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him, because he has significant skills. and he is super funny. >> yeah yeah. you are never the boring guy many in the room and i appreciate you being on. >> thanks a million for having me, anderson. >> david carr, thank you. and that does it for this edition of "360" and thank you for watching. this is cnn breaking news. >> anderson, thank you very much. sad breaking news to report tonight, cbs correspondent bob simon is dead at age 73 and anderson you worked closely with bob, and i'm happy to have you here to talk about this, and you knew him better than any of us here. and talk to me about his life, and his legacy in jourmnalism. >> i don't want to pretend they hung out socially with bob. i talked to him in the office, and literal i will i can say that prfrom the time i was a kid watching "cbs evening news" as a kid, because that is what we watched as a kid growing up, i have admired bob simon.
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as a kid, his voice was so strong as a writer and back then he was a correspondent in the middle east. i just to me he was everything that a reporter should be and that i dreamed of being, and still to this day hope to be a quarter of the e reporter and the writer that bob simon is and has been and to even be in the same office as him, you know at "60 minutes" and it is a place full of great writerers and producers and correspondents but bob simon was a legend in my opinion, and somebody i was intimidated by. i was shy to talk to him. he started to kind of poke fun at me a couple of year ss back, and this year, he was poking fun at me, because i was getting the short haircuts but he was a love lovely guy. and the producers who worked with him loved to work with him, and you can't say that about everybody in this business. he was a treat from everything that i have heard to be on the road with.
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and yet, you knew that when bob simon presented a story on "60 minutes" you knew it would be special, no matter what it was, because he had a curiosity and willingness to go anywhere and for someone in the business that long and seen as much as he had seen to be with that curiosity and desire to tell other people's stories, it is an in incredible thing, and so stunning to me that he is gone. >> i can only imagine, and we should mention that he died in a car accident in manhattan, and you have been e reporting about this anderson. and he was the war correspondent of war correspondents. he had been all over the world. he had covered everything basically since the 1960s. i believe we have a clip of the work, and we will look at it and then talk about it. >> so the government ever at the time was to convince people that there was nothing to worry about. >> exactly. nothing to worry about. don't worry, okay. even don't prepare for that the
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severe of an accident, because that would cause unnecessary unease and unnecessary misunderstanding. >> and no reason to e prepare. >> and no reason and this ultimately translated into unpreparedness. >> ha that was him reporting on the earthquake in fukushima, and you know, we have been talking about the changing media landscape and not everybody in this business, and hardly anyone could write like bob simon, and that is -- that's the old school guys. and that sis the rigor of writing was really important to him. >> and his ovoice, and it is one thing to be able to write, and another thing to be able to write in your voice. you can write and make something read like copy like anybody else but when bob simon wrote a story like ha that and just his turn of phrase or the words and the reverence for the sound or the pictures, and i have talked to producer, because i would interview producers who i worked
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with at "60 minutes" and michael gavshawn and others who he had worked with, i wanted to work with them, because i wanted to know a little bit of what he knew, and they would tell me that he would work at all of the footage that was was shot, and he would write to the pictures, and sit there and i remember walking by in a couple of weeks ago at the "60 minutes" and sitting there with the producer and the editor, and it is many hours of work sitting there there in the edit room, and that is it, because he was there to craft the stories. >> and he survived anderson 73, and survived by his daughter daughter,tonya and what can you tell us? >> we were doing a profile on em eminen and she is a strong lady and i feel for bob's wife
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who i don't know and his entire family and again, this is a guy that was capture and taken prisoner in iraq by saddam's forces. and you know he had by all accounts a very rough time. and this is somebody who had survived so many close encounters encounters over to the years, and so many desperate and difficult situations in the middle east covering israel and elsewhere, and for him the die like this you know it is one of the things that jeff feiger said in the statement tonight, it is incomprehensible. >> he was held captive for 41 days. what do you think that he will be most remembered for, and also can you read the statement, that you mentioned the statement from jeff feiger here? >> yes, i am getting it up on my phone, and jeff who is the exec executive producer, and known bob for a lifetime said it is a terrible loss for all of us here at cbs news and made tragedy worse because we lost him at a
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car accident because he has escaped more difficult situations than any one journalist. bob was a reporter's e report. he was driven by natural curiosity all over the globe the to cover all of the stories unimaginable. and we will miss him very much at cbs and "60 minutes." i. >> i can feel it. i have to say i did not know him at all, and to talk about someone 73 years old and discussing with my next guest, anderson and at a function, and media thing and i was with some younger journalists coming up to talk to me and all of the sudden this guy walks over and five minutes into it it was bob simon and he just hung out and spoke to us and a really great guy. >> and a delight to work with from every producerr who worked with him, and they loved to be in the field with him h. they knew not only was he going to get an amazing story, but he enjoyed the process and
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enjoyable to be with. krou know, it is important. it is a family when you are working on the stories, and it is a family that comes together from disparate parts of the world, and bob simon was the head of that family. you know i think that all of those who worked with him, they all have special memories and it is -- i think it is income prehen prehenceable to to a lot of people and we got the word on the air, and it is inkom pre henscome prehence able. >> i understand that you are hurting and the family obviously hurting as well. thank you, anderson our thoughts and prayers to the family and the people at cbs and "6 0 "60 minutes." i'm joined by brian stelter, and also the contributing ed dor there at cbs news. >> and a shocking loss in a car accident in manhattan.
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>> and a man who joined cbs evening news in 1967. >> and how many people can you say that about still producing piece, and his last piece aired three days ago in "60 minutes" and a piece on selma, and working full time for "60 minutes" "and one of the few correspondents at a most prestigious posts there at american journalism and at the age of 73 sharing so much with all of us, a and all of the viewers of "60 minutes." >> what a loss for the industry and "60 minutes." >> well as you look at bob simon's work you see that he brings the viewers back to home, a & the increasing fractured and shrinking world that we live in he went for the ambitious stories, and they showed the clip of him going to the arctic that he did a piece on the polar bears, and africa to do on wildlife in recent years, and that ambition is lacking in
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news and he stood for, that and me as a working reporter, i admired an inspired by that. >> and tonight, we are reporting on the death of 73-year-old bob simon, the longtime cbs correspondent and 60 minutes war correspondent dying in a car accident here in manhattan, and we will continue to report on that, and as you can tell from watching this broadcast, we have had a dramatic week in broadcast. last night we had brian williams suspended and jon stewart stepping down. here is a story. >> reporter: last night, we had the blur of the ra real and fake news with back-to-back bombshell departures. stewart an nountsing he is leaving the the "the daily show" for good and williams suspended for six months. and influential commentator and guest, and williams a tux chur
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on nbc news nightly. and williams crossed the line of fact and fiction by his exaggeration of coverage of the iraq war. and then he was lampooned by his friend. >> why bri? >> and trust is one of the hardest things to get back once you have lost it. >> reporter: he with was the 23rd most trusted person in the country according to the marketing arm research company and now he is at 85. >> he was in up thor echelon and up there with the likes of warren buffett and now post this scandal he is near willie robertson of "duck dynasty." >> reporter: such a dramatic drop poses problems for nbc news. >> it is a powerful thing called trust. >> reporter: the network reported tens of millions of
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dollars in williams the face of the news division. >> it is hot it is damp -- >> reporter: and his reporting in hurricane katrina which helped nbc win a peabody also under scrutiny. >> we don't know whether or not we are dealing with with one fabrication or seven. >> reporter: crisis management consultant eric dezin hal says they did the right thing by not immediately firing him, but it too soon to know if he is go ging to the anchor again. lester holt taking over in the interim. >> brian williams is a member of the family, and so are you and we will be working nightly to are retain your trust. >> reporter: three figures have bounced back from scandal, bill clinton and martha stewart and michael millken. >> they don't usually do it with the speed they want.
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>> reporter: he is off of the air until august and the future unknown. and jon stewart's career ending on a high, and one uncertain. will ripley new york. joining us is gabe and brian. what do you believe? >> it is going to be difficult for him to recover. >> morale is not good? >> right, some people at the network don't believe that the network can lead this management forward, but the network president deborah turness tried to listen to feedback and there was angry feedback and the mood of nightly news was like the mood of a funeral, and you kcan understand why, because they feel like they lost him only if he is suspended or if he can come back, it is a devastating blow for nbc news. >> and we will report at the top of the newscast brian williams'
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name taken off of the audio track and the first time that that has happened in ten years. with ee will come back and talk about the future of brian williams and the shocking murders of three muslim students. the family calls it a hate crime, and the suspect's wife says it had nothing to do with the religion. and where is the truth? and the american sniper trial, and what chris kyle's widow say ss he told her in the last phone call shortly before he was murdered.
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♪ we are farmers bum-pa-dum bum-bum-bum-bum ♪♪ our breaking news tonight, correspondent bob simon has died. the 73-year-old has bneen killed in an auto accident here in new york city. he was known for reporting on the biggest stories since the 1960s. he was a regular contributor to "60 minutes" and regular contributor to all 20 seasons of "60 minutes" and also joining us is a panel of author of crisis tales, lanny davis and bob
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stelt erer is with us as well and gabe gabe. >> and brian is a member of our family, and we will work every night to be wor ithy of your trust. >> that is lester holt and he look and sounded pretty pained. he took the word right out of my mouth. and also at the top of that, for nbc nightly news it says this is "nbc nightly news with brian williams" and tonight, it said, "nbc nightly news lester holt reporting." >> one more indication that nbc is removing brian williams from the network. he is stay thing at home and not coming into work, and this is a real suspension, and financial costs as with well and six
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months' on the side of salary, and that is $h 5 million at least. >> and he has left a lot of money on the table, and the millions of marketing they have put on there to build up, and to strip his name from the title is a huge loss that the network is taking. >> lanny davis, what are you thinking of this that his name is not on the broadcast anymore? >> el well first of all, we have to be sad for what is a great career for what has been abruptly stopped and i hope will be allowed to be come back, because i have not yet been convinced, and i'm glad to be able to ask this question of brian that there is a difference that the researchers have proven that there is a difference of the memory mistakes and lies, and i have not seen the evidence of intentional misrepresentation. brian, you were the recipient of a text message from a helicopter pilot who the day before on cnn said that he had piloted brian williams, and that there had
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been ground fire although not brian williams' helicopter. and the next day he texted you and at least i read this on cnn. >> that is right. >> and he said my memory was wrong. and now we give him for sure and i give him the benefit of the doubt. and why the double-standard and the jump and the rush to judgment that he lied is premature. >> i think that one of the reasons that we have seen more scrutiny of williams is a that there are other stories coming up with hurricane katrina, but you are making a important point, because williams says a series of innocent mistakes, and we should say it as well when we talk about this topic, and the "star s "stars and stripes" interview that came out said that he was suggesting to continue to say the same wrong things even when confronted with the evidence. >> i wa want to add one thing that with my reporting, people inside of nbc were trying to get him to stay closer to the facts. and his former boss and tom brokaw had heard him tell the stories over the year and tried to rein him in, and so maybe it
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is a faulty memory but my sense is that even the colleagues felt he had a tendency to embellish. >> and go ahead, lanny? >> well, it is the question of the nbc management and their culpability in this. and if they have known it and there have been credible reports that they have received into formation about the exaggeration and the lies and yes, we can use the word lies kon rare to what lapny davis say ss, from military eyewitnesses, and at least one millitary eyewitness and others within nbc, the question has to be asked, was nbts management protecting him? were they covering up you know, in the scandal and lanny, you know, because you wrote a book on this, and it is not often the crime, but the cover-up itself and the issue is greater than brian williams. if i i were running comcast, i would be asking the serious questions about the management of nbc. >> can i jump in here, because do we really need to relitigate
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this gabe, because you are reporting that they handed him a dossier of the reporting, and maybe misrepresentation, and he has admitted that he overstated the facts. >> and one possible scenario is that nbc is trying to distance itself from brian williams and create some space between the executives and brian williams, and they want us to believe that there is a lot of bad things out there about brian william, and -- i am not saying it is happening, but it is one possibility that they want to put the distance there. >> and i want to get to jon stewart, his good friend and listen to what he told the audience last night. >> 17 years is the longest i have ever in my life held a job by 16 years and five months. thank you. the upshot there being -- [ applause ] -- i'm a terrible employee, but
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in my heart i know that it is time for someone else to have that opportunity. now, now, now. >> that is how the audience sounds. that is how your audience would react. >> and the longest, i have been in a job is three years, and i know what he is saying and to be able to and lanny, when you have jobs in the media and a job like jon stewart to be able to spin, and have a dinner with your family on a week night is a big deal for him, and that is what he said he is going to do. >> i love jon stewart, but a lot of the kids including my own mistake what he does for news. i think that he is a great, great talent but kids should be watching the nightly newscast and not jon stewart for news. but can i come back in for one more time, everything that i heard very distinguished panel that you have to night, no facts, just suggestions, innuendo and tlhere is a file,
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and we hear that, and one of the things as a crisis manager i'm surprised that nbc is not more transparent. allowing somebody to be hung out on innuendo and no facts tonight, and the only thing that we know is that brian williams said that he had a memory conflation a misremember is what the gentleman told in the text message to you. one day he said that he was flying that helicopter and the next day he said oops i misremembered because i heard other pilots, and we don't know whether he did, and i respect you if you think that he did and nbc is not being transparent about what they know and what they don't know and what they are investigating. >> fit is all innuendo, lanny, would ha they pull the multimillion dollar anchor off of the newscast, and clearly, and -- hang on and let me finish -- and clearly they must know, because they are at the center, and what anybody on the panel or the media and our trusty media correspondent here
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and they know more than what we know. >> and don, i agree, and the inference is what $5 million they fine him, and it might kill a career and it might, but the fact that we don't know anymore tonight other than what brian has said and this is a man whose lifetime career is now at risk, and we should at least know why they rushed so quickly to do this and the very least at some point they need to be transparent if not now at some point, and brian williams should respond to media questions in detail as to what caused this, what i still believe was an honest memory mistake. >> that is going to have to be it and thank you, lanny davis and the rest of the panel. coming back true crime stories, and the slay ingsings of three muslim students. was it a hate crime? and the american sniper trial begins today just as dramatic as anything in the movie. we will have a live e report for you.
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the case of three muslim students killed execution-style in north carolina at chapel hill has a lot of people asking if it was a hate crime. jay jason carroll has the story for us. >> i don't think that there is a word to describe the pain. if it weren't for honoring my children and wanting to tell the world their story, i would not be talking. >> reporter: mohammad abu salha is numb after the death of his
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two children and his daughter's husband. >> as much as i grieve, i cannot grieve like my wife does. i don't think that we can feel it well now. until we see the bodies and have the burial. we are in shock. two children of ours and our son-in-law. >> reporter: all three shot execution style a bullet to the head and a frantic 911 call tuesday night and a fire shot at the victim's apartment complex near the university of north carolina's campus at chapel hill where where they lived. >> i heard gunshot, and i don't know the build ging where it came from, but kids were screaming. >> how long did you hear it? >> how long? >> yes. >> probably 30 seconds ago. >> okay. how many shots did you hear? >> multiple and between five and ten i would say. >> reporter: that night, the neighbor turned himself into the police, and they charged him with three counts of first-degree murder and now
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there are questions about the motive. all three victims were muslim, and the women's father called the attack a hate crime saying that the daughters and his son-in-law were targeted because of their faith. >> my daughter yusor told us on more than two occasion has the man came knocking at the door and fight inging about everything with a gun on his belt. more than twice. she told us dad dirks i think that he hates us for who we are and how we look. >> reporter: investigators say that the shooting was a result of a longstanding dispute between neighbors. >> i did want to make sure that the folks knew that based on all of the information that our office and the law enforcement has at this time that the events of yesterday are not part of a targeted campaign against muslims in north carolina or anything other than an
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individual event. >> reporter: hicks' wife expressed her condolence and say hag her husband's act of murder had nothing to do with religion. >> i can say that the incident had nothing to do with religion or victim's faith, but it with news fact due to the longstanding parking disputes that my husband had with the neighbors. >> reporter: barakat was a second second-year dental student, and his wife set to begin the studies at the second-year of dental student, and barakat was also raising money to provide dental care for syrian refugees. and they were called the kind of children that parents wish for now gone. >> they leave a scent of flowers and a breeze and alive in our
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lives. i don't believe i can believe it until i see it on their faces and the holes and the stitches. >> reporter: and don, they say they will exhaust every lead in the case, but many people in this community, including the victim's father believe in his heart that this was indeed a hate crime. don? >> it is just awful. jason carroll, thank you very much. i want to bring in a friend of the victim's and omar abdul baki who knows the victim deah barakat very well. i want to say to both of you, we are very story for the loss of your friends. and now, you have just come back from the vigil in honor of your friends, and tell us about the mood there? >> everyone is still in shock. but seeing the family and how
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strong they are really helped our, us. yusor and deah's friend and seeing how strong they were and just believing they are in a better place and happy. >> you have known them since high school, right? tell us about them. >> yes. dee kwa and i went to school together and he was the type of person who made everyone laugh. he was a jokester but nice and he never wanted to upset anyone. and yusor, we were not close in grade school but we became close in college and we had a class together and we started to get closer. and we would sit in class and joke around, and eat fruit roll-ups in the back of the class. >> i am glad that you guys could have a smile a moment right there. and deah was in his second year
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of dental school to raise money to go on a dental care for refugees. let's have a look. >> have you ever felt helpless about the situation in syria and felt like you could not do anything about it? well, this is the opportunity to held heldp. this summer, i'm embarking on a are trip to turkey with ten den dentists to help e refugees in need of dental care, and we will do extractions, and oral care for those most many need. >> omar you are a close friend of his,ed a tell us about the man. >> yeah, i mean, the video describes him all that deah is. he is so selfless and so generous, and it does really give you a peek into his personality, and how he is always willing to help and looking for ways to help people. he is the kindest and gentlest soul that we have met.
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recently he was posting on facebook about being at a local homeless shelter where he was helping give out toothbrushs, and toothpaste and going over oral hygiene instructions there and he immediately texted one of my classmates that works with the free clinic at the school and asked him how to get the people are from the homeless shelter connected to the dental school can, and get them over to the free clinic, and how to get them transportation and constantly thinking of thou help people and so genuine and pure about it. it is really a legacy that we will try to carry on. i know that it is something that we all strive to be and he xemlyxem ly -- exemplified everything that we want to be and dental professionals or professionals in general. >> and he is a representation of what people would believe
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muslims, the representation that should be in media that should be covered more, the people who do kind things and missions like that. and now i understand that many of you are thinking that it is a hate crime. do you think that omar that his faith and the fact that the women were wearing head scarves played into the murders at all. do you believe it was a hate crime? >> i know that there is ongoing investigations, and right now, we have put all of the focus into thinking about and remembering deah and yusor and razan and not about why it happened but that it has happened and how to remember them and carry on the legacy for a very long time. >> and netta, do you believe it is a hate crime? >> well, like omar said everyone is in shock. we don't know why it happened, and we want to remember them not by the way they died but by the way they lived and how they changed everyone's lives that they met. >> thank you very much and our
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thoughts are with you and we appreciate your coming on in a tough time. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> we have much more to come tonight, and the family is calling it a hate crime, and the suspect's wife saying that religion had nothing to do with it. how do we get to the truth here? sometimes romantic. there were tears in my eyes. and tears in my eyes. and so many little things that we learned were really the biggest things. through it all, we saved and had a retirement plan. and someone who listened and helped us along the way. because we always knew that someday the future would be the present. every someday needs a plan. talk with us about your retirement today. across america, people are taking charge of their type 2 diabetes... ...with non-insulin victoza. for a while, i took a pill to lower my blood sugar but it didn't get me to my goal. so i asked my doctor about victoza. he said victoza works differently than pills and comes in a pen.
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all three vicktims in the chapel hill murder were muslims, and because of the comment that the suspect left on facebook a lot of the people on the social media are raising the question was it a hate crime? joining me to talk about it is the executive director of the counsel of islamic relations, and also joining us sis attorney in these types of crimes. and i don't know how these young people could even come on so bravely to speak.
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what do you know? >> i personally met with the parents of the three victims, and i spoke to the fathers of them. one father told me that his two daughters, one of them the one who was murdered yusor and moved with her husband, felt the hostility from the neighbor and she believed because of the fact that her being muslim, and wearing the hajab and she felt fear. her father told us this, and we asked the local law enforcement, and the other h law enforcement authorities to take that into account, and while investigating. today, i met with the mayor of the police chief and with the u.s. district attorney office and we trust that this investigation is not going to be ruling out any possibility including hate crime pubut the
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focus should be tonight and for many days to come on the beautiful lives that were lost and the nation. and these beautiful contributing and vibrant contributing of people, and have inspired thousands of people to be active and participant in the community service, and from what i saw here on the chapel hill throughout the vigil that took place, and thousands of people turned up from the entire local community. so it is very heartwarming that these three individuals who knew nothing about hate, and their lives with were ended in a sad manner. >> and you heard of the two students who went to vigil, and they are echoing that. and i want to read this to you, mark, and this is from the facebook page of the gunman craig hicks who describes himself as a ap tie theologist and he condemns all religion a
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and he posted this on the facebook page, when it comes to insults, your religion started this and not me. if your religion kept its big mouth shut so would i. and i need to say that cnn could not independently confirm the authenticity of the post on the facebook page and it is unclear, mark what religion he is talking about, but having heard of it do you believe -- the murders were motivated by to a anti-muslim bias? >> well first of all, my thoughts are with the family and the loss, and first of all, we look at the prism of any violent crime, if one of the reasons was by hatred or animosity toward religion race ethnicity and i like that we vhave the hate crime statues, and we are looking at it to see if there is a focus of whether this man acted with hatred, and certainly, what you
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mentioned is one element, and one piece of evidence that he suggested that he had a hatred or the dislike of the muslim community potentially a and if it is the only piece of evidence i don't believe it is enough quite honestly but what we need to do is to wait and have law enforcement the look through the osocial media and see what groups he sis a neighbor of, and the things that he said to the neighbors, and of course the hatred that exists for the hate crime is exists in the person's mind and the reasons of what he acted the way he act and it is going to be coming the way he acted toward other people. and law enforcement will be look at it closely, because if it gives a reason or show ss that how it acted then at least we will know how he act ed in ted in the future. >> and that is all of the time we have this evening a, because of the breaking news. and now, the real life trial
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and their families is without equal. start investing with as little as fifty dollars. the american sniper draw a ma is playing out on streen screen and in a texas courtroom. as oscar winner bradley cooper is going for gold, the real life man accuse dd of shooting chris kyle goes on trial today. let's talk about it with martin savidge. busy day in court, and what happened some. >> yes, very interesting kind of day. and here is the point that both sides sides agree on, and that is the defendant eddie routh killed
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chris kyle and his friend in february of 2013. where the two sides discan agree is why. the prosecution says that look it is straight out murder and both men were gunned down and shot multiple time and that the defendant knew exactly what he was doing, and the defense says well he did kill both men, but he did not know what he was doing as a result of a severe mental psychosis he got serve ing the country. this is the summary of the prosecution and the defense in that order. >> the evidence will show that chris kyle was shot with a different gun a .45 caliber pistol and one bullet per pull of the trigger and four times in the back and one in the back of the head. >> when he took their lives, he was in the the grip of a psychosis, a psychosis so severe that at that point in time that
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he did not know what he was doing was wrong. he had to take their lives, because in his psychosis, he was thinking they were going to take his. >> reporter: and then the defense dropped a bombshell, chris kyle's own words in a form of a text on that deadly day as the three men were driving to the shooting range, because chris kyle texted his best friend sitting next to him, and he is referring to routh who is in the back seat and kyle texts this guy is straight up nuts. that plays directly into what the defense is arguing. pleading insanity saying that routh was out of his mind when he killed the two men. don? >> thank you very much for that martin savidge. and now i want to bring in a man who has known eddie ray routh his whole life and his cousin
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adam routh, and you heard martin's report of what happened in court and what was testified to and do you have any reaction to that? >> well, i mean, it pretty much speaks for itself i would say so sir. >> what do you mean speaks for itself? >> well chris kyle already knew in the truck that eddie was having issues. so the whole insanity i mean it just fits in on top of it. and eddie has tried to get help several times, and he just finally snapped, i'd reck conn. >> tell me about your cousin and i know that you were close. what was he like before he began serving. >> before he began to serving, he was a good ole jolly boy, and helping hand and give you the shirt off of his back if need be and he loved working and loved to be outside and loved hunting and fishing, and never even really thought about
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hurting nobody. >> and before that no -- he was not on any medication or as i understand afterwards he was prescribed a lot of medications, and do you think that he came back a changed man, and was it true he was on a lot of medication? >> e yes, sir, i do believe so, and yes, sir, they did like to shove a lot of pills down his throat from the v.a. >> and was that for ptsd? >> e eyes, sir i believe it was. >> and when he returned home what was the e relationship with drugs and alcohol? >> with drug ss and alcohol. he did drink, and he might have smoked marijuana, but as for the pcp thing, i have heard that today and i never seen him do anything like that. >> and how did you find out about the shooting? >> i found out about the shootings through facebook actually. had one of my close friends hit me up on the messenger, and let me know all about it. >> yeah. when was the last time that you
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saw your cousin and do you still hear from him? >> yes, sir. i do hear from him quite reg yu regularly about once a week, i'd say, but, excuse me last time that i saw him was the christmas just before he ended up doing the deed. >> you said just about once a week, and how is ha? >> everything we keep it simple. >> i mean, texting or the calling or how are you hear hg? >> no, no. he calls me. he calls me about once a week. and that and writing the letters sometimes. >> what does he say to you? >> we try to keep it simple. you know just talk about how things are going on out here. and you know, definitely we stay away from the trial. we don't even talk about that. i mean, that is a hard enough subject in itself. >> how is he holding up?
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>> he's i think that he is holding up pretty good for right now. i haven't talked to him here within the past couple of days and i'm sure that he has a lot of stress on him, but last time i talked to him, he was doing all right. >> i want the show the drawing that he here it is that he sent to you while in jail. what do you make of this drawing? what is this about? >> well, my cousin was a soldier, and that is what he loved most. ever since we were kids, he wanted to be a soldier. and i mean the way feel about it, maybe that is what he'd rather be doing at the moment. >> adam, i know it is not easy to do this thank you so much more coming on, and will you come back? >> possibly sir. >> i know it sis tough. thank you, adam routh, appreciate it. >> thank you. >> and we have so much more on
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11:00 eastern now on the east coast. three people shot to death execution style, and the suspect a neighbor who may have posted some anti-semitic remarks on his
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facebook pages. was it a hate crime? and now, what was put into the imitation game crusade of ad adam or thing? we will find out more about that. and now, more on the chapel hill murders from jason carroll. >> reporter: frantic 911 call and shots fired near chapel hill campus in north carolina. >> there is more than one girl screaming, and then there was nothing. >> reporter: the victims, all muslims, 20-year-old deah barakat and his wif