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the outcry of police tactics, for now, it's just an alternative, but in the future it just might save a life. sara sidner cnn, san diego. >> thanks sara. i'll be back here tomorrow night. ac 360 starts right now. >> good evening, thanks for joining us. a freight train carrying crude oil has gone off the tracks and it's burning out of control right now in west virginia. the governor declared a state of emergency. you see the fireball right there. we're working to get as much information as we can on this breaking story. we're going to bring you the latest details shortly. also tonight, a dangerous night on the road in places where snow rarely falls, like it's falling tonight. and more snow in new england. we'll have the latest on all of it. we begin with another country joining the battle against isis. drounl drawn into it by yet another isis horror show. egypt bombing isis targets in libya for a second time late
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today, after the kidnapping, beheading of 21 egyptian christians there. this is from one of those isis propaganda videos, the victims being led onto the beach, to their deaths. barbara starr joins us now from the pentagon with the latest. what kind of targets were they actually going after? >> good evening, anderson. the egyptian government is saying it went after a number of isis targets, training camps, other isis facilities in and around the eastern libya city of durna. this is a well-known stronghold of militants in libya. now they say they are isis. they are clearly in adherence to isis. at this point, we don't know if they're central members of the isis organization. egypt denied any claims that there were civilian casualties, saying the strikes were surgical and precise against very specific targets that they went after earlier today. anderson? >> i want to be clear, that's coming from the egyptian government, not u.s. officials,
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or outside -- >> yeah, that's right. i mean, i think it's exactly what you would expect the egyptians to say at this point. they have no evidence of civilian casualties, and they took great care to be surgical, you know, this is a case where we will see if there are any credible claims that emerge in the coming hours and days. >> right. we don't have people on the ground obviously there due to security concerns. is there any indication, barbara, that these strikes are part of a wider campaign against isis targets in libya. >> well perhaps so. the egyptian government making it very clear how very angry it is at this mass murder of 21 christian egyptian men who went into libya looking for work very low-wage work. the egyptian government, moving very quickly to begin these air strikes. the question is going to be, as our own reporter has pointed out, how long can the egyptian military keep this up.
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they have some limed stock of bombs and the kinds of munitions they will need to drop to get after these targets and destroy them. is question is going to be are they going to need resupply and is that resupply going to come from the united states? >> it's also to try to understand how they have isis central, operating in iraq, operating in syria. i understand the u.s. is looking into who carried out these latest killings. >> well, that's exactly right. you know, as far as this take goes, they are looking very closely frame by frame especially at a man in the center of the tape. he's wearing camouflage. not the type of black loose-fitting gear that you see others in the tape wearing. so they're looking to see who he might be, why he speaks such good english. but also, is this a sign that isis fundamentally is expanding to libya, and there are signs of them or their adherence in places like yemen, afghanistan, and pakistan. >> barbara starr, appreciate the update.
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we're obviously not showing the video. but you look at the still image of those people lined up on the beach, you watched a man burned alive earlier and listen to a sunni cleric and shia condemning isis at morning prayers. and ask yourself what the terror group hopes to achieve without a single ally elsewhere in the world. joining us "new york times" david kirkpatrick, and peter bergen, who has just written an item about the kind of war that isis hopes to start. so, david, these killings, what's the reaction been like on the ground in egypt? >> well, it's very, very morose. a cloud is hanging over the whole country. i feel like anywhere in the country you walk into a room you see people looking a little bit hang-dog today. it's such a shocking thing, to see not only the loss of life but killing in this way, this kind of gruesome theatrical
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brutality really takes a toll on people. >> peter, it's hard to understand, i think, for a lot of people what isis is hoping to achieve with these kind of killings. i mean, if you're trying to look at it rationally, you might think they would try to get support across the middle east, rather than what it seems like they're doing, which is alienating themselves and growing a list of enemies. >> yeah. it's not an effective strategy to keep adding to your list of enemies. now isis has added the egyptians, previously the jordanians, the united states, and a very large coalition, pretty much every ethnic and religious group in syria and iraq. so you would think, what's the point here. but the way they think about the world, they believe we're living in the end times, a sort of apocalyptic view, that the final battle for the soul of islam is being played out. and in fact, their english language magazine is called dabiq, which is a town in syria
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that the prophet muhammad said the final battle between islam and the crusaders would take place. and, you know, isis has that town. in their view, that final battle is coming, too. then it really -- they're not behaving in a way a rational group would. they're behaving in a way that an apocalyptic death cult would. i think that's a good way of describing them. >> an apocalyptic death cult. so if they're thinking about the world in those terms, peter, the people that they are actually trying to reach out to, i mean, this kind of brutality, this kind of horror in terms of gaining new recruits, that's what it's all about. it's not about attracting a mass audience. >> i guess not. you know, you would have thought it would repel a lot of people. but even in the united states, we've seen teenagers in colorado and teenagers in chicago trying to join the islamic state. luckily they were headed off at the airport before they could do that. but the point is that, you know, in some people's mind, the islamic state is creating the
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perfect caliphate, despite all this terrible violence. that accounts for the fact that they're the most successful terrorist group in terms of recruitment in the modern era. >> david, in terms of libya itself, i think a lot of people kind of haven't maybe paid that much attention to it, since the benghazi attacks, certainly even since gadhafi was overthrown. how chaotic has it become? >> the funny thing is, there's still money there. the libyan central bank has $1 -- $100 billion in cash reserves, and it's continued to pump out money to civil service, to teachers to doctors, to municipal workers, so the country continues to grind on in a way, even though there's been a total collapse of authority. each little city is its own city/state now. and each town is controlled by its own militia. what we have are two coalitions of militia. that's all it is.
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there is no central authority in either one, really, fighting against each other for control of the country, ultimately for that bank. >> peter, is there an understanding how -- or among people you talk to, how much the isis affiliates in libya are connected with core isis in iraq, in syria? >> well, i think the beheadings of these egyptian cops points to a rather tight relationship. because in this english language magazine, we saw pictures of these prisoners. then we saw this video from isis central. and to me, that indicates very much they're in touch with the folks in libya. of course, go back to the first iraq war, anderson, you know, the united states found that the largest number of foreign fighters that went into iraq by overwhelming numbers was from eastern libya, the very place where this is all playing out. so that link between eastern libya and iraq and al qaeda in iraq has been there for almost a decade. >> david, is that what you're hearing as well, talking to people in egypt or elsewhere about the connection?
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>> yeah, especially in eastern libya. as i understand it, you know, there are now three different groups around libya who have pledged loyalty to the islamic state. the group in durna, i think, is largely a group of returnees who have been fighting with the islamic state in syria. so i'm not sure how deep the connection goes in the western part of the country where the people were executed. >> david kirkpatrick, i appreciate you joining us, and peter bergen as well, thank you. coming up next, another act of terror, another city in europe, another possible connection to isis being investigated. we'll go to copenhagen where police killed a gunman at a deadly rampage at a free speech meeting and outside a synagogue. also on breaking news we'll talk to people on the scene of the tanker train explosion, which not only shot flames high
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40,000 people got together this evening to say they're not afraid. the gathering in copenhagen, denmark, outside the first stop of a killing rampage where a film maker was killed and three officers injured. hours later, the would-be terrorist went to a synagog and shot and killed a guard there. he was later gunned down by police. people have been gathering all day and evening, playing flowers in both locations. the president offered condolences and expressed solidarity with the danish people. as in paris, the killer was motivated by radical islam and perhaps by isis in particular targeting people who would speak out against jewish people. you'll hear from one of the intended targets. this time a swedish cartoonist who is on al qaeda's hit list who said for him, there's no way out. the terrible episode unfolding.
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>> saturday, just after 3:30 in the afternoon, a free speech forum interrupted by this. >> yes, it is freedom of speech. but -- and the turning point is but. why do we still say but when we -- [ gunfire ] >> cnn cannot authenticate the recording obtained by the bbc. but on it, more than 20 shots occurred. 55-year-old film maker finn norgard is killed. three officers injured. the assumed target, cartoonist lars vilks, on al qaeda's most wanted list for his satirical drawings of the prophet muhammad. >> bang, bang, bang, and very quickly we could understand that something was going on. the body guards rushed onto the scene and took me and threw me into a storage room together with a chairman. and we were put under a table there. and we were guarded by policemen with drawn guns.
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>> surveillance cameras show the suspect fleeing the scene, a manhunt is launched. police say they're familiar with the suspect. a little over nine hours later, on a sunday morning, another attack. shots fired outside a synagogue. a woman inside celebrating her daughter's bar mitzvah, when the guests were taken to a safe room. >> we were 40 -- third, 40 people a lot of them children 15 children a lot of them without their parents there. classmates of my daughter. and a lot of them were crying, and panicking. >> out on the sidewalk, two police officers are wounded. 37-year-old volunteer guard and basketball fan, dan, is shot in the head and killed. the shooter evades police again. >> we stand here in front of the jewish synagogue in copenhagen. we are devastated today. a man has lost his life in his
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service of that synagogue. and we are devastated. our thoughts go to his family. we are with them today. but our thoughts go to the whole of the jewish community today. >> police finally manage to corner the suspect just before 5:00 a.m. outside this apartment complex. police say he opens fire. they fire back, killing him. >> denmark was hit by terrorism. two innocent people have lost their lives. and five police officers are injured. the pictures and accounts of these events will not easily be forgotten in denmark. >> nor should they be. this brings us up to the minute. for more on what the investigation is revealing about the killings, as well as the killer's possible allegiances, we're joined by pamela brown in denmark. what's the latest with the
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investigation? >> reporter: anderson, we know from authorities that the suspect had been on danish authority's radar for a while because of his gang ties. it's becoming increasingly clear that he also had extremist ties. just before the shooting here last weekend he apparently posted his allegiance, pledged his allegiance to isis on his facebook page. also, we spoke to a former classmate of his, a recent classmate who said that he espoused anti-west views in class. he had been released from jail a couple of weeks ago for a violent crime he had committed. there are indications that he had been radicalized in jail, similar to the paris suspects. there are a lot of parallels drawn between what we've seen here and the paris attacks. speaking to people on the ground here anderson there's a growing concern of radicalization in jail and of violent criminals, gang members spilling over and becoming jihadists as well.
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one official here said it's becoming a phenomenon here. >> obviously, it could have been so much worse. we heard earlier from the woman you spoke to inside the report who was inside the synagog for the bar mitzvah of her daughter. he didn't actually get into the synagogue, is that correct? i mean, during the shooting outside, did he then run off? >> that's our understanding. in fact, she got very emotional during our interview, anderson, and started crying because she basically said, if it weren't for dan, the victim here who was killed, and perhaps others would have been injured or killed inside. what we have found out is that he shot him point-blank right outside of the synagogue and ran away after that. then as we know there was a shoot-out. but she said they were having a celebration, a bar mitzvah for her daughter inside that synagog. they were dancing, having a great time. and all of a sudden someone ran
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in and said go down to the safe room. it was a horrifying two hours. i asked her if after this experience she wanted to leave denmark. she said, no, i'm danish and i'm proud to be danish. >> thank you. digging deeper now with the swedish defense university and a former islamic extremist who now battles extremism. >> magnus do you think authorities should have been more prepared for an attack at this event. the apparent target of the first shooting, who i'll talk to in a few minutes, is on the al qaeda hit list just like "charlie hebdo." >> the fact that they had most of the security inside the venue, suggests that they could have perhaps had a perimeter security ring around the event. but they've had this event behind me here several times before, and nothing had happened. so i think that they rested all their laurels a little bit too much. but they responded with fire. and that was critical, to
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prevent another "charlie hebdo" like in paris. >> in terms of what we now know about the would-be terrorist in this, what do you make of him? what stands out to you? you and i have talked about this, the threats of young -- posed by young people whether directly connected to a terrorist cell or not almost doesn't matter at this point. >> no, anderson, it doesn't. one thing we've learned of the attacker is it seems like he served some time in prison, and he must have interacted with some people that radicalized him in prison. it's a huge, gaping, big black hole across europe. we have a disproportionate number of born and raised muslim citizens who are in prisons and many of our prisons are yet to come to grips with the sheer extent of radicalization in prisons. >> magnus, there were warnings about the shooter before, red flagged to security services last year. do you have a sense of how much he was being tracked or how much
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he was on their radar? >> he wasn't on the radar. -- he was on the radar, but i think they thought he was more of a gang member than anything else. >> do you find a lot of crossover, especially in denmark, between gangs and extremists? >> yeah, it's one of the distinguishing features in denmark. you have criminal gang members who have an interface with extremist elements. he had an m-95, which is an automatic rifle used by the military. very difficult to get ahold of in the black market. there was an arms cache stolen, 44 rifles stolen in 2009. it may be one of those. but he at least had access to weaponry which made him a very lethal terrorist. >> and magnus, the police are not as heavily armed, or at least the police on the scene there were not, is that correct? >> well, the police were armed.
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you had a layer here behind me. armed police officers who were screening the people coming into the building. you had the danish security service who were protecting lars wilks. the security service protecting also lars wilks. they had a heavy armed presence inside. but nothing really on the outside. not enough. when he came to the jewish synagogue, he pretended to be drunk. he approached the guard and two police officers who were outside. and he sort of pretended to be drunk and he walked up and shot the guard in the head point-blank. and injured two of the guards. two of the police officers in the arm and the leg. then he disappeared. >> i imagine the uptick in the anti-semitic violence we're seeing what do you think is behind it? it's not just the shooting in copenhagen or in paris, it seems like more and more every other
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day, there's some kind of incident. >> yes, it's hugely unfortunate. i think europe is reaching a stage where we're reaching a crisis point with our fellow jewish citizens. unfortunately, jihadists, not only are they going for soft targets, but within the soft targets, they are contacting those who symbolize the clash of civilization rhetoric that they subscribe to. cartoonists are, of course, one. but in both instances jews were also targeted. that's because both can be seen respectively -- come to symbolize the millennial clash of civilizations rhetoric that the jihadists subscribe to. >> i know you know some people in the synagog at the time of the shooting. i'm just wondering what kind of impact has this had in denmark? >> it's had a massive impact in the sense of outpouring of sympathy, sadness, huge amount of love for the jewish
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community. you see the flowers outside. it's just like behind, and continuously coming people long after midnight, just visiting, paying their respects. there is a debate about how much security the synagogue should have. and of course, there is the prime minister, she was visibly moved when she visited the synagogue. they're taking this very seriously. and they want this to -- they want to be very strong in supporting and making a safe environment for the jewish community. >> i appreciate you both being with us. thank you. >> thank you. you heard a little bit from lars wilks, the man believed to be the target of the initial attack in denmark. we'll talk to him now about what his life is like on the al qaeda hit list. he's on the run, in hiding tonight. we'll talk to him ahead.
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we spoke a moment ago about how the killer and others have been targeting people in the al qaeda hit list. in a moment, you'll hear from
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lars vilks, who is on it himself and could have been killed on saturday. but first, randi kaye on the list itself. >> reporter: the poster reads wanted dead or alive for crimes against islam, published by al qaeda. those pictured are primarily people who have criticized or satirized the muslim faith. punishable by death. salman rushdie. 1988 he publishes, the sat antic verses, a book highly critical of islam. protests erupt. bookstores in the u.s. and britain and a newspaper are bombed. ayatollah khomeini orders muslims to kill rushdie. >> i think in many cases, some people may think because nobody's killed me, nobody's going to kill me. actually, that's just not true. i wish it were. >> reporter: 2004, a dutch filmmaker produces "submission," a movie which criticized the treatment of women in islam. a few months after the film's
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release, he was shot to death and stabbed and nearly decapitated in amsterdam. his killer, a 26-year-old dutch islamist, serving life in prison. theo van gogh's partner in that controversial film is also on the hit list. plus, curt westerguard, 2005, the danish cartoonist draws an image of the prophet muhammad with a bomb in his turban. muslims across the world are outraged. danish embassies in the middle east are set ablaze. westerguard receives numerous death threats. eventually a man wielding an ax breaks into his home but he survives the attack. stefan charbonnier, 2005 his magazine "charlie hebdo" publishes a cartoon of the prophet muhammad and names him editor in chief for the next
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issue. their offices are firebombed, but no one is hurt. >> translator: one has the impression everyone is driven by fear. that's what the small handful of fundamentalists that doesn't represent anyone wants to do good afternoon through fear. >> reporter: tragically last month he and 11 others are killed inside the french satirical magazine's office. more than 50 shots are fired. also on al qaeda's most wanted list, lars vilks. 2007, the swedish artist sketches a series of drawings depicting the prophet muhammad as a dog. protests erupt. vilks receives death threats and an al qaeda affiliate offers up to $150,000 for his assassination. in 2009, a plot to kill vilks is stopped by law enforcement. among the plotters, three americans, one of them a woman named colleen morose, who is dubbed jihad jane. in the attack this weekend on
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the free speech forum in copenhagen, denmark, vilks narrowly escaped death again, escaping unharmed when a gunman opened fire. randi kaye, cnn, new york. >> and he's now said to be in hiding. by phone now joining us mr. vilks himself on the shooting and what it's like to live the rest of his life as a target. mr. vilks, i know you're in hiding right now. how concerned are you for your safety, the safety of those around you? >> well, i've had bodyguards for a long time, so i trust that they are professionals. i feel very safe. >> so you don't worry about your personal safety? >> no. no i think it's very clear. they're good. i've been around with these guys for a long time, so they're handling the situation carefully. >> what went through your mind when you first heard the gunfire at the forum that you were speaking at in copenhagen?
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did you immediately think -- did you immediately know what was happening? >> no. no. it's kind of a surrealistic thing. you know, we heard a bang, bang, bang bang, bang. and what's going on here. is someone having a fire work or -- but i mean there was there was my thinking the bodyguards they reacted very quickly. suddenly i was drawn off the seminar table there. and they took me out into a storage room. and i was put on a table there and i was surrounded by body guards withdrawn guns. and then joined by a police officer who was wounded. but still in fighting spirit. and it went very quickly then. >> in terms of firepower, you said that the gunman was actually better equipped than
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the police. i believe he had an automatic weapon. do you believe the police should have had stronger weapons? would that have made a difference? >> yeah. yes, it would. see, the point is that when you fire -- they were firing through the glass. because there was a glass entrance. and his gun was more efficient on the glass. and the police had handguns. these are very -- it's very difficult to actually do something from a distance, at the same time shoot through glass. >> i know you have been on an al qaeda hit list, the same list the editor of "charlie hebdo" was on, and certainly others, and i'm not going to press you for details, but do you feel -- like you said, you've been under protection for a long time, since 2010. do you think the threat to you, to other free speech advocates, has changed significantly over the course of the last several years?
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>> yes. i mean, when i got these bodyguards, it was a new division that they didn't have before. so there's much more need for security today. in the beginning of this year it has reached a really high point. and i've just got to know that i would not be able to return to my home. so they would put me away somewhere else. >> for you, there is no going back. purely on a security level, this is the reality for you. >> once you get on the islamists' list, and you're pointed out, you cannot -- you can't withdraw. because there is no forgiveness. you are pointed out and you are bound to die in these people's eyes. and there's no way out. >> mr. vilks, i appreciate you taking the time to speak to us. and i wish you well. thank you. >> thank you. bye-bye.
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more information now on the breaking news from the top of the broadcast. a train pulling 110 cars of crude oil derailed in southern west virginia. you see the result, a massive fireball there. at least one home catching on fire. people have been evacuated. a state of emergency now in effect. it's happening in west virginia. a reporter from our affiliate joins us now by phone. the video from the crash, the fireball it's just massive. what's the scene like now? >> reporter: well, actually, we just got done talking to a state trooper here a little bit ago. he tells us that the fire is finally starting to die down a little bit. unfortunately, though, the heat, as you can imagine, is still really intense out there. they cannot get crews in there to really investigate this. they're hoping to do that come tomorrow, when hopefully the fire will die down more. but i can tell you, just
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driving in here, a couple miles from the scene you can see the black cloud in the sky. when that eruption happened, we were there for one of those explosions. we were talking to some people across the river when one of the explosions happened. the heat was just so intense. and it just shot right up into the sky. it's obviously a major, major crisis that they're working with here. >> so there have been more than one explosion? >> reporter: yeah. from the people we were talking to, actually, they had just told us that they witnessed another explosion a few minutes before we got on scene. we were actually talking to someone about that, about what he had witnessed when the explosion that we were on scene for happened. at that point the fire crews came over and told us that we had to leave. we had to drive a couple miles down the road. right now we're at a high school where a shelter has been set up for people who have been evacuated here. >> have there been any reports of injuries or fatalities? and also, how is the weather impacting the response to this?
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>> reporter: obviously the weather is slowing things down. right now it's about 20 degrees. it's been snowing all day. there's snow on the ground. that will definitely have an impact. but you mentioned injuries, we heard that one person is being checked out, possibly for some inhalation problems. but no other real serious injuries, and no fatalities. so as bad as this looks, and as bad as this is for the water system right now, where water treatment plants are shut down, if that continues, about 2,000 customers in the area will lose water service tonight. that could obviously have a major impact. but with no real serious injuries or fatalities to report, a lot better than what it could have been here, anderson. >> no doubt about that. matt heckle, thank you very much. anderson, the man accused of shooting to death three students in north carolina last week was indicted today on first-degree murder charges. police say the incident may have been tied to a parking dispute. but they're also looking at the
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possibility it is a hate crime. all three victims were muslim. disgraced cyclist lance armstrong must pay $10 million to a sports promotion company for bonuses it paid for three of his tour de france championships. an arbitration panel said armstrong was responsible for an unparalleled pageant of perjury, fraud, and conspiracy due to his use of performance-enhancing drugs. fireworks and more celebrations in north korea today to mark what would have been the 73rd birthday of the dear leader kim jong-il. he died three years ago. the current leader, his son, kim jong-un, took part in the remembrances. analysts say all of this is meant to give the perception his government is strong with no cracks. >> thank you very much. quick programming note. coming up next on cnn at the top of the hour, stay tuned as i host the cnn quiz show in honor of president's day. three teams of cnn anchors will put their presidential trivia knowledge to the test. you can play along at home. and they'll raise money for
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jurors in texas today heard the taped confession of the man accused of murdering chris kyle the former navy seal subject of
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the blockbuster movie "american sniper." the defense said he was suffering psychosis and didn't know right from wrong at the time. his confession right after the killing contradicts that at least during parts of the 90-minute tape that was played in court today. >> reporter: in the videotaped confession from two years ago, eddie ray routh looks far different than he does today. he's dressed in the same clothing that he wore to the gun range when he shot and killed chris kyle and chad littlefield. one of the investigators said he even noticed bloodstains on routh's boots. this was recorded just after routh surrendered to police after a car chase and a few hours after the killings. routh starts with a rambling and incoherent answer when he's asked what happened. he says, i keep talking to chris. there's a few dozen chrises in my world. every time i talk to another man named chris, or get sent to another man named chris, it was like talking to the wolf, you know? the ones in the sky are the ones that fly, you know what i mean, the pigs. routh becomes obsessed with talk
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of his soul. you can't just keep letting people eat your soul up for free. it's not what it's about. it's about having a soul in you for yourself. and there are tons of people that are eating on my soul right now. the detective asks, who did you shoot first? and routh says, the one i could clearly identify. he's talking about chris kyle here. i knew if i did not take out his soul, he was coming to take mine next. >> he was in the grips of a psychosis. a psychosis so severe at that point in time that he did not know what he was doing was wrong. >> the interrogation video lasts nearly 90 minutes. routh complains about the handcuffs being uncomfortable. he's left alone and tries to put on a pair of glasses. he asked to speak with his mother and asks for a cigarette. and when he doesn't get one, pops off, doesn't anyone spoke -- smoke anymore? the investigator asked him, after you killed them what did
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you do next? i fled. i didn't know what else to do. you my adrenaline was so high. i didn't know what was right and what was wrong. well i know what was right now. the investigator would come back to this nearly a half dozen times leaving routh alone and coming back to ask him repeatedly if he knew that killing kyle and littlefield was wrong. after first answering he didn't know, each time after that, routh says he knew it was wrong. the detective then asks routh what he would like to tell the victims' families. i would tell them i'm sorry for what i've done. prosecutors say the tape shows routh knew what he was doing. >> mental illnesses, even the ones that this defendant may or may not have don't deprive people of the ability to be good citizens to know right from wrong. >> ed joins us now. we learned investigators didn't do a blood test on the shooter. is that significant? >> i think it might be
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interesting. at least interesting to see exactly what kind of role this detail plays when the jury begins its deliberations. prosecutors have been making a big deal over eddie ray routh's recreational drug abuse and alcohol use, and they brought it up several times, that he had smoked marijuana earlier in the day before the killings. now it turns out that there is no blood test. so no way of really telling this jury what amounts of marijuana were in his system, what amounts if any of alcohol, any of that kind of bloodwork that could have bolstered their case on this. so it will be interesting to see exactly what kind of role, what kind of significant role that might play when the jury begins its deliberations. >> he looks a lot different in court than the video. >> strikingly different, yes. absolutely. up next, mountains of snow and bitter cold in boston. but also in places far beyond a lot of people in the path of the snowstorm. details ahead. so what about that stock? sure thing, right? actually, knowing the kind of risk that you're comfortable with i'd steer clear.
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a shot of snow coming down on the north lawn of the white house. a short time ago, president obama in air force one arriving. new england, boston area, simply cannot catch a break this winter. the snow's gotten 95 inches of -- the area's got 95 inches of snow already. snowiest month ever on record. minus 3 degrees. people in the boston area not alone in their suffering. windchills throughout the northeast are making it feel as cold as 40 below. this time as you saw, it's not just the north. 55 million people under windchill advisories or warnings. more than a dozen states from kansas to oklahoma, to north carolina and washington, d.c., area bracing for, experiencing snow, sleet and ice. will ripley joins me with the latest from boston. what's it like there now, will? >> reporter: well, anderson, i've never seen anything like this. 7 1/2 feet of snow since january 23rd dumped on boston. a lot of it is ending up here at what was an empty lot, until three weeks of snow event after
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snow event, including this big blizzard over the weekend. trucks have been scooping up snow all over the city and bringing it here. it has created a mountain of snow. that's not overstating it, when you look at the fact that the heavy equipment that is scooping this snow is dwarfed by the size of this. it really is overwhelming for the city of boston. all of the snow, they need to remove it. people will be going back to work, many of them after the president's day holiday tomorrow. transportation still isn't running at capacity. it could be another 30 days of snow removal like this before they're able to get everything up and running again. that's only if there isn't another blizzard. all the snow going from that mountain to this large snow melter. it's a machine where they dump in 150 tons of snow every hour. it comes out, you see there, they dump it in the sewer. it's a tremendous capacity. it speeds up the process, but still not enough to handle all of the snow that has been dumped on the city of boston. the flow of trucks is continuing the snow removal effort here in
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boston here tonight. but they still have a long way to go. >> will, thanks very much. that does it for us. the cnn quiz ur anchors' knowledge all things presidential. you at home can play along. three teams will face off against each other. at stake, a cash prize of $40,000 divided between the charities of their choice, and maybe at stake maybe their pride. play along on twitter using the #cnn quiz. le