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schmitty. jeanne moos cnn, new york. >> schmitty was pretty cute, although that other dog, $400 jacket for a dog. what is this world coming to? thank you for joining us. be sure to dvr this show if you want to watch us anytime. "ac360" starts now. an eye opening look at how drones like the ones hunting isis are used here in the united states on the border. breaking news from the front line. major offensive against isis in iraq and evidence that the gunman were communicating by phone and in person and coordinating their acts of terror. chief national correspondent jim sciutto is working both of those angles for us. he joins us now. both of these in isis now. what's going on? >> reporter: to the next of
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urbeale. 9:00 local time. a little sophistication there. a couple points about it. one, there's a lot of talk about isis being on the defensive but in the last week three major offensive actions by them. one in the north. one in the anwar province. while it's well defended by kurdish forces it shows the fighting can get very close to the u.s. personnel. >> and i also want to ask you about the new evidence in the last month terror attacks in paris. texts between amedy coulibaly and the kouachi brothers have been revealed. what do the texts show? there has been coordination between the kouachi brothers and coulibaly who attacked the market. >> reporter: it shows closer coordination. they were accused of being involved in a previous plot together and an enormous amount of communication between their wives. the wife boumeddiene.
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and the years leading up. but in this case you have text messages just in the hours leading up to these attacks. this is lamong, the french newspaper reporting. and based on the information in the cell phones evidence that coulibaly met face to face in the very early morning hours before the attack with one of the kouachi brothers. that would suggest a level of coordination in terms of timing target et cetera that we weren't aware of before. >> and la manz reporting the "charlie hebdo" attacks were on the verge of being cancelled. what's with that? >> reporter: it's one of the bizarre details. one of the kouachi brothers had the stomach flu in the days leading up to the attack. that's just a reminder that terrorists are people and mundane things can get in the way. i covered a kabul attack years ago that once inside called his controller and handler, could he
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sneak out with the civilians rather than set off his vest? he thought he had killed enough people. you see these guys and you think of them as crazy atom tons and they are to some degree but human beings and small things like that could have gotten in the way. of course they went ahead with the attack with horrific results. >> jim sciutto, thank you very much. appreciate that. now the copenhagen terrorists. one of the things investigators want to know. did he draw inspiration from the "charlie hebdo" attacks? they're already learning a lot more about how he became radicalized. someone who knew him, spent time with him as a young gang member as a teenager and stuck out as his violent temper. pamela brown reporting from the danish capital. >> reporter: law enforcement is helping danish authorities scour the social media and telephone records of copenhagen shooter omar allahu sane to see if he
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had communication with americans. cnn learned that sciutto used an automatic rifle, heard here, with an audio obtained by the bbc. powerful weapon often used by danish military. >> this guy fired his weapon in single shots, and that tells me that he's quite calm using control. he's not desperate. >> reporter: just prior to the attack it appears he swore aleer jans toallegiance with abu bakr al-baghdadi. and another weapon before continuing to this jewish synagogue, the two men have been charged. it's believed al hussein was radicalized in this copenhagen prison after convicted after a violent crime and groups like isis do have influence there.
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>> they're interested it in because it's in the media. they may have questions about what do i think about isis what's my opinion on isis? they want to know actually. is it good or are they bad guys? what are they? >> reporter: in a psychological in prison al hussein describes himself as a positive open and social person who is calm of temperament. the report found no suspicion of mental illness. seen here in boxing video from 2013 released from prison two weeks ago according to officials. >> they felt he was more of a gang member than he was a violent extremist and they did not keep track of him after he was released. >> reporter: investigators are looking to see if al hussein may have been inspired by the terrorists in paris who left 17 dead. the fbi's head of counterterrorism michael steinbach, recently told cnn copy cat attacks are a major concern. >> they want to conduct an attack just to make the news
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like the folks they saw on tv. they may be at one level of intent but community events or world events at least through their eyes spurs them on to mobilize and conduct an attack. >> pamela brown joins us now in copenhagen. what have you learned about the time he spent in prison and how that may have affected any radicalization? >> reporter: anderson we've been speaking to people on the ground in copenhagen about that and people said before he went to prison he did express extremist views and anecdotally, people noticed a change in him after when he was released just two weeks ago saying they were scared of him. clearly, something has changed in him. we spoke to the mom at the prison where he was. he wouldn't say whether he worked directly with al hussein but talked about the issue of radicalization. i asked him, is it a concern of his? they are aware of it. it's not widespread a systemic problem but what happens here is that the inmates have nothing
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else to do but watch television. he says for some of them they're learning about isis for the first time while they're in prison and then as we heard him say in the piece, it will come to him, ask him questions about isis. again, he wouldn't be specific about al hussein but i know he posted about isis pledged his aleens toaa allegiance before the shootings. >> a sociologist ayedin sui. 18 years old and in a gang. idin when you heard this man in copenhagen did these attacks, what did you think? >> i think i was shocked like most people here in denmark but i wasn't surprised because if you look at copenhagen the last seven years, then you can see there's a huge amount of young people who were teenagers when
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the gang war started in copenhagen in 2008 who are used to using violence and the amount of weapons have escalated during the last seven years. and he was 15 years old when the gang wars started out. so he's part of a generation living in an inner city area where everyone has experienced someone they know who has been killed. >> what kind of a gang was he in? >> he was part of a gang called brothers from an area called nura nuraparten called ghetto in the danish debate and it is the area in copenhagen mostly influenced by the gang wars. at that point when i met him back in 2011 they were fighting three different gangs. so it is a generation who has become more hardcore than the older generations and more hardcore than anything you've seen before. so if you look at the education that he has gotten in radicalization and in using
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weapons, dehumanizing other people and able to kill them he learned in inner city areas in denmark, not in syria and iraq, he's learned it in the gangs. >> did he seem like an islamist -- when he was a teenager when you spent time with him, did he talk about islamic ideas? what was his -- did he have a religious identification then? >> well if you look at the gang members from the gang that he was a part of and if you asked him, are you a muslim? then they would say yes. but i've talked to dozens of these kinds of young people during the years and if you asked him, are you a good muslim? you see them smiling saying i'm not a good muslim because i'm a gang member. it's not part of islam, being a gang member. but it's a part of the identity being muslim. and if you take these gangs, especially the ones with a lot of young people with immigrant backgrounds from the inner city
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areas, they have a strong belief that society is against them that they are suppressed that they are not being accepted in the danish society and religion is part of that story. we're not being accepted because we are muslims but i think the reason why he became radicalized during the last couple of years is because he was thrown out of the gang he was part of. >> so he was thrown out, i understand because he had an uncontrollable temper. they couldn't control him, is that right? >> yeah exactly. he was known for having a very big temper. so he was part of a sick subculture and that's where he's used how to use weapons. he had the identity of a muslim and his radical believes before he was thrown out but then sought another identity. if he was part of the gang he probably would not have made this attack but then again, he wouldn't have made the attack if he hadn't been taught to use
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violence and dehumanize people in the gang. i don't think if you look at his profile, he wasn't a strong iedologist. he didn't do this because he wanted to turn society around because he wanted to change the danish society. he did this because of an enormous anger towards the danish society and a feeling of being an outsider. >> aydin, thank you. the prosecution rests in the american sniper trial with the man accused of murdering chris kyle said he was caught after a police chase. also later, winter hasn't just been snowy and cold but deadly and expensive. what the city of boston has spent on snow removal alone. it's going to surprise you. ahead.
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the prosecution rested today in the trial of accused chris kyle. the suspect lawyer admits he killed chris kyle at a firing range in 2013 but was suffering from severe psychosis at the time. before the prosecution wrapped up the accused own words in the spotlight. ed lavandera has details. >> reporter: eddie routh is
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breathing heavy and teary eyed. the officer asked if he's okay and routh said i'm so nervous about what's happening in my life today. i don't know what's been happening. i've been so paranoid and schizophrenic all day. they don't allow the broadcast. at times, agitated in the video. squirms around in the backseat and other times, rests his head with his eyes closed. people who know routh said the former marine changed before the killings of chris kyle and chad littlefield. >> i did notice a change several months before all this took place. it's hard to describe exactly but it just seemed like he was a little bit more jumpy. >> i got a woman and a kid moving towards the convoy. >> reporter: the legend of chris kyle was well established by the time he took routh to that
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country side gun range but routh seemed to be more frustrated and annoyed with the two men trying to help him. the small arsenal of weapons brought to the range that day shown to the jury that included these five long rifles and several handguns including one of kyle's rifles named american sniper. but according to defense attorneys, routh in his psychotic state thought he was going to a showdown. he spoke with a writer three months after the shootings. prosecutors played some of that conversation today. routh sounds annoyed at kyle and littlefield and said so we're shooting pistols here hmm? okay. that's pretty much saying duel mother. routh blames chad littlefield. i was like, what are you doing here? it's a spectator sport. you shoot. that's what got me all, you
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know wired up. i took care of business and got in the truck and left. as prosecutors said in their opening statements -- >> i think the term used for folks like him is troubled. i think you heard testimony. he is a troubled young man. >> reporter: they say these are the actions of a cold-blooded killer. >> joining me now. the mother testified. what did she have to say? >> reporter: she was one of the first called. she talked about the incidents the months before the killing. at one point, eddie ray routh held his girlfriend at gunpoint. she begged the v.a. hospital to keep him in. he was admitted for several days. she begged the v.a. hospital in dallas to keep him admitted. he was released a few days before these killings happened and also talked about the cocktail of psychological medications he was taking. at one point, taking nine
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different medications. >> ed lavandera, appreciate the update. cnn legal analyst, mark geragos and danny cevallos. you say he was so paranoid. >> in texas, voluntary intoxication is not a defense to the crime. benefits from the drug evidence. the prosecution benefits from that whereas the defense probably wants to keep it out. at the end of the trial, if the jury gets the instruction of voluntary intoxication which says voluntary intoxication not a defense. they go back in the jury room and say all of that evidence of drug abuse is not evidence of insanity. so we can disregard that. so with each drug they put in front of that jury and i know there was controversial issues today, that will help the prosecution. >> the fact though that right away he was saying i've been paranoid all day, i've been
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schizophrenic. could the prosecution also say, well, the fact he's so self-aware about his mental condition, that indicates that he would have known what was right and what was wrong. >> texas law is very clear. you can suffer from a mental disease or defect. the prosecution essentially conceded that in their opening. the question ultimately is a simple one in texas. because of that mental disease or defect were you unable to distinguish right from wrong? texas courts also answered, what do we mean by wrong? moral wrong? no in texas, was he aware his conduct was illegal? if he was, mental disease or defect aside, insanity will not be a defense that he can use. >> you know, mark we hear a lot about the insanity defense and we had jeffrey toobin on the show saying how difficult it is to prove it or get somebody off a murder charge because of insanity. do you believe this guy is insane and do you believe he knew right from wrong?
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>> well, jeff is right that it is a difficult burden because normally, if somebody is that insane that they're not guilty by reason of insanity you can't restore them to competency long enough to put them in trial. here you take a look at and i think one of the most remarkable things about this is take a look at him the day he was arrested and then take a look at him in the courtroom today. >> he's unrecognizable. >> virtually two different people. >> i have to keep looking at it and try to figure out how different, and i suppose that's probably a product of the cocktails of pharmaceuticals that he's either been on or was on before. and that mother's testimony today is highly significant because if what danny said the prosecution keeps focusing on the drugs and the voluntary intoxication the fact remains she was practically begging the v.a. to keep him in. that happens to often, i can't tell you how often tragedy
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strikes within a week or a couple days of some loved one, i've got cases in the office right now where some loved one is begging somebody to keep him under a psychiatric hold. you can't release him. he's a danger. he's a danger. and unfortunately, it's just emblematic of the complete breakdown of the mental health system in america. >> mark he ran away. he got in chris kyle's pickup truck and drove off, tried to escape. that would be some sort of indication he knew what he had done was wrong or at least illegal, that he was going to get in some form of trouble for it. and and, you know, isn't that damning? and he at one point said to police he didn't know right from wrong and then later said multiple times he knew what he did was wrong. >> right. and that's what the prosecution is going to focus on. the defense is going to come back and the defense is going to argue and say, look. he fled because he thought he was in danger.
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he didn't know what was going on. he couldn't figure out what was going on around him. that's why he fled. you know it wasn't because he had a consciousness of guilt. it was the opposite. he had a consciousness something was going on in his own brain. look, there is no real rational reason for him to do what he did other than he had a mental disease or defect. so then it's just a matter of is this jury going to say, okay we want to help him or is the jury going to say, no we're done with this guy and we're going to find him guilty and that's the end of that. >> well prosecution rests. we'll see what happens. danny cevallos and mark geragos. a fight in the ukraine. nick payton walsh on the ground. and whether vladimir could put an end to it all. and high-tech drones to capture illegal immigrants. might sound like a good idea but
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well the u.n. security council tad approved a resolution calling on all parties to abide by the cease fire in ukraine, a truce of all prorussian separatists that begin on paper. defense ministry said five service members killed in the last 24 hours. cease fire violated more than five times. fighting on the ground continues. u.n. calls numerous civilian casualties in one city fighting for position. shelling hit a pipeline. taken over 80% of the area. a short time ago, i spoke to the ambassador of ukraine. asked whether vladimir putin has any control of what's happening. >> vladimir putin could stop this violence with one phone call. these are forces that are taking instructions and direction from the kremlin and more importantly, as we've noted, we have solid information that
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there are now regular russian forces in the fight. the problem is russia appears to be two different tracks. they say one thing and act differently on the ground. speaking for the united states government our attitude our approach to this crisis is shaped by the actions that russia takes on the ground and specifically the halt to the relentless military assault that's been happening over the last three weeks. >> u.s. ambassador to ukraine, cnn international correspondent nick payton-walsh joining me from the ukraine. nick heavy fighting the last 24 hours. what's the latest on the ground? >> reporter: the key issue has been the fight that has not stopped raging since the cease fire was declared. today, the separatists began by saying they have taken the railway station to the east and taken 80%. with some caution but remarkably the ukrainian ministry said we've lost part of that town and some of the troops are being captured. they're supposed to have
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hundreds if not thousands of troops and many civilians right now. hit by rocket systems. it's messy there. russian television is showing prisoners of war in troubling numbers. it's not a cease fire. >> why are the ukrainian forces sown able so unable to stop them? a matter of training weaponry what? >> reporter: the military in all fairness for decades has been underresourced subject to corruption in many different ways. they're facing a force which is in nato's opinion massively better equipped if not starved by the russian military. the kind of weapons they have is a different league. we see ukrainians towing around the battlefield, it's a mess on the ukrainian side. it's quite slick at times on the russian side even though their
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force is a hybrid of locals and also some better trained individuals as well. that's the reason why the bulk may potentially fall in the hours or days ahead. the question is does the result of that the bloodshed or mass surrender or loss of equipment, generate from the ukrainians or em bolden so much to take new parts or have lost hope since the ukrainian government? >> another deadline passed today. putin actually addressed the situation in budapest. what did he say? >> reporter: remarkable to see vladimir putin calling on ukrainian troops effectively on ukrainian soil to surrender to the separatists. he said they should basically down their arms and ukrainian officials allow that to happen but we're not seeing that happen just as yet. we see the osce supposedly monitoring the ceasefire. holding to come out with a strong statement saying they're
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profoundly disturbed by what's happening. there's no cease fire to speak of. you can't have a cease fire where the military conflict is the worst we've seen in quite some time. the question is what happens next and it's deeply troubling for the future. it's not just some small contained issue in the dinets region. it risks security of ukraine broadly and right on the doorstep of the european union. >> be carefully, nick paton walsh. slammed down the immigration reform before hundreds in the country. jeffrey toobin weighs in. and drones like those flown in battle now used back home despite illegal border crossers. sounds like a good idea until you see the price tag and why some call the program a waste of taxpayers' money. sometimes the present looked bright. sometimes romantic. there were tears in my eyes.
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immigrants now and as many as 5 million further down the road. starting tomorrow under the president's plan undocumented immigrants who came to this country as children would have been eligible to apply as being deported but the federal district judge sided with texas and 25 other states suing to stop the program. >> i'm proud to report that late last night, a federal judge halted the president's executive action plan. [ applause ] >> that's greg abbott the newly elected governor of texas. promised to repeal the case only acted after congress failed to. >> as i said before, i'm not willing to just stand by and do nothing. and engage in a lot of political rhetoric. i'm interested in actually solving problems. i'd like to see congress take that same approach. >> joining us now, senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin. before you said the president
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was on firm legal footing. what do you think of the judge's order? >> judging these days especially in the federal courts is a very political act. this judge was very carefully chosen by texas. he's a known conservative judge who has been hostile to the president on immigration reform. this is a very bad ruling for the president and his administration but it's not over and i think this case is on a rocket ride to the supreme court, maybe in a matter of weeks. >> really that fast? this judge in texas isn't actually ruling on the legality of the immigration order, correct? >> not yet. this was simply a ruling that the department of homeland security didn't follow the appropriate administrative procedures in implementing the policy. he didn't even deal with the merits yet. but now you have a situation where a program that was supposed to go into effect tomorrow is completely on hold. that's why the obama administration is going to go to
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the fifth circuit court of appeals which is a very conservative court, not sympathetic territory for the president and given the stakes here i think the supreme court can't really stay out of this for very long. and even though the supreme court term is well along and they're not in a case of this magnitude wind up the justices this spring decided by june. >> it can happen that fast? >> it can definitely happen that fast when you have stays. here you have a situation where a law was about to go into effect an administrative policy was about to go into effect and the judge stopped it. and anderson it's worth pausing to reflect that this sprang the supreme court will have life or death decisions for the president's two most important domestic policies. the health care case which will be argued on march 4th maybe
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this case of immigration and of course marriage equality is going to be argued. it's going to be a big spring at the supreme court. >> indeed. i'm not going to ask you what the supreme court will do because i know you're wary sometimes on predicting that. >> our viewers have been burned with my predictions before. i think the marriage case really is heading in one direction. you know the fact that they have not entered any stays, the fact that they have let 37 i think, states proceed with marriages suggest that they have really made up their minds. it's coming to all 50 states. >> jeff toobin thank you very much. there's another facet of the immigration story. very simply you're paying attention for it. the border patrol military drones spot people try to enter the country from mexico. the country is truly amazing to see. however, senior investigative correspondent drew griffin reports so is the price tag.
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>> reporter: they are sleek restyled weapons of war, now battling the war on arizona's border. predator drones patrolling the skies in the hunt for illegal immigrant and according to the retired marine general who runs this program, they are proving invaluable. >> we could never see the border in the same ways we could before we got these platforms. >> reporter: trouble is, general randolph tax alis is one of the few in government who think so and price tag is why. report after report by the homeland inspector general basically calling this whole operation a waste of taxpayers dollars. tom barry with the international policy studies the securing the border and nothing could be a bigger waste, he said than the $28,000 spent on a predator drone to catch just one illegal immigrant. you heard that right.
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$28,000 to catch a single illegal immigrant. >> it has been a waste since the program began in 2005. the inspector general said we shouldn't spend any money. i think it should be shut down. >> reporter: seen up close, its impressive technology. drones at 18,000 feet silently view the landscape below. determine and lock on to potential suspects crossing the vast arizona desert. commanded by a control team safely tucked inside this virtual cockpit, those controllers send the guards right to where they're needed. >> this is happening now in realtime. that's the pilot of the drone. this is the person who's a second pilot. he's watching the camera. and they have detected a group that is now crossing the border or illegally, potentially suspects and another group of gentlemen which he can't show you has the radar screen and try to vector in agents to see, are these guys illegal?
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are they carrying dope? do they need to be arrested? that's happening right now. >> reporter: seems perfect until you actually do the math. that arrest according to the department of homeland security inspector general cost you the taxpayers, $28,000. that doesn't seem like an efficient way to protect the border. >> that's one of the reasons we wrote this audit. >> reporter: each drone cost $12 million. operations run $62 million a year. the entire program is $300 million. all for nine drones that fly part-time. although he won't say it flat out, inspector general john ross' latest report is clear: military drones used by the customs and border patrol to catch illegal immigrants is a waste. the cvp has fired back saying your office the inspector general, did not capture a lot of the things we believe are
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valuable about this that can't be measured. the question you have to ask, what are we getting from this? >> you have to be able to measure your investment. that's true in the government that's true in business and i think that's what the american taxpayer wants. >> reporter: in the measure of this drone program, it's not measuring up? >> as we see it? while it contributes to border security they haven't put any measurements in place as to whether it's effective. the measurements we saw that in fact it's not in effective. >> reporter: the inspector general said his job is to point out where money is being wasted and the drones he said are indeed a waste. yet they still fly and congress is even debating to buy more. to tom barry, it's a clear example of congress and the customs and border patrol simply ignoring the facts. >> the cvp refuse to set performance goals that it snubs its nose at these very reports made by government investigators. so one can become very indignant
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as a researcher and certainly indignant as a taxpayer. >> reporter: the u.s. is now spending more than $12 billion a year supposedly to secure the border which by almost all accounts is hardly secure. with or without predator drones. >> so drew if there's so many critics of the drone program, why is it still in place? >> you know, anderson it is almost impossible to get rid of any government program once it's entrenched even a bad one. the inspector general pointed out this drone program has had bad report after bad report almost since its inception, but it has the supporters in congress that just will not give it up. >> customs and border patrol, do they want more drones? >> well not right now. to his credit the marine general, the ex-marine general who runs the program, tex alis wants to prove they work before asking for anymore.
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but there are long-term plans supported by members of congress, republicans and democrats, who want to greatly expand this border drone thing, like a half billion dollars in spending and have these drones flying the entire southwestern border. so it's not going away. >> drew thanks very much. appreciate it. you don't need to drone to see what it's like in a big chunk of the country tonight. simply put, an ugly icy mess. when will it end? the answer ahead. also a fiery train wreck that sent burning into the local river and what it did to the water supply when we continue. >> did you get a picture of that? man, that's hot. mouths are watering, lemons are squeezing and stomachs are growling. or is it just me? every minute between you and red lobster's lobsterfest feels like an eternity. and who could blame you for craving our largest variety of succulent lobster dishes all year? dishes like dueling lobster tails. with one tail topped with creamy shrimp and a second tail stuffed with tender crab. i was hungry already
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overturned causing massive explosions explosions. some oil leaked into a river but officials do not believe any of it got into the drinking supply. and chilly temperatures have a grip on most of the eastern united states from new orleans to new england and it's going to be this way for the rest of the week. at least six deaths are blamed for the latest storms and so far, the city of boston reports it has spent $30 million on snow removal. and who says only cats have nine lives? a dog is home tonight after being rescued from an icy pond near raleigh, north carolina. that is brody who spent about 30 minutes in the frigid water until firefighters got the pooch back on land. close call for that little guy. >> poor dog. all right, thanks very much amara. tonight, cnn airs a special report. witness the assassination of malcolm x. this saturday marks 50 years since he was killed in harlem. tonight's special examines the
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life and the controversy featuring people who work with him and people in the room assassinated with him. i want to show you a preview. >> apparently two men approached this speaker. discharged shots at him from apparently very close range. >> as i turned around quickly the next thing i saw was malcolm falling back in a dead faint. >> my mother threw herself over her babies and she yelled out, they're killing my husband. >> i heard shots and i saw people crawling on the floor. i saw, and so i got down too. then when i was looking out, i saw someone look in amazement to the front. i knew they had shot my husband. >> sustained one shot in the lower right chin and the other six hit him in the chest and the body. >> i looked out at him and said he's going to die. i kept saying to myself he's going to die. he's going to die.
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>> medic immediately. >> now, he wasn't dead immediately. but died very shortly. >> it's a fascinating look. the cnn special report. witnessed: the assassination of malcolm x. next at the top of the hour. i hope you watch it. coming up the ridiculist. we'll be right back. there's confidence. then there's trusting your vehicle maintenance to ford service confidence. our expertise, technology, and high quality parts mean your peace of mind. now you can get the works, a multi-point inspection with a synthetic blend oil change tire rotation, brake inspection and more. $29.95 or less.
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tonight, we have a high-tech solution to a very basic problem. you're out in public and you have to use the restroom. you might try to find any number of movie theaters malls, and the like. you know what i'm talking about but in no way involved your phone. problem solved. there's an app called air p&p. crew folks liked it. laughed. much like the invention of the lightbulb lightbulb, the steam engine it will change the way we live namely finding people to let you pay to use their bathrooms.
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i wonder why we as a society haven't cured the common cold because people of our time let you do number 2s in the homes of strangers. air p&p's founder and p.o. yes, that's what he calls himself, the p.o. in mardi gras saw a golden opportunity to capitalize. so far, not many signed up in new york but there are a few. some on the lower east side let you use their bathroom for nine bucks and promises the best hand soap and lotion ever. some in the village charge $3. the listing for this one notes it's the corner of bistro, it's a bar and by the way, has a bathroom. in midtown, pay $10 for the bathroom in this third floor walk-up and lets you pet his kitten which i hope is not a euphemism. think about it. new yorkers are not too thrilled
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about this idea. >> that's insane and interesting. >> no i will not pay to use no one's toilet. i have my own. >> i don't know what people are like to be going in somebody else's house to use their bathroom instead of going to starbucks or going home. >> wouldn't want strangers coming up to use the loo. >> i don't even like sharing it with my wife. >> at least he's honest. i think the reason this has not taken off in new york because this particular code was cracked along ago but one mr. george kozaz tan sa on seinfeld. >> anywhere in the city. best public toilet. >> 54th and 6th. >> barry, morgan apparel. mention my name. she'll give you the key. [ laughter ] all right. 65th and 10th. >> you kidding? sent to alis telly hall.
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the met. significant facilities. >> maybe air p&p will catch on and we'll use each other's toilets not remembering when we just held it on the ridiculist. thank you for watching. see you for another "360." witnessed: the assassination of malcolm x starts now. to many he was the voice of reason. never afraid to challenge why the establishment of the cruelty black americans faced. to many more though his efforts to end it opened up more wounds than they healed and no one more aware of the tension around him and within him than the man himself. in 1965 after a very public split with the nation of islam and its leader elijah