throughout the middle east is very important. i think also talking about the troep. this is a war between islam and the west is an important thing. you know what? what breaks my heart about this and i say this in all sincerity is this was obvious when the president came to office. he gave the opposite speech in cairo. he said we don't care about democracy. we turned our back on democracy promotion, turned our back on the middle east explicitly and now suddenly the president is coming around and recognizing absolutely this is not just a military effort. we're never going to win militarily. this is a much longer war. we've got to do the things he talked about but he should have been doing them the last several years. >> you served in the white house during that first term. did the president miss an opportunity in the cairo speech? >> i think there is a consistency between the cairo speech and today's speech. what hasn't happened however, is a wholesale change in the middle east in these pro pre-dominantly muslim countries

by the governments, by religious leaders towards attacking this problem, the soft tolerance within these societies for this kind of extremism. i think it's -- i disagree profoundly with the idea that the president turned his back on democracy democracy. he turned his back on the idea that we could bring democracy through american force alone. >> he did cut democracy funding dramatically. >> the two longest wars in our history. i think what the president is acknowledging today and this goes to jim's point and what he's acknowledged in discussions to our military approach this is an effort that will go along for a long time. i think it's fair to say when he came in to office in 2009 he was more optimistic about the possibility of ending this cycle within two terms in office. that's not going to happen. he will bequeath this effort to the next president, and that will probably -- that transition will happen again to the president after. >> let's get additional

perspective. unushay hossein, what do you think about what the president has to say, repeated refusal to brand this problem, if you will as islamic or islamist extremism? >> i think it's really important what the president did and said. i think it's important that we keep the focus on the fact that this was a speech intended for a global audience. it's an international summit it's for an international audience. and i think we should view it as obama's kind of global pitch. i think he emphasized unity and the fact that we are united throughout. he also emphasized the fact that this is not just something that's going to be resolved through a mill taur approach and that's exactly why, once again, he could not name islam. muslim communities, muslim allies muslim countries, these are going to be really important parts of obama's coalition to defeat isis. so i think his consistency, although it might continue to

frustrate his critics and a domestic audience it was very important while delivering the speech to a global audience anushay, thanks very much. jay, danielle, jim sciutto, jake tapper thanks to all of you. we'll have much more continuing coverage the impact the reaction to the president's speech. i'll be back at 1:00 p.m. eastern, a little less than two hours. jake tapper will be with us for "the lead" starting at 4:00 p.m. eastern. in the meantime the news continues next right here on cnn. well thank you so much. hello everyone. i'm kate bolduan. >> i'm john berman. great to see you. the notion we're at war with islam is an ugly lie. those were the blunt words from president obama just moments ago in a speech he delivered. he said muslim nations muslim leaders need to work harder to change perceptions of america. he also said the world needs to

do more to battle the roots of extremism. >> he was speaking to officials from more than 60 countries. this is part of the three-day summit. the white house has been putting on a summit on countering violent extremism. listen to a part of what president obama said. >> countering violent extremism begins with political, civic and religious leaders rejecting sectarian strife. second we have to confront the warped ideologies espoused by terrorists like al qaeda and isil especially their attempt to use islam to justify their violence. i discussed this at length yesterday. these terrorists are desperate for legitimacy, and owlall of us have a responsibility to refute the notion that groups like isil somehow represent islam because that is a falsehood that

embraces the terrorist narrative. >> the president has come under fire, as you well know for his reluctance if you will, to use the word islam to describe isis terrorists. he's come under a lot of criticism for it. he does say because it is quote, in his words, not a war with islam but a war with the people who have perverted islam. >> want to bring in former chairman of the armed services committee, buck we'lli want to focus first on what the president had to say today. today he had a message for muslim nations around the world and the leaders of these muslim nations. he said to them you have to do more that change the perceptions that exist in those nations of america. do you agree with that? >> this is a two-pronged attack. if he wants to say continually time after time we're not at war, let him say it. but i think people understand we

are at war. >> with what? >> with what? >> yes. >> with the people that are trying to kill us that are killing people beheading people burning people. we see them on tv all the tichlt you can see them marching around in their black suits, those are the people we're at war with. the people that are trying to kill us the people trying to take over iraq and saudi arabia want to take over the whole area they controlled hundreds of years ago. they want it all back. from there, they would want to spread their ideology throughout the world. >> congressmen, why does the label matter? i think that's a big question. when you get past -- he says we're not at war with islam. i think everyone can agree with that. what should be the label? the question is what does it change in terms of the conditions on the ground? >> i'm less concerned with the label. i'm more concerned with what the

president does. we keep sending troops around the world to carry out mission after mission while we're cutting their ability to do that. we're cutting their funding back every year. know he asked for more money over and above the caps. what he really needs to do is sit down and work with the congress to come up with a realistic way to win this. he needs to talk more to the american people. they are the ones really concerned, the ones having to fight this fight. we've got about 1% of our people those who wear the uniform, their families that are sacrificing, they've been doing it now for the longest war in our history and at a time when they've been receiving great cuts. if you just look at the budget -- if you cut out the whole military budget you still wouldn't solve the financial problem. if you cut out all the discretionary spending we'd still be running a deficit of

over a half trillion. what the president ought to do is knuckle down and fix our real spending problem. >> congressman, he is working with congress right now for the authorization of the use of force to battle against isis. but focusing on what he said today, it's interesting because you bring up a good point. today's speech wasn't directed at the american people. clearly the main audience was mott the united states. it was people around the world and leaders are around the world. what more do other nations, particularly nations in the arab world, the muslim world, need to do? >> i just got back -- i was there the latter part of last year i went to the middle east. i visited with netanyahu in israel. i visited with king abdullah in jordan and president el sissi in egypt. they are very frustrated. they don't know if he ear going to be there to help them. we're saying the president is saying they need to do more. they're on the front lines. they're willing to do things.

in fact king abdullah said we're ready to fix bayonets they should would like to have our help. here we're giving them a lecture on what they should be doing. i think the president ought to sit down with him and talk to them and he ought to talk to the american people. if he doesn't want to call it a war, then maybe we ought to just bring everybody home to america and not keep sending them out on these missions that he kind of does in a half-hearted way. it's like he doesn't really want to do it but he's forced to do it so he sends them out, not too worried about what he gives them to carry out their missions. i think we ought to have a whole readjustment. >> on the point of some of what the president said today, many of your colleagues have criticized -- i know you say you don't care as much about labels many of your republican colleague think it really does

matter. senator kelly ayotte saying it matters because you have to define your enemy. lindsey graham saying when our president doesn't acknowledge this is a religion-driven war, it's going to be very hard to win it. what do you think of what the president says, by giving them the label, it is feeding into the native that isis wants, that the west is the enemy? what do you think? >> it's kind of like if we're worried about what they're thinking instead of what they're doing, that's something that you know -- what i'd like to see the president do is kind of like what roosevelt did in world war ii. he put the military leaders in place, he gave them what they needed to carry out their mission and then he said go win the war. it's kind of like reagan says we win, you lose. >> does that mean ground troops against isis in your view? >> i think whatever -- whatever it's going to take to win. you have to first decide you're in a war. then you have to decide if

you're going to really win it and what you're going to lay on the line and you don't start out by telling the enemy what you're not going to do. and then you give those who really understand war, those who know what it takes, what the risks are, give them what they need and then let them go to work and don't have attorneys standing there saying no you can't shoot now, yeah maybe now you can shoot. either make up your mind if you're going to do it then go do it. >> congressman, can i quickly ask you about a statement made by former mayor rudy giuliani who last night said of president obama, i do not believe the president loves america. he doesn't love you, he doesn't love me. he wasn't brought up the way you were brought up and i was brought up. what do you think of that? >> you know i think what we autd ought to do is all come together against our enemy. somebody asked me once why

don't we all just come together? i said the price is pretty high. i remember 9/11 and i remember on the hill everybody pulled together and it lasted for a couple weeks. we voted to give the president authority to go to war. we voted $80 billion immediately to give to the pentagon to fight war. why do we wait till we have some kind of thing like that? it's a pretty high price to pull us together. i think if the president won't lead then the congress or somebody else has to lead. but the president doesn't seem to want to. i just think that the travesty of what's going on around the world -- we're focused on -- right now we're talking about the middle east and the problem with that area. we've also got putin taking over ukraine. we have china that just increased their military budget. we've got north korea who

just -- if they decided to go to war with south korea, we've got trouble spots all around the world. as i've talked to leaders around the world, they've indicated they don't know if america is going to be there when they need them. we just -- we don't really i guess set a proper -- i don't think trying to worry about what they're thinking and trying to not upset them over there, i think is just crazy. i'm old enough to remember world war ii. we didn't have that attitude then. >> at the same time congressman, this president, he won saying he was going to draw down the wars in iraq and afghanistan. there was a big -- very little appetite for seeing more u.s. involvement, u.s. ground troops in the middle east. the opinion is shifting a little bit right now in the face of the threat of isis. >> well sure. >> do you think then that the

u.s. has not done enough in terms of this coalition fight against isis? because many think that the arab nations also need to step up. we've senior dan committing air strikes, egypt taking on isis in libya. but is it only the united states that should be doing it? >> no no. and they're willing to do it. but they want to make sure that when they turn around that we'll be behind them. they want to make sure we're with them. we talk a little bit here and then we say, well we're going to do something for three years and then we'll look at something else. it's -- setting a timeline and telling the enemy what we're going to do and not going to do is not a way to a win a war. and when you ask people that have dedicated their lives to protecting this nation to go out and do something in a half-hearted way and don't give them what they need and don't let them do the things they need to do to win, shame on us.

i think if the president would talk late bit more to the american people about the good things that our troops have accomplished in afghanistan instead of pulling them out and not really letting them ever feel good about the things that they've accomplished -- i've been there. i've seen what they've accomplished. i've seen the young people that are able to go to school the girls that can go to school that couldn't go before under the taliban. i was in iraq and to see that we precipitously pull our troops out and now look at what's happening there, and the president talking about doing the same thing in afghanistan. it's a very frustrating thing to see and to hear our leaders, other leaders around the nation and then to see our military people what they're asked to do. they never complain. they salute and take the hill or whatever they're asked to do. we should not ask them to do

things that we're not willing to stand behind them and give them the resources and things they need to carry out their missions. >> congressman buck mckeon. we're joined by bobby ghosh, cnn foreign affairs analyst. we've been listening to the former chair of the senate armed services committee. we've been talking about what the united states should and shouldn't call it. today the speech was directed more at nations around the world. he talked about the muslim world in particular and lieders from these nations. he said these leaders, people in these countries need to address the perceptions of america inside these countries. he's talking about u.s. allies. >> yes, he is. and he's right. my frustration is he didn't name names, although you can understand why he wouldn't do it. hopefully in private when the television cameras are switched off, some more tough talking is taking place directly. >> you name names here.

>> associated difficult arabia, kuwait the uae, these are countries that finance the extremist schools around the world, pakistan where this ideology is preached. they're preaching hatred towards americans. this is something that needs to be worked on while talking american dollars in aide. also against each other, sunni mud rases preach that shia need to be slaughtered. shias teaching that sunnis need to be slaughtered. this dialogue and discussion this teaching creates the ecosystem in which groups like isis and shiite extremist governments arise. these governments turn a blind eye to what's going on in their own countries. sometimes directly or indirectly they encourage what's going on in those countries and export that ideology to other countries. those names knob to be named and

those countries need to be held account. >> let's remind the viewers of the key line in today's speech by president obama. it gets to one of the frustrations the congressman has. i want your take on it as well. here is a little more of president obama. >> the notion that the west is at war with islam is an ugly lie. and all of us regardless of our faith, have a responsibility to reject it. >> he says -- the president says in just having this fight, it feeds into the native that isis wants, that the u.s. is at war with islam. the congressman, he said very clearly that the labels -- we shouldn't be trying to get into the minds of isis we should be looking at how to take on isis. do you think there's a problem the president is focusing on labels although a lot of folks outside the white house are focusing on labels. >> we do need to get into the minds of isis. we've defeated them in the battlefield. we've done that we did that

with the previous iteration when it was called al qaeda in iraq. we used american military power, we used some savvy local knowledge, local tribes turned them against al qaeda in iraq and we defeated them. we weren't in their minds. that's mart of the problem. we weren't paying attention when they revived and came back. yes, we need to fight them on the battlefield, we need to fight them on social media, in those mud rases. this is not a one dimensional fight. we're not going to defeat this enemy if we don't know the way they think. >> congressman mckeon can you respond to that? there's the battlefield, where the united states and coalition partners are bombing right now. but there's also the war of ideas. is the president right that more needs to be done on that front? >> sure. i agree with that. i think there does have to be more done there. but i'm saying we need to do more with our troops in fighting the war, too.

one way to get in these people's minds is to have them scared to death of us. they're not. that's what needs to be happening. they only respect force, and when we pussy foot around and halfheartedly do something, it's really not going to carry the day. >> when you talk about pussy footing around one thing before congress that congress could do to help the president in this fight is path this authorization of use of military force. i know for the viewers that sounds like a lot of washington jargon. you know what this means, congressman, very vsh well. will congress pass this? right now that's a real question even amongst your republican colleagues. >> there's not unanimity on anything. some people want to do more some people want to do less. some people would like to close their eyes and hope it would just go away. if they pass something that ties

the president's hands or if they do something that limits our ability to really engage the enemy, then i think they shouldn't do anything. >> congressman, it seems the solution you have is only more troops more force. is that all you want here? and is that enough? there were hundreds of thousands of troops in iraq and there are a hundred thousand troops in afghanistan. it can't just be troops can it? >> well if that's what it takes. what i'm saying is don't tell the enemy what you're not goings to do. don't say we're not going to put ground forces in or we're going to be out of there in a year or two years, or we're only going to put in enough to try to contain things. we're not in this to really win it. you go on forever and ever. it's no wonder the american people are tired of it. they don't hear from the president what we need to do to

win this thing. the military isn't called in and said look we want you to win it. you tell us what to win it and we'll give you whatever you need. every time they ask for troops they get less than they ask for. the troops are pulled out before they should be. yes, we won the war in iraq and we've lost the peace. >> bobby final, final thought from you? >> this is not the first president to keep the word islamic out. the previous president described his campaign as the global war on terrorism, not the global war on islamic terrorism. this is a second american president, twro different parties, both arrived at the same conclusion that putting the word islamic in there solves no problems and possibly creates more. >> bobby ghosh, thank you so much. congressman buck mckeon thanks so much for coming. >> thanks for having me. >> we'll be right back. ♪ ♪

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president obama has been taking heat for referring to isis -- not referring to isis as islamic terrorists or islamic tearists as many say he should be some saying he's missing it when not referencing that label. he's been explaining why he's so careful with that wording. here is a little bit more. >> we must never accept the premise that they put forward because it is a lie, nor should we grant these terrorists the

religious legitimacy they seek. they're not religious leaders. they're terrorists. >> that was in his speech yesterday. he also said the united states is not at war with islam, but the people who have perverted that faith. want to bring in cnn political commentator sally cone and ana navarro. sally, what do you make about that about what we call it what we don't call it is too much being made of this discussion? >> yes, this is yet another excuse bash the president. he's not going after them militarily say the republicans who haven't met a war they didn't like. he hasn't gotten congress approval. oh he seeks that. now, we just don't like the words he's using. as has been pointed out, president bush was careful about not telegraphing the false idea we were in a war with islam. number one, what do you exactly think it serves other than your

own ideological agenda if the president names the -- does it actually combat the terrorism to call it islamic terrorism further? when there are incidence of christians going on murder rouse rampages i don't see the same people calling for them to call them christian terrorists. >> it's not in the name of christian -- >> in many instances it has been. >> it's a different scale when you're talking about -- >> killing 1,000 people in the name of islam, no one who is a true believer a devout person in any sense of moderate reasonableness would say, yes, it was done in the name of my religion. we don't clamor to blanket call these things religious terrorism except for when it comes to -- >> i guess my question is now

we've spent talking about it even more? how does this work to defeat isis? that might be the real question here. >> i think the two concepts are not mutually exclusive. yes, we're not at war with islam. yes, they do not represent islam. isis doesn't. but yes, isis are, they are extremists violent islam terrorists. it's not mutually exclusive, and i think it's important to call a spade a spade. if you or going to try to combat them. i don't think you should tiptoe around what they are. they are not moderate reasonable people that you'll ever identify with or you'll ever get to understand. they are violent terrorists that go after their own people. they're burning arabs, they're burning jordanians they're killing egyptians because

they're christians. these are extremists they are islamists -- islam uk and they're killing arabs that are christians, even arabs, not just westerners. >> one area i think i will say the president is exactly right is we have to think, rather than just knee jerk saying what we're going to say in the wake of seeing these horrific be headings and videos and so forth is what does that serve? and the point here is and many analysts have made the point that isis wants to create the idea that there is this fundamental war between the west and islam, and the only brand of islam is their extremely narrow fundamentalist radical version. when we aren't careful with our words -- when we aren't careful with our words, we feed that narrative in which they win. they win. >> anna? >> can you imagine, we're having a discussion here about being careful with our words when we are talking about combating people who are beheading folks,

burning folks alive, who have sex slaves who are beheading tons of people in the sea and throwing their heads out. come on. we're talking about words and semantics. >> i'd rather not be talking about words either. >> the purpose that it serves the purpose it serves is for us to know exactly what we're up against. >> i personally would rather we wouldn't be talk about words either. i thit it's more important to talk about strategy and how we combat isis. i don't think this is conversation the president wants to be having either let's talk about different words. rudy giuliani former mayor of new york yesterday at a fund-raiser for governor scott walker he said this. it's quoted because we don't have the audio. i do not believe the president loves america. he doesn't love you and he doesn't love me. he wasn't brought up the way we were brought up the way you were brought up and the way i was brought up through love of

this country. obviously a lot of folks angry about this. a lot of folks wondering exactly what he meant. he tried to explain himself this morning. listen to this guys. >> i'm not questioning his patriotism. he's a patriot i'm sure. what i'm saying is in his rhetoric i very rarely hear him say the things i used to hear ronald reagan say, the things i used to hear bill clinton say about how much he loves america. i do hear him criticize america much more often than other american presidents. when it's not in done text of overwhelming number of statements about the exceptional exceptionalism of america, it sounds like he's more of a critic than he is a supporter. you can be a patriotic americana and be a critic but you're not expressing the kind of love that we're used to from a president. >> anna i don't know what mayor giuliani just said right there, because he absolutely did say that barack obama doesn't love

america like you do like other people do. he said it. and it's just -- it's baffling i think to a lot of people that someone in that position could use words like that about a president of the united states. >> frankly, i'm surprised he used them. i know rudy giuliani he's a friend of mine. i like him very much. and i think those words, if he, in fact, said them -- i didn't hear it. vint heard audio. if he said them i think they are inappropriate and i think we should not be in the game of questioning each other's love for america. what he said afterwards that president obama uses a different rhetoric. so people may like it better some paem may like it less. i think that was an inappropriate comment, frankly, if in fact it was made. >> it does harken back to '08 fear mongering about the president, where he was born and where his birth certificate is from. i didn't think we needed to be -- hopefully we won't be

getting into that again. >> of course we will. it reminded me of the 2012 the 7% of americans who aren't like us said mitt romney. giuliani started his comments by saying i know this sounds like a horrible thing to say. he should have stopped right there. he's right, it was a horrible thing to say. >> are democrats going to use it against scott walker now? >> a totally unacceptable thing to say. this notion -- you weren't criticizing his patism. you did question his patriotism. you also suggested he's not like us. he wasn't brought up the way you and i were in this room speaking to a room of let's be honest 60 wealthy business executives republicans, probably white. this is really dangerous. i don't know if they then pulled dog whistles out of their party bags and blew them. this is scary stuff that this president isn't like the rest of us it's the kind of stuff

republicans need to stay away from. >> sally, let me just tell you that horrible statements can be made by republicans and democrats. they have been made by both republicans and democrats. i think the lesson to be learned for anybody running for office or anybody in the political circles is that whatever you say in a closed room today can be taken out of context and brought out in public because we've got the technology that enables us to do that. so people need to be careful with what they say behind closed doors as well as in front of a camera. >> sage advice from a sage strategist. >> or maybe not say them in the first place. >> as we say we're on live tv and never know what's about to come out of our mouths. just kidding. ana, great to see you. sally -- >> hopefully -- >> i did not cut you off. what were you saying? >> i said hopefully not our foot. >> thank you so much ana.

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happening right now, the spread of a dangerous superbug known as cre. it's much longer than that but they've abbreviated. nearly 200 people may have been exposed to this drug-resistant bacteria. seven patients at ucla medical center have been infected. two of them have died in relation to their infection. >> a special end scopic procedure is believed to be connected to this. patients who had it between

october and january are being given home testing kids. the bacteria kills up to half the patients who end up with it. we want to bring in medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta. >> the type of procedure, ercp is a scope procedure that looks at the gallbladder and pancreas. it's not the kind that looks in your stomach if you're worried about reflux disease or colon cancer screening. this is a different type of scope. exactly as you said this procedure was performed nearly 200 times between october and january. what they found is the scope despite being cleaned the way it was supposed to be cleaned still was having this resistant bacteria attached to it that was then subsequently infecting other patients. we know of seven patients who became infected this way. as you mentioned, two of them have died. all these other patients are

getting these home testing kits now to find out if they have this infection as well. this is of very high concern. doesn't sound like any kind of breach of protocol here. but despite that this ends up being the vehicle, the mechanism by which this infection is occurring. >> that's one of the most interesting things about this sanjay we're not talking about a dirty hospital or one person really messed up. they followed the procedure laid out there. what is it about this bacteria that makes it so dangerous? i know the fda has been coming up with new information just now. >> it's really interesting. you have an instrument out there for a long time, always sterilized the same way. now the fda giving out a safety communication saying you know what that way we recommend this instrument to be cleaned is not good enough. now we're recommending these instrumenting to be cleaned in a different way, more aggressive way, as you might imagine, to try to not let it be contaminated with this superbug. this is a big deal. when i don't know increase safety standards around it it affects all the hospitals in the

country. this is something that will have a tremendous impact. what this bug is kate to your question this is a type of a bug resistant to many antibiotics. we hear of mrsa. this is cre. we used to be able to kill these types of bacteria easily. we've run out of drug to be able to do so because these bugs have become resistant. take a look, it kills up to half the people that come in contact with it. out don't know of many organisms that can do that. those that are infected that all got this particular procedure. the fda is coming out with new guidelines to try and stem this. right now you've got nearly 200 people who right now are questioning do i have this superbug in my system. >> sanjay within this supp set of people who did have this procedure, is there a group at particular risk? >> it's interesting. it is still a small group. when you start to define subsets, you usually want larger groups. these are all people having this

procedure for some particular reason. usually they're already sick. would it behave differently in someone who is perfectly healthy? we don't know. we do know if someone gets infected with this it will be more challenging to treat. it may be more troublesome in the group having these procedures. >> the more important news as sanjay points out, the fda saying they'll have to change procedures. this has to be a relatively common procedure, this apparatus used in hospitals all over the country. that's real impact for hospitals, doctors and patients everywhere. sanjay sanjay great to see you, thank you. coming up unless the ferguson police department changes its ways the federal government might sioux. we'll talk about the just stis department's investigation into the michael brown shooting. it's expected to reveal a broader problem of racial bias. we'll have an attorney for the brown family weighing in next.

new this morning, cnn sources say justice department officials could file a lawsuit against the ferguson missouri police department over allegations of racially discriminatory tactics. that's only if ferguson police do not agree to review and change their practices. >> this comes on the heels of a civil rights investigation following the shooting death of

michael brown by officer darren wilson. the justice department is expected to announce it will not be charging officer wilson in that shooting. let's bring in darrell parks, the attorney for the michael brown family. mr. parks, it's good to see you. >> good morning. >> thank you very much. i wanted to ask you, in terms of we're waiting to hear from the justice department. what if anything, have you and the michael brown family heard from doj about their investigation and what they could be discussing? have they reached out to you at all? >> they have reached out to us. as you know, they never tell you what exactly they've seen or what's going on with the investigation, and properly so. certainly we all know they're investigating the department along with the situation involving michael brown's murder. >> if you believe the reports that are out there, the reports are right now the justice department is not going to press any charges in terms of what you call the situation surrounding

michael brown directly. they're not going to press charges there. so then would you feel some level of vindication if they did then press charges or force changes in the department itself? would that be enough for you and your clients, sir? >> i won't call it vindication, but certainly i think there are many issues that we all now are aware of around the death of michael brown that certainly cause great concern. we now learned about the makeup of the department. as the justice department has done its probe, we've lrnd about some of the operations and tactics used especially against minorities and particularly african-americans. so those are issues that have come out since michael brown's death. they're very deep issues within this community and within this department. so certainly it's a move in the right direction when you have these issues coming forth pursuant to whatever the justice department has done in its investigation. >> do you sense any frustration,

though among the family? this clearly hearing that the justice department will be forcing change in the police department is something that is better than nothing. but which obviously the family wants. but they will be threatening a lawsuit for discriminatory practices in the police department is there a frustration there that you're having one but not the other? >> i think their frustration is simply put they lost their son. i spoke with michael brown yesterday and with his mom a few days ago. they have deep pain just from the hurt and loss and just knowing that darren wilson will never be held responsible for what happened. that causes deep pain for them to know that the person took the life of their child is walking freely and has not had to account for what he did to michael brown jr. >> what is the current thought process among you and your

clients about a civil lawsuit against officer wilson? >> that's something we're actively working on right now with our legal team and something you'll learn about very shortly. certainly something we are working towards. >> darryl parks, thank you very much. >> thank you so much. coming up there's cold and then there's cold and then there's john berman type of bone-chilling cold that you just can't deal with it anymore. it's hitting the entire eastern half of the united states. john berman is wearing thermal understood wear right now. >> it's not speedo weather. >> first, giving sight to the blind. it's another way smartphones are helping people live fully lives. >> >> please identify some of the items in this vending machine. >> she's blind and using be my eyes a free iphone app that

connects her to volunteers via video call. >> the first time i used it was here in the office. i went to this vending machine that has no braille sboms, symbols, i was able to identify there's a lot of junk food in there and knowing i could go up there and purchase something. it's very freeing. >> when you're not using the app, is that something that's tiresome for the visually impaired? >> it can be. and it also makes me personally feel like it leaves this impression of dependency. i feel like technology of this kind really furthers us along in giving the proper impression which is that we can do anything with the right tools and training. >> be my eyes can empower the blind users as well as volunteers like melissa. the first time that you got a behind person calling, what was that moment like?

>> it was sort of surreal. i answered the call and it was a woman holding her phone at her problem. she had dropped her necklace. i kept say, go a little right, a little lower. it was a little beautiful moment. i felt happy that i could help someone. what i really feel about this app is that it's a good deed waiting to happen. >> open be my eyes. >> blind users say the only change it needs is more sighted volunteers. >> i've been known to wait up to about five, six minutes. by that time okay. >> could you please tell me what train station this is? >> 23 street station. >> perfect. well, thank you very much.

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expected as far south as nashville which is in the south. we are joined now from the cnn weather center. what's going on here? >> well, the siberian express. that's what's going on. our weather right now is coming from the north pole. it's not just cold in nashville, but -- this is how you know it's cold. it's cold in miami where it's in the 50s right now and there are a lot of depressed people that thought they were going to escape winter walking along the beach thinking what is going on. the cold air has made it all the way down into florida. 27 in boston. the arctic front has not pushed through, we have another round coming in. it's going to get even colder. look at these windchills. atlanta, georgia feels like it's 9 degrees. i must have been walking too fast because it felt like it was was -- get nice and warm towards

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days we hope. >> thank you so much. appreciate it. >> thanks ivan. thank you for joining us. >> "legal view" starts right about now. hello we're one. this is legal view. it will take more than bombs to beat isis and it's not just america's battle. if there were any doubt the white house is looking for new solutions to what it calls violent extremism, president obama just gave his second speech on the subject in 24 hours. >> not a question of jews or christians or muslims. we're all in the same boat. and we have to help each other to get out of this crisis. >> while the president was speaking, the pentagon was said to be analyzing claims from iraq that