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good evening. i'm erin burnett. the breaking news. an iraqi official telling cnn that isis has burned up to 40 people alive. the iraqi official says the victims include police officers and tribal fighters all near the town of al-baghdadi. that town is nine miles away from an air base where 400 american military personnel are stationed. the united states is analyzing images of this slaughter. jim sciutto is outfront. when i first saw the reports were we all hoping this was an exaggeration and this could not be true. it seems that this horrific thing has happened. what more can you tell us. >> reporter: this one would stand out. the iraqi officials saying some 40, more iraqi security forces but local tribes men who stood up to fight isis advances on

this town close to a u.s. iraqi base that they were burned to death. most of them possibly burned to death. i've read situational reports from iraqi forces on the ground who raise the possibilities they were burned after they were killed in the fighting. this is something this isis has done in the past to desecrate the bodies. u.s. officials are not putting this past isis. we know the pentagon is now invest gatsigateing this. they are holding out the possible they were burned while they were alive bringing back horrible images of the jordanian pilot. >> those are horrible images. isis is harboring human organs for sale. i know the state department is responded to that tonight. what are they saying? >> that's right. the state department as with these allegations of burning these iraqi soldiers and tribes men alive, is saying this is very possible because of isis' history. we have seen these deeply

disturbing comments. we're not in position to confirm them. we also have no reason to doubt them giving other similar atrocities in the past. they are holding out this possibility here. keep in mind the u.n. ambassador did not provide any evidence. cnn cannot confirm it. it does raise a question if they were harvesting these organs how would they get them out of the country. a country such as iraq, a war zone onto europe where they can be sold. this is proven it's a prove very able in many ways. it's something the u.n. now is investigating. thank you. president own speaking about isis. he insists it's not a war against islam. >> al qaeda, isil and groups like it are desperate for legitimacy. they try to portray themselves as religious leaders, holy warriors in defense of the islam. they are not religious leaders.

they are terrorists. we are not at war with islam. we are at war with people who have perverted islam. >> not at war with islam. those words are highly controversial to many and a sticking point to members of congress as the president seeks their approval for the formal use of force against the terror group. jim acosta is out front. it was long and detailed. what more did he say? >> reporter: i don't think you can avoid the headline. the president staying away from islam e extremism and terrorism. the president pointed out that muslims are the victims of isis much more often people from other religious groups.

his biggest applause line when he rejected critics who say he's taken too soft an approach. here is more of what he said. >> we all know there's no one profile of a violent extremist or terrorist. there's no way to predict who will become radicalists. around the world and here in the united states. which is betrayal of all our faiths. >> reporter: you can hear the president, those comments trying to strike a balance saying that muslim leaders. he said muslim leaders in the u.s. need to do more to push back on this notion that there's a clash of civilizations between muslims and other faiths and white house officials know this

stand is controversial. ou very much. more on that crucial debate of whether this is radical islam. the words were meant for the entire world. barbara starr is outfront. the president chose his words carefully when it comes to characterizing this war. part of it is because there's this giant coalition. some countries are participating a lot. some not so much. it's a giant coalition and perhaps he wanted to be very

careful to not associate this with a religion basis his key partners are muslim countries. >> reporter: many of the key members are muslim countries with millions of people of the islamic faith. one of the things you're seeing is the president reaching out to these coalition members and offering this message one way or being able to break them on being able to recruit young men and women. if the president says we're not at war with islam, the alternative is we are at war and we're not. i think they're hoping this begins to resonate in the region with members of coalition. we have seen that in jordan. earlier this week this grand mufti of egypt ruled after the

videotape came out of those egyptian christian men being slaughtered, they said that had nothing to do with islam. this is beginning to resonate. i think you'll see more of it and the u.s. trying to get more traction for that message that this is not war against islam right in the heart of the islamic world. >> it's an important distinction to make. now two men who were at today's terror summit with president obama. good to have both you have with us. matthew let me start with you. the president said about this crucial issue of why this is not war. here he is.

>> we are not at war with islam. we were people who have perverted islam. >> i want to quote him. the reality is the islamic state is islamic, very islamic. he puts the emphasis on the word very. it's attracted psychopaths and adventure seekers. why won't the president say this is an islamic movement? i get you don't want to imply all muslims have anything to do with isis but is the u.s. wrong not to acknowledge that they are a radical islamic group? >> on the one hand we're not at war with islam. you want that to be the clear not only for the people abroad as your correspondent just said but today's conference was about muslims in the united states.

when people are carrying out acts of violence in the name of religion we have to deal with that. we need them to partner with us and they are. i think today's conference was a good turning point. i would like to hear the president say not only that we're not at war but we are at war with this radical interpretation and we're moving forward. i never heard the president get as close as today. >> not quite there but close. for some people are very skeptical here i want to get to the heart of this. let me place something else the president said. >> they do depend upon the misperception around the world that they speak in some fashion for people of muslim faith. islam is inherently violent. the terrorist who do not speak for over a billion muslims who

reject their hateful fulful ideology. >> when i heard the president say that i thought about this a study that shows honor killings of women who have engaged in premarital sex is justified. they are to use the president's words, inherently violent. they are supported by 60% of iraqis. in the president's push to emphasize the peaceful nature of islam, do you think he's at risk of endorsing these kinds of believes which are common? >> no no. i think the president was right on. i think i would disagree with matthew slightly. i think the president went all the way many this speech not just came close. i think he was very strong on we're not at war with islam because we're not. he also presented a challenge not only to muslim americans in the muslim world but americans in general to understand the nature of this enemy that we're fighting and how we best combat it. when he says we're not at war

with islam and islam is not a terrorist religion he's not validating honor killings in iraq. honor killings is not an islamic behavior. it's a behavior that exists in a traditional society which iraq happens to be. it also happens to be a practice that occurs in many other traditional societies that are patriarchial and it's deplorable. many of the behaviors are behaviors of more traditional and backwards societies. i think we have to understand that. >> it's fair point. let eets take a look at life for women under isis. you have to be accompanied by a male guardian. mow must wear double layered veils. let's talk saudi arabia an ally of the united states. we all have been there. you can now't drive a car. you can't leave the country without a male's approval.

you must wear a loose gown and cover your head. one is an ally of the united states, a more moderate brand of islam. >> true. saudi arabia is modernizing. it's changing slowly very slowly. some might say glacially, but it is changing. the attitudes are changing and saudi arabia is moving in a different direction. the difference between saudi arabia and isis is that isis is a terrorist movement that absorbs these traditional behaviors and behaves rather brutally to everyone. muslims and non-muslims. saudi arabia has the traditional behavior and does commit some i think the floggings, et cetera but it's not a terrorist country and doesn't aggressively pursue terrorism as a tactic as isis

does. it's totally different creatures. >> thank you very much to both of you. the question is still whether funding for isis why so much funding still comes from their countries. thank you both very much. next a masked terrorist. the voice of that gruesome isis video where 21 christians were beheaded in libya. he sounded american. we have the voice analyst. as isis gains ground in libya, italians are terrified. the mom killed in a road rage incident. police say she and her son went in pursuit of the man in the other car. who fired the first shot? fact. when you take advil you get relief right at the site of pain. wherever it is. advil stops pain right where it starts. relief doesn't get any better than this. advil.

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another highly produced video from isis featuring a mask terrorist calling on allah. >> all praises due to allah, the strong and mighty and may peace be upon the one sent by the sword as a mercy for all the words. >> reporter: investigators are trying to analyze the video. >> it was north american. the best sign is he said ours and words like mercy and world where as if he were from british influence it would be mercy or will. >> reporter: there are other clues that might help narrow the time the speaker may have been

in north america. >> could have been years old to start. he may have been in america or canada from ages 10 to 16. some considerable period of time. >> reporter: the process is similar to that used to identify the terrorists commonly known as jihadi john featured in earlier videos that show the beheading of western hostages. authorities have been able to identify him as being from britain. his name known to intelligence officials. the speaker could have learned his english in montreal canada because of what he called residential patterns similar to montreal residents of foreign asent. >> reporter: there's some 150 americans that have attempted to go to fight in iraq and syria or have done so successfully. the impact is featured. they are prize recruited not

only for their propaganda value but also for the possible that they might return home someday and carry out terror on the u.s. homeland in europe or elsewhere. >> thank you very much. robert o'neil the seal team 6 men who killed bin laden. good to have you with us. robert as a layperson when i watch this video the first thing i noticed is the speaker was different from the speaker than any other video. it sounded like he learned english from an american speaker. you've watched it. what does it sound like to you? >> thank you for having me. i did watch it. i was with another navy seal. we commented he was from the united states. he wasn't from london like jihadi john. they do have americans over there fighting the jihad. they used him on purpose to prove they have a lot of

westerners fighting for isis. >> tim, i want to play again this very brief clip that we're showing of this speaker. here he is. >> all praised due to allah the strong and mighty and maybe us exempt peace be upon the one sent by sword as a mercy for all the wordslds. >> it didn't seem like american english is his first language. do you think he spent time in the united states? are you able to make any guesses to how much and what capacity? >> clearly he has a foreign accent on top of the american accent. he spent a considerable amount of time in north america to be speaking like that or with north americans. he's not first. obvious liply we have moneyhundreds

of these individuals. it's a cueoupe when ever they can get an american as a spokesperson outlet. it's a big recruiting tool. >> the speaker looks different than the other terrorist. other other one is wearing black head to toe. you can see he's wearing camo and a bullet proof vest. my initial impression is he's wearing digital camouflage like the executioners in the burning

of the pilot. what's it's doing is showing a solidarity of leadership. they are probably just kind of just saying we are a state abdomenand an army. >> will u.s. intelligence be able to figure out this man, his past his story or not. >> i think if we have sources close enough to the individual this is guy is related to, we will. it will be whether he's have cairo and then resided in the united states and canada. people at both ends of that life know him. hopefully those people will realize how wrong he is in what he's doing now and help identify him. >> thanks very much to both of you. an important moment to see

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the growing threat of isis. the italian government deploying counter terrorism police to protect major tourist sites after a video warning the group is south of rome. new isis expansion into libya is now just about 100 miles from the southernmost coast of italy. italy is afraid. >> reporter: that's right. italy is on high alert after a video by isis showing, warning that the group is south of rome. this comes after previous

warning last october when the jihadist group said they would hang their black flag over st. peter square. >> that's pretty amazing that they are that concerned. obviously tourist, western tourist, american tourists are soft targets and significant targets for isis. in italy they are worried about how isis militants may get into the country. it may be easy to come from libya. >> reporter: that's right. they are very, very concerned about an influx of migrant boats coming from libya. the italian navy is doing what they can to rescue the migrants. they are concerned that they don't know if they'll be able to tell the difference between potential jihadi fighters and

true seekers looking for a better life, a safer place fleeing war. >> gives a whole new perspective. thank you. libya is calling on the united nations to lift the arms embargo so it can fight against isis. the terror group is filling a power vacuum. >> reporter: the images released by isis tells a chilling story. he's wearing a suicide vest. he drives away then this picture. isis claims the man was one of its fighters who attacked a libyan check point in bengazi. the propaganda message is clear. isis claims it's moving further into libya. also symbolized by the mass execution of egyptian christians

on libyan shores. a dark turn for the country. jubilation as the arab springs sweeps across libya in 2011. rebels seeking to oust decades long dictator lead a civil war. the dictator clinging to power begins a bloody power with his own people. >> it's good for his people. >> reporter: the rebels defeat him. he's murdered in the very streets he once controlled. cameras from around the world captured celebration. that was then. >> i think it's safe to say that the arab spring is dead. >> essentially we left and there's a shell. >> we left and there's a shell. >> reporter: a power vacuum

without the dictator libyachaos. ripe breeding ground for isis. >> isis has successfully taken advantage of harboring itself in either failed states or states on the way to failure. isis has manipulated that situation to its advantage. >> reporter: with fears it's strengthening in libya and beyond its borders. >> the military commander who led allied forces during the 2011 mission in libya. good to have you with us. appreciate your taking the time. let me start with this question about libya being a haven for isis. 100 miles away from italy and the rest of europe. isis has threatened with we're south of rome.

how serious is the risk? >> it's extremely high. it's the geography. it's a short stretch of water. the isis fighters can slip in with the waves of illegal migrants or they can hire a boat and come ashore on one of the islands. we have to remember the country of malta and island country between italy and libya and huge symbolic value. >> it was the chaos and the emptyiness left after the mission. isis dedicating the cover of the magazine to its designer.

they should get out of the house, find a crusader and kill him. obviously this is the isis propaganda we have heard so much of. when you now have isis in libya with stronghold in libya as opposed to syria or iraq how serious of a threat is that for europe? does that change the game? >> i think it does. i think it will enable europe to begin to focus. i would like to see nato look at this. of course the italians or any other nation can convene in article 4 discussion with nato to ramp up measures to protect within nato borders. obviously across the short stretch of water the italians have got to be there.

>> do you have any regrets or it was a terrible dictator. i remember being in the country when he was the leader and the fear a lot of people had. there was a stability. the world knew where the country stood. there wasn't isis. do you have any regrets? should the world have regrets? would he have been better? >> i don't think so. i think you have categorized it correctly. he was such a horrific dictator. we have only begun to learn what he did to that country. it's ugly but of time you look at libya, which has oil, relatively educated population terrific advantage with a long coastline. they've got the abilities to overcome this. if you had spoken to french men in the wake of the french revolution they would have

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tonight, there are questions about why a mother of four was shot and killed in her driveway after a road rage incident. police say the victim her name is tammy meyers, pursued her killer before she was gunned down. the man hunt is still on. they have not found him. tonight her loved ones are defending her. >> reporter: the family of slain mother tammy meyers defending her actions after police reveal new details indicating meyers may have escalated the incident that turned deadly. >> my mom was protecting me this night. she was doing what every mother would do. >> emotions get ahead of what you should do. there might have been case of that. >> reporter: there was a case of aggression on both parties. we want to take you along on what police say was the sequence of events. she was finishing up a driving lesson for her daughter in this

parking lot right outside the school a couple of minutes from her home. she left the school and at some point she came upon the driver who would kill her. >> a vehicle came up apt a high rate of speed behind her and pulled off to the side and cut in front of her. as the vehicle did that her daughter had reached over and honked the horn. police say meyers and the driver argued. they drove home to get help. they arrived home safely but then meyers picked up her son who grabbed his gun and they both got back into the car the drive along and find the driver she had just argued with. they found him. police have not said what happened during the second encounter encounter. meyers and her son returned home. this time police say the suspect followed. shooting at meyers killing her. her son fired back. despite the criticism that meyers may have had a hand in escalating an already tense situation, her family says no

one should have died over something so trivial. >> i did what i had to do to protect my family. everyone can think what they have to think. i did it for a reason. i'd do it for anyone i love. >> i know you had chance to see the family today. did they give you any further details? >> reporter: they came out of their home behind me and the car is also there. they did not want to talk but they did say that they were very busy and in mourning and having to plan her funeral. erin. >> thank you very much. the tragedy that the person who did this is still at large. they have not found him. criminal defense attorney and our legal analyst. danny, this new detail. we know the victim tammy meyers came home after the initial road rage incident. she went home. she got her son who was armed

with a gun. they went out together to find the other driver. they did find him and she ended up losing her life. chef killed. does this make her the aggressor in any way in this case? >> it sounds like it. the narrative we're getting is almost exclusively from the meyers side. remember this is not case of someone defending their home. initially, they were probably the aggressor. after all mom comes home and gets her son and gets into the car with a firearm to con front someone. generally the initial aggressor cannot avail themselves of self-defense unless they completely retreat, which under these facts might have happened. if they returned completely to the home. this entire case will come down to who actually shot first because right now the narrative is that the people in the car shot first. you better believe that when and if those people are found, they will say, the exact opposite. they were fired upon first and

they were acting in self-defense. you can almost bet the farm on it. if that car pulled up and initiated firing out the window at the mother and son then even though mom and son may have done something very dumb in getting in the car and driving and con fronting people if they completely retreated and were no imminent threat then those in the car will not be ail to avail themselves of self-defense. >> it sounds like we're not going to know. there's the shock they haven't found the suspect who killed tammy meyers. you're saying he's not going to be able to claim defense until they can determine who shot first. what's shocking to me is so far there hasn't been any eyewitnesss. this is a suburban area. does that surprise you? do you think there are people who might be able to give us the answer of what really happen snd. >> when people see crime it's a well known fact that they suffer memory loss because the reality is it's usually safer to not get

involved unfortunately. it might also be the fact that nobody saw it. critical here is the police have almost completely adopted the meyers narrative. that comes from don't forget two people who arguably did something very foolish coming home getting a gun and going back out to confront people. the real fascinating part will be what the people in the car say. it will sound nothing like the meyer's. next do you have what it takes to go to mars and never return? this is not contact the movie people. this is the real deal. you can really go to mars and there are people who are going to go. you'll meet them next.

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tense. >> it's amazing though. i mean some of these people have such idealistic views of why they want to do this. we went from 200,000 to 100. now where from here? they're not all going to get to go. >> right. they're not all going to get to go. later this year they're going to cut that group of 100 to six groups of four and theoretically what will happen next is those groups would then train for the next eight years and then they would see who would be the final group that finally gets to go. i mean these people are dedicated to science. i know a lot of people when we were doing the story said jason, these people have to be whacky but they really are a dedicated group. >> they are. would you go? >> i would watch someone go. >> there we go. ah all right. >> for round trip i'd go. >> yes, round trip changes everything. >> changes everything. >> outfront next -- in you are looking a

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today, getting a lift ticket to luan mountain is getting a whole new meaning. jeanne moos explains. >> reporter: why are a few knuckle head bostonians choosing to deposit themselves in snow banks wearing shorts? >> i'm recording. oh [ bleep ]. >> reporter: if the fall doesn't get you, the frostbite might. >> so i'm asking people to start their nonsense right now when it comes -- these are adults jumping out windows. >> reporter: jumping off car roofs. teetering on railings. leaping off porches. launching themselves downstairs

but it's the high flying high jinks that have boston's mayor frosted. >> first of all, it's a foolish thing to do. and you could kill yourself. >> reporter: there's a name for this behavior. >> boston blizzard challenge. >> this is the the blizzard challenge. >> reporter: some involve less challenge than others. the mayor asked people to act responsibly. >> this isn't loon mountain. this is the city of boston. >> reporter: loon mountain are you accusing your citizens of acting loony? new hampshire on its facebook page loon mountain is milking the mention by doctoring with the resort's gone do las. if you're going to dive stick to the shallow end of the pool to practice your butterfly and your backstroke. >> no! >> reporter: because you're going to give the mayor a stroke

if you keep this up. >> boston blizzard! >> reporter: and you wouldn't want the mayor to flip out. jeanne moos cnn, new york. >> just when i was about to say it was all men, there came that woman and ruined my line. thank you so much for joining us. "ac360" starts now. good evening, tonight. president obama answers critics who wonder how he can stop isis when he won't even use the phrase islamic extremism. he's trying to fight a war with political correctness. a strong reaction on all sides of the issue. the president said he's simply taking away the legitimacy that al qaeda and followers seek. we'll play you some of his remarks and debate the central question. later, joined by author and remarkable new article about what isis ultimately wants. the answer quite simply is a muslim version of armageddon. that's coming up. we begin with several other isis