home. i'm skeptical. that's it for "inside politics." that's it for sunday morning. "state of the union" starts right now. terror hits denmark. isis threatens u.s. troops in iraq. and a former defense secretary says president obama made mistakes in the fight against terror. this is "state of the union." >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. and good morning from washington. i'm jim accosta. following breaking news from denmark which is reeling from a terror attack. a gunman opened fire saturday at a cafe near a synagogue in copenhagen leaving two people dead. the gunman may have been inspired by the paris attacks. let's go to cnn's nic robertson who is in copenhagen. nic, are police confident these

two attacks are linked? >> reporter: they are. they show the gunman coming back to this apartment between the attacks. they waited for him. that's when he returned home at about 4:50 in the morning. they challenged him. he shot back at them. they shot at him killing him. what they say they've discovered is when they shot him he had pistols on him. what they know about the first attack was that it was an attack with an automatic weapon possibly a machine pistol or a small machine gun. when they went into his apartment today they discovered that longer weapon that may be consistent with the weapon that was used in the first part of the attack. they've also discovered clothing in his apartment consistent with what they believe the first gunman was wearing. so there's a much higher degree of confidence from the police here now. the deputy prime minister has also said the same thing. they believe they've got the man who was behind both these attacks. what they're concerned about now and why security remains high is because they don't know if there

is -- if there are other perpetrators out there, other actors who are ready to sort of do copy cat type attacks or do something about this jim. >> nic, i know it's early in the investigation and it's not certain whether he acted alone. do they know at this point whether he traveled to join us with isis in syria, iraq, or elsewhere? >> reporter: you know the police aren't putting a name out yet. this is a community here where he lived that is quite a high immigrant community. i've spoken with a politician here today who's told me this is her constituency that the people here are worried because they feel like so many other people that this perhaps had and as the police have said islamist leadings an islamist type of attack. a lot of muslims live here so people are concerned. what connections he might have had to isis and other groups remains for the police on their

investigations but so far that's the direction the police seem to be looking by saying that this perhaps was inspired by the attack in paris on the cartoonists and on the kosher deli there as well. so this is the direction the police are looking in at the moment zblimjim. >> nic robertson, thank you. joining me now, leon panetta, thanks for joining us on "state of the union." >> nice to be with you, jim. >> let's jump into it. as you probably saw in recent days there was this pretty alarming attack on the al asad base and they were repelled by iraqi security forces. it was alarming in the fact that there are u.s. military personnel in that base involved with the training exercises with the iraqis. i'm curious. you said in your book the isis offensive in 2014 greatly increases the risk that iraq

will become al qaeda's next safe haven. is this what you were afraid of? >> what i see happening is that isis is -- truly represents kind of a whole new face in the war on terrorism. we're dealing with an enemy that is well funded. we're dealing with an enemy that has strong command and control and we're dealing with an enemy that is well armed. and as a result of that i think that they can conduct the kind of offensive operations that can be very effective and that have to be met tooth and nail with everything we've got. that's the reality. isis is a whole new chapter in terms of the terrorist threat to that area and to our country. >> the president as he was laying out this authorization for use of military force earlier this week made a pretty bold statement.

>> our coalition is on the offensive. isil is on the defensive and isil is going to lose. >> in your view is the u.s. and its coalition winning right now? >> i think the president has the right pieces in place to try to confront isis and obviously we've made some important gains in trying to stop their effort to try to gain additional territory in iraq. the key elements are obviously developing strong intelligence so we know what they're up to developing our counterterrorism operations with special forces using our air capability using other technologies building the kind of alliances that can help us developing the capacities of iraq and other countries to be able to confront them and ultimately dealing with the root causes of terrorism. all of that needs to be part of the strategy that is involved here. i think the problem i see is

that that strategy has to be bolstered in a strong way. we've got to be able to ensure that we are committed every day of the week towards making sure that this strategy works, that we disrupt, dismantle and ultimately defeat isis. >> before we talk more about the aumf let's talk about the battle against isis. and since leaving the white house you have said publicly that the u.s. should have armed those moderate rebels in syria a couple of years ago when that civil war was unfolding there. i'm just curious, you know do you think that would have made a difference at this point in this fight against isis? >> well you know there's no question in my mind that some mistakes were made here. presidents make mistakes but they also learn from those mistakes. i think the president has learned from those mistakes. it's going to take time. i'm more hopeful about the effort in iraq. i think ultimately we'll have a

pretty good chance of being able to push isis back out of iraq. the big question mark in my mind is syria and just exactly how long is it going to take us to be able to confront isis in syria because if they had a safe haven there, they may continue to be in trouble for some time. >> one thing i've heard from people at the white house, this was obviously the big debate when bashar al assad crossed president obama's red line the president had the decision to make whether he was going to bomb assad's forces in syria, he didn't do that he didn't enforce the red line. what white house officials will say now privately is had we done that isis would be in control of damascus right now. do you buy that argument? >> no not at all. i think had we gone in and made very clear that once assad made use of chemical weapons and crossed the line that the president of the united states

established, that we stand by our word and go after them. you know we are now conducting air attacks in syria. we're going after isis. we're going after those that represent the worst of terrorism in terms of their ability to strike not only there but in other places as well. i don't -- i think it's important to understand that this is not an enemy that you can kind of stand aside and not confront. if we stand aside, if we don't get involved if we don't provide leadership unfortunately, nobody else will. that's why it's important for us to take a leadership position here both in syria as well as in iraq as well as elsewhere in confronting terrorism. >> as you know mr. secretary, the president is -- has intended to get involved in a big ground war type operation in iraq or even in syria and it is sort of

built into or baked into that authorization of the use of military force against isis that the president proposed earlier this week or last week. he said that there would only be a three limit -- a three-year limit on that authorization. are you comfortable with putting an end date an expiration date on that authorization? do you think he has the flexibility that he needs to take on isis? >> you know i think it's important that the president has asked the congress to give him this authorization for military force. probably should have bon done six months ago, but am' glad that the president has sent this up. it's very important for the congress hopefully to unite both democrats and republicans and support this authorization. look i understand there will be some limits here. the president has struck a good balance. he has a lot of flexibility

built into this authorization which i think is important. the president as commander in chief needs flexibility in order to protect this country. at the same time it's obvious that nobody nobody wants a large ground war similar to what we did in iraq and afghanistan. limiting these kinds of enduring combat operations as part of this makes some sense. >> what does that phrase mean to you, enduring combat operations? some of your fellow democrats who say, we don't know what that means. >> well i think -- i think the bottom line here is that we are not going to go to war with 100, 150,000 troops the way we did in iraq and afghanistan. that's certainly what i envision in terms of the limits of our operation. >> i know you've been critical of the president's ability to rally congress to his cause, and one thing that you say in your book he does however, lack

fire. too often in my view the president relies on the logic of a law professor rather than the passion of a leader. if that is the case does he have what it takes to rally this congress to pass this authorization? >> i don't -- i don't think there's any question that the president could get this done, but it's going to -- it's going to take a continuing commitment. look you want to know what the biggest national security threat is to this country right now? it's the total dysfunction in washington. the fact that so little can be done by the congress. they can't even resolve the issue of homeland security. they can't deal with budgets. they can't deal with immigration reform. they can't deal with infrastructure. they can't deal with other issues. if they winds up not being able to deal with this war authorization, that sends a terrible message to the world. >> as you know the president is going to need a pentagon that will carry out this policy.

you served as desentencesstences -- defense secretary. pretty smooth confirmation process for ash carter confirmed as the next defense secretary. but you complained and i know your predecessor bob gates complained that the white house sometimes is too controlling when it comes to for policy. the president might rather listen to his national security team inside the white house rather than the view at the pentagon. what would be your advice to incoming secretary carter? >> i think he was my deputy when i get there. tremendous confidence in him. he's very bright. he knows the capabilities of the defense department. i think the president would not have nominated him to be secretary of defense if he wasn't willing to listen to ash

carter and the advice that he provides in the national security council. i think the role of secretary of defense and for that matter secretary of state is to present your most honest views of your department to the president of the united states to make sure that he understands what the best guidance and the best recommendations are. in the end it's the president who has to ultimately decide. >> and when we come back leon panetta on that spat between president obama and israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu, plus what he expects for hillary clinton in 2016.

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to plan, compare & book the perfect trip, visit tripadvisor.com today. welcome back. in part two of my interview with leon panetta, the conversation turned to the rift between president obama and israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. >> i don't like the way this developed. i don't know what was behind it. i don't know how it all happened but, you know we need to have a strong relationship with israel. they are -- they are an

important ally in a very difficult part of the world. i think we need to maintain a relationship of trust and confidence in each other, and i'm just afraid that what's going to happen here with you know what netanyahu will do is to make this a partisan divide between democrats and republicans, and that -- that makes it a very dangerous trend. >> should democrats boycott that speech do you think? >> look i'll leave that up to democrats to decide what they should do but i really do think that hopefully they could find some way to be able to listen to netanyahu's views without having it be used in this fashion to kind of set up what is clearly a kind of partisan presentation. we need to get back to presidents and congressses to get

together to work together on the challenges we face. >> another big issue that came up this past week was ukraine. you know the russians the ukrainians the germans and the french all agreed to the cease-fire deal but almost immediately after that cease-fire deal was announced, the state department was complaining that they were supplying anti-aircraft weaponry to pro russian rebels in eastern ukraine. as former cia director former defense secretary you might have insights into vladimir putin's mind. i don't know if you have a sense of his soul but as president bush once famously said but what do you think vladimir putin is after in the end here? i've got to ask the question here do you think he's playing with a full deck? >> look, he -- vladimir putin is not a mystery. we've seen him operate before. the intelligence community has nailed down pretty well what

putin is all about and putin is all about russia and expanding the influence of russia. he's about dividing the east from the west. he's about doing everything he can to regain influence over the former states of the soviet union, and he is somebody who will take advantage of other countries and weakness if he sees that. frankly, we've got to take a tougher stand against him because we're engaged in a whole new chapter of the cold war. >> president obama is not tough enough with president putin. >> pardon me? >> the president has not been tough enough with vladimir putin? >> i think the west needs to be much tougher. the west combined with the united states needs to be much tougher in drawing the line on vladimir putin. i think we ought to be providing military aid to the ukrainians. i think we ought to be bolstering nato. i think we ought to be doing everything we can to provide

other energy supplies so that russia isn't the only country that provides energy to those countries in that part of the world. i think we've got to take a number of steps here to make very clear to putin that he cannot simply use military power to be able to invade and take over another country. that simply cannot be allowed to happen. >> that includes weapons to ukraine? >> absolutely. >> on yemen, let me ask you about this because as you saw the u.s. embassy in sanaa close this past week as well as other foreign embassies, the president, the obama administration has held up yemen as something of a success story in recent years. is it still a success story, do you think? >> i'm afraid yemen has turned into another failed state in the middle east. you know i mean we've seen a number of failed states throughout the middle east. the problem is in yemen with the houthis having taken over supported by iran by the way,

that what we have now is chaos. and what it's doing is it's giving al qaeda a free hand to do what it wants to do in yemen. and i have to tell you that when you look at terrorist threats around the world, the one you have to worry about the most is al qaeda in yemen, aqap because they have the bomb-making capability and they have the other capabilities to basically do what they have to do to attack this country. they are a real danger. that's why we have operations there. that's why we're going after al qaeda there. and as a result of what's happened in yemen, i think it's going to impact on our capability to defend ourselves. >> i want to jump to politics if we can with the time that we have left. as you know hillary clinton is reportedly weighing a run for the presidency. you may have heard this in the news secretary panetta. >> yes, i have. >> you've worked in the clinton

white house before working in the obama white house. what do you make of this it seems to be almost sort of an internal debate in the pre-hillary clinton campaign as to when they should launch this campaign? what's taking them so long? >> well you know i really don't know the ins and outs of what they're operating with and their plans. i do know that she would make an outstanding candidate. i think she would be great for the democrats in terms of running for president, and i'm sure that at some point that will happen but, you know we're a long way from the presidential election and there's going to be a lot of puts and takes with a lot of candidates in the interim. so i think in the end there's no question in my mind that she will be a nominee for the democratic party. >> you've been critical at times of president obama, and i

shouldn't let you go without raising something that's come up in recent weeks. as you probably saw, valerie jarrett made some comments recently where she almost took a swipe at you, i think, and maybe bob gates in saying she said quote, i would not serve in an administration and then be critical of that administration. you are well known in washington secretary panetta, as being a party loyalist. do you regret some of the critical comments that you've made of president obama? >> no, i think, look you know in evaluating the president and in evaluating any president, you look at their strong points and you look at the mistakes that are made. i think, you know history is going to be the ultimate judge as to each president and what they've done for the country. >> let me ask you this. are you done with politics in government secretary panetta? is there any job that might bring you back to washington? maybe hillary clinton's running

mate in 2016? >> you know i've -- i've mentioned this before. i've got -- i'm back on a walnut ranch that my father helped plant and, you know i am glad to be back homeworking with a different set of nuts. it's much more fun to be working back on the farm in caramel valley. that's where i'm going to stay. >> a slightly different nut farm out in california. secretary leon panetta, we really appreciate your time this morning. thanks for joining us. good talking to you, sir. >> thanks very much jim joompt and can the war against isis be won without american combat boots on the ground? a retired navy s.e.a.l. now serving in congress and the former house intelligence committee chairman are here next. major: here's our new trainer ensure active heart health. heart: i maximize good stuff like my potassium and phytosterols which may help lower cholesterol. new ensure active heart health supports your heart and body so you stay active and strong. ensure, take life in.

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while many of president obama's fellow democrats see an endless war in the making republicans say the plan does not go far enough. joining me congressman ryan zinke, iraq war veteran and former commander at navy s.e.a.l. team 6 and mike rogers former house intelligence committee chairman. gentleman, thanks for joining me this morning on "state of the union." the situation in copenhagen is obviously unfolding. from what we understand one man responsible for two shooting attacks yesterday. your thoughts? >> well they'll do the forensics to find out if they were tied to any isis recruiter. what you see for isis they're looking for aspirational encouragement everywhere, denmark denmark, united states, canada. you're seeing them take action. any blassphemous talk is

encouragement to bring them over because then it's more noble, if you will in the eyes of those folks. >> and i want to go back to that interview that we just had with leon panetta, con man zinke. you just got to congress. you're a retired navy s.e.a.l. one of the things that leon panetta said is the greatest national security threat to the united states is not isis not al qaeda, it's washington. what do you think so far? >> three days in a lot of what he says is truthful. we're too bureaucratic polarized and i think the authorization is probably you know a good look at that. what does the authorization mean? we're going to have hearings in congress. i think the president was right to ask congress but at the end of the day, what does it mean? i think americans want the truth. when you embed troops in air operations alone is not going to degrade or destroy isis. you're not going to sprinkle and it's not going to be over the

rise. they're going to be up front. that means you have to make sure you have the right equipment, right training right rules of engagement to win decisively on the field of battle. you can't embed one or two folks and selected units, that package will require medivac. what if our guys get injured? what if we need a quick reaction force? >> right. >> the footprint will be larger than i think the administration can see. >> congressman, you have an op ed in the washington times. it says i look at president obama's proposal and all i see is an outline of what our troops cannot do. congress should not be asked to put restrictions on the military military. when we go to war, we go to war to win. i want to take this to chairman rogers here. mike the president said last week that we don't want an endless war. and he tried to bake that into this authorization for use of military force. does he have a point?

>> well, first of all, this is a monumental failure of leadership. if you would have approached congress before met with members, i know this sounds crazy, met with members of both parties, you could have had a product that he asked for that would have passed in a week on capitol hill. >> why didn't that happen? >> this is i think, the hallmark of this presidency. he refuses to believe he needs to engage members of congress of either party, and on something as serious as this. i mean if you recall i was calling last year for an aumf back in august and september because if you're going to ask these men and women to go and serve in this pretty tough neighborhood have you to give them all the full faith and confidence of the united states and american people. he didn't do it then. he keeps putting it off. he keeps talking about the things he won't do. he did that last year. he's drawing it into this year.

this to me was the most frustrating. you see isis nodes around the middle east. what's so frustrating is they're getting bigger. they're expanding their operations. they're looking for new safe havens. in the meantime we're going to have hearings on something he should have been working on in the last six months. >> one things democrats say is isis is laying a trap. what they do want is they want the united states and its coalition to invest a huge ground force presence in iraq and potentially in syria and get caught in another quagmire that lasts another ten years. what about that? >> this is the president's straw man argument. if you're not what i'm for, you're for 100,000 troops marching on to raqqa in syria. no one is calling for that. we got into a semantic argument and the congressman touched on that a moment ago, we believe if you embed some soldiers there

is a footprint there, we got into a semantic political argument what is a boot on the ground 1, 50 200. ridiculous argument. if you want to leverage up the ability for our friends and allies you need special forces capabilities down range. >> that is nebulous in this aumf. we don't know what these ground forces might be doing down the road. we have a lightfoot print now. all the president is trying to ban in this aumf is enduring combat operations. leaves a lot of room in the middle. a lot of wiggle room. congressman, how are your fellow republicans going to respond to this? are they going to give him the authorization he needs? >> he has the authorization now. he will have a robust capability. you can't fight war in a half punch fashion. it will take ground troops. we're going to ask for a plan. i think our troops deserve that. the military when we -- this is from a perspective of not only a commander, but a father.

my daughter is a former navy diver, i've been to a lot of funerals. i know the consequences of war, but when you go to war, did you to war to win decisively. that means you make sure that our troops have what they need to win the battlefield. >> is the president going to war to win right now? >> no. in my estimation not. you can't fight from a distance. it will take coalition. look this is a battle as much between or within islam as it is east and west. and what we have to do is separate the terrorist organizations within islam from mainstream. and it will take resolve. it will take commitment. it will take coalition. and i do agree with king abdullah of jordan that it is an islamic battle to fight, but we need to provide logistics, make sure the intelligence is correct. if they use our air, which is critical we have to make sure our guys on the ground are directing it in the right places. that meanings you need to embed special forces and other groups. when you do that you've got to

protect them on the field of battle. we've seen what happens when they capture. i don't think we ever want to have one of our soldiers sailors, airmen marine in the same position as the jordanian pilot. >> thank you very much for being with us this morning. when we come back all the president's media. what's behind the white house's end run around the traditional press? he trains. he's psyched. ready for the knockout? you don't know "aarp." he's staying in shape by

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the deadline for signing up -- the deadline for signing up for health insurance is february -- febru -- that's not right. thanks obama. >> now we've seen everything right? the presidential selfie stick in that parody video promoting the government's health care site. the news and entertainment website scored an interview with the president. for the most part presidents often turn to the traditional news conference to get their messages out. >> an issue of war and peace. >> we shall fight the battle against aggression in vietnam. >> four out of five central american countries now have democratic governments. >> i did not have sexual

relations with that woman. >> congress will pass some bills i cannot sign. i'm pretty sure i'll take some actions that some in congress will not like. >> but they've also used nontraditional media to connect with the public. >> sock it to me? >> number 7, make sure the white house library has lots of books with big print and pictures. >> seriously? what's it like for this to be the last time you ever talk to a president? >> all right. joining me now, matthew eglasias senior editor at vox news v-o-x. ben labolt the press secretary for the 2012 campaign and john stanton at buzz feed news. john i'm going to put you on the spot right away. how does that work you wink and stick your tongue out?

>> the winkie emoji, i had no idea. >> just making faces in the mirror. >> what was that all about? >> you know, i think -- i don't know a whole lot about how they come up with these crazy ideas for these videos. >> you work there, right? >> yeah. yeah. and -- but, you know, i think it's hilarious, right. it was funny. showed a human side of the president. people really liked it. i thought it was funny. >> and, matthew, over at vox, you guys had this interview with the president and it was also sort of in a nontraditional format in that you took the interview, you guys went back, you edited it together you added some new media flair to the presentation. why did you take that approach in your interview? >> well we wanted to try to do something a little bit different. i think people have seen interviews with the president before. it's a great -- you know it's an honor. it's a big deal if you're a

journalist doing one. to the audience it may get a little bit stale. we wanted to produce something that looked different and that meant taking a slightly different approach in terms of the questions that we ask so our team had the time to go and do the animations. >> ben, let me ask you this. you know the question i ask which is -- you've heard this beef before from people like me before in the white house press corps. it feels like the white house is using nontraditional outlets and vox is a website that does a lot of great journalism as well but it is sort of going around the folks in the briefing room around the networks around the newspapers to get the message out. why is that? why is the white house doing this? >> well the ultimate goal is to reach the american people. i'm not sure that there's one bully pulpit anymore when the president walks out in the briefing room that no longer guarantees he'll reach his

target. this week february 15th there was a deadline for the health care enrollment. he wants to get young people health care coverage. the fact is 71% of people under the age of 30 get their news online as the primary source of information now. he had to go to nontraditional sources to reach them. >> is he trying to get away from not answering the hard questions? is that what he's up to? >> just a few months ago he was criticized for doing "60 minutes" too often. if you watch these interviews sure there were some things that were different and some things that were a little bit fun. it was a broad discussion of politics domestic policy and foreign policy. we've just gotten past the time when it was three networks or so that had a monopoly on a national audience. the president and the white house worked to identify the audience they were trying to reach and go to the venue where they are. >> john your editor ben smith asked some hard questions in that interview with the president but then you know a day later it comes out and we're

seeing some youtube video of when the president sat down with youtube. but, you know the next day you come out with this video with the president with the selfie stick and so forth. does that kind of take away from the seriousness of you know the interview that you had with the president earlier this week? >> no, i don't think so. i think, look a, there are sort of two parts of the company that did it. it's not like ben was doing selfies taking pictures with the president. which would be hilarious. >> it's a bit like saying abc news should be worried about marvel doing something with the president, right? no, i don't think that's a problem. i think this is an issue that we in the media definitely talk a whole lot about and presidents talk a whole lot about. i don't think they have a problem with chewing gum and walking at the same time. they can see the difference between the two things and accept them for what they are. >> matthew, i mean one thing that you heard obviously in the criticism that came after your interview with the president was

that it was -- it was sort of a way to -- you were trying to explain his answers with the graphics and so forth in almost a supporting role is what some conservative commentators said after that interview. what is your response to that? >> it's not a surprise that conservatives don't love an interview with the president. they don't like the president, they don't agree with what he's saying. it was a good way to illustrate some of his points. when people are able to speak freely they speak imprecisely. i asked him a question about foreign aid. he said something like it's 1 to 2% of the budget. we were able to show exactly what it is. it was 1.6%. >> there was part of the interview where he sort of misspoke and described the terror attack at the paris deli as being random when obviously it wasn't random. there were anti-semitic motivations there. we tried to ask the white house press secretary about that josh earnest. he fumbled the answer to this as well. in these interviews all presidential interviews make

news no matter what the questions are. sometimes letting the president speak he'll make news. >> that's true. that was an interesting moment. i don't think the president meant to deny there was an anti-semitic motivation there. he's said it before. what he said in the interview was random. members of his staff i think sort of fumbled follow-up questions. it became a story for a day or two. i don't think from my point of view that was not like the most interesting thing that happened in that interview, but it goes to show whenever you get the president on camera something can happen. >> ben, i have to ask you this. what makes you cringe the most the president sitting down with a buzz feed or a vox or "60 minutes" or cnn? which is the one that has you bracing for impact the most? >> i think matthew hit on a good point. when you prepare for a sunday show interview, when you prepare the president for that he spends hours in preparation thinking through everything he's said in the past and detail questions that could come in. sometimes it's the interviews in a relaxed setting that are the

most dangerous. it's a free flowing conversation. it's harder to predict the questions. those are the sorts of times when it's easiest for the president or any elected official to go off s all in here but i'll try. >> you need a selfie strick. >> thanks for your time. we appreciate it. up next real news fake news and our own moment of zen to ponder. [rob] so we've had a tempur-pedic for awhile, but now that we have the adjustable base, it's even better. [alex] when i put my feet up on this bed my stress just goes away. [evie] i go up...heeeeyyy... [donna]our tempur-pedic is the best thing in our house, 'cept for my husband. [lauren] wait,wait,where are you going? [announcer] visit your local retailer

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