shooting as the one we're seeing right now, unfolding right now, where somebody as you said but shot in the head. this is all very unusual happening in copenhagen, isn't that right, ashford? >> reporter: it is. we have known for several years that we might have some kind of terrorist attack in copenhagen or in denmark, but it hasn't actually happened before now. there has been situations before where people was planning to do some kind of attack, but the police have been studying them every time. this is the first time that the prime minister and the head of police actually tells us that we consider this to be a terrorist attack that has been happening. >> what has the prime minister said today, authorities said today to try and keep people calm and safe?

it is obviously a dangerous situation. >> reporter: it is a dangerous situation according to police and to the prime minister. she tells us she met with the press just on the scene of the first shooting, and she was very serious, she said, but the next couple of dais will be difficult in denmark. and we should stick together. we would not tolerate an attack in denmark. he also asked everybody to keep an eye out, to be watchful, and if anybody sees anything out of the ordinary, contact the police because we don't know what will happen but we are on high alert. >> all right, ashford. stay close by. we may be coming to you in just a few moments. first back to bob baer, our counterterrorism expert, former cia analyst. obviously when you hear about a second shooting, we're getting reports it may have been near a synagogue, and there are people

wounded, one person, maybe more, what's your take on all of this? >> well, first of all, denmark is a very accommodating country for immigrants, takes good care of them. other than these blasphemy accusations against, you know, danish journalists and cartoonists and the rest of it, it is not a natural place for a battle to break out in the center of town. the danish police are good but this has never really been a problem even when there was palestinian terrorism. this is brand-new and makes me wonder if there's not some sort of offensive from the islamic state. of course we don't know it was the islamic state that carried out the attacks. >> also possible, bob, and we don't know yet if these two

shoot rgs related although ashford sandberg says it's highly unusual to not only have one but both incidents on the same day. possible police -- and this is all of course unfolding right now -- possible that police may have caught up with this individual that they were looking for. earlier today we had heard that it was two gunmen and then just about an hour and a half ago we heard, no, authorities believe it was just one gunman involved in that terrorist attack on that free speech event involving the danish artist -- or the scandinavian artist lars vilks there in denmark. >> -- attack on a place that was guarded as well. the danes were prepared for this. they coordinate closely with the french, the united states, but the problem is these groups are using encrypted communications and global -- mobile wi-fi.

what's surprising for me is denmark is not the kind of place where you can easily get a hold of weapons. these people are much better organized than al qaeda was ten years ago using imp rho viced explosives. these people are at war. >> i lost you there, bob. are you still there on the line with us? >> i'm still here. these people are at war. the fact they're using weapons rather than imp rho viced explosives says this has gone beyond al qaeda into something more organized and potentially more dangerous. >> okay. i just want to let our control room know they are interrupting your audio, bob. i cannot hear you anymore. so if they could disconnect that so i can continue to hear you. but, bob, if you stop talking i'm just going to keep talking here and ask you to weigh in on this issue that the obama

administration is very concerned about, and that is this threat posed by radical extremisextrem violent extremists, people who might come from the west, the united states, western europe, and then travel down to syria, get training, fight along people like isis, and then come back to the west, come back to western europe, back to the united stat states. later on this week, the obama administration is holding a counterextremism summit. one of the countries that has a big problem in this area is denmark. what do you make of that? seems strange denmark would have this kind of issue. >> it's not because there are a lot of danish going to battlefields, learning about weapons and explosives, and they could also come to united states, all they'd need to do is register, take a flight in, and

tracking these people is virtually impossible. they could pick up weapons, explosives. this is a military assault in paris, now in copenhagen, and these people are ready to hit the united states and we are clearly a target. i think it's a matter of time. >> what is the answer here to this problem? you can't turn the airports into fort resres fortresses. security is already so tight and restrictive it frustrates travelers on a basis. travelers have been frustrated for so long. and they're trued traveler programs and the like. but what can we do to stop this flow back and forth of these extremists heading to the middle east, coming back and potentially carrying out these kinds of attacks? >> i'd like to give you an optimistic prognosis here, but the problem is that the islamic state wants us to come into the

middle east, they call us crusaders, they don't even mind the bombing because they think that brings in more recruit, and if they capture more hostages or attack the continental united states, they believe that we'll be forced into the middle east where there would be some sort of cataclysmic battle. i know this sound crazy to you and me, but this is the way these people think. >> all right. bob, hang with us if you can. we're going to go to a quick break and come back, reset, and try to get more information on this latest shooting. keep in mind, we're not talking about the shooting that happened earlier today at the free speech event involving the artist lars vilks from sweden. that was repelled by hi own security force. this is a separate second shooting that has taken place in copenhagen near a synagogue from what we understand. we believe one person has been injured and we're going to try to get the latest. [ female announcer ] we help make secure financial tomorrows a reality

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i'm jim acosta in washington. we are following the breaking news in copenhagen. a new shooting, second shooting in that city today. we are following developments on the ground. our bob baer. now to our cnn producer in copenhagen, susan gargiulo on the phone right now. i know that this is sort of a late-breaking, you know, constantly developing story, minute by minute, what can you tell us right now as far as what we know about this second shooting? >> hi, jim. yeah, the latest we know is basically three people are shot, one is shot in the head and two are hit by shots in the arm and leg. basically the police are not saying anything yet. it's too early to say yet if the shooting is related to yesterday's shooting, the earlier one, but we still know

nothing about what happened to the injured. shooter has apparently escaped on foot from the scene according to police. and they have issued a description of this man. that's about all we know right now, but basically three more people are shot, which makes it six in the span of less than 12 hours in the center of copenhagen. heavy, heavy drama here, police all over the city. they've issued a statement saying it is not safe to be in the street. this is a time of night and a time of the week when there are just oceans of young people out in the clubs and some of the things i'm watching is they basically are not quite understanding how serious the situation is. they've been drinking, party, but they're basically clearing the streets now. i've never seen anything like this before in this city. you were just giving us new

information we did not have until you reported it moments ago. three people shot in the latest shooting, one in the head, two others who were also shot, more lightly wounded than this person shot in the head. >> yes. >> my question is we were hearing earlier reports about half an hour ago that this second shooting may have occurred near a synagogue. is that your understanding as well? >> yes, it is. it is near a synagogue, but whether or not it's related to the synagogue is impossible to say. it's basically right in the center of copenhagen so it could be, who knows, is it random, the synagogue, they're basically not saying anything yet, the police. they're not speaking pup. i also also there was a report from another of the news bureaus. they were just reporting that they saw armed vehicles, military driving around in the street, and the military will not confirm this, and the police

are not saying anything, but it could seem that the situation is escalating and they're basically pulling as much into the streets as they can now. but again, we just don't know anything yet. it's too soon to tell. >> right. >> it's developing minute by minute so, i don't have a lot to tell you about this last incident aside from the fact that one person is shot in the head and two were hit by shots in arm and the leg is what they're saying. >> i think you're right on target saying we should not race ahead of the facts here. you said the shooter escaped on foot. you're talking about the shooter from the second scene -- >> yes, i am. >> -- escaped on foot according to police. >> that is according to the police, and i'm sure according to eyewitnesses, but that's not what they say. according to the press release, they simply say he has escaped on foot from the scene. >> let me ask you about this,

because i was talking act this with our other reporter we were talking to earlier this hour, and she was saying that it is unusual for this kind of violent activity to be taking place in copenhagen. you don't see shootings like this on a regular basis. so to have two in the course of 12 hours as you said you don't want to say that they're connected without conclusive proof and that kind of confirmation coming from law enforcement. but it's obviously a suspicious thing that these two incidents have happened so close together. >> yes. i'm sure there will be a lot of speculation, but more so i think we can really expect some shock from people that live here and in general because this is just something that -- the fact, i mean, for me as a danish person and a reporter, just watching, you know, this the streets just police everywhere, streets shut down, people being told this is not safe, i mean, this seems like a war zone, frankly, in my

subjective view as i'm watching this. it's quite frightening. and i'm sure lit frighten most people here. these are not things that happen on a normal basis. here you can basically walk the streets at night in the dark and feel safe. of course there are some certain gang-related areas you may not go into but they're few and far between. this is really highly unusual. so it will be a shock to people in denmark when they wake up unless they're all sitting around watching this, which i assume a lot of them are. it's very unusual and will be frightening for them. >> the reason why you say this is unusual not only because of the violence that broke out in copenhagen today but also because as you said, it is so eerily quiet, it sounds from your description on the streets of copenhagen right now, you described it as kind of a war zone when streets maybe shut down and it would sus just be completely quiet. normally these streets would be

teeming with young people going out for the night, having a good time. i mean, can you paint that picture for us? >> that's right. i mean, the picture is basically normally these deep dooep parts of town, talking about downtown where people go out and party, will will be people walking on the streets in loot of these areas and police are basically shooing them off the streets. all you see is a lot of police car, a lot of police. as we heard the earlier reporter say, you know, they've pulled out every single police officer into this overnight. so they're all out on the streets. and it just never -- it's never been seen like this before. it's really quite unusual. and one of the things that the local newspaper was reporting earlier is that eyewitnesses were saying they were -- they were running around in peems gardens in and out as if they were chasing people in certain areas.

so there's a massive -- i mean basically the picture is just a massive manhunt, and there are people on the streets supposedly and possibly with guns that are quite dangerous, and they don't know where they are. so they're taking all of precaution they can. that is basically what the picture looks like. and we don't know where they are. we don't know where the guns are. so, you know, they're doing what they can to protect us. it would be as unusual a situation to the police as it is for people that live here, obviously. >> let's pause for just a moment and reflect on what we know right now, suzanne. three people shot in this in koep en -- koepen hagan. that caking please near a synagogue. it may be there on the corner,

and it is important to point out that this st tis the second shog in this city in denmark in the last 12 hours. the one that happened earlier today happened at a free speech event that featured larceny vilks who is known for his clark drawings of muhammad. >> we were panicking in the room and trying to get out of different doors, and we could hear shots in the street after wards. even though we were on our way out of one door, we stayed inside and were were just hiding, trying to -- turning tables over, and anything that

we could hide behind. >> dennis, how were you able to escape? what was that like? >> we didn't escape from the rule at all. we stayed in the room and we were just hoping that the asa shooter would not come into the room. it turned out to be someone from the danish intelligence services that was not interested in doing us any harm and he was doing a different door. we could see he was bleeding, and then another finding we heard the police cars all around. we simply stayed inside the building. >> dennis, if i could jump in, when this all started happening, what was clear who the attackers

were coming for? for the ar coopist? >> itthere was a lot of securits before, reich a security check thing. of course we knew it might be an issue, of course nobody expected something like this. but when i heard the person yell in what i think was at that part, i thought it was probably an islamist terrorists or something. >> and that was an eyewitness to the attack earlier today in copenhagen. we will be keeping an eye on the events there. law enforcement in france, the u.k., spain, belgium, greece,

denmark, and germany have made hundreds of arrests trying to smoke out these sleeper cells. bob, these countries all other to find suspected terrorists, what is that work like? it must be a pain staking task, but in some cases a race against time in. >> it is a race against time. they have advanced computers, they're running algorithms through phone calls, intercepts, they combine these databases. the problem is these cells in europe don't call back to syria or iraq for instructions. so you're hunting for a needle in ahaystack.

i will tell you what disturbs me the most. these people clearly had weapons training and they were taught how to do a military assault. you don't attack a place that is well protected and get it together and shoot it out. these people have said they have gone to some combat area. taught to use weapons. taught not to flinch when the shooting starts. and this is of course our greatest fear. we all considered this a couple years ago. there is a prediction that a lot of people made as i did, and that is what is coming to pass. >> and bob, i heard the president talk about this and one thing that he says, and he said this recently at a news conference, is that the western

european problem is different from the problem in the united states. the problem in the united states is such that it is not as severe. you have muslim american populations that are blending in with the rest of the country. in western denmark, you have whole communities where it is just very self segregated and there is not as much of that melting pot atmosphere going on. does some of that lead to a temptation to be lured into an extremist lifestyle? to be lured down to syria and into this sort of thing? >> it does, but the problem is scandinavia takes more care. i worked with the police and they go out of their way to integrate people. build mosques, social welfare,

language training, the psychologists -- this is why it is such a shock. denmark is not conflict to anyone in the middle east. so you're seeing jihadists are taking this play book, everything is in black and white, and they're at war with the west. as we were talking about earlier, they consider blasphemy a sentence of death. they don't pay attention to danish laws, and you see it reflected in the war. when they're slaughtering people. so this form of islam, i can't say what i have seen last, but it is nothing extraordinary. it is an epidemic and it worries me that this is connected to yemen, and the shiia government.

do you will see another civil war and more blowback will come to the west. >> bob, we will get back to you appreciate those insights. we're going to come back in just a few moments and we're going to try to reset the scene in ko copenhagen. things are developing quickly. there has been another shooting in addition to the one that happened earlier today. we understand there is a new shooting near a synagogue. three people shot, we'll have more when we come back.d 58 seconds on the clock, what am i thinking about? foreign markets. asian debt that recognizes the shift in the global economy. you know, the kind that capitalizes on diversity across the credit spectrum and gets exposure to frontier and emerging markets. if you convert 4-quarter p/e of the s&p 500, its yield is doing a lot better... if you've had to become your own investment expert,

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we're following breaking news in denmark. the center of copenhagen is shut down after a second deadly shooting after one that we saw earlier today at a city cafe. people are telling -- police are telling people it is unsafe to be on the streets and they're telling people to go inside. authorities cannot say if the shootings are related but this is the man they're looking for in the first attack. there is a forecast of him right there. you see he appears to be on the phone there. there is also a car, we saw a picture of a car that