stroke if you keep this up. >> boston blizzard! >> reporter: and you wouldn't want the mayor to flip out. jeanne moos cnn, new york. >> just when i was about to say it was all men, there came that woman and ruined my line. thank you so much for joining us. "ac360" starts now. good evening, tonight. president obama answers critics who wonder how he can stop isis when he won't even use the phrase islamic extremism. he's trying to fight a war with political correctness. a strong reaction on all sides of the issue. the president said he's simply taking away the legitimacy that al qaeda and followers seek. we'll play you some of his remarks and debate the central question. later, joined by author and remarkable new article about what isis ultimately wants. the answer quite simply is a muslim version of armageddon. that's coming up. we begin with several other isis headlines. one in an act of horror straight

out of the dark ages burning dozens of people alive. there's that and efforts to identify this killer. the spokesman on that propaganda video, showing the beheading of 21 egyptian christians. his american sounding accent caught the ear of investigators. chief national security correspondent jim sciutto joins us now. first, the english speaking executioner in that video. any clear picture as to where he might be from? >> reporter: not conclusively yet. we spoke to language experts today. they had a hard listen. what they heard is the accent of someone, if not a native speaker from north america, might have either been educated in north america or learned from someone. a teacher from somewhere in north america. this is interesting because one of those linguistics we spoke to from montreal the way he rolled his rs. a lot can be determined from a voice. remember jihadi john?

the english accent not only identified as someone who lived in england but have a specific identity of that attacker. this is something that investigators will continue to look in this case as well. >> i want to ask you about a claim that was made by iraq's ambassador to u.n. that isis may be harvesting organs from their victims for money. has that been confirmed at all? it seems that it's not beyond the pale of what they'd do but harvesting requires timely manner to reuse or sell. >> reporter: no officials we've spoken to have put this beyond isis because we've seen the degree of their brutality. they say it's very possible that they would try to do this. open question as to how you could harvest those and make money from it but interesting reaction from the state department tonight saying they're aware of these alarming allegations and they say there's no reason to doubt it because of isis' history and after all, that's coming from iraq's

ambassador to the u.n. but we have no confirmation yet. the iraqi ambassador did not present evidence of it. the question you raised a fair one. >> isis militants burned 40 iraqis to death including the members of the iraqi security forces. you dug into that. what more can you tell us? >> reporter: iraqi official from cnn told us that's exactly what happened. this fight in baghdadi said 40 both iraqi security forces iraqi soldiers as well as local tribesmen who have taken arms against isis. many burned to death, if not most of them burned to death. i read situation reports from witnesses on the ground that said it was also possible that these men were killed in the fighting and then burned afterwards. this is something that isis has done as well. desecrating bodies. but again, the reaction from u.s. officials including from the pentagon they're investigating and their attitude is listen it's very possible because isis has proven itself

very capable and willing of carrying out atrocities like this. >> jim sciutto, no doubt about it. thank you. from the front line alcan kurdish fighters with a major push. word from washington. how much words matter in defeating isis overseas and stopping isis and other groups and acts of terror at home. president obama spoke about counterering extreme. he confronted critics that say, unspecifically islamic extremism is a mistake or even dangerous. >> leading up to this summit there's been a fair amount of debate in the press and among pundits about the words we use to describe and frame this challenge. i want to be very clear about how i see it. al qaeda and isil and groups like it are desperate for legitimacy. they try to portray themselves as religious leaders, holy warriors in defense of islam.

that's why isil presumes to declare itself the islamic state. and they propagate the notion that america and the west generally, is at war with islam. that's how they recruit. that's how they tyrannicalize young people. we must never accept the premise that they put forward. because it is a lie. nor should we grant these terrorists the religious legitimacy they seek. they are not religious leaders. they're terrorists. >> president obama called for tolerance towards muslims from americans and reform in the muslim world. he singled out the lack of democracy in muslim countries and told clerics in the audience they need to do better with young people to quote isis your is boring.

maajid nawaz. and fareed. you talked about this. does the wording matter? >> yes, in two senses. if you're a scholar and accurately present the phenomenon we're dealing with of course it is islamic extreme im. but the president of the united states is not a scholar. he's not trying to get this right. he's a political leader. he's trying to say, what is the most constructive way i can frame this to attach myself to a large body of muslims in countries like indonesia, 300 million non-abiding terrorists and don't demean them and their faith and isil the extremists. i'm not going to play their game call them islamic leaders. i describe the way i want to. they're terrorists. in other words, if you're a scholar looking from the outside, you'd say, yeah. most of this violence is coming

out of the world of islam. it's fair to call it islamic extremism. the president is saying, i'm not going to elegitimize them. in a sense, both are right. the president is being a political leader. he's not trying to get at the factual accuracy here. >> maajid what do you say of that? the critics say unless you understand the enemy you're fighting call it what it is unless you're able to fight this a war of ideas as much as a military conflict you're not going to be able to truly defeat this enemy. >> yes. first of all, i speak, anderson as a muslim and a liberal. at the forefront of my concerns is also anti-muslim attacks. having said all of that and i agree with fareed it's not a black and white issue. precisely for the political reasons mentioned. there is a word that can be used. not at once islamic extremism and is also not burying our heads in the sand and denying,

islamist extreme. the suffix islamist denotes the plit politicization of the religion. >> why does that make a difference? >> islamism. the one is on the non-muslim side. when there's an idea needs to be defeated the everyday average non-muslim the only word they know is the religion of islam and think the ideology is the face of islam itself and there be end up blaming all muslims. on the muslim side there's another problem. and that is that, you know there are liberal muslims out there attempting not just political reform of the democratic nature the president referred to but also reform within their faith and they need the lexicon and the tools to be able to distinguish the religion from its politicization and without that, isil will monopolize the discourse and win the debate. >> for you, islamism is the belief islam not just a religion but a political system a

governing system determine all aspects of life? is that the distinction you're making? >> with the various sects of denomination. islamism is a desire to impose islam over society. it can manifest its violently. when it does call it jihadism but also politically. it's still a problematic ideology. to impose anyone's faith over anyone else is inherently flawed and must be challenged. al qaeda didn't inspire extremism. this was this ideology that inspired al qaeda and unless and until we recognize the problem isn't these groups to take out their leaderships but the ideology that inspires them, we'll have a new isil tomorrow. >> i think that's an important point, fareed. isis can be defeated and another group will pop up. there is a core belief here that is transferable to a number of groups. >> that's exactly right. the issue is not, is this

ideology real? do these people believe in it? the article in the atlantic. >> we're going to interview in a second. >> these guys really believe in this ideology. of course they do. just as believing communists and believing marxists believed in that. the question is why is it working? why is it spreading? what is the hole it's filling? and to answer that question you have to ask yourself what are the conditions of the political and social conditions that are allowing it to flourish? the fact that the arab world, you have almost no democracy. you have almost no economic progress. you have almost no social progress. allows groups like isis and allows groups like al qaeda, it allowed them to say, we are the answer. cast aside your failed ideologies you're living with. look at the regimes that you live under. we provide you an alternative. it is precisely because they can look at the very desperate

stagnant present of the muslim world to present this invented past that they say is much better. so that's the question you always have to ask. nobody doubts that these crazies believe their crazy ideas just as when i was growing up in india, there were crazy maoist revolutionaries all over. and they would explain what they meant by the kind of world they wanted. i'm sure that's what they wanted. the question is why were people believing? why did they have a following? what obama is trying to say, you've got to address that. you've got to fill that hole that right now radical islam is filling. >> maajid do you believe the united states -- because, essentially, the core of those who oppose the president on this he's not using the correct language the real language the idea that the united states isn't battling isis in the correct way. i mean does this argument over the language does it represent

a misunderstanding of what the enemy is? >> of course it does. i agree with everything fareed just said again. but let's take the national republic. we were dealing with germans after world war i feeling victimized. there are psychological structural economic issues that must be addressed but nanaziism had to be addressed. i fear anderson the voldemort effect. if we cannot name this call the islamist ideology what i fear it does is increase the hysteria increases the paranoia and what will happen is a bigger backlash against muslims. we see this in europe a far right pop ewe list movements not just saying we're worried about extremists but actually blaming each and every muslim and insisting muslims expelled from

europe. that's the voldemort effect i'm worried about. >> fareed? >> one thought. the president i don't think wants to use complicated terms like islamism but if you were to name it how would it change anything? more drone strikes, fewer drone strikes, more special ops, fewer? at the military front, you fight these guys. try to kill them. and the political social front, try to find some way to reform these societies so people have some alternative. what you call it doesn't really matter. >> maajid i just want you to be able to respond to that. it does matter in the battle? >> of course. because part of dealing it with as well as dealing with the structural economic problems fareed rightly raises i care greatly what he just said there but an additional factor within muslim discourse and muslim societies, civil society resilience and civil society engagement against this islamist ideology can't happen if we don't recognize it exists. it is not al qaeda inspired

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. president obama and pundits in a war of words over isis. the actual war taking another bloody turn. isis launched major offensive south of kurbeale. the latest from ben weederman. >> reporter: tonight, the situation in gware, west from here. at 9:00 last night, there was an assault by isis on three kurdish positions to the west of here that went on for about five

hours. we saw on kurdish tv some of the kurdish positions. it looked like they had empty machine gun shells up to their ankles at least. and that gives you an indication of the intensity of the fighting that was taking place in pitch dark with the fog. so it was very difficult for coalition aircraft to provide any cover to those kurdish fighters. it was only when they were able to push the fighters the isis fighters away. that the coalition aircraft were able to become engaged. and according to kurdish officials, 40 of the isis fighters were killed at the end of that 5.5 hour battle. >> how well equipped at this point are the kurds? that was an issue early on when this began against isis and the kurds. do they have what they need to keep propelling these attacks? >> reporter: i don't think there's any question they don't have what they need. they have received some light weaponry from european countries, but certainly, it's nothing compared to what isis

has. keep in mind that last june isis drove the iraqi army out of moesill and won as a result. a huge amount of modern american equipment. humvees, communication equipment. ammunition, heavy artillery that allows isis to seriously outgun the kurds. the kurds have a thousand kilometers 600 a mile front with isis which they have to defend. and certainly, in terms of equipment, they are outgunned. they don't have their own air power. they depend upon baghdad for its weaponry and they haven't been very generous in that regard. they have very little in the way, for instance of night vision capability which, of course, would have been very useful last night during this assault. anderson? >> weedman, appreciate your time. president obama said we're at war with people who perverted

islam. the question is that really true? in a new piece in the atlantic graham wood writes the state that islamic is very islamic. it attracted psychopaths but the religion preached derives from coherent and learned interpretations of islam. graham wood joins us now. it's fascinating article. you say the nature of isis is more like a distaupian alternate reality? >> i would call it a death cult. isis believes it is involved in the production of the end times. it believes that it's directly involved in creating the stages of an apocalyptic future that will bring about the fulfillment of prophesy. >> unlike al qaeda, it's crucial for isis to control territory to create this caliphate. >> they believe if they control

territory, if they act properly then they can fulfill, particularly elements of prophesy a part of it. president obama said we want to avoid fulfilling the narrative to push forward, a clash between civilizations. that is a necessary part of that prof if i. >> between islam and the west. >> yes. that's correct. >> others have written about this as well but it was well spelled out in your article, that the sheer volume of enemies that isis believes they have the people who isis labels apos apostates. not just westerners but 200 million muslims. >> isis in some ways treats christians much better than most muslims. they believe that christians for example, don't need to be killed. they can be enslaved. they can live under the islamic state without adopting islam, if they pay a particular tax.

whereas with muslims, they're very very particular about who qualifies as a proper muslim and who is in their mind perverting the faith. and those people they believe, need to be killed. >> the justification for killing anyone who is shia for instance, they believe that's a more modern or call them the moderns. it's the more modern interpretation of the koran, which you wrote means that the original interpretation of the koran was somehow incorrect, which was something they can't tolerate anybody saying. >> that's right. they view any innovation they call it bidda, a reprehensible innovation any of this is a perversion of the faith and if you reject the inearn si of the koran, the hadith and the early actions of the prophet mohammed you're in their mind rejecting islam. this is what muslims have been

reluctant to make. it's not something that they do. it's considered perilous even to their own souls. if you pronounce excommunication with another muslim and that person is actually a muslim then actually that makes you a non-muslim too. that's a really dangerous game for someone who believes these things to take. but isis does it. >> they're so convinced in their own interpretation that they believe they are right. >> yes, absolutely. and when i spoke to isis supporters they would openly say, oh this guy who works for the jordanian regime he is not a muslim. this is a person who is someone who prays five times a day, but purely by the action of working for a government or drinking repeatedly or doing things that implicitly showed that in their minds, this person had rejected clear elements of islamic law, that's enough. >> voting having not having a beer being clean shaven. things like that. >> in certain circumstances when it shows that they have rejected

the innerency of the koran. >> when president obama said they perverted islam, is that true? >> he doesn't really have the authority to say that. i don't think any non-muslim has the authority to say that or convince others that that's the case. what a non-muslim can say objectively is whether the actions of isis have pressed in the history of islam. the things don't come from nowhere. they're elements of islam for the vast majority of muslims around the world are either in not applied, or not interested in doing things like stoning adulterers. >> when you say it's a death cult it's solely geared towards the end times. apock apock vision.

>> when jesus comes to their aid, they will actually almost be diminished to nothing. they believe there will only be 5,000 of their fighters left and jesus will save the day for them. >> jesus saves the day for them? >> at jerusalem, jooesz comes to earth at dmast kus and they're circled by the anti-messiah type of figure and jesus come to their aid and save them. >> fascinating article. i urge people to read it the atlantic. it's really just fascinating. graem, thank you so much. more than a hundred patients at a california hospital warn they may have been exposed to a deadly bacteria. how it happened coming up and explosion of fire through an oil refinery. details on that ahead. al question that needs to be asked is "what is it that we can do that is impactful?" what the cloud enables is computing to empower cancer researchers.

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wind. a lot of these areas are going to be very windy. so the potential record lows lexington, louisville nashville, detroit, key west even breaking a record low of 49 degrees. we could be in the negatives all across lexington, louisville detroit tomorrow. 13 below zero in lexington. by friday morning, the story doesn't improve. detroit 12 below zero. marquette, 19 below zero. up and down the east coast in the single digits. once again, we could see record lows. key west and even miami with a low of 40 degrees which is very cold for south florida. >> another storm expected this weekend. >> absolutely. another storm on the way. they're just lining up. winter storm watches already in effect from little rock nashville, huntsville knoxville. that's included for friday night into saturday. mainly rain in the south.

a nasty wintry mix anywhere from little rock all the way through middleton. timing this out friday evening, we could see an icy mix from nashville to little rock. these are the same places that saw the nasty wintry mix days ago. it's going to make its way into the carolinas dipping down into the georgia mountains by friday night into saturday morning. right now, it looks like mostly rain for new york. could see a wintry mix between new york and boston. right now, boston is right on that line. we could see snow or a wintry mix as we go into the end of the weekend. >> last thing they need there, more snow. jennifer gray thank you very much. more on the other stories we're watching. amara walker has a "360" bulletin. amara? >> 100 pages at the ronald reagan ucla may have been note exposed to a deadly super bug. from end skopic procedures from october to january. president obama has named joseph

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police are still looking for the suspect. sara sidner has the latest. >> reporter: walking by the makeshift memorial as they prepare to make funeral arrangements. meyer, a mother of father shot and killed after a road rage incident. >> my mom was doing what every mother would do to protect her baby. >> reporter: while the family first explained this as a case of road rage only on the part of the suspected killer they now find themselves defending meyer's role in possibly escalating the situation. >> emotions get ahead of what you should do. i think that there might be a case of that. >> reporter: so what happened? initially, the family only revealed details that the driver suspected of killing meyers went off the handle with no provocation but new details are emerging. police say meyers was finishing up a driving lesson with her daughter in the parking lot just two minutes from their home and then the two left the school and ended up in some kind of altercation with the man who

would eventually kill tammy myers. >> a vehicle came up at a high rate of speed behind her and then ultimately cut in front of her. as that vehicle did that her daughter had reached over and honked the horn. >> reporter: police say myers and that driver sketched here argue. myers and the daughter drove home. they arrive safely and could have ended there, but it didn't. >> her 22-year-old son came out of the house. got into the car. he was armed with a firearm that is registered to him and then they left the house. they left the house in search of that person. mrs. myers was involved with an incident just prior. >> reporter: police say they found the driver they were looking for, but gave no details on what happened in that second encounter. what we do know is myers and her son returned home and this time the suspect followed. gunfire was exchanged and tammy myers was struck in the head. she was taken off life-support

on valentine's day. despite the criticism that myers and her son may have had a hand in escalating the situation, her family says no one should ever have died over something so trivial. >> i did what i had to do to protect my family. everyone can think what they have to think. i did it for a reason. i'd do it for anyone i love. >> sara sidner joins us. was anyone else in the neighborhood endangered during the shootout? >> reporter: you know a lot of the neighbors did hear it. we talked to a neighbor just a moment ago who said that his son heard the shots going off when they came out. they realized that tammy meyers had been shot. we actually saw one of the holes from a bullet in the wall over there. so there was fear after everyone figured out what the sound was and then found out that meyers had been killed. anderson? >> sara sidner thank you very much. joining us criminal defense attorney mark geragos and former

federal prosecutor jeffrey toobin. jeff what do you make of this? obviously, there's a lot of stuff we don't know. >> the key issue here is what is the version of the facts from the mystery man involved in all of this? but it would have been better if they went home and forgot about this. i know it's sacrilege to say this but if people didn't have guns none of this would have happened. >> the son saying he was defending his family how? >> it doesn't make sense. the incident had already taken place. they had an unplesasant encounter on the road. there was no follow-up necessary as far as i can tell. so i don't want to blame this guy who lost his mother but i mean, it certainly seems it would have been better off for all concerned if they simply left this alone. >> mark could the suspect still

at large claim he was acting in self-defense even though apparently from the early information we have he apparently then followed these two people and that's where the shooting took place? >> it's amazing how far this story has turned in just one day. it would not surprise me in the least if the person who did the shooting either conjures up or claims at some point, look. they came chasing after me. they waved the gun. who knows if the gunshots were fired, we don't know that yet. we seem to keep learning things by the hour. i could think of ten different scenarios where the person who did the shooting said he was doing it in response to or in self-defense from somebody who was chasing him down who was armed and who, apparently had at least at some point fired some shots. >> and who's to say, by the way, they even have the right guy? they were not a police force. they could have gotten into a confrontation with an entirely different person who wound up in this fatal conflict.

>> that's exactly right. i mean it's entirely possible and who's going to be the person who's going to negate that? the only person who's going to negate it is going to be the daughter who was doing the driving lessons. other than that there's nobody else who was a witness to who the road rage was. >> the police say the son didn't fire the first shot. does that matter that he fired back? >> the police are saying that. the police are saying that. but that doesn't mean anything. i mean, you've got shots fired right now. the police are saying that based on what, the son who is saying that and the family who was apparently letting out information that wasn't correct in the first place. so the police don't have any corner on the truth and shouldn't be seizing the moral high ground here. it's way too early to determine who was shooting first, who was doing what. we certainly did not get the first story correct. >> and by the way, the one thing we know for sure is these guns were fired in a residential neighborhood which to put it mildly -- >> exactly like the ok corral.

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the defense in the trial of the man accused killing chris kyle of course the subject of the movie "american sniper." the prosecution rested yesterday. today the suspect's sister brother-in-law and former girlfriend were on the stand

talking about his behavior before and after he killed kyle as well as kyle's friend. shootings the defense said were a result of psychosis. >> reporter: right after eddie ray routh gunned down chris kyle and chad littlefield, said he was talking about pig sucking on his soul and he had to take two souls before they could take his. she called 9-1-1 right after he left in kyle's pickup truck. >> he said he had killed? >> he said he killed two guys in a shooting range. like he's all crazy. he's [ bleep ] psychotic. i'm sorry. >> is he on drugs? >> i'm sorry for my language. i don't know if he's on drug or not but i know he has been. >> reporter: the man i knew was not my brother and then said i love you but i hate your demons. the judge is allowing courtroom

audio to be broadcast until the trial is over but prosecutors are zeroing in on those last words from routh's sister in that 9-1-1 call. the drugs have been the focus since opening statements. >> drugs and alcohol that morning? he knew what he was doing was wrong. >> reporter: routh ignored orders to stop smoking weed and drinking alcohol and smoke and dranked whiskey with his uncle hours before killing the man known as the american sniper. >> i can't see him, i can't shoot him. >> reporter: as routh descended into psychological troubles started dating jennifer a degree in psychology herself. could be quick tempered and erratic. held girlfriend and roommate at knife point in the apartment and the night before the killing, she said i asked him if he was seeing things and said yes. i asked if he was hearing things and said yes. he told me they were listening to us and when i tried to speak

with him, he would take his hand and cover my mouth. that was the last night routh would spend with the girlfriend he just asked to marry him. not long after, he'd be seen handcuffed in the back of a police car. >> ed lavandera joins us now. the family said he suffered from ptsd. what do we know about his military history? >> reporter: a lot of people when they hear he served in iraq said it had to do with that but no record of combat. it was his experience in a humanitarian mission in haiti that affected him deeply. his mother talked about how he saw dead bodies on the beach and those images and those experiences he had in haiti, his family members say had a much deeper and more profound effect on him. >> ed lavandera, thank you very much. in a few foemts you can see a special report in the life of the film based around him. blockbuster, the story of american sniper.

top of the hour on cnn. first though a lot of people sick with the cold and snow by now but this winter bringing out the best in human ingenuity. two words for you. banana hammer. the ridiculist is next.

time now for the ridiculist. we'll try to melt your icy heart with a story of few people who put cold and snow to good use. sure gotten almost a hundred inches of snow in boston this year but what better chance to perfect your snow swimming? everyone knows about snow angels. rarely do we see the snow butterfly butterfly. quite inspiring, is it not? and tourism web site inspired people to visit the florida keys and come back when things thaw out. attitude truly is everything. that was never purely expressed than when the weather channel's jim cantore from plymouth massachusetts. and a rare phenomenon. thunder snow. >> oh yes! yes! we got it baby. we got it. whoo! whoo! we got it.

yes. listen to that. oh again. again. that's a two-fer, baby. yes. again. that's a three -- you've got to be kidding me. you've got to be kidding me. >> now, that is enthusiasm for one's work. it is especially nice to see him go bonkers like that since we all know he's a master of keeping his cool. >> we've not come into the best part of the storm. that's coming later on tonight. here at the college of charleston they're already having a good time. >> you need the guy. across the country, outstanding in the cold and i do mean outstanding. >> how cold it is we used a banana we have. one of our snack items we put in the snow and now this banana completely frozen. it is now a banana hammer. any home projects you could use

this to complete that. yes, banana completely frozen. that is how cold it is out here. >> that's a rock hard banana right there. all this time you've been buying your hammers at the hardware store when you could have left your groceries outside. this is what we call a weather report with an appeal. >> a banana hammer. do not mess with rita patterson. she's armed with the banana hammer. >> how can you not start hammer time after j.p. drops a banana hammer? >> that's exactly what i'm talking about. attitude. you can complain about the cold or when life hands you snow, make a banana hammer. words to live by on the ridiculist. see you at 11:00 for another edition of 360. blockbuster the story of american sniper starts now.

the following is a cnn special report. >> the biggest weekend ever for a film in january. the following is a cnn special report. >> the biggest weekend ever for a film in january. "american sniper". >> the greatest war movie of our time. >> $300 million. >> hopefully we can educate those of us who aren't really familiar with the plight of a soldier and a soldier's family. >> my only regret was the guys i couldn't save. that's what keeps me up at night. >> he knew he was serving a purpose. he knew he was saving lives. >> controversy. >> did he tell the whole truth? >> a propaganda film that is as authentic as dirty harry. >> the filmmaker michael moore called the snipers cowards. >> he was a protector. always has been from the time we were little. >> american sniper's success will impact jurors.