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"60 minutes" i was going to learn something. he was always an inspiration and a gentleman. my deepest condolences to his wife and daughter. bob simon was 73 years old. he will be missed. erin burnett outfront starts now. isis on the offensive. just miles from an air base with as many as 400 americans troops. new information on the man charged with the murders of three young muslims in north carolina. his neighbors speak out tonight. bob simon dies in a car crash minutes from his home. let's go outfront. good evening. outfront tonight, isis launching
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attacks across iraq and making progress. militants attacking iraqi forces on the outskirts of a key town. you see it on the map. up to 400 american troops are stationed there tonight. the americans are training iraqi pilots. we have information on isis making progress. our coverage begins with phil black. phil how much progress how significant is this news from isis today? >> reporter: it has been an basic tiffactive day for isis. the region where isis has maintained considerable
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momentum. it's a concern because it's close to an air base where u.s. military personnel are involved training the iraqi army. five of their positions have crossed a wide area came under isis attack. some are about suicide bombers. they say this fit a new tactic by isis. an attempt they believe to divert their attention, their resources from their main game their main strategy which is circling and choking off the isis strongholds. >> thank you very much. jim is in washington. this is fierce fighting tonight. it's a few miles from a base where 400 american personnel are stationed. these are the personnel the president said were there to train. it looks like combat may be coming.
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are they in danger? >> their close to danger. u.s. forces were confined to the capital background. their very close to combat. this is something that's happening as the advisors are pressed out of the major city centers. they're not combat troops but they are closer to combat and that's certainly raises the danger. the concern isn't how far isis is spreading and growing in iraq and syria but how far the reach is extending outside the countries. this is a bigger problem. >> this is their home base. you have in syria and iraq.
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there's been attacks in recent months and weeks here. attacks on major western hotel. it killed one american in tripoli. the pentagon says some taliban fighters rebranding themselves as isis in part to get new recruits because isis is the big thing in jihadi circles. >> thank you very much. that authorization now u.s. military could be called in any country. there's no geographic limitation on the president's request in the use of force.
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this is a major development. training iraqi pilots. these are the personnel that the president said are not combat troops and b will not be involved. here they are just a couple of miles, two, three maybe four miles away from combat. what are the options if this combat comes to them? >> this is a real problem. if you look at the location this is way out that presents us with a real problem, a real dilemma. do we evacuate the base. aircraft and try to air evaceverybody out or reenforce
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that base and try to hold it. it's a no win situation on both ways. danger is coming. >> you think that one of isis goal is to lay siege to that base. they know there's americans there? >> exactly. they probe that base. we know they want to take it. it's right in the middle of the area that they want to control. if you remember when they came up, they want to consolidate that area up to the syrian border. >> how big of a risk is this at this moment for those 400 americans at that base? >> i think there's not much risk. if you ever been to that base it's wide open area around there. hard to sneak up on it. as long as the iraqi force
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depending it is halfway competent there should be no way that isis can take it. the bigger problem is when they get within rocket range they'll start to lay siege to the base by reigning rockets and borders on it. our troops are in greater danger from indirect fire from a direct ground assault. >> what should the united states do? what's your view. is this something, does the united states lose face by evacuating. should they evacuate or take the risk of a siege. >> if these iraqi forces are so incomp tent thaen we have bigger problems then 400 troops on an isolated base. >> you're nodding.
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we have bigger problems. i'm not sure that the iraqi army has been recon city tutsed enough to do that. i'm very concerned as colonel is with the indirect fire that can come down on that base. weave seen it in the past and probably in the future. >> what happens if there's an american kushlty. the u.s. that been careful. all of a sudden isis fighter kills an american soldier. does this change the game for the u.s.? does this change the president saying we're not going to have combat troops. this is a war.
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>> there will be a casualty. how much progress do you think isis will be able to make. in syria we know they have made significant progress. in iraq there's been some success. other places where they rr making gains. this gives them a big headline to be near a base where 400 americans are but are they actually making these gains? >> i think you're seeing isis is trying to change the narrative. they have taken it on the chin in the last week. they need to do to do something to change the narrative. they have chose tennessee area where they are the strongest to try to make some gains. change the image that they are
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losing. i think it's probably a limited assault at this time. i believe the iraqis will be able to weather it. i don't see there's any danger. >> thanks very much to both of you. next new details on attempts to rescue american hostage kayla mueller. did the united states lose a chance to save her life? plus the death of bob simon. my guest is one of his former colleagues. the fbi strong words on race and policing today. why he says police must resist lazy shortcuts. there's nothing more romantic than a spontaneous moment. so why pause to take a pill? and why stop what you're doing to find a bathroom? with cialis for daily use, you don't have to plan around either. it's the only daily tablet approved to treat erectile dysfunction so you can be ready anytime the moment is right. plus cialis treats the frustrating urinary symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently, day or night.
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questions about whether the u.s. government did enough to try to save hostage kayla mueller. the white house is pushing back that it delayed a crucial rescue mission for the 26-year-old aldid worker. she was held for 18 months. could more have been done? >> reporter: a hard breaking message from the man kidnapped in kayla mueller, her boyfriend. he posted this picture of kayla holding a stuffed animal saying on his facebook page i'm sorry i didn't hold onto you with so much strength that even god couldn't take you away. your left our world for a wigbigger and better place now.
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cnn learned omar risked his life to save kayla. he went to a camp friending to be her husband. paul gozar has cancelled family and says more could have been done. >> there's conflicting evidence that white house and the administration didn't do all it could. >> reporter: a spokesperson for the national security council says u.s. forces conducted this operation as soon as the president and his national security team were confident the mission could be carried out. the president told buzz feed he did everything he could. >> i deployed p an entire operation at significant risk to rescue not only her but the other individuals that had been held and probably missed them by day or two because we had that
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commitment. >> reporter: after isis issued an execution deadline of mueller last august her family reached out to the white house. according to a family spoke spokesperson asked the administration if they would consider a prisoner swap. even though the swap never happened it's believed she was still alive after the execution deadline passed. the white house declined to comment on the family's request for a prisoner swap. we know the u.s. prisoner policy is still under review. back to you. >> thanks very much pamela. now former navy seal commander. bob behr joins me as well. it appeared in the daily beast. the white house has denied it. they say the u.s. did not think
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british intelligence was good enough to act on and waited a month to launch a mission to rescue isis' hostages. that's the report in the daily beast. my question to you is would waiting a month be normal? >> absolutely. i spent the '80s and early '90s looking at hostage rescues in lebanon. that's all i did for five years. we were careful about the intelligence. if we produce something, the military would look at it and they'd want collateral. at that time they did eyes on. this could take much more than a month. i just don't buy the daily beast story. the military is very careful about sending people into dangerous areas and long range missions. they want to be sure they're not set up for an ambush. to take a month, it doesn't seem that long to me. >> kayla was in captivity august 2013 until her death. they believe it was recently. it would have been something like 18 months at least the
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u.s. government said there was only one rescue attempt made. would you have expected more to be done during that time especially given that they have said that during the rescue attempt they only missed kayla and the other hostages by a day or two? >> you need three things. number one proof of life the hostage is still alive and exact location where the hostage is being locate and the last thing is the authorities. getting the authorities takes multiple sources. there are ways. unfortunately in the hostage world these are time sensitive. the enemy knows they have to move them. many times went don't get the authorization to launch the mission. sounds like that's what happened. it's not that easy to launch the missions because of the risk involved both to the hostage and
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rescuers as well. >> when it comes to the rescuers i spoke with robert o' neil who was on many of these missions including the bin laden mission. he had a lot of experience with these cases. here is what he told me about how he felt when they were called in to rescue people who probably shouldn't have been where they were in the first place? >> it is upsetting. i've had a good friend in my team. he was killed trying to rescue an american doctor in afghanistan. part of our issue is why are you going there? obviously it's noble and you want to do the right thing. most are aid workers or journalist. the problem is you need to have realization that people don't like you based on being a non-believer. they will kill you based on how you look. >> bob, it was an interesting answer he gave because it was very honest. there is this they understand some of these people are trying to do wonderful things but yet by doing this and taking on
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these risks they are risking other lives as well. seals who may be called to rescue them pep. >> exactly. kayla was an angel. she wanted to help. she believed in it. she was a true believer. the fact is she shouldn't have crossed the border from turkey. doctors without border warned her. they said go back. you're going to get taken by the islamic state or one of these. i don't think this is what the seals should be doing is having americans wander around a combat area and putting their lives at risk. these missions are enormously risky. you can almost count on losing somebody especially somebody. it's unfortunate that these people wander around these areas. >> it's pretty horrible to imagine when something like that happened. you hear about the missions that don't succeed but what if six seals died. even if the hostage was saved, how horrible would that be even
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for that hostage. >> this happened routinely. i used to go out and brief the journalists. we said there's a direct threat and they still ignored us and they we're doing the lord's work and put their lives and risk and the lives of the special operations brethren at risk. there are some places in the world that people need to think twice before going into. >> it's a very fair point. carter was won praise from democrats and republicans. he called him one of the
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america's most respected defense professionals. the fbi has just announced its opening a preliminary inquiry into the shooting death of three young muslim students in north carolina. we have new details on the man suspected of killing them. we have those for you next and the director of the fbi talking about race and police. saying that police do treat young black men differently than whites. the president of the united states as you've never seen him before. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] you wouldn't ignore signs of damage in your home. are you sure you're not ignoring
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of the three students. it's a vigil taking place at north carolina state university in raleigh. that's where the sister one of the victims is going the school. tonight we're learning more about what might have fueled
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their neighbor to storm into their chapel hill apartment on tuesday night and open fire shooting them execution style. here is the question. was this really over a disputes about the parking lot or was it the moment. >> reporter: flowers if front of the apartment where the victims livered. lived. their neighbor now facing three counts of first-degree murder. the preliminary investigation shows the deaths may have been the result of an ongoing dispute
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over parking. one neighbor says hicks had a reputation being a hot head. >> i have seen and heard him be very unfriendly to a lot of people in this community equal opportunity anger. >> reporter: another neighbor saying parking was an issue addressed by building management. >> i'm assuming there's parking issues. i guess the association, the condo association released this. >> it's not about parking. the whole worltdsd is looking at social media and know what it's about. >> reporter: the 46-year-old was studying to be a paralegal. he spent much of his time helping students and teachers. his ex-wife described him in a much different way. she said his favorite move was
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"falling down." a movie about a man who goes on a violent rampage. she said he thought it was hilarious and had no compassion at all. >> reporter: investigators have confiscated his commuter. the suspect told police he went into a blind rage after he saw a car belonging to one of the victims parked in his spot. his facebook page did not appear to show him targeting muslims. there were anti-religion posts. it reads atheist for equality. on january 20th, he posted this picture with the caption, that's one pound, 5.1 ounces for my
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loaded .38 revolver. then he wrote this. now that the vigil has wrapped up here and word has started to spread about that fbi inquiry, that will be welcoming news to many people here who believe what happened was indeed a hate crime. erin. >> jason, thank you. today, the father of the two young women spoke at another memorial again calling for a hate crime investigation. >> please involve the fbi. please investigate. please look carefully. i have talked to lawyers. i have talked to law professors. this has hate crime written all over it. >> outfront now, columnist for
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the daily beast and mark o'mara. you heard the father of those two young women say this has hate crime written all over it. you're saying not so fast. >> not so fast. this screams out for an explanation over and above a parking spot dispute. it's not necessarily the cause for a person's religion. what a hate crime investigation is is a focus or a filter through which you look at everything this guy did leading up to the death. the hate crime is supposed to be there to enhance the penalty if you acted a certain way. he's looking at death penalty eligible three first-degree murder cases in north carolina. he is looking at a life sentence no matter what. >> it is as mark fairly says it's impossible to be a disputes
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over a parking lot although we have horrific stories of road rage. why are you so sure it was a hate crime as opposed to an ongoing dispute and they happen to be muslim? >> in my mind after speaking to two friends of victims, seeing the comments of the father. i have no doubt the fact they were muslim playing a role. i believe in my heart if they were not muslim they would be alive today. there's a reason i say that. when you see the media report os the people said he had given many people problems. they had a community meeting in that complex about the man. he only targeted the muslim. he only killed three muslims. they were the only ones that live in the complex. he didn't shoot other people he had problems with. she shot those three and turned himself in. >> someone on his facebook page said muslims are responsible for 9/11. here is what the suspect responded back. you are smart enough know those were extremists.
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they were not practicing islam anyone than jim jones. that does not sound like somebody with hate from muslims. >> that's from 2010. >> i'm not saying he's a raving anti-muslim bigot. he had a moment and he cracked. then you have remember politicians ginning up the hate. he's in north carolina where they just passed a law legislation a year ago. a lot of hateful stuff about muslims. >> when you hear dean's arguments here does it convince you? >> what he does acknowledge and what we have talked about the subtle biases that show up in people. it's not active but we know and
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i would agree with what he said. there's a good chance if those victims were not muslim they may be alive today, but that subtle bias that may have affected this guy's otherwise bizarre behavior. >> that's not enough to make it a hate crime. it was because of a protected class and if it shows up in social media and shows up somewhere we'll have an opportunity for hate crime investigation to continue. >> thanks very much to both of you. bob simon survived countless close calls in field reporting only to die in a tragic car crash near his home. his former colleague connie chung. president obama unleashed. must have been a slow day. at work.
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and race. fbi director blames some police for taking lazy shortcuts of cynicism. >> after years of police work officers often can't help but be influences by the cynicism they feel. a mental shortcut becomes almost irresistible and maybe rational by some lights. the two young black men on one side of the street look like so many others that officer has locked up. two white men on the other side of the street even in the same clothes do not. >> here is my question. you have michael brown in ferguson missouri. you have eric garner that's gotten the entire nation involved in this debate. why did he speak out now? >> he feels as the nation's top cop it's his place to address what's really becoming a major issue which is the relationship
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between cops and the communities they are supposed to be protecting. here is a little more about what he had to say about why this problem developed. >> we must understand the people we serve and protect. by trying to know deep in our gut what it feels like to be a law-abiding young black man walking down street and encounterer law enforcement. we must understand how that young man may see us. we must resist the lazy shortcuts of cynicism. >> trying to explain why this biez seems to come aboutbias seems to come about. >> some people are saying he should be tougher on cops? >> that is going to create some controversy. a will the of people feel that
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cops really are to blame here. what he was trying to say is they're not more racist than anybody else in society. this is something from a learned experience and he's also saying that the communities where the cops are working also have a job to do to get to know the police officers that are there protecting them. >> thank you. next cbs news reporter bob simon cheated death so many times during his career was killed in tragic car accident at home. we have new details on what caused that crash and outfront to remember her former league. also the commander in chief checking out his shades and wielding a selfie stick. you'll want to see this. and tears in my eyes. and so many little things that we learned were really the biggest things. through it all, we saved and had a retirement plan. and someone who listened and helped us along the way. because we always knew that someday the future would be the present.
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one of the most distinguished careers in journalism has ended in tragedy. bob simon was killed in car crash in new york city last night. his sudden death is all the more heartbreaking since he risked his life again and again reporting from the heart of conflicts around the world. >> reporter: this is israel's most advanced position. bob simon broke news on the toughest stories for nearly 50
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years. his death now its own story. how could a man who survivored so many scrapes die in a car crash on the streets of new york. >> it's part of what makes it hard to get a hold of this to die the way he did adds to the shock of it. >> reporter: simon in the backseat of this town car. his seat belt likely off. the car his driver hit, this black mercedes. the damage of the car simon was in shocking compared with the light damage to the mercedes. the accident happening just after dark around 6:45. investigators say simon's black lincoln town car was headed south on the inside lane on manhattan's west side highway. the right side clipped the black mercedes. simon's car spun out of control slamming into protective posts. nearly flipped around on the other side of the intersection.
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speed is being investigating as a possible cause or contributor of the crash. they are also looking into whether any of the drivers were distracted texting or on the phone. the 44-year-old driver both broke legs and arms had prior traffic tickets and worked as a limo driver less than a year. bob simon covered and survived wars and conflicts worldwide. he and his cbs colleagues were taken prisoner and tortured by their iraqi captors. >> it's been a long 40 days and 40 nights. >> reporter: he won a slew of awards including 27 emmys and four peabodies. simon was rushed to the hospital but traumatic injuries to his head and neck silences the voice
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of a reporter always ready for the next story. police tonight will only say that the entire investigation is the entire accident is under investigation. when bob simon jumped in that limo or town car he left cbs news. he had just finished up his latest story for "60 minutes" with his daughter tonya has producer who works there as well. that story on the ebola crisis and the possibility of a cure will air this sunday. erin. >> thank you. one of bob simon's former colleagues the former co-anchor of the cbs evening news. wow both began your careers at cbs. you were there with bob. you were anchoring the evening news. you'd be interacting with him all the time. he was often in far flung war torn location. >> you saw his work. one day you actually met him in the building. >> yeah. to me he was 6'5" a giant in
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the business because i would say cbs news correspondent bob simon has that report. off to a satellite report and he'd be the invasion of the gaza. covering the plo, chief middle east correspondent. portugal where ever he was. i never got to meet him. at one point they brought him into new york for some reason. i saw him. i threw my arms around him and hugged so closely. he was just who is this woman. why is she doing this to me? to me he was a giant. you're such a good writer. you're such a good reporter. you go into these war zones. you're so brave. he was such a modest fellow. we how oldwould, you know. >> very humble. >> absolutely.
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there was no self-grandisement ever. i remember i was a correspondent, i was only 25, 26. he was soned already. because his abilities, he was confident. and yet, when you met him, you know he was kind of quiet and shy. i mean that's the way he was. >> an unusual combination. you don't usually hear someone being so confident and brave going to all those places and all those years, never becoming a little puff dog or full of himself. so humble and -- >> that's why they called him the reporter's report. he was not important as far as he was concerned. it wasn't where is bob simon
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going tonight. it was the story. and he could write so beautifully. i remember when i was anchoring the "cbs evening news" we'd see the scripts ahead of time and i said i wish i could write like that. >> he was so gifted. >> he was and when he came to the "60 minutes," i was so happy because i thought, now bob's not going to be in harm's way. and the tragedy, he is from the bronx. even new york his home and to think, i just met his daughter recently. i happened to be with "60 minutes" and she said i'm tanya, tanya simon. i'm bob simon's daughter. oh she's beautiful. just the way he was. >> what a wonderful tribute. well thank you so much and so many people watching. they see his face every week and just to hear who he was as a man. thank you so much connie. and next a much lighter
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cnn. and anchors are playing the game. it airs on cnn on monday night. it's in honor of president's day. the show focuses on presidential trivia. here's a behind the scenes look at all of us sizing up the pregame competition. >> it's rare we're all together in one place. it's an interesting dynamic. jake tapper takes this very seriously. martin van boou ren. >> you're going down like in the dual. >> deadweight jake. >> deadweight jake. and then there's don. the testosterone overload. >> look at cuomo, the fancy boy from the mansion. >> look at them sweat. the purpose of this question there's no competition.
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>> all right. and my partner was john berman. john can't wipe the smile off his face. i think we all had a bit of -- >> it was so much fun. now that it's over, i can't help but smile. >> let's play a game. one of the games you play is you get four presidents right? four on the screen. the answer i give is always one of the four presidents. i just want to prove to you how i had the most amazing partner. are you ready? >> ready. >> this president invented a swivel chair and you plow a -- >> 10%. >> correct. he signed legislation creating the federal reserve system. give you a hint? >> no. woodrow wilson. >> yes.
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he was the first president to join out the opening ball -- >> tapt. >> rumored to have -- >> john kennedy but i don't buy it. >> this was the first president to visit europe. >> woodrow wilson. >> the only president to serve as chief justice -- >> tapt. >> this left the white house -- >> that's taft also. >> and this responsible for governmentwide segregation of workplaces. >> woodrow wilson. >> this president wrote letters to his mistress in which he named inappropriate parts of his body. >> william hardy. >> you're a big fan. >> he was not one of the four but that's how good john berman is. whatever we did, 7-7? 8-8? that is pretty amazing. >> i'm sweating. i'm sweating again. >> he doesn't even break a sweat.
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that's why he's a great partner but we did it for charity. save the children which is helping children around the world right now in syria. >> it's a great cause. and there was money, everyone won in the end. that was the nice thing. >> i'll let john go because you're anchoring "ac360" tonight. airing 9 p.m. eastern on monday. he didn't have to know any, he just asked the questions. it is diabolical. president obama in an ad for health care.gov. got a million and a half hits after the release. yes, this is the leader of the free world prepping primping picking his teeth, mugging for the camera just like he thinks the regular guy does apparently. supposedly for a health care ad he's about to record. >> deadline for signing up for health insurance is february -- febru --
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>> here's the thing. if men really primped like that in front of mirror, we have some major problems in society. it's on buzzfeed. thank you so much for joining us. "ac360" hosted by the aftermentioned john berman starts now. good evening. john berman here sitting in for anderson tonight. a new ryan williams war story emerges and quickly comes under fire. we have exclusive reporting to get right to the truth of the matter or the lack thereof and we have breaking news. brian stelter and tom learned nbc investigation is nowhere near done, the words of a senior network source. it has widened, we are now learning beyond his initial inaccurate account of the 2003 iraq war mission in which he falsely claimed his chopper was hit by enemy hire. there are new questions about his account of being in berlin when the wall came down and his claims t