 of their own soldiers while eliminating, in their words, 70 insurgents across the conflict zone. >> you're looking at new video. and despite failed efforts to broker a peace deal, we have just learned the leaders of france, germany, russia and ukraine have reportedly all agreed now to meet in belarus on wednesday. >> cnn senior international correspondent nick paton walsh joins us live in donetsk where that deadly shelling continues. nick, it's pretty difficult to forge a peace deal when each side is counting the day. >> reporter: well, certainly. and 8 to 17 wounded now.
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there have been over 200 killed so far this month on both sides of the line, say the united nations. but let's break into a little bit more of that discussion about meeting in minsk, belarus, on wednesday. it is still days away. you hear behind me that continued shelling being picked up on my microphones. we don't know exactly who will be there. the french government is saying it's a tri lateral group which includes the president there along with the monitors. although there's continued work being done tomorrow in berlin and a conference call today between key leaders to try and push this forward. but the question you really have to ask is what is going to be on the table in any such meeting? are we going to see territorial concessions potentially being pushed upon ukraine? kiev's been very clear it doesn't want to see a loss of its territorial integrity. but frankly where i'm standing here, the separatists
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self-declared the people's republic feels like russia and has a pretty tight border system now in place for the rest of ukrai ukraine. realistically, some sort of concession may end up being made perhaps to usher in a cease-fire. that's the last thing ukrainians are going to want to entertain. that leaves the question are we seeing a rein attempt the ceasee from last year which really didn't get off the ground. a messy potential few days ahead. before we even start really sitting down to talk peace again on wednesday. victor? >> nick, we can hear the shelling behind you. there was another one. and often those sirens, often in conflicts like this when there are humanitarian cease-fires for a brief period, a truce of just
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a few hours, are the people there even being afforded that opportunity to get out of areas in which they're trapped? >> reporter: well, we've seen periodic moments, particularly one town to the northeast of where i'm standing where yes, indeed, there was a brief pause in the fighting to allow people out. that happened periodically as well because the shelling wasn't constant on the main exit road. here in donetsk, the violence here has been escalating for months, frankly. this shelling behind me is more intense than i've personally witnessed since coming here. but people can potentially get out if they have a pass from ukrainian authorities. we've seen long queues at the exit areas here. some feel trapped. some feel they can't afford to leave. some don't want to leave their homes. but we have ourselves this morning seen what shelling did to one family's home. the mother there injured. the children narrowly escaping from shrapnel that littered their room. a very violent situation here for civilians caught between the
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shelling. and it is pretty relentless. victor? >> nick paton walsh reporting the very latest for us from donetsk. nick, thank you. secretary of state john kerry is weighing in on the crisis in ukraine as well. he spoke just a short time ago in munich where he's attending a security conference there. and he reiterated there's no military solution to the ukraine conflict. and he went on to say that the u.s. and europe remain united. >> we are united. we are working closely together. we all agree that this challenge will not end through military force. we are united in our diplomacy. but the longer that it takes, the more the off-ramps are avoided, the more we will be forced to raise the costs on russia and its proxies. this much i can assure you, no matter what the united states, france, germany and our allies and partners, no matter what, we
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will stand together in support of ukraine in a defense of the common understanding that international borders must not, cannot be changed by force in europe or anywhere else. >> joining me now for more, colonel james reese, a cnn global affairs analyst and former u.s. delta force commander, and michael, the spokesman for the osce special monitoring mission in ukraine. colonel reese, i want to start with you. and first i want to put to you something that the german defense minister said at this conference. and she asked two questions, and i'm just going to give them to you to answer. the questions are, are we sure that we would be improving the situation for the people in ukraine by delivering weapons? are we really sure that ukraine can win against the russian military machine? what do you think? >> victor, good morning. i think the answer is no and no. we're not sure. one of the problems we need to do diplomatically right now is
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the bottom line is this. the russians have come in. they have taken this large swath of land. and if we think we're going to push them out right now with lethal force, it's not happening. we need to diplomatically be in there talking with the russians. what we want to do right now is hold this line is what we need to do, where it is. we need to hold it. we need to make sure there's not a humanitarian disaster going on within the ukraine. and this needs to be a political aspect. the russians right now have the upper hand militarily. >> michael, i wonder, colonel reese just brought up this humanitarian concern. secretary of state john kerry this week said that $16.4 million from the u.s. is going there. short of the defensive lethal assistance that many are discussing, are the people of ukraine getting the support they need to deal with the humanitarian effort? >> good afternoon from kiev. well, the humanitarian predicament is dire, there's no doubt about it. the numbers really speak for themselves. our colleagues from the united
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nations have been doing a splendid job putting together their newest numbers. and they are getting bad, obviously. more than 5,000 dead. and the number of wounded has very quickly jumped from a little over 10,000 to well over 12,000. and now the number of displaced is getting very, very big. in ukraine alone, almost a million people have been displaced. now, don't forget, this displacement has been happening for quite some time, from the time of crimea to the growth of the conflict in the east. and what's been happening, victor, is that those people that left earlier have put a real strain on the very limited facilities and the very limited resources of nongovernment organizations taking care of by these. so this is a big problem when unhcr and the others are addressing. but we don't see unfortunately an immediate end to that outflow of people from these conflict zones. and indeed, i can tell you from what our monitors are telling us, victor, they're leaving with very little of their own
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belongings and also very little winter clothing. so they're in a tough predicament. >> michael, is there any overlap here? we know that the u.s. and hollande and angela merkel and members of the eu, they are in lo lockstep saying the sovereignty of the ukraine must be respected. but we know that vladimir putin would like to annex, would like control, would like some type of economy for the donetsk region. are they overlapping anywhere? >> well, the best way i can answer that, because, you know, don't forget, we are the special monitoring mission in ukraine. we're very operational. we don't get involved in the stratosphere of kind of politics. our chief monitor has been very clear. the ambassador saying the clearest way to peace in ukraine is that hostilities cease immediately and those minsk documents that were signed way back in september are adhered to and also that, you know, he's a strong supporter of president poroshenko's peace plan.
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so the most important thing, of course, that could happen right now is a return to the dialogue table, and that would be the clearest way out of here. >> well, we know the minsk agreement last year was violated in a couple days, maybe hours by some measures. they're going back on wednesday. we'll see what happens this time around. james reese and michael, thank you so much. >> thanks, victor. still to come, he faces a firestorm of criticism. now brian williams taking a break from "nbc nightly news." is this the right move to make? also, it's a horrific accident on the streets of malibu. bruce jenner involved in a fatal crash. now police are digging deeper into what he was doing right before that accident. we have a live report coming up for you. the average person will probably eat something or drink something that is acidic on a daily basis. those acids made over time wear the enamel. a lot of patients will not realize what's happening to the enamel. once it's gone,
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13 minutes after the hour now. "nbc nightly news" anchor brian williams announced he is temporarily stepping aside.
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he is currently under investigation by nbc. you know this scandal broke wednesday when williams apologized for repeatedly lying about a personal experience from 2003. some would say it broke sooner than that with a report in "stars & stripes." he claims he was aboard a helicopter hit by rocket-propelled grenade when he was on a different helicopter. in a new statement to colleagues, he writes in part, "i've decided to take myself off of my daily broadcast for the next several days, and lester holt has kindly agreed to sit in for me to allow us to adequately deal with this issue. upon my return, i will continue my career-long effort to be worthy of the trust of those who place their trust in us." let's bring in my colleague and media correspondent brian stelter. brian, i want to start with you because when we spoke yesterday, we asked would he step aside? would he step down? there was a disagreement here if he would do that. but i was following you on
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twitter yesterday in the afternoon. >> yeah. >> and it seems to have come together pretty quickly. did it come together quickly? >> it did. this decision was made by brian williams later in the day after we spoke on saturday. nbc executives say this was entirely his decision. but obviously a lot of people think he was at least encouraged to go ahead and do this by the executives at nbc news. they have not said anything publicly to support him. and that's one of the reasons why, victor, people in the industry are talking about whether he's ever goinging to back to the chair. it's an extraordinary thing to say because he's the nation's top-rated news anchor. but since this has done serious damage to his credibility, anything's really possible at this point. >> joey, what do you think? was it a good decision to step aside? >> absolutely. and by the way, taking a break doesn't mean trying to escape or making a break for it. i mean, here's a guy who's been in business 30 years. he's got 9 million viewers. he's a very, very trusted brand. yesterday i talked about nbc being an acronym for --
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>> not being canceled. >> -- not being canceled. today i would change that to now being counseled because the top brass at nbc clearly have said, listen, before you go back on air, we've got to air some laundry and see if there's a pattern here. >> what you told us yesterday is that all silence is not golden. has he said enough? >> no, he's not. and you know, the greatest brands are transparent brands, authentic brands. brands that don't step out but step forward and step up. and tell you a story. you know, human beings are meaning-seeking creatures. we love stories. those poles will change on his behalf if he tells his breaking story which is the truth. >> brian, what's this investigation look like inside nbc? >> it's a fact-checking mission, basically, inside nbc to figure out if what brian williams has said in the past matches up with other people's accounts. as you mentioned "sta "stars & stripes," it's kwoelted soldiers contradicting what
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williams has said. nbc wants to make sure it's done that research on their own. i'm going to interview a soldier that's been interviewed as part of this fact-checking process. they want to make sure they know what's actually happened here. i agree, brian williams will have to say more about this. the question is how and when. a lot of people, i think, do want to give him a second chance if they believe he's being truthful. >> brian, there's this poll -- actually a survey commissioned by "variety" in which they polled 1,000 people. and 80% of them think that brian williams should lose his job. now, we don't know how many of those people are abc viewers or cbs viewers. >> sure. >> or loyal nbc viewers. but 80% is a pretty high number. >> yeah, this is a competitive business. and this is a loyal business. viewers are loyal, right? they like to stick with the channels they choose. and it's a competitive business. there's a lot of rivalries, a lot of back-biting. it's a tight-knit business but a very competitive business. obviously there are some
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detractors of williams out there who might be trying to encourage this story to become bigger. i've got to say, my twitter feed, my replies, are the opposite. i'm finding 80% of people are telling me give williams a chance. don't be too hard on him. let's figure out what really happened here. i do think there's a wide variety of reactions to this. the bottom line, though, is in this business, what we have to go on is trust. what we have to go on is credibility. if that's eroded and viewers don't watch to watch williams as a result, well, that's the ball game. >> and finally, joey, to you, every day that he's off, i wonder if the message of brian williams not returning means that they found something else and that further erodes the trust. does it not create this artificial plot? >> yeah, the clock is clicking and what williams needs to do is get back on the air, air his laundry, tell people not so much how or when but why. people want to know why. if you have a why, it creates a story. and stories beat polls every single time.
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>> all right. joey reiman, thank you so much. brian stelter, thank you as well. and of course, brian, we know you'll have more on "reliable sources" at 11:00 a.m. eastern here on cnn. we look forward to that. >> thanks. >> christi? still ahead, the northeast, i know that you thought you were getting a break. i'm sorry to say that's probably not going to happen because we know another winter blast is coming your way. sara ganim is following all of it for us in boston. >> reporter: good morning, christi. inches of new snow falling overnight in boston. what the mayor is saying about what this could do to the budget. coming up. et, i have a professional secret: amopé and its premium foot care line. the new amopé pedi perfect foot file gives you soft beautiful feet effortlessly. its microlumina rotating head buffs away hard skin even on those hard-to-reach spots. it's amazing. you can see it and feel it. my new must-have
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second verse, same as the first. although we're probably on the fourth or fifth verse with this storm now. there's more snow coming. another storm adding to the mounting snow already in the region there in boston. >> yeah, you see winter storm warnings already issued for parts of new york, connecticut, rhode island, boston. beantown, in particular, bafaci up to two feet of snow. and all of that piled on top of the record already set for the snowiest seven-day period in history there with more than 40 inches of it. >> sara ganim is covering the story for us in boston. sara? >> reporter: a winter-weary northeast is bracing for yet another round of snow. this coming after a series of back-to-back-to-back storms that have already unleashed record amounts of snow in the region. what's it been like the last few weeks having back-to-back snowstorms? what's it been like for
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business? >> it's been really slow. there have been days where we've sat around with literally nothing to do, and all we'll do is bleach the counters. >> reporter: and it's not just wearing down residents. city and state agencies across the northeast are close to busting their budgets in an effort to keep up. in boston, mother nature has dumped more than 54 inches already on the ground. not a record-breaking year, but more than average, and enough to strain resources. >> if we continue to get the snow we're going to get, we're going to shatter our budget for snow. our budget for snow is roughly $18 million. we're not over the top yet with the $18 million. we still have money underneath the cap, but we're heading towards that. >> reporter: city officials across the state are also saying they're approaching their snow removal budget for the year. in worcester, records are already broken. 77 inches have fallen, and it's still february. and in new hampshire, officials say their salt supplies are dwindling. some areas have seen 48 inches of snow in the last few weeks.
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suppliers are having a hard time keeping up with those demands. >> we've got about a $1.2 million budget. we spent somewhere between $800,000 to $900,000. we spent some money over the past couple weeks with the storms that we've had. >> reporter: and even more snow is still on the way. a frustrating prospect for residents who are having a hard time getting around. >> i don't know how much money the city's lost at this point from all this snow, but if we don't get rid of it and allow people to function normally and allow me and my coworkers to, like, go to work normally, allow customers to come in normally, then businesses can't function. >> reporter: victor and christi, take a look at the snow piles in the street, in this neighborhood in beacon hill in boston. they're getting bigger and bigger with each snowstorm. take a look at this one. for example, this is not even just a snow pile. this is a car buried in here that has been buried since the initial blizzard.
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the snow keeps piling up and up in this neighborhood. it makes it very hard to get around as a pedestrian. even as driving a vehicle, even when the streets are plowed, the streets get very narrow with all of the snow. and it's not just in boston. i've seen this in other cities across the northeast as we've been covering these back-to-back snowstorms. and this isn't just an inconvenience for people who are trying to get around the city. this is also a safety concern. officials in massachusetts asking people through a twitter campaign to go outside and shovel out their fire hydrants because if a car can be buried under that much snow, it can cause a lot of problems for emergency vehicles and such cases like a fire, victor and christi. >> my goodness. sara ganim, take good care there. thank you. the u.s.-led coalition is ramping up with airstrikes on isis positions. >> and the fight in the air may get a big boost from the uae. it is sending, we've learned, a
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squadron of f-16 fighter jets to jordan. we're going to take you live to amman next. okay, listen up! i'm re-workin' the menu.
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visit tripadvisor.com today. 30 minutes past the hour right now. and in syria, we know there are reports of explosions in the isis stronghold of raqqa. it's not clear whether the blasts are from new airstrikes by the u.s.-led coalition, but coalition aircraft, we know, have been pounding isis positions in both iraq and syria this weekend. and they've been hitting dozens of targets. >> and now the coalition is getting a boost from the uae. they're sending a squadron of f-16 fighter jets to jordan. let's get more from cnn's atika shubert in amman, jordan. atika, we're awaiting an update
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from the general command of the jordanian air force to learn what they've accomplished over the last couple of days since ramping up these airstrikes. but specifically, the rejoining of the uae, what's the significance of that? >> reporter: well, it's very significant. you probably remember that the united arab emirates suspended their flights after that jordanian air pilot went down over enemy lines in syria. there were a lot of concerns about pilot safety, and so they suspended it for several months. it now seems, however, they are rejoining and resuming those flights. perhaps more importantly, they are basing that squadron of f-16 fighters out of jordan. this is significant because it really shows solidarity with other arab ebb mamembers of the coalition. they'll be flying side by side as they hit those isis targets. so it's quite a strong message that's being sent out, especially when the number of airstrikes is now being ramped up considerably at jordan's request, victor.
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>> atika, secretary of state john kerry, he spoke a short time ago at the conference in munich about isis. and he says the war is not just being fought on the battlefield, right? >> reporter: that's correct. and this is something that jordan has also said. even though they're going to hit isis hard from the air, it really is a long-term fight. take a listen to what john kerry had to say at the munich security conference. >> the fight against violent extremists is not going to be decided on the battlefield. it's going to be fought and won in classrooms, in workplaces, houses of worship, community centers, urban street corners, and halls of government. >> reporter: now, just to emphasize how jordan feels about this, recently and very quietly, it released a radical islamist creature who is actually a supporter of al qaeda, but at the same time is a very harsh
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critic of isis. and it goes to show that jordan is very aware this is not going to be won by fighter jets pounding isis targets but really winning the hearts and minds of people not only in syria and iraq but also here in jordan. >> and the joining of queen reina with the march for this pilot went a long way to win the hearts and minds. atika shubert, thank you so much. and as airstrikes intensify against isis targets, jordan says they're leading the fight against the terror group. the big question is will they send in ground tops? earlier today i asked state department spokesman -- spokeswoman, i should say, jen psaki, whether the u.s. would put boots on the ground if jordan takes that first step. >> we've been clear that we're not considering sending ground troops in. that's not going to change. obviously, every country makes their own decision. and we certainly generally support them in that. our view is that the ground troops are going to be primarily iraqi forces fighting against isil in iraq which we've seen
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some success with. the opposition forces, we're starting our training program next month fighting against isil in syria. obviously different countries will make their own decisions. the united states is not planning on sending ground troops in, no. >> so a u.s. military official has told cnn the military is prepared to recommend ground forces if -- and that's a big if -- isis maintains defenses around mosul. officials say iraqi forces could begin to try and retake the isis stronghold as soon as april. and u.s. officials say there is no proof that american aid worker kayla mueller has been killed. isis claims mueller was killed friday, remember, during a wave of jordanian airstrikes. the 26-year-old was captured by militants in 2013, and her parents say they are still holding out hope that she is alive. they claim that they've had contact with the terrorist group. in a statement to isis, the mueller family writes this. "we've sent you a private message and asked that you respond to us privately. you told us that you treated kayla as your guest. as your guest, her safety and
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well-being remains your responsibility." but again, no word this morning on kayla mueller. reality star bruce jenner was involved in a fatal car crash yesterday afternoon. he was not hurt. sara sidner joins us with more. >> reporter: the investigation still under way in that terrible crash that left one person dead. bruce jenner involved in that crash. we'll have an update coming up just after the break. don't let u back. get theraflu... ...with the power of three medicines to take on your worst pain and fever, cough and nasal congestion. it breaks you free from your toughest cold and flu symptoms. theraflu. serious power.
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reality star and olympian bruce jenner was involved in a fatal car crash yesterday afternoon in malibu.
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jenner's publicist tells cnn that he was not injured, but one person died. and five children and two adults were sent to hospitals with injuries. now, his was the third vehicle involved in this multiple car crash. the los angeles county sheriff's department has now opened a vehicular manslaughter investigation. let's bring in our sara sidner. sara, how did this happen? >> reporter: well, basically there was a car that stopped short, another car behind it screeched on its brakes to try to stop themselves from hitting that car. and bruce jenner was behind that second car, ended up slamming into the back of a lexus. that lexus was pushed into oncoming traffic and hit by a hummer. i want to let you listen to the investigator who was on the scene at the time who kind of describes exactly what happened. >> it appears bruce jenner was involved in a rear-end of a vehicle. however, he was the third car in
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a multiple rear-end collision, which was an escalade with a trailer behind it towing a sand rail. bruce jenner's car, when it struck the lexus, the lexus went into oncoming traffic which struck the southbound h2 hummer. and the driver of the white lexus was pronounced dead at the scene. >> reporter: and we know now this morning from the coroner that that drive is a female, but her name is being withheld because they are still trying to notify family, the next of kin. a terrible accident, if you look at these pictures and you look at the state of her car after being hit that way. it also closed down pacific coast highway which goes along the pacific coast, a beautiful stretch of highway. closed it down for about seven or eight hours, just opening up at night. and this happened at about noon. we are told from the sheriff's department that this investigation is going on. but officially they're not saying it's a manslaughter investigation.
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officially they're saying this is so far just a traffic investigation with a fatality involved. and there are about seven people who were taken to the hospital injured from this. >> okay. so not that manslaughter investigation yet if they continue to develop that angle. we all know that, of course, bruce jenner has a lot of paparazzi that follow him because of his involvement with the television show and reports about him in his own right in the last couple of weeks. did paparazzi have anything to do with this? >> reporter: it's interesting because the sheriff's department says yes, the paparazzi were there. and we've seen some pictures on the tmz site that shows before the accident happened, almost a frame-by-frame picture of the accident happening. so we know that there were paparazzi there. the sheriff's department says yes, paparazzi were following. but they were not responsible for the accident. the pictures are out there. so it's clearly what's happening. and you know that he is always and constantly being followed as one of the stars of the reality show "keeping up with the
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kardashians." and there has been a lot of rumors about him lately. a lot of people trying to take his picture. a lot of people wanting to hear from him. and we have not yet heard from bruce jenner himself or the kardashian family at all in this case. right now only hearing from sheriff's investigators on the actual details of what happened. but not hearing much from him or the family themselves. >> we'll wait to get updates from investigators. sara sidner in malibu. critics slamming president obama after he compares islamic extremism to the christian crusade. he made these comments during the national prayer breakfast this week. why some say the president's comments were not only inappropriate but insulting to every person of faith.
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>> an aide said the president invoked the crusades as a way of adding context to his condemnation of islamic terrorists. still some have criticized it. one historian told "the new york times," and i'm going to quote here, any use of the word "crusade" has to be made with great caution. it's the most highly charged word you can use in the context of the middle east. let's talk to rabbi matthew webb and to father edward beck, we appreciate all of you being here. thank you so much. i wanted to ask you, is the criticism of the president so far, do you think it's fair? father beck, let's start with you. >> i really don't because my interpretation of what the president said was that all of our religious traditions are in danger of being corrupted by extremism and in this case by terrorists. i think he has been very
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hesitant to name this group as islam even because they hold none of the real tenets of islam. we have something in the catholic church called ex-communication. if you are not in union with what the church believes, with what the church practices, you don't get to call yourself part of that group. and i think that is really the point here. this is not about a war with islam. it's about a war against extremists and terrorists. >> let's talk about that for a second because that has been much debated lately. how to characterize isis. what to call them specifically. do we call them islamic extremists? do we call them terrorists? imam webb, let me ask you, do you feel that by calling them islamic extremists that we are doing harm to islam itself? >> i don't think so because you have more than 60,000 muslims who have died fighting isis in the middle east. a large number of muslim countries have joined the fight against isis. i think it's very clear that in
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the conscience of the broader muslim community, they see them as even hetradox. i think that was the beauty of the president's remarks, it implies, as father beck said, that people can use religion unfortunately for the most unreligious acts. so i think we should call them criminals. who use a religion to justify what they're doing. >> okay. rabbi, do you believe that it is important that we have a universal characterization of isis? >> a universal characterization is important for all people who are fundamentalists and literalists. those people who think they have a monopoly in the truth. those people who think they own god's word are dangerous to all religions, jews, christians and muslims. they're dangerous to everyone. >> so rabbi, what was your reaction to the president's comments? >> my reaction is first of all, it's so hard to evaluate words said when you're actually not in
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the room. so my guess is that part of this was taken out of context. my guess is that the president did use words that were highly charged. i agree, when you get into the crusades and the inquisition, especially since we're not historians, it's so many years ago, it's dangerous stuff. but i think he was trying to make a nuanced, sophisticated message that says be careful when you cast stones because the truth is is that each one of our religions have had fundamentalists in the past. we have them now. unfortunately we'll have them in the future. there's dangers and moderates have to get up and say no. the religion is about building people up, feeding those who are hungry, clothing those who are naked, freeing those who are oppressed. all of this becomes a distraction about what religion is supposed to be about. >> there was so much talk after this breakfast. so many were enraged. you saw this on social media.
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white house aides said the president wanted to be provocative. he wanted to stir debate with his remarks. father, do you think there was a better way to do so? >> obviously he was successful because here we are talking about it, right? >> right. >> i think it's getting us to think about the important questions. you have 1.6 million muslims in this world. that's 1/5 of the population. people will want to paint them with the same brush. he's saying we cannot do that. you cannot do that with any religious tradition. look into your own histories and do that. we have had extremists as well. let's come together as communities. monotheistic religions of peace. to use the inflammatory words of crusade, inquisition, people got on their high horse. those are heinous, historical periods if you read the specifics of them. so he got the conversation going. if that was his point, he
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succeeded. >> the president, he may have made his point a little more succinctly in this next part of his speech. please take a listen to this together here. >> we also see faith being twisted and distorted, used as a wedge or, worse, sometimes used as a weapon. from a school in pakistan to the streets of paris, we have seen a war started by those who profess to stand up for their faith, profess to stand up to islam but in fact are betraying it. >> do you think the president moved his message a little more clearly in that statement? >> most definitely. i think he focused on the broader universal point he made in the very beginning. he's speaking to people who are
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sophisticated theologians. i think that's to get a collective agreement. anti-semitism and islamophobia are running parallel. some will be anti-semetic who hold anti-islamic views so, yes, he's not only speaking to an audience where he's making something very clear about my religion, islam, and distorting it, but galvanizing people who want to live peaceful lives and celebrate god's glory. >> lastly, rabbi, do you see any way to try to bring about more tolerance in this age when there is so much anger? >> i am and i think all of us who are doing this as a living are hopeful. every day the sunrises we have the opportunity to sit on panels
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like this, to bring parishioners together have deep, complex, sophisticated nuanced conversations about what it means to be peace loving, faith loving religious people who have no intention to go out there and hurt one another and at the same time, of course, we have to stand up and say no to fund amountalists, say no to literalists. it's not going to work and we have to walk hand in hand. one last thing i'll say is i've been on two to three panels since paris, since "charlie hebdo." we're the moderates. we're appearing in hand. >> that is a good thing. we appreciate so much. rabbi gerritz, imam web and father beck, your insight is much appreciated. thank you for taking the time to talk with us today. >> thank you. >> thank you. coming up next hour, as the shelling violence continues in ukraine and peace talks remain at a stalemate, hear from the state department about the prospect for a peaceful
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