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and dads sons and daughters, and the battles that continue when they come home especially the plague of pts. so if you want you can forget the politics of the film but please do not forget what matters most -- helping our troops. and thank you for watching. "cnn tonight" with don lemon begins right now. we just saw the real life drama of "american sniper" chris kyle. there's a lot more to the story. the jury has been seated in a trial set to begin wednesday. the hot topic in hollywood is whether the movie "american sniper" can take oscar gold in two weeks. but in a texas courtroom, 12 jurors will have to put all that out of their minds, if they can, as they consider the fate of a man charged with killing chris kyle. will there be justice for chris kyle? plus who's to blame for bruce jenner's fatal car crash?
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and is speculation getting in the way of the truth? also whitney houston's daughter fighting for her life in a hospital. we'll speak with her best friend. and a hand book for joining isis the shocking shopping list for would-be jihadists. i want to begin with the life and tragic death of an american sniper chris kyle. >> reporter: if you live in texas, chances are you've heard of chris kyle. in in fact the story of chris kyle has reached legendary status across the country. the navy seal is considered the deadliest sniper in u.s. military sniper, with at least 160 confirmed skills over four tours of duty in iraq. >> i'm ready. >> reporter: "american sniper" is a huge hit at movie theaters across the country. now the highest grossing war film ever earning more than $300 million, and it's nominated for six academy awards including best picture, and best actor. but chris kyle's life from rodeo
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and ranches to war hero doesn't have a hollywood ending. kyle and his wife made no secret of how their marriage almost fell apart after he returned home from war. it's what inspired kyle to devote so much of his time and energy to helping other veterans transition back to everyday life. in february of 2013 kyle and his friend chad littlefield brought a marine suffering from pts to the rough creek lodge and resort. they take him to a gun range so they can talk and bond. but ralph turned the guns on the two men who were trying to help him. police say ralph left the scene in kyle's pickup truck and drove to his sister's house right after the killings. >> my brother just came by here he told me that he's committed a murder. >> who did he say he had killed? >> he said that he killed two guys. they went to a shooting range. like he's all crazy.
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he's [ bleep ] psychotic. >> he's expected to plead not guilty. he served on a tour much duty in iraq and a humanitarian mission to earthquake victims in haiti. he made several visits to the v.a. hospital in dallas and spent the two years before the killings in and out of treatment for mental health issues. there's a book called the enemy within. the author said before the shooting ralph turned to his mother desperate for help. >> clearly they feel like he could have gotten better care. had he gotten better care she would not have approached chris kyle. she only did it as an act of desperation. >> ralph's murder trial will unfold in stevenville, texas. chris kyle went to college here in the early 1990s. he's such a legend in his home state, that the second anniversary of his death was
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declared chris kyle day by the texas governor. but that popularity has eddy ralph's attorney saying the trial should be moved. the judge in the case has denied that request. after three days of screening jurors the jury is set to hear the case. the panel is ten women and two men. opening statements will begin wednesday morning. >> reporter: and don, the jury in this case will not be sequestered. they were instructed not to watch any coverage or pay attention to anything that's said about this. and if their friends ask them if they're serving on the jury avoid those types of conversations. this trial is expected to last between two and three weeks. >> what about the people who will not serve as jurors? what are people there saying to you about this trial? >> reporter: you know i think it's a lot like this kind of intensity for a town this size and this kind of intense publicity surrounding this case
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is obviously something that many people around here are talking about, but, you know opinions mixed about what to make of the situation and what to make of the defendant in this case eddy ray ralph, like many people and they say they've watched this transpire over the last two years, they're waiting to see what's going to happen and what kind of testimony will emerge through the process. >> thank you very much. now i want to bring in brandon webb former navy seal who trained chris kyle. also the co-author of the book "american sniper" which the movie is based on. i want to ask you this jim. you heard ed say in the last program, he is a legend in stevenville. "american sniper" is the most popular, best-selling war movie ever. you co-authored it. what do you make of the judge saying if you've read the book and seen the movie, that doesn't
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automatically disqualify you as a juror? >> i don't think that's surprising because so many people have seen the movie or read the book. if we always cut it off that -- if you know something about the person that you can't be a juror, then no famous person could ever have justice. so the jurors when they go into the jury room they have to try to put that all out of their mind and be objective. >> people are questioning, critics are questioning kyle's choice to go to a gun range, with someone who is suffering from pts d? >> my personal opinion is that this guy wasn't suffering from post-traumatic stress. he was obviously mentally disturbed, with a history of him being hospitalized but veterans helping veterans is one of the best ways to cope with post-traumatic stress. the shooting range and shooting is a familiar thing, whether
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it's basketball players going to shoot hoops on the basketball court. it's a very similar situation, a very comfortable area to have a one-on-one conversation. and i think that was chris' objective. >> did he talk to you about that? >> well chris didn't. but i happen to know that the selection of that range is also significant, because about an hour and a half each way from where lived. i think it was -- chris was actually hoping, as he often did, to talk to the young man on the way there and on the way back. and the episode at the shooting range was almost insignificant. it's the ride where you build up the camaraderie. >> he also talked to you about his troubles returning to civilian life didn't he? >> absolutely. i think it was a transition. and pts, or ptsd is a very specific condition, and i wouldn't necessarily jump to the conclusion that that's going to be you know the diagnosis
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here. >> do you think it should be taken into consideration here? >> i think that we're going to have to -- the mental state is pretty much going to be what the trial decides. so we'll hear from the experts. i wouldn't jump to conclusions. >> do you think it should be taken into consideration? >> the post-traumatic stress? >> yes. >> from what i know about him, he served overseas but not in a direct combat role. so the history and all the facts in the case that i've seen is the guy has been hospitalized for a mental condition. he was arrested for threatening to kill members of his family. so to me clearly not post-traumatic stress this individual has a severe mental -- >> if ptsd is taken into consideration that it's going to affect people's impressions of soldiers? >> absolutely. that's a big concern. when you look at the thousands of combat veterans that are transitioning out of service right now, the majority of these individuals are transitioning
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and doing very positive things in the community. and when i look at the tragedy of the situation with chris, you know what would -- what lesson would chris want us to learn from this? it's that we do need to take care of these veterans that are returning from horrible places like iraq and afghanistan. >> i want to ask you about some of the sisters that have come under question about chris kyle supposedly has told. it's not in your book. but i want to ask you about them. a former minnesota governor jesse ventura, the other about new orleans, as a sniper. supposedly he shot 30 or so looters. it's not part of the book, but what do you think? >> i focus on chris kyle and during the sniper course we came closer when we were out of the military. i look at chris as a man, served four tours in iraq two silver
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stars, four bronze stars, by all means, an american hero. when i judge him by the facts and his actions, i try not to speculate on the other stories. because the fact is chris is an american hero. >> does the truthfulness of these stories change anything you think about chris? >> not at all. >> what about you? >> absolutely not. just following up on what brandon said not only was he a hero on the battlefield. he was also a hero to a lot of individuals who he took on a truck ride or whom he talked or helped get some aid from the v.a. he also raised two kids. >> chris and i had those conversations about transition. >> do you think this movie, which is so popular now, do you think it adequately accurately depicts life as a sniper? >> i think bradley cooper did an amazing job depicting chris in iraq in that setting, a very specific setting, but i think he
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nailed it as far as what chris went through in iraq? >> tim? >> yeah absolutely. bradley's performance there is superb. obviously, to get the whole story, there's a lot more to it. there's a lot more. i mean the book has more of t but there's even more and you have to have a lot of different stories. >> i know you'll be paying attention to the trial expected to begin on wednesday, and lasting at least two weeks. make sure you tune in and we'll be covering it all. thank you both. will "american sniper" sweep the oscars? a countdown to hollywood's biggest night has begun. join me with cnn's michaela pereira at 6:00 p.m. eastern and after the awards we have you covered, all-access pass to the a-list parties, plus all the memorable moments, our especially "and the winner is" starts right after. so make sure you tune in. when we come back, whitney
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bruce jenner says he's cooperating with los angeles police who are investigating a multivehicle accident that killed a 69-year-old woman.
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cnn stephanie elam joins us now. he was involved in the accident over the weekend. what's the latest? >> what we know about this accident now, the woman who died her name is kim howe she's 69 years old. we know she was driving the white lexus. we understand there was already an accident in front of the lexus. and bruce jenner coming down in his black suv, with an suv behind it hit that white lexus, causing it to veer into oncoming traffic whether it was hit by the hummer h-2. the five members of the family in the hummer were taken to a hospital examined and sent home after that. we also know that when you take a look at this accident that it was so devastating here.
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we understand that right after the accident bruce jenner actually volunteered to be tested and was taken by deputies straight from the scene to a local hospital where he donated blood. he also put out a statement yesterday about this. he said quote, it's a devastating tragedy and i cannot pretend to imagine what this family is going through at this time. i am praying for them. don? >> many folks were wondering if texting factored into this crash, or perhaps the paparazzi may have contributed in some way. any truth to any of this? >> the sheriff's department is saying that no the texting is something they'll look into with the phone. but the paparazzi were there, that's a constant normal for someone like bruce jenner who lives his life on tv as the patriarch of keeping up with the kardashians. but they were not chasing them. they are looking at the phone
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records of all four drivers involved. the three drivers who survived are cooperating, including jenner who's already turned over his phone records as well. and just want to play a little bit of sound here from the sergeant from the los angeles sheriff's department about how long this investigation can take. take a listen. >> it's going to take quite a bit of time to analyze all the evidence all the vehicles have been impounded for examination to look for mechanical defects and things of that nature. and it could take up to six months before a final determination of fault, if any, is made in this case. >> reporter: and that's the key part here don, it's not clear at all if there is going to be any sort of criminal charges here. it's going to take a long time to go through that to look at the cars. but what we can say is that bruce jenner is cooperating, going ahead and doing the blood test giving up his phone records and also putting out the statement. so everyone playing their part but still a big tragedy here
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when you see there's a loss of life of this one 69-year-old woman. >> stephanie, thanks. let's delve into the legal ramifications. lisa bloom from afo.com. and also mark geragos. attorney and cnn analyst. good evening to both of you. when a celebrity is involved in a fatal impact how does that affect the investigation going forward? >> well obviously the police pay a little bit more attention. it gets heightened scrutiny any time you have the media involved in a case. that means people are going to be looking at it analyzing it and you're going to have all kinds of extra added attention. the fact that mr. jenner cooperated immediately, had the blood drawn and they're going to do a tox screen to make sure that there was no alcohol or drugs in the system is helpful
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to him. but at the same time even though it may take up to six months as the sheriff was saying for them to determine who was at fault, i think it's probably a foregone conclusion you will see civil lawsuits filed well before that six-month date. >> you have a source close to this case. what have they told you about this investigation? >> well they initially -- any time you have a fatality the sheriff's department or the chp, whoever the investigating agency is is always going to open up a manslaughter investigation. the first and foremost focus is going to be on is there alcohol or drugs involved? because if there is then you're looking at felonies whether or not they're going to charge it as a felony manslaughter vehicular manslaughter or in some cases, a watson murder. what's been reported so far, it does not appear that's where
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it's headed. but that doesn't mean whoever they ultimately determined is at fault is out of risk because in california at least, if you commit a infraction. so meaning, if you're speeding if you're following too closely. if you're texting, that can be the predicate for a misdemeanor manslaughter, which all it takes is a violation of an infraction of vehicle code section, and a death, and then that gets you to a misdemeanor prosecution. >> but, lisa by every indication right now, it appears that this was an accident. but investigators are looking at all angles of this. what evidence would police need to bring a vehicular manslaughter charge? >> we want to know was bruce jenner under the influence of any medication prescription or otherwise. was there texting involved?
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was he driving at an excessive rate of speed? and by the way, i'm only using the male pronoun because he hasn't officially announced that he's transgender. all of that is going to be looked at very, very carefully. >> you know lisa paparazzi cameras capture the moment that bruce jenner before the accident the moment he hit the lexus in front of him. the l.a. sheriff's department says there's no indication that the paparazzi contradictedibuted to the crash, but if you were his attorney would you rule out their involvement -- possible involvement in this crash? >> i think mark will agree with me that we should not take as conclusive something that law enforcement says at the scene. we don't know for sure. but there's a heck of a lot of photos of this incident. who took those photos? paparazzi. obviously they were there. the fact that they have been there on many other occasions with bruce jenner is irrelevant to me. they were there for princess diana and they contributed to
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her death. so i want to know, were they following at an excessive rate of speed, were they following closely, were they harassing him? if i'm representing bruce jenner, i want all of the facts and circumstances, because i want to apportion liability on the civil side. which means, i want to show that other people in addition to or instead of bruce jenner are the ones who are responsible here. >> lisa bloom, and mark geragos, thank you. up next, whitney houston's daughter bobbi kristina brown, is in a medically induced coma ever since she was found face down in her bathtub at her home. i'll talk exclusively with her father bobby brown's best friend. trained a little bit differently. a little too honest sometimes. the media is useless. you were out of control. but not always.
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tonight a prayer vigil near atlanta for bobbi kristina brown. whitney houston's daughter has been hospitalized since being found face down in a bathtub full of water ten days ago. joining me now in an exclusive interview, johnny gill member of new edition and best friends with bobbi kristina's father. i want to listen to what he told
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fans last night in atlanta. >> tonight i'm performing for you, but tonight i'm going to give you this one for bobbi kristina. so when i perform tonight, we going to do this one for her tonight. >> johnny gill we appreciate you joining us tonight. you're close friends with bobby brown. you collaborated with him on your new album. i know you're continually speaking with the family. any update on or improvement to tell us about bobbi kristina's condition? >> well you know everybody is staying hopeful, obviously, and i speak with bobby pretty regularly. there's been some little improvements here and there, but ultimately when you put it in
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perspective, it's really about -- she's fighting. and she's strong. that's the one thing that has been -- that bobbi hasy has been talking about, and the one thing he's hanging his hopes on is that she's a fighter, and she's fighting. >> almost three years to the day of her mom's death in a very similar fashion. no parent should have to go through what bobby brown is facing right now. how is bobby doing? how's the rest of the family doing? >> you know bobby's doing about as good as i think any parent could do in this situation. i mean you know you just -- you know i don't think no parent can even imagine being in this position as a parent with your child. but, you know he's hanging in there and being strong for the family and doing what he has to
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do as a father. so we just -- and i think with the family everybody's just asking everyone to continue to lift her up in prayer and understand that you know this is a family that's going through a crisis and it's been so much stuff thrown all over the place, and you hear so many different things. i've said before that it's important to understand that with the family when the family's ready to speak and give out some information, they will. and until then it's just important that this is not -- you know, for anybody's entertainment purposes. this is a young lady who is fighting for her life and i think that everyone has to be cognizant of that and understand that you know i know the family appreciate all the well-wishers and all the support that everyone has given. and we know that people -- everyone is rooting for her. but we just have to sit and this
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is a sit and wait game right now. >> and many families have gone through this. it's horrible to sit and wait and not know. you mentioned, there are so many things out there and i know it's not an easy time to talk about it but cnn has learned from a close family friend that bobbi kristina has unexplained injuries on her body and also investigators are focusing on bobbi kristina's boyfriend or common law husband nick gordon as they try to determine how she ended up face down in a bathtub. can you shed some light on any of this for us? >> well we're going to leave that to the authorities and allow them to do their jobs. and we got to sit and see what comes out of that. but at the end of the day, right now, we're concerned -- i know i am and the family and everyone is concerned about bobbi kristina continuing to fight for her life. that's what's most important right now for everyone.
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>> it cannot be made worse, it's a terrible situation, but it is as i mentioned earlier, almost three years to the day of the anniversary of whitney's passing. how is the family handling that anniversary? it's already a solemn time for that and this compounds that. >> well, you know there's nothing, i think, that anyone can do. this is beyond any of our control, when you put it in perspective. life brings on these challenges that we all have to deal with. and no one's exempt from the challenges that life brings on. and what we have to do is, we have to face them head on and deal with them and continue to try to dwet through the challenges that life brings on. so how they feeling, i think they feel like anybody else would feel when you're going through a situation that a loved one's life is on the line. when you have lost a loved one, that's never -- it's a hard pill to swallow. and it's hard for anyone that
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loves someone to have to deal with and accept the fact that they're no longer here. so they're just a family that's going through what family's go through, and we have to allow them that time and space and privacy to do so because, you know they're grieving like anyone else. you know so. >> i want to put up this video, from a vigil held earlier tonight. a lot of people showing their love and support. and we saw cici houston at the hospital. i know tyler perry has gone as well. but who else? >> i don't know. beyond mostly it's just been the family and they've been trying to keep that just amongst the family and i think that's where it belongs. it's important that we understand that this is not a show and this is not a concert, this is not, you know an awards show. this is just about a young lady in the hospital fighting for her life. and i'm sure there's so many
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people that want to go and see her, but this is about the prayers. that's what we need. that's what the family wants. >> and the family gave you permission to do this interview. was there any message they wanted to send? >> no and the family did not give me permission to do this interview. bobby's the one that i've worked with and bobby's the one that i'm obviously very close to. and i just felt like and feel like i know everyone is sitting and speculating and throwing rocks and stones at him based on his movements and what he's doing and what he didn't do, and how come he's this and it's like, hey, this is a father that's got a child that's fighting for her life and at some point, we have to sit back and get back to the shenanigans a little later when it comes down to the entertainment about what you think about him, how you should do how he should walk how he should talk what he should do. >> and whether he should get back on stage. because as i said earlier, you
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collaborated with him on your album changer -- >> game-changer. >> -- game-changer, and he's a. approximate performer at heart. so is there anything in the song that talks about dealing with the issues that bobby's had to deal with? >> no. no this is just -- this is the song game-changer is just a song that we did as new edition. and this has nothing personal to do with anything personal besides we talk about and sing about life experiences, relationships. some of it is part of our livings, from our friends' lives. that's just being as writers and singers and producers and creators we just come and tell stories. we're story-tellers. and some of it has to do with our lives and some of it is stuff that people can truly
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identify with. >> johnny gill thank you very much. our best to the family okay? >> thank you. >> thank you. coming up our team of expert judges weigh in on bobbi kristina on that case, what they think of the investigation so far. introducing the first-ever lexus nx turbo and hybrid. once you go beyond utility there's no going back. ready for another reason to switch to t-mobile?, how about getting america's best unlimited 4g lte family plan. get 2 lines of unlimited 4g lte data... for just a hundred bucks a month with any smartphone, including the samsung galaxy note 4 for zero down. add more family members for just $40 bucks a pop. think the other guys have a family plan like this? think again! finally, it's full speed 4g lte data that really is unlimited.
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welcome back let's talk more because there are lots of unanswered questions about bobbi kristina brown and how she ended up face down in a bathtub at her home. i want to get our judges to weigh in. joining me now, the host of the judge hatchet show and judge lesley crocker snider a former new york state supreme court justice. thank you for joining me this evening. a source close to bobbi kristina's family told cnn that she has injuries that still need to be explained. a different source said investigators are focusing on her boyfriend nick gordon has they investigate how she ended up face down in a tub full of water. the man who found her is asking for immunity before speaking with officers. what are investigators looking for right now? >> well they're going to see, one, if these bruises, any foul
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play because that's really what they're looking for, don. they're trying to determine was there foul play? how did she end up in this bathtub full of water? and did any of their actions contribute to her being in the horrible situation that she's in now? so i find it very interesting, don, that the guy who was with nick is asking for immunity before he speaks. so that may tell us volumes about the situation. >> that's what i want to ask you. why would they even be considering granting him immunity? >> if that's their only source of information, then they really don't have a choice. unfortunately, a lot of law enforcement is built upon turning witnesses and giving witnesses immunity. even saw that in the gotti case. >> does that mean that he has some information that would lead to foul play or he's the only witness? >> he's the only witness, but it suggests to me that he knows something, because if there's
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nothing that's incriminating, why would he seek to get immunity before he speaks to the officials? so i think we'll see some interesting things come out of this whole investigation. >> i want to turn now to the fatal car crash involving bruce jenner. the sheriff's department says the, is being vskted as a traffic accident involving a fatality. it was a four-car accident. what are investigators looking for? >> well they're going to examine all the vehicles. they're going to get phone records, which they hadn't gotten initially, cell phone records, to see if people were texting while they're driving, which is sometimes difficult to tell but certainly they'll get some information that way. and they're going to want to see if there are any issues about drinking or drugs. and in fact, jenner's cooperated fully. he did the field sobriety exercises and they really show whether you have your equilibrium and balance and the cops will be looking to see if you smell of alcohol, if you're
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high, if your eyes are blood shot. he passed those. agreed to a blood test which i gather was given immediately, which is important. and he's cooperating. so thus far, all signs seem to be that this was really an accident not of his causation. however they'll look further into this and see if anyone was criminally responsible, because the first thing is is there any kind of vehicular manslaughter issue involved? the other aspect is the civil aspect and the cops have no control over that. >> does it matter that the los angeles times is reporting that the victim kim howe hadn't had a valid driver's license since 2007. how does that impact the rights of her family if at all, judge hatchet? >> i don't think so. if she doesn't do anything to contribute to it it's not a good situation, but if someone triggered this accident which it appears happens, and she was forced into another lane and subsequently killed i think
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that she still has -- her family still has a basis for a civil action in this matter. in addition to the criminal investigation. >> i think you can be absolutely sure that would be an issue raised against her suit because, of course the fact that she didn't have a license does rise to some level of suspicion. however, it could be unfounded, that she may not have been able to drive properly. so i think it's an issue. it could be a contributory negligence issue. i don't know. >> i want to get to chris kyle the trial for the man accused of killing chris kyle and littlefield as well. the jury has been seated in that murder case. ten women, two men. are any one of you surprised at the makeup of the jury judge? >> i'm totally shocked that the jury was selected so quickly, i think there are going to be a lot of serious appellate issues issues on appeal if this man is found guilty which there seems
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to be a strong likelihood. so i'm shocked not at the makeup, which, you know could happen. and there doesn't appear to be a racial component in this case because he's white and the jury is white. but i really am surprised that the judge didn't give more time to consider a change of venue from this county. >> because he's a hero. he's a legend in that county. >> look he's a wonderful guy, i think he's an american hero but -- >> i got to get your response judge, i'm running out of time. >> just quickly, i would say to you the change of venue request, i agree, may be basis for appeal. but i think it's very interesting that 19 people were already struck from the jury pool by this judge because they said i cannot make a fair assessment because i've either seen the movie or read the book. but he doesn't disqualify them because they had read or seen the movie. >> thank you judges appreciate
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isis has been shockingly successful recruiting westerners and believe it or not, there's a manual for new recruits to help them prepare. so what to pack for a potential jihadi here's more. >> reporter: on the same social media sites where the fbi says isis is recruiting western teenagers, a new terrorist training manual.
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this 50-page guide book for prospective recruits looking to travel to syria. who to call where to go even what to pack. >> $543. >> reporter: a 15-minute shopping trip. >> boots and jacket. >> reporter: a quick look through the closet. we find everything the hand book says you need for a pilgrimage to isis. by the looks of this pile we could be going backpacking. the how-to guide also includes tips for slipping through airport security and sneaking across the syrian border. >> how do get there, how to get there without being intercepted by western intelligence services by tushish intelligence services. >> paul cruickshank says there's no way to verify if this guide comes from isis or just a sympathizer? >> who are they targeting here? >> there is an english-speaking jihadi so they're targeting an
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english-speaking audience. >> reporter: u.s. law enforcement knows isis is using social media to recruit american teens as young as 15 luring them with false promises of adventure and glory. analysts say the most westerners who join the bigger the threat at home. and now this guide, makes recruiting that much easier. will ripley cnn, new york. >> let's talk about this with michael weiss, the co-author of "isis: inside the army of terror." is this the real deal gentlemen? >> i think so. when we say "real deal," does this mean it comes from isis high command, that baghdadi was leaning over someone's shoulder editing this thing? no. it seems to me the work of a fellow traveler or sympathizer with isis or what they call a fan boy.
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the mujahideen who are coming facing new security strictures. they don't want to get caught. somebody gets off the plane in istanbul or in ankara and they're snatched, deported back to their western country of origin and locked up. this is how to evade all that. >> let's go through some of this stuff, because it tells you how far the airport is from where you need to go. buy a ticket to spain or greece so that their destination doesn't seem suspicious. how troubling is this for you? >> it's quite troubling, because it's practical information for potential recruits. it's interesting that it notes spain, because boumeddiene the companion of coulibaly, who carried out the attack in france, she went through madrid. so they're looking for ways to mask their tracks to get into syria underdetected. >> and a lot of it is getting around turkish security.
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there's one thing i want to point out that you pointed out to me. on your visa application form on one of the pages it says that what you shouldn't do there's a box that says commit jihad in syria. this manual tells you, don't check that box. >> wise choice. we went to the website and looked at the application, that box isn't there anymore. so it calls into question a little bit the origins of this thing. but i presume that's probably been changed. >> what does it tell you about the quality of people they're recruiting because little simple things that you would know about travel most people would know are in here. what does it tell you about the quality or the kind of person they're recruiting? >> they want all sorts of people to travel because they want people to bring their skills for this caliphate project. so the people that they're looking to recruit aren't necessarily the best travelers, the most experienced travelers. so there are all sorts of tips
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which are obvious, bring boots and clothes in case it's raining and things like that. but other things like bring solar panelled electronics and stuff like that because it's sometimes difficult to get electricity in syria, all sorts of practical advice in this manual. >> when a person reaches turkey rent a hotel and make contact with someone in syria, this is often done by a known twitter contact. a contact is important because once a person is in turkey they will require protection in addition to not knowing where to go or who to trust. it's like an online social media account is part of this. >> you need somebody to vouch for you when you get there. the guys who are coming over they've contacted isis through skype or facebook or some kind of secure encrypted chat software. the main garrison for the rebel forces including isis in southern turkey is awash with turkish intelligence western
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intelligence including the cia. so this is about, don't come in if somebody offers you the chance to emigrate to syria unless you know who you're dealing with. >> they're saying it's harder to get in now. before you could go to a border crossing. but now they're saying you have to crawl under barbed wire or get operatives to smuggle you across. so isis acknowledging it's more difficult to get across. >> talk about the family begging for information, they say isis air strikes killed her, but they haven't given proof of life yet. isis is saying airstrikes killed her, how do you read this? what do you think? >> i think that's almost certainly a lie. there's a number of reasons. number one, they're keeping the hostage in a weapons depot which are the only facilities that the jordanian air force hit. they said the plane that bombed this site and killed her was a jordanian aircraft.
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how would they know? when it's mostly americans warplanes in the sky? >> you want to respond? >> there's no more information they've put out. there still has to be some hope for the family. >> thank you, gentlemen. appreciate it. we'll be right back.
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on breaking news around the world. that's it for me i'm don lemon. thanks for watching see you tomorrow night on cnn. "ac 360" starts now. good evening. thanks for joining us. tonight with the war story still in question, and other stories also under suspicion, the "nbc nightly news" without brian williams. we'll double-check the facts and ask two noted news watchers should he stay off the air for good? we begin with breaking news. the state of emergency now in effect in massachusetts. for yet another night, snow measured not in inches, but in feet is piling up in new england, one to two feet with another big storm due on thursday. a short time ago, just after a subway train got stuck for two hours in the show the transit authority shut down subway and street car service for tonight and all of tomorrow. let's get the latest from miguel marquez who is stuck like a train in the town of hall just south of boston. so you're stuck, you're actually stuck?