from an ever expanding russian assault. >> all the comes ahead of talks between germany, france ukraine and russia set for wednesday in mincek. that's the deadline for the road map for peace. we have this story covered from every angle. let's begin our cover annual live in kiev. frederick, what's the latest? >> reporter: i, alisyn. yeah one of the reasons the government here in kiev wants what they call the defensive weapons from the u.s. is they say simply their soldiers are dying on the battlefield. they want to try to stop. that aside from any of the sort of global political implications all that might have. they say what they need is tank weapons. even more than that, they need systems to try to pinpoint for instance where artillery fire is coming from at their troops as well. they say these are all things that the russian-plo-russian separatists have. they say they're getting that

from russian. it's something the russians deny. they say they feed weapons badly. at the same time as you said the government here in kiev as well as the europeans and the russians are trying to get the peace negotiations off the ground. they are set to meet wednesday in minsk, the capital of belarus. as we speak today, there is a meeting to try to get some of the details of such an agreement going. the big question is going to be how much territory are the pro-russian separatists going to get? there was an agreement to a cease-fire that happened last year in september. since then the pro-russian separatists have gained so much more control over the line there. are they willing to accept to give some of that up chris? >> thank you very much from kiev. let's move to what is actually happening on the ground. we have nick peyton walsh who is monitoring the situation. he was the first western journalist in the town of eastern ukraine leveled by pro-russian separatists. nick i hope you can hear us

through the phone. fred was just saying ukrainian forces say they need more electronic help in terms of assets to find out where fire is coming from. is that because the fighting on the ground is so crude, tanks, mortars doing wide swaths of destruction? >> reporter: well, chris, you can see behind me. i'm in a town which has been leveled by the fighting over the past week or so. key to the pro-russian separatist a town they need to overtake the vault. you the see what the heavy weapons have done to the key building. can you hear around my too outgoing strikes here. >> that as we think pro-russian separatist artillery hitting a position not far from us. but this town i have to say, remarkable chris, when you walk around it you see destruction, frankly, they haven't seen since

the russian town of grozny a camera will pan over here and show you why we believe a personnel carrier was destroyed in the fitting here. it is exactly that kind of old weaponry the ukrainians say they need help with. that's what they are referring to now. in this town you see what it must have been like for the civilians caught between the lines here t. front line has moved on from where i'm standing now, about 5 kilometers further, we understand but constantly changing and, of course that constant fear of artillery striking back at any moment that is again outgoing we believe from the separatists. but there are civilians coming back here trying to patch together what they can of their lives. we have seen whole apartment blocks repeatedly hit by shellings. we have gone through this town. the real fear now being where this violence will escalate as both seeds try to position

themselves better ahead of peace talks. mikaela. >> nick peyton walsh, thank you. the question remain will the president supply arms to ukrainian soldiers? michelle what are you hearing? >> reporter: secretary of state kerry has been saying there is not a rift he is insisting there is unity against the u.s. and europe on the response to russia. this meeting today is important to shape that response only two big levels. first of all, will there be different sanctions against russia on whether there is unity still and whether the u.s. should begin arming ukraine. the u.s. is considering that at this point, though, america el merkel is strongly opposed. some in general fweel the response against russia'sing as should be much stronger. we even heard from the president's national security adviser last week if laying out the national security strategy.

she slammed russia calming its actions a heinous and deadly assault and the u.s. has been worried that this peace deal if it happens brokered by france and germany would be top of a concession possibly of you trainian torte russia. but since both sides are coming to the table in minsk on wednesday. it seems unlikely we will see an additional response from the u.s. or europe until then alisyn. >> okay. michelle kazinski thank you for all that. let's bring in the acting vice president of the united states institute of peace. mr. ambassador thanks, for joining us this morning. >> glad to be here. >> are you confident or even hopeful this morning that germany and france can cobble together some peace plan with vladimir putin in the next 48 hours? >> i think it's possible and it's not just the germans and the french. it also is the ukrainians. mrs. merkel and mr. hollande

went to kiev before they went to moscow over the weekend. they spent five hours with the president going over what the proposal would be. they took it to moscow and they will go back to minsk and where he will be and it is clearly a ukrainian proposal as well. and, yes, i think the threat of weapons for the ukrainian, the threat of more sanctions on the russian, will have an effect. mr. putin looks to get out of this. he's got himself into a real bind. he needs to be able to find a way out. this should be the way. >> do we have any sense of what that peace plan or the proposals would actually spell out? >> we do. it's based on minsk agreement that mr. putin agreed to with the germans and the 47 and the

oace last september. it calls for a withdrawal a pullback from a lynn of contact t. line of contact back in september is different than the one today. but very interesting. the size of the buffer zone today that they're talking about is much greater than the one back then. so it is very possible that the pullback of the separatists, supported by russian military could be such that the ukrainians would get back the territory that they have been fighting over. so yes, we do know what's in it. it has pullback from the line. it has observation of the border crossings, which have now been wide opened for the russians to pour military equipment across from russia into ukraine. it calls for decentralization in ukraine where they said they are ready to divulge powers that local governments should use rather than having the decisions from the center.

we know generally what's in this plan. >> i don't have to tell you that vladimir putin is not always the most rational actor. what if he does not agree to this peace plan then what? >> then he is looking at more sanctions. the combination of european and american sanctions on his economy and the falling oil prices is devastating his economy. these sanction can get worse. they can get a lot worse. he knows that. he also knows the europeans and americans have been lock-step on these sanctions. if that continues, his economy is in real trouble. if he doesn't agree eto this agreement in minsk. he is looking to much more damage to his economy. >> as you know almost a year ago, the u.s. congress approved sending arms to ukraine. ukraine wants that. we just heard from our reporter who says they are begging for sophisticated electronic weapons with which to fight the rebels but france and germany are saying not to do that.

what is the answer here for the u.s.? >> the answer for the u.s. is to provide the weapons. this again may be forcing mr. putin to think carefully about these negotiations. but beyond that it is changing his calculation. if he knows that the ukrainians have weapons that can stand up to him, he has a big vulnerability. his vulnerability in addition to the economy is dead soldiers. if he knows that by increasing the military pressure on the ukrainian, he is going to face a big military response in the form of sophisticated weapons that we could provide, then his political support in russia goes down. the russian mothers and the russian wives of russian soldiers coming back dead is a big problem for him. >> but what about angela merkel's concern if we were to provide the lethal weapons it

becomes a proxy war between u.s. and russia. >> andrea merkel's concern is something to be taken seriously. but the issue is mr. putin. the issue is what does mr. putin do in the face of increasing economic pressure and now some military pressure? no one thinks that the ukrainian military is going to be able to defeat russian military. that's not the issue. the question is mr. putin's calculation, can he continue to provide the weapons to his proxys in eastern ukraine or will he look for a negotiated solution? >> former u.s. ambassador to the ukraine, william taylor. thanks for all the expertise this morning. let's go over to mikaela. >> all right. alisyn the u.s.-led coalition pounds positions in iraq and syria. in iraq air attacks are largely focused on the city of mosul, which is currently under isis control. cnn's phil black spoke with peshmurga fighters about the plan to retake that q3 city. he is live outside mosul. what did they tell you, phil?

>> reporter: mick what, wela,ee owe mikaela, on a clear day you can see right into it. it's a wide expanse of territory, town village, all of it still very much isis-controlled territory. just behind me the town was a major christian town. much after it fled the isis advance. they refuse to advance to islam. this position this position held by kurdish fighters is one in a long defensive line that they had been drawing around this territory. i believe they are accomplishing the first stage, the first military objective. that is to push isis back to draw this line behind the territory that isis still holds. then to hold that line to take away the ability of isis to advance and conquer new territory. they believe they have done that with of course the assistance of international air power. what will come next is a big

operation to re-take this isis territory, to re-take mosul. but mosul is an arab town. so the kurds don't want to do that on their own. it will come down to the iraqi army, which is currently being retrained, we built, remote rate issed. remember it is the fighting force that abandoned this territory when isis first invaded. the time frame as early as april, according to u.s. officials. the kurdsish fighters believe it could be some months more probably some time this year. chris, back to you. >> as you know mosul the fight of some of the fiercest fighting during the main war. be safe there, thank you for the reporting. in other news at least 30 people killed in a riot at a soccer match in egypt. state tv reports the fighting began before the game even started. apparently it was about fans trying to force their way into the game without tickets. you will remember another riot killed 74 people three years ago. 30,000 homeland security personnel could face furlough if

congress does not approve the department's funding by the end of the month. the state secretary dave johnson urging the republican-led congress to rethink a funding pressure to attack president obama's immigration overhaul. he says he is meeting with members of congress all this month to try to convince them to drop that idea. how about a little grammy news. sam was the man, sam thit winning four grammy including song and record of the year for "stay with me." album of the year was a surprise. it went to best morning fave. that was nearly taylor swifted by kanye west who jokingly ran on the stage. another notable moment pharrell making a subtle hands-up don't shoot gesture during his performance of the song "happy." there was a lot of music last night. i could have watched the whole thing. i loved watching. >> so many great performances. >> it was like back-to-being

performance, madonna, gwen stefani, great. >> which brings us to kanye. why would he try to relive what made him a fool? >> everybody was laughing. >> were they? >> except for you? >> i didn't watch. >> i didn't watch. i didn't watch. i got a here we go again for you. boston is in the bulls eye of another storm. 5-feet has piled up there. they're running out of places to put it. that's the truth. so what is coming next? when will that be? we have sarah live in boston. answer my questions. water coming and when? >> reporter: well it's coming right now, chris. already 8 inches of new snow on the ground since yesterday and on top of about 55 inches of snow that they've had in the last couple of weeks in the month of january. let me show you the big problem here. it's these giant snow piles that are getting bigger and bigger with each storm. that's because they're simply like you said no place to put this snow and this snow removal

budget is shot. it's gone. it's been spent. there is no plowing the streets. but they're having a problem figuring out what to do with it. how to get it out of town. this is a problem because these snowplows are tall. they're as tall as street signs in some places completely covering cars. this is an issue for fire hydrants because for safety reason they're concerned that firefighters if there is a fire won't be able to find fire hydrants. they launched a twitter campaign asking people to come outside and dig out their fire hydrants. there is also an issue on the streets. a lot of people are instead walking in the streets. we are seeing these streets are very narrow causing a lot of loss of visible penn when you are driving in the car. mikaela, back to you. >> those are all really valid concerns. hopefully, some folks will take heed to the mention on twitter. let's talk about this aspect of what is coming that chris was talking about? we'll go to cad meyers with the forecast.

boston is going to get hit. who else? i see your map behind you. >> i tell you what new york city is not going to have a good morning. this is tough. it is raining and 26 in new york city. raining because it's 35 degrees at the top of the empire state building. it's 26 down at the surface. so that's why it's raining and freezing when it hits. this is going to be worse tan the ice for new york city. there will be sheets of ice falling off the buildings again tomorrow. six to ten more inches of snow for boston and just maybe 10-to-12 for the berkshires and wooster county. they've already had plenty they're pushing now six, now seven feet out there to the west of boston in the hills there. the picturesque hills, but at some point in time. you say, please let it stop. is this is a quick storm. we are almost done with it. by tomorrow it's sunny. it warms up into the 30s. boston 30 for tuesday, 23 on wednesday and here's the bad news another small one-to-two

inch snowfall comes on thursday. behind it look at your morning low, welcome to the weekend at new york city. your morning low on saturday will be 7. and the dog's not going to want to go out. chris, guy, back to you. >> that doc won't hunt. >> no. >> that dog is going to stay under the covers. >> thanks,. >> we appreciate it. >> i think we say thanks. i don't know. >> meanwhile, back to this story that so many people have been following closely, isis claims american hostage kayla mueller was killed in an airstrike. her family does not believe them. what they are doing now to get the truth. that's next. .

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it's good to have you back with us here. as the u.s.-led attacks step up. the parents of american hostage aide worker kayla mueller are hoping she is alive. despite isis claims she is killed in an airstrike. they are reaching out on their own to the terror group. cnn has more on how this family is coping. >> reporter: the days pass one after another in prescott arizona and no real answer about kayla mueller. >> this is such a fluid situation going hour-to-hour.

>> reporter: he is a long-time family friend. for a year-and-a-half the museumers have lived with the knowledge that isis seized their 26-year-old daughter ordered by her captors to remain silent or kayla would be executed. then came friday. a claim by isis that no proof saying kayla mueller died in this building what was friday like? >> oh friday. friday was dark day, punched a hole through you. a big hole. >> reporter: kayla mueller's name now forced into the opened her parents urgeled her captors to contact them directly. >>. is there a statement they are trying to get lou? >> you know at this point they just want contact through the original channels. >> reporter: they remain secluded at their home guarded by local police still afraid to say the wrong thing. but they stand behind their

daughter's choices. >> i am in sal darity with the syrian people. >> reporter: a woman who refused to accept the suffering of syria's nearly 4 million refugees. the parents want they need answers. from one of the world's most brutal terrorist groups. >> you have no control. so you have to abide by the rules. and this was a living hell and it has been a living hell for the family and it is today. >> one this entire town prays will end soon. >> there is so much misinformation around confusion about what's going on with this american woman and really the whole situation. so what is the state of play allegheny county and with this hostage? let's bring in cnn political commentator, contributing editor a senior fellow. he got plenty of titles. do you have the answers? jordan says we are skeptical of

reports from isis that the american hostage who we were just talking about was killed in a bombing. but how would they know given that even though they have great intel resources, one of the things the coalition wants to put to their ear. they were wrong about their own pilot. so do we trust their distrust? >> i think nobody at least publicly seems to have a good idea about. it does seem very convenient for isis only this american hostage, no isis fighters they claim would have been killed in this airstrike. you could imagine it is an effort to divide the united states from jordan and provoke hostility that a u.s. hostage was killed. the truth, i think we have no idea. >> reporter: right. so it's really based on what the spin would be as opposed to intel on the ground? so state of play? 56 strikes from jordan that's good. they promise a lot more. that's good. the uae back in. they've pulled out. bus of jordan that's the kind

of coalescing we are looking to see here. we is regional partners. the question is to what end? what do we really know about what is going on on the ground? >> i think there is a move to take mosul the biggest city in iraq isis holds. probably sometime in the spring the question is they can't take territory. who is going to take this territory? the u.s. has had an effective allie in the kurds? but the kurds are probably not going to take mosul. it will have to be the iraqi army. >> tell us why. >> if you got an arab mostly a sunni arab area. they have kurdish population. this is a mostly sunni arab area. the question is can the iraqi army do it? remember they fell apart with isil. >> it's important t. reason i interjected here is because we don't get here that there are members of like different tribes they won't fight them?

the answer is yes, they won't go there. they only want to take their own and defend their own. that's part of the problem. >> the key thing for the u.s. in iraq is do we have sunni allies? the problem is the bet fighters in iraq are the kurds and also the shia militias that have been accused of terrible crimes against sunnis. so the question is do have you credible sunni allies? remember the reason we defeated al qaeda in 2006 is you had these sunni tribes in anbar that rebeld against al qaeda. are there similar allies today? the isis has grown weaker. our allies in the iraqi government are also weak. >> governor general john allen, he pointed out one of the problems there that things change over time. can the coalition change as quick will toy create an offensive. take a listen. >> isil is at an entirely different level than al qaeda was. >> are they harder to find now? they have adapted.

>> they have. we expect that will be the case. you don't see the long convoys now with flags flying in broad daylight. we have also adapted our targeting process as well. >> now, martha raddatz is one of the best in the business. she knew the answer to that question which is isis isn't making it easy anymore. is it true what the general says we have adapted as well? because our reporters say allegheny county they are kind of shooting into the dark. do you believe that the bombings have caught up to the new tactics? or you think he's being a little optimistic? >> this brings up one of the big debates in washington how many people do you want to put on the ground? if you want to know where your bombs are falling, you need people on the ground. that's one of the reasons when the u.s. managed to defeat the taliban, we had people on the ground directing these fights. >> do you think the intel jordan has that the u.s. doesn't have write is to infiltrate groups. do you think they are doing

that? do you think they will do that? >> i would think mostly now. i think it's absolutely critical. remember some of the powerful sunni tribes cross borders. so if you have a beginning against isis that would be very important. in iraq it will require these sunni tribe versus some level of ability to reach an agreement with the government of iraq. if they see the shia government as isis they're not going to fight isis. so for all the number thrown at us the reality remains the ground is unstable t. coalition needs better fighters and bigger numbers on the ground period and that's where we are. >> right. we are talking about iraq it's worse in syria. in syria, we have virtually no good ground allies at all. >> the irony there, of course that assad was made an enemy of the coalition. what he was doing now, he would

have been the big st asset if fighting them when they flee back across the border. thank you very much. we look forward to using you going forward on this am sin. >> okay. chris, next we will visually illustrate what you all have been talking about. we will go to the big map to show if any progress is being made against isis. in my world, wall isn't a street. return on investment isn't the only return i'm looking forward to. for some every dollar is earned with sweat, sacrifice, courage. which is why usaa is honored to help our members with everything from investing for retirement to saving for college. our commitment to current and former military members and their families is without equal. start investing with as little as fifty dollars.

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. >> is the united states standing in the way of a ukraine peace deal? german chancellor angela merkel is pressing the president to resist because she fears russia could respond by escalating the conflict t. problem is ukraine forces are getting pounded. our reporters say they desperately need the help. merkel has given vladimir putin until wednesday the agree a road map for peace. that's when four-way talks are scheduled for ukraine, russia germany and france. jordan's military pounds targets in syria. officials say they have launched 56 airstrikes against the terror group since the video showing a jordanian pilot being burned alive.

meantime coalition forces are attacking mosul if northern iraq a. city under isis control t. strikes are in tandem with turkish troops on the ground. we are trying to survive mosul and cut off isis supply lines. bruce jener telling l.a. police paparazzi were chasing him when he was involved in a fatal car crash. verdicts say there is no sign photographers played a role if saturday's accident. officials may seek cell phone records and search for possible video to see what led to the crash that killed a woman in her 70s. jener has issued a statement offering his condolences and pledging to cooperate with authorities. we don't usually give you advice. here's some. got a dream? buy a powerball ticket t. jackpot is $450 million. no one hit it big in saturday's drawing. so you got another chance my brothers and sisters. the next drawing is this wednesday if you get in good luck. remember me fondly if you get

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. welcome back to "new day." fighting on two major fronts. in eastern ukraine, people fleeing as ukrainian troops and russian-backed rebels crashed. syrian airstrikes trying to force an isis retreat. let's start with ukraine. let's look at the territory now held by the pro-russian rebels.

so let's pop that up on our map. so those two key areas. tell us what we are seeing. >> well in the style basically that's crimea. that's gone. russia has claimed it. they have incorporated it into russia. >> that is basically off the table now in any negotiations with putin. >> even the peace plan they are proposing, crimea doesn't go back? >> i can't see a scenario that he hands it back. so much of his prestige depends on his image as somebody that took crimea. they regard that historically as his territory. i can't see him give that back. >> okay. then this other territory is up for grabs. >> >> the eastern part of ukraine bordering there, these two provinces very crucial. heavy industry and mineral wealth is there. that's where you have a large russian-speaking population that has been acting as a kind of fifth column for russia. that's what is basically being

discussed now. can russia get its own troops out, can they create sort of buffer zone around it? can ukraine, in turn give these two provinces greater autonomy to act on their own and basically stop the shooting? nearly 5500 have been killed. more than a million displaced from there. quite a lot of those have gone to russia. so there is a burden on russia as well in eastern ukraine. >> let's go back to the map and show where the nato has decided to add more troops to these bordering countries. does that get putin's attention? >> yes and. he will take note of that. i don't think it will change his calculus on ukraine? on ukraine, russia regards it. putin regards it as a critical national security issue. having more troops in the neighborhood is not going to he knows nato is not going to fire on his troops. he has been calling nato's bluff

for more than a year now. they will not engage militarily with russia. ukraine in that sense is on its own. >> let's move to our iraq map now and show what the territory is that isis seems to be in control of. let's look at this on the map. this is where you will see it in a second t. bright red is where isis appears to have a very strong foothold and what are you seeing there. >> isis is not taking fresh territory. in some places you can't see that. in some places they have been pushed back t. momentum of isis we saw around this time last year when everyone thought this was an irresistible force. >> that has been slowed. >> that is stopped. >> that has been important. to take back these larger urban areas. >> such as mosul. let's look at the map. what is the situation with

mosul? >> it's a city of 2 million people. when isis took it last year that was a big feather in their cap. now the coalition, the u.s.-led coalition is bombing the areas around mosul. but to take mosul back would be very difficult. it requires urban warfare, a city of 2 million people. it would have to have some sort of an internal upheaval against isis to begin to push them back. >> lastly let's look at ra ka is that now in isis control? >> it has been for while now. it is that capital city. they place a lot of importance on it. again, coalition bombing has come closer to ra ka. it's an urban area. you can't hide against a group that is perfectly happy to fight amongst civilians. >> of course jordan is trying to put a dent in that in ra ka.

>> everyone does jordan does too, the airline company can shake things up maybe stop new recruits coming into isis can hurt isis economically. but to push them away from the territory they had, that will take more than bombs in the sky. >> let's go to mikaela. >> all right,al sinl. he has apologized. he is off the air, temporarily the firestorm over brian williams iraq story intensifies. is the writing on the wall for someone who may have been one of the most trusted fames in news?

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the fact is is that mr. williams wasn't in or near our aircraft at the time and it saddens me that you have so many other combat journalists out there that are in that type of

situation. you know, seeing those things happen more likely they probably don't tell the story like that. you know with embellishment. >> that's a chopper pilot whose aircraft was hit in the iraq war a moment at the center of the brian williams controversy williams backing out of an appearance with david letterman after announcing he will take time off over his false account of that incident. there are so many pieces and parts of this. let's start on the announcement saturday. he says he needs to step down to adequately deal with the issue. you got a sense after you have done digging and talking to folks, this was his idea. he was encouraged to do so. what is the genesis? >> that is the official version of the network. he decides to do this.

they support him. but the silence is one of my guesses, the silence is deafening. it's not as if the network versus come out and expressed support for him. david carr in the "new york times" says it's not like you can bench yourself. the american people have to know that somebody is in charge except for maybe the man investigating williams' prior claims. he is now in charge of digging through and fact next e checking. he is known as a digger. he has a great reputation in the industry. he will not whitewash the claims. he will get to the bottom of what's really true. >> brian williams says he's temporarily taking himself off the air. is he ever coming back? >> as soon as he said several days is when he'll be away for. the clicking clock starts.

every day he doesn't come back seems to be a difficult situation for him. . i do have to wonder this would be something to be sympathetic of brian williams, he will be not on tonight. lester holt will be on. how will viewers react? will viewers complain about it? will viewers write in and say they want to see brian back? or will they not? will the ratings hold up just fine without him there. nbc will have a sebs of how this will go. >> we don't have the ratings yet. you think maybe people will tune in to see how he is holding up. whether he says anything more about this. we don't have the numbers yet. >> another big question is how it's covered, right? the question of how the other networks cover it. they are their direct competitors. abc, cbs, how they are covering it. how their own network covers it. msnbc has their own subnetwork

if you will. >> they started to talk about it on air. you are seeing abc and cbs mention it on air, too. i think what you get from msnbc is obviously more sympathy. that's understandable. even though there are some legitimate issues and real scrutiny there is sadness. larry king tweeted this all makes me sad. i keep hearing that word a lot. even though i have to say at the same time there are some questions here real issues about credibility. so you can be sad and yet believe there are some real problems he has told over the years. >> for nbc to take him off the air would be a huge move. they're winning in the ratings. ratings are our currency. when you are winning, you are very reluctant to ever make a move. abc was gaining on them a little bit. the demo and total viewers. brian williams wins every fight. >> the day he apologizes he's been criticized about a half apology.

the day he apologized for his errors i was going to write how he is doing better lately. he is solidly winning the key demographic the tv people live and die by. he was coming back he was in a strong position for the ratings. >> the truth is he is not as strong, abc, david pure the team they put together there. yes, i am a former abc percent i love them over there. i wish him the best. he has been making inroads to bryant brian has been more vulnerable. there is 240-plus million dollars in revenue here. it's day two. i do not know their bench well. i do not think they have anybody they have been grooming to take over for them. that then leads to the question of "morning joe" our friends over there. it's how they are talking about it. he is not known as a journalist. it's hard for him to talk about. what do you think they are saying this is too much this is too much. you be the one to cast the first

stone? is that right for them to say? >> i guess it's the only thing they can say. their bosses are basically the same bosses at the end of the day. i don't know if they would fell fully able to talk about this story in that way. can i tell you privately, nbc people the sources i talked to from the top to the bottom are horrified by this. they think it's a real stain on the whole network. not just on brian williams. people privately are talking about this as if he's possible he won't come back. on thursday someone said brian williams is too big to fail. no one is saying that anymore. >> what about the stain beyond him, his career and nbc? do you think this has, is going to be a defining moment for journalism? i mean we look at this in our own way and we have to do some intraspecs on our own. >> any time one high profile a-list journalist falls.

it hurts everybody in a little way at least. it damages credibility overall. everyone can point to and say this is how it always goes. this how they are. we seen trust levels of media falling over the years rather steadily. at the same time most journalists try to get it right and retell the truth every day. we need to regain people's trust and when something like this happens, it hurts the whole industry. fundamentally, this is now a business decision. that might feel wrong. it might feel awkward. we might want this to be about ethics and emotions no it's a business decision for nbc at this point. nobody can say whether he will be coming back or not. >> all of this to mull over for the folks at home let us know what you think. get into the conversation tweet us. reach out to us on facebook. keep the discussion going, thank you. >> one story for you. there is a lot of news this morning so let's get to it. >> to get these, you have to

defend your country. >> how long can putin sustain a war that he tells his people is not happening? >> president putin's got to make the decision. >> he must provide defensive arms to ukraine. >> already they have seen in excess of 63 7 inches of snowfall since yesterday. >> be vigilant. remain safe and calm. >> the former marine was suffering from ptsd. >> this is a tragic story. the "american sniper" success will impact jurors. he wants the trial moved out of a small texas town. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota and michaela ferrara. >> welcome back everyone to "new day." competing plans on the table as stability in the ukraine comes to the white house. the president is considering sending weapons to ukraine.

chancellor merkel is advising them to pull back that russia could respond with force. >> merkel and french president hollande are getting set for top meetings wednesday with russia. he waives merkel's warning. he agreed to help. there are a lot of different angles on this story. we have them all covered. let's begin in ukraine's capital kiev fred what do we know? >> reporter: hi chris the ukrainian strs a dual strategy on all that. on the one hand they are looking forward to this summit set to take place in the belarus capital in minsk on wednesday where they hope a cease-fire agreement can be worked out. they say what's happened to past cease-fire agreement, they're not sure which agreement first of all could be hammered out, second of all, could be implemented. what you said they want the u.s.

to give them weapons. they say the most important thing is anti--tank weapons and anything that has to do with electronic warfare to pinpoint where the russian pro-separatists are and especially where they are firing from so they can fire back. they believe in that they are very much lagging behind what the pro-russian separatists have. meanwhile the violence here in ukraine continues and appears as though it's getting worse. overnight, there was a gigantic explosion in the town of donetsk when ukrainian artillery hit what seemed to be a weapons depot. there was a massive explosion that took place. also over the weekend, nine ukrainian soldiers have been confirmed to be killed t. ukrainian government says as many as 1, are 500 russian troops cross the border. the russians continue to say it's not them but it's simply volunteers who are coming across

the border. >> okay. thank you so much for all of that. the conflict in ukraine gets deadlier by the day when 5,300 people have been killed thins april. national correspondent nick peyton walsh is the first western journalist in a town level busity pro-russian separatists. nick. >> reporter: in here in the town you can see exactly what those heavy weapon versus done to this town a. three-story building two huge holes punched through it. it was once a ukraine position. around me you can hear too, the outgoing fire of pro-russian separatists. they continue to advance to the town a key objective for them. they want much more territory in donetsk after that. but around and in this town you can see the signs of devastation, an armored personnel carrier over here which the cameraman will pan towards slowly literally, no building seems to have escaped the destruction here. we have seen some civilians who

come back here trying to piece their lives back together a. nine-story building which has four or five huge holes here, a couple people trying to eek out alive, some using this perhaps one of the first pauses in the violence to creep back here and gather their possessions, the huge fear is that in the days ahead of the peace talks in belarus and minsk where people will try perhaps to fashion a cease-fire that, both sides may escalate in the violence to try to regain the territory they want or improve tear position at that negotiating table. >> nick thank you so much. please stay safe there. you heard the mortar fire in the background. well that's the dilemma. right? obviously, the russian-backed military there is making real advances, how long can ukraine hold out? that is set against this german chance lar angela merkel. she is in washington expecting to push president obama not to arm ukraine, not to give up what

you heard our reporters saying they desperately need because she believes it would make the situation worse. how does the make sense? what will the white house do you? we have our correspondent michelle kazinski what itself the word? >> reporter: is this possible peace deal between russia and ukraine brokered by france and germany? president obama and german chancellor angela merkel will be discussing that today. because the parties are meet income minsk, it seems unlikely there will be a big change in either the u.s. or european response to russia until that happens. there have been high level meetings on this subject all weekend, though involving u.s. officials, those from other countries and secretary of state john kerry insists there is still unity between the u.s. and europe in this response. it remains to be seen, though moving forward, if these peace talks fail what does that mean for sanctions? where there does seem to be unity and imposing more but also we know that the u.s. is

considering arming ukraine. there have been increasing calls to do that within this country. the german chancellor and others remain strongly opposed. so that's the question. that's going to be discussed more this afternoon. chris. >> all right. let's get some details on that because michelle as we both know head of state pressers can be mostly ceremony. not today, president obama and the german chancellor will take questions. cnn will cover it live. please stay with wolf blitzer with that in the 11:00 hour eastern time. nick. >> meanwhile the u.s.-led coalition continues to pound isis conditions in iraq and syria. in iraq the air attacks are focused on the city of mosul. kurdish forces on the ground are attempting to surround the city and cut off isis supply lines. cnn's phil black spoke with the peshmurga about their plan to retake this strategic city. will ejoins us from live outside of mosul, phil. >> reporter: mikaela, good morning, we are on the top of

the southern outskirts of mosul. behind me is a wide expanse of town virnlgs all still controlled by isis. it is a big chunk of territory. but it is significantly smaller tan it was and it now has definite limits. this position here is one fortified position along a long defensive line t. kurdish fighters in this region are now building digging in around isis. they've pushed them being. they are building these defensive lines and crucially they are now holding them. they ploov they have taken away isis' ability to move forward and claim new territory all with the help of international air power. of course you are right. they are drawing this line to choke up the city ahead of a major operation to take it back. >> that will happen they say, when the iraqi army is ready to do it. remember it was the iraqi army that fled gave up mosul and all of this land when isis first invaded northern iraq. it is currently being retrained,

remote rate issed, hopefully, then it will lead the fight, fighting street-to-treat to retake mosul. these peshmurga fighters will help. they don't want to do all the heavy lifting. mosul is very much an arab city t. time frame for that operation is still unclear, some u.s. officials believe it could be as early as april. here on the front lines, though people tell us it is still some time off. likely this year. alisyn back to you. >> okay. phil black. stay safe. thanks for all. that let's get context on everything we have been talking about. let's bring from cnn's chief correspondent. nice to see you. let's start with the news about ukraine. what is the feeling about the prospect for a peace process, a plan actually happening in the next 48 hours? >> well clearly everyone wants to wait to see what transpires at minsk again. who knows, there is very little coming out. there is word from you know people close to the putin camp that they want certain conditions met. what does that mean?

we don't know? we are hearing today the language coming out of the kremlin is slightly more constructive. they are calling the current talks constructive and substantive. what does that really mean? i boic to the american general who leads nato who says that after the last minsk agreement the line of defense has moved very significantly west. in other words the russians and russian-backed separatists are moving with huge amounts of material men and detail formation. so this is not just a bunch of rag tag separatists, according to nato chief allied commander. this is russia entering the fray because just before that the ukrainians were in fact winning on the battlefield. russia entered and the whole equation has changed again. >> of course as you know ukraine is asking the u.s. for help with weapons. they want lethal weapons sent. what's the sense in terms of if president obama is about to approve this? >> well who really knows?

that's much more a question for washington. clearly, obviously, ukraine wants that. we den know we know that his nom flee for defense secretary said he is inclined to. we den know what decision the president will make. probably we won't know until after the minsk situation and when we have a readout on thursday when foreign minsters and other leaders get together again. the actual problem here is that while sanctions have in fact hurt russia no doubt about it economically business with the oil crisis et cetera it has hurt russia but it hasn't deterred russia. so nothing has actually deterred russia from its continued military means. so the real question is if minsk doesn't succeed, what next? what happens next? how do you get russia to stop invading another european country, which is what is happening right now. >> angela merkel said she does not believe the u.s. should send weapons she fears could turn into a proxy war or a war between the u.s. and russia.

she doesn't think that that's the right answer. >> well basically is a war in europe they are worried about. a war in europe is happening under way right now. russian forces are in ukraine according to satellite everyday and all the everyday that other intelligence from other western capitals. they know it's happening t. question is how to stop it the getting stopped. putin although his nuclear arms but for years and years the west refused to allow bosnia and others to defend itself. had an arms embargo on bosnia. so they were praktally defeated on the battlefield until the equation changed and the west stepped in. obviously, this is slightly different. but people are saying okay if you don't want to give the weapons for them to defend themselves right now, then you have to physical out what to do if this latest peace proposal

doesn't work. by the way, what if it involves putin's demands to have a bigger amount of territory in ukraine, eastern ukraine. already, they have as i said pushed the front line much further west and according to nato commander, they have moved in very strategic ways to gain contiguous territory. whether they want to keep that or whether they want the negotiations that's a political question. but again, the fact of the matter is ukraine will never be able go up against russia militarily. the question is can you effect the dynamic on the battlefield to be able to have a reasonable and proper peace settlement. >> christiane let's quickly move on to iraq and isis. they say the peshmurga are trying to fight back there. what is the coalition airstrikes along with what the peshmurga are doing are actually making a dent in isis? >> well they are. i mean if you look at what happened in kobani.

it's a very important psychological victory. not to flengs a tactical victory for the kurds and anti--isis coalition. that's good. we can see in certain areas in iraq where there has been a sort of a kind of a whole to the isis onslaught. mosul is key, if in fact they can win back mosul if the kurds, the ground forces can do this with the iraqi forces that would be good. there is a luge amount of disagreement and difference between the kurds the iraqi government and the united states and the west as to when will be the optimum movement to make that move. so yes, everything is sort of trying to get under way to push isis out of mosul. and people think that actually because it's under such military pressure that's why it's doing the most horrendous horrific things we saw with the pilot and the like and that has really turned a lot of opinion against them. >> always great to get your

perspective, thanks, very much. >> all right. some of the stories moving right now, a soccer match left at least 30 dead overnight in egypt. there are reports that started when fans tried to force their way into the game without tickets. people were crushed against barriers and gassed against riot police. this is a haunteding reminder of 74 killed in a similar riot three years ago. >> secretary of state john kerry is ruling out another extension of nuclear talks with iran if no agreement is reached in the coming weeks. secretary kerry says major points must be in place next month. if not, he says it will be impossible to extend. he has given more than enough time to prove the program is peaceful. now to this incredible nail biting video of deputies pulling a driver out of a car. it was caught on a body cam. let's watch this. >> get out of the car. >> okay. this rescue took place christmas

morning in dest inin florida. the driver was treated for minor burns, both deputies received a medal of merit for their brave work. >> just missing a y in the name of this town. his destiny. he wasn't overcome. >> he wasn't able to just open the door and get out. >> i don't know what precipitated this did the car crash? did he hit his head? who knows? >> you hear i forget the deputies are saying get up. >> he was incapacitated. >> it shows how brave they are. the car could blow. >> look how close the fire was to them. my goodness. >> that was a great line. one y away from what that was all ability. snow wary boston. they are in the brunt of another major winter storm. here is a live picture for you right now. that's new england underneath all that white stuff. 5-feet of snow so far. another foot possible just

today. thems the facts. meteorologist chad myers has the forecast. i do not blame you, chad. there are others who do. you are telling it like it is my brother so please inform us. >> 292 flights out of boston cancelled already today. about 250 at laguardia. icing in new york city snow in boston. warm enough to the south to make rain. but not the surface. it's 26 degrees in new york city. so it's raining and it's falk on to a frozen surface. all that will be an ice storm across new york parts of new jersey. there is the snow for boston 8 to ten more. they already had 8 since midnight. 8 plus 8 is 16. 8 plus 10 is a foot-and-a-half. here we go we are piling up the snow in bun. the good news this storm is about done. in about six more hours, it breaks up it's gone by tomorrow. mostly sunny for tomorrow

pretty warm comparatively where we have been. 30 in new york city if you will be scraping ice. 37 on tuesday, so it will be easier to do there. get the ice off the sidewalks, please by thursday because a major cold front comes through. look at this boston friday morning, 1 below. that is not a wind chill factor. >> that is a temperature on the thermometer t. wind chill factor will be 20 below, new york city your low will be 7. guys back to you. >> i'm holding on to that it's moving out. i have a special delivery coming from the west coast overnight. i need it to get here for valentines week. >> right. >> it is a chilly valentine's day. >> a special delivery. >> 6'4 itself. >> cuddly. >> if it's chocolate. they won't melt in the airplane. such a are mantic. >> how true. >> jordan unleashing its wrath on isis vowing to wipe out the terror group. did one of its terror strikes

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two big questions, is kayla mueller the american hostage held by the terrorists known by isis is she alive? they say she's dead. are these new bombings that are going on because of jordan are they making a difference and what comes next? we get answers in the form of a spokesman for jordan's government. doctor it's good tough back. thank you for joining us. everybody concerned about this

word from isis as you call them who say the person hostage was killed by your bombings. now, that would be very convenient for them to spin the message that way. do have you any proof they are lying? lying? >> hi good to be with you again. the proof is that what our experience would then prove strongly these people lie about these things all the time. they use these things so spin things around to use it for their own political agenda. we have no reason whatsoever to take them at their word or believe they are the same. plus we in jordan have an experience they lied to us about the fate of their pilots. that's second. third, things does not add up logically, there is no way for them to have been able to identify a jordanian airplane in the sky to say what they are

saying. i think this terrorist organization is lying. i think they should be skeptical about what they are saying. >> one of the assets jordan possesses is intelligence in the form of ill i infiltrators. there have been reluctance in the part of his majesty. is your intel now more engaged on the ground and gathering information, sighting targets, et cetera? >> we have been engaged right from the beginning, chris. we are cooperating with this issue of off friends and allies. our efforts and capabilities when it comes to gathering information, assisting, assessing the situation through our intelligence department literally continues to be fully engaged. we strongly believe and foreign ministerially believe this is a fight worth fighting. it's a just war that we all

should come together to fight it. >> right. one development that certainly gives some hope to the idea that the region will take more ownership of this the uae pulled out. the uae was afraid their pilots might be captured. they didn't feel there was enough security on the ground they're now back in. is the king trying to rally the region? >> i think jordan has been a driving force behind this regionally we have been spoken intensively with our arab friends to think about this dangerous organization. the need to come together. i think what happened in the last couple of days also rallied societies and governments around it. so jordan has been a driving force around this. we continue to be the king of bahrain arrived to jordan and on agenda of the discussion is also the efforts that we need all to come together to show them this responsibility of fighting this

evil in the region. >> now one of the complexities on the ground that is very familiar to you is that people fighting often are looking to defend their own first the tribal loyaltys. we see wit the peshmurga, the tribal fighters. now, we are encountering mosul and other towns with arab-based tribessmen there. maybe the kurds won't be as motivated to fight there. >> that renews the need for people on the ground. is jordan considering, at least, putting some of its fighters on the ground to help because that's the most urgent need? >> currently, chris, it's about the current members helping the iraqi military and the iraqi tribes do the fighting on the ground and the peshmurga, the kurdish troops as well. so this is the assessment now. now this is a war. it's a continuous war.

so we leave it to the literary people to assess the situation and to tell us what would be the best way to go about winning that war. the object siv clear. we will leave it to the military people to tell us what will be needed. we are certainly engaged by coalition members trying to help the iraqi military. they train more and in order to fight the iraqi tribes are definitely a hot spot when it comes to being affected directly? so i think we need to find best way to help them fight these terrorists. >> as we all know the battles will be one or more on the ground. the more people who join the better. the ground is relevant. right where are you standing. it's own issues with extremism.

they have a foothold there. they're actively recruiting. what will the government do at home? >> we think we have a good grasp of the situation here we think the massive majority are rallying around the war. i think they understand this is a war we are fighting. these terrorists cannot be let go without being punishled. we have a small number exaggerated. our security agency versus a good understanding. >> 2,000 foreign fighters doctor, that is not an act rat number? >> you are talking about the number of jordanians who might have been told to leave the countries and the fighting outside of jordan. these are the estimates we keep hearing. again, our security agency

versus a good grasp of this phenomenon. those who are committed red handed doing these things in media and social media is going there to participate in the fight we immediately put them in jail and take them to court in order to stop this phenomenon. >> obviously, a big part of this will be beating the hate for what people can have in their lives. thank you for joining, sir, best of luck. >> all right. texas senator ted cruz never afraid to speak his mind even when it comes to his own party. john king has what he said inside politics. when salesman alan ames books his room at laquinta.com, he gets a ready for you alert the second his room is ready. so he knows exactly when he can check in and power up before his big meeting. and when alan gets all powered up, ya know what happens? i think the numbers speak for themselves.

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she has given vladimir putin to agree to a road map for peace. that's when four-way talks are scheduled between ukraine, russia germany and france. forces are unleashing new airstrikes on isis and iraq. officials report at least a dozen strikes over the weekend. mosul is currently controlled by isis. in the meantime the family of american hostage kayla museumer is pleading with the terrorist grown-up to contact them. they believe kayla is still alive despite claims by isis she was killed in a jordanian airstrike. listen to this a man allegedly drove his truck through the gate of a coast guard station and drove into the building. he said he would blow up the station allegedly with a bomb the his truck. officials said there was no bomb and no link to terrorism and thank god no one was hurt. a lot of politics to talk about. let's get right to john king on inside politics. happy monday john. >> happy manned.

ted cruz hearts joe biden. that's where we will start inside politics joining me jackie kucinich of the daily boast. let's talk, in a second over the weekend the vice president was in munich. the president today will sit down as alisyn noted with angela merkel at the white house. they are trying to deal with the crisis in ukraine. listen to biden telling vladimir putin the russian president, we don't buy much of what you say. >> given russia's recent history, we need to judge it by its deeds not its words. don't tell us show us president putin. too many times president putin promised peace and delivered tanks, troops and weapons. >> tough talk there, direct talk from joe biden. listen to ted cruz on the state of the union saying the vnt is right but --

>> the vice president i not gave an effective speech but i got to tell you in the room what everyone kept saying is interesting speech. we have no confidence that president obama is listening to the vice president. listen what we needed here and what we have needed for six years is strong american leadership t. obama-clinton carry foreign policy has been consistently wrong. >> joe biden, the democrat republicans suddenly love i guess. >> it was kind of a backhanded compliment though his speech was interesting, no one was listening, sorry, joe biden. there is a lot of what ted cruz has been saying he is using it to hit hillary clinton not only obama. >> the mention of obama-kerry reference, perhaps compensating for the fact that john kerry could be rung for president? >> we'll get to that. it is an interesting moment. joe biden is off to iowa wait a

minute isn't hillary clinton the far away runner what are you doing? he did reach out and ted cruz has been among the most active. very high profile here in washington sometimes in controversial way traveling the country. look at him in this new hampshire poll which tells you number one no front runner. why is ted cruz for all his high profile in the party at 31st? >> people in new hampshire don't like the kind of bold outrageous ted cruz type usually. you don't see that. i think that's why that's reflecting that way. >> i also think there is something to the fact people are looking for a president and perhaps the image of him is not presidential. it's more as a sort of a combative washington figure who has been taking it to obama. which they like but his challenge, john is to take that image and transform the

presidential. >> not easy. he is single digits you mentioned, new hampshire doesn't like that. >> he's low out in iowa as well. >> i mean, rick periwent after him implicitly. he was talking about obama. he was talking about him not ready to be a president. if are you a republican voter you spent the last six years now saying obama wasn't ready, a freshman senior wasn't ready, whether it's marco rubio or ted cruz is that a problem to convince republican activists who made that about the last freshman senator our current president? look at me? >> i think it is. when have you so many governors, have you high profiles running. i think it's a big hurdle. not only for them also for elizabeth warren on the other side who is frequently mentioned as a potential challenger to hillary clinton. >> there is a history of electing the opposite. that's what we tend to do.

it to be structural too. the fact is that is a looming problem for those the senators that you mentioned. it will be more pressing when their opponents and this primary bring it up explicitly. now it's folks like us talking about it. perry and others started saying that over and over again, especially figures like rubio and rand move higher in the polls. >> a sitting senator a government with other credentials. let's go to ted cruz. remember when they passed when they kept the government running last year they passed this big spending bill. they were so bad. they said no we want to vote separately on homeland security funding. now there is some threat of the department running out of money

saying we have to stop. the president saying this sunny fault. >> this is a strategy the cromnibus strategy. i fought strong in december. i said the gives up our leverage. it puts us into a boxed canyon. so i would say it's now up to leadership to layout their strategy. i told them this was not a winning strategy. they went down the road anyway. >> i love it. >> which pits us in a boxed canyon. it's a great way. they are if a boxed canyon. have you ted cruz or steve king people in the house saying what the president did. they think it's unconstitutional. they think it's wrong unless they want to take away the money for the department that protects our borders that keeps us safe from terrorism. >> even then they can't stop it. it will happen. remember how well the shut down

worked so. we ted cruz blaming everyone else it might be time to look internally. >> he know what is he is doing, that box is poignant. the phrase they used against him on the shutdown they had a memorable exchange in the floor of the senate. now the exact analogy but cruz is having 1 fun now with the other side. >> the fun politically. let's see if they can get out of there? this is a huge challenge for republican leadership we will prove they can govern. >> instead of addressing in december. they adhered to the maximum, why do today what you can do tomorrow. >> i will give you guys a chance. you mentioned at the beginning. i was going to have this conversation with alisyn chuck todd you are not going to run, are you? he says. >> never say never.

>> nobody ever says never, but i'm not never i have no concept of it. >> highway has no concept of it. does anyone else have a concept of it? >> he is ready and rested and ready and has miles under his belt. >> jonathan was noting in new york we might have a cycle. another massachusetts guy running for president. red sox nation has to be represented out there, somewhere. we usually lose though. >> a good point. i'm not sewer you is good enough to get in the race. never say never. >> for your entertainment. i know, i get that. john thanks, so much. great to talk to you. all right, "american nieper" chris kyle's alleged killer is about to go on trial. does the popularity of the movie color the case? our legal experts weigh in.

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kyle is set to begin this week. but the popularity of the equipment "american sniper" based on kyle's life raises questions. will the defendant get a fair trial and if he has ptsd and mental illness problems problems the movie highlights what will the verdict be? joining us now, cnn senior legal analyst and former federal prosecutor and paul callan cnn legal analyst and criminal defense attorney. palm let's start with the first question which is do you believe that given where they will have this trial and the popularity of the movie, do you think it can be held in a fair way? >> yes, i do think it will be held in a fair way. it will be very difficult, obviously, with "american sniper" being the most popular movie in the country. everybody is intimately familiar with the victim in this case which is very rare in a murder case. but in the end you have to say if you choose to shoot a famous person you can't later on say

it's unfair to give me a trial because i shot a famous person. he can't go he's got to be moved some place else in texas. everybody in texas knows about the case. everybody in the united states knows about the case. >> jeffrey, i was surprised to learn the judge is fought going to automatically disqualify potential jurors who have seen the movie or have read chris kyle's auto biography. >> not automatically, but you can be sure they will be questioned closely whether they have feelings that would disqualify them? you know we often have this conversation about how profile cases, can you get a fair jury. i think people in the news media thinks people follow these cases as much as we do. people don't. people in the real world have other lives, other interests. i think it's usually easier to find an unbiassed jury that you might think here. >> let's get into it a little here palm. here's what we know.

every show according to senior producer john griffin, every show, every seat that they were having in this area of texas was sold out. so you know people are watching the movie. but the question is what message do you take away from it? this man supposedly has ptsd supposedly is going to defend himself with insanity the movie makes very strongly a case that this is much worse than you people know. you don't understand what they deal with over there and how it plagues them coming home. could that ply to his favor and maybe he gets found guilty but insane? >> i think that's a great observation. i think in fact the combins existence of the movie will hem him tremendously. it's almost like the movie is an exhibit how veterans returning from iraq can suffer from conditions ptsd in particular t. defense here isn't i didn't do it. the defense is this mental illness caused know do it. it's almost as if chris kyle is

helping him through the grave through this movie requested american sniper" to send a message to the jury in this case. >> there are some claims the defendant here did not see combat in service and he might not actually have been suffering from ptsd though it is a convenient narrative because of the movie. >> that said he could still be found to be insane. >> absolutely. there are a lot of people who never saw combat. i think it's also worth noting that there is going to be another theme in this trial, which is putting the va on trial. the defense is going to claim that the veterans administration which is not a particularly popular institution didn't give him the care he needed he deserved. it was really the va's fault, at least if part, for the untreated illness he had. >> that might resonate with the jury as well. >> that's how he came in the first place, kyle started some

say through his own therapeutic process to work with guys suffering from ptsd. >> i wanted to add. i think that is an enormously important point that maybe we don't focus on enough is that chad littlefield was also killed here which makes this crime so much worse and i feel for his family sometimes this is always referred to as the chris kyle case. >> a big test of sympathies. >> you make a great point. yet, texas not looking for the death penalty. >> that's unusual in texas. they're not shy about seeking the death penalty. i think there is afternoon understanding in texas that in this case because you are dealing with a war veteran and has maybe it doesn't rise to the level of a legitimate insanity defense, there are underlying mental illness issues involved.

>> there is a little told story here too. the death penalty in texas is way down. prosecutors are asking for eight lot less. jurors are imposeing a lot less. the death penalty is slowing down everywhere included in texas. >> thanks, so much for your expertise, tonight, be sure to watch our cnn special report. blockbuster, the story of an american sniper. we look at this story from every angle at 9:00 p.m. eastern. plets go to mikaela. >> you have a new high-tech car of yours may have all sorts of features. is it vulnerable to hackers? researchers looked al at several smart cars. find out if yours is hackable. wer cancer researchers. it used to take two weeks to sequence and analyze a genome; with the microsoft cloud we can analyze 100 per day. whatever i can do to help compute

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to get peace you have to defend your country. >> how long can putin sustain a war that he tells his people is not happening? >> president putin's got to make the decision -- >> we must provide defensive arms to ukraine. >> i am in solidarity with the syrian people. >> isis claims 28-year-old worker died in a jordanian air strike. >> how could they know it was a jordanian craft? >> i want to apologize. >> lester holt will be filling in for brian williams.

>> i would be very surprised if brian williams goes back to being the anchor of the nbc evening news. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo, alison and michele perata. >> uk is bugging to hold off the russians. what was a certainty is now a question. why? angela merkel is at the white house right now trying to convince president obama not to supply weapons fearing it could escalate the conflict. and giving two choices, to slow the fighting or continue talks. >> live in kiev fred what is this latest? >> reporter: alison certainly the government in kiev the

ukrainian government isn't very hopeful this peace agreement will come together. that's one of the reasons why they keep asking the u.s. to supply them with what they call defensive weapons, talking about anti-tank weapons, one of their main priorities but anything to do with electronic warfare to help them pinpoint positions they're being fired on from pro-russian separatists. quite frankly the ukrainian military is on the defensive and lost substantial territories in the country and fight ing that part of the country goes on. there was a guyigantic explosion in the town of donetsk when a weapons depot was hit by artillery. they are going along with trying to revive the cease-fire process in the bellyirussian capital and

they're going to try to revive that peace agreement and at least freeze the conflict for now. it's unclear what both sides want. certainly the russians want guarantees ukraine won't join nato. what sort of territories will the russian separatists get. >> will this wind up right to the doorstep of where you are at the capitol. while we talk people are dying and homes destroyed. over 5,000 lives lost communities blasted to the ground. we can now show you what that looks like. cnn senior international correspondent nick paton the first american journalist in a town east of ukraine leveled by the russian separatists. nick. >> reporter: here in the town you can see exactly what those heavy weapons have done to this town. that three story building two huge holes punched right through it.

clearly, it was once a ukraine defensive position. around me you can hear the outgoing fire of russian separatists continuing to advance towards the town a key objective to them. they want more after that. you can see the signs of devastation. armored personnel carrier over here the cameraman will pan towards slowly. literally, no building seems to have escaped the destruction here. we have seen some civilians who have come here trying to piece their life back together again. a whole nine story building has four or five huge holes in it. a couple of people trying to eke out a life and trying to use this one of the portals of violence to get back in. and the days ahead of peace talks in belarus and minsk where they will try to regain the

territory they want and improve their position at that negotiating table. >> powerful. important to remember people are trying to live amongst all that conflict. the question is will the obama administration send over lethal aid to kiev. michelle kosinski tracking the latest and the president said to be measuring whether that's a wise decision or not. >> reporter: hi. it will be telling today in this press conference in the meeting between president obama and angela merkel to see how unified they are in responding to russia. secretary of state john kerry insisted it is unified and remains strong. both the u.s. and europe emphasized for months how important that is. this could be a place where things diverge, because the u.s. now is considering arming ukraine. there have been increasing calls for that among lawmakers in this country. you have chancellor merkel and others still adamantly opposed.

we have heard increasingly tough language from u.s. officials regarding russia's behavior. months ago j it it was called an incursion, violation and a few days ago susan rice called it a heinous and deadly assault. now, it's wait and see what happens with the peace talk, wednesday before we're likely to see any change in any's response. michaela. >> michelle thank you so much. we will point out president obama will have live coverage between the chancellor's news conference at 11:00 a.m. we're fortunate to have jen psaki, spokeswoman for the state department. thank you for being here. >> good to be here. >> let's deal with matters of urgency. the american hostage being held by isis or whatever you want to call them jordan says we don't believe them. the isis people are saying she

died because of jordan's bombings. where is our intelligence the united states intelligence on this? >> we don't have any information to confirm what isis is claiming. i don't have any update for you. everybody is paying attention and our hearts and minds all focused on the family of this young woman. >> is there any reason to believe because it is a woman she may have a better chance than what we've seen in the past? >> i certainly wouldn't want to speculate on that. i would remind everybody isil has shown a level of brutality we haven't seen around the world in a long time. they've targeted children and women and people with disabilities and shown no mers. i we are certainly concerned with any american citizen they're holding. >> you understand for the family they're clinging to anything that could give some hope right now. >> i think everybody understands that chris. the secretary has two daughters himself and now a second

granddaughter as of this weekend and this has certainly been on his mind >> congratulations to him on the healthy expansion of his family. the situation on the ground. you need to have more and better ground fighters you know that. because we're learning the people on the ground fighting this fight often put tribeal loyalties first and defend their own. you get into arab tribes and the kurd kurdish peshmerga fighters reluctant to go in. >> we recognize under the previous leadership of malaki there was a great deal of division a lot of tribeal issues that take time to overcome that and move on. the prime minister has made great strides and great efforts to try to address that by bringing in the tribes by bringing in the sunni tribes underneath the iraqi security force. that takes time. we've seen some success.

in syria, the peshmerga, we've seen them fight back -- i wanted to mention this piece. we've seen the peshmerga fight back against isil. it certainly is not true. we have given them a great deal of assistance through the iraqi government. in syria, we have seen -- obviously, this is a difficult situation on the ground. we have the challenge of assad and the brutality he has inflicted on his people. we also have the challenge of isil. we're starting our train and equip program next month. that is coming up soon. we have done hundreds if not thousands of air strikes with our coalition partners and working to prepare op decision force there. in syria, you have parallel situation, our next topic, a guy perceived as a bad guy but most likely in control of the situation in syria. the parallel is what we're dealing with in ukraine, probably the most complex thing

you have to do now. vp vladimir putin has been running the show there. everybody knows that. he's been lying about it but lying the show. now ukrainian people saying we need help and german chancellor shaying, don't give it to them. what do you do? >> it's not as simple as that. we and many countries including germany increased assistance. we gave $118 million in non-lethal assistance which includes materials and the kind of assistance they need to have the equipment they need. we're making a decision right now about what additional assistance is appropriate. but it's not an easy -- an easy decision. nobody wants to have a proxy war with russia. what we're talking about now is defensive weapons. but we also want to see a diplomatic solution. you referenced there are ongoing talks happening. there was a phone call yesterday. there will be a meeting later this week. that plan is really based on and

consistent with the propertytocalls russia agreed to. we'll see what happens in paper. >> you kind of have seen it. you could basically say putin has made mincemeat out of it. he flouts it at every turn and you have your own in tell and better that shows you they're getting worked over on the ground. they need not just non-lethal. they need the real deal military assets to deal with this threat. how much time do you think you're dealing with before they get overrun. >> chris, i think we have to be a little bit careful here. what we don't want and what nobody in the global community wants is a proxy war with russia. i'm sure you're not suggesting anybody wants that. what we are trying to determine is how to change the behavior of president putin. we have seen fits and starts in that. you're right. they're actions are completely unacceptable. they've escalated that in recent

weeks. their economy is completely in turmoil. the question is what will change his behavior? more specifics? more implementation specifics? do we need to consider other options, we're absolutely having other options discussed right now. >> i'm saying we have the secretary and other senators moving to equip them and now the brakes have been put on by merkel and you have this figure out what the best path forward is and the stakes couldn't be higher. >> you're right. the stakes couldn't be higher. we all look at the suffering in the eastern part of ukraine and want to do everything we can to help and support them. it certainly is addressing the security situation and also addressing their economic situation which is dire as well. >> just so people know to the point you're making many believe the thing that hurts putin the most is the sanctions and the time opposed to having a ground fight that he can point to as a success for himself. we understand it's complicated.

that's why we like having you on to help us understand how you all are thinking it through. >> my pleasure. >> jen psaki, thank you very much. >> thank you. north korea launched five missiles east of pongyongyang and flew 105 miles before going into the sea. the country is developing missiles capable of reaching the u.s. and military weapons. a settlement is reportedly close to being approved by a federal judge to affect 20,000 nfl players. it would compensate players who developed dementia or neurological problems suffered during their careers. critics of the deal say the nfl should have to pay even more. look at this. 30 seconds of terror. a snowboard erer gets swallowed up

almost in an avalanche courtesy of a helmet cam. take a look. his name is soren. it looked to be like a routine run, right? then the snow starts coming down. it buckled, sends him down the mountain in romania. he is a snow sports instructor and volunteer rescuer. he said he only survived because he didn't panic. it's interesting. you do not hear him. i don't know if maybe you couldn't hear him because it's just a gopro. boy oh boy that's where your skills are put to death life or death. >> i've never seen the snow buckle like that before an avalanche. scary. speaking of buried in snow boston getting hammered again. another foot possible in this latest storm, flights canceled at logan airport. cnn, sara is in boston. where are you?

>> reporter: alisyn i'm in this beacon hill in boston that is inundated in snow. not just fresh snow. 8 inches fallen since yesterday. 55 inches already fallen to the ground from previous storms. flights are cancelled at boston airport, that's what the governor of massachusetts said a few minutes ago. we expect the snow to continue to pick up through the day and by the morning tomorrow when people wake up there could be an additional 2 feet of snow on the ground on top of the storms we've already had. the big issue in this neighborhood are these giant snowbanks, piles of snow getting bigger and bigger as these storms come back to back to back. looking down this street look how narrow it's become because of these snowbanks. some are cars completely covered. this has caused a safety problem because when you're driving on these streets, it's really hard to see what's coming around the corner and hard when you're walking to stay on the sidewalk.

a lot of people walking to work in the middle of the street a safety concern. one of the biggest issues the mayor of boston said about snow removal, private contractors, i'm not sure if you can see there's one there doing exactly what the mayor said not to do dumping snow back into the streets after they've been plowed. one of the bigger safety concerns are fire hydrants. the mayor is asking people to dig out their fire hydrants. we saw one person do that this morning. these are cleared and this is well above the fire hydrant, a safety concern. >> sara those cars behind you on walnut street don't look like they're getting out until about may. thanks so much for showing us around beacon hill this morning. being gay is a choice much like drinking and swearing that comparison from former arkansas governor mike huckabee what he says about gay marriage his new book and his possible run for

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weapons to help fight the rebels. joining us is former arkansas governor and possible gop presidential contender, mike huckabee and author of the new book "god guns grits and gravy." governor great to see you. >> thank you, alisyn great to see you again. thanks for having me. >> lethal aid being sent to ukraine, president obama has not yet done that and our european allies are asking him not to do that because they fear that will only cause an escalation. what should the president do? >> he's in a tough spot in one position because ukraine is outmanned by the russians 80-1 in terms of military strength. russia has that much superiority over the ukrainians. so we can't give the ukrainians enough military aid to make it a fair fight. i think the president has to weigh that. you know what are we going to give them that really makes this

where putin stands down zplrchts the truth is nothing. butin has his own problems. it's very apparent putin has his own problems. it's very apparent one of the problems he's trying to do at home is slighteight of hand magician move that he's rewriting history and that the soviet collapsed because of pressure from the west. that's not true and they collapsed from within and on the verge of collapsing again because their economy is so in trouble. the europeans don't seem to want to put the right pressure on him because they depend on russia for energy. what we need is a really strong super power and there isn't one because the u.s. has left itself in a very weakened position. >> if you were in the oval office what would you do about this threat today? >> the problem we face it's not something you can just flip the

switch. we american people have been weakened by sequestration, multiple deployments, less than 1% of our people serve ing the military. putin knows we can flex whatever muscle we have but it's a weakened threat that we now operate with. a super power, to be effective, to be able to stand up and make a threat has to be able to stand behind the threat and putin knows we are simply incapable of doing it military because of the footprint we have and we don't have the will to do it even if we had the military strength. >> governor it sounds like you're saying there is no solution to what's going on in ukraine now. >> well i think the solution is to put as much economic pressure on the russians as possible. try to flood information to the russian people. there's not, i don't think what i'd say a clear military solution because it could escalate. in that situation, if it's russia versus the ukrainians russia is going to win.

80 times the military strength. and nobody europe u.s. is not going to put enough military pressure to say, we'll totally protect. in the meantime 5300 ukrainians have already died. that's a serious challenge. putin is not afraid of the u.s. he's not afraid of the europeans. one of the ways you have to defeat someone who is a bully is he has to be more afraid of you than you are of him. that's just not where we stand now. it's a long term solution not something we can do overnight >> it sounds like it. let's talk about your new book. "god guns grits and gravy." let's dive into the more controversial parts you've been talking about including your stance on gay marriage. let me try to characterize what i got from reading it. basically, you're saying that the bible doesn't condone homosexuality so neither do you. is that accurate? >> look here's the thing.

my position on same sex marriage is the same the president had in 2008 when he said he was a christian and he believed god was in the mix. he changed his position three years later and one has to ask, did he do it because it was politically expedient or did he do it because the bible had changed since his biblical view since 2008. all i'm saying my biblical view hasn't changed because i haven't seen the new and edited version and i think a lot of people have. more importantly i think is the fact that a lot of people feel they are under assault because of their christian beliefs whether it's the little sisters of the poor who are being challenged by the obamacare initiative whether it's hobby lobby, a privately held business that proichesvides insurance to its employees yet under threat to be shut down and fined millions of dollars a day because they don't want to provide all 20 of the various birth control pills even

though they provide 16. that's the bigger issue, i think, that's facing america today. >> but governor let me show you some of the recent polls in terms of gay marriage because so many people are interested in your take on this and what you would do as president. it shows that the country's feeling about it has morphed. from 2001 the people who opposed gay marriage was 57% of the country versus 40%. now, it's 40%. people who support it in 2001 was 35% and now 52%, a majority. in terms of your stance on gay marriage do you feel as though you're on the wrong side of history? >> when you say the wrong side of history, let's just be reminded there's been a relatively and i mean a very relatively brief history of same sex marriage. the overwhelming history is the natural law marriage biblical marriage. i don't think there's a side of history that's overwhelm k at this point. >> the trend line.

>> i think the next presidential election -- let me say, alisyn i think the next presidential election will not center on a view of same sex marriage it's going to come down to who has a plan to make sure that the stagnant wages for the bottom 90% of america, for the past 40 years, well be reversed and we'll start seeing families anger money earning money again, i don't care if people are straight or gay, but they want to have the american dream again until the economy is better. >> are uyou entering the presidential race? snoo>> let me say i said all along the timetable is later this spring. it still is. i don't think it will be a big shock to anybody if i jump in the fray and once again run for president in 2016. >> all right. so it sounds like you're leaning

towards a yes. >> i'd say that's a pretty good assessment where things stand, that's for sure. >> former arkansas governor mike huckabee. great to see you, governor. thanks for being on "new day." >> thank you, alisyn. good to talk to you. >> >>. brian williams is taking a leave of absence after more of his reporting comes under scrutiny. what now for the veteran journalist? cars are so smart and now hackers have found a way to get into your data and steal your car. what you can do ahead.

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history. oftentimes consumers are not aware of that. we should point out automakers did sign an agreement to better inform customers of information collected. this report out this morning says it doesn't go far enough when we talk about protecting driver's personal information. >> so i have to worry about thieves, meter maids and hackers with my car. >> that's right. >> thank you. time for the five things to know for your new day. german chancellor angela markel will ask president obama to resist calls to send equipment to ukraine and give the negotiations a chance. and a hostage family pleading to isis when isis said she was killed in a jordanian

air strike. boston bearing the were you not of a winter storm and parts could see another 2 feet of snow through tuesday. jeh johnson warning the republican led congress 30,000 home security personnel could face furlough if it doesn't approve the department's funding by the end of the month. the big winner at the 57th grammy awards. smith won for the best records of the year and another award went to beck. urging prime minister benjamin netanyahu to scrap a plan. will this cause an even bigger wedge? ah won't see him reporting for a few days as brian williams faces scrutiny. will the veteran journalist return to his newscast?

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prime minister benjamin net na netanyahu is being asked to restrain his address to congress. could the tension actually benefit iran? that's the main question? let's bring in a former advisor to six secretaries of state on arab israeli peace negotiations and vice president of the woodrow wilson international center. mr. miller always a pleasure to have you on. please help make us better on this topic. do you think netanyahu should decline the invitation? >> the guy is in a box. if he comes he will demonstrate there is a freeze between the israel relationship. he won't get a meeting at the white house. that's the problem with coming.

frankly, he's not going to change the administration's point of view or congress's when it comes to the end state of these negotiations with iran. if he doesn't come he's going to be accused by his supporters and by his adversaries, frankly, of creating a real hash in the u.s.-israeli relationship and having achieved nothing on an issue critically important to him. the reality is he's in a box. i would bet, unless there is some legitimate security-related issue he probably will come. at least as of yesterday he had every determination and expressed it he intended to address congress the first week of march. >> except that one line that came out of the israeli side i don't know what level of government it was, suggesting they had thought the invitation was issued by both sides of the aisle, that everybody was on board with this suggesting maybe there was a little duplicity at player. maybe that gives him and out.

we will see if that gives him an out. let's talk about the policy consideration. the risk is israel and strains relations. how does it impact the iranian relations? has the u.s. ever needed iran more than it does right now if you look at the different fronts it's weighing in. >> the united states clearly believes it does. it's at the nexus everything washington cares about. syria, iraq support for hezbollah, hamas. you have the possibility the administration has banked quite a lot on the nuclear deal as the key to over time resolving these other issues. iranian agenda is a different one. i'm not sure even a deal on nukes will fundamentally alter iran's strategy which frankly is

at odds with ours on rank andiraq and ours, too. >> i have been coming to you for some time. there's no "their" with them. am i off? is something being negotiated? >> i think something is real. the problem is the framework within which we're operating is one that even a good deal over time could end up being a bad deal. we've conceded iran's right to enrich uranium. we've conceded the possibility when this agreement expires the iranians are free to do whatever they want including to produce an industrial grade enrichment facility capability. even a good deal frankly -- and a deal isn't going to do much politically for the president either. this is an hobsian choice i think, a deal or risk the consequences of no deal which who knows, could be a drift towards further tensions and

maybe more. >> hobsian choice or faustian bargain? we'll leave this for coffee. putin running roughshod over ukraine, seeming not to be able to be motivated by any power conflict there with the president. what's going on with netanyahu. what's going on with iran is it fair criticism to say this is all proof of president obama's foreign agenda failing, his perception of power failing? >> i think it's fair to say this is not 1945 to 1950 where the united states was the dominant power power, truly both in europe in asia to a large degree and in the middle east. times have changed. and, frankly, there are real limitations on what the united states can do. i don't buy this leading from behind business but i do think that you've got an interesting situation. george w. bush perhaps was too

risk ready in hipss foreign policy. maybe barack obama is too risk adverse. the real challenge for the next republican or democrat can find the right balance between risk aversion on one hand and risk readiness on the other and there perhaps can find the next successful american strategy. >> times have changed. but aaron david miller through six secretaries of state you've been addressing the same issues. thank you for the benefit of your perspective. appreciate it as always. all right. brian williams is taking a leave of absence from his news show. will he survive this firestorm? goo the bad?" so we gave people the power of the review. and now angie's list is revolutionizing local service again. you can easily buy and schedule services from top-rated providers. conveniently stay up to date on progress. and effortlessly turn your photos

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criticism of brian williams is getting louder following revelations the host of nbc "nightly news" embellished on the iraq war by falsely claiming he was on a helicopter that took fire. the person that was shot at expressed sadness for his reason to exaggerate. >> it saddens me you have so many other combat journalists in that type of situation, seeing those things happen and more than likely they probably don't tell the story like that you know.

with embellishment. >> brian williams is backing out of an appearance with david letterman and announced he is taking time off from "nightly news." how soon might he be back if at all. guess who else is here. frank sesno, director of the school of media and public affairs at george washington university. gentlemen, great to have you here. last hour we were talking about this vulture culture. i feel like you might want to tap the breaks and maybe scale it for us. you make the point he didn't plagiarize. he didn't falsely create a source source he didn't outright lie on camera. there was some massaging of truths. >> it's the old man of the sea and been catching fish. the ones he's telling us about are bigger than the ones he caught maybe. in journalism to our students in

the job you do. we talk about proportionality. how big is the story? how loud do we scream? how bold is the headline. we have to have proportionality when someone steps out of line like this. what brian williams apparently did was feather the nest of his story and his life rather liberally. and now he's paying the price. i saw something this morning. >> proportionately paying the price or no? >> we don't know yet. we don't know what else is out there. this morning i was reading there was some question about was he mugged as he said he was when he was selling christmas trees in the 1970s. every word he has uttered is open for examination. if it gets worse it gets worse >> my wife was the first one to use the phrase "vulture culture." there's sort of a trial by twitter that happens these days. there's a reason why it happens. people feel they've been lied a long time by lots of people

including the iraq war. here we are mitigating one piece of the iraq war on a mission brian williams was on but exaggerated over time and there's a reason why people are reacting the way they are when they've been lied to. >> especially when you're job is to tell the truth. when hilary clinton says i was shot at in bosnia. maybe there was a fishtail there. the public expects public officials to embellish the truth and not journalists. >> when you're a main anchor your one currency is your credibility. that's what you now have. if his credibility is called into question can he go back and do his job the same as a couple weeks ago? >> it's going to be hard seeing him sitting at the desk doing what he's always done. a lot of viewers, fans of this aren't following this the way we as journalists are. i do wonder if the viewers will turn on the tv tonight at 6:30 like i do and turn on nbc and

see lester holt and wish brian was there. ratings will mean a lot. >> who is judging is also a part of the mix here. hopefully, what you're saying i don't know hopefully or not if people aren't as attune topped this as we that goes to another phrase of frank's proportionality and also hip hypocrisy. do you think the media is holding it too much and holding him to a standard god forbid they don't get held to themselves. >> the day of the walter con cite anchor is gone. the idea he's the only truth teller in the land is not true. the idea the media are piling on somebody else from the media is true. that's a feeding frenzy. on the other hand the media should apply the same amount of scrutiny to those in the media they apply to any other institution. the answer is we live in an age of feeding frenzies.

whether it's the bruce jenner story or this story or what have you, we have these kind of peaks, eruptions of attention. this is one of them. when you live totally in the public eye and you have a paycheck as big as brian williams does which is about what you're paid i think. [ laughter ] >> we need to talk. that's just going to happen. at some level it should. we need to ask ourselves as a culture have we sell hebceleb brified ourselves into hyperspace. >> there's this culture of journalism i don't know where it began but it proves to be problematic. >> i was about to say, in my dreams. that's part of the issue, right? if we're going to pay anchors $10 million a year and expect them to be everything and be gods basically, is that a wrong thing? >> then you have the other role of the network. on the other hand the network says be a journalist be a

trusted face of news. they started running a whole new set of promos about brian, how trusted he is. meanwhile the pr network saying jon stewart, go david letterman, go be out there and be a personality and on "30 rock" things you as a pure journalist would never do. >> they're also having their own people talk about the situation. you can say frank sesno is a friend of mine so i won't give you a completely unbiased opinion but give you something to believe the way you believe everything else i tell you, a little dicey. maybe for our friends at morning joe because joe is not a journalist. >> there was a full defense of brian williams as a person. joe also says he think nobody can be held to this standard of perfection. i'm not sure i agree with that. if you're telling a story about iraq that's been exaggerated over and over through the years we should hold you to a standard you're not going to do that.

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