tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN February 13, 2015 5:00pm-6:01pm PST
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thank you so much for joining us. have a wonderful weekend. happy valentine's day. set your dvr to record outfront to watch anytime. "ac360" with john berman starts right now. john berman sitting in for anderson. we begin with breaking news. blizzard warnings up again for a whole lot of people tonight. people thought the recent one two punch, actually one two three punch that buried them in three feet of snow and more in some places they thought it might be it for a while. nope. on the way, more snow hurricane force winds and now bitter bitter cold. so from the midwest to maine, tens of millions of people including those poor souls in boston are getting ready to face it all over again. let's bring in ivan cabrera in the weather center in atlanta.
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he's followed all the watches and warnings. ivan how bad is it going to be? >> i think it has the potential to be worse than the last storm. not because of how much snowfall but because of the wind. anywhere from 65 to 75 miles an hour. that's going to be an issue with the wind along the coast and the potential for coastal flooding and power outages. these blizzard extend to 495. if you're familiar with the area 40 miles west of boston. this is going to be a high impact storm and that is going to be the case through the day on saturday night heading into sunday especially. look at these winds that we're forecasting here. 55 to 65 for boston. 65 to 75 for nantucket for the rest of the islands too. and then as far as the snowfall it's going to be coming downsideways. 15 to 18 inches. down east maine worst of the snow and boston one to ten. if you saw this map, doesn't tell you the whole story. those 8 to 10 inches come down with the kind of winds that are going to be causing significant
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problems. i think we'll have power outages unlike what we saw with the last storm here. have to watch this closely. the windchills as well. anywhere from 10 below to 30 below zero. that's the way it's going to feel to exposed skin as you head out saturday night into sunday. so this is going to be very dangerous storm because of the winds and because of the cold air that's going to be with us as well. there's the timing there sunday. really getting going. this thing is going to bomb out as we call it east of cape cod and that's going to continue as we head through the day on monday with gusty winds. look at windchills for boston inland anywhere from 5 to 10 to as much as 20 below zero. so if you have valentine's plans, either postpone them or do them early on saturday is my advice to you. >> stay warm. all right. it's going to be bad. it's going to be windy. hurricane force winds. thank you so much ivan. we appreciate it. we have more breaking news right now. u.s. helicopter gun ships deploy against isis in western iraq as we speak. today, isis fighters assaulted
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an air base with several hundred u.s. military personnel have been training iraqi forces. the iraqis pushed back that attack but isis is now in a pitch battle in a key neighboring town and the threat to u.s. forces say pentagon officials is real and it is ongoing. want to brief chief international security corps, who are these gun ships engaging? >> we're told by the pentagon earlier today when isis forces were assaulting al assad air base at the aipache to help repel the forces. help repel it on their own and to fire a shot. we're told by military sources on the ground of military gunships engaging isis forces in baghdad baghdadi. it's been taken over by isis troops and now contested, which
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means iraqi forces are fighting back there. they have air support. it appears in close combat but that deployment earlier in the day of u.s. apaches shows how significant a threat this is to deployed gun ships and it's not a ground combat role but it is a combat role and there's real danger there. >> no it is different. they're there because they need to be there, jim. is there a sense that they are necessary for the safety of the military personnel at that base? >> i think that's the reason you wouldn't deploy them if you didn't think they weren't necessary. pentagon officials caution all times during the assault earlier today, the u.s. military personnel, some 300 of them and additional 100 coalition personnel at al assad. if they were a number of kilometers away because this is so big, the attack on one side and they were on the other side. with al baghdadi on the other
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side. isis could attack tomorrow or the next day. they're in a good position there to threaten the base with the u.s. forces are now. >> all kinds of terminology being tossed around in washington about enduring missions ground combat missions offensive combat missions. the fact of the matter shows u.s. troops are very much in danger. >> bobby goesh said earlier today, our analyst, said the administration has been economical with the facts about u.s. combat u.s. proximity to combat. the fact they are not ground combat forces. they don't have a combat mission but as you have more military forces forward deployed they're now in four bases outside of baghdad at al assad, in tagi just south of baghdad and by ur beale jn beale. close to where isis has territory and isis carried out attacks. so, you know if they're not in combat move them closer to combat and admiral kirby
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acknowledged this today. they're certainly facing more danger. >> jim sciutto, thank you so much. let's talk about the reasons that's happening. former cia officer and middle east bob bare and mark hertling who knows the reason very well. let's start with the helicopter gun ship in combat in that part of iraq. what are the capabilities and the risks of using this type of weaponry? these helicopters fly at a lower altitude than the aircrafts in the bombing runs. >> john they give you distinct capabilities. they're going to loiter in the air. the optics are extremely good. you can see anywhere from 5 to 10 kilometers with the optics in some of these type of aircraft. they have weapon packages consist not only of guns but iron missiles as well. they have a standoff capability. they can stay back from the fight and still see what's going on and launch things at it.
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but one of the more important things they have is a lazing capability. an aircraft can stay away from the fight. it can actually hover over or at least close to al assad air base see into the town of al al-baghdadi al-baghdadi, not a big city. and then they could just pick up targets to allow lazing of those targets so air force or navy aircraft could actually hit targets with better weapons system from a higher altitude. so it's a pretty good team. it's called a joint air attack team and it's a pretty good capability with attack aircraft in the area. >> and bob, the 300 military personnel or so could be more who are at that base training the iraqis isn't this the kind of scenario feared by many people the u.s. troops on the ground there would be at risk because of isis intentions?
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>> well john i think what we're seeing here is mission creep. and the iraqi army is not up to the task. and without the united states air force and the military on the ground a lot of these, you know bases would be overrun. on the side of baghdad, you have some shia millyitias. they're clearly on the offensive. hit al-baghdadi. took it this morning, 19%. moving around to crete and other parts of western iraq and they still have stronghold on the arab sunnis of iraq without the u.s. in there. who knows which way this battle could go. >> which way is the battle going to go? the iraq military how good are they? do they have the training to battle isis? they weren't able to push back
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from the initial assault on the air base. >> well i disagree with bob a little bit. i think the iraqi army has gotten a bad rap, john. and i fought with and trained with sunni and sunni shiite kurd. in iraq became dysfunctional because, a, they weren't paid. b, they had extremely poor leaders and c, they didn't have the support of the government. so they fell apart. i think you would do the same thing if you weren't being paid and not supported by your bosses and somebody came in and said they were going to cut your head off. they are growing back. the leadership is getting better. mr. albade washed away the shia commanders and put new people in charge. it's going to take time. it is going to take time. by the way, the people training at al assad air base the
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marines they're working with are sunni tribes men. this is the new national guard initiative mr. albadi put together. heir going to fight for tribal areas in western iraq. i think the iraqi government is getting it back together and yes, they do need help from coalition forces u.s. forces right now. but they're coming around and they realize what a scourge this organization is. >> i'm glass half full on this. >> this is all happening in iraq with iraqi ground troops where there are american troops there training. and isis is battling at least to a standstill in some cases. how does that bode for what's happening in syria where there's no coalition ground presence to speak of? >> well you know, if you're looking, if you're a top fearing muslim the atlantic game is the only in town and you see thousands of recruits flowing in from saudi arabia central asia. this morning, bases were taken
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over by al qaeda. some of those al qaeda groups sworn allegiance to the islamic state. so, you know i still look at the islamic state as a disease, an epidemic. which you really can't judge the speed of. as general hertling said do we have enough time to train the iraqi army? in fact he's absolutely right. the malaki how fast can we do it? >> bob bear, mark hertling thank you for being with us. quick reminder set your dvr to watch "360" whenever you'd like. the woman who spoke eloquently with anderson about the brother of murder who calls it open season against islam. her words in the latest on the chapel hill murder investigation. that's coming up. and later, you've heard all the grown-ups argue about measles and the measles outbreak. we'll introduce you to the four-month old living breathing
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when bareakatbarakat, she was shocked at the murder of deah new bride and sister. after the memorial of last night with outpouring of support from the muslim community to which she belongs but also the entire community, miss barakat talked with jake tapper. saying the killing was not about a long running parking dispute as local police said and thanking for seeing three as the americans they were and also said this. >> and it's currently an open season against islam, muslims in general, media. dehumanizing muslims in movies like "american sniper." it's incredibly inspiring right now to see thate love for country being reciprocated. >> the fbi is now investigating these murders.
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earlier today, president obama offered his condolences. joining us with more on the investigation, jason carroll in chapel hill. what's the very latest? >> reporter: well the investigation is still looking very much like this was a case of a man who had a grudge over parking spaces. he took that grudge out on a number of people in the neighborhood. the question that a lot of people are asking who support the victims is why did he turn all of his rage and violence on this one particular family? that's what one young woman is asking herself tonight. she heard the gunfire when it happened and called 9-1-1. >> i just keep hearing their screams in my head and it's weird for me because it's like i heard them alive and then i heard them struggling. and then i heard them dead. and it's really emotional. >> so you spoke to other neighbors about this shooter. had they had run-ins with him? >> reporter: yeah a lot of emotion from a number of neighbors. one in particular derek schuh,
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had a run-in when he parked in the wrong spot. basically said the suspect became agitated with him and it wasn't just with neighbors he had a problem with. at one point, john he called a tow truck company so many times that the tow truck company considered him a nuisance and stopped responding to his calls. >> and there were new warrants issued today. what's that all about? >> reporter: that's correct. police were able to confiscate several weapons from the suspect's home. this is something that they expected when law enforcement source telling cnn that under questioning, he admitted he was a gun enthusiast and guns in the home. guns were legally owned. >> jason carroll for us in chapel hill. jason, thank you so much. whatever the final outcome turns to be no denying the larger proposition where tension exists where islam in american meets non-muslim in america. at the least, there's friction and sometimes there are sparks. case in point, a school in southern california that like many across the country, teaches
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about the world's major religions, islam included. reporting for cnn, here's ann-marie anderson. >> whether it's jesus christ boou da any specific religion it's the one true god. that's when you cross the line. >> reporter: when keith johnson and judy diatela moved to california, they were thrilled their son would attend the top middle school in the state. last fall, their child came with a homework assignment they found unsettling. >> one of the things they had to write was allah was one true god. that's prophetizing. >> reporter: some parents object to children being taught about islamic principles in school. in maryland a father banned from the grounds after his opposition to a class about
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islam turned into a heated argument. in north carolina a facebook video of a woman objecting to what she called religious language in a high school vocabulary test went viral. a november school board meeting in florida addressing the islam issue was postponed amid security concerns. >> we're testing equality for all religions or take them all out. >> reporter: in california the johnsons removed their son from the seventh grade social sciences class for three weeks until the islam portion of the class was complete. and brought their objections to the manhattan beach school district board meeting in december. superintendent mike matthews defends the curriculum and maintains it falls within the state frame work. >> we are teaching about the religions, not preaching about the religions. >> what was the point? >> they were saying the five pillars of islam and supposed to write them down and write the declaration of faith, so he even said to him, it seems weird.
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he didn't feel comfortable doing it. >> schools generally don't have to make any students comfortable with the curriculum. >> reporter: david is a constitutional law expert at the university of southern california. >> if the school is being objective about something and not the supposed truth of religious principles then it's largely legal obligations. >> reporter: the family emphasizes they have no objection to their son learning the history of any religion but say so much time and delved so deeply into the faith of islam, a line has been crossed. >> the children are coming home bu buddha is the one true god. it's a different playing field. you give the child an equal chance to choose. >> reporter: but matthews insists there's no extra emphasis on islam and his district followed the law. >> just because a student is writing something down it
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doesn't mean they have to believe it. >> >>. >> reporter: not good enough for her. ann-marie anderson for cnn, los angeles. up next a face of the measles outbreak. a four-month old baby who got the virus, his parents outraged how he got injected in the first place. and plus now we know why the supreme court justice ruth bader ginsburg during the address. over 21 answer when "360" continues. . it's a fact. kind of like shopping hungry equals overshopping.
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measles outbreak is slowing down. according to the cdc, so far released 121 cases nationwide. most linked to disneyland. there are fears tonight that the number will rise. california health officials warned thousands of riders of the san francisco area bart subway system they may have been exposed to measles. an infected man on six trains last week and meanwhile, a four month old baby who went to disneyland got infected and parents now concerned they
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exposed a lot of people at restaurants and other places before they knew their son was ill. gary tuchman has their story. >> reporter: this is what the measles outbreak in california looks like. a four month old baby named mobius loop too long to have the vaccine but not too young to have the measles. these are pictures of mobius took last week. >> i was just stunned. it's hard to believe the first time he got sick he got measles. >> reporter: ariel and christopher loop who live in pasadena have been able to take their only child out of home isolation after he got a illness in disneyland. 13 days after the visit to disney that ariel noticed -- >> he's been rubbing his eyes a lot so i thought maybe he had allergies or something. i was going through a list of what i'd eaten because he's
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breast-fed or used new soaps, anything new. >> reporter: but you weren't thinking measles? >> not that night. >> reporter: but mobius had trouble breathing and a rash on his body. his parents rushed to the pasadena hospital where tests were taken that would ultimately confirm their baby was a victim of measles. mobius was given a mask and started receiving treatment. his parents started panic. >> i was terrified. i kept thinking you know, what's going to happen if i lose him and i just, i couldn't. i couldn't lose him. i would start thinking that and just had to stop myself. >> reporter: what was the worst point for your son? >> the worst point was probably day two or three after the rash because his fever was still really high and he looked horrible and just kept rubbing his eyes and rubbing his eyes and he just had the hardest time sleeping. >> reporter: while ariel and christopher were frightened how sick their son was getting, they had a parallel fear. a fear that they'd inadd ver
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tantly put hundreds if not thousands others at risk. in the four days before they knew he was sick they had gone to this restaurant and this restaurant. this store and this store. and it's the four days before a rash appears and the four days after that infected people can spread measles. >> in a couple days if the numbers start growing, it's just going to be it's horrible. i just feel horrible and that was all i kept telling the health department the doctors. i was just like we were out so much. we've been out to eat, you know, we were all over town. >> reporter: how do you feel about it chris? >> it kills me. like i know how i felt going through this and i wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. >> eyes still bothering him. still rubbing his face. >> reporter: mobius' mother is a childhood nurse and a strong advocate of vaccines.
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bitter about people who decide not to vaccinate children. >> their believes could have potentially caused lifelong issues for my son or killed him and it's infuriating really when it comes down to it. >> he's everything. like i made this. i made this it, you know just the idea of losing him was just i don't. yeah it was really scary. >> reporter: gary tuchman, cnn, pasadena california. >> mobius slept through the entire interview. what can you do to protect you or your children from measles? chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta. so sanjay what you saw in gary piece, this couple's baby was just a few months old, too young to get the measles vaccination. so what do you do if you have a kid that's too young to get vaccinated? >> well that is why this
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principle of what is known as herd immunity matters so much. it means that when you're getting your child vaccinated you're helping your child, preventing your child from getting infection but helps others as well. think of it as the people who can't get vaccinated and besides too young, other people as well that can't get vaccinated. people who may be have a certain, cancer or compromised immune system women that are pregnant or may become pregnant. it's a pretty big group when you put it all together. but if there are a lot of people vaccinated in the country, over 90%, you essentially think of those people as developing a sort of herd around people who can't get vaccinated they kind of prevent the measles virus from getting in to the vulnerable people. >> what can places like disneyland or the bart system with people in and around them is there a way to disinfect or clean in any special way? >> they do disinfect. they clean surfaces as much as
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you can. the difference with the measles virus and different than a lot of other viruses is when they say it's contagious part of the reason is it can linger in the air. it can't linger in the air forever or perpetuity but it can linger there for a while. in addition to cleaning the surfaces they've got to give it a period of time where they make sure the measles vaccine is not circulating through the air around there as well. my understanding is that what disney focused on after some of the first cases. >> if you are exposed to someone with measles or get on one of the subway cars or someone had measles, what are your chances of catching it if you're not vaccinated? >> it's kind of amazing john because remember we talked about ebola and that was difficult to catch. consider these numbers. if you are not vaccinated and come into contact with measles, you have a 90% chance of getting the the infection. it's quite contagious. there aren't many things as contagious as this virus. on the other hand if you are
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vaccinated it goes from 90% to 3% chance of getting an infection. it's not a perfect vaccine, not going to 100% protect you but it gives a lot of protection. >> where are we in terms of where the measles have spread in the united states? >> we have some new numbers here. when we look at them we have 113 cases. that's up three from wednesday. that was the last update. now 18 states and d.c. most of them linked to disneyland. so, you know people are seeing what's going on. we see a slight uptick in people wanting to get the vaccine. so the message does seem to be getting through to some extent but it's remarkable john. just think about that. one case in disneyland and that map that you just saw. that's how quickly something like this can spread. we live in a different world than 100 years ago and things move quickly. i think it makes the vaccine much stronger. >> it was coast to coast.
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year's state of the union address, you might have noticed that supreme court justice ruth bader ginsburg was looking a bit, shall we say, disinterested at times. now justice ginsburg has confirmed that she did indeed fall asleep and there was a perfectly reasonable explanation. >> the audience for the most part is awake because they're bobbing up and down all the time. and we sit there, stone faced. sober judges. but we're not, at least i wasn't 100% sober because before we went to the state of the union, we had dinner together. this year just stay away from
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the wine but in the end. the dinner was so delicious, it needed to wine to accompany it. >> it needed the wine. that was an interview by nina totenburg with anthony scalia and ginsburg. buddies with vacation which they ride elephants together. cnn senior analyst and preeminent supreme court writer jeffrey toobin joins me now with more. so jeff now we know why they have lifetime appointments so they can go to the state of the union hammered. >> there's your answer. berman here's the thing you have to know. ruth ginsburg and marty ginsburg were married for many years, and marty was a very outgoing funny, life of the party type person and ruth was really very quiet. but marty died in 2010. and over the last four plus years, ruth has turned into a notorious rbg.
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this is the new ruth ginsburg. she's telling stories. she's getting hammered in public. this is it's quite a change. >> look. it's wonderful from the perspective of we don't get to see the supreme court justices unplugged. we don't get to see behind the robes, if you will forgive me for that but here you saw ruth bader ginsburg and anthony scalia have this conversation out in the open and it was lovely. >> and those two have been friends for pushing 30 or 40 years. they serve together on the d.c. circuit before either of them was appointed to the united states supreme court and both of them have been on the supreme court for more than 20 years. so you're talking about people who have been colleagues for a very long time their friends were very close. in fact the ginsburgs and the scalias historically celebrated new year's eve every year since the supreme court. >> along those lines, they've
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taken vacations together. let me show you a picture, a clip at least of them talking about riding an elephant in india. >> some of her feminist friends gave me a hard time or her a hard time because she rode behind me on the elephant. big deal. i'm not kidding. >> it was, the driver explained it was a matter of distribution of weight. >> it's like they have to take this show on the road here. they're great. their timing is fantastic. >> there's history there too because marty ginsburg was a famous great chef. and anthony scalia is a famous great eater. so that's why they like to have dinner together so often because there was a real meeting between them as justice ginsburg pointed out. >> now talking about riding elephant in india is fantastic but there is something serious that is a lesson for all of us. the supreme court, there is
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fierce fierce partisanship and they really come from different sides of the aisle judicially speaking here. yet they find a way to be friends personally. that's remarkable. and washington really used to work that way. and there are various explanations for why it's much less true than it used to be in congress but in the supreme court, they really do still make an effort to get along with each other, notwithstanding, their very very serious disagreements. >> you know better than anybody, jeff. are there other friendships like this behind the scenes? >> certainly, you have a friendship between ruth bader ginsburg and alena kagen, if you look generation after generation kagen is younger than ruth bader ginsburg's actual daughter. it gives you an idea of how different in age they are. justice alito as well.
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they really are very very careful to get along with each other on an interpersonal level because they're stuck with each other for decade after decade. >> decade after decade. imagine that, make the best. they were having a great time and enjoying each other. jeffrey toobin thanks so much. coming up incredible video of a runaway school bus with 11 children on board. details ahead and next, another stunning loss for journalism. remembering the new york times david carr. [ female announcer ] we help make secure financial tomorrows a reality for over 19 million people. [ susan ] my promotion allowed me to start investing for my retirement. transamerica made it easy. [ female announcer ] everyone has a moment when tomorrow becomes real. transamerica. transform
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distinctive voices in american journalism has fallen silent. new york times david carr collapsed in the newsroom last night and pronounced dead in new york hospital. just 58 years old. in his memoir the night of the gun describes only as he could the only way from crack addict to office of the times, the newspaper he loved. the night before he died the car was on this program speaking with anderson about brian williams. >> the problem is of course when you work in the studio there's no one applauding
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right? and then you get in these venues where people applaud or don't applaud and you want to make the room bounce even as a reporter i get in certain public situations and i end up cracking lines because you want the room to bounce. you want the room to love you. it's only natural. we are all at bottom entertainers. no one wants to be the boring guy sitting out there, so you could see how that could get away from you. a little bit. especially him, he's got very significant skills. >> absolutely. >> he's super funny. >> yeah yeah. well you're never the boring guy in the room and i appreciate you being on. >> thank you for having me anderson. >> his death came during a week when the story tellers became the story over and over and over. >> just a short time ago, got word "60 minutes" correspondent bob simon died. >> more than any week we can
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remember in the history of the business the news was the news -- >> columnist david carr died at the age of 58. >> and the news was bad, all of it. the world of journalism became less smart, less brave, less wry, less credible. >> it is time for someone else to have that opportunity. >> the word came that jon stewart was leaving "the daily show" in a few months and brian williams was leaving the nightly news for at least a few months you wanted to hear from david carr. >> there's never been a number one anchor that has tumbled all the way. >> but when word came that the perpetual glimpse in his eye, it was gone forever. what you wanted you just wanted to cry. >> i don't know what we're going to do without him. he was the best and most important media reporter of our time. >> for those who say it's a case of media self-absorption, no.
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it's a shock to the system, any system when you lose an idol your critic your scribe and your marrings all at once. you can't read the way you did two days ago. >> two rockets passing underneath the helicopter i was riding. >> in the case of brian williams who say it's a feeding frenzy a case of piling on. no there is no delight, just dread. too many people worked too hard for too long reporting the facts and telling the stories. the real stories to engage. >> this is as real as most advanced position. >> bob simon went everywhere. if there was war, he was there. suffering, he was there. unanswered questions, he was there. he spent 40 days as a prisoner in saddam hussein's iraq died in a car crash in manhattan. >> every aspect of your life. >> and jon stewart?
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well david carr wrote mr. stewart will leave his desk and arguably the most trusted man in news. maybe. stewart himself always said what he did was fake news even if the targets were real. but his presence at that desk will be missed. >> bri! why? >> he held up a mirror to our industry. so we need it. yeah it's sad he is going but when we look in that mirror now there are too many faces missing. and that that's tragic. what a week. there is a lot more happening tonight. gary tuchman is back with a "360" bulletin. gary? >> john a police officer testified aaron hernandez's trial that the former nfl star got agitated when asked why his rental keys were found in the pocket of odin lloyd hours after lloyd was murdered. hernandez was arrested 11 days
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later and pleaded not guilty. oregon's long time governor stepped down. kitzhaber, said he was a liability to his state. including work his fiance did for energy company and a runaway school bus in minnesota. 11 children on board when the driver in central minnesota had a medical emergency. he swerved on and off the road over 14 terrifying minutes. at one point, another driver put his car in reverse to avoid a head-on collision with the bus. a quick thinking state trooper warned other drivers with flashing lights and tire deflation devices used to finally stop the bus. no children were hurt. no word on how the bus driver is doing tonight. that was an after-school adventure nobody wanted john. >> those kids are lucky. thank you gary. in honor of president's day on monday cnn anchors face off game-show style to test our knowledge in presidential
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>> i've been doing this everyday. thousand times a day. >> he asks me which president had 15 children i said i don't know. >> i want tapper to go down. i'm in the middle of my show and asking stupid questions about the president. >> we actually really like each other. >> erin and i sat down with anderson to talk about our undeniable strengths as a team. >> this focus is on the presidents so theoretically i guess you could have read stuff about the presidents but did you feel like you had a good knowledge? >> i think at this stage of your life there's nothing more you can do. the problem is we have these other jobs here. and there's not a lot of other free time to bump up on rutherford b. hays. >> i go back to my jeopardy experience. the first time i was on jeopardy i won and it was the dumbed down
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celebrity version, so i don't want to toot my own horn too much but you panicked because i could be revealed as somebody who doesn't know anything. there's a finite number of presidents so you had that going in. you thought that it could just be about the presidents but it turns out, you know, the universe of subject matter they talk about beyond the president, pets for instance and all of the sudden pets were very important to the executives. >> i was running for the fact they have mistresses and i was hoping that might come up because i had learned a little bit about those. >> john berman you apparently went to harvard. >> that's true. >> a university which has more presidents or a college that has more presidents graduates than any other. can you name? >> i didn't go to school but let's be clear, not like we were roommates but two adams. two rooz velts, teddy, franklin. john f. kennedy and then barack
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obama got a law degree. george w. bush got a business degree. here's the one. rutherford b. hays. >> he's so self-deprecating. like i wouldn't know and then boom boom. >> if you asked me presidents from my college, i would know. i. >> my college? >> i didn't know where you went to college. >> i went to williams and there's one president who went to williams. >> not so easy with the cue cards. >> mr. game show host. >> garfield. what's amazing is he was assassinated on the way to williams college reunion. i said if garfield comes up or one of the mistresses i'll be okay. >> listen you guys were great sports and good competitors. i'm not going to say who won but very good competitors. i look forward to everyone getting a chance to see it. >> thanks anderson. >> so whether you like tip pi
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